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Unsolved Mysteries: The Nightmares Robert Stack Gave Us · Children of the 80s

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  Speaker 1: I am Lindsay, and with me today is my co-host,
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  Speaker 1: the second best-looking man in a trench coat.
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  Speaker 2: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: Jim Butler.
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  Speaker 2: I do pull off the trench coat very well. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: you do.
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  Speaker 1: I've heard people often say.
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  Speaker 2: Trench coat Jim? Is that what they call me?
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  Speaker 1: What's he wearing under that trench coat?
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  Speaker 2: No, I think you mistaken. I think you heard them
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  Speaker 2: say that I have trench foot.
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  Speaker 1: That's it. That's it. Okay, I have a question for you.
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  Speaker 1: When you wear your trench coat, do you button it
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  Speaker 1: and tie it? You know, with a little sash thing? Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Or do you leave it open?
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  Speaker 2: No, you tie it with a little sash thing.
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  Speaker 1: Do you?
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  Speaker 2: You do when you're skinny. When you're my size, you
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  Speaker 2: kind of leave it open.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what to do when I have a
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  Speaker 1: sash on a jacket or a coat.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, every sash that I see, I'm tying.
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  Speaker 1: You're a sash tire.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a sash tire. I've got like these shorts that
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  Speaker 2: have like this string. I'm not talking about like basketball
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  Speaker 2: shorts or anything. Like I'm talking like legit, like nice.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know why you bought me shorts that have
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  Speaker 2: a string on them, but I tie those.
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  Speaker 1: They look like cargo pants, but they're shorts. And so
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  Speaker 1: they've got a weird.
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  Speaker 2: But they don't have all the pockets that cargo pants have.
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  Speaker 1: They've got a weird rope belt. oh yeah and so
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  Speaker 1: i've noticed you don't know what to do with it
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  Speaker 1: because i've seen you wear them and you've left it
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  Speaker 1: like open and it like dangles and no.
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  Speaker 2: No no it's supposed to be like tucked in if
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  Speaker 2: it's if i don't see it untucked just around the
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  Speaker 2: house not when i leave the house when i leave
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  Speaker 2: the house i either tie it or i or i.
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  Speaker 1: Tuck it so Now that we're talking about these shorts,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like everyone's picturing a pair of shorts out
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  Speaker 1: of the nineties. So I'm thinking maybe we should retire these.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. I mean, I didn't want them in the first place.
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  Speaker 1: Well, sometimes beggar, what is it? Beggars can't be choosers.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. That is, that is what they say. And I
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  Speaker 2: don't like to see myself as a beggar, but I
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  Speaker 2: do like to be a chooser and I choose not
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  Speaker 2: to wear those pants anymore.
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  Speaker 1: How is your week going?
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's going.
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  Speaker 1: I can tell you right now my week is sucking.
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  Speaker 2: Really?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so we lost power Saturday night or Saturday for
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  Speaker 1: an entire day.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, from quarter to seven in the morning until about
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  Speaker 2: five o'clock that evening.
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  Speaker 1: It felt like I had been unplugged. I didn't have
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  Speaker 1: my power cord plugged in. I couldn't function. How did
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  Speaker 1: they do it back in the olden days?
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  Speaker 2: I explained this to you on Saturday, and I will
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  Speaker 2: explain it again. They did not know what they were missing.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't have electricity, so they didn't miss electricity.
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  Speaker 1: So I got nothing done. I didn't feel like doing anything,
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  Speaker 1: but I also felt like I couldn't do anything. Everything
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  Speaker 1: that I had planned to do Saturday required power of
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  Speaker 1: some sort.
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  Speaker 2: There wasn't a whole lot that you could do.
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  Speaker 1: So.
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  Speaker 2: You couldn't get into the garage.
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  Speaker 1: Correct.
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  Speaker 2: You couldn't do dishes. You couldn't do laundry. Couldn't do
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  Speaker 2: all the woman stuff around the house that women are
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  Speaker 2: supposed to do.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes.
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  Speaker 1: So... Our neighbor, she opened her garage door by pulling
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  Speaker 1: a lever.
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  Speaker 2: A lever?
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  Speaker 1: She pulled the lever, Jim.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. No, I know. It's the emergency. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And she said, oh, you can do it too. She's like,
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  Speaker 1: I can't come over and show you because I have
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  Speaker 1: a hurt foot. But let me, I'll send you directions
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  Speaker 1: via text. And I'm like, oh, heck no. I'll end up.
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  Speaker 1: Like the girl in scream.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Yes. Rose McGowan. You would, uh, if anybody could
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  Speaker 2: do that, it would be you.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah. Not do it successfully. Do it and die.
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  Speaker 2: Correct.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, that's, that's 100% correct.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I wasted Saturday. I just, it's just felt
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  Speaker 1: off since then. I can't get myself back on track.
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  Speaker 1: Hurty tooth is hurting.
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  Speaker 2: Hurty tooth is hurting. Um, Yeah, it was kind of
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  Speaker 2: a bummer way to spend a Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: It was.
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  Speaker 2: It was not how I was planning on spending my Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't really do anything for the pod because we
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  Speaker 2: didn't have.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't have power. Right.
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't do anything for work. You know, I really
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  Speaker 2: couldn't do a whole lot, so.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like, and maybe this is just a me thing,
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  Speaker 1: or maybe this is just an in this house thing,
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  Speaker 1: that I should apologize for. Only wanting to do things
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  Speaker 1: that need electricity. Like watch true crime. Play on my phone.
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  Speaker 1: And I've just decided since Saturday, I'm not apologizing anymore.
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  Speaker 1: This is 2026. I don't need to go out and
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  Speaker 1: till the land.
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  Speaker 2: Till the land?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't have to now. So I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to apologize for needing electricity to live.
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  Speaker 2: Right. I'm not going to apologize either. I don't apologize
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  Speaker 2: for anything.
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  Speaker 1: You always give me grief about relying too much on
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  Speaker 1: my electronics.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you do rely a lot on your electronics.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not apologizing anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a free woman.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Serenity now. All right.
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  Speaker 2: Calm down over there, Costanza.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, and I'm also struggling because Emmy is ready to
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  Speaker 1: decorate for Halloween. And it's still like 86, 87 degrees
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  Speaker 1: outside here. I just can't do it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you need to get one of those task
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  Speaker 2: rabbits or taskmasters or whatever that comes over and they
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  Speaker 2: help Emmy decorate for Halloween if you don't want to
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  Speaker 2: do it.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, she needs an aunt or some, you know, a young...
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. A young somebody that gives a darn.
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  Speaker 2: Are you saying that she can get a new young mom?
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  Speaker 2: A new young stepmom? Is that what you're saying?
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  Speaker 1: No. I don't know. Could she do some of the
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  Speaker 1: work that needs to be done? Because maybe.
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  Speaker 2: I bet she could.
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  Speaker 1: Uh-huh. Well, yeah, that's a whole nother podcast. I don't
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  Speaker 1: even know what that means. So, yeah, so I'm struggling,
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  Speaker 1: like even just being in, Getting in the Halloween spirit.
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  Speaker 1: And Halloween, Thanksgiving, this is my favorite time of the year.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't know how it can be if the
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  Speaker 1: weather won't cooperate.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the weather outside is frightful, but for a different reason.
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  Speaker 2: Because it's like, might as well be walking on the sun,
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  Speaker 2: as Smash Mouth once said.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I don't know what to
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  Speaker 2: tell you. I can't control the weather. We're going to have...
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  Speaker 2: Lemel Nino coming this winter. But right now it's hot.
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  Speaker 1: It is hot.
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  Speaker 2: It did cool off for a couple of days when
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  Speaker 2: the hurricane came through.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so that's why we lost power. Right.
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  Speaker 2: So we can either be cool with no power or
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  Speaker 2: hot with power.
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  Speaker 1: So we are in a suburb of Atlanta. Yes. Our
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  Speaker 1: power went out for 10 hours.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Due to E I say us the hurricane.
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  Speaker 1: Did I get it right?
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  Speaker 2: I have no idea. I couldn't, I wouldn't be able
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  Speaker 2: to say that if, if you wanted me to.
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  Speaker 1: My godmother is on the panhandle of Florida.
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  Speaker 2: I bet she didn't lose power.
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  Speaker 1: Very close to where the hurricane came to on land
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  Speaker 1: on a slither of an island. She did not lose power,
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  Speaker 1: but we did, but we did in the suburbs of Atlanta. Yeah. Crazy.
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  Speaker 2: We live in, uh, The worst area for power outages.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't get that, but we do.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what was hilarious. You know, these next
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  Speaker 2: door people, not the people that live next door, but
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  Speaker 2: the people on next door, the app. Yeah, the next
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  Speaker 2: door app. They like to complain a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure if you knew that.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh.
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  Speaker 2: But I saw one lady and she was like, what's
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  Speaker 2: up with this city? We lose power every time it storms.
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  Speaker 2: It's like we're living in a third world country. And
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  Speaker 2: then somebody that we know. Yes. that we know to
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  Speaker 2: be a little bit of a smart aleck, replies back
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  Speaker 2: and says, it's not that bad.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's not get ridiculous here, Karen.
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  Speaker 2: And he wasn't being a smart aleck. Like, he was
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  Speaker 2: telling the truth. Yeah, he was. It's not like living
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  Speaker 2: in a third world country.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you had your food. Now, your food may
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  Speaker 2: have spoiled if you didn't get it in a freezer
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  Speaker 2: or a, Cooler with ice in it.
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  Speaker 1: Ours spoiled.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, ours did. I feel like the electric company should
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  Speaker 2: have to pay us back for our spoiled food. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: I agree. Yeah. So I'm looking at an article here.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, what you got?
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  Speaker 2: And it says 13 legendary 80s actors still dominating Hollywood today.
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  Speaker 1: Oh.
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  Speaker 2: Dominating. Not just doing well, not just thriving, but dominating.
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  Speaker 1: That's a pretty hefty word.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of thought so. So first one, Winona Ryder.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if she's dominating Hollywood, but she's still
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  Speaker 2: very active.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe because of the whole stranger things.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Eddie Murphy.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Is he dominating?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the Nutty Professor, Dr. Doolittle, Shrek, or what
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  Speaker 2: they're talking about. I mean, these things were like 25
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  Speaker 2: years ago.
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  Speaker 1: That's old stuff. That's not now. That was then. I know.
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  Speaker 2: When was this article written?
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  Speaker 1: 2005?
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  Speaker 2: Al Pacino.
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  Speaker 1: I thought he died.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Pacino didn't die.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. He's got a young child.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he may because he left Beverly D'Angelo and had
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  Speaker 2: a young child.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, Sparky.
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  Speaker 2: Jamie Lee Curtis.
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  Speaker 1: Well, she's definitely still dominating.
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  Speaker 2: Man, she looks old.
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  Speaker 1: That's not nice.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, so does Pacino, but Eddie Murphy and.
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  Speaker 2: Winona do not look old. Tom Cruise. He doesn't look old.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't look young. He looks like an alien.
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  Speaker 1: He's plastic now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's plastic, man. Jennifer Jason Leigh.
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  Speaker 1: Who?
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  Speaker 2: Jennifer Jason Leigh.
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  Speaker 1: I know who she is, but what has she done
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  Speaker 1: in the last 20 years?
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  Speaker 2: Awake and... Night Always Comes are some of her more
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  Speaker 2: recent films, according to Rotten Tomatoes.
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  Speaker 1: Who even has ever heard of that?
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  Speaker 2: Now, they have close-up HD pictures of these people, either
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  Speaker 2: with or without makeup on, and she's got quite the
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  Speaker 2: crow's feet. So she's showing her age, old Jennifer Jason Leigh.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, well, be nice.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not being mean. I'm just saying, you know, some
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  Speaker 2: of us show our age and some of us don't.
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  Speaker 2: So Alyssa Milano.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Her latest role was as Dr. Goodman in Driver's Ed. Now,
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  Speaker 2: she does not look old, but she has clearly had
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  Speaker 2: some work done because she's smiling like the Joker. Like
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  Speaker 2: Jack Nicholson Joker. Robert De Niro.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: The man who never ages and apparently who also never
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  Speaker 2: turns down a script. Jodie Foster. Looking older, but not
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  Speaker 2: looking old old.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Meryl Streep. Definitely looking old.
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  Speaker 1: These are just not who I thought you were going
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  Speaker 1: to name.
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  Speaker 2: I know. Steve Martin.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, one half of the Martins.
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  Speaker 2: Not looking old. Oh, I love Steve Martin. I would
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  Speaker 2: say one third of the Martins.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, Martin Mull. Yes. Okay, well, I got something to
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  Speaker 1: say about that, but I'll let you finish your list first.
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  Speaker 2: Kevin Costner.
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  Speaker 1: So I personally love Kevin Costner, and I've talked about
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  Speaker 1: that before. But I've heard some not-so-nice things about him recently.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that would be a shame.
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  Speaker 1: I know. I don't like it. I hope that they're
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  Speaker 1: just ugly rumors.
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  Speaker 2: And then supposedly Harrison Ford is still dominating, although.
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  Speaker 1: Have you seen what he looks like?
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  Speaker 2: I'm looking at this picture here, and I mean, he
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  Speaker 2: looks like he might be in trouble.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Callista took his wings away from him.
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  Speaker 2: Well, as she should have.
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  Speaker 1: He became uninsurable.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we had a friend who was in the insurance business.
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  Speaker 1: That may have been how I know.
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  Speaker 2: That insured airplanes and they refused to insure Harrison Ford
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  Speaker 2: because he was like... 95. 137 trying to fly an airplane.
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  Speaker 1: So have I ever shared the story about Clint Eastwood?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: I've never shared that on here. I think I might have.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you have and I just forgot.
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  Speaker 1: So back when I had a job in the real world,
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  Speaker 1: I had an intern... And Clint Eastwood was her godfather.
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  Speaker 1: And he would just hop in his plane and fly to,
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  Speaker 1: her parents were divorced, so she was in Atlanta and
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  Speaker 1: her dad was somewhere in California. So he would just
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  Speaker 1: hop in his plane in California and drive to the
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  Speaker 1: other part of California and land it in their yard
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  Speaker 1: just to see them.
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  Speaker 2: He drove the plane?
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  Speaker 1: He flew the plane.
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  Speaker 2: He flew the plane.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. And this was like, I don't know. Maybe seven,
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  Speaker 1: eight years ago.
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  Speaker 2: He would land it in their yard.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm assuming that they've got a big yard.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they were very wealthy people.
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  Speaker 2: I guess you have to be to be friends with
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  Speaker 2: Clint Eastwood.
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  Speaker 1: But isn't that crazy?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's insane.
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  Speaker 1: So these celebrities, do they hop in airplanes like we
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  Speaker 1: hop in cars? Because Tom Cruise also is a pilot.
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  Speaker 2: Is he really?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess maybe they do. I don't know. I
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  Speaker 2: want to meet a celebrity who is a helicopter pilot.
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  Speaker 1: What about the, what was his name on Magnum?
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  Speaker 2: Tom Selleck?
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  Speaker 1: Well, obviously I know Tom Selleck. No, the one that
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  Speaker 1: flew the helicopter.
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  Speaker 2: Tom Selleck.
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  Speaker 1: What was his name, really?
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  Speaker 2: Tom Selleck.
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  Speaker 1: T-C or G-T or? T-S.
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  Speaker 2: Tom Selleck. Oh my gosh, whatever.
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  Speaker 1: So, my point is, he would be a good one
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  Speaker 1: to know. I don't even know what my point is. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I need to talk a minute about the Martins.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: We're struggling with these documentaries recently because we watched the
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  Speaker 1: one on Mr. T a couple of weeks ago. Didn't
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  Speaker 1: exactly land where I thought it was going to land.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't exactly what I thought it was going to be.
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  Speaker 1: It was not bad by any means, but it didn't
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  Speaker 1: give us a lot of meat. I felt like they
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  Speaker 1: could have dug a little deeper in his story. Don't
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  Speaker 1: you think? They kept a little surface. So a couple
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  Speaker 1: of nights ago, we watched the documentary on Martin Mull.
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  Speaker 2: Who is Martin Mull? That's what the name of the
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  Speaker 2: documentary was.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you who Martin Mull was. It got me.
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  Speaker 1: It really, it got me.
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  Speaker 2: It touched your heart.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, it was good. And you want to talk about
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  Speaker 1: Watching someone who you know, by the time we're watching it,
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  Speaker 1: he's passed away. Plus, a good bit of the friends
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  Speaker 1: that are talking about him, have also passed away. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Bob Saget was the one who started directing and
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  Speaker 2: producing the documentary because it started a long, long time ago.
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  Speaker 2: And so Bob Saget is in this documentary. You can
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  Speaker 2: see him asking the questions and talking and everything else.
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  Speaker 1: But watching Martin Mull having deep thoughts about the end
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  Speaker 1: of his life, it got to me. It's... more than
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  Speaker 1: worth your time to watch. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: I would highly recommend it. I will say this, the
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  Speaker 2: thing that shocked me, and I think this may, uh,
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  Speaker 2: peak people's interest is that he only did his acting
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  Speaker 2: and his comedy to support his habit of painting. He
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: really truly wanted to be a painter, but figured it
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: would be almost impossible to make a living as a painter.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: So he, went out and did comedy and music and
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: acting strictly to provide for his family so he could paint.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: I did not know that he was as big in
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: the seventies as I guess he was.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't either. I mean, I first saw him
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: on Mr. Mom, um, and Mr. Mom was kind of
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: my introduction to him and to Michael Keaton for that matter.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: And Terry Gar, um, But yeah, he was really good
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: at just about everything he did.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: He was introspective.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Is that the word?
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Yes, he was very introspective.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: But what a good, kind, sweet fella.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: So.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: He will be missed.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: One of our favorites.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Got anything else before we get to today's episode?
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: I think that's it.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: All right. Let's get to it.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: This is a podcast that looks back on the decade
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: of the 1980s. We talk about things that were important
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: to us as children and what we look back on
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: with fond memories as adults. Ultimately, though, this is a
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: nostalgia podcast.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: All right, so I want to know what we're talking
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: about today. But before we do... Uh-oh.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: I know because I'm middle-aged man.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Little H-Man. Little H-Man.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: He has powers and knowledge that are far beyond younger men.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Little H-Man. Caught between 40 and 55. Accruing more interest
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: yet losing his sex drive.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Developing skills and a gut.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Little H-Man. All right. Are you ready? I've got another
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: nominee for Middle-Aged Man Hall of Fame.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Laying on me.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: And I need to know, are you going to accept
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: this fella in the Middle-Aged Man Hall of Fame? Okay.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Or are you going to boot him? Forever.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Never to be spoken of again.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Never to be spoken of again.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: So, our nominee is one Mr. George Sparky Anderson, former
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: manager of the world champion Detroit Tigers and former manager
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: of Cincinnati's Big Red Machine in the 70s.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Do you have a picture for me?
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: I do have a picture for you. This is him
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: in the 70s.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Uh-huh. Well, clearly he was 80 there. Right.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: So he was born in 1934. So this is him
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: in the 70s.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Is his hair white or blonde?
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: White.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: White because he was an albino? Or white because he
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: was old?
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Look, look at those sideburns.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, they look like glue-on Muppet sideburns.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: They kind of do.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Here he is in the dugout.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: That's an old man right there. How old was he ish?
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Uh, so I can't get an exact date of this,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: but I know that he managed the reds in the
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: seventies and probably maybe the early eighties, but this is
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: certainly a picture from the seventies. So he might be,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: this could be 1970 and he's 36 or 35. What?
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. If that's the case, he's in.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: That is the case. Hold on. Let me.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: I think you should double check your facts. Okay, this
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: is his 19... 71.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Baseball card right here.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Oh, he's an old man.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Which would have been taken in 1970.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: He's in.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: And he would have been 36. He's in. He's in.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: That man's no younger than 66. Okay, so congratulations, Mr.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Sparky Anderson. You are not only in the Major League
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Baseball Hall of Fame as a manager.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: More importantly.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: You are in the Middle-Aged Man Hall of Fame. So
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: he is the first manager. And as far as I know,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: one of only two, or maybe one of three, to
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: win the World Series as a manager in both the
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: National League and American League.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: So congratulations, Sparky Anderson. That was sent to me by
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: our friend Jason Colvin.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Jason!
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: So Jason actually sent that to me like a couple
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: of months ago. And he had texted it to me,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: and I didn't write it down, so I had forgotten.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: And then a couple of weeks ago, he was like,
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: what's a man got to do to get Sparky Anderson nominated?
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: And so I was like, next episode, he will be
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: nominated because I am writing it down.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: That's a good one. Good, good, good one.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was, when he said that, I'm like, oh,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: he's in. I thought, honestly, in 1984, I thought Sparky
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: was like in his 70s. Yeah, no, I see why.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: He was managing the Tigers. They went to the World Series.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Of course, they won. One of the more dominant teams
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: I've ever seen in my life. I thought he was
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: like in his 70s. He hadn't even turned 50 yet.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: So there we go. Sparky Anderson. All right. You did
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: this episode. This is all your idea. So tell me
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: what we are doing.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: This is all on me.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Are we in the Halloween mind frame since it's October?
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Yes, we are. Because again, this is my favorite time
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: of the year. It's still extremely warm outside, but I'm
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: trying folks. So I want you to think of back
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: to your childhood. There are certain sounds that, There are
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: certain songs, music, jingles that just take you back to
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: a time. Yes. So....
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Big Red Gum.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Yep. I got one for you. Okay. The NBC Chimes.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Right. Oh, for sure. How about... Oh. For sure. But....
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: There is one song that could absolutely either make your
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: evening or ruin your evening. And it's this. So what
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: are you feeling when you hear that?
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: So honestly, I feel like, and I don't think I've
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: ever heard this. Anytime you go out for Halloween or
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: you would go to like when we were teenagers or
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: young adults, we would go to a haunted house. You'd
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: always hear them playing the Michael Myers or the Halloween music.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: I feel like they should have been playing this.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, I know.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Imagine kids nowadays going through a haunted house with this playing.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I know, I agree.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: They would be flipping out.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: This was a normal Wednesday night in our house growing up.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: This music comes on. I'm in front of the TV.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: The next thing I'm going to see is Robert Stack.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: He appears in his trench coat, always tied with the belt.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: That's because he was thin.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: He's probably going to be like on a dark, deserted
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: street with some fog around him.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Do you remember how the dramatics?
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Yes. I remember that it was a dark, deserted street,
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: much like our street here with no streetlights.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Yes. And one thing that you could count on, someone
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: was missing. There was probably a murderer wandering around somewhere
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: who had never been caught.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: And as soon as Unsolved Mysteries went off on Wednesday nights,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: it was bedtime.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Go to bed, kids.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Sleep tight. Yeah, yeah. Good luck getting any sleep tonight.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: So since it's October and I'm trying to get into
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: the whole spooky season and the spooky attitude, I thought
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: we'd do a show on Unsolved Mysteries.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, I love it. So you know who else wore
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: a trench coat in the 80s? This is Susie. If
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Susie gets in that car, she'll never be seen again.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Go to bed, kids, and good luck not dying.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: This is why, as a generation, we're so tough. Yes.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: We had to be.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: But I've talked about this before. I believe that Unsolved
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Mysteries is one of the biggest reasons that Generation X
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: grew up obsessed with true crimes. And I think that's
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: one reason. While we have true crime documentaries and podcasts
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: and TV shows and all that good stuff. Yes.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, A, people want to solve a mystery, right?
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: But B, like we were raised on this. Back when
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: we were kids, Dateline in 2020 wasn't always about true crime.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Sometimes it was about some news or some big event
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: or some, you know, something that somebody invented or whatever.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, but mixed with true crime.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: But Unsolved Mysteries was true crime. Every Wednesday night.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: So here's how it always went. He'd give us the clues.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: They'd give us the suspects. Here's what we know so far.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Now you go figure it out. Right?
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: So that's why now we're all sitting in front of
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: our TVs with our bowl of cereal swearing that Even
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: though the FBI can't solve this crime.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: We might be able to.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: We can. Yes. That's because Robert Stack told me I could.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, it wasn't solved mysteries, right? That's what
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Dateline in 2020 is now. It's solved mysteries.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: This was unsolved mysteries.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: So we're going to go back and review a couple
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: of real cases from the show. But before we go
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: down that road, let's talk a little bit about what
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: made Unsolved Mysteries so unsettling. That? Because usually there was
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: no blood. There were no guts. They didn't really elaborate
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: on the murder scenes, but somehow something made it really spooky.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: That is unsettling.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: That's very unsettling. And something about Robert Stack, the way
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: he played it all. Oh, yeah.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: No, his voice was perfect for it.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: The steadiness of his voice. Yes. Because he was never panicked.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: He just stayed almost monotone. I could just hear him now.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: A woman disappeared from a grocery store parking lot. I
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: can't even do it justice.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: A woman disappeared from the grocery store parking lot. I
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: can't do it either. Like, Robert Stack was Robert Stack,
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: and I'm not Robert Stack.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: And then that music would start.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: I like a fat stack.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: I like a tall stack of pancakes.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: So, but think about this. Going back to the 80s,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: the crime shows, like, I don't know, Murder, She Wrote. Mm-hmm. Like,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: she always- figured it out. Right. Matlock.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Matlock always figured it out.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Columbo. Yep. He always figured it out.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: One more thing.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Unsolved Mysteries. Nobody figured it out. The end. Good night. Yes.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. They could still be out there.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: So, but it wasn't always just about murder, which is
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: unsettling enough. Sometimes you would get like a serial killer, disappearances.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you would get some random UFO story. Yes. Or
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: a ghost story.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Ghost story. Yeah, thanks for the ghost story before I
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: go to bed in my creepy basement.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: You know, someone was trying to locate the nurse who
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: saved their life in 1953.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's... Oh, yes, those were the best.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Yes, and wanted to, like, reunite them.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Or sometimes somebody helped someone, and then they disappeared forever.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: And the person that they saved, like, wanted to reach
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: out and find them.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Uh-huh.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: And so Robert Stask was asking for my help personally.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: And you had to help him.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: I did. I went looking for those people.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: It was a call to the public.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: For help, and we were going to help. It made
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: for incredible TV, and it had never really been done
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: that way before. So... In honor.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: I can't. I want to talk like him so bad. Okay,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: so in honor of that format, our stories tonight aren't
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: all going to be exactly the same. I picked... A
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: story from each.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Like genre kind of. Yeah, subject.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Okay. Let's start with one of the strangest.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, I like it.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Now, these are real stories.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: These were real stories that they showed on the show.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Yes. Our first mystery. I can't even do it. So,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: our first mystery takes us to Ohio, October 1981. 17-year-old
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Kurt Sova goes to a party in Newburgh Heights. At
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: some point during the evening, Kurt disappears. His family starts
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: searching for him. Days go by. No Kurt. Then, five
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: days after he vanished, his body is discovered in a
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: ravine not far from the house where the party he
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: had gone to had taken place. And, like, that's already
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: a tragic story. We could end right there and it
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: would probably be enough, but that's not it.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Here's where it gets weird. investigators reportedly believed Kurt had
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: only been dead for roughly a day or two.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: No way.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: So he'd been missing five days, but only dead a
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: day or two. So immediately there's this question, where was
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Kurt during the missing days?
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, where was he?
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: There were also reports that people had seen him after
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: the party. And then here's one of the creepiest details
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: to the entire case. A man reportedly walked into a
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: record store where Kurt's mother worked. and made a comment
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: suggesting that Kurt would be found dead. Was this man
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: a psychic? And shortly afterward, Kurt was found dead.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Why are you laughing? This poor kid was found dead.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: He visited a party. What's wrong with you?
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: It's a bit dramatic. Several months later, another teenage boy
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: from the area was found dead after also disappearing.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Was he at a party?
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: And both boys were reportedly missing a shoe when they
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: were found. No definitive connection between the deaths has ever
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: been established. Kurt's exact cause of death was never conclusively determined.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: So here's the mystery. Did Kurt leave the party voluntarily?
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Was he staying somewhere for several days? Was somebody hiding him?
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Did he die accidentally or did someone kill him?
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: We'll never know.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: And this is exactly.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, the medical examiner didn't give a cause of death?
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. They didn't do stuff like that
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: back in the 80s. And this is exactly what Unsolved
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Mysteries did so well. They would leave you sitting there
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: thinking somebody knows what happened. And somewhere out there might
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: be the one tiny piece of information that could solve everything.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: That's freaky.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, here's our mystery... Number two story. Now, we're staying
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: in Ohio.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Oh, let's stay there.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: A lot of stuff goes down in Ohio. And this
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: one might be even stranger than the first one. Welcome
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: to Circleville. Beginning in the 1970s, residents around Circleville, Ohio,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: started receiving anonymous letters. These weren't random prank letters. The
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: person writing them seemed to know intimate details about people's
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: private lives.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Ooh.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: And when I say intimate details, wink, wink. One of
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: the primary targets.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Why did you wink, wink at me? I'm so confused.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Because they were sharing things. Well, we're going to get
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: into it. The person writing these letters seemed to know.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Intimate details.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: Intimate details. One of the primary targets was a woman
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: named Mary Gillespie who worked as a school bus driver.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: The writer accused Mary of having an affair with the
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: school superintendent.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: The letters became threatening, and whoever was sending them apparently
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: knew details about Mary's life, her family, and her routine.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: Somebody was stalking Mary Gillespie.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: So, I mean, you would think, right? Eventually, Mary's husband
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: received one of the letters. Then he got a phone call.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: He left the house carrying a gun. Later that night
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: he was found dead after crashing his vehicle. His death, though,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: was ruled an accident. But naturally people wondered if somehow
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: his death was connected to the letters. Then things escalated
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: even more. Mary reportedly saw an offensive sign along her
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: bus route. When she tried to remove it, she discovered
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: something terrifying. A gun had allegedly been rigged into the
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: sign as a booby trap.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: That's what I said, booby trap.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: I was just waiting. Investigators traced the gun to Mary's
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: former brother-in-law, Paul Fresher. Fresher was eventually convicted in connection
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: with the trap. Case closed. Except the letters continued while
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Paul Fresher was in prison.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: He's trying to tell me Paul couldn't send letters from prison.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: And that becomes the central mystery. Was Fresher actually the
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: letter writer? Was somebody else writing them? Were multiple people involved?
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Was someone intentionally continuing the letters to make Fresher look innocent?
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: And here's one of the best examples. creepy details to
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: this story after unsolved mysteries featured the case the show
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: reportedly received a threatening letter believed to be connected to
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: the circleville writer.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Saying if you don't take this off the air we're
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: going to come after.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: You imagine working at unsolved mysteries and opening.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: That letter did unsolved mysteries have their own building.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they should have, and it should have said
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: on the outside, unsolved mysteries. Robert Stack's home.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think it was his home. So could
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Mary have been sending the threatening letters herself? Did she
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: really want to get rid of her husband? And so
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: she sent these threatening letters, and the husband got it,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: and he went out looking for it, and she killed him.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Maybe. And decades later, people still argue about who was
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: actually behind it. The Circleville letters.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Did Mary Gillespie continue on with her life?
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: She did.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Did the superintendent continue on with his life? I think so.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Was the superintendent married?
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Probably.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Do you think it was his wife?
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: We'll never know.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know why she killed the other husband then.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: You'd think if she was the one sending the letters,
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: she would have hooked up with the husband to try
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: and get back at him.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Okay. Mystery number three. April 1991, 20-year-old Angela Hammond is
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: in Clinton, Missouri. Angela is pregnant and engaged to her boyfriend,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Rob Schaefer.
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  Speaker 2: So what's Angela's last name?
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Hammond.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I know an Angela Hammond.
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  Speaker 1: Well, is she dead?
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: No. Unless I know her ghost.
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  Speaker 1: Ha! One night, Angela stops at a payphone and calls Rob.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: Clinton's close to Warsaw, Missouri. Warsaw's where my meemaw's from.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: While Angela is talking to Rob, she notices a pickup
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: truck nearby. She reportedly describes the truck and tells Rob
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: that a man is acting strangely. Then Rob hears Angela scream.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: The phone goes dead. Rob immediately gets in his car
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: and heads toward the payphone. And while he's driving there,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: a truck. passes him. From inside that truck, Rob says
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: he can hear Angela screaming his name.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Rob spins his car around and starts chasing the truck.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: He is actually pursuing the vehicle that he believes contains
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: Angela and her abductor. And then His car breaks down.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Rob's car breaks down?
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: His transmission fails and the truck disappears. Angela Hammond has
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: never been found.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: And imagine being Rob. You know, if the car continues
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: to work, even for another five minutes, does he catch them?
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Does Angela survive? Does he see the license plate? We'll
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: never know. Over the years, there have been different theories
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: and possible leads, but Angela's disappearance remains unsolved. And this
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: is one of those cases that perfectly demonstrates why Unsolved
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Mysteries was so effective. Because suddenly everyone watching the show
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: was looking at that truck and looking at the description
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: and looking at the composite and thinking, have I seen
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: this guy? Do I know this person? How can I help? Update.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: On the 30th anniversary of her disappearance, new details were
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: provided to the public. Investigators are working a theory that
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Angela was mistaken for another woman who was being targeted
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: in the aftermath of her father's legal affairs. This man
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: had acted as an informant in a narcotics case and
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: received a note threatening the life of his daughter, also
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: named Angela. The note was sent on April 4, 1991.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: the very evening of Angela Hammond's abduction. Wow. Authorities believe
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: that due to their similar names and appearances, the two
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: women were mixed up and Angela Hammond was mistakenly abducted.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: As of April 2021, that theory is still being investigated.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Update.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: I love it. Do you think that Unsolved Mysteries made
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: us a generation of paranoid adults? No. You don't think so?
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: I think stranger danger.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: Think about growing up in the 80s. We were told,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: don't talk to strangers. Don't accept candy from strangers.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: Rick Springfield told us that. Don't talk to strangers.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Check the backseat of your car. Yeah. Someone might kidnap
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: you from the mall. There might be razor blades in
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: your Halloween candy. And meanwhile, Robert Stacks over here on
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: TV every Wednesday night telling us a killer disappeared in 1986.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: Scaring the patootie out of us.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: I feel like no wonder we question everything. And now
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: almost 40 years later, we're all about the true crime podcast.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Which unsolved mystery segment scared you the most or caught
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: your attention the most?
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: I think the disappearances as well as the unknown stranger
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: that just disappeared when somebody was trying to find them.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Yes. For me, it was the UFO.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: The UFO was a little frightening.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Or the Bigfoot story. Or, you know, just like that
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: random one-off weird story. That's what always got my attention.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: You know what always got my attention? So, remember when we...
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: found the original Unsolved Mysteries, and we decided to watch
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: an episode. And this was back when we were living
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: with your mom. And so we were in her back
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: bedroom watching it. And Emmy's room and door was right
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: next to our door. And she heard the music and
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: came running in because the music freaked her out.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: And she was like five or six. She was like,
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: I just heard the freakiest music. What's going on?
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: Did you know that Robert Stack was not the original...
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: Host of Unsolved Mysteries.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: I did not.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: When the show debuted January of 1987, it was more
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: of an NBC special. Okay. It didn't become a weekly
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: series until 1988. So, the first host was... You got
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: a guess?
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Bill Shatner?
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: That would have been perfect. Raymond Burr. Oh yeah.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: I think that's somewhere like deep down in the dark
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: recesses of my memory where they don't like to come out.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: I think somehow there's some kind of connection there.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: And then I know this name, but I cannot picture
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: this person. Carl Malden hosted the next two specials.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Carl with a K, right?
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Who is that?
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: I recognize that name too. Um, So they were special.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: So Raymond Burr was the first special.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: Yes. And he was sick. So I have a feeling
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: that's why he didn't continue. Okay.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: So you would totally recognize Carl Molden. He, um, like
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: he just has one of those faces that you would recognize.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's just one of those guys that you would,
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: that you would know.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: So here's what I think the perfect job would have
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: been to work the call center. For Unsolved Mysteries.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: I feel like you would have been given a lot
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: of red herrings working in the call center.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Do you remember later years they would show somebody in
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: the call center while the people were taking the tips
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: and stuff?
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: Total fakes. Total fake.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: That, no, that would have been the perfect job.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: That's so funny. So I just had to do a
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: look back at one of my favorite TV shows of
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: all time.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a lot of people our age feel
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: that way, right?
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Do you think it would have been as good or
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: as scary if Robert Stack wasn't the host?
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: No, I do not. I think he was the perfect host.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, William Shatner would have been a fine host,
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: but he was host of Rescue 911. Yeah, right. And
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: so he did a good job of that. So I
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: feel like Robert Stack, I'm trying to think if there
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: was anybody else that could have done as good of
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: a job. I'm sure there's somebody.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Probably.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: Vincent Price, maybe.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, maybe.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Maybe a little over the top with Vincent Price. But
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: Robert Stack was, I mean, they nailed that casting.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they sure did. For sure. So here I want
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: to hear from people. Of course, we want to hear
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: from people. Just to hear from people. We enjoy hearing
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: from people. But I want to know.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: What do we enjoy? Hearing from people?
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: We just want to hear from people.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: You want to say it any more times? We want
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: to hear from people.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: I just want to hear from people.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: We like hearing from people.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: But there's something special I want to hear about this week.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Anybody who knew someone... whose story was featured on Unsolved Mysteries.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, that would be awesome. You know, our buddy
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: Dave out in Oregon, he's always got some stories.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: He sure does.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: His dad played in a band with Alice Cooper.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: His father-in-law was questioned as a possible Ted Bundy suspect.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: He's always got something. So maybe he knew somebody.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: On Unsolved Mysteries. You know he probably does.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: He probably does. But, yeah, I would love to hear
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: of somebody that knew somebody. But it's got to be
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: the truth. Don't call in and make it up.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, don't.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: Don't make up stories, folks.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Don't make it up.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: Robert stack wasn't making up stories so you should.
• 47:01
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• 47:11
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• 47:57
  Speaker 2: wraps up our look back at Unsolved Mysteries. Lindsay, thanks
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: for all the detail that you put into this.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Happy October, everybody.
• 48:04
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• 48:07
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• 48:08
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• 48:09
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