Latest / Talking FACS / Hope in Tailored Care: Personalized Vaccines for Pancreatic Cancer
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- 0:44Hello and welcome to Cancer Conversations on Talking FACS.
- 0:48We bring to you the latest research from our experts at the Market Cancer Center
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- 1:03Today, my guest is Dr. Joseph Kim, the professor and chief of surgical oncology
- 1:11in the Department of Surgery in the UK College of Medicine.
- 1:15And we're going to be talking about pancreatic cancers. So, Dr.
- 1:20Kim, welcome. I'm happy that you're here with me today.
- 1:24Thank you. It's a pleasure to be here. I have heard that the incidence of pancreatic
- 1:29cancer specifically is rising across the nation and that it is the number one
- 1:36cause of cancer-related deaths.
- 1:39Yes. So, pancreatic cancer is one of the cancers that unfortunately continues
- 1:45to increase in incidence in the United States.
- 1:47And unfortunately, it remains one of the leading causes of cancer-related deaths in the United States.
- 1:54Is there something that we can do about this? You know, we have so many ways
- 1:59to deal with other cancers. Is there a vaccine perhaps that we could take for
- 2:05pancreatic cancer? Yes.
- 2:08Well, as we all went through the COVID pandemic a few years ago,
- 2:13the very same technology that was used to create rapidly the COVID vaccine for
- 2:21all of the people in the United States and across the world,
- 2:25this very same technology has been applied to creating an individualized pancreatic cancer vaccine.
- 2:32And so we're very excited about this promising treatment for pancreatic cancer.
- 2:39But in short, patients who could be eligible to receive the vaccine,
- 2:44they must have disease that is removable with surgery.
- 2:49So patients would need to come to the University of Kentucky.
- 2:52They would need to undergo surgery here to remove the cancer.
- 2:56And once the cancer is removed, We send it over to Europe where the tumor is
- 3:03sequenced and a vaccine that is specific to that particular patient is created.
- 3:10It is then sent back to the United States, to the University of Kentucky.
- 3:15And in this clinical trial, patients would receive the vaccine after they have
- 3:21recovered from surgery.
- 3:22So it's not a vaccine in the sense that it's going to prevent people from getting cancer.
- 3:28Like we think of vaccines prevent people from getting polio,
- 3:33but it will prevent the recurrence of cancer.
- 3:38Yes. Is my correct understanding? That's correct. This vaccine wouldn't prevent
- 3:43patients from getting pancreatic cancer.
- 3:45What it would do is boost your immune system and help your body to fight off
- 3:54the recurrence of pancreatic cancer.
- 3:56And so it would prevent or delay the recurrence of this disease.
- 4:02Which is why you said it was individualized. So it is actually for your own
- 4:06body, and your vaccine is not going to work for somebody else, right?
- 4:11That is correct, and that is the amazing part of this technology,
- 4:15that an individualized vaccine from your particular tumor is created just for you.
- 4:22That is amazing that we're able to do that, isn't it?
- 4:25Yes, absolutely. This is exciting technology, and we hope that this is groundbreaking
- 4:31treatment for pancreatic cancer. Well, and.
- 4:36Wondering, just out loud, if we can do this for pancreatic cancer,
- 4:41is the future of treating other cancers going to be vaccines?
- 4:46Well, thankfully, this technology is being applied to other cancers,
- 4:51and so I expect that we will continue to see this technology being applied to
- 4:58many of the cancers that we see in our patients.
- 5:01But it is being tested in skin cancer, and it is being adopted in other cancers as well.
- 5:09So I also heard you say that you have to have a cancer that is removable.
- 5:15So you have to have a tumor that you can take out.
- 5:18So that says to me that you need to catch it early. Yes, absolutely.
- 5:25Unfortunately, most of the pancreatic cancers that we see here in the United
- 5:30States, they are detected with advanced disease and most patients,
- 5:35The majority of patients do not have disease that can be removed with surgery.
- 5:40So this is a smaller percentage, 20% or so of patients that have pancreatic
- 5:46cancer can safely undergo surgery to remove it entirely.
- 5:51And so that is one of the challenges that we face for pancreatic cancer,
- 5:56detecting it in its earliest stages.
- 5:59And I think one of the reasons for why we tend to detect this cancer in advanced
- 6:07stages is because the symptoms for pancreatic cancer are really nonspecific.
- 6:14The location of the tumor closer to our spine requires the tumor to be quite
- 6:21large and to push on surrounding structures to create symptoms that would lead
- 6:25to detection of disease.
- 6:26These reasons, pancreatic cancer is often detected late.
- 6:32Is there a screening for pancreatic cancer?
- 6:35There isn't a widely accepted form of screening for pancreatic cancer, but patients,
- 6:42individuals can get blood tests that may give clues to whether or not something
- 6:49is wrong in the pancreas.
- 6:51And certainly family history is very important. So there are inherited disease
- 6:56states that can lead to increased risk for pancreatic cancer.
- 7:01So defective genes that are inherited from parents can increase the risk for
- 7:06the development of pancreatic cancer.
- 7:09And so knowing family history and knowing the diseases that may affect your
- 7:15parents, grandparents, and family members is very important for you.
- 7:19Definitely. Are there specific risk factors for people to develop pancreatic
- 7:25cancer? The single most important modifiable risk factor that we know of for
- 7:31pancreatic cancer is smoking.
- 7:34Smoking certainly is related or responsible for other cancers,
- 7:39most notably lung cancer, but it is also very important for the development of pancreatic cancer.
- 7:46Are there symptoms that someone might recognize I know you said they're pretty
- 7:51nonspecific so are there some things that someone might,
- 7:56present to their general physician or their primary care physician and lead them to you.
- 8:04Yes, I think one of the symptoms that develops is that immediately brings the
- 8:12concern of pancreatic cancer is jaundice.
- 8:15And so jaundice can be caused by diseases in the liver, but outside of diseases
- 8:22for the liver, when jaundice develops, we do get worried about,
- 8:27pancreatic cancer and other diseases that can occur in the area of the pancreas.
- 8:35When someone is diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, are there often tumors inside
- 8:39the pancreas or are they going to be on the pancreas or will they sometimes
- 8:45be without other regions but still have that pancreas marker?
- 8:51So for pancreatic cancer, what is important to know about the development of
- 8:57cancers in the pancreas is that there are a number of important blood vessels
- 9:03and other structures that run through the pancreas.
- 9:05So the bile duct runs through the pancreas and so pancreatic cancers,
- 9:09when they push up against and invade the bile duct, that leads to the jaundice.
- 9:16Pancreatic cancers can grow around very important blood vessels that may lead
- 9:22us to say that these cancers are not removable with surgery because there are
- 9:27important blood vessels that we cannot cut out and replace.
- 9:32I think that is the important aspect of pancreatic cancers. Is it pushing on,
- 9:37blocking, invading some of the very important structures that run nearby,
- 9:44through, in and around the pancreas.
- 9:47Okay. Dr. Kim, are there other considerations that we should talk about before we wrap up?
- 9:55Well, I think for our patients that live in Kentucky and the surrounding areas,
- 10:02it's important when there is something different with your body.
- 10:07And I think we all know when there is something that feels abnormal,
- 10:12that your body is acting differently than before, seek medical attention.
- 10:18What we do see frequently are patients that have noticed symptoms or signs and
- 10:24symptoms that are different from before, and it would be in their best interest
- 10:28to seek medical attention as soon as they can.
- 10:32Okay. Dr. Kim, thank you so much for your time. I know that this discussion
- 10:36has been enlightening for me, and I'm sure that it has been for our listeners
- 10:41as well. Well, thank you very much.
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