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Cancer, food, biolabs, ‘You don’t know what you don’t know’ Q&A 193 · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  If we've learned anything from these past couple of years, my fellow Americans is that personal medical freedom and liberty are in crisis.
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  America Roll Law Pulse brings together the top experts in health care related fields to keep you a beaten ahead.
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  You know, we've discussed uh before on this program many times, and you you probably recall uh with the biolabs.
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  We've talked about them all around the world.
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  We've talked about them here in the States.
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  We've talked about them when they, you know, we had the big problems with Ukraine, and there was a lot of deep concerns there.
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  Uh and uh this has been an ongoing problem uh that we've addressed.
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  And you know what I didn't think of, actually.
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  I don't know about you out there, but uh Iran.
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  What about uh biolabs in the I mean because these are uh you know, I hate to say it this way, but some of these in my mind are are ticking time bomb, I guess I would say.
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  And I and I don't do fear here.
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  I think you know that, but they are of deep, deep concern.
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  And so interesting story, uh, an interesting piece that uh uh Nick uh Holcher uh did on this uh about a I don't know, about a week, week and a half ago, something like that.
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  And I mentioned to um to McCullough, Dr.
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  McCullough that, you know, we've got to talk about this a little bit here and bring this out here.
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  Uh so we're gonna do that a little bit here.
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  Uh I want to talk a little bit more about the uh this uh unbelievable results and uh correspondence we're getting from the study and the um the feedback on ivermectin and mbendazole.
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  Uh you know, we we've talked about that, Dr.
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  McCullough and I have quite a bit there.
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  Then you uh this interesting interview I did with Dr.
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  Kelly Victory on SHIELD would touch on that as well.
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  Boy, she is really something special, I have to tell you here.
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  By the way, welcome into America Out Loud Pulse.
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  It is indeed Malcolm Outloud here, along with today, Nick Hulcher is with us, and uh uh Dr.
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  McCullough is traveling, and just excited to have uh Nick here.
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  He's an epidemiologist and the administrator of the McCullough Foundation.
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  And man, I tell you all the time, brother, you are doing some fantastic work, and you continue to uh impress impress and press and press.
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  Good job.
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  Well, I appreciate it, and thanks for having me back.
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  Oh, it's a privilege always, brother.
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  It's our privilege to have you uh for sure.
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  Um so let's start with this uh this story.
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  I I was very, very fascinated with this, uh Nick, this uh this one uh with the biolabs.
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  And this has been a deep concern of mine, and I know Dr.
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  McCullough as well, because so much can go wrong with these.
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  So much.
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  And I worry about it from a standpoint of even terror and terrorism around the world and this kind of thing.
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  And I I, you know, we're we're coming into a whole new chapter today of of our world, and there's a lot that should uh just be of great concern to us that I think we want to be proactive about.
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  This is one of those topics here uh with the biolabs and all.
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  And and and again, the U.S.
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  has got a lot of them too.
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  We're as guilty as the next one uh with some of the uh some of this here.
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  Um but uh so uh you brought up a big concern because of the national threats about power plants and bridges that were said from the White House and so on and so forth.
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  And and we're not trying to get political here or go down those rabbit holes here today, specifically want to stay on the health side of this thing, frankly.
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  Uh so I know you all have interest in that.
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  Uh but um uh this was a because and I, you know, I never connected that dot.
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  Leave it to you to do that, Nick, and say, you know, and uh, but uh that could present a real problem.
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  But let's take a look first at Iran and what is the footprint on these things?
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  How many, any idea how many they have, uh what the status is of any of these things?
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  Because we're talking things that are in here.
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  Uh I must see some of the notes here, uh, some of the uh the usual suspects and stuff, but um let's see here.
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  Uh anthrax, right, including anthrax, uh plague bacteria.
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  Uh you got all kinds of things resting these biolabs.
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  Uh give us a assessment of what's what's over there.
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  Yeah, so Iran, there's there's at least about 13 biolaboratories that could contain these uh either known pathogens, like you just mentioned, anthrax bacteria or or even uh concerningly what's called pneumonic plague.
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  Wow.
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  This is a plague bacteria that can spread through respiratory droplets, can be highly lethal if not treated within a you know, 24 hours with antibiotics.
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  Um they have all they can have, but the thing is is they could have undeclared pathogens and modified pathogens that we have no clue what they are, could be viruses, could be bacteria, could be fungi.
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  So it could be something we never even heard of before, right?
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  I mean, exactly, exactly.
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  And there's no way we know exactly what they're doing in these labs, you know, without somebody who's inside of them uh relaying that intelligence.
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  I don't think that's occurred.
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  And so, you know, the the main threat becomes well, they haven't released anything intentionally.
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  Um, they could, but they haven't.
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  And so what we're concerned about is if you take out their power supply completely, if you take out Iran's electricity and destroy all the power plants, the threat of uh these pathogens unknown or known, um, basically becomes very highly probable because in order to contain pathogens, you need electricity.
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  And so you shut the electricity off, there goes the ventilation, the refrigeration.
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  Um, and both of those are critical.
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  Those go out, you know, some of this can get out through, you know, the air, um, you know, because there's there's not proper containment anymore.
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  And then you have physical damage to the to the laboratories, which can obviously cause, you know, leakage as well.
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  And then when you destroy the bridges, uh there won't be any staff able to even get to these facilities.
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  And then it'll just be unattended.
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  And then even some rogue actor could come in and you know, steal those samples.
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  So it meant there's many different scenarios.
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  But the key thing is you cut off a country's electricity, their biolabs will face containment failure.
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  Biolabs will face containment failure.
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  Nick, should we assume or should we not assume that the federal government uh uh knows this, uh I mean, I would have to assume they know this, but uh that uh they sort of know where these biolabs are, I would imagine, and that they would um uh consider all that within whatever the strategy is.
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  Nick, should we assume or should we not assume that the federal government uh uh knows this?
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  Uh I mean, I would have to assume they know this, but uh that uh they sort of know where these biolabs are, I would imagine, and that they would um uh consider all that within whatever the strategy is.
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  Uh what do you say about that?
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  Uh what do you say about that?
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  Yeah, you know, I would I would suspect they are aware of that for sure.
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  Yeah, you know, I would I would suspect they are aware of that for sure.
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  Um but again, you know, we don't know exactly what what the planning activities are if they take these into account.
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  But yeah, I suspect they would.
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  Um, but a few of them have taken severe damage.
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  The pastor institute of Iran um is one of these facilities that has some pathogens that was struck a few weeks ago, and there was a with the initial bombing and stuff that had happened, you're saying, right?
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  Yes, yeah, yes.
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  Okay.
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  So some of them could be damaged either advertently or inadvertently.
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  Uh but that didn't result in any leaks or anything.
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  Um so yeah, I mean, it's it's it's just a situation that we that needs to be, you know, addressed and made aware of for sure, because you know, we don't want to face some sort of you know modified pathogen pandemic um originating from Iran because not only would that you know cause it a pandemic, but um it would escalate things quite severely.
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  You know, Nick, I have been um uh severely uh concerned uh on this topic uh for a long time, for some years now, uh, when I've become more uh aware of the level of biolabs that there are around the world, and in many of these countries that are in conflict and others, I mean they're scattered throughout Ukraine.
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  In fact, America's arms are in a lot of those labs in Ukraine.
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  We have responsibilities in those, and yet Russia, you see all the bombing that's been done there, and uh I was concerned then.
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  But the other thing I've been concerned with um uh this goes years back now, is that you know, I I just questioned myself, and I yeah, I think about everybody can hear me on would probably agree with this, but you know, some of the stuff is kind of out of our control, and the point of that is that if a you know there's a lot of terror around the world and people who want to do harm.
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  I mean, there it's there just is, and it's not just Iran, they're in many places, friends.
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  It it comes back to something I talk about all the time, the fight of good and evil.
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  And that's really what this fight is all about.
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  And um, but but that is just a state of fact.
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  And I've often think about that um, you know, is it a matter of time, Nick, before uh the wrong hands and the wrong eyes and arms get on these pathogens, and they literally take them as a weapon, as a weapon, and they go ahead and use them in some capacity to do harm.
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  Because let's face it, Nick.
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  I mean, you know, you could have a couple of missiles, you could have a couple of this or that, some bombs, guns, whatever, but I mean, if you really want to do extensive damage, this would probably the biolab, this kinds of pathogens and uh these kinds of things could do serious harm to a people uh in about any country.
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  What do you say to that, sir?
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  Yeah, you're right.
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  A pathogen could do more damage than any missile ever could, unless it was nuclear.
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  It could even do more damage though than a nuclear detonation.
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  That's right.
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  That's right.
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  You know, for sure, far more depending on what it is.
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  And so, yeah, we don't want to play around with them.
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  We don't want anybody to release them.
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  It would be a catastrophe.
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  And we know there's over 3600 bio high containment bio laboratories across the world.
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  That's the same.
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  Is that the number, Nick?
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  3600?
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  Wow.
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  Yeah, 3600.
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  Um, about half of them are in the U.S., which is worrisome.
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  And but that's not it.
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  It's like 90% of them or 70% of them, we don't even know what pathogens they're working with or their exact locations.
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  And so, you know, that's that's that means they could be working with anything, basically.
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  They could be working on uh for sure bio biological weapons, uh grade pathogens, or you know, just something entirely synthetic.
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  Uh since a completely synthetic pathogen modified fungi, you know, though that would concern me quite deeply if something like that got out.
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  Um and just just all sorts of things.
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  And so, you know, it's like about over 200 laboratory leaks confirmed and documented have occurred since 2001.
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  And again, a vast majority of those occurred in the United States.
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  Now, most of those obviously were not, you know, pandemic pathogens, but uh some did result in fatal infections.
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  And that doesn't even take into account COVID.
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  Um that leak, obviously, was was absolutely detrimental.
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  Um so they occur often.
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  Um and nobody's stopping them.
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  Nobody's, you know, nobody's shutting these labs down, nobody's investigating these suspected leaks, particularly bird flu.
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  I mean, we published a paper suspecting that it the avian influenza crisis that began in 2021 was actually from USDA gain of function research at the Southeast Poultry Research Laboratory in Athens, Georgia.
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  You know, Nick, uh I'm sitting here in the studio shaking my head as you're talking uh in almost disbelief at some of the things we're talking about.
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  But but I I do know much of this already, but just hearing it out uh in the space here reminds should remind all of us of the risk and the danger here involved in all of this.
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  And as you say, you know, you we we're at the thrust of this, more than half of them here in the U.S., as you say, Nick, that's incredible.
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  So the numbers there, and we're involved in a lot of the others around the world, Nick, as well.
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  We're totally involved with a lot of the Ukraine ones, and I don't know about other countries' uh involvement, but I'm sure we're not involved in the ones in Iran.
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  Uh, but it doesn't matter.
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  They're they're in all kinds of countries, all kinds of places.
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  And you know, yeah, you have to think, and as I say, Nick, I'm shaking my head, and I guess what I mean is that uh, and I th maybe people can relate to this, but I I think to myself, uh, and I I think, you know, what we are human beings, you humanity.
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  People can relate to this, but I I think to myself, you know, what we are human beings, you humanity.
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  We are just um put a lot of adjectives here, but um darn fools to be sure would be near the list here.
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  We are just um put a lot of adjectives here, but um darn fools to be sure would be near the list here.
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  But uh we are our own enemies, really.
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  But uh we are our own enemies, really.
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  When you think about this gift we have, and this is really where my mind goes all the time.
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  When you think about this gift we have, and this is really where my mind goes all the time.
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  We have this gift of of life and this gift of this world.
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  We have this gift of of life and this gift of this world, this planet, which just you know, it's the way I see the world, Nick.
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  We're just we're just happening to be positioned in the universe of universes.
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  This it really, this is the way I look at it.
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  I'm I'm very sincere.
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  And we're just in position the the I call it Nick, this blue marble in the universe of universes, and from and and we just happen to be right here.
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  That that in other words, the right proper distance that we have day and night from the sun, and that the temperatures are appropriate that we can survive and live and thrive and and be a people and humanity.
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  And I'll think about it in those terms, and then you think about the evil here and the evil we have to fight, and you think we we are like our own enemies, humanity, human beings, and uh I don't know, it's just the way my mind works, I guess.
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  But I do see it as a fight of good and evil, and uh uh a lot of times.
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  Um that makes sense, uh I guess, Nick, or you agree with that?
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  Oh, yeah.
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  Yeah, definitely.
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  It's it's shocking that you know there's so much evil here on this planet.
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  You're right.
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  We should be happy.
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  We're alive, happy, we're on this planet with perfect conditions for life.
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  And you know, we're just uh we're we're not living in harmony.
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  We're you know, there's so much chaos going on every day.
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  There's something new that's yeah, more and more disturbing and shocking and all facets, all subjects, and there's always one thing more shocking than the last thing, Nick.
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  You know, basically.
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  I mean, come on.
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  I see who what's the most shocking thing that can outdo the last shocking thing.
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  You know, Nick, this is a topic that I I want to stay behind.
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  I want to you you said it moments ago.
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  You said something there's not enough awareness, people don't want to talk about this, so on and so forth.
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  But you said something to that end, and uh this is something we need to take on as a cause here.
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  Uh, and I I want to be involved in this, and I'd like to um uh rally us to do something more as a network and and bring more awareness to this topic.
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  Bring more weirdness to hold governments responsible and responsible people uh to be accountable for what is going on.
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  And we so there's a network, and as a as a host myself, as somebody who deeply cares, uh, we need to make this uh rallying call.
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  Because this just this is one of the most important topics we could talk about, Nick, because I mean this is this has the magnitude as you well, you said it moments ago, uh, 10 minutes ago.
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  You said this would be more serious than uh a nuclear bomb going off.
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  And you said it, buddy.
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  You said it.
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  And the reality of it is you're true, you're accurate.
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  You're you're true, it's real, because these things don't know any boundaries.
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  This kind of a disease of pathogen, uh the these uh bubonic plays, these things that have they don't know boundaries, right, Nick.
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  They just they they know no boundaries.
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  They can go, they pass state lines, country lines.
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  You know, uh I don't know about interplanetary, but but they would do some damage here in ways that is uh unbelievable.
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  Right.
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  Is that fair?
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  Is that fair?
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  That's very fair.
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  Yeah, that's very fair.
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  And you know, nothing surprises me at this point.
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  I mean, I saw an article, I don't know how true it is, but uh these AI companies, they're trying to use one of their advanced models to like summon some portal to some other entities.
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  I mean, you can't make this up, it's a real story, and so you know, there's lots of things going on that uh you know, cross national boundaries, and you know there's there appears to be you know a transnational syndicate that uh does not like humanity very well.
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  Yeah, right, right.
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  Yeah, that and well, that's true.
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  And the culture and the story we started with today, we know they don't like I'm I'm I'm just saying it is a fact that that uh the the radical extreme part of that.
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  I mean, um uh not the people, the uh like many of these countries, friends, the Iranian people are beautiful people and are totally innocent of the deranged lunatics run on the farm.
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  Uh and you can say that about a lot of these countries, actually, uh, that it's accurate to say that.
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  You say here, I like this statement, Nick.
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  You say on this uh piece you did here, blur in the line between public health and weapons work.
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  And that's kind of what I was driving at just a moment ago, and I just caught wind of your your your in your piece you you put together here on this, which really was really solid, around the biological weapons infrastructure, around almost certainly possesses biological weapons research capabilities.
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  The U.S.
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  State Department has assessed that Tehran retains the flexibility to convert legitimate research into lethal biological weapons production.
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  The ODNI assessed in March 25 that Iran very likely aims to continue RD of biological agents for offensive purposes.
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  These capabilities sit within a network of military-affiliated universities, IRGC-linked research centers, and dual-use pharmaceutical institutions, deliberately embedded in civilian infrastructure to blur the line between public health and weapons work.
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  That's kind of what I was assessing without reading that, but as I just read through as you were talking, I said, well, that paragraph sizes this problem up in a pretty significant way.
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  So you've certainly thought about this as well, Nick, because you wrote that, so you you you've been thinking about this yourself, correct?
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  Yes, exactly.
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  You know, we the the problem becomes is these dangerous activities do become embedded in civilian civilian uh universities or civilian appearing to be civilian to the external world.
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  And you know, it's the same thing though, in many other countries as well.
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  You know, uh particularly, I mean, at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, you know, nobody was really thinking that they were making uh chimeric uh SARS viruses, uh, but they were, and they were they were collaborating with uh the Wuhan lab to make it uh transmissible among humans.
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  And so wasn't that the spark that was the spark, wasn't it, that uh created this catastrophe, wasn't it?
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  Uh created this catastrophe, wasn't it?
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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  Yeah, exactly.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, that was it.
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  That was it.
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  You but what you're right to point that out indeed.
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  You put what you're right to point that out indeed.
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  It's what I was talking about a moment ago here as well.
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  It's what I was talking about a moment ago here as well.
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  All right.
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  All right, if for those of you out there that are as concerned as as I am and Nick is, and and maybe have more questions on this or some thoughts.
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  For those of you out there that are as concerned as as I am and Nick is, and maybe have more questions on this or some thoughts.
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  I'd love your thoughts on this topic.
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  Send it directly to me so I'll see it, and uh then I can I can know you've spoken out about it.
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  Let me know your thoughts out there about it, please.
• 21:53
  Uh right, Malcolm at AmericaOutloud.news.
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  I'd love to hear from you and see what you think about this topic.
• 21:58
  Now, I just recently had on, and I want to talk about this ibermectanimabendazole since we got Nick on here.
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  And Nick was the first author of this thing.
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  I mean, it the the work Nick is doing is nothing short of incredible.
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  And I I say this, uh I say this because it's it's the truth.
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  And he's doing some incredible work.
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  And um, but but but anyways, I I want to marry that into this bigger conversation.
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  You know, I'm feeling a little jump in the step a little bit when it comes to fighting cancer a bit, because I'm seeing some new uh ideas, some new remedies, which you know, uh you if you've heard me talk about this before, friends.
• 22:35
  Uh that to me pushes back a little bit against uh the the tridol traditional stuff of of uh chemotherapy and radiation because I I've seen what's happened to friends where they didn't die from the cancer, they died from the chemo chemotherapy that uh that fried their bodies and destroyed their organs, and that is a fact.
• 22:57
  That that just happened here this past year to a dear friend.
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  And uh they um they uh that they at the end of the day they said, well, the the cancer's not there anymore, but either was her freaking lungs anymore, Nick.
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  So they lost her lungs and she died from the um you know, that's when the the when the solution is more of a problem than the problem or can be.
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  I guess you gotta really shake your head.
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  So the the point I'm saying is there are some new ideas and new thoughts to really consider.
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  And I know if it happens in my life or in my family's life, we're gonna look at all of these ideas, I have to tell you.
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  But I was talking to Dr.
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  Kelly Victory the other day.
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  In fact, I'll tell you what, you all got to go watch the show.
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  I love it.
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• 24:42
  And if you just go up on America Loud.news to talk shows and podcasts and look for that uh Project Out Loud, Malcolm Out Loud, you'll see it right there.
• 24:50
  It's brand new, friends.
• 24:51
  I'd love to know.
• 24:52
  I you know what?
• 24:53
  I'd love to know what you think of this too.
• 24:55
  I'd love your opinion on that.
• 24:57
  It's just brand new show.
• 24:58
  We've launched it.
• 24:58
  I've been planning on this for a better part of a year, and we just launched it.
• 25:02
  And I'm gonna have Nick on there on that as well for the full hour and video format.
• 25:05
  And uh we're gonna have to do a celebration.
• 25:08
  You've never seen Dr.
• 25:09
  McCullough and I in video format because that doesn't exist yet, but that's going to be a celebration when we do that, isn't it now on this show.
• 25:15
  I don't know.
• 25:16
  Maybe we'll do the 200th here on video format.
• 25:19
  Somebody think of that.
• 25:20
  I don't know.
• 25:20
  Anyways, uh, so we talk about the shield, and she talks about it in that that show we did with Dr.
• 25:25
  Kelly Victory.
• 25:26
  And I gotta tell you, Nick, I like her a lot.
• 25:30
  I mean, a real lot.
• 25:31
  She is just a powerhouse.
• 25:35
  And her story is incredible, and it is a powerhouse.
• 25:40
  And she's such a sincere, authentic, beautiful person.
• 25:45
  I like her a lot.
• 25:46
  And so we hit we hit it off.
• 25:48
  We had great synergy and just hit it off marvelously well.
• 25:52
  You'll see that on the program.
• 25:53
  Go listen to it.
• 25:54
  Go watch it, actually.
• 25:55
  So I want you to watch it and tell me what you think out there.
• 25:58
  Uh, but the other story we've been talking about that I want you to talk about, Nick, is the author of that is the ivermectinazole is incredible.
• 26:06
  And uh this has been I hear I see the feedback coming in from uh listeners, and they're really excited about this.
• 26:12
  When you're you're one of your first author on this thing, you're quite involved in it and wrote this up.
• 26:17
  Uh what do you think about all this?
• 26:19
  Tell us.
• 26:20
  Yeah, this study is massive.
• 26:23
  It's massive.
• 26:24
  It's the first and largest real-world human study on ivermectinum and benzol in cancer patients.
• 26:33
  Previously, we had multiple case reports, case series of individuals who experience remission or complete remission with antiparasitics.
• 26:45
  Um, but that's not enough.
• 26:47
  So we needed to advance it with larger sample sizes.
• 26:51
  So in this particular paper, we had 200 cancer patients with active cancer, over 20 different cancer types.
• 27:00
  And so it was a wide variety of uh cancer patients.
• 27:04
  Uh 36% had active metastatic disease.
• 27:08
  So it was currently spreading stage three, stage four.
• 27:13
  And then the rest were you know, stage one, stage two, they had tumors, but it wasn't currently spreading.
• 27:19
  And so they were they were prescribed through the uh wellness company telemedicine platform, compounded ivermectinum and benzol tablets, 25 milligrams of ivermectin, and uh 250 milligrams of membazole in each capsule.
• 27:37
  And after six months, 84.4% of them reported to have benefited in their cancer.
• 27:44
  That's a giant percent, massive, massive proportion.
• 27:47
  You don't see that with any other uh biologicals, uh biologics, cancer, gene therapies.
• 27:55
  You know, that's not what you see.
• 27:57
  And so it's it was very surprising.
• 28:00
  Now it is observational, right?
• 28:00
  Now it is observational, right?
• 28:02
  You know, these were self-reported outcomes, but uh regardless, this is a massive signal, particularly when half reported that their cancers either disappeared or the tumor shrank.
• 28:02
  You know, these were self-reported outcomes, but uh regardless, this is a massive signal, particularly when half reported that their cancers either disappeared or the tumor shrank.
• 28:14
  Um that's that's absolutely massive.
• 28:14
  Um that's that's absolutely massive.
• 28:17
  And uh 36% said their cancers were stabilized.
• 28:17
  And uh 36% said their cancers were stabilized, it wasn't growing anymore.
• 28:22
  It wasn't growing anymore.
• 28:24
  So yeah, now what's needed is large scale randomized double blind.
• 28:24
  So yeah, now what's needed is large-scale randomized double blind placebo controlled trials, which costs millions, by the way.
• 28:34
  Uh government should be funding this and doing it, but they're not.
• 28:38
  And so, you know, people want to support that, you know.
• 28:41
  You can check us out, mcalafnd.org.
• 28:44
  And you know, we're trying to get some some bigger sample sizes and you know, real um real clinical adjudications of these cases as we advance this research.
• 28:57
  Yeah, well, the the study, as you say, was extensive.
• 29:01
  The what you did, they're already 80.4%, 84.4 is right, the number, I think, Nick, right?
• 29:07
  Uh yeah that uh there was uh a proactive uh measurement too, right?
• 29:12
  I mean, something good happened, right?
• 29:14
  Uh and uh that was incredible, and uh but people are seeing a movement, and there was a percentage.
• 29:20
  Correct me on the percentage.
• 29:21
  If I remember right, Nick, I don't have anything in front of me on this, but I think it was 30 something percent that that they uh uh hold on, they uh probably won't word this right, but they that uh the there wasn't a uh there wasn't a sign of cancer once they went through that, it actually didn't find any uh any um findings of the tumor itself or something.
• 29:43
  Is that correct?
• 29:44
  Yeah, no evidence of disease, 36%.
• 29:47
  And that means the scans, you know, everything uh MRIs, uh CT scan, nothing showed cancer anymore.
• 29:57
  The cancer was apparently gone in those individuals.
• 30:01
  Well, that is unbelievable.
• 30:03
  That's what you call a miracle.
• 30:05
  And if you can get that done, Nick, without losing your lungs or a vital organ because of the chemo that fried it, that's a big thing, isn't it?
• 30:14
  Oh, yeah, exactly.
• 30:15
  Yeah, chemo.
• 30:16
  Remember, chemo clinical benefit ratio is like it can be as low as 10%.
• 30:22
  Yeah, sometimes it can be 60%, but you know, that's just with the cancer.
• 30:27
  That doesn't that that clinical benefit, while it's lower than 80 far lower than 84%.
• 30:35
  Um, yeah, you also are destroying your entire body.
• 30:39
  Um, you know, causing organ failure, and you know, dispermanent uh damage to you know, your vital organ systems.
• 30:49
  And so, and many of which some people never recover after chemo.
• 30:53
  The cancer might be gone, uh, but they're miserable now.
• 30:57
  Well, it just happened, like I said, to a friend.
• 31:00
  The cancer was gone, uh, Nick, if you can believe that.
• 31:03
  That's what's the message the doctor said, but they were on now uh a machine to breathe, and the lungs were gone, and she had hours left to live.
• 31:12
  It's ridiculous.
• 31:13
  It's dying, it's dinosaur, you know, caveman technology to just inject um highly, you know, uh a highly a highly poisonous substance into the body that just destroys everything.
• 31:30
  I mean, why are we still doing that?
• 31:32
  It's 2026, and you know, it's it's ridiculous.
• 31:38
  It's ridiculous.
• 31:38
  And even some of these others, some of these other treatments, and now they're trying to push mRNA shots for cancer.
• 31:46
  Though that data's also disastrous for the most part.
• 31:50
  Yeah.
• 31:51
  Um, and and you know, it's it's uh we have to get to cheap and safe compounds.
• 31:59
  I didn't know you felt this way.
• 32:00
  I'm so glad we talked about this.
• 32:02
  I had no idea you were going to say what you just said.
• 32:05
  I I didn't know where you felt in the spectrum of that, but it sounds to me like you actually pretty close to feel the same way I do about it.
• 32:13
  And I guess the best way to ask you this, maybe, Nick, and say that if you like if it happened to me, like if something happened to you and you were given you're in the office and you're talking about treatment and what have you, you wouldn't necessarily jump right into chemotherapy then, or would you?
• 32:28
  Or would you look for other alternatives?
• 32:31
  No, I would not take chemo personally, but for everyone listening, this is not medical bias.
• 32:36
  I'm not a physician, but personally, I would not take chemo.
• 32:42
  In fact, I wouldn't do radiation either.
• 32:44
  Now, uh what I would do is do basically everything that's been shown to be safe, right?
• 32:52
  And also has data behind it.
• 32:53
  And there's many of those things, by the way.
• 32:55
  You know, it's not like this stuff's pulled out of thin air.
• 32:58
  Like, for example, high dose IV vitamin C, a clinical trial came out last year, was published.
• 33:06
  Uh, stage four pancreatic cancer patients.
• 33:09
  Those who got the IV vitamin C live twice as long, right?
• 33:14
  So, I mean, this stuff's very promising.
• 33:16
  It's not all, you know, voodoo medicine, you know, just anecdotal.
• 33:21
  And that's what I would do.
• 33:22
  I would try all of that.
• 33:24
  And if it still progressed, then maybe I would start to consider more conventional things.
• 33:29
  Right.
• 33:30
  But uh, no, not to begin with.
• 33:32
  We are thinking about the same lines because that's my personal feelings.
• 33:36
  What you just described and explained is where I have been for some years now in thinking that way.
• 33:44
  And just because I've seen too much on that other side of that.
• 33:47
  But I will say this.
• 33:48
  When you do watch the interview I did with Dr.
• 33:50
  Kelly Victory, she talks about what she was taken at home that produced this new product called Shield.
• 33:59
  Um, but she also and she started to multiply those ideas and really got into a lot of the things like Nick just said, other alternative treatments, ideas, and that's what she put together in this revolutionary product called SHIELD.
• 34:14
  But she also did compliment that with she did end up doing uh she first of all had the lump removed surgically, she wanted it out of the air.
• 34:23
  They were not going to do it, by the way.
• 34:25
  And she describes her story on this.
• 34:26
  So you gotta you gotta watch this.
• 34:28
  And she says they didn't want to do it.
• 34:30
  She said, and she said you're gonna take that damn thing out of there.
• 34:33
  And but she, if she had listened to them, it they wouldn't that they would have gone another path.
• 34:39
  But she insisted, and you have to be insistent when it's your body, you you your life.
• 34:45
  And she did that.
• 34:46
  Now she did end up having, she did not do any chemo.
• 34:49
  She did have some radiation to make sure that be which she felt was safe, which she felt, and she did whatever doses, I don't know.
• 34:57
  Again, she talks about this on the show, but she did that as a measurement to make sure that that was not coming back and that it was not on the lymph nodes, and it was not.
• 35:00
  Did that as a measurement to make sure that that was not coming back and that it was not on the lymph nodes and it was not.
• 35:06
  So that kind of treatment would make sense, Nick.
• 35:06
  So that kind of treatment would make sense, Nick.
• 35:09
  And that's what she did.
• 35:09
  And that's what she did.
• 35:11
  And she is a success story, right?
• 35:11
  And she is a success story, right?
• 35:13
  I mean, come on.
• 35:13
  I mean, come on.
• 35:14
  Oh, yeah.
• 35:14
  Oh, yeah.
• 35:15
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• 35:15
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• 35:16
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• 35:17
  So you use it in the way that you use it.
• 35:17
  So you use it in the way that you use it.
• 35:20
  And then if you need to compliment some other things, but you have to get smart about it.
• 35:20
  And then if you need to compliment some other things, but you have to get smart about it.
• 35:23
  So, anyways, I recommend you do that.
• 35:23
  So, anyways, I recommend you do that.
• 35:25
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• 35:25
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• 36:02
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• 36:08
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• 36:14
  Um really and very curing people are behind the drive of this, is what I see.
• 36:18
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• 36:24
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• 37:13
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• 37:16
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  Privileged to be with you always, my fellow Americans.
• 40:09
  Welcome back to the broadcast.
• 40:10
  And America Outloud Pulse is what we're talking here today.
• 40:15
  Got uh Nick Hulser with us.
• 40:17
  Uh Nicholas, Nick.
• 40:20
  Uh and uh he is uh just doing incredible work.
• 40:24
  He uh epidemiologist administrator of the McCullough Foundation, and uh he's a great guy.
• 40:29
  And uh really proud to know him and know the work he's doing there.
• 40:33
  Uh I think it's just been uh just terrific.
• 40:36
  I'm probably one of your biggest fans, Nick, and if I'm not, I should be.
• 40:39
  You know that.
• 40:42
  Right.
• 40:43
  So I make you embarrassed, but you you gotta know we're proud of you and the work you're doing there.
• 40:49
  You really work hard.
• 40:50
  I appreciate it.
• 40:51
  I appreciate it.
• 40:52
  Thank you.
• 40:54
  You deserve it for sure here.
• 40:55
  All right, we're gonna jump into some uh you're very humble, Nick as well, by the way, here.
• 41:00
  But uh, other people would get the other people would hear that and they'd say, Darn right, Malcolm.
• 41:07
  Nick is very humble, so that's a good quality, I think.
• 41:10
  You know, uh all right, QA 193.
• 41:12
  We're gonna jump into some questions here and see.
• 41:14
  And again, as Nick said a little while ago, uh, on a pulse, we answer lots of QA's, lots of questions, but uh we were given educational advice, not specifically medical advice, of course.
• 41:24
  Uh, but it is the point of uh education and things that we uh uh uh assess and surmise based on things, and uh that's what this is all about here.
• 41:34
  All right, Linda says getting the flu vaccine.
• 41:39
  I have never had any vaccine except for childhood required vaccines to attend school.
• 41:45
  I am 78.
• 41:46
  Wow.
• 41:47
  So you okay, I hear you.
• 41:49
  I had the flu this year.
• 41:50
  My question should I now get the flu vaccine every year?
• 41:54
  I did not get the COVID vaccines, and I did not get COVID.
• 41:57
  Well, that's isn't that funny, Linda.
• 41:59
  It uh and it's true what you said there.
• 42:00
  And it's true what you said there.
• 42:01
  Many of the people who didn't get any of the vaccines didn't get some of the COVID or gut mildly.
• 42:01
  Many of the people who didn't get any of the vaccines didn't get some of the COVID or gut mildly.
• 42:06
  Those who got the vaccines, the covered vaccines got heavy hit and had all kinds of problems.
• 42:06
  Those who got the vaccines, the covered vaccines got heavy hit and had all kinds of problems.
• 42:11
  And you just said it right there in your uh commentary there.
• 42:11
  And you just said it right there in your uh commentary there.
• 42:14
  So you said I have no comorbidities.
• 42:14
  So you said I have no comorbidities.
• 42:16
  I am just 78 getting older.
• 42:16
  I am just 78 getting older.
• 42:18
  God bless you, Linda.
• 42:18
  God bless you, Linda.
• 42:19
  So uh a lot of people are talking, Nick against these, uh, even the flu vaccines.
• 42:19
  So uh a lot of people are talking Nick against these uh even the flu vaccines.
• 42:24
  And I think even Dr.
• 42:24
  And I think even Dr.
• 42:25
  McCullough here said, you know, maybe give it a little time and see where it's all going.
• 42:25
  McCullough here said, you know, maybe give it a little time and see where it's all going.
• 42:28
  But a lot of times, uh, as I
• 42:28
  But a lot of times, uh as I understand the Nick, and you tell me, as I understand it, by the time they come out with the flu vaccine, many of the current uh flush it doesn't even handle anymore because that happens like all the time with these vaccines.
• 42:40
  Is that correct, Statement?
• 42:42
  Yeah, that's that's a correct statement.
• 42:44
  You know, RFK once said he wouldn't take a flu shot in a million years, and you know, I agree with that statement, unfortunately, because and the biggest tell is not only you're right, they're most of the time they're wrong, and the flu shot doesn't even match the circulating strain.
• 43:02
  But there was a study last year by the Cleveland Clinic.
• 43:06
  They looked at 50,000 health care workers, and they compared who got the flu vaccine to who didn't.
• 43:12
  Those health care workers at the Cleveland Clinic that got a flu vaccine hit a 27% increased risk of getting the flu during flu season.
• 43:22
  So not only did it not work, but they were more likely to get the flu if they got the flu shot.
• 43:28
  And then there was another study by Cowling and colleagues.
• 43:31
  Uh that was about 10 years ago.
• 43:34
  They looked at those who got the flu shots, and they had like a 300% increased risk of other infections after getting the flu shot, some sort of immune dysregulation mechanism.
• 43:45
  Um, so considering all that, um, you could you'll take it, and then you have to face the risk as well of serious adverse events, including but not limited to Guillain Baret syndrome, which is debilitating, can cause paralysis and even death, unfortunately, in severe cases.
• 44:08
  And so, yeah, I'm not a big fan of flu shots at this point in time.
• 44:13
  Yeah, I've seen people who have taken the general flu vaccine have gotten very, very ill from it.
• 44:19
  I don't uh I've not seen death from it myself personally, I'm saying, but I've seen older uh folks do that and uh pay the consequences of it.
• 44:26
  I I don't take these shots, I've never taken them.
• 44:29
  I take vitamin D.
• 44:31
  And I take uh 10, 15,000 I use a day.
• 44:35
  I take other things, friends, but uh I think there are other ways you can protect your health with a healthy immune system, uh, rather than these um flu shots.
• 44:42
  And yeah, vitamin D, exactly.
• 44:45
  That's going to be much more beneficial, and even bovine colostrum.
• 44:50
  Um this is like the the milk of cows that they make.
• 44:56
  Um, you know, when um when they first I think when they when the mother has has birth, they produce a special kind of milk, and it's a study found it's like three times more effective than a flu shot.
• 45:12
  I mean, it's it's crazy.
• 45:14
  Well, I I'm with Nick.
• 45:16
  Uh for me personally, and you all know me out there to know that I would not take these shots under any conditions for myself.
• 45:21
  So, Linda, you didn't ask me specifically, but I'm gonna tell you that uh if it was me, uh, and I don't care if I'm 78, 68 or 58 uh or whatever, uh, there are other ways to have a healthy immune system, and you've already proven it at your age with the fact you don't even do them, so why start now?
• 45:37
  Yeah.
• 45:38
  I mean, uh, why start now, I guess, right?
• 45:40
  I guess the way I'd say it, Pierre.
• 45:42
  But um all right.
• 45:43
  This next one is from Mel.
• 45:45
  I heard if you get the vaccine, it wipes out your antibodies, and because of that, you can't donate blood.
• 45:52
  I'm particularly interested if it's true that the vaccine does, in fact, wipe out your antibodies.
• 45:56
  You know about this, Nick.
• 45:59
  Um, well, I guess I don't fully understand the question when you say wipe out your antibodies actually elicits antibody production against the spike protein.
• 46:10
  So actually, if you get vaccinated, you'll have more uh spike protein antibodies than if you didn't.
• 46:16
  So I'm guessing, you know, maybe he he's talking about okay, wiping out um, you know, our our T cells, you know, our vital immune cells to fight infection.
• 46:28
  Yeah, it does wipe those out.
• 46:30
  Um that's a good point you bring up right there, though.
• 46:32
  That's eye-opening what you say from Mel.
• 46:34
  But then he said, and because of that, you can't donate blood.
• 46:37
  But I don't think that's true, is it?
• 46:39
  I don't think so.
• 46:39
  Yeah, no, you you can still donate blood.
• 46:41
  I mean, it's not gonna stop anything.
• 46:44
  What might happen if you were vaccinated, particularly recently, and you donate blood, you know, those vaccine materials could be in that blood, um, and thus transfer to other individuals.
• 46:56
  But uh, you know, again, there's not been much study on that at all.
• 47:00
  And so we really don't know for sure.
• 47:02
  But I would say if you were vaccinated, you know, five years ago, um, you know, at this point, uh, wouldn't I would have not much concern.
• 47:12
  Uh, but we do know the spike protein can last in the body for at least three and a half years.
• 47:18
  We documented that in the study.
• 47:20
  Um, but the thing is, is the entire population now has already been exposed to spike.
• 47:26
  Um, you can't escape it at this point, thanks to uh these dangerous gain of function activities.
• 47:34
  Yeah, no, I think people all understand uh what you say there is true.
• 47:38
  Uh I think they know that at this point here.
• 47:40
  Um this uh next one is interesting because it gets into and it's something you you've done a lot of these studies you've been involved with with these vaccines and stuff.
• 47:48
  So you have some pretty strong uh uh um knowledge, I or I would say, Nick, and uh probably uh opinions too about it, because you've seen an awful lot.
• 47:57
  This one's from Nicole.
• 47:59
  Uh, but it's interesting.
• 48:01
  She she says, I keep hearing about people vaccinating animals that we consume.
• 48:06
  Now you you've been involved in some of this stuff, I know.
• 48:09
  If they start doing that, how concerned should we be about the uh uh the mRNA getting into us through food?
• 48:16
  I would think that couldn't happen, but if they are doing this, it has to be for a reason.
• 48:19
  I was wondering if this is something you'd looked into.
• 48:21
  What do you say to that?
• 48:23
  Yeah, there's plans to you know mass vaccinate our food supply using this, but what's happened so far is pigs, pigs raised for human consumption are actively and have been since 2012 been vaccinated with RNA particle shots.
• 48:43
  So this is a gene uh-based vaccine that they inject into pigs across not only the U.S.
• 48:51
  but Canada, Mexico, some other countries.
• 48:54
  And so that's why I'm particularly concerned about pork products.
• 49:00
  Um, at least, you know, if you buy pork products, at least make sure you cook it.
• 49:00
  Um at least you know, if you buy pork products, at least make sure you cook it.
• 49:04
  You know, you don't eat raw pork.
• 49:04
  You know, you don't eat raw pork.
• 49:06
  You know, you you eat raw pork, you're gonna have you know parasites as well, all sorts of bad things.
• 49:06
  You know, you you eat raw pork, you're gonna have you know parasites as well, all sorts of bad things.
• 49:13
  But then you also could have these RNA particles.
• 49:13
  But then you also could have these RNA particles.
• 49:15
  So you have pork, make sure you cook it.
• 49:15
  So you have pork, make sure you cook it.
• 49:18
  Um, but you know, other foods vaccinated with mRNA.
• 49:18
  Um, but you know, other foods vaccinated with mRNA, there are none that I'm aware of at the moment.
• 49:22
  There are none that I'm aware of at the moment.
• 49:25
  Uh they are vaccinating dogs and cats with RNA shots, but you know, hopefully.
• 49:25
  Uh they are vaccinating dogs and cats with RNA shots, but you know, hopefully you're not eating you know your pets.
• 49:32
  Um and uh fish, farmed fish, they're getting vaccinated with like 50 different vaccines.
• 49:40
  Um they go through a vaccination machine.
• 49:44
  They actually become they sedate the fish in mass, force them through a conveyor belt and inject them with a vaccinator machine and uh release them back into the pond.
• 49:57
  Um not no that's 50 different vaccines.
• 50:01
  None of them are mRNA yet, but they're working on them.
• 50:04
  Now you're scared me with what you talk about there with the fish.
• 50:07
  You do eat fish, don't you?
• 50:08
  Oh, I love fish.
• 50:09
  But now, since I found that out that they get, you know, all sorts of vaccines.
• 50:14
  I'm gonna get wild caught fish, you know.
• 50:16
  And now there's trade-offs with each.
• 50:19
  You know, I mean, you'll have uh, you know, some heavy metals and you know, garbage, you know, from the pollution and some wild caught fish, but it's much more healthier than these farmer raised fish that eat a bunch of garbage and get knocked up with a bunch of vaccines.
• 50:36
  Oh my golly.
• 50:37
  Well, boy, you you I just lost my appetite for dinner.
• 50:40
  Uh but all right.
• 50:43
  This uh and I love this as well, by the way.
• 50:45
  But you just you know it's funny, Nick.
• 50:48
  We just don't know what we don't know.
• 50:50
  And what what you don't see, you don't know.
• 50:53
  And it's the same thing like eating at a even a nice restaurant or something.
• 50:56
  You just don't know what you don't know.
• 50:58
  Is that correct?
• 51:00
  Yeah, you don't know what you don't know.
• 51:03
  And you know, if we can't escape everything, the only way you could escape that is if you have a farm, you know, your own food supply, and you grow your own food.
• 51:14
  And you know, that's that's the only way.
• 51:17
  We're really trusting thy fellow man.
• 51:19
  I mean, when you're out of restaurants, you're doing this or that, the fish population is just say other things.
• 51:23
  We're really trusting thy fellow man, aren't we?
• 51:25
  You know, right?
• 51:26
  We are.
• 51:27
  We're very trusting, you know.
• 51:29
  You don't know exactly yeah, you don't know what's going into your food at really any restaurant.
• 51:33
  That may be the title of the show.
• 51:35
  You don't know what you don't know.
• 51:36
  I don't know.
• 51:37
  But I like it.
• 51:39
  All right.
• 51:40
  Let me get this one to Anna in here.
• 51:42
  This is interesting.
• 51:43
  She said, My son, who is uh 36, is a pharmacist who has been given the COVID shots to the public since they came out.
• 51:51
  So the pharmacist has been given the COVID shots out, Nick, okay.
• 51:55
  He has chosen not to get the shot himself.
• 51:58
  Okay.
• 51:59
  He had a heart attack a few months ago.
• 52:01
  The cardiologist who had to insert a few stents in his arteries, was very surprised that at his age he had a heart problem that hadn't been diagnosed already.
• 52:11
  Hmm.
• 52:12
  He goes to his primary doctor often due to his testosterone level being low.
• 52:16
  His blood pressure, cholesterol, and sugar levels have always been in the normal range.
• 52:20
  Is it possible, do you think, that spike protein from the shots jumped to him from administering the shots so many times?
• 52:27
  Is that possible, do you think, Nick?
• 52:29
  Well, if he was directly administering the shots and handling the vaccine vials, you know, and being exposed to them for years on end, it's for sure possible he could have been exposed to mRNA and spike protein, especially in those vaccination centers.
• 52:48
  You know, it's probably there's probably large amounts of uh uh environmental transmission of some of these materials.
• 52:56
  Um and so it's not out of the equation, but you know, you did mention he goes frequently to the doctor for low testosterone.
• 53:05
  You know, if he was taking TRT testosterone replacement therapy, you know, that could also potentially contribute to you know a heart attack as well.
• 53:15
  You know, and again, people have had heart attacks, you know, for the past, you know, uh hundreds of hundreds of years, you know, in documented time.
• 53:24
  Well, obviously thousands of years, but you know, obviously it's increased drastically even before the COVID shots rolled out, and the COVID shots accelerated it.
• 53:35
  And so, you know, we we gotta look at everything that could possibly contribute.
• 53:39
  But yeah, if he was in the vaccination center, administering vaccines daily, it's entirely plausible that it could have contributed.
• 53:48
  That's a good catch you just caught on the testosterone as well.
• 53:52
  Very good catch.
• 53:53
  And Anna, that it's it gives you another thought here.
• 53:56
  Uh you know, you were obviously very curious to send this in.
• 53:59
  So it's another great point, Nick brings up.
• 54:01
  You may want to consider or or think about.
• 54:03
  But uh, yeah, 36 years old, you don't really think about uh heart problems like that are not common place uh for sure.
• 54:11
  I just had the other day that uh test that um uh Dr.
• 54:14
  McCullough has said we all should get to the uh coronary artery calcium score.
• 54:19
  And I don't know, I'm told Dr.
• 54:21
  McCullough yet.
• 54:22
  I don't think so.
• 54:23
  We haven't talked since then.
• 54:24
  I just realized I haven't told him.
• 54:26
  I'll tell them next week what the score was.
• 54:28
  Uh and um yeah, I just had that test done and uh fascinating uh to uh get it done to get the results of where you're at.
• 54:37
  I'll give you a hint right now.
• 54:39
  I passed with flying colors.
• 54:41
  I had zeros in a lot of places, like across the board.
• 54:46
  Uh that was good, Nick, huh?
• 54:48
  Oh, yeah.
• 54:49
  Yeah.
• 54:49
  So you're you're doing good.
• 54:51
  Taking the vitamin D, you know, frequent walks.
• 54:55
  Yeah, oh yeah, five miles a day.
• 54:57
  In fact, in fact, today uh I am listen to this, Nick.
• 55:01
  I just passed the year mark.
• 55:02
  Uh, my five miles a day streak continues.
• 55:05
  I I hope you all celebrate with me here.
• 55:08
  But today, three hundred and sixty eight days straight.
• 55:15
  I just just passed the mark, just past the 365 day mark.
• 55:18
  And uh I was that day my wife came with me.
• 55:21
  She can't go all the time because of the schedule.
• 55:23
  And she came with me, and uh, and and I what when we walk together, I was hold her hand, and it's just something we do, and we're probably the only people that do that with that.
• 55:31
  We see walking in the on the sidewalks that kind of in the in the area we're in.
• 55:35
  It's very nice.
• 55:36
  And um, you know, so I do that, and and uh she um was walking with me on that day and said, I can't believe it.
• 55:43
  365 days straight, and uh here we are, and it was a great feeling.
• 55:48
  We gotta celebrate, I said, You bet.
• 55:49
  You'd uh I don't know if we opened up champagne that night or what we did, but in any event, uh we might have, I don't know.
• 55:58
  Uh but very, very interesting.
• 55:59
  All right.
• 56:00
  We are out of time.
• 56:00
  We are out of time.
• 56:02
  Uh, but uh Nick, it is uh awesome to have you here, always uh join me here.
• 56:02
  But uh Nick, it is uh awesome to have you uh here.
• 56:06
  Always uh join me here.
• 56:08
  And I'm gonna have you uh this next month somewhere.
• 56:08
  And I'm gonna have you uh this next month somewhere.
• 56:10
  You're gonna join me on uh Project Out Loud.
• 56:10
  You're gonna join me on the Project Out Loud.
• 56:12
  We'll get on video and audio and uh we'll see look what we all look like.
• 56:12
  We'll get on video and audio and uh we'll see look what we all look like.
• 56:17
  Uh right, Nick.
• 56:17
  Uh right, Nick?
• 56:18
  Awesome, yeah.
• 56:18
  Awesome, yeah.
• 56:19
  I'd love to.
• 56:19
  I'd love to.
• 56:20
  Sounds exciting.
• 56:20
  Sounds exciting.
• 56:21
  That'd be great.
• 56:21
  That'd be great.
• 56:21
  Yeah, that'd be really cool.
• 56:21
  Yeah, that'd be really cool.
• 56:22
  Well, we just did it with Dr.
• 56:22
  Well, we just did it with Dr.
• 56:23
  Kelly Victory.
• 56:23
  Kelly Victory.
• 56:24
  Look up that show.
• 56:24
  Look up that show.
• 56:25
  Let me remind you all again here and uh see what you think of it.
• 56:25
  Let me remind you all again here and uh see what you think of it.
• 56:29
  Uh she was such a
• 56:29
  Uh she was such a joy to talk to, uh really super, super lady here.
• 56:33
  So what a privilege, friends, to have you here and have Nick Holsha here, and thank you for joining us on America Out Loud Pulse.
• 56:40
  Always a beat ahead.