Latest / Becker’s Payer Issues Podcast / Dawn Maroney, Chief Executive Officer of Alignment Health Plan and President of Alignment Health
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- 0:00Evernorth brings the power of wonder and relentless
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- 0:29This is Haley Recker with the Becker's Payer
- 0:31Podcast, and we are recording live at the
- 0:33Becker's third annual spring payer issues roundtable.
- 0:36I am thrilled today to be joined by
- 0:37Don Maroney, president of Alignment Health and CEO
- 0:40of Alignment Health Plan.
- 0:42Dawn, thank you so much for joining me
- 0:44today. Can you go ahead and share a
- 0:46little bit about yourself and your background before
- 0:47we get started? Absolutely.
- 0:49Well, I've been with Alignment
- 0:51for about
- 0:53eleven years. Actually, it's eleven years going on
- 0:55in May, so very excited about that.
- 0:58Thank you.
- 0:59And,
- 1:00I have been
- 1:01representing or working with Medicare
- 1:05beneficiaries,
- 1:06seniors, individuals who are typically
- 1:0865
- 1:09and or disabled
- 1:11for about a little bit over thirty plus
- 1:13years.
- 1:14I always had the,
- 1:17dream to just work with seniors as grandparents
- 1:19because I had grandparents that died at a
- 1:21very, young age, or I was young age,
- 1:23and they died at a young age as
- 1:25well.
- 1:26And, it just was an opportunity to take
- 1:28on a job,
- 1:29over thirty years ago to just work with
- 1:31seniors, and it's been that ever since. So
- 1:34it's the only space I've been in. Well,
- 1:36that's such a great story. I love to
- 1:37hear that.
- 1:39Alright. To kick things off, I wanna talk
- 1:40about affordability
- 1:42and quality of care, which is a constant
- 1:45challenge for health plans. So how is your
- 1:47organization innovating to manage the cost of care
- 1:49while maintaining
- 1:50or improving member outcomes?
- 1:52Well, I think for affordability for all of
- 1:54us, right, has been, when it comes to
- 1:56health care, it just continues to rise. Medical
- 1:58expenses rise as well as,
- 2:00whether it's under the core
- 2:03catastrophic tech coverage or preventative coverage as well
- 2:06as a pharmacy cost.
- 2:09And our organization for quite some time,
- 2:12a lot of us started are working at
- 2:14another organization where we had to do a
- 2:16lot of
- 2:17hands on touch. And then in this digital
- 2:20age, we started in the very beginning with
- 2:23working with, our
- 2:26technology platform and how do you get to
- 2:28individuals
- 2:29sooner,
- 2:30quicker, faster, in real time from the standpoint
- 2:34of when they're taking prescriptions, how do you
- 2:36connect into data or into hospital systems,
- 2:40doctor's offices,
- 2:41and or directly with seniors? And we started,
- 2:44that
- 2:45actually literally
- 2:46when I started eleven years ago,
- 2:49and it's been growing ever since. So when
- 2:51we hear about AI today, you know, everybody
- 2:54talks about AI in different fashions. We're not
- 2:56in the robotic phase of AI for our
- 2:58company, but we do a lot of the
- 3:00machine learning as well as,
- 3:03many other aspects of AI,
- 3:05to
- 3:07prioritize
- 3:08seniors when it comes to the quality as
- 3:10well as the
- 3:12health care that's needed sooner than later.
- 3:14And we have the ability to predict things
- 3:17that may happen prior to them even knowing.
- 3:20Some cases, it's just quite as simple as
- 3:22they're taking their prescription drugs and mixing those
- 3:25drugs the wrong way or having occurrences where
- 3:28they land in an ER or in a
- 3:30hospital multiple times within a year.
- 3:33So we put clinical programs around that, and
- 3:36we've been doing that for quite some time.
- 3:37And it's been quite effective,
- 3:40from the standpoint of
- 3:41when you look at Medicare today, the average,
- 3:46admit per thousand is sitting at 220
- 3:49plus,
- 3:49and we're running about one fifty one for
- 3:52our organization. That means we're keeping seniors out
- 3:55of the hospital,
- 3:56which is probably the largest one of the
- 3:58largest areas of expense.
- 4:00There's also the preservice, but the postservice, when
- 4:02you get into a hospital,
- 4:04you're talking about hospitals in many of our
- 4:05markets that are 20,000
- 4:07plus per day.
- 4:09So how do you keep people out and
- 4:11or make sure that you're proactive in that
- 4:13approach? So it's what we push heavily on.
- 4:16Would you say that that integration of AI
- 4:18has improved member experience greatly?
- 4:21It has.
- 4:22We started it, and I call it AI
- 4:24assist because you I believe that in health
- 4:27care, it still requires a human touch, you
- 4:30know, a caring
- 4:31touch, especially with our audience.
- 4:34But it has been
- 4:36I don't think we've even seen how great
- 4:38the possibilities
- 4:39are in in this area,
- 4:42but we've been doing this for quite some
- 4:43time. And so it's helped us greatly by
- 4:45not having to have thousands of physicians to
- 4:47address the hundreds of thousands of popular seniors
- 4:50that we serve, but it,
- 4:52I think it's gonna even grow bigger. Yeah.
- 4:55I kinda wanna pivot the conversation just a
- 4:57little bit to health equity, which has become
- 4:59a critical focus for many health plans. Can
- 5:02you share an overview of a key initiative
- 5:03here that you're involved in or particularly excited
- 5:05about, and what are you hoping to achieve?
- 5:08Absolutely.
- 5:09I I think the biggest when I think
- 5:11of health equity, I think of so many
- 5:12different variations of health equity. But I look
- 5:15at
- 5:16individuals starting with income and then diversity, but
- 5:19primarily when I think of people that are
- 5:22less fortunate than,
- 5:24many individuals out there, like people that are
- 5:26the the most frail, the most I say
- 5:29poor, and I'm trying to think of another
- 5:30word, but low income beneficiaries or people that
- 5:33are sitting with Medicare and Medicaid.
- 5:35We've put that task force,
- 5:38many years ago, and it's one of the
- 5:40fastest growing populations for us. The other tie
- 5:43to that is health equity when it comes
- 5:45to people that have chronic conditions or multiple
- 5:47chronic conditions that are also frail and that
- 5:50have, need income assistance.
- 5:53And, we were probably one of the first
- 5:56with creating collaboration with different companies like Instacart
- 5:59and others, when it comes to
- 6:01giving food
- 6:02to people that, you know, instead of picking
- 6:04medications
- 6:05over food or vice versa, how do you
- 6:08get that? How do
- 6:10you give them unique benefits that help them
- 6:12with loneliness and other things
- 6:14or access to
- 6:16getting a ride, something as basic as getting
- 6:18a ride to your doctor or your pharmacy
- 6:20or even picking up, certain supplies
- 6:23and having,
- 6:25programs to outreach to individuals because they are
- 6:28living alone. And so there are things or
- 6:30questions that we do or sending clinicians to
- 6:32the home,
- 6:34to to address that. And they don't wanna
- 6:37feel like
- 6:38they're needy or being dependent on a child
- 6:41or a loved one. They're, you know so
- 6:44they will go without. And so it's like,
- 6:46how do you break that barrier?
- 6:48And it's been quite successful for us by
- 6:50addressing that in its entirety with from a
- 6:52clinical
- 6:53care as well as a service and then
- 6:55a benefit package that's designed around that,
- 6:58where we are sitting today with that audience
- 7:00with a net promoter score of 75 plus,
- 7:03which is very hard to do,
- 7:05and it's continuing to grow at a very
- 7:07fast pace for alignment. So we're super excited
- 7:09that it's working,
- 7:10but it starts with that senior, that consumer
- 7:12directly
- 7:13talking to them, finding out what are their
- 7:15needs and what are their fears about,
- 7:17you know, whether it's the government or it's
- 7:20the state or
- 7:21asking for help. It's critical.
- 7:24So it's big. Yeah. That's fascinating.
- 7:26We've, been talking about the imperative to reduce
- 7:29costs, improve quality, and advance health equity, and
- 7:32I'd like to keep going with that. So
- 7:33how do you approach aligning these priorities in
- 7:35your organization's strategic vision?
- 7:39Well, seniors in general, it's interesting because when
- 7:42you think about
- 7:44when I talk to people, and I actually
- 7:46have experienced this now that I'm say I'm
- 7:4750. Well, I'm going through my full age,
- 7:50but,
- 7:51just ageism
- 7:53and how people view seniors today and where
- 7:56they were twenty years ago. And I say
- 7:58that at every stage of life.
- 8:00When you're 30, and if you're not married
- 8:03or you don't have a child, why are
- 8:05you not married, and why don't you have
- 8:06children? It's like, well, why should I have
- 8:09to be married? Or if you're Exactly. There's
- 8:10no time left. Plus, or why don't you
- 8:12have grandchildren? Or, you know, there's just so
- 8:15many things. Or when you talk to people
- 8:16and interview them and survey them,
- 8:19their view of what somebody is at 60,
- 8:2160 five, 70
- 8:23is really interesting,
- 8:24so from that perspective. And so it's
- 8:27when you think about equity,
- 8:29even as it applies and where we kind
- 8:32of have judgment with that audience, and so
- 8:34then then tap on somebody who's got Medicare
- 8:37and Medicaid,
- 8:39why should they be treated any different? Because
- 8:41of their income level? Or if you start
- 8:43to put because of the color of my
- 8:45skin
- 8:46or because you there's so many different things.
- 8:49And so from the company perspective, we do
- 8:52senior sensitivity trainings.
- 8:54We you know, when we're interviewing, we want
- 8:57a heart of caring.
- 8:58So they have to have that passion to
- 9:00wanna work with this audience and not want
- 9:03to just
- 9:04do this because of a job. And it
- 9:06is hard to find talent that's out there,
- 9:08and so,
- 9:10we have a a phenomenal culture of caring
- 9:13within our organization. And as we're growing, because
- 9:15we are getting bigger and we're growing fast,
- 9:18we work really hard. How do you keep
- 9:20that culture of caring as we're growing? And
- 9:23that is something that we need to continue
- 9:25to pay attention,
- 9:26because at the end of the day,
- 9:28the number one person in our company is
- 9:31that senior, and how do we make sure
- 9:33that we're doing
- 9:34doing right by doing good. Yeah. Thank you
- 9:36so much for for, providing that perspective.
- 9:39Before we wrap up here, do you have
- 9:41any final thoughts you'd like to share with
- 9:43our listeners today?
- 9:44Well,
- 9:45first of all, thank you for listening.
- 9:47Secondly,
- 9:48you know, just when you see that
- 9:51individual that is older out there or if
- 9:54they they're walking in the door and they're
- 9:57whether they're
- 9:58frail or not frail, just have think about,
- 10:01like, their life and how far they've become
- 10:03and
- 10:04just make that extra step and helping them
- 10:06out. Open the door, something as simple, or
- 10:08help them out on lifting something for them.
- 10:10Just be there,
- 10:12as an audience to take care of this
- 10:14consumer, and, you know, they've been leading the
- 10:17pack, and now we've gotta follow with the
- 10:19next generation of just doing, you know, doing
- 10:21right by doing good. Yeah. I love that.
- 10:23I think we can all take that home
- 10:24with us today. Well, thank you so much
- 10:26for joining me today. Again, this is Haley
- 10:28Rucker with the Becker's Payer Podcast
- 10:30recorded live at the Becker's third annual spring
- 10:33pair issues roundtable.
- 10:34Dawn, thank you so much. You're welcome.