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Anastasia with Anna Seregina · The Bechdel Cast

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Speaker 1: Hi everyone, Caitlin here. I just wanted to give you
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Speaker 1: a quick intro to the episode you're about to hear
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Speaker 1: on the movie Anastasia. We recorded it live as Jamie's
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Speaker 1: Birthday Show, which we had so much fun doing. And
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Speaker 1: while the audio quality for the most part is pretty good,
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Speaker 1: there are a few times when the audio kind of
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Speaker 1: blips out for a split second, and we apologize for that,
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Speaker 1: But otherwise it's a damn fine episode and we hope
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Speaker 1: you enjoy cast questions, ask movies have women? And are
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Speaker 1: all their discussions boyfriends and husbands? Do they have individualism?
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Speaker 1: The patriarchy? Zeph start changing it with the beck del care.
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Welcome to the bec deel Cat Welcome.
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Speaker 1: I just context for everyone. I just got a six
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Speaker 1: pack of Mike's hard watermelon. Thank you. That's just proof
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Speaker 1: that when you get a d M saying are you
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Speaker 1: allergic to watermelon? You answer it as quickly as you
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Speaker 1: can because you never know. Oh man, what a gift.
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Speaker 1: This has got to be real bad, right this is
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Speaker 1: I'll be I'll be sampling it throughout the night. Welcome everyone,
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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming to be here for for Jamie's
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Speaker 1: Birthday show. It feels like we're and we're caught and
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Speaker 1: we're recording it. It's not my birthday for a month,
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Speaker 1: but for the sake of tonight, we're cosplaying as if
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Speaker 1: it is my birthday, and the episode will be released
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Speaker 1: pretty close to your birthday. Yeah, so suspend your disbelief,
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Speaker 1: don't cancel me. It's not necessarily my actual birthday, but
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Speaker 1: feel free to give me gifts. I think is the
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Speaker 1: real takeaway. So we're doing one of my one of
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Speaker 1: my favor movies tonight. I'm so excited, Anastasia. Oh but
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Speaker 1: let's get some business out of the way first. My
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Speaker 1: name is Caitlin. My name is Jamie. We talked about
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Speaker 1: the representation of women in movies on this here podcast
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Speaker 1: at the end there. Oh we Well, we use the
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Speaker 1: Bechdel test as a jumping off point for discussion. What's
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Speaker 1: the Bechtel test? Uh? What if I was like, I
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Speaker 1: don't know, I can answer a question. The Bechdel test
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Speaker 1: is a media metric designed by cartoonist Alison Bechdel uh
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Speaker 1: sometimes called the Bechtel Wallace test, in which there must
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Speaker 1: be an interaction between two named female identifying characters and
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Speaker 1: they have to talk to each other for two lines
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Speaker 1: of dialogue about something other than a man. I wish
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Speaker 1: there was like a mathematical equation for like what we
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Speaker 1: just said, because it sounds like math. Right, It's like
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Speaker 1: a square plus B squared equals C squared. That's theorem. Hello,
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Speaker 1: so it's not. She's a master's degree, so keep up.
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Speaker 1: Let's let's demonstrate it. Okay, Hey Jamie Caitlin, I got
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Speaker 1: you a birthday gift too. Really, here it comes. I
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Speaker 1: don't know I didn't wrap it. Oh my god. Wait,
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Speaker 1: this is so cut. Describe it for our listeners at home.
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Speaker 1: This isn't what if I was like, I love it,
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Speaker 1: thank you. It is an enamel pin of rose from Titanic. There,
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Speaker 1: thank you so much, thank you. It's the moment where
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Speaker 1: she looks up and she sees Titanic for the first
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Speaker 1: time and she's not that impressed, and she's like, it
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Speaker 1: doesn't look any bigger than the Martinia, and then cal ak.
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Speaker 1: Billy Zane is like, oh si, it's long. It doesn't
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Speaker 1: because you said cal but oh, I guess we finished
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Speaker 1: a while ago. There. I'm sorry. I just's okay, sorry.
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Speaker 1: I can't look at this without thinking of Billy Zane
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Speaker 1: and that is tragically my feminism. Another surprise, so much,
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Speaker 1: is that I got one for my stuff. Oh, I'm
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Speaker 1: so happy that I'm gonna I'm gonna fasten it on
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Speaker 1: right now onto my little suit. Sodaying. I'm wearing a
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Speaker 1: little suit. Thank you. This is welcome, truly, I can't.
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Speaker 1: I won't leave home without it ever again. Um, that
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Speaker 1: was all our business, right, I believe, so business? What
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Speaker 1: the show is business? Oh, clap if you have been
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Speaker 1: to one of our live shows before, and then clap
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Speaker 1: if your if your friend dragged you here, Yes, very
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Speaker 1: brave of you, and all right, by round of applause.
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Speaker 1: Who has seen the movie Anastasia? Okay, good? Is there
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Speaker 1: anyone who has not seen it? Clap your little paws together.
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Speaker 1: It's they just apologize. It's okay, listen. I what I
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Speaker 1: think that women should be doing more is apologizing. And
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Speaker 1: so I really welcome that in the room. Uh yeah, yeah, No,
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Speaker 1: it's okay, it's okay. I've written a recap, as I
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Speaker 1: always do. It's I think the longest recap I've ever written.
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Speaker 1: I don't know why. It's not a movie. It's not
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Speaker 1: a long movie, but the story is so rich and
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Speaker 1: also I mean it's I would say it's more or
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Speaker 1: less historically accurate. Yeah, if you're familiar with the you
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Speaker 1: know Russian history, you know this story inside and out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: To join us in our discussion, We of course have
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Speaker 1: a guest. She is a wonderful person. She is a
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Speaker 1: hilarious comedian. Please give it up for an Oh my god, wow,
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Speaker 1: I mean to grab a. Mike said literally grab mis
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Speaker 1: feeling crazy. Thank you for being here, Thank you so
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Speaker 1: much for having me. Of course, So Anna, what is
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Speaker 1: your history relationship with the movie Anastasia or Anastasia as
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Speaker 1: a historical figure. Wow, it dates back to yesterday when
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Speaker 1: we watched it together, and so in that it is
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Speaker 1: rich and uh luscious and historically bound and I feel
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Speaker 1: very rooted in it. Also, um, and I'm Russian and
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Speaker 1: my name is Anna, and really it's Anya. So people
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Speaker 1: when I moved here, people were like, oh, like the
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Speaker 1: like Anastasia, you know, just like that, and so I'd say, well, yes,
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Speaker 1: so that for a long time I just didn't watch it.
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Speaker 1: I think that of that, I was like, I'm different
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Speaker 1: times of protest. There's that movie called Caitlin that I
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Speaker 1: refused to watch. Yeah, there's there's a Jamie in a
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Speaker 1: Walk to Remember, but she dies? Is she the She's
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Speaker 1: the one? She's Mandy Moore and she and she she
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Speaker 1: dies to teach Shane West a lesson, which is a
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Speaker 1: plot device that I love. I love, I think you
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Speaker 1: should do. I can't wait to die one day as
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Speaker 1: to some guy can learn something, yeah, just to make
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Speaker 1: him a little nicer in college. My history with this
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Speaker 1: movie is that I saw it once. It came out
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Speaker 1: in nine seven, so I would have been eleven. I
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Speaker 1: must have seen it when I was eleven, and then never.
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Speaker 1: The only thing I remembered was that there was a train.
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Speaker 1: I didn't remember what happened with the train. I just
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Speaker 1: knew there was a train. That's the only thing I remembered,
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Speaker 1: because I only thought that once, and then I have
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Speaker 1: rewatched it three times now in the past few days.
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Speaker 1: I know it's fun. This was one of my favorite movies.
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Speaker 1: The movie came out when I think I was like
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Speaker 1: four or five, and I was like the Target demo
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Speaker 1: because it was really loud, like there was a lot
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Speaker 1: of music, and I was like really scared of rasputing.
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Speaker 1: But I kind of also had a crush on him,
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Speaker 1: of course you really like. I love the rasputing character.
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Speaker 1: And I remember telling my mom. I was just like,
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Speaker 1: why are there toys of him? And she was like,
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Speaker 1: I don't know, and but there's I would say some
8:38
Speaker 1: of the maybe this is I just got nervous for
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Speaker 1: some of the sexiest cartoons. Uh. And because this isn't
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Speaker 1: a Disney cartoon, if that matters to you, it really
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Speaker 1: doesn't matter. But it's it's not a Disney cartoon, so
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Speaker 1: it is a little bit hornier than you're and a
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Speaker 1: little better, I think than like your average cartoons. So man,
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Speaker 1: I love I saw it on ice. Ah, it was
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Speaker 1: Anastasia Ice. It was it was telling you night was
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Speaker 1: the first time I noticed a butt. I was like
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Speaker 1: that was like maybe a few years after that when
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Speaker 1: Annastasia was making the rounds on ice this time but
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Speaker 1: Dmitri's but oh good, alright, but there was Me and
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Speaker 1: my brother still talk about it sometimes. How at that
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Speaker 1: ice show Resbuten was on ice and his beard kept
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Speaker 1: flying into his mouth and he was having a really
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Speaker 1: difficult time. I love I mean, I love this. I
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Speaker 1: probably watched this movie like it's like a go to
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Speaker 1: a movie for when I'm like sick. I'll watch it,
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Speaker 1: and so I watch it. You know, I'm very sick
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Speaker 1: all the time. Great shall we shall we dive in
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Speaker 1: with the recap. Let's dive in Caitlin. Alrighty, So the
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Speaker 1: year is nineteen sixteen. Titanic has been sunk for four years.
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Speaker 1: Nicholas is the are of Imperial Russia. There's this royal family,
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Speaker 1: the Romanoffs. They are celebrating. So far this is accurate,
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Speaker 1: except for I think the year is even right, it's
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Speaker 1: already two years off here. But there is the romanof family, uh,
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Speaker 1: and they are the royal family, and they're celebrating three
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Speaker 1: years of ruling the country. And Anastasia is I think
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Speaker 1: the youngest daughter. She's this the young princess duchess, and
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Speaker 1: her grandmother gives her a music box and a necklace
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Speaker 1: that says together in Paris. And there's the next there's
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Speaker 1: I mean, there is the most annoying thing in the world,
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Speaker 1: poking historical and accuracies. But I will be doing it
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Speaker 1: all night. She went to Denmark, she didn't go to Paris.
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Speaker 1: But no one wants to sing a Bernadette Peters didn't
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Speaker 1: want to sing a song about Denmark. So Paris. Uh
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Speaker 1: So before they can go to Paris together, Rasputin shows up.
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Speaker 1: He's like he's built. It's kind of like he's like
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Speaker 1: as skinny as Jafar, that's like already dead. Like it's yes,
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Speaker 1: he is, like, yeah, he's posted. Yeah, it's hot. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: factually and historically historically hot. I was there, yeah yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: we'll be looking over for confirmation from anything you want.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely was there the whole time, right he was yes, Okay, okay,
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Speaker 1: he was hot. So Rasputant places a curse on the
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Speaker 1: Romanov family. He's holding a grudge. He wants them to die.
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Speaker 1: He's mean, and he has he sold his devil to
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Speaker 1: to the Green thing. Yeah, he sold his soul and
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Speaker 1: he places his curse, and I guess that's what starts
11:55
Speaker 1: the Russian Revolution. According to this movie, he also bit
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Speaker 1: someone's ankle. Yes, yes, a huge power amazing there. I
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Speaker 1: mean really, it's so weird. There's been so much written
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Speaker 1: about World War One and the Russian Revolution, and it's
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Speaker 1: like it really was quite simple. What happened. Ya respue
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Speaker 1: threatened the czar and he put a curse on and
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Speaker 1: I mean we're starting a war of course, so chaos
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Speaker 1: and sues. Anastasia and her grandmother managed to escape with
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Speaker 1: the help of a servant boy, but she drops her
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Speaker 1: music box that was given to her. The music box,
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Speaker 1: by the way, like it's so I don't know if
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Speaker 1: anyone who was watching it like got really distracted by
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Speaker 1: the fact that the music box is clearly c g I.
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Speaker 1: But the rest is too d where you're just like,
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Speaker 1: what planet is? What plane does this music box on?
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Speaker 1: It looks so freaky, like the whole why did they
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Speaker 1: do that? So okay, the like flying horse at the
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Speaker 1: end is also c g I. Oh my god, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: there's like some e g I that works, Like the
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Speaker 1: and the train scene. I'm like, god, this is like
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Speaker 1: kind of effective. And like in the ballroom scene where
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Speaker 1: all the ghosts are dancing, you're like, this is fun.
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Speaker 1: But the fleshy horse I did not like fleshy horse.
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Speaker 1: So then Resputin drowns as he's trying to like grab
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Speaker 1: at Anastasia. And then Anastasia and her grandmother are headed
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Speaker 1: to safety, but in all of the chaos they get
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Speaker 1: separated forever or not, maybe we'll see. And then Anastasia
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Speaker 1: bumps her little head and right she's like, I forget. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: she forgot it gives her amnesia for a very long time.
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Speaker 1: So it's ten years later. Now we're in St. Petersburg,
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Speaker 1: we're under Joseph Stalin is in power now effect that
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Speaker 1: is not not mentioned at all, and at this point
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Speaker 1: he's hot and that's actually the trail. Yeah, yeah, okay,
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Speaker 1: we tell we take your word from please. Yeah there,
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Speaker 1: I mean he did the facial hair. You know, it's
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Speaker 1: under discussions under so rumors are being spread around that Anastasia,
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Speaker 1: who was thought to have died in Rasputants revolution, uh
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Speaker 1: that he got ankled by it alone, but he that
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Speaker 1: Anastasia might actually still be alive, which she is. She
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Speaker 1: goes by Anya now, but she has no memory of
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Speaker 1: her former royal life and she has no idea that
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Speaker 1: she is Anastasia. The only clue that she has is
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Speaker 1: the necklace that she was given that says together in Paris.
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Speaker 1: So she decides to go to St. Petersburg and tries
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Speaker 1: to buy a ticket to Paris to discover her family history,
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Speaker 1: but she doesn't have the proper documentation. So someone tells
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Speaker 1: her to go find this guy Dmitri to help her out.
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Speaker 1: John Cusack, John Cusack This is one of the like
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Speaker 1: sexier cartoons in that I think cartoon history, because he's
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Speaker 1: got he looks like John Cusack at that exact moment,
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Speaker 1: like he's got the middle part and he keeps flopping
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Speaker 1: his bangs. I'm like, are you fucking kidding me? Like
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Speaker 1: that's sickos grous. So we learned that Dmitri is a
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Speaker 1: con man and he is in the process of auditioning
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Speaker 1: actors who look like Anastasia to pretend to be her
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Speaker 1: so that they can take her to Paris and get
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Speaker 1: the reward that the dowager Empress is offering. And he
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Speaker 1: also is in cahust with Kelsey Grammar. Yes, yes, his
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Speaker 1: name is vlad sure. Um. My favorite part of the
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Speaker 1: movie has went later on the Grandmother's like, Dmitri, I've
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Speaker 1: heard of you, as if Dmitri wasn't one of the
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Speaker 1: most common Russian names, just like someone walking and being like, ah, yes, this, Joey,
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Speaker 1: I've so Dmitri has Anastasia's music box and we're like,
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Speaker 1: how do you get that? But this gives him a
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Speaker 1: leg up on bringing an Anastasia like person to the Empress.
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Speaker 1: So then Anya shows up to where Dmitri Is and
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Speaker 1: he's like, hey, you look just like Anastasia. We think
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Speaker 1: you might be her. She's like, I don't know, maybe
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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. This whole scene happens
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Speaker 1: while she's standing next to an oil painting of Anastasia herself,
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Speaker 1: and she's like, could be a cart But then she
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Speaker 1: decides to go to Paris with them, rationalizing that like, hey,
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Speaker 1: maybe I am Anastasia and maybe I'm not, but there's
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Speaker 1: only one way to find out. Well, and also they
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Speaker 1: were able to like get her the documents she needed.
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Speaker 1: It seemed like if she didn't play ball with this
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Speaker 1: plan she had would get into the parent right. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 1: Raspute and remember him? Ever heard of him? He is
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Speaker 1: still alive sort of yeah. He a lot of like
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Speaker 1: cartoony body horror, very graphics stuff. Well, the rest prude
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Speaker 1: and stuff is like this movie has like some like
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Speaker 1: tonal dissonance issues where they'll be like the serious scary
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Speaker 1: happened to Anastasia and then you'll like cut to rest
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Speaker 1: Spute and being like my plan didn't work, and then
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Speaker 1: he'll rip his face off and like throw it on
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Speaker 1: the ground. Very spooky. Verry tom Waite's sort of bones dancing.
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Speaker 1: It's great. And his side like kept trying to call
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Speaker 1: it a side piece, but sidekick, you know, he's got
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Speaker 1: this classic side piece. It's it's a nude bats. Yeah,
17:54
Speaker 1: it's and I know all bats are nude, but like
17:57
Speaker 1: this one's I mean, well, it's an albino bat. It's
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Speaker 1: got a little bit of a luscious, small, lushious body
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Speaker 1: that's also hot. I love my curby bat voiced by
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Speaker 1: Hankazaria with an accent that is to me problematic. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what he's trying to do, but it's
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Speaker 1: not right. Whatever. And we'll talk about the accents in
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Speaker 1: this movie too, because we were checking. We were checking
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Speaker 1: with Anna last night for they checked any sort of
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Speaker 1: realism to it, and it looks like no. To be determined, Okay, teaser.
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Speaker 1: So Rasputin is stuck in this like hell limbo place
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Speaker 1: because Anastasia survived and he has a horcrux. He's basically Baltimore. Yeah,
18:52
Speaker 1: and he's also sort of living in the same place
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Speaker 1: Scarf from The Lion King lives in. It's just kind
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Speaker 1: of like a rock den and it's there's green fog,
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Speaker 1: but instead of Hyena's there's bugs, yes, um. And then
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Speaker 1: he has the bat friend bar Talk, who helps He
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Speaker 1: helps recput and get out of limbo so that Resput
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Speaker 1: and can kill Anastasia, and they sing a terrific song
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Speaker 1: about it. Really good. It rocks. It does, so Dmitri
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Speaker 1: and Anastasia and then Vlad also Kelsey Grammar are on
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Speaker 1: their way to Paris, and Dmitri and Anya are attracted
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Speaker 1: to each other. And then yeah, they're doing a little
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Speaker 1: bit of light n egging. I could call it heavy
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Speaker 1: little there was. It's so weird, Like I didn't realize
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Speaker 1: that until this watch, but like Meg Ryan voices Anastasia
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Speaker 1: and they're just doing a scene from most Meg Ryan
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Speaker 1: movies where she's being nagged, but she's like stop, that's
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Speaker 1: just kind of what's happening. So then rest mutants, little
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Speaker 1: ghost minions caused the train that they're on to crash,
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Speaker 1: but they survive and they continue onward to Paris, and
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Speaker 1: then Lad and Dmitri teach Anya how to be fancy
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Speaker 1: so that she can alien scene in the middle of
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Speaker 1: the movie yeah uh. And then she and Dmitri almost
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Speaker 1: kiss on a ship that sort of looks like Titanic,
20:27
Speaker 1: and Anastasia's wearing the dress that Ariel wears in The
20:32
Speaker 1: Little Mermaid, right, um, and also kind of looks like
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Speaker 1: the dress that the little girls in the Shining weear.
20:38
Speaker 1: Oh well, there's another Shining reference when she gets trapped
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Speaker 1: in a maze later on. Oh yeah, so who knows
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Speaker 1: what's going on? So they almost kissed, but then Dmitri
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Speaker 1: was like, no, I shouldn't, and then rest mutants minions
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Speaker 1: try to kill Anastasia again on the ship. Remember when
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Speaker 1: minions were just little evil things that helped respute and
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Speaker 1: not and not cut things with glasses and keute pies
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Speaker 1: that I love. Then Dmitri saves her from and so
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Speaker 1: she doesn't die, and then they finally get to Paris.
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Speaker 1: The plan is to see Sophie the empassis first cousin,
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Speaker 1: to convince her that Anastasia is in fact Anastasia, or
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Speaker 1: rather Anya is Anastasia, and Sophie and Flat a k A. H.
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Speaker 1: Kelsey Grammar are for sure fucking which doesn't isn't really
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Speaker 1: relevant to the plot, but he foreshadows really heavily for
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Speaker 1: some reason, like he keeps bring him like Sophie. Yeah,
21:43
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, she's a cream puff and I want
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Speaker 1: to fuck her, like, I don't know why it's so
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Speaker 1: important to the plot of this movie that you know
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Speaker 1: that Kelsey Grammer's character is like, for sure, fucking this
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Speaker 1: French lady, but it's really important. It's important for it.
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Speaker 1: It comes up a lot. Yes, So then Anya answers
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Speaker 1: all of Sophie's questions correctly, including one about how she
22:11
Speaker 1: escaped the palace, saying that there was a boy who
22:14
Speaker 1: helped her escape by opening up this wall because I
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Speaker 1: guess her memories coming back. And then Dmitri is like, oh, fuck,
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Speaker 1: that actually is Anastasia because he was the boy who
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Speaker 1: helped Oh hope, I hope you're not going to make
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Speaker 1: fun of that, because that's really nice. No. I think
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Speaker 1: it's like a really effective use of plant and payoff.
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Speaker 1: I have a master's degree in screenwriting from Boston. Take
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Speaker 1: Caitlin's course. I don't like to break it up, Okay,
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Speaker 1: So but right then, the Empress decides not to see
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Speaker 1: any more women claiming to be Anastasia because it keeps
22:54
Speaker 1: letting her down in her keeps breaking her heart. So
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Speaker 1: they decide to stalk the Empress at the ballet instead,
23:02
Speaker 1: and then Dmitri goes up to her, and he's like,
23:04
Speaker 1: you gotta see her. She's the real deal, and the
23:07
Speaker 1: Empress is like no, and then Anastasia overhears the Empress
23:11
Speaker 1: saying that she knows about Dmitri's reputation somehow. Again she's like, Dmitri,
23:16
Speaker 1: I've heard of you, that he's a con man who
23:19
Speaker 1: was holding auditions for Anastasia lookalikes. So Anastasia hears all
23:23
Speaker 1: this and she's like, Demitri, you freaking asks you used
23:28
Speaker 1: me what a good slack? I forgot that she slack?
23:33
Speaker 1: I always I always get something like oh, like it's
23:38
Speaker 1: very exciting, it's very gratifying. And he doesn't even go
23:41
Speaker 1: like that sucked. He's just like, I'm sorry, you have
23:45
Speaker 1: to know the truth. Yes, It's like whoa, that's love it.
23:49
Speaker 1: So she runs away and then take each other around
23:54
Speaker 1: um to set things right, Dmitri kidnaps the Empress and
24:01
Speaker 1: takes her to Anastasia uh, and then the Empress doesn't
24:05
Speaker 1: believe that she is Anastasia at first, but then Anastasia
24:09
Speaker 1: is like, you smell like peppermint, and she's like it
24:11
Speaker 1: is you. Yeah, And then finally grandmother and granddaughter are
24:18
Speaker 1: reunited and Dmitri doesn't even want the money because he's
24:22
Speaker 1: a good guy. He's different now, and he leaves because
24:30
Speaker 1: he's in love with Anastasia. I just handle it. The
24:34
Speaker 1: scene where the grandma's like, did you have a change
24:37
Speaker 1: of mind? And then he goes more like a change
24:40
Speaker 1: of heart in your life. That's that's powerful. I don't care.
24:46
Speaker 1: I'm tearing up. I'm just like people can change. And
24:51
Speaker 1: then she's like, well, if you don't want the money,
24:53
Speaker 1: what do you want And he's like, nothing you can
24:55
Speaker 1: give me, which is code for like, he wants to
24:57
Speaker 1: put his pep into Anastasia v v. Caitlin. That's a vulgar. Yeah,
25:06
Speaker 1: he wants her very heteronormative. But it's fine. That's fine
25:11
Speaker 1: for him. Change changed. So at the celebratory ball, Resputin
25:18
Speaker 1: shows up. He traps Anastasia in the maze from the
25:22
Speaker 1: shining and he tries to kill her, but then Dmitri
25:26
Speaker 1: shows back up and helps her defeat Respute, and he
25:29
Speaker 1: punches Resputin in the face. Yeah, and then gets attacked
25:32
Speaker 1: by that creepy horse, and then they defeat Resputing and
25:38
Speaker 1: then they share and we'll talk all about it's so exciting,
25:44
Speaker 1: And then they share a kiss and then they elope
25:48
Speaker 1: right away, right away. I honestly kind of respect that.
25:51
Speaker 1: You don't see the wedding. You just see a letter
25:54
Speaker 1: saying like, yeah, we will be back in a couple
25:57
Speaker 1: of weeks. That's it. What if they went back to
26:01
Speaker 1: Russia and got killed by Stalin? I'm sorry the real
26:08
Speaker 1: estate should died in anyway find from this documentary that's
26:16
Speaker 1: not true. Okay, So then that's the end of the movie.
26:20
Speaker 1: Well you've forgotten bar Talk. Bar Talk finds a pink
26:25
Speaker 1: bat and what a what a horrible thing to like
26:30
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, the movie ended. I'm actually not too
26:33
Speaker 1: upset about how it ended, for for a movie of
26:36
Speaker 1: this type. And then all of a sudden they're like,
26:38
Speaker 1: Mrs Bat is here like assault the Hank Zario bet
26:46
Speaker 1: but he's into it the end. All right, that's that's
26:52
Speaker 1: the end of the movie. Right where do we want
27:00
Speaker 1: to start? I wanted to start by Okay, so part
27:05
Speaker 1: of the crew. Okay. This movie was well received when
27:08
Speaker 1: it came out, an instant classic, I am uh and
27:13
Speaker 1: but but in retrospect, it is considered one of the
27:18
Speaker 1: most the movies with the most celebrity voice miscastings in
27:22
Speaker 1: any animated movie ever. So I just wanted to just
27:28
Speaker 1: just a yes or no quick opinion on like do
27:32
Speaker 1: you think, because like after Aladdin, and like after Robin Williams,
27:36
Speaker 1: like this is literally a Lindsay Ellis video that came
27:39
Speaker 1: out a couple of months ago, Robin Williams like gets
27:41
Speaker 1: the whole celebrity voice thing kind of takes off. Now
27:45
Speaker 1: all voice actors are unemployed. Suck it. Uh, And now
27:50
Speaker 1: it's celebs only and this, like everyone in this movie
27:53
Speaker 1: is a celebrity, even parts that don't matter. It's weird.
27:56
Speaker 1: So just quick yes or no? Do you think? As
28:00
Speaker 1: Anastasia Meg Ryan, what do you think? Yes or no? Yes?
28:04
Speaker 1: Fine with me? I think yes? Okay, cool, Okay, we agree, Okay,
28:07
Speaker 1: I'm doing easy ones at the top. John Cusack as Dmitri.
28:13
Speaker 1: It worked, I'm sorry, ya absolutely, Okay, maybe this game
28:19
Speaker 1: isn't fun? All right? Up next, we got Angela Lansbury
28:26
Speaker 1: as the Empress. Well, the accent she's attempting is perhaps not.
28:32
Speaker 1: I'm a no on this. She's Mrs Potts and nothing else. Yeah, yeah, no,
28:37
Speaker 1: I mean yes to the general. Yes, I was. Here's
28:41
Speaker 1: my note for her. A bit much, okay, honey, quick
28:45
Speaker 1: note we actually dial it back. This movie isn't about you.
28:51
Speaker 1: Um okay, Kelsey Grammar as breast Putin or no, wait,
28:55
Speaker 1: Kesey Grammar is glad please, Kelsey Remer is flad again?
29:02
Speaker 1: Really weird accent choices that's a no for me. Bad
29:06
Speaker 1: accent hard, Yes, okay. I would have loved him as
29:10
Speaker 1: Recipe and actually yeah yeah, um as that guy um
29:15
Speaker 1: you know who cares fine? Okay, okay, because he's like
29:19
Speaker 1: a little sneaky and has wild facial hair and I'm
29:23
Speaker 1: sure sure he's His character is confusing to me for
29:28
Speaker 1: a number of reasons, mainly because he's like, I'm a
29:30
Speaker 1: con man, and then it's a twist later that he
29:32
Speaker 1: used to work for the tsar, but then it's like,
29:37
Speaker 1: well that's not good. And then at the end he
29:39
Speaker 1: kind of just gets his job back even though there's
29:43
Speaker 1: not a tzar like. It's confusing. Christopher Lloyd as Rescipues
29:48
Speaker 1: Hard Yes, okay, I think, yes, I think Alfred Milena
29:52
Speaker 1: could have done better. Uh. And I think that the
29:57
Speaker 1: accent sounds crazy. I don't I don't even know what
30:00
Speaker 1: a good Russian accent really sounds like, but it sounds crazy.
30:04
Speaker 1: The accent leaves much to be desired. Um, however, it's fine. Also, okay,
30:13
Speaker 1: hankers Area as the bat. No, I'm gonna know, I'm
30:19
Speaker 1: now on the bat. It's going to be in firm No, okay,
30:23
Speaker 1: that was That was the people I wanted to because
30:25
Speaker 1: his accent sounds like when Russian people try to sound
30:30
Speaker 1: American as a joke to point out how stupid Americans sound,
30:35
Speaker 1: so like what we would do accents. It would be like, yeah,
30:37
Speaker 1: take the baby roll and why not here we go
30:43
Speaker 1: to the store of all It's it's like, it's like
30:48
Speaker 1: so wild, It's just so weird. It's i mean, really
30:58
Speaker 1: like Russian accents for all walks of life in this movie,
31:02
Speaker 1: some people not doing one at all. Right, perhaps the
31:05
Speaker 1: best Russian accent is the one you don't do. That's
31:08
Speaker 1: really jazz. Wow. I hope that Meg Ryan tried to
31:14
Speaker 1: do a Russian accent in a few takes and they
31:17
Speaker 1: were like, just she's too good at being quirky. It's
31:21
Speaker 1: like yeah. And then also, like, I mean, hankers Area
31:26
Speaker 1: well known for being really respectful when he's doing voice works.
31:30
Speaker 1: Just kidding. There's a whole documentary about it sure is. Yeah,
31:36
Speaker 1: so yeah, that's who we're working with. There's also additional voices,
31:40
Speaker 1: and also Kirsten Duns is Little Anastasia, Lacey Shabet is
31:45
Speaker 1: Little Singing Anastasia, and J. K. Simmons is credited as
31:49
Speaker 1: additional voices. I was Yeah. When I was rewatching it today,
31:55
Speaker 1: I'm like, where is Yeah? Where is it? I couldn't
31:57
Speaker 1: find him. He's that good. He's that good. He disappears
32:01
Speaker 1: into the role. You can't. But he's credited in that
32:04
Speaker 1: movie as he's just maybe maybe he plays Comrade Fleming cough,
32:12
Speaker 1: which is the orphanage lady. I don't know, probably not hot.
32:17
Speaker 1: Thank you. So we've got the cast. Should we talk
32:22
Speaker 1: about Anastasia the character? Yeah, let's do it. Okay. So
32:28
Speaker 1: my kind of objective take since I didn't really grow
32:31
Speaker 1: up with this movie, and I feel like it's hard
32:34
Speaker 1: not to compare this to Disney movies. They're stealing everything.
32:42
Speaker 1: So just to kind of compare Anastasia as a character
32:46
Speaker 1: to the like Disney Renaissance princesses of this time, I
32:51
Speaker 1: would say overall, Anastasia is just better characterized. She has
32:55
Speaker 1: more personality than a lot of them. We know things
32:58
Speaker 1: about her like she's offinite. She tends to like push
33:02
Speaker 1: back on anyone, like you know, giving her attitude different things.
33:07
Speaker 1: She says to Dmitri, stop bosting me around, um, don't
33:12
Speaker 1: talk anymore, it's only going to upset me. Uh. And
33:17
Speaker 1: then she accidentally punches Demitri in the face like as
33:20
Speaker 1: she's waking up, and then she's like, oh, sorry, I
33:22
Speaker 1: thought you were someone else. And then she sees it's him.
33:24
Speaker 1: She's like, oh, wait, it's you. That's okay. Then and
33:29
Speaker 1: then he's like, oh, you broke my nose. And then
33:33
Speaker 1: like kind of to herself, she's like men her babies,
33:37
Speaker 1: So you know, she's feisty, she's fun. She like actually
33:43
Speaker 1: tells jokes. She starts like her her actual like journey
33:48
Speaker 1: starts because she like decides to, like she leaves the orphanage.
33:51
Speaker 1: She knows where she's going. She's sort of like playing
33:54
Speaker 1: along with Dmitri and Vlad's planned because she needs to
33:57
Speaker 1: get out of the country. So it's not like she's
34:00
Speaker 1: not she's not completely convinced that she's Anastatia just because
34:03
Speaker 1: I'm like, just because John Cusack was like you probably are,
34:07
Speaker 1: She's like, well, either way, I gotta get out of
34:09
Speaker 1: the country. So and then she uh. This was like
34:13
Speaker 1: because I wasn't quite sure because I only watched this
34:16
Speaker 1: movie when I'm sick, so I rarely see the end
34:19
Speaker 1: of it. Um, so I I forgot like how involved
34:23
Speaker 1: he is in like the final like big battle with
34:25
Speaker 1: Resciput and and I was like a little worried because
34:28
Speaker 1: the way that Seaton plays out is that resputed and
34:31
Speaker 1: you know, he's he like throws her to the ground
34:34
Speaker 1: and then Dmitri shows up punches Rescipue in the face,
34:37
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, I hope that this isn't like
34:39
Speaker 1: one of those battles where she's rescued and she's just
34:42
Speaker 1: sort of over there the whole time. But and she's
34:45
Speaker 1: over there for a little bit, but he does kind
34:48
Speaker 1: of have to like pull her up. It seems like
34:49
Speaker 1: she's going to be damseled. But then but then he
34:53
Speaker 1: kind of fails to say for a couple of times
34:56
Speaker 1: he rescputed and is really kicking him around, and he's
34:59
Speaker 1: thrown own to like the side and like passed out.
35:02
Speaker 1: And it kind of reminded me of what happens to
35:04
Speaker 1: Jasmine and Aladdin. Right, he's literally tossed out of the
35:07
Speaker 1: scene and you're like, all that never happens to the
35:09
Speaker 1: guy in and then Anastasia gets his and this is
35:12
Speaker 1: the big vocabulary word of this movie, reliquary there. I
35:17
Speaker 1: had the novelization of this, and I just remember my
35:21
Speaker 1: dad really struggling with that word. He's like all the
35:26
Speaker 1: minions and reciput and is one. Then really didn't care
35:33
Speaker 1: for that. But she stomps on the reliquary three times
35:38
Speaker 1: and she kills Resput, and yes, it's exciting. She's like,
35:41
Speaker 1: this is for Dmitri, this is for my family, and
35:44
Speaker 1: I said for you, and then she crushes it and
35:46
Speaker 1: he dies, so yeah, I wasn't. He also turns into
35:49
Speaker 1: goop and then dust. It's a very and there's like
35:53
Speaker 1: so many things that I like about this that, like
35:55
Speaker 1: Disney movies never quite go there, Like they the villain
35:58
Speaker 1: always like falls off a off and just like slowly disappears,
36:01
Speaker 1: but they're like no, no, no, you're seeing his violent graphic.
36:05
Speaker 1: When you die, you turn into goop and then dust.
36:08
Speaker 1: But there's like he's a skeleton at some point in
36:11
Speaker 1: between that. It's it's wild. Yeah, he pulls his head off,
36:15
Speaker 1: he rips his face off. He's a goof. But I
36:20
Speaker 1: did love that, you know, it seems like she might
36:23
Speaker 1: be damse old, and that's what happens in all these
36:26
Speaker 1: Disney movies. But then yeah, the the tides shift and
36:29
Speaker 1: she's the one unlike so Jasmine, she's like cast aside
36:34
Speaker 1: for the climax of the story. But she's also not
36:36
Speaker 1: the protagonist of that movie aladdins. But even in like
36:40
Speaker 1: Bell and Bootying The Beast and Aerial and The Little Mermaid,
36:44
Speaker 1: they're the protagonists of those movies, and they still aren't
36:47
Speaker 1: even allowed to participate in the climax of their own
36:50
Speaker 1: story because it's their male love interests who come and
36:53
Speaker 1: save the day. So I loved that Anastasia is the
36:56
Speaker 1: one who takes the reins and act really actively defeats
37:01
Speaker 1: the villain herself. And it just and it works better
37:04
Speaker 1: for this story too, because it's like there's that whole
37:06
Speaker 1: like the only reason she knows him is because he
37:08
Speaker 1: killed her entire family, right, so if someone else kills him,
37:12
Speaker 1: it's like, I mean, I'm glad he's dead, I guess, right,
37:15
Speaker 1: But like she's the one who would want the revenge
37:18
Speaker 1: against him. So the fact that she gets the big Cathartic.
37:21
Speaker 1: It's an awesome scene. It's the coolest. So there's that.
37:25
Speaker 1: There there are a few moments where like she helps Dmitri,
37:30
Speaker 1: like on the train scene, like she's an active participant.
37:34
Speaker 1: He's still kind of like taking the lead after the
37:37
Speaker 1: train starts crashing, like he's kind of doing most of
37:39
Speaker 1: the stuff, and then she helps. I do think that
37:43
Speaker 1: like that. It feels mostly like a lot of times
37:46
Speaker 1: he'll try to do something and then it will fail,
37:49
Speaker 1: and then she'll just do it like the correct way.
37:53
Speaker 1: Like that happens a couple of different times. I don't
37:55
Speaker 1: even know how intentional that was in the writing, but
37:58
Speaker 1: it's like kind of fun to see like this, like guy,
38:01
Speaker 1: this like macho character over and never be like I've
38:03
Speaker 1: got this, and then there's like an explosion in front
38:06
Speaker 1: of him. He's like then and then anaesthesia kind of
38:09
Speaker 1: takes Russian woman to come in and our work is
38:14
Speaker 1: never done. Me. Another thing that this movie doesn't do
38:19
Speaker 1: that a lot of Disney movies from this time definitely do,
38:23
Speaker 1: is like really over sexualized. It's female character, its main
38:28
Speaker 1: character for most of the movie, Anastasia is in like
38:31
Speaker 1: this giant coat and then like, you know, she's got
38:35
Speaker 1: the hat and the scarf. Still somehow she's like, look,
38:38
Speaker 1: it's a good look. It's a very med Bryan look.
38:41
Speaker 1: Actually it's very like chunky bangs and like a floppy hat,
38:46
Speaker 1: like a clumsy jacket for her to be like just right,
38:52
Speaker 1: I would say that, yeah, we see like more of
38:55
Speaker 1: Dmitri's body than we do have hers for most of them,
38:59
Speaker 1: and that's fine with me, no credit, but like resput
39:03
Speaker 1: And and Anastasia are wearing the same outfit from most
39:06
Speaker 1: of them, just like a belted sad you know, communism,
39:10
Speaker 1: you know why. But then she does get a makeover,
39:19
Speaker 1: and there is a shopping montage because say it with me, now,
39:23
Speaker 1: women be shopping this movie is there's a whole shopping song.
39:30
Speaker 1: They brought in Bernadette Peters to sing the shopping in
39:33
Speaker 1: France song. And yeah, it's so weird because it's like
39:37
Speaker 1: this movie doesn't like get too into like the Pygmalion
39:40
Speaker 1: and like My Fair Lady references, but there's a solid
39:43
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes where that's all it is. And so it's
39:47
Speaker 1: all like random con artists giving women makeovers for sinister purposes.
39:53
Speaker 1: I guess at least It's not to make her more
39:55
Speaker 1: attractive to the man, it's to make her be able
39:59
Speaker 1: to asked as royalty. Yeah. I mean this is like
40:06
Speaker 1: one of still one of those movies. I hate to
40:09
Speaker 1: admit it, but it is one of those like nineties
40:12
Speaker 1: Arrow movies that the central plot is a woman being
40:16
Speaker 1: deceived and eventually fucking him. Anyways, Okay, So, because I
40:22
Speaker 1: didn't remember this movie at all except for the train,
40:25
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I see them. They're negging each
40:30
Speaker 1: other there. Jamie is opening her Mikes hard watermelon. I
40:38
Speaker 1: smell it from over here. I always worried about they're
40:43
Speaker 1: twisted up. Mike's is never trying to challenge. You know,
40:49
Speaker 1: it's a hard lemonade, but it's not that hard. So anyway,
40:55
Speaker 1: they meet each other, you can tell is it horrible?
41:00
Speaker 1: And her had the flavor before? This is how is
41:04
Speaker 1: it is? It's salty? Salty taste? Salty taste it? Yeah, okay,
41:12
Speaker 1: it's overwhelming. Oh it has a really bad after taste.
41:17
Speaker 1: May I taste it? Go for it? Salty bad after
41:22
Speaker 1: I gotta know mm hmm salty. Oh I will finish
41:30
Speaker 1: it bead after taste. Yeah. Story anyway, Okay, So the
41:40
Speaker 1: two characters come face to face for the first time,
41:42
Speaker 1: Anastasia and Dmitri, and you can tell that they're gonna
41:47
Speaker 1: be foisted together into a romantic entanglement. Um even though
41:52
Speaker 1: he's an asshole. She knows that he's an asshole. We
41:55
Speaker 1: know he's an asshole as the audience. He's nagging her,
41:57
Speaker 1: he's treating like ship most of the time, and he's
41:59
Speaker 1: also lying to her for a good chunk of the movie. Yes,
42:03
Speaker 1: as I'm seeing all this unfold, I said, I bet
42:05
Speaker 1: myself ten dollars that they kiss at the end, and
42:08
Speaker 1: I won ten dollars. They kiss at the end. They
42:14
Speaker 1: do kiss, but it's a hot kiss. So there's that.
42:20
Speaker 1: Not to be a dimitri apologist, but there is a
42:25
Speaker 1: lot of Okay, so what is like different about this movie?
42:30
Speaker 1: I mean, what isn't different about this thing? But the
42:32
Speaker 1: way the relationship is between the prince's character and like
42:35
Speaker 1: the the guy pursuing her as it's literally a Meg
42:38
Speaker 1: Ryan movie, which is why all those weird nineties tropes
42:42
Speaker 1: of like being deceived, where normally it's like the princess
42:45
Speaker 1: is inactive, the prince has no personality, and somehow there's
42:48
Speaker 1: a beginning, middle, and end regardless. But they treat each
42:52
Speaker 1: other like rom com characters, and they're like bickering and
42:54
Speaker 1: flirting and dancing and almost kissing but then not kissing,
42:58
Speaker 1: like it's it's like a night these romcom movie. And
43:01
Speaker 1: then I do think that he maybe not to the
43:05
Speaker 1: degree he should, but he does change and he's wrong,
43:10
Speaker 1: express remorse and then gives her space until she decides
43:15
Speaker 1: she wants him back. So it's maybe that's poor judgment
43:21
Speaker 1: on on her part, but at least she decided it
43:25
Speaker 1: because it was like, you know, when he kidnaps the
43:27
Speaker 1: old lady, You're like, I don't know, you know, he's
43:32
Speaker 1: maybe he's lawless, and maybe I shouldn't be rooting for him,
43:36
Speaker 1: but he doesn't kidnap her in that way. He's an ally.
43:43
Speaker 1: There's a there's a moment where Lad says to him,
43:47
Speaker 1: um about Anastasia, Oh, she certainly has a mind of
43:50
Speaker 1: her own, and then Demitri responds by saying, yeah, I
43:54
Speaker 1: hate that in a woman. So but then Anastasia goes
43:59
Speaker 1: she sure does, and she sure does on the train,
44:03
Speaker 1: and I love that for her. For her, she always
44:06
Speaker 1: does have like a really good retort. So that's not
44:09
Speaker 1: an example of one, I don't know for yourself. And
44:12
Speaker 1: that scene pays off Kelsey Grabber taking out this notebook
44:16
Speaker 1: he has where he's keeping score Anya and Dmitri and
44:23
Speaker 1: the raspberry does count as a point for it really does.
44:27
Speaker 1: Actually it says so much by doing so little. We're like, okay, well,
44:31
Speaker 1: I guess she is in the lead. She's in the lead.
44:34
Speaker 1: So this is a feminist text. Yes, we read a
44:43
Speaker 1: fun fact. Although the credibility of this website was wildly tested,
44:49
Speaker 1: it was written by a guy named Nat, and that's
44:51
Speaker 1: pretty much all we know about. Even offer up his
44:54
Speaker 1: last no, no credentials, just Nat. You know, you know
44:57
Speaker 1: how that is, and you know how he gets one
45:00
Speaker 1: of the facts. It was like ten facts about right now.
45:03
Speaker 1: You know. One of them was just wrong. One of
45:06
Speaker 1: them was like it came out the same week as
45:09
Speaker 1: a Little Mermaid, and you were like, that was ten
45:11
Speaker 1: years before that. Okay, so I read something that that
45:14
Speaker 1: person might have meant. So Disney re released The Little
45:19
Speaker 1: Mermaid I think like a week before Anastasia came out,
45:22
Speaker 1: and then they released a bunch of other stuff the
45:24
Speaker 1: week after in a clear attempt to like to bury Anastasia.
45:30
Speaker 1: So Nat had a point. Yes, okay, I guess what
45:34
Speaker 1: what what was? What's what does he saying? Oh? Well, Nat,
45:36
Speaker 1: Nat said this wonderful thing. This, this is a classic Nat.
45:41
Speaker 1: He said that Megrian was really trepidacious about doing it,
45:44
Speaker 1: and she did not want to do it because it
45:46
Speaker 1: was like right after Sleepless in Seattle, and she was like,
45:51
Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to do cartoons. And
45:53
Speaker 1: then the animators convinced her, or the director convinced her
45:57
Speaker 1: by animating a scene from sleep Listency Dolt. It was
46:01
Speaker 1: just like, look, it can exist as an animation and
46:04
Speaker 1: still hold it's merit. And then she got to really
46:08
Speaker 1: bring her own acting into the piece, and so you
46:12
Speaker 1: see a classic migrant trope being acted out. That's why
46:15
Speaker 1: it's so real. And I'm pretty sure that's actually true
46:19
Speaker 1: that they did do that, even though the credibility of
46:22
Speaker 1: the website that was right in ninety seven is a
46:26
Speaker 1: good year for this movie to come out, because I
46:28
Speaker 1: think that Disney animated movie that year was like Hercules
46:31
Speaker 1: or like something that I don't think did well at first.
46:35
Speaker 1: I do love those stories where it's so fucked up,
46:38
Speaker 1: but whenever Disney tries to just absolutely murder something in
46:42
Speaker 1: a really obvious way, and then we're still like, but
46:44
Speaker 1: it's fine because my childhood, Like you're like, it's not good,
46:49
Speaker 1: it's scary. Yeah. I just still don't like what they
46:52
Speaker 1: did to Andy Serkus is Jungle Book movie. I guess
46:56
Speaker 1: that's just what I'm saying. They killed Circus with that one.
47:00
Speaker 1: Sarcas should be a billionaire. I just sorry, I'm sorry,
47:04
Speaker 1: I had two SIPs of a hard just going off.
47:09
Speaker 1: I'm acting speaking of things that I found about the
47:13
Speaker 1: movie Anastasia that come from my website that is perhaps
47:17
Speaker 1: not the most credible. So I don't know how much
47:19
Speaker 1: validity there is to this different, different way. But Bernardette Peters,
47:28
Speaker 1: who voices the character of Sophie the emphasis cousin, cousin, yes, um,
47:38
Speaker 1: Bernardette Peters reportedly said that she did not like the
47:42
Speaker 1: way her character Sophie was designed because Sophie is plus
47:47
Speaker 1: size and she did not apparently want to be represented
47:51
Speaker 1: as someone who was plus sized, to which I respond,
47:55
Speaker 1: who even knows that Bernardette Peters looks like he shot
48:00
Speaker 1: up picture her? Like, No, one's like that doesn't look
48:04
Speaker 1: like Bernadette Peters no one knows what that. What I
48:07
Speaker 1: love about animation is that they look exactly like the
48:10
Speaker 1: person who's voicing them, Like Kelsey Grammer looks exactly just
48:16
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like looking at the mirror. Right. The
48:19
Speaker 1: only example is that Dmitri looks exactly like John Kia
48:22
Speaker 1: say yeah, And everyone else looks like guess what a cartoon,
48:26
Speaker 1: except for Hankazaria, who looks just like the Bad. He
48:29
Speaker 1: does look like the Bad. It's true, a luscious, luscious
48:33
Speaker 1: little body, but that brings me I just want to
48:38
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about the way plus sized people
48:41
Speaker 1: are presented in this movie. Because Vlad is a big guy,
48:46
Speaker 1: he is shown as being like extremely ungraceful most of
48:50
Speaker 1: the time. He falls over on the train and like
48:52
Speaker 1: that's why he can't help Dmitri, and that's why I
48:55
Speaker 1: like Anastasia has to step up and help Demitri with
48:59
Speaker 1: the train to Bockle, and then later on there on
49:02
Speaker 1: the ship and he like takes the top bunk of
49:04
Speaker 1: the bunk beds and it like stinks down so low
49:08
Speaker 1: that it like crushes the dog so basically, like his
49:11
Speaker 1: weight and his body is like played as a joke.
49:14
Speaker 1: Several times. I feel like the same thing happens for
49:17
Speaker 1: Um Sophie's character. It's just not good in a movie
49:21
Speaker 1: that like doesn't seem to like punch down at anyone
49:25
Speaker 1: else really, But yeah, and I think that that is
49:28
Speaker 1: like such an older animation trope to that it would
49:32
Speaker 1: just be like crazy to not do um and they
49:37
Speaker 1: for some reason like choose to like play too, because
49:40
Speaker 1: there's a million old cartoons where that happens repeatedly and
49:44
Speaker 1: it's not necessary and it's not funny, and it's Yeah,
49:48
Speaker 1: it does feel like weirdly out of place in this movie.
49:52
Speaker 1: Can I talk about the Titanic parallels? Yes, I have
49:56
Speaker 1: the same list, I think, all right here mine and
49:59
Speaker 1: let's compare notes a poor guy trying to make money
50:04
Speaker 1: in Paris and a woman with red hair coming from
50:09
Speaker 1: a rich family and the two of them fall in love.
50:13
Speaker 1: The shot on the staircase, the full body shot of
50:16
Speaker 1: the dolled up female protagonist on an elegant staircase. That
50:21
Speaker 1: was on my list. Okay, I don't have that one.
50:24
Speaker 1: The man saving the woman from going overboard on a
50:27
Speaker 1: ship a necklace being a pretty big plot point. What
50:35
Speaker 1: about the poor guy being dragged out of the room
50:38
Speaker 1: being like you don't understand. Oh yeah, that's one. The
50:43
Speaker 1: woman has a music box the end. They came out
50:50
Speaker 1: the same year. Could it be a coincidence? Who copying? Who? Uh?
50:54
Speaker 1: There was also there, Like, so this movie was made
50:57
Speaker 1: by Fox Animation. From what you were telling me, this
51:01
Speaker 1: is not an animation company that lasts very long. They
51:03
Speaker 1: make this movie, it's very successful. They make one every
51:05
Speaker 1: other movie. It's dogshit the end. That's the whole history.
51:10
Speaker 1: And they're kind of doing I almost thought this was
51:12
Speaker 1: a DreamWorks thing, but I don't think, like I think
51:15
Speaker 1: this pre dates DreamWorks. But they're doing the DreamWorks thing
51:19
Speaker 1: where they're just kind of stealing from Disney movies and
51:21
Speaker 1: being like people will think this is a Disney movie.
51:25
Speaker 1: And there's so many and that's I think part of
51:27
Speaker 1: like why this movie is so good because they steal
51:29
Speaker 1: a lot of really good parts from Disney movies that
51:32
Speaker 1: came out very recently. Where like the rumor in St.
51:36
Speaker 1: Petersburg number, which historic, I mean if you look, so
51:40
Speaker 1: this takes place in Stalin is in power and this
51:44
Speaker 1: is a musical number where the people under Communist Russia
51:48
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah there's food rations, Yeah, life is really difficult. Yeah,
51:53
Speaker 1: we're all suffering. And then the last line before you
51:56
Speaker 1: get into the chorus is like, but we love rumors
52:00
Speaker 1: and gossip anyways, and then they start to dance about
52:07
Speaker 1: rumors and it's so that's true. Yeah, that's actually true. Yeah,
52:14
Speaker 1: there's like, yeah, it's really tough about here. Thank God
52:16
Speaker 1: for these rumors. What I'm lacking in food, I'm just
52:20
Speaker 1: making up for a rumor. It's delicious, your fool. But
52:27
Speaker 1: that number looks a lot like the first number and
52:30
Speaker 1: Beauty and the Beast where it's also like the peasants
52:33
Speaker 1: of this community being like we're the goofs because poor people. Uh,
52:41
Speaker 1: what else we've got, like the like female protagonists singing
52:44
Speaker 1: her mission. I mean, Anastasia all but sings. I want
52:47
Speaker 1: much more than this provincial Yeah, except she actually has
52:52
Speaker 1: like motivation. Right, Well, that's the other thing I wanted
52:55
Speaker 1: to talk about, Like like in Station Versus a Disney movie,
52:58
Speaker 1: is that like and the does happen to some extent
53:01
Speaker 1: in Anastasia, but like in like Little Mermaid where she's like,
53:05
Speaker 1: oh she loves people culture. Uh, she wants to go
53:09
Speaker 1: up where the people are. And then in Bell's case,
53:12
Speaker 1: people culture in Bell's case, she uh wants much more
53:16
Speaker 1: than this provincial life. She wants to go on an
53:18
Speaker 1: adventure in the great wide somewhere. But in both movies
53:22
Speaker 1: they don't really get farther than like the hands of
53:25
Speaker 1: the arms of a man. Uh and Bell literally goes
53:29
Speaker 1: I would say, less than three miles yeah, and has
53:35
Speaker 1: no idea there's a castle. But the story then becomes
53:40
Speaker 1: about like her involvement with the male love interest, whereas
53:44
Speaker 1: I mean in Anastasia, yes she does elope with a
53:47
Speaker 1: man at the end, but the story is more about
53:51
Speaker 1: like her journey to figure out herself and her family
53:55
Speaker 1: history and her back story, rather than like, there is
53:59
Speaker 1: the subplot of the Roman, but it's not what takes
54:01
Speaker 1: over the whole story. So yeah, like it another one
54:08
Speaker 1: of the big I think we already sort of said this,
54:10
Speaker 1: but in the dark of the night is is like
54:13
Speaker 1: the same exact number as be Prepared from Lion King
54:16
Speaker 1: to the point where it is sung by the same man.
54:21
Speaker 1: I know you guys, okay, uh does Jeremy irons not
54:27
Speaker 1: saying be prepared? He sings about two thirds of it,
54:30
Speaker 1: and then he was getting a little pitchy dog on
54:33
Speaker 1: some of them and so they bring in Jim Cummings,
54:37
Speaker 1: who does all who sings entire in the dark of
54:40
Speaker 1: the night. But but it's like, not only is it
54:42
Speaker 1: super visually similar similar where they're in a cave and
54:44
Speaker 1: there's green fog and there's singing animals who are standing
54:48
Speaker 1: for nazis there, Uh, but it's also literally the same
54:54
Speaker 1: guy singing it. It's such a blatant rip off that
54:56
Speaker 1: I do respect it. Um. Yeah, So they just like
55:02
Speaker 1: stole a bunch of like some of the best scenes
55:04
Speaker 1: from Disney movies and just sort of retrofitted it to
55:07
Speaker 1: fit this historically accurate movie. Yes, can I give a
55:11
Speaker 1: brief rundown of the historical accuracy please, because it is
55:16
Speaker 1: I mean, it is like wild that this story was
55:19
Speaker 1: chosen to be adapted. And I guess that there is
55:22
Speaker 1: like early drafts of this script that were more closer
55:25
Speaker 1: to the real story, which when you know the real story,
55:27
Speaker 1: seems impossible in Children Nation because what actually happened. So
55:33
Speaker 1: in in I R. L. Resputen was not an enemy
55:38
Speaker 1: of the romanofs. He was a close friend of the
55:41
Speaker 1: Czarina slash fucking her. We don't know, um, but he
55:45
Speaker 1: claimed he claimed to like have magical powers. He somehow
55:49
Speaker 1: cured the youngest romanovs hemophilia with either magic or basic medicine,
55:54
Speaker 1: we don't know. Uh. Either way, he gets a lot
55:57
Speaker 1: of influence in the court. The Czarina really likes him.
56:00
Speaker 1: He's a friend of the family. And he dies two
56:02
Speaker 1: full years before the Romanos are killed, so that has
56:06
Speaker 1: nothing to do with anything. The romanofs are all for
56:10
Speaker 1: sure killed. They were all shot in a basement by
56:14
Speaker 1: the Bolshevik government during the Russian Revolution. But like the
56:19
Speaker 1: Resputen and the Romanos were like never on bad terms.
56:22
Speaker 1: All the Roman kids died. The grandma was out of town,
56:26
Speaker 1: but she was in Denmark, which is too boring for
56:28
Speaker 1: the movie. Um, the grandma never looked for her family.
56:33
Speaker 1: She was she took it. She was like, I guess
56:34
Speaker 1: they're dead, and she was right. They were all dead.
56:38
Speaker 1: There were some rumors that Anastasia lived and it's funny
56:42
Speaker 1: why this is horrible, but like the rumors were that
56:45
Speaker 1: Anastasia had maybe lived because she was wearing so many
56:49
Speaker 1: diamonds that they deflected the bullets, and so she lived
56:55
Speaker 1: and she was around, and there was one very successful
57:00
Speaker 1: Anastasia impersonator which it looks like most of this movie
57:03
Speaker 1: is is modeled on if it were true, which it wasn't.
57:08
Speaker 1: But there was this girl named Anna Anderson who was
57:11
Speaker 1: like poor and looked similar, and they were like the
57:14
Speaker 1: reason they gave their like, well, she suffered a lot
57:16
Speaker 1: of depressions, so it's probably her and and she like
57:22
Speaker 1: wrote memoirs as if it were true. There was some
57:25
Speaker 1: hot guy involved in the con and so that is
57:30
Speaker 1: that's unfortunately. And also they you know, they erased all
57:34
Speaker 1: the all the messy, oppressive Stalin stuff. Yes, it's so
57:40
Speaker 1: weird that they chose to make this a movie. That's
57:42
Speaker 1: kind of the one thing that I would say most
57:45
Speaker 1: differentiates it from other Disney movies at this time is
57:48
Speaker 1: that it's taking history and then really taking a lot
57:53
Speaker 1: of liberties with it. But it is but most of
57:59
Speaker 1: Disney movies were based from like fairy tales and and
58:04
Speaker 1: you know, mythology and stuff like that, and this is
58:06
Speaker 1: in Anastasia is taking you know, historically inaccurate events and
58:11
Speaker 1: then making those into a movie. But it is based
58:13
Speaker 1: in at least real life figures, which is irresponsible to
58:19
Speaker 1: so wildly misrepresent what actually happened and then have that
58:23
Speaker 1: be a children's movie, because you know how many children
58:25
Speaker 1: will watch the movie version of something rather than like
58:28
Speaker 1: reading the real thing at all of us. I thought
58:32
Speaker 1: this was the only thing I knew about Russian culture
58:37
Speaker 1: for the first like sixteen years of my life, and
58:42
Speaker 1: it was like one of those things where I sort
58:44
Speaker 1: of took it at phase value until forced to say
58:46
Speaker 1: it allowed I was like, yeah, well he was a wizard,
58:54
Speaker 1: but he failed, but then he died, but then he
58:56
Speaker 1: came back. So I don't think that's the best choice
59:01
Speaker 1: that a movie has ever made, but I would say
59:04
Speaker 1: overall it handles a lot of things better than a
59:06
Speaker 1: lot of Disney movies of its time. Yeah, I think
59:10
Speaker 1: we're just looking at the way like it is if
59:13
Speaker 1: this is like this company's take on what is clear,
59:16
Speaker 1: like trying to take a little bit of whatever the
59:19
Speaker 1: princess market is at this time, Like they do a
59:22
Speaker 1: better job and they steal a lot of what Disney
59:25
Speaker 1: was doing better than them, which I guess respect I
59:29
Speaker 1: don't know this movie rules. I don't know. I can't.
59:32
Speaker 1: No one's going to talk me into disliking it. So
59:35
Speaker 1: there's four credited writers on this movie, two of whom
59:38
Speaker 1: are women, which you have to think has to do
59:41
Speaker 1: with because most Princess movies were not written by women,
59:44
Speaker 1: and I don't think it really shows it all. No,
59:48
Speaker 1: there's one one screenwriter, Nanni White, who also wrote newsies Tarzan,
59:54
Speaker 1: Hunchback in Notre Da, and Two Dalmatians and worked on
59:59
Speaker 1: The Lion King. Then there's another screenwriter, Susan Gothier. I
1:00:02
Speaker 1: couldn't find her CRIDs. And then also Carrie Fisher did
1:00:06
Speaker 1: rewrites on this movie. Yeah, because she was a prolific
1:00:10
Speaker 1: script doctor, yeah for many years, and she would help
1:00:14
Speaker 1: punch up a bunch of scripts. She was supposed to
1:00:17
Speaker 1: have been the person who added in the what did
1:00:20
Speaker 1: you say the name of the lady who ran the orphanage?
1:00:22
Speaker 1: So that would be um, comrade Fleming cough. That's so,
1:00:27
Speaker 1: I yeah, canonically as a Carrie Fisher. It's also spelled
1:00:33
Speaker 1: like because I watch everything with subtitles on and the
1:00:36
Speaker 1: subtitles spell Fleming cough p h L E g M
1:00:41
Speaker 1: the way that flem is spelled. And she's like characterized
1:00:46
Speaker 1: as like this old bag and it's like, oh, girls,
1:00:50
Speaker 1: a woman over thirty five. I think that that is
1:00:56
Speaker 1: probably true. And also but like over thirty five and
1:01:00
Speaker 1: poor Nor because you see Angela Lansbury is kind of
1:01:06
Speaker 1: like she's hot because she's right, which you know canon, um, yeah,
1:01:16
Speaker 1: did you have anything else? The only other thing I
1:01:18
Speaker 1: wanted to mention was rest Sputan talks about at least
1:01:23
Speaker 1: three times in the movie how much he loves cologne.
1:01:27
Speaker 1: Did anyone else pick up on this? It's in his song.
1:01:30
Speaker 1: He mentions it later before he's about to go try
1:01:34
Speaker 1: to kill Anastasia himself in the flesh, and then I
1:01:38
Speaker 1: think there's another scene where you see him like sprit
1:01:40
Speaker 1: sing it on. So he is obsessed with cologne. Rewatch
1:01:44
Speaker 1: Anastasia Beyond Cologne. Watch. I just wanted to point that out.
1:01:49
Speaker 1: I wonder if that is like a fact about I,
1:01:51
Speaker 1: as someone who who has several biography as of resput
1:01:55
Speaker 1: And in her home, I've never encountered that before. My
1:02:01
Speaker 1: favorite respute, in fact, if you want to check it
1:02:03
Speaker 1: out on and on your own, is you should look
1:02:06
Speaker 1: up Resputen. He has three kids on the books, but
1:02:11
Speaker 1: there there were some some side kids. I'm sure that
1:02:18
Speaker 1: that his bat was, but he had three kids, and
1:02:25
Speaker 1: the one who didn't get killed later his name Maria Resputen,
1:02:30
Speaker 1: and she went on to be a lion tamer and
1:02:34
Speaker 1: burlesque performer, and then she moved to l A. So honestly,
1:02:39
Speaker 1: live your best when your dad is a cartoon villain,
1:02:45
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Become a lion tamer and
1:02:49
Speaker 1: moved to l A and burlesque performer. Yeah, yeah, and
1:02:53
Speaker 1: a and a major resput and did nothing wrong at
1:02:59
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I've seen the movie. Yea, I know
1:03:02
Speaker 1: what he did. Anyone have any other final thoughts? Literally?
1:03:08
Speaker 1: All right, does Anastasia pass the Bechtel test? Yes? It
1:03:13
Speaker 1: does does right away? Between young Anastasia and her grandmama. Um,
1:03:20
Speaker 1: it does pass between Anastasia and Comrade Fleming cough believe
1:03:26
Speaker 1: it or not. And then I think also between Anastasia
1:03:29
Speaker 1: and Sophie. Um, did you get about the circumstances of
1:03:34
Speaker 1: her entire family's death? Right? Yeah? There was also a
1:03:37
Speaker 1: pass between Grandmamma and Sophie right, um. But other than that,
1:03:42
Speaker 1: I think that that Yeah, that's all I had. Unfortunately,
1:03:45
Speaker 1: Misses the bat didn't didn't get any character. Why isn't
1:03:53
Speaker 1: she name? Where is her arc? There is a directed
1:03:58
Speaker 1: video about Bartalk magnificent. Yeah, it's all right, I won't
1:04:11
Speaker 1: spoil anything. It's quite bad, but it is like I
1:04:15
Speaker 1: think Hanks Area is one of those people who is
1:04:18
Speaker 1: kind of down for whatever. He was fully back. He
1:04:23
Speaker 1: didn't call in a backup. He's like, I'm available, bar
1:04:26
Speaker 1: talk the magnificent. I'm in. Oh good grief. All right,
1:04:33
Speaker 1: So let's write the nipple of the movie on our
1:04:35
Speaker 1: nipple scale. Rate the nipple on our movie scale. How
1:04:40
Speaker 1: many movies would you give this? So our nipple scale
1:04:47
Speaker 1: is zero to five nipples based on its representation of
1:04:51
Speaker 1: women and all things considered, I'd give it like a
1:04:55
Speaker 1: two and a half or three. Were you expecting lower? Yes, okay,
1:05:03
Speaker 1: I'm exciting for your birthday. I'll bump it up to
1:05:06
Speaker 1: a three. Yes, okay, yeah, I think again. If if
1:05:10
Speaker 1: you're comparing it to other like animated children's media of
1:05:14
Speaker 1: this time, especially like a princess narrative, I think it
1:05:18
Speaker 1: does handle a lot of things way better by comparison. Uh,
1:05:23
Speaker 1: it's still, you know, wedging in a romantic relationship where
1:05:27
Speaker 1: there doesn't need to be one. I would say it's
1:05:30
Speaker 1: you know, but his haircut, did you see him? But
1:05:37
Speaker 1: that's another Titanic the haircut. Oh that's true. Oh I
1:05:44
Speaker 1: had one. I did have one. More Titanic parallel on
1:05:51
Speaker 1: my list is men doubting a woman's identity because that
1:05:56
Speaker 1: happens at the beginning with Old Rose. They don't believe
1:05:59
Speaker 1: that she is who she says she is, and they're
1:06:01
Speaker 1: also not sure if Anastasia is Anastasia. So the movies
1:06:06
Speaker 1: are basically the same. And may I just say that
1:06:10
Speaker 1: one of the songs in Anastasia was nominated for an
1:06:14
Speaker 1: Academy Award but lost to my Heart will go on
1:06:20
Speaker 1: our Queen. Also, it's where it's worth mentioning if you
1:06:24
Speaker 1: if you like to go to places like YouTube dot
1:06:26
Speaker 1: com like myself, there is like a making of featurette
1:06:30
Speaker 1: about Anastasia that's hosted by Aliyah. Uh may she rest
1:06:35
Speaker 1: in peace because she if you listen to the song
1:06:38
Speaker 1: at the end of Anna stage to the credit song,
1:06:40
Speaker 1: it's sung by Aaliyah. She did a song for this movie,
1:06:43
Speaker 1: and she does that whole like how they used to
1:06:45
Speaker 1: do this weird wonderful world of Disney, but not of like, Hi,
1:06:49
Speaker 1: I'm this person, you know, let's see this movie and
1:06:53
Speaker 1: like she's she hosts it, so she's just stag chair
1:06:57
Speaker 1: turnaround or no no, she's standing in front of the
1:07:00
Speaker 1: Eiffel Tower looking deeply uncomfortable. All right, She's like, as
1:07:04
Speaker 1: we all know, Anastasia comes as soon. Let's learn more beautiful.
1:07:11
Speaker 1: It's good. The Alia song is good. You should on
1:07:13
Speaker 1: the soundtrack. It's snow in the dark of the night.
1:07:17
Speaker 1: I don't know that's disrespectful. Um, so yeah, I'll stay
1:07:23
Speaker 1: with three and a half. Sorry, three nipples? God, oh
1:07:26
Speaker 1: my god, yes, three because it does handle a lot
1:07:32
Speaker 1: of things well in terms of like the princess character, um,
1:07:36
Speaker 1: giving her more development, more personality, more agency, more motivation
1:07:42
Speaker 1: than a lot of other comparable movies of its time.
1:07:47
Speaker 1: But it's still has some things about it, as we've
1:07:51
Speaker 1: discussed that bump it down to a three, not a
1:07:55
Speaker 1: three and a half. So that's so sorry. I know
1:07:59
Speaker 1: it's your birthday. It's not, but it's over a month
1:08:06
Speaker 1: away your birthday. But no, um. Yeah, So it's three nipples,
1:08:11
Speaker 1: and I will give one to a historically accurate representation
1:08:16
Speaker 1: of Anastasia, so not this movie, but the dead one.
1:08:19
Speaker 1: So the dead one. Okay, I will just gave one
1:08:24
Speaker 1: of your nipples to a dead eight year old. That
1:08:27
Speaker 1: go off. I guess I'll give one to um, but
1:08:35
Speaker 1: think of having a panic at that. I'll give one
1:08:39
Speaker 1: to the dog whose name I forget, and I'll give
1:08:42
Speaker 1: my phone apple to Mrs pink Bat. So I'm gonna
1:08:49
Speaker 1: go three and a half, I think, I mean, I
1:08:52
Speaker 1: think that in a lot of and you're saying that
1:08:55
Speaker 1: this last night, we're like Disney acquired Fox and you said,
1:09:00
Speaker 1: a lot of mouth breathers are trying to figure out
1:09:02
Speaker 1: if she's a Disney Princess now where there's a whole
1:09:06
Speaker 1: just community out there that's been like finally our princess
1:09:11
Speaker 1: has been crowned, finding out that they're crawling out. I mean,
1:09:17
Speaker 1: like at last she's doing Disney, so which is like
1:09:26
Speaker 1: the weirdest like late capitalism, like take to have of
1:09:31
Speaker 1: like this is actually a good thing, like as unstaged
1:09:36
Speaker 1: as Disney Princess. But there I mean for the like
1:09:39
Speaker 1: you were saying, like for the fact that this is
1:09:41
Speaker 1: a separate animation company trying to do the same format
1:09:44
Speaker 1: and then they do it better, they give their character
1:09:46
Speaker 1: more agency. She's funny, she's cool, she's calling the shots
1:09:51
Speaker 1: in the relationship for the most part, except for, of course,
1:09:53
Speaker 1: the large deception, uh right. Other than that it's all
1:09:58
Speaker 1: her go. I love her. Resiputing is is an icon
1:10:03
Speaker 1: of any sort, really, you name it, He's an icon.
1:10:07
Speaker 1: I I like the Bat. I I feel like I
1:10:13
Speaker 1: was kind of dead a little hard in the bat
1:10:15
Speaker 1: earlier and in the marketing, especially at the ice show,
1:10:19
Speaker 1: we had a we had a we had a slushy
1:10:21
Speaker 1: in the bat's head. They were really pushing the bat
1:10:25
Speaker 1: in marketing. They really want to make the bad thing,
1:10:27
Speaker 1: and I we still have that cup. My dad, my
1:10:30
Speaker 1: dad dreams out of that bad's head to this bad
1:10:34
Speaker 1: my dad drinks out of all the on ice cups.
1:10:37
Speaker 1: He doesn't like to throw things away at he he
1:10:40
Speaker 1: puts coffee in the bad and then he writes about
1:10:45
Speaker 1: hockey all day. And that's his feminism. But yeah, no,
1:10:49
Speaker 1: I like this movie a lot. I think that it,
1:10:52
Speaker 1: like is one of the best versions of this format.
1:10:55
Speaker 1: So so three and a half nippies. I'm going to
1:10:58
Speaker 1: give two to the cartoon Nanna Station Jesus. Uh. Then
1:11:04
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give one to dmich Uh. I'm sorry, sorry,
1:11:11
Speaker 1: did you I've been holding that back for a long
1:11:13
Speaker 1: time ago uh. And then I'll I'll kick the last
1:11:18
Speaker 1: half nip I'll give it to the dog. Dog kind
1:11:20
Speaker 1: of looks like my dog. Yeah, a little floppy dog
1:11:23
Speaker 1: that looks stupid. Does Does anyone remember what the dog's
1:11:27
Speaker 1: name was Pa? It's Puka. The dog's name is Pouka.
1:11:32
Speaker 1: Does that mean something? No, it's just it's Russian for dog. Wow.
1:11:40
Speaker 1: Punts is to fart. So that's right in the neighborhood.
1:11:45
Speaker 1: And that's fun. That's just fun. That's fun. I hope
1:11:48
Speaker 1: they named the dog far. I was gonna say the
1:11:53
Speaker 1: comrade Fleming cough or whatever. That's actually like a pretty
1:11:58
Speaker 1: common Russian trope in Russian literature, especially like humor stuff,
1:12:02
Speaker 1: is that someone's name. Someone will be like an asshole
1:12:05
Speaker 1: and their name will be Mr. Ship and it's just
1:12:08
Speaker 1: like never addressed. It's just like Mr Ship is being
1:12:11
Speaker 1: mean again. And so that's like a very very common
1:12:15
Speaker 1: trip and it's dealt with like very matter of factly,
1:12:18
Speaker 1: like it's not really addressed, like the Stay Sky. A
1:12:20
Speaker 1: lot of times it's there's a there's somebody with the
1:12:23
Speaker 1: name Mr. Ship literally, so I don't know, so that's
1:12:27
Speaker 1: a for me. That's I don't know, there's some accuracy,
1:12:30
Speaker 1: that's uh. And what would you rate the movie on
1:12:34
Speaker 1: the nipple scale. Okay, so on the nipple scale, I
1:12:38
Speaker 1: rate the movie. I think three and a half is
1:12:41
Speaker 1: a great rating. I think you were wrong with three.
1:12:44
Speaker 1: So what are you vote? An embarrassment? No, I just
1:12:50
Speaker 1: it really is so different from other I mean, it
1:12:53
Speaker 1: really rocked my world that it was not a Disney
1:12:55
Speaker 1: movie because it looks so much Disney movie that it's
1:12:59
Speaker 1: alarm like, how did they not get sued? Um? But
1:13:04
Speaker 1: she seems like an autonomous I mean, given the time, also,
1:13:08
Speaker 1: which is the turn of this? You know, the like
1:13:10
Speaker 1: this nineteen sixteen, nineteen twenty six I don't know how
1:13:15
Speaker 1: independent women were in Russia. Quite frankly, they were fiercely independent,
1:13:20
Speaker 1: super independent. Yeah. It was actually a very feminist community feminist,
1:13:25
Speaker 1: this little community feminist running around whatever, very small, you
1:13:30
Speaker 1: knew everybody, all the girls were there. But yeah, she's
1:13:36
Speaker 1: like at least an interesting character who's funny and stands
1:13:41
Speaker 1: up for herself. So yeah, I'm comfortable with three and
1:13:45
Speaker 1: a half nipples for this movie. Well, Anna, thank you
1:13:50
Speaker 1: so much for being here, and thank you. Tell us
1:13:59
Speaker 1: where can pe? We'll follow you online? Is there anything
1:14:02
Speaker 1: you would like to plug? Um? I have a very exciting,
1:14:06
Speaker 1: not yet to be talked about project involving Kiana Reeves
1:14:10
Speaker 1: that will be a podcast sometime soon. It does, it
1:14:12
Speaker 1: will pass the back del test, even though it's about
1:14:16
Speaker 1: Kiana Reeves, even though okay, yeah, that's impressive. Yeah, how
1:14:19
Speaker 1: do we identify? How do we, as women who are
1:14:24
Speaker 1: obsessed with Kiana Reeves maintain our time? Uh yeah yeah, well,
1:14:34
Speaker 1: I mean all you really need to know, I guess
1:14:36
Speaker 1: is that by Twitter is touching Cheesus. Yes, and that's
1:14:41
Speaker 1: really all I have to say for myself. Okay, thank
1:14:44
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1:14:52
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1:14:56
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