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Bears Over Beers: Our Training Camp Experience, Injury Worries? · 2nd City Gridiron

• 0:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's up Chicago Bears fans.
• 0:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is bears over bears.
• 0:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: We have traveled hundreds of miles, and we are back in the home office to talk to you about our experience at training camp, to talk to you about the first preseason game of the 2,026 season coming at you.
• 0:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: This weekend, Ryan Drasty, Brian Ornchuk, Brian, how you doing tonight?
• 0:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Both of us, although I may have driven further, you drove through some more dangerous weather.
• 0:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let's be real about that.
• 0:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: You did miss it, but you saw it.
• 0:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: And impacted your plans a little bit, but both of us made it there and back with our families no less, which is very impressive.
• 1:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know about you, but everybody in my family has a positive memory and experience taken from it.
• 1:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it was overall great experience.
• 1:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: for sure, for sure.
• 1:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 1:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: As you mentioned, coming back, we hit some crazy weather.
• 1:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Luckily, we stopped at a brewery and dodge that.
• 1:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, going out there, weather was good.
• 1:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was really, really nervous that our practice on Wednesday last week was going to get canceled, you know, due to the forecast.
• 1:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it was very overcast, not too hot.
• 1:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: And dodge the bullet.
• 1:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was actually great weather.
• 1:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Little humid, but not hot at all.
• 1:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 1:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Got the full practice in and
• 1:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: in Chicago.
• 1:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, right up until you got to town, and then I had to leave, so our paths didn't cross, but you know, you were kind of a very last minute, you know, addition to the training camp experience.
• 1:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm, you know, super jack that you got to go.
• 1:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I want to hear all about it on the show here because, you know, you drove like 11 hours or something to get there with most of your family.
• 2:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: But before we do all of that Brian, we got to get the beer in the glass because I'm thirsty.
• 2:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: I am parched.
• 2:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: I had dinner tonight.
• 2:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: My wife made tacos.
• 2:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Usually I would drink during tacos.
• 2:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, no, I got the podcast.
• 2:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to wait.
• 2:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Tell him the air with Brian.
• 2:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then I'm going to pour something.
• 2:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: So what do you got my friend?
• 2:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm thirsty too.
• 2:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: So for tonight.
• 2:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: kind of going orange theme here as you can see.
• 2:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: So this is a big little thing.
• 2:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a hazy IPA.
• 2:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is an imperial variety.
• 2:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: I've not had the imperial.
• 2:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: So 9.5%, this is a Sierra Nevada delicious beer, hazy beer, obviously it's a tall boy.
• 2:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Citrus, hazy, light, refreshing,
• 2:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: all of it.
• 2:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just absolutely love this beer, love this brewery.
• 2:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, I got our mug fresh out of the freezer and let's hope it won't pour over my computer this time.
• 3:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: But, uh, oh yeah, you can tell sparks start flying from your keyboard.
• 3:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 3:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Look how hate war is.
• 3:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Look at that poor.
• 3:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Very nice.
• 3:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
• 3:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Good stuff.
• 3:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Shout out Sierra Nevada.
• 3:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
• 3:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
• 3:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: How about you?
• 3:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I brought a few beers back from Chicago, but I've had them on the show before.
• 3:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I was sitting around a day.
• 3:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I don't actually have anything in my house that I haven't had on the show.
• 3:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I try to make it unique every time.
• 3:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's in here.
• 3:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 3:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I want to the liquor store.
• 3:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I found this beer and I've never actually seen this one before, maybe you've heard of it because it's it's actually from middle town New York and I was actually surprised to find it here in eastern Iowa, I must have just started carrying it so this is actually a collaboration brew so it's between
• 4:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's see, Equilibrium Brewing and other half brewing, but I think Equilibrium Brewing is the one that's up there in middle town, New York, kind of unique label on it.
• 4:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it is called the Dream Wave, Claire's Pretty Cool, Dream Wave fluctuation.
• 4:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: There you go.
• 4:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: And this is an IPA.
• 4:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a double IPA.
• 4:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: It says beer balanced by science, 8.1%.
• 4:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, did they tell the hops in this one thing to do not?
• 4:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know what hops are in it, but beer balanced by science sounds good to me.
• 4:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're going to get this one poured.
• 4:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: I also have our mug handy right here.
• 4:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: So let's crack this one open.
• 4:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: And first one, never had it before, never seen it.
• 4:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Where'd you say you got it from?
• 4:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Just a local liquor store here.
• 4:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: I almost got a dog fish head 90 minute.
• 5:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.
• 5:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a classic, I always liked that beer.
• 5:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 5:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: I wanted the 120 you got me intrigued by, but
• 5:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: I have a one 20 in my fridge.
• 5:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's been there for a couple of years and I had one and I'll just say it really got the job done.
• 5:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 5:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: I have special occasion for the other one and it's just I think it's a 15% beer and probably the longer it sits it probably gains alcohol.
• 5:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it might be getting up towards 17, 18% by now.
• 5:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Cheers, my man.
• 5:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Cheers.
• 5:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yes.
• 5:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: So good.
• 5:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: So good.
• 5:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: They look pretty similar side by side.
• 5:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hold yours up again.
• 5:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I did.
• 5:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Looks like orange juice.
• 5:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yours is yours seems a little brighter.
• 5:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but just a little bit.
• 6:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're very similar.
• 6:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was almost at one that had an allecimum so they've got one that I've seen before it's black and green and they had a different one that is actually brewed with orange juice.
• 6:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: I've almost got it but it just had the vibe of a mimosa which I love mimosas and there's a breakfast joint out here in Western North Carolina one of our favorites.
• 6:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: called Luis's Kitchen, and they make man Moses, which is orange juice with PBR.
• 6:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it makes it true.
• 6:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 6:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I do like those.
• 6:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: But that's that I just had this breakfast, you know, vibes.
• 6:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I wasn't going breakfast vibe for tonight.
• 6:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I went with this one.
• 6:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'll ask, but anyway man cheers looking forward to it.
• 6:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Which we could have had a beer together in Shai Town?
• 6:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know what's weird as I as I looked back on my trip.
• 6:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't have a single beer while I was there now Granted I was there real quick.
• 7:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I had my family.
• 7:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: There was not many You know many opportunities to chill, but they were serving beer at at Hall's Hall
• 7:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, and at some people were getting some tall boys, too.
• 7:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: They look great.
• 7:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I was so focused on on the practice and seen the players and had my kids with me.
• 7:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so I didn't end up getting one.
• 7:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I'm excited.
• 7:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, they, I mean, they have quite the set up that I was actually really, I was planning on getting some of the ice coffee there and trying that and I never ended up getting any.
• 7:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's such a whirlwind when you go to camp.
• 7:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: It really is.
• 7:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: It really is.
• 7:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll maybe kind of walk you through if you've never been kind of what it's like now.
• 7:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've only been once before in 2024, Caleb and Rome's rookie, I went that year.
• 7:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Not last year.
• 7:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Went this year.
• 7:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know it was your first time in Lake Forest, Brian.
• 7:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, man, I got there Tuesday night kind of late got into town had some stuff earlier in the day to Zay got into town.
• 8:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like I brought all three of my daughters and my wife we got up early, you know, we went over to you get you get on the bus at the hotborne mall and then they take you over because the, you know, they didn't build the house hall to have that kind of traffic there so.
• 8:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: They have to bust you over, but I will say it was better organized this year than when I did two years ago, they're going there and leaving, because when you got on the buses at the end of practice, remember two years ago when I went, it was kind of chaotic and people were just kind of all over the grass next to the road, and this year they kind of like funnels you out, and they had like a wrap around line, it was really organized, and it was really easy to get out of there.
• 8:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was, I thought, I thought the whole experience, in fact, I'm in a publishing article, probably tomorrow on my, my whole experience.
• 8:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'll definitely tag this video in it, but I was impressed.
• 8:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Start to finish.
• 8:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the whole way.
• 8:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I thought it was a smooth operation.
• 8:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the coolest thing about it was, you know, I hate lines.
• 9:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like I have to go out there and say, I know what I talked about that when you would plan your trip to Florida, how much I despise waiting lines, especially in Florida heat and humidity.
• 9:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: But,
• 9:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: There was something about being in line with nothing but bearous fans.
• 9:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I didn't care that there was a way.
• 9:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was just, I was just enjoying the merch, like different jerseys and the hats and the shirts with the different slogans or whatever.
• 9:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, that was so fun for me.
• 9:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was like a kid in a candy store, you know, my daughter kept making fun of me.
• 9:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it was great.
• 9:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I, you know, part of me wishes,
• 9:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: I could have had a clone to enjoy all the extra curricular stuff.
• 9:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, they had, we did get some of the iced coffee samples that Duncan was given out.
• 9:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: My daughters, they don't normally get caffeinated coffee, so they got a little shot of that, which was a treat for them.
• 10:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: But there's a lot of good looking food and
• 10:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, there's face painting, in fact, I still have the remnants you can see on my forearm of a job they did.
• 10:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: You can't really see if you see the orange and a little bit.
• 10:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I'll have to show you picture.
• 10:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it was fun.
• 10:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: And
• 10:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the scene, the players was amazing.
• 10:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I, I feel like next time I'll be more savvy.
• 10:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: I when it comes to maybe positioning myself for autographs.
• 10:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: But the tough part for me is, you know, a lot of people there I saw in line, they go there for the autographs for the merch for the memorabilia.
• 10:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: I want to see the football players.
• 10:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: I want to see the action.
• 10:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so, you know,
• 10:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: someone like me, I got there early with the first couple players or out there and I wanted to stay late, but you can't do that with a wife and kids.
• 10:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, it was a tricky experience to do it with a family, but yeah, like we, you and I talked about off the air, how fun it would be for you and I, to finally get to go one one year.
• 11:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: And, and I think, I think that'd be a blast just to
• 11:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, so called the geeky stuff up with each other, but overall, absolutely, highly recommend the experience 10 out of 10.
• 11:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 11:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: And you mentioned it.
• 11:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: You were hoping that you missed the the implement weather cancellation.
• 11:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: I barely missed it Sunday the day after I was there got canceled and again yesterday got canceled so how how much of a disappointment to say the least would that have been to drive 11 and a half hours yeah and then turn around for nothing.
• 11:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, and also the fact that ours didn't get canceled on Wednesday, made you going on the weekend possible because if ours had been canceled on Wednesday, our plan was to stay in extra night and actually J.B. had an extra ticket.
• 11:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was going to give to me because I already had four for Saturday and then I was going to take the whole family on Saturday.
• 12:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: But since Wednesday's practice happened,
• 12:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we avoided the rain.
• 12:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Then I had the four that I was able to transfer to you.
• 12:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you guys can make the driver North Carolina.
• 12:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, I think JB gave Lester his ticket and then Lester you end up meeting up with Lester and you know, you saw brags there.
• 12:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: that so I I actually didn't see like anybody I knew really which was on you know pretty unfortunate but I wanted to meet up with people but it was just such a whirlwind and it was family too like it's tough yeah like the crystal crystal crystal crystal Simone who is like a big bear's phange you'll see her
• 12:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: She actually gave me an extra ticket, which is why I was able to take my youngest.
• 12:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: And she was at practice one day and we were trying to meet up.
• 12:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I was like so back and forth, our kids that I re-worn able to link up, unfortunately.
• 12:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I wanted to.
• 12:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, it's for your future.
• 12:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: I met you better, yeah.
• 12:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're the Greg.
• 12:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that was a crazy story.
• 12:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't looking for him.
• 13:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just walking out with everybody.
• 13:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I hear this voice that I know in the crowd of thousands.
• 13:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 13:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, that sounds like Brax.
• 13:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it's right in front of me.
• 13:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like Braxy.
• 13:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he turned around and said, hey, man.
• 13:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, man, yeah, there's over here.
• 13:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: See, oh, hey, that's going.
• 13:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, that was awesome.
• 13:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, nice.
• 13:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think I think being on the Saturday helps weekend here we can go, but I saw, I saw old offensive lineman Steve Edwards, if you remember him.
• 13:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: He, he was around early 2000s and started on our team for a couple of years and he the former UCF alum.
• 13:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I've not, I've not seen him and I saw him as a Steve, you know, a whole bunch of people everywhere.
• 13:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: I had my daughter on my shoulders.
• 13:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, yeah, and I walked up.
• 13:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: I said, hey, it's like, yeah, I'm from UCF too.
• 13:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: I walked on right after you left.
• 13:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so it was awesome.
• 13:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: And my dad was like, yeah, I got a course in London, a course in London, a course in London.
• 14:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm on my shoulder.
• 14:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I was like, man, let's meet you.
• 14:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm out of here.
• 14:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it was cool.
• 14:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: But you got to get Luther Burns autograph.
• 14:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 14:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 14:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: So this is this is a good story.
• 14:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to spend like the first half of the show.
• 14:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Just share and train and camp stories.
• 14:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Be pretty loose.
• 14:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully you guys enjoy this.
• 14:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, we'll get to the bears' news.
• 14:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: The second half.
• 14:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: But we got to share the stuff.
• 14:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we are walking into camp.
• 14:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I got my three daughters with me.
• 14:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we're basically we were we were looking for how you get these autographed wrist bands.
• 14:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we had this situation where my daughters were able, we got, we had one autograph wristband that we got, but we didn't, we obviously didn't have three of them.
• 14:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: So this became a fight with my entire family because, you know, my other daughters, of course, one of the autograph wristbands.
• 15:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we were able to get the one from Sam Householder from Wendy City Gridiron.
• 15:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: He had transferred one of those two men or his wife did.
• 15:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we were able to figure that out.
• 15:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I
• 15:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: actually he wasn't able to actually transfer it to me but he sent me the email and so I had to go up to like this booth and be like look I don't have the the actual ticket for you to scan for the the special kids autograph session but here's the email that Sam's wife sent me and they looked at it and they're like okay we'll give you one and I saw his name like on the spreadsheet to they had printed off in front of him
• 15:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I noticed elsewhere in that spreadsheet that another person's name was crossed off and they were supposed to have three and they were only taking one and it said only using one and I was like hey since you got two extra to this bare staff person could my other two daughters like have to also on there like no we can't do that.
• 15:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, come on, because I knew that it was going to turn in this fight, right?
• 16:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: So then it's this fight and my middle daughter is like whining about it.
• 16:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: She wants the wristband.
• 16:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, you got to let our oldest go.
• 16:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: You'll get to do it some year, you know?
• 16:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: So then we're walking towards the practice field.
• 16:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we think it's a line to get into the Walter Payton Center first.
• 16:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're in this line.
• 16:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: And no, it's a line to meet George McCaskey.
• 16:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, all right, we got to do it.
• 16:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: So what the line wasn't that long?
• 16:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we go up and we meet George and, you know, he's yucking it up with my kids and was super nice to um sign their footballs, you know, they all three at autographed footballs and my youngest she didn't have any signatures on her ball yet, you know, the first time going to training camp.
• 16:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: So she's hand in the ball to George and McCaskey looks down at her and he's like, now I want you to know that the minute I sign this ball, it's going to be worth less than it was just a minute ago.
• 16:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know it was pretty funny.
• 16:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: My five year old's like, what?
• 16:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Then he picks her up and he's holding, you've seen the pictures and I'm not going to put on the show, but like he's holding my daughter and he's chatting with us.
• 17:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then he goes, hey, you know what, he's like, you want to meet some of the players standing, he reaches in his pocket and he pulls out autograph for his fans.
• 17:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they actually are different than the ones they were given out the stand.
• 17:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: They were different color.
• 17:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he gets on a my other two daughters and I was like, yes.
• 17:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, George, you have no idea what you just did for me.
• 17:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's like this was a huge battle.
• 17:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you just saved the day.
• 17:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much, you know.
• 17:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so then we went off and yeah, we got a spot in the stands, which was cool because when I went two years ago, we were in the Walter Peyton Center a really long time, you know, looked at the memorabilia on the second level.
• 17:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Super cool stuff.
• 17:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Walter's Super Bowl rings in there.
• 17:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: But by the time we got out to the practice field, all the seats were taken in the bleachers.
• 17:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we had to stand on the corner and it was so hot that day and my kids were not happy.
• 17:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: So this time, like, all right, we're going to actually go a little bit earlier.
• 17:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we did the Walter Peyton Center thing, but kind of rushed through it.
• 18:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Got to seat in the stands.
• 18:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: But then you have to leave early to make the autograph signing thing.
• 18:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: They do for the wrist bit.
• 18:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like it actually start that before practice ends.
• 18:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they bring a few players over.
• 18:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: um uh by like golf cart.
• 18:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: So go back into the Walter Payton Center for the autographs.
• 18:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: And um my kids get in line and they've got like three separate lines.
• 18:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the the line that my daughters were in ends up being JP Richardson and Luther Bird and I was like, oh my goodness.
• 18:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, like Luther is by far the biggest star out there.
• 18:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that you know that I'm turning
• 18:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: who else was out there.
• 18:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was like, I think Stephen Carlson was, it was like some backup tight ends.
• 18:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think Carlson was out there.
• 18:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe Hayden Lodge.
• 18:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: The last table that came out, they had Xavier on Thomas.
• 19:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: That was pretty cool.
• 19:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: So they weren't really Xavier on Thomas, but I mean, it was Luther Burke.
• 19:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Come on.
• 19:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's makes a whole trip worth just that.
• 19:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then if like the next day, I think he got injured in practice.
• 19:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: But anyways, we'll talk about the day.
• 19:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was there.
• 19:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was there.
• 19:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's right.
• 19:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: You video, a Saturday.
• 19:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 19:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: So anyways, they get up to up front and they're getting the out and you're supposed to get both of the guys at the at the table's autograph, right?
• 19:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: But my youngest didn't realize that.
• 19:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: So she got J.P. Richardson.
• 19:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then she just walked off.
• 19:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, at the middle of the field where the parents have to stay.
• 19:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, Gwen, Gwen, go back.
• 19:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like yelling, I'm like, go back, go back, go back.
• 19:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: And my oldest is already back to the parents by then.
• 19:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, go Tyler.
• 19:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: And my oldest, like,
• 19:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: sweet talk the security lady that she forgot the at Luther's autograph and she actually let him go back to get to get my youngest to get Luther's autographs.
• 19:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: That was a near miss.
• 19:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was a near I was I was so angry.
• 19:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: The parents around me were laughing.
• 20:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was like no get Luther go back and she did not hear me at all.
• 20:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was like screaming at her.
• 20:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Go go go go go.
• 20:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: So we didn't even get those tickets for.
• 20:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: We it was similar like we don't have as cool of a story as George McCash.
• 20:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: You pulled him out as pocket, but we were waiting kind of in the in the thralls of people trying to get the players as they walked out along the gate.
• 20:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: And this bare staff lady came up was like, you guys want tickets to the autograph session.
• 20:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I had already been in line, tried to get them.
• 20:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: And they said no.
• 20:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: And we were like, heck yeah, we have three.
• 20:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: So we got three.
• 20:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so yes, three different lines.
• 20:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: The first line nobody came when we were there.
• 20:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was going to be backup quarterbacks.
• 20:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think I don't know who was going to be, but definitely not Caleb.
• 20:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: But the middle line,
• 20:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: My daughter got Josh Blackwell and Cairo Santos, which is pretty cool, Cairo.
• 21:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: But the farline was Bogartner, the long snapper, and Anthony Johnson Jr. back up defensive back.
• 21:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: But thankfully it was my middle child, my second born, who didn't care.
• 21:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: She didn't care.
• 21:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: She didn't even know who Caleb Williams is.
• 21:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like she was happy to be there, you know, and thrilled to get autograph.
• 21:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: So she was stoked.
• 21:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, super cool.
• 21:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, Jack Sandborn was one of, he came out to you.
• 21:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: I wanted, I was like, Arya, if you get Jack Sandborn, number 57, your dad calls him neck Sandborn.
• 21:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: And she was like, okay, dad, whatever.
• 21:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it was, it was fun, man.
• 21:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was cool hanging with Lester, got to meet Jonathan Wood to, he brought his notebook, he was taking notes.
• 21:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: They were both
• 21:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was, it was a lot to manage.
• 21:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: My daughter was like, that's not touching your sweaty.
• 21:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, okay, you know, like trying to do all the things.
• 22:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: But we got, we got good seats.
• 22:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 22:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, it was, it was really cool seeing the players.
• 22:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: And some of the action.
• 22:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: But we skipped Walter Pate.
• 22:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: I did skip Walter Pate Center to start.
• 22:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then I left with my eldest to go back in and kind of check out the, the scene a little bit.
• 22:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 22:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, man, it was great experience.
• 22:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're on, they're on fields three and four for you, right?
• 22:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've never been on those fields.
• 22:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're back like behind the Walter Payton Center.
• 22:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 22:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, both times I've gone, it's been one and two, which are the fields right by the headquarters.
• 22:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 22:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I've never been back there.
• 22:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 22:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, three and four was nice.
• 22:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I was pleased with the covered seating options.
• 22:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it was,
• 22:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, more of a walk for the players.
• 22:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: So like we saw Caleb drive the cart, Cole's some coals in love and drive the cart and you know, try to get in the stop that they just waved because they have the long way back to get back to house hall.
• 23:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, longer.
• 23:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: But,
• 23:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: but yeah it was it was fun but overall like oh these hats came from training camp too everybody got these hats you got some to soft or my kids got them all for my us of us got them I left the two behind that's what enabled us to go when we had my sister and lost stepped up and said she could watch the baby as well
• 23:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we went, how far did you drive?
• 23:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Tell the listeners.
• 23:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: 11 and a half hours.
• 23:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: You've got there.
• 23:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: You got there like after midnight, didn't you?
• 23:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Of course, 130.
• 23:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: The night, I got like maybe three hours of sleep and then that was ramped up ready to go.
• 23:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then we stayed less than 23 hours in Chicago.
• 23:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and you got the same hotel.
• 23:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was at just a few days earlier.
• 23:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, same hotel.
• 23:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, gotten in town super late woke up early for breakfast.
• 23:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Got to the mall for the the shuttle came back.
• 23:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Got dressed up real quick went downtown and and it was packed.
• 24:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it was supposed to not be so busy, but it was packed that weekend, which kind of messed our plans up, because we wanted to spend some time downtown.
• 24:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to show my daughters the being, which they did see, but it threw off our plans, and then we went to the sky game to see Caitlyn Clark, which was awesome.
• 24:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: but my wife got the tickets and it was 330 Eastern time, 230 Central, so we went at 330 Central and we got there at halftime and my daughter was pissed.
• 24:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was in tears, like the whole third quarter.
• 24:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't even tell you about that story, that was a mess, but we got there late because we were trying to find parking and walk around downtown.
• 24:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I spent like 30 bucks on parking.
• 24:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: 30 bucks on a noober and then 40 bucks in the way back for an Uber.
• 24:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it's like $100 just for a ride, you know.
• 24:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then I got and we got in the car after we got some dinner downtown at Shake Shack, which was delicious.
• 25:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: They loved it.
• 25:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: And drove back that night.
• 25:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't get home till I got home with like 5 a.m. 536 a.m. on Sunday.
• 25:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was texting you like Friday night on my how far up.
• 25:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: We had just gotten home and I was like how far out are you?
• 25:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Two hours out slow, something it was late.
• 25:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh my god, he's not going to get any sleep but I'm glad you got there, man.
• 25:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's that's going to be quite a story for you to tell for years.
• 25:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Remember that time we jumped in the car drove 11 and a half hours just cog over there 23 hours and then drove 11 and a half hours back.
• 25:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's that's hardcore.
• 25:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's awesome.
• 25:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the last thing I would say, the flip side of doing the kids autograph thing is we missed most of the other players who signed out by the rope on the practice field, so by the time we got out their practice was over and the guys were pretty much done signing and then I saw later that Caleb actually signed that day and Rome signed.
• 25:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: like I think at the rope line and we've done that like the last time we did it we didn't get a chance to do it because we were in the Walter Payton Center, you know, what did they got loot there?
• 26:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you know, you could trade up, but we hung around for a little while and Jalen did sign and we were out there when he was signing and I put my youngest up on my shoulder so he could like see her, but he didn't really look out much.
• 26:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: I thought if he signs for anyone it's going to be the little kid, you know.
• 26:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: He never even really looked up.
• 26:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was just like business sign in a native limited to how many did people were pushing forward.
• 26:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Dude, you would have thought it was like the Beatles or Elvis for Jalen Johnson.
• 26:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was crazy people are going on with Jalen signing and we're standing there.
• 26:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: People are like pushing from behind.
• 26:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: He signed a little bit left and then Tyler was out there.
• 26:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: And Kyler was after practice, work in the jug machine, and people were yellin' like Kyler, come on man, there was someone wearing a Kyler, Gordon Jersey, and he did not sign.
• 26:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: And eventually his security was like, all right, you guys got to go.
• 27:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so we left.
• 27:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: But then I think I saw the next day he'd sign for people.
• 27:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: So.
• 27:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I don't care that much about autographs, but it's it's like super cool for your kids to have that they they have it on display in their room.
• 27:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: They got a few signatures now and good story for them growing up.
• 27:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.
• 27:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean, it's it's you know.
• 27:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: that the promise of definitely getting on our graph versus not and we made it back out in time to get that that one of the staff members was like there's there's still sign in if you like there if you want to go out there and so we saw Colston and Caleb come but they didn't sign anything they just they just walked by you know they didn't miss any elite ones but um and that's really all my my daughter my oldest
• 27:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: was one was Caleb and maybe, maybe Kyler, she loves Spidey, and Colson, or Burton, but
• 27:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I mean, again, like they just just like having somebody to sign their stuff.
• 27:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: What was cool for me, too, was, you know, I'm in Western North Carolina.
• 28:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like they're not many bare stands out here.
• 28:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: And you see behind me, like my whole house, my whole room, like I got all bare stuff, I'm the weirdo around here.
• 28:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so we go to this place and all of a sudden,
• 28:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, there's a lot of weirdos like my dad, you know, and so my dad's maybe not that weird.
• 28:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so that was a cool thing for me was, you know, there are people that looked cool.
• 28:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Kids that look cool adults look cool with cool jerseys and and, you know, it scored some points for me.
• 28:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: was fun.
• 28:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I heard on Baron Balanced the other day, Lester talking about your daughter, probably your oldest to J.B. and how she was really up on the football.
• 28:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: And she knew exactly what who the players were and he was listening to her talk to you and thought that that was pretty cool.
• 28:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: That she, you know, she knew the players, she knew what was going on.
• 28:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, my old and she's the one that I would have taken just her on this trip and then we could have gone with just our oldest.
• 29:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but my wife, rightfully, was like, you can't just take her, you know, because she always gets all the stuff.
• 29:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: You got to bring Ivory to my second board.
• 29:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: And
• 29:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I, we doesn't, doesn't know.
• 29:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Arya, my oldest, she watches, she pays attention.
• 29:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, she's the one, you know, she's, she's got bare stuff in her room.
• 29:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: She watches the games with me, she knows the players.
• 29:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that's cool.
• 29:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: He said that didn't hear that on the show, but yeah, he was, she was on one side, and Lester was on the other.
• 29:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: So he met my family, which is really cool, boss man.
• 29:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm, I'm a hope and you know, maybe maybe we'll get to a game this year Brian and and be all the hang out who knows we've talked about some different ideas.
• 29:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see other season plays out and you know, I don't really have any thoughts on training came less you do.
• 29:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: transition.
• 29:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, we obviously had some good ways this year.
• 29:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: We got we got our last one is tomorrow.
• 30:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Roman from Wendy City, Gridiron, one of the long time members.
• 30:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's going the afternoon practice.
• 30:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Roman, hopefully you enjoy it.
• 30:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Look forward to hearing your thoughts.
• 30:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: those of you that are on Wendy City, Good Iron Romans, one of our die hearts.
• 30:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's a well-known commenter and excited to hear his thoughts on it, but no great experience and the kids enjoyed it.
• 30:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I'm looking forward to going without kids next time so you can get more diving into the football stuff.
• 30:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's hard.
• 30:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's really hard to consider when you get your kids there.
• 30:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: My oldest was like yours.
• 30:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: She was watching the most with me in the stands.
• 30:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: I actually my wife took our younger two off to just play in the Walter Payton Center for a while because they were whining.
• 30:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, me and my oldest were just watching from the bleachers for a while.
• 30:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then I got a text for my wife saying, oh, they're going to start.
• 30:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: the autograph signing here soon.
• 30:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: You got five minutes to get here and I was like, what practice is an over yet?
• 30:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, hadn't got to any two-minute drill or anything like that yet?
• 30:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: They had done the seven and sevens and we saw that and I was like, all right, I guess we got to get up and go over there and that was like the end of what we saw for practice.
• 31:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, right.
• 31:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it would be a totally different experience without kids.
• 31:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'd like to go maybe once with them and once just with like you or the guys next time.
• 31:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, we'll see what happens.
• 31:19
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• 32:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: So Brian, the big story right now with the bears is these mounting injuries.
• 33:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, there's been a lot of talk is the bears practices to
• 33:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: two physical.
• 33:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, all right, it should they back it off a little bit.
• 33:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: But you know, if you read the awesome Dan Pompeii piece in the athletic today on Ben Johnson, you know, he learned and Detroit about kind of going full-born practice and that's what they do there and he feels like they got to do that to compete with Detroit if they want to win the division and, you know, he will reason contact their practice.
• 33:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: But they will, I mean, some of these injuries are just soft tissue injuries that just freak
• 33:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: But obviously the biggest one that we just found out yesterday is that Kobe Bryant is going to be out for four to six months with that injury he had and we had heard reports it was going to be eight to ten weeks and that they had dodged a bull of it turns out that wasn't at all accurate and in fact then said in his press conference yesterday that he has always been told is going to be this four to six month time table so he had the surgery last Friday four months is.
• 34:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you can come back in December, and if the bears make the playoffs this year, like we hope and think that they will, like give some several weeks to be ready for the playoffs.
• 34:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we could see him this year, but obviously, we wanted him back there as a veteran to help bring along Thineman and, you know, now we're not going to have that.
• 34:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, your thoughts on the Kobe Bryant issue, your concern level right now after we
• 34:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: you know, he's he's a veteran.
• 34:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: So he's going to be back there.
• 34:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I still think there's a lot of going to be more pressure on Thineman to carry that back end, especially if our past rush doesn't get home like we need it to.
• 34:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 34:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 34:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: My first thought is I'm glad it wasn't anybody in offense.
• 34:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, we're going to have to score points no matter what, and if we have the protection up front, anything close to what it was last year, our weapons are going to be even better because they're going to be a year more advanced in the system.
• 35:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Caleb's going to be more in tune with his coach and what they want with he wants.
• 35:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm just grateful it wasn't on offense, and on the flip side, we got that terrible news, but then we heard that Ozich Pillo might be back before training camp ends.
• 35:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it almost feels like their timelines have been swapped and some weird, you know, multi-dimensional quantum thing.
• 35:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: But,
• 35:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm bummed, you know, I'm also the other thought I'd go to is I'm grateful that we got a first ground safety.
• 35:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm loonship safety to bolster that secondary.
• 35:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: We lost our two starters last year, but, but Thena is a guy that, you know,
• 35:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: I would like over any of those starters last year.
• 35:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's young.
• 35:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't have the experience of the savviness or the play recognition of a buyer, but he's got more speed and I think he's got more potential and who knows the type of chess pieces that we'll see him being utilized as in then-sounds defense.
• 36:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: One thing I'll say, having been at camp.
• 36:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's not getting a lot of publicity.
• 36:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: He did finish that day with an interception.
• 36:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't see it because I was getting autographs by the eighth string defensive back.
• 36:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: But he did well in the coverage of one-on-one coverage drills.
• 36:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: you know, he's very sticky in coverage.
• 36:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: He, he, he looked apart.
• 36:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like Thineman looked apart a lot.
• 36:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's not getting as much published publicity as like a cable downs and Dallas or an manual McNear warning in Cleveland and other safety that was high in a lot of people's boards who who looks great in Cleveland.
• 36:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: But Thineman is, is looking the part.
• 36:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now,
• 36:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: He has been getting beat by Colson Lovelin, you know, a bunch in camp, but a lot of guys are.
• 37:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he's in position to make plays and he's getting stronger and as far as the his recognition skills and his comforting confidence.
• 37:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, I'm excited about him.
• 37:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: I like the Xavier Woods signing.
• 37:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: I had mentioned I kind of wanted like a Harrison Smith signing.
• 37:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: I got it.
• 37:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be more that he positional coach back there as well, but Woods has a lot of experience and he's kind of a versatile piece.
• 37:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: He looked good as well.
• 37:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it was like one of his first couple practices if not his first practice that we had.
• 37:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: He used with his the second team, but I kept noticing number 23 on the defense.
• 37:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's like who is that guy, and I was so exager words, and so I think we have enough.
• 37:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: there, you know, with a healthy dia with sweat and the defensive line, Jordan Vanderberg, he actually flashed to me a couple of times in practice as well.
• 38:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: But then Devin Bush really excited about him.
• 38:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: So we've upgraded around him.
• 38:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Remember, we're getting Jalen Johnson back healthy.
• 38:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he looked like that bonafide, stud corner, lockdown corner that he is, as well.
• 38:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: We didn't have that last year.
• 38:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: We pretty much played all year without him and Kyler.
• 38:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, hopefully we get Tyler back, but just having Jalen Johnson back alone is gonna be huge for our defense.
• 38:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I think ultimately it absolutely stinks, but if we get him back to the playoffs, how much of a boost is that gonna feel like?
• 38:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I was thinking that last year, you know, we got Tyler and Jalen back and they didn't look like, especially Jalen didn't look like himself right away.
• 38:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: But then, you know, in that game against LA,
• 38:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: they were starting to look about you know and they were hoping that Brian can get back earlier than that because I mean those guys came back solely just right away for the playoffs but man if we can if we could actually get Brian back and mid December and he could have a month to tune up before the playoffs to be huge and really just give a spark to the team.
• 39:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I mean, we're also hoping and thinking we're going to get more production out of the D line this year, and you know, if they're able to get home more quickly, then we're not going to have to have the back and carrying the defense so much so we had the question posed here in the chat a little bit ago, who do you guys think is going to be the fourth best.
• 39:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: past Russia, you know, on the bear's D-line this year.
• 39:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, I think we're thinking top three.
• 39:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, for me, would be Montez, Dio, and Booker.
• 39:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Who do we think is going to be number four?
• 39:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: What are your thoughts on that, Brian?
• 39:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think Dexter, I think you're on Dexter, yeah, yeah, he'd be my, in fact, I might even say he's ahead of Dio, but I'm going to put him behind Dio, you know, we've heard, we've heard that Dio is getting some looks at Detackle.
• 40:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: and in looking effective in that.
• 40:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I think in third down, you're going to have booker and sweat on the outside, diet and dexter inside.
• 40:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's going to cause some mismatches.
• 40:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think at the end of the year, you know, we are our listeners know, we're huge booker fans.
• 40:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: That first training camp you went to you guys autograph you should just have it on auto you know auto share at this point But he looked great.
• 40:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: He looked great in camp.
• 40:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: He looked like a bonafide Starting defensive end He's put on weight good weight.
• 40:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's he's making plays like every single every single practice section He's making plays and So I'm excited about him.
• 40:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think he leads a team in sex.
• 40:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think sweats right there now.
• 40:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: I would say dial it and
• 40:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: and Jevon Dexter are third and fourth.
• 40:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: I agree.
• 40:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I go with Dexter just for the experience factor and continue to get better for sure.
• 41:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Injury-wise also, I'm in the big scare, was Luther and we've talked about Luther on the show a lot heading into this year and I said many, many, many months ago, I expect to him to be the bear's number one this year.
• 41:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, not disrespecting Rome, I just think Luther is at
• 41:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: and scary moment when he got hurt at the practice you were at and we're all like waiting with baited breath and then we didn't hear anything for 24 hours and everyone's like, is that a good sign or a bad sign?
• 41:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: uh... they have that uh... they have that practice up at uh... think it was Stevenson high school and louther's walking around it looks you know he looks like he's not hobbled at all um... brain injury if you watched the video that was what i was thinking it was because when you when you slow down the video and everything like it's the zepruder film or something and you're like watching it frame by frame
• 41:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: But when he came down like he grabbed the groin area, you saw it happen in my instant.
• 42:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Looks like growing injury to me.
• 42:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so, you know, it looks like they're going to hold them out of preseason obviously, but they think he's going to be ready week one.
• 42:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: So dodge a bullet there, because that could have been way worse.
• 42:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that was a situation where it's like, oh, my god, I'm losing for the season.
• 42:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he's going to be ready week one.
• 42:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: So dodge the bullet there.
• 42:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: So despite all the bad news we've had in injuries and Kyler's still not practicing and all that, dodge a pretty big one there, right?
• 42:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely.
• 42:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: And like I said, I was there.
• 42:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: I saw that play.
• 42:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: I got it on film.
• 42:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't it was not the best shot because kind of cut off at the end.
• 42:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: But what I was drawn to was was Tyreak because he was going up against Tyreak and Tyreak also got hurt.
• 42:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: In fact, Tyreak was hurt even more Tyreak stayed on the field.
• 42:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was out for a while.
• 42:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: He did join practice again shortly after.
• 42:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: But Tyreak looked like he was in more pain.
• 43:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I wasn't worried about either of my told you I was like calm down, I think they're good, you know, obviously, until we get final word everybody's going to be worried, but based on what I saw.
• 43:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: it didn't look as bad as, you know, it's so funny being at camp and all of a sudden, like I follow a bunch of fantasy football folks all around the country and they're like, oh, with their burdens down, like he's gonna, you know, it's like whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa I'm like it's not that big with the everybody's worried I got people texting me like it's gonna be okay what's going on, you know, but yeah, we did dodge a bullet, but I think
• 43:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think where he's at right now, we already we've talked about how Ben has been glowing over burdened training camp in off season so far, he's going to be fine, you know, he's going to be fine.
• 43:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: I do think Rome, I still think Rome is the one A there, I do, I think he's the one A.
• 43:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: And now, not to say he's the more talented, but from like a leadership standpoint, Rome
• 44:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: in that room.
• 44:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm here in a talk, same thing now.
• 44:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: I put on an article a few weeks back.
• 44:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think Luther's going to get more yards.
• 44:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think Rome's going to get more touchdowns.
• 44:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: But both, we're going to eclipse a thousand this year without a doubt my mind.
• 44:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think
• 44:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it's going to be good to have him back, but I'm excited to give guys like today walker.
• 44:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Some more run, you know, in practice, he immediately started taking advantage of it.
• 44:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: That next day, he caught like a 60-year-old bomb from Caleb.
• 44:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, we've got some good depth.
• 44:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm excited to see what Cliff Raymond can do.
• 44:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: And obviously, we've talked about saving a little bit.
• 44:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think he's going to be a nice gadget player.
• 44:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's one of the things that I was
• 44:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: really encouraged by that I noticed was the place that I saw them run, a lot of the same formation, different variations, going different directions, taking your eyes one way and going the other
• 45:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: focusing on getting the ball to these guys with speed.
• 45:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, obviously we know about Swift, but Caleb's gonna get some wide open looks because of these guys going in different directions.
• 45:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: And you have Xavier and Thomas as well.
• 45:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm excited about this offense.
• 45:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think Xavier and Thomas is gonna give us some really clutch chunk plays this year.
• 45:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: And, but Burton's gonna be a beast.
• 45:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not worried about him.
• 45:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking forward to saving Thomas in the preseason game.
• 45:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Get the Browns this weekend.
• 45:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's gonna be the Tyson pageant show, I assume.
• 45:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't need to see Kale about their in preseason game one.
• 45:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how you feel about Kale.
• 45:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he was asked if he was what he knew is like, you know, he didn't really have a preference if he played or not.
• 46:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to see Kale out there this week?
• 46:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if he goes out there, he's gonna hand the ball off.
• 46:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 46:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'd like to see one drive.
• 46:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'd like to see one drive, you know, just, you know, what's, what, talk, think about it.
• 46:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: What's the one thing that, that, um, kind of the universal aspect of his game that people believe he need to improve this year, right?
• 46:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, it's like,
• 46:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: accuracy and like the layups, like the short chunk plays, keeping the drive on schedule, that's sort of thing.
• 46:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: I want to see some of that, some dink and dunk, making the nice reads, I want to see like one drive, control the offense, drive it down the field, obviously the run game is going to do it's thing, but I feel like it's important, especially with a new center,
• 46:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: to kind of get into a game rhythm with these guys, game speed, with timing on some of these shorter routes.
• 46:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: I would like to see one drive of Caleb and then after that, yeah, give me a Beijing all day.
• 47:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Speaking of Caleb and improving this year and Ben and the motions and everything, there was, there's my wife in the chat, cool.
• 47:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, that Dan Pompei piece, this, that you guys need to read it.
• 47:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's so good, just a great profile of Benja.
• 47:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: And like what it's like to spend a day with Benja and how intense this guy is.
• 47:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: But you got a window into what it's like when he meets with the offense, what he's expecting out of the offense this year, you know, he talked about one of the set the points record beat the 2013 Broncos where average I think around 37 points a game.
• 47:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: but man, he talked about how they were watching film and kaled through an interception and practice and Ben just like lit him up and not just him, like the whole offense because apparently like after the interception and the video frame the only person running after, I think it might have been tight reak the intercept that camera for sure, the only person like running after him
• 48:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: was Joe Tuney.
• 48:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, our 33-year-old guard is the only one who's doing out there.
• 48:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: But then he also talked about how Impressy's man with Caleb and what a hard worker he is and you know, there's some things he has to drill him on over and over and over, but he's more willing, more than willing to do it.
• 48:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I find it pretty interesting.
• 48:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: There was a part in there where they talked about how
• 48:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: last year, they had noticed something on film in the final game of the season against Detroit.
• 48:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're Detroit did like some interesting look on defense and then Ben went over that with Caleb and where he should go if he saw that look again and then it actually happened in the playoff game against the Packers.
• 48:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: and it was on the first interception in that game.
• 48:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I pulled up the film and it fell plus and I was like, all right, what happened there?
• 48:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I watched it and in the article he doesn't say who blew the route.
• 49:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: But if you watched the film, it's Luther Bird and actually, and he's motioning to the right and then Caleb motions him back to the left.
• 49:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he goes to him and you can kind of see like Caleb throws to a spot on the field like down the left side line and he expects Luther to break inside and Luther just kind of like stopped running and it was a pick and Ben talked in the article about how that was the best interception that came through the entire season because he did exactly what he had told him to do if he got that look again and he remembered it and he didn't know if he was going to remember and he did and he did exactly what he told him to do.
• 49:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Stuff like that is really encouraging that he's going to make those good snap decisions this year and he's talking as press conferences to about the accuracy and taking the layups and all of that so.
• 49:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, man, just reading that article got me so jacked up and it just reading about what Ben is like.
• 49:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, that this guy's really our head coach, we finally got this right and just how intense he gets.
• 50:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're so early, stays all day, sleeps in his office sometimes.
• 50:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: He wants more than super bowls he's talking about in there.
• 50:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Did you see that thing about how much coffee he drinks?
• 50:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she's during the season, six cups of coffee plus a cold brew and that, yeah, yeah, made me feel, made me feel less bad about my intake for sure.
• 50:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: My thought was, hey, it's just like us teachers.
• 50:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's there's a lot of similarities there, but yeah, you know, he's not having the we're we're not having a stay.
• 50:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Amped up in front of a team of professional athletes, you know, no, no, no, but I drank, I sure drank a lot of coffee brand.
• 50:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, absolutely.
• 50:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I felt vindicated the Ben Johnson does.
• 50:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
• 50:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 50:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I mentioned Xavier on Thomas, who are you really excited to watch this weekend and preseason game one?
• 50:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: The left tackle battle, I want to see.
• 50:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: So obviously, Braxton's been hurt.
• 51:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Jedrick Will has got to start in practice when I was at Karan, has gotten some looks to, when I watched Karan's feet, they didn't look, they didn't look what they need to be.
• 51:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: His feet were not, they didn't have a strong base.
• 51:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he's got all the physical, he is a physically imposing, just a freak, like he looks massive.
• 51:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm looking to see who can, who can hold that edge on the left side.
• 51:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Other than that, I'm really looking forward to seeing, we probably won't see much of the first team defense, but the new additions, Dev and Bush don't think about really looking forward to seeing them.
• 51:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then Jordan Vanderberg, he's really impressed me.
• 51:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's someone that we've been high on.
• 51:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: I want to see him keep making plays.
• 51:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm really high on Jayden Loving too.
• 51:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'd like to see him make him to play as two.
• 51:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: He looks like a beast also, but, yeah, man, I mean, we're with this winning organization.
• 52:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like Ben, he's all about winning at every level.
• 52:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I have no doubt that these guys are going to come ready to play.
• 52:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking forward, you know, how I love running backs.
• 52:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: I thought it interesting that Rochon seems to have that.
• 52:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's really it's third string, but that spot locked up, you know, they brought in Salvin Ahmed, they have Britain brown back, they have Coleman Bennett, and and Rochon's the guy.
• 52:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it'd be interesting to see him, can he carve himself out of role, you know, more of a trusted, you know, dependable, you know, third and short, fourth and short.
• 52:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: player because Ben elated in that article, right?
• 52:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like he wants to be physically dominant and that means short yardage, you know, running the ball, getting the first downs they need to, who's going to be that guy?
• 52:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: If Rochon can be that guy, that'd be something, that's what I thought he was going to be last year and he just wasn't.
• 52:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, the offensive line and then our new additions on defense
• 53:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, with Rochon, we've talked about him in the past on the show like last year and the year before about how we, we're fairly high on him on those short-yarded situations and you don't get a lot of opportunities, mostly special teams.
• 53:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: The audience might be odd here, honestly.
• 53:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, coming to the season.
• 53:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think you'll still maybe there might be some competition there for the number three, but right now he's slotted in there.
• 53:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 53:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'd like to see him with that opportunity.
• 53:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm, yeah, I'm excited to see him get some carries.
• 53:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, same with like Logan Jones, because I expect Logan Jones to take over that center position at some point this year, so just to see how he looks out there for sure.
• 53:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Van and Berg, you mentioned he's he's a guy from me to Barnett the niligarilla right.
• 53:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know.
• 53:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Someone I didn't mention is, yeah, I loved his anecdotes about them and the fight and the AI image if he put up there.
• 53:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but some of that I was really impressed and practice that I also am looking forward to seeing because he didn't get plenty of opportunities is Malik Mahavit.
• 54:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think he looks like a player.
• 54:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: I love Anthony Harris, man.
• 54:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Or sorry, Al Harris.
• 54:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Al Harris is the way he coaches.
• 54:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just watched him at practice.
• 54:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was coaching up all all the guys that the practice squad guys.
• 54:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was in his face like taking time to explain every rep to everybody and Malik Mohammed.
• 54:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: He just looks like a player.
• 54:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was doing really well.
• 54:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's going to get ample opportunities and I'm looking forward to seeing him as well.
• 54:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: But you mentioned Logan Jones.
• 54:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we mentioned for our Patreon supporters, we're gonna do post game shows this year.
• 54:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Those will be bonus shows only behind the Patreon wall.
• 54:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's why we're trying to get you guys a sign up for that because we're gonna do bonus content for you during the regular season.
• 54:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: But we want you guys to, we wanna give you some bonus content on the Patreon side to give you incentive.
• 55:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: So at some point, I think over the next week or so, Brian and I will react.
• 55:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: to the preseason game.
• 55:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what our schedules are.
• 55:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: We got to figure this out off air and during the regular season we're going to do post game shows like right when the games end for the most part this one I don't know if we'll be able to answer.
• 55:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about it, but hopefully we can get something out for the patrons this week.
• 55:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: weekend, we'll talk about that just a brief reaction to what we saw in the preseason game.
• 55:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: So make sure you're signed up over at patreon.com slash bears over beers and we'll be happy to get some bears football around these parts.
• 55:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Preseason or not, that is for sure.
• 55:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: And Brian, the only other thing I wanted to touch on because everybody on social media is talking about it.
• 55:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I see people talking about it on my timeline right now.
• 55:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: was this report that was out there about the bears commenting on the stadium situation.
• 55:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I've seen some more has broken about this in the last hour that we have been on the air.
• 56:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so the first thing I would go to is there's a, there's a really good follow for Illinois politics.
• 56:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: He writes for Capitol News, Illinois is in his branded more.
• 56:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's been on top of this story.
• 56:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he said that what was conveyed to him as George McCaskey and Kevin Warren are having their annual press availability tomorrow where they're expected to address all things bears.
• 56:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: That includes the stadium, but it was emphasized to me that there won't be any major announcements such as finalizing a site.
• 56:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's according to Brendan Moore.
• 56:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then Adam Hogue from CHGO,
• 56:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: retweeted that.
• 56:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he said, for what it's worth, McCaske and Warren spoke at the exact same time last year, two days before the first preseason game, the manager at that time was calling for support ahead of the Illinois Falvito session, which fell in deaf ears.
• 56:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thus the Indiana pivot, here we are, you're later.
• 56:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then he says, as I previously reported on CSGO bears, the significant movement the last two months has actually been here in Illinois where lobbyists have been fired and the NFL has taken on a larger role in interest in the situation will see what is revealed if anything tomorrow.
• 57:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I saw a Brendan Morta.
• 57:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: tweet out earlier too that a source had told him that like everyone this story was out there and everyone was expecting like something on the scale of a 10 out of 10 and what was conveyed to him is it's going to be more like a three out of ten statement on the situation with the stadium.
• 57:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's, you know, I mean, yeah, I mean, it's on going, we don't know what's going to happen.
• 57:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think everybody knows the bears want to build in Illinois.
• 57:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's choice number one.
• 57:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're waiting for the legislature to do something.
• 57:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: They've got a sweet heart deal from Illinois or from Indiana.
• 57:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: And if Indiana ends up being their only choice, they'll go there.
• 57:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: But if Illinois does what they want them to do,
• 57:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: And if they have the same deal from each side, they're going to go Illinois every time.
• 57:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Even if it's not the same deal, which it won't be because Indiana is going to give them more taxpayer dollars.
• 58:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's just the reality of the politics.
• 58:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: But in Illinois, if they give them the tax certainty that they want out there with property taxes, they give them the infrastructure spending, they're going to do our linkedin heights.
• 58:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, there was a report out there from a Twitter user whose name I'm not even going to say because I see him as a bad faith actor in the bear space who's tweeted crazy stuff in the past, he had this tweet out there that, oh, Indiana is going to be finalized and they're even going to add Indiana to the name of the team.
• 58:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: that will not happen.
• 58:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know how much money just the name Chicago Bears is worth.
• 58:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, let's be real Brian.
• 58:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we don't know what's going to happen.
• 58:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think this thing is close to being over.
• 58:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's the never-ending story.
• 58:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I wanted to bring it up because I think anyone that sees a new Bears podcast go up is going to expect us to comment on it.
• 58:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: So
• 58:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's kind of what's out there and that's I mean, that's the most recent news I'm seeing about it.
• 58:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, it was also interesting for me to drive past Hammond, Indiana as I drove to camp and be like, this is a little bit shorter, but you know, so ultimately,
• 59:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: I still would like it to be in Chicago.
• 59:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: I would like it to I'd like them to fix the the stadium downtown.
• 59:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's that would be my dream.
• 59:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: I know it's not possible.
• 59:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I would like to figure something out because that's the experience and if I'm driving 11 and a half hours, you know, it's
• 59:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: What's it going to be an hour and a half less like it's it's not going to what 10 hours versus 11 and a half yeah give me the whole experience and plus I was like where are they going to put anything this this highway yeah this highway because there's no room on either highway there's like
• 59:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: random buildings and and that the just the infrastructure did not look like you can hold it where on the highway I was on and it could be a different highway but Hammond didn't look like a quite the spot but they're going to redo all of that.
• 1:00:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to have to redo the interstate there.
• 1:00:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to cost a fortune.
• 1:00:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean they could pay through it through new toes.
• 1:00:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: I suppose they can tax people of Indiana which this to me has always been the problem with the
• 1:00:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I know they're in trying to entice the bears to build their right across the border.
• 1:00:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they're going to give a bunch of taxpayer dollars, but I don't feel that Indiana is going to benefit off of that because anybody who travels in and, you know, obviously a lot of the bears season take a whole their base is to the west of Chicago and suburbs.
• 1:00:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, but the people who travel in, like people like us, if you're going to a bear's game.
• 1:00:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: You are, if they built a stadium in Hammond, Indiana, you're not going to stay in Hammond, Indiana.
• 1:00:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're going to stay in downtown Chicago because that's where everything is.
• 1:00:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's where all the fun stuff to do is.
• 1:00:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, if they built a stadium there, they would build from some infrastructure to get there easily from downtown.
• 1:00:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, everyone's staying downtown Chicago, going to take transit over to Hammond, Indiana.
• 1:01:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: And none of the spending is going to happen in the state of Indiana outside of game day.
• 1:01:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: So why is that a worthy investment for their taxpayers?
• 1:01:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: And from why I had seen there had been some pushback from now from the taxpayers on wait a second.
• 1:01:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: We don't know we want to give them this money.
• 1:01:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's just a lot of loose ends here to me.
• 1:01:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, and it's just yeah, that's that's the biggest thing is like the benefit to their taxpayers doesn't seem worth it because everyone's going to be in Chicago.
• 1:01:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: The other thing is they build a campus with like a Chicago Bears Museum and all of that.
• 1:01:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: just doesn't really make sense to have it over there, man.
• 1:01:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: And like you just drove up the lake forest, it's so far from Lake Forest, especially with traffic to get there.
• 1:01:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're talking, Lake Forest is way north of Chicago.
• 1:01:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then they're going to be south east of downtown Chicago and yeah, like if you're in Chicago, it's I think it's good.
• 1:01:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: It would hamper the attendance out of bears museum to be like, oh, the driver to Indiana to go to that, I don't want to do that never mind.
• 1:02:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I just think long term my personal opinion is it would be a mistake to build it there taxpayer money or not.
• 1:02:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just think the location is not great.
• 1:02:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, I think you're right.
• 1:02:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's kind of the obvious elephant in the room is that's that's why it's not happened because I think Illinois legislatures know that too, you know, like it's yeah.
• 1:02:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:02:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's it's the muddy situation.
• 1:02:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: The thing that pisses me off is you see these other stadiums popping off left and right, you know, like the new bill stadium, which, by the way, is an open air stadium looks awesome.
• 1:02:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I consider the bills to be the bears equivalent in the AFC, and, you know, here we are, you know, fighting over where we're going to build a dome stadium, but
• 1:02:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's a tough part because a lot of these places have either shovels in the ground already or have actual, actual stadiums and we were talking about it first, and I still not even shoveling the ground or determined where we're going to put the shovels in the ground yet.
• 1:03:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's the frustrating part.
• 1:03:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: for me, but ultimately, man, you know, I don't really care.
• 1:03:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: You and I are both on the season ticket weightless and the success that they're having right now means even though we're like within a thousand or so, we're probably never going to see that anyway, but we have a better chance, you know, if it's still in Chicago.
• 1:03:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, delay all you want, because I don't care.
• 1:03:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: What anybody says, man, soldier feel is, is
• 1:03:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's an unreal, unforgettable, nothing like it experience.
• 1:03:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: And can't wait to see it this year.
• 1:03:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully we can do that together or with some of our listeners or if not, then maybe a stadium across the country.
• 1:03:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, Chicago, man, great football city and great football town for sure.
• 1:03:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: That was the other thing, as Ben had a really good quote about Soldier Field in that article on the athletic today, talking about the playoff game against the Rams, I'll just read it.
• 1:04:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: He talked about how he didn't like his mindset of how he called that game as a play caller.
• 1:04:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: He said, I should have changed the mindset.
• 1:04:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know now that the power of Soldier Field, particularly at that time of year, is a real thing.
• 1:04:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it should be a major advantage for us, provided we recognize it and play with a certain style.
• 1:04:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yes, yes indeed.
• 1:04:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, guys.
• 1:04:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think we hit our agenda, Brian.
• 1:04:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, most important thing is this beer right here.
• 1:04:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: How much you have less?
• 1:04:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I like to pretty good this week.
• 1:04:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: I like a couple of swigs left.
• 1:04:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Look at what's interesting.
• 1:04:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's a good beer.
• 1:04:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:04:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:04:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're pretty even.
• 1:04:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: My arm.
• 1:04:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Do we have the exact hold that next to your label?
• 1:04:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Turn it to the label.
• 1:04:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're biting.
• 1:04:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm being you by a little bit Brian.
• 1:04:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: What has happened?
• 1:04:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: You should have nursed in these things.
• 1:04:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Mine's further down the glass.
• 1:05:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're both nursing him as we'll say.
• 1:05:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: The other thing we talked about last podcast, two weeks ago, was that once this Patreon gets rolling in the regular season, we're going to be doing a post-podcast with our listeners, like a Zoom session, where it's going to be like the after hours, or round two, or whatever.
• 1:05:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: So just another reason to check out our Patreon, all the benefits we are offering, because that's going to be getting going here once the regular season starts, and we're looking forward to talking to some of you more,
• 1:05:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: If you've ever been, I don't know about you, Ryan, but you've ever, ever in college got close with the bartenders at a bar.
• 1:05:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: And they close the bar down.
• 1:05:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Everybody had to go home, but you got to stay.
• 1:05:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's what our Patreon members are going to get.
• 1:05:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Everybody else is going to get, you're going to have to go home, but you get to stay and hang out.
• 1:05:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: We'll even crack open a new one with you.
• 1:05:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's what's going to be like.
• 1:05:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
• 1:05:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Alright guys, so yeah, check that out and of course, subscribe to the YouTube channel here while you're at it.
• 1:06:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Of course, we got all kinds of great bears content going.
• 1:06:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Almost every day, during the regular season, every single day from all the content creators here.
• 1:06:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: We just had one from Taylor Doll earlier today with Adam Jones from CHGO, so make sure you check that out.
• 1:06:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Of course, making monsters is always a great watch or listen, depending on how you
• 1:06:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Bear's banter, always phenomenal with Bill Zimmerman, mentioned Baron Balanced, J.B. and Lester, must listen for me every single week.
• 1:06:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: We got Mack and Reed, of course, on the channel as well.
• 1:06:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I'm sure it will be a post game show on Second City Gridiron as well this year, as always.
• 1:06:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Shout out to Ross for help me around downtown, by the way, that was clutch, but what was I gonna say?
• 1:06:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Did you help with the RISER did you just text him?
• 1:06:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't get to meet up.
• 1:06:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: He had a work function, so I didn't get to meet up with him, but he was helping me figure out where to park and all that nonsense.
• 1:07:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, I will say a lot of his advice ended up getting thrown away because my wife had other things to say about it, which ended up ruining our plans, but that's a whole nother story.
• 1:07:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: But, but remember, oh, the thing I was going to say is another person that keeps on elevating their game weekend and we got is Robo Rattalli Grant.
• 1:07:23
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• 1:07:24
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• 1:07:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: I got some comments on my hat when I was,
• 1:07:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: at Soldier Feet or at House Hall for Training Camp and yeah he's he's got some great stuff so so check it out and I wore my I don't like that team shirt to the the sky and the fever basketball game and people were kept looking at me and I got I got a few smiles but mostly like the hills they weren't that sure for I wore I walked into like this bachelor party with it bachelor at party wedding thing downtown there's so much stuff downtown it's like always something
• 1:08:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I have like, we don't like that team or I don't like that champion.
• 1:08:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was.
• 1:08:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Have you been in the United Center before?
• 1:08:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, it's first time.
• 1:08:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 1:08:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: What'd you think?
• 1:08:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, first time.
• 1:08:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was nice.
• 1:08:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it was, you know, to me, it was just a typical stadium experience.
• 1:08:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of annoying at the end of the night.
• 1:08:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: They didn't let me and my daughters go down the elevator, but whatever.
• 1:08:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was, it was a typical stadium.
• 1:08:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing fancy about it.
• 1:08:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: It seemed like it was decent enough tickets or sorry seats and reviewing.
• 1:08:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: I liked my favorite part was all the black hawks and bulls bares up top.
• 1:08:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: That was a
• 1:08:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was going to say it's cathedral of the NBA if you're if you're a bowls fan.
• 1:08:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean every time I go there I'm just staring at the banners and thinking about childhood watching those teams and yeah, no, yeah too, man.
• 1:08:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm pretty sure the United Center is the biggest capacity arena in the country.
• 1:08:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it wasn't full.
• 1:08:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't.
• 1:08:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: But there was a lot of people in the upper bowl.
• 1:09:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: But it was, I mean, it's different.
• 1:09:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: There was like the sky, or sky stuff, it wasn't bull.
• 1:09:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: So if it had like the big bull, you know, in the mid-court, that would have given me some nostalgia.
• 1:09:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: But it was, it was cool, it was good basketball.
• 1:09:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was actually a really good game, too.
• 1:09:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Came down to the wire.
• 1:09:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: I wish Angel Reese was still in Chicago, but...
• 1:09:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now we're getting off bears topic so I just I was curious we thought the UC because I mean I'm a bull's fan so I love the UC, but I just looked it up.
• 1:09:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, United Center and the Greensboro Colosseum are tied 23,500 for the largest capacity arena in the U.S.
• 1:09:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think the Palace of Arbor and Hills the old one used to be a little bit more than that, but they tore that one down.
• 1:09:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think the UC is the biggest
• 1:09:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Physically like physical size biggest dream the United States.
• 1:09:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean every time I go on there I'm like this place that's cavernous, but yeah anyways, yeah three stories Yeah, but Yeah, it was fun.
• 1:10:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was it was a great experience unforgettable Chicago experience overall.
• 1:10:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: I had to get gas.
• 1:10:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was on E downtown and there was one station downtown
• 1:10:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I missed it and I didn't want to like, you turned downtown.
• 1:10:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I was like, I'll hit them away out.
• 1:10:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I, I'll just say I got off on an exit on the wrong part of town.
• 1:10:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'll just say that.
• 1:10:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: And, and I got gas, but it was, it was a little sketch.
• 1:10:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: You were in and out, you know, in and out.
• 1:10:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 1:10:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 1:10:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 1:10:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:10:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just like us.
• 1:10:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:10:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: In and out.
• 1:10:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes, sir.
• 1:10:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was good, though.
• 1:10:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was good.
• 1:10:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, guys.
• 1:10:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, hi, we appreciate everyone who tuned in this week, whether you're watching on the podcast feeds, and we will be back very soon.
• 1:10:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then, of course, every single Wednesday night during the regular season.
• 1:10:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: So until next time, bear down everybody and take care.
• 1:11:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Cheers.