Latest / Saints Block Party Podcast / Ep 220 - "Hope For The Future" Saints vs Falcons Week 18 RECAP
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- 0:00[SPEAKER_01]: High-stagnum music, no intro, we are back.
- 0:06[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for joining us today.
- 0:09[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for joining us today.
- 0:10[SPEAKER_01]: I'll see you coming at you to conclude.
- 0:15[SPEAKER_01]: include the 2025 NFL regular season for the Saints at least week 18.
- 0:21[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, they didn't get it done.
- 0:25[SPEAKER_01]: The Saints get swept by the Falcons.
- 0:27[SPEAKER_01]: Leave for the first time since 2016, I believe the stat was losing to the Saints.
- 0:32[SPEAKER_01]: 19, 19, 17.
- 0:36[SPEAKER_01]: today.
- 0:36[SPEAKER_01]: Against the Falcons, um, uh, already a shout out, uh, from Dom Spirrow, who that, who I would, we both follow on to her, I believe.
- 0:47[SPEAKER_01]: She said, I appreciate all the season.
- 0:48[SPEAKER_01]: Y'all helped me laughing and informed.
- 0:50[SPEAKER_01]: We hope we have hope again.
- 0:52[SPEAKER_01]: Who that?
- 0:54[SPEAKER_02]: Who that?
- 0:55[SPEAKER_01]: Let's love.
- 0:56[SPEAKER_01]: Appreciate you.
- 0:56[SPEAKER_01]: Appreciate you.
- 1:00[SPEAKER_01]: Um, um, what's
- 1:06[SPEAKER_01]: So when we recorded the preview pod on Tuesday, happy new year, everyone.
- 1:13[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, happy new year.
- 1:14[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 1:14[SPEAKER_01]: Appreciate y'all.
- 1:15[SPEAKER_01]: When we record the preview pod on Tuesday, recorded on Tuesday, we didn't want to record it on Wednesday, which was New Year's Eve.
- 1:25[SPEAKER_01]: then the whole thing was going for the lava came out.
- 1:28[SPEAKER_01]: So a lot of time has passed since the time we were at the preview pod to the game actually.
- 1:32[SPEAKER_01]: So if you've been living on the rock, Chris a lava at like the back injury, I believe it was Wednesday.
- 1:40[SPEAKER_01]: This upcoming this this week that just passed, he was do not practice and then comes out.
- 1:45[SPEAKER_01]: They had a blood clot issue that went to his lungs and was hospitalized and just burrowed.
- 1:52[SPEAKER_01]: Just a most ancient, like ever, I've ever brought out of what?
- 1:57[SPEAKER_02]: What?
- 1:58[SPEAKER_02]: A book?
- 1:59[SPEAKER_01]: A panel member?
- 2:01[SPEAKER_01]: Haven't one of his best seasons of his career.
- 2:05[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
- 2:06[SPEAKER_01]: But just I'm glad it was caught.
- 2:08[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, we're glad.
- 2:09[SPEAKER_01]: Now, the glass caught, you know, things like he's going to do a four cover and all that.
- 2:14[SPEAKER_01]: And so going into this game, like Mason Tipton was down and yeah, Chris a lot of a down.
- 2:22[SPEAKER_01]: the the the weapons for for shook coming into this game was Kevin Austin Jr. Ronnie Bell John Johnson at Titan.
- 2:34[SPEAKER_01]: Just Tory but Tory.
- 2:37[SPEAKER_02]: Tory.
- 2:38[SPEAKER_02]: Tory.
- 2:41[SPEAKER_02]: Tory.
- 2:42[SPEAKER_02]: Tory.
- 2:45[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my what in the hell.
- 2:48[SPEAKER_02]: Roll the ball out.
- 2:49[SPEAKER_02]: Go get it done, buddy.
- 2:51[SPEAKER_01]: Go get this stuff.
- 2:55[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and I think for me, regardless of that outcome of the game, the big thing for me was,
- 3:03[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to see growth from both killing and shot compared to their first meeting against the Falcons against a defense that we've seen this season can play the thanks to tough, can play top to your teams tough and with what they were able to show on Sunday.
- 3:23[SPEAKER_01]: I just as a whole.
- 3:24[SPEAKER_01]: these last games.
- 3:26[SPEAKER_01]: You have to have a lot of hope and excitement and optimism going into the 2,026 season if you're a Saints fan, because
- 3:37[SPEAKER_01]: Bruh, like, there was some plays that it was, it was, it was a very, is the, the, the, the, the, the script was so, they, you missed it.
- 3:46[SPEAKER_01]: You missed it.
- 3:46[SPEAKER_01]: They had a great pass to Joanne to start the game to kind of jumpstart them because they, you know, there's their first scripts have always been just met and just the, the one play we've been just like just kind of like, oh, this nigga just hold on to the ball.
- 4:02[SPEAKER_01]: happen, bro.
- 4:02[SPEAKER_01]: Cause it fumbles and then later in the game, he makes this like fucking amazing, like, amazing.
- 4:08[SPEAKER_01]: What does one of the best catches of the year?
- 4:10[SPEAKER_01]: Like, but the best catches for Australia's player, so for Australia's player, so for Australia's player.
- 4:15[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway.
- 4:20[SPEAKER_01]: It's the most short.
- 4:21[SPEAKER_01]: If you want to get the full dual-on experience, this game, this game, right here.
- 4:26[SPEAKER_01]: Watch this game.
- 4:28[SPEAKER_01]: But the amount of throws that Chuck had in this game, it, you know, with, yeah, Kevin Banks at some point in this game.
- 4:37[SPEAKER_01]: He goes out with the ankle injury.
- 4:39[SPEAKER_01]: He's gone for the rest of the game yet.
- 4:41[SPEAKER_01]: A scene richers go out, he's playing a left tackle.
- 4:43[SPEAKER_01]: Caesar was in there at right guard, which I don't know if that's upgrade, over wood and Sherman, the way, whatever.
- 4:49[SPEAKER_01]: But the way he was able to still play with the pressure, with the defense, he was going to get to Falcons.
- 4:55[SPEAKER_01]: because that's the thing we we've been wanting to see is right when that competition level defensively goes up a notch and I get it I'm not going to make an excuse to form he had a very crucial interception that essentially like lost in the game what have you
- 5:10[SPEAKER_01]: Some of that's on shock, some of that's just, I think, some of that, like, they just kept, killing kept spamming that thing, got damn bad.
- 5:15[SPEAKER_02]: Man, play, burn.
- 5:16[SPEAKER_02]: Double post, I mean, even Mark's share, even he was calling it out before that it is such, and he was like, okay, they keep running that double, double slant.
- 5:26[SPEAKER_02]: Now it's time to hang it up, like, yeah, hang it up, cause it's just, you know, keep doing it, and it's something of veteran like DL for Bro, you've got, like, eventually, like, you're gonna run that again, I'm gonna, I'm gonna take that.
- 5:39[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying it's similar, but just like having that, it's kind of like how Tracy Porter knew in the interception the same thing.
- 5:48[SPEAKER_01]: At some point, Y'all keep running the same set, the same play, I'm gonna jump it.
- 5:53[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the story.
- 5:55[SPEAKER_01]: But going to the bigger point is that he made these insane big boy throws.
- 6:03[SPEAKER_01]: Bro, big, big boy throws.
- 6:11[SPEAKER_01]: That just loved me like just a gasp with I was just a gasp like the fourth down to John on the side like we And these stoves to he saw it to his left on fourth and four whatever.
- 6:22[SPEAKER_02]: What Cross his body and anything on a rope on a rope Thank God you want me to catch him balance feet down total
- 6:35[SPEAKER_02]: This is beautiful bro, like that was beautiful.
- 6:37[SPEAKER_02]: He had the one, the touch well, the touch down there, I taken away because of camera with the, all the plethora of offensive passes.
- 6:45[SPEAKER_02]: Offensive fairs, yeah, yeah, that is.
- 6:48[SPEAKER_02]: And even that, like we had three dudes hanging on him and he's able to get the ball off on a nice and awesome junior to Kevin Austin Jr. Who Jesus, like, it was just one of those games where it's like, man, we lost, but,
- 7:04[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we got something here boy, we got something here real and going against it like you say going against this defense is what made it really Point because you know early was we're gonna go.
- 7:16[SPEAKER_02]: Let's take your early on That's it brought it up like you know in the zoom like man we want to see him against
- 7:23[SPEAKER_02]: like a better pass rush and he's looking so good early but then again like the early they've looked bad early against everybody.
- 7:29[SPEAKER_02]: No matter who the man is.
- 7:30[SPEAKER_02]: No matter who the fuck it is.
- 7:33[SPEAKER_01]: Some reason is just like once crunch time just comes and he settles and he settles in it's just like a it's like a light goes on, right?
- 7:41[SPEAKER_01]: So it's a it's an amazing trait that um that he has um Wesley said
- 7:54[SPEAKER_01]: Um, talk about taste them going to the hospital.
- 7:56[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, what's he said?
- 7:57[SPEAKER_01]: What happened to taste them?
- 7:58[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm texting me.
- 7:59[SPEAKER_01]: He was 10 to the hospital.
- 8:01[SPEAKER_02]: I know I know he did leave a game yet.
- 8:02[SPEAKER_02]: It's shoulder.
- 8:03[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't know he went to the hospital.
- 8:05[SPEAKER_02]: Damn.
- 8:06[SPEAKER_02]: Hope you're all right.
- 8:08[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 8:08[SPEAKER_01]: Like that would be you.
- 8:09[SPEAKER_01]: That would be.
- 8:10[SPEAKER_01]: sucky way for him to end his life.
- 8:13[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe his NFL career, just like, it's like that.
- 8:17[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out to a host way for 99 super chat.
- 8:20[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
- 8:20[SPEAKER_01]: He said the thumb will gave me Jerrett Cook flashbacks.
- 8:23[SPEAKER_01]: Appreciate what y'all done this off.
- 8:24[SPEAKER_01]: He can't wait.
- 8:25[SPEAKER_01]: Can't wait for the juice.
- 8:26[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully.
- 8:29[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully.
- 8:33[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, Wesley, I thought made a or it was Dave Raney made a good point.
- 8:37[SPEAKER_01]: He said those interception, but then bounces right back to next drive with some unreal froze loved it loved it like the intersection like sucks happens.
- 8:47[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, like I was like, okay, you know, it happens, but they come back after they drive.
- 8:52[SPEAKER_02]: for it and hit that touch down too.
- 8:55[SPEAKER_02]: Ronnie Bell?
- 8:56[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Ronnie, oh, oh.
- 8:58[SPEAKER_02]: Wasn't even on the team two weeks ago, bro.
- 9:01[SPEAKER_02]: Like, Ronnie Bell, Ronnie Bell.
- 9:05[SPEAKER_02]: Can't even pull up a Google follow.
- 9:06[SPEAKER_02]: How to do that.
- 9:09[SPEAKER_02]: And he dropped in the bucket and Brian Bell me in a great cast, like I'm a great candidate.
- 9:13[SPEAKER_02]: Great cast.
- 9:14[SPEAKER_01]: Great cast.
- 9:14[SPEAKER_02]: When I'm getting out, like, great cast.
- 9:17[SPEAKER_02]: But like, just to have the, you know,
- 9:22[SPEAKER_02]: Keep on just keep on swing.
- 9:24[SPEAKER_02]: I'll myself spot for quarterbacks is the ones that just keep pulling the trigger per quarterbacks that keep pulling the trigger I always know don't matter who even you know, we go on quarterbacks if you just keep on firing Yeah, I can't stand quarterbacks that just
- 9:40[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, they started gripping a ball in the inside of it, and he escaped attacks.
- 9:46[SPEAKER_01]: Those those those 20 those teddy bridge waters stars had a few.
- 9:50[SPEAKER_02]: But I like the revision of the history.
- 9:53[SPEAKER_02]: I remember being very, very annoyed.
- 9:55[SPEAKER_02]: I remember.
- 9:56[SPEAKER_02]: But it was like, but like, Tyler said he's going to keep on firing, right?
- 10:00[SPEAKER_02]: That's, that's a great like you said it's a great treat and like as a fan.
- 10:05[SPEAKER_02]: of football team, you really want that because you feel like you always have a chance.
- 10:11[SPEAKER_02]: Now, so, and this, like we said, this is with his plan with not even a pre-season squad.
- 10:17[SPEAKER_02]: He's plan with the fourth quarter of the fourth pre-season game, pre-season squad.
- 10:23[SPEAKER_02]: Like the guys are just not even gonna be on practice quads next week, you know what I'm saying?
- 10:28[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that's what he was plan with the day bra.
- 10:31[SPEAKER_02]: And they'll be able to go and just compete at least and be in the game.
- 10:34[SPEAKER_01]: not get blown out like I said you know more victories with everybody like it's close to a more victory I put it like that it is it's this is one of the few games since the winning streak started they essentially had that three turnovers they had the interception eighty-three that the the force the pump block yeah yeah and up do I humble the draw for thank you that's a three
- 11:02[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of why they lost his game, a lot of it, you can really point to special teams, if you really think, man, Charlie Smith missed the 57-yard field goal, that the plot block on special teams that led to the, was that the only Atlanta touchdown, I think that was the only Atlanta touchdown, the only one, the only down the field, short field, and so, I want to give Grant,
- 11:30[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, I don't know if you still listen or you form a patreon made this point about Kellon died think he made this point on Kellon and on Twitter I think it's a very good point in terms of Go on into next season right
- 11:44[SPEAKER_01]: For Kevin to take that next step as a head coach, the things that we've seen him do is that he tends to eventually make the right decision, but he does it like at a snail's pace.
- 11:54[SPEAKER_01]: Feel like he has to make those decisions quicker, right?
- 12:02[SPEAKER_01]: The Rams special teams was asked this season.
- 12:05[SPEAKER_01]: The Rams fired their special teams coach weeks ago.
- 12:09[SPEAKER_01]: Quick, like those are the things that have to happen.
- 12:15[SPEAKER_01]: has to happen like you can't be waiting, hoping like, and I think, I don't know if that's part like maybe part of his personality, like same thing like break groupie, he miss like, it's all this like, he needs to kind of like wait to see it happen over and over and over and over and tell it's like, okay, I can't do it like, no, no, no, no, no, no, like, cut the head of his, it's probably got to get head of things, you know?
- 12:39[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, not bad, special teams have just been up.
- 12:43[SPEAKER_02]: been a joke all season.
- 12:45[SPEAKER_02]: They've been not good.
- 12:46[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know where they rank, uh, but got to be in the bottom.
- 12:50[SPEAKER_01]: I think deviate order to relieve has them in the, like, 30, 31, 32, like off the roof.
- 12:56[SPEAKER_02]: Just awful, but like you got, you have to improve.
- 12:59[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and look,
- 13:00[SPEAKER_02]: It takes the young coaches a lot of times, don't focus on that area, because it's just kind of a forgettable, but it's so important.
- 13:09[SPEAKER_02]: Even for fans, we forget about it sometimes.
- 13:10[SPEAKER_02]: We don't even mention it, but it's like, one of those things you've got to have in order, man.
- 13:14[SPEAKER_02]: You've got to have in order because it will cause you games.
- 13:17[SPEAKER_02]: Special teams has caused us games this year.
- 13:19[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?
- 13:21[SPEAKER_02]: Literally, like literally, probably could have two or three more wins if your special teams were in order.
- 13:30[SPEAKER_02]: That's neither here nor there, but other than that man, it was just, it was a fun game because both teams were trying to win.
- 13:38[SPEAKER_02]: Both teams eliminated from the playoffs.
- 13:41[SPEAKER_02]: Two of the nine playing teams are watching, you know, wait, let's, we're out from.
- 13:47[SPEAKER_02]: That's weird.
- 13:48[SPEAKER_02]: So they could know who's going, who's going to win the division?
- 13:51[SPEAKER_02]: It was just, it was just, it was for a man, and it's like I said, but Titus, tell us, just knowing that we got a quarterback that's going to give us a chance in the end.
- 14:00[SPEAKER_02]: No matter who you got out there, it just makes it exciting, Burr.
- 14:05[SPEAKER_01]: It does.
- 14:06[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see, Demon, Jayce, 49 out of Super Chat, appreciate you, Demon.
- 14:10[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, Demon.
- 14:10[SPEAKER_01]: This hopefully is going to be his worst supporting cast.
- 14:14[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully.
- 14:14[SPEAKER_01]: Paul, dog, ball, 65, 499, Super Chat.
- 14:18[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
- 14:19[SPEAKER_01]: big thanks to both for you for the time knowledge and energy you're bringing to the Saints y'all making being a fan even better man that means a lot to appreciate a thunder span appreciate man for real because I mean we just
- 14:35[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we just do what we do.
- 14:36[SPEAKER_01]: We've been doing it for quite a while, but that hit that hit home.
- 14:39[SPEAKER_01]: Are you saying John Butler?
- 14:42[SPEAKER_01]: So this is it.
- 14:44[SPEAKER_01]: There's so many things we can talk about.
- 14:45[SPEAKER_01]: No, John.
- 14:47[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, he had said in a chat, which I think is such an important point.
- 14:50[SPEAKER_01]: I think maybe a couple, maybe two, two weeks ago or so, that
- 14:58[SPEAKER_01]: Cam and Demario leaving the team would cost it would leave the team with cost the Saints negative $30 million in dead cap space Also, can we talk about the fact that both Cam Jordan and Tationung have double digit sex this season and to miss the first five weeks of the season unbelievable If you want to talk and I'm I feel like I'm a
- 15:24[SPEAKER_01]: No, no disrespect to anyone who has ADHD, if like I'm going all over it in terms of this episode right now It has been a very long time since I've seen a defensive in performance.
- 15:36[SPEAKER_01]: I can't like what Chase Young did to take Matthews today, bro?
- 15:40[SPEAKER_01]: I'm dressed him all day.
- 15:42[SPEAKER_01]: I'm dressed him, bro Nigger it was
- 15:48[SPEAKER_01]: It let me speechless.
- 15:50[SPEAKER_01]: What like he, he demolished Jake Matthews from the first snap.
- 15:57[SPEAKER_01]: It was every snap.
- 16:00[SPEAKER_01]: It was, he could, you should have had a force fumble.
- 16:03[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how you don't call that force fumble.
- 16:07[SPEAKER_02]: On court cousins.
- 16:07[SPEAKER_02]: It was a fumble.
- 16:09[SPEAKER_02]: It was a fumble.
- 16:10[SPEAKER_02]: No question.
- 16:11[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Gabriel, even to the point like,
- 16:14[SPEAKER_02]: And came through in the clutch times too.
- 16:16[SPEAKER_02]: Like it came through in the clutch times.
- 16:18[SPEAKER_02]: Got some sex and some hits at the right time.
- 16:22[SPEAKER_02]: He was even like, it's just a run.
- 16:24[SPEAKER_02]: Yet a big play against B's on.
- 16:27[SPEAKER_02]: He got in the backfield.
- 16:29[SPEAKER_02]: He was playing the day boy.
- 16:30[SPEAKER_02]: Like to go to B playing, you know, in a minute, pretty much a meaningless game at the end of the season and playing like that man.
- 16:38[SPEAKER_02]: That was just good to see, for like, for him.
- 16:40[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?
- 16:42[SPEAKER_01]: And a great defensive game plan by Brandon Staley, who comes this day, they completely negated B. John Robinson, the entire game.
- 16:52[SPEAKER_02]: That was like that was very fascinating to me.
- 16:55[SPEAKER_02]: That was fascinating because I kept waiting, okay, B's on about the pop one here.
- 16:59[SPEAKER_02]: He bought the pop one here and he just never happened.
- 17:01[SPEAKER_02]: He just never happened man.
- 17:03[SPEAKER_02]: They played a real good plan to stop him.
- 17:06[SPEAKER_02]: Rollin' my theory that no brand to see.
- 17:09[SPEAKER_01]: I think I think it's right, bro.
- 17:12[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's right, bro.
- 17:12[SPEAKER_01]: Right, bro.
- 17:13[SPEAKER_01]: Right, bro.
- 17:14[SPEAKER_01]: That run defense looking pristine, it's suited for everything.
- 17:17[SPEAKER_01]: Got out that bench, bro.
- 17:18[SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy, it's crazy, man.
- 17:21[SPEAKER_02]: But other than that, like the defense lead enough for them to win, man.
- 17:26[SPEAKER_02]: It just unfortunately, the offense was so short in and like, I'm not giving them excuses, but it's like, right, damn.
- 17:33[SPEAKER_02]: This is absurd like it's just got to what's the worst taste of it.
- 17:37[SPEAKER_02]: I don't like okay, this is just this is absurd like we We are ready to the point where it's like we need taste of now.
- 17:44[SPEAKER_02]: Like we need them like right meaningful snaps to taste them.
- 17:47[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know Good I was gonna say just keeping with the same theme of the defense as well Call Grannerson big creep show showed up like hell
- 18:02[SPEAKER_01]: I came out of nowhere, bro.
- 18:05[SPEAKER_02]: That shit Loki annoyed me with.
- 18:07[SPEAKER_02]: I couldn't have done nothing since September, bro.
- 18:10[SPEAKER_02]: And this dude made, like, literally one of the best interceptors I've ever seen by like a defensive line.
- 18:15[SPEAKER_02]: One of the best, like, he's resting up, then reaches back and catches it.
- 18:20[SPEAKER_02]: What the heck did they got?
- 18:21[SPEAKER_02]: Holy shit.
- 18:21[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he's eating, he's getting precious snacks.
- 18:26[SPEAKER_01]: blowing up running bats like it was like bro where are you been for three months like two and a months where have you been bro he had he had a he had a decent game last last week but then today did just it's gonna be man this off season for the Saints to leave out today they're really completely devastated because like you know they I can see them
- 18:49[SPEAKER_01]: I would, this is not any inside information, this is not sourced, this is just common since it just, it cap space wise makes more sense for them to bring back.
- 19:00[SPEAKER_01]: Demario for sure, Camus is a little trickier, but like, it just makes cap space sense for them to bring both of them back if they can get them back on like a one-year deal that makes sense for both of them.
- 19:13[SPEAKER_01]: That said, like if I'm them,
- 19:16[SPEAKER_01]: kind of one of those things where you kind of have to if a player has shown you who they are, like you kind of have to believe it at some point.
- 19:22[SPEAKER_01]: And like for me, like Granderson, like he kind of has this trend, like the first two, three weeks he starts off hot as shit, just fist growing.
- 19:29[SPEAKER_01]: Then there's always been like that, bro.
- 19:32[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing, just nothing.
- 19:36[SPEAKER_01]: But, oh, shout out.
- 19:38[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
- 19:38[SPEAKER_01]: This is going to segue into our next little segment.
- 19:40[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out to
- 19:46[SPEAKER_01]: But Kevin said, give me y'all a flower for cover in the same time.
- 19:49[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you're a keeper that's the entertainment.
- 19:51[SPEAKER_01]: Appreciate you, man.
- 19:52[SPEAKER_01]: So if you have just found us or listening to us for the first time, or I guess recently, are you Kevin, who's a part of our Patreon?
- 20:03[SPEAKER_01]: We do have a Patreon Patreon.com slash Slings Block Party.
- 20:06[SPEAKER_01]: You can become a Patreon as just,
- 20:08[SPEAKER_01]: low as a dollar a month even though the regular season's about is essentially done for the Saints we are about to kick it high and to give off-season off-season content and so our due Kevin who became a patreon last year big part of our discord he wanted to get something back to our community and and you know everything that Ryan and I have cultivated
- 20:34[SPEAKER_01]: being such an integral part of our discord in our community.
- 20:39[SPEAKER_01]: So he did, he announced a Tyler Chuck jersey giveaway for all of our patrons.
- 20:47[SPEAKER_01]: And so he did those spins during the game today against the Falcons.
- 20:52[SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm going to play those spiners.
- 20:55[SPEAKER_01]: I actually have the video of them right now.
- 20:58[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to play.
- 21:03[SPEAKER_03]: Let's see.
- 21:06[SPEAKER_01]: What would do that in a little bit?
- 21:07[SPEAKER_01]: But anything else from this game, well, not from the game, but just anything else that just, no, no, no, I mean, I'll address to me, bro, like he needs to be on his team.
- 21:26[SPEAKER_02]: He needs to be in camp next year.
- 21:28[SPEAKER_02]: I put it like that.
- 21:29[SPEAKER_02]: He needs to be in camp next year.
- 21:32[SPEAKER_02]: He ran so hard.
- 21:34[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, he not only ran hard, but like, got so much, um, actually that wasn't there, like there wasn't blocked, um, I just loved the way he played or loved the way he played, like it doesn't have like number one back ability probably not, but man, like if you like a crutch time bro, you need you just need some yards bro, I love going to him.
- 21:56[SPEAKER_02]: He just was, I just loved the way he plays, man.
- 21:59[SPEAKER_02]: I loved the
- 22:01[SPEAKER_02]: that needs to get done ASAP.
- 22:03[SPEAKER_02]: It's just kind of track whatever they got to do, whatever it is.
- 22:06[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of just bring them on back because to me, I'm moving on from a Kendrick Miller like I'm just like, I'm kind of, I'm over with that just experiment.
- 22:16[SPEAKER_02]: Audrey, Devin Nill, draft pick, Camaro, and whatever else, you know what I'm saying?
- 22:22[SPEAKER_02]: Figure it out.
- 22:23[SPEAKER_01]: It's interesting because Kendrick's going to his, like next season will be his like his fourth and essentially his final final season.
- 22:32[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, estimate just has like spit that's one thing as like I guess one Chris is on my head of that final drive is that man, they started running that ball.
- 22:43[SPEAKER_01]: Like they were they was leaning on the Falcons and not only I don't know what like possessed Kellon like it was working, bro.
- 22:50[SPEAKER_01]: It was working.
- 22:51[SPEAKER_01]: It took a, uh, Tyler shook head like a long, how long was that right?
- 22:55[SPEAKER_01]: You had a long 30 plus yarder.
- 22:58[SPEAKER_01]: It was, I thought you were going to take that all the way.
- 23:00[SPEAKER_01]: I was going to house it, bro.
- 23:01[SPEAKER_01]: I thought he was going to house a wolf.
- 23:03[SPEAKER_01]: If he went to house that, he would have won.
- 23:04[SPEAKER_01]: Offence the rookie of the year.
- 23:05[SPEAKER_02]: I saw the guy he would have had to, but then after that, they did the double slam in the section, uh, you know, is what it is.
- 23:15[SPEAKER_02]: But, oh, man, it just got excitement.
- 23:18[SPEAKER_02]: I was driving a call like, oh, shit.
- 23:20[SPEAKER_02]: They're really doing this, like they're really gonna do this, right?
- 23:23[SPEAKER_01]: One thing I like, regardless of the outcome, I think we should, regardless of, especially since Chuck had been put in, the resiliency from this team that Kelli Moore hasn't been still with them.
- 23:41[SPEAKER_01]: It has been impressive, like we've talked about in this podcast, that kind of notion of like,
- 23:50[SPEAKER_01]: team down six points team like six points bro team down 10.
- 23:54[SPEAKER_01]: Do you know how bad it is that as a fan base at one point in time that we thought like touch that I if the team score other team score to touch down it was over.
- 24:02[SPEAKER_02]: So.
- 24:03[SPEAKER_01]: Correct.
- 24:04[SPEAKER_01]: Correct.
- 24:06[SPEAKER_01]: That's how bad she was.
- 24:08[SPEAKER_01]: So the fact that anything like you said is they're still kind of like this.
- 24:13[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to use it, we're actually PTSD, because I don't want to diminish actually PTSD, but this is like a pseudo PTSD that kind of comes with it.
- 24:21[SPEAKER_01]: But they just keep fighting, bro.
- 24:23[SPEAKER_01]: They just keep fighting.
- 24:25[SPEAKER_01]: And one thing that's been happening since this winning streak happened before today is that the defense has played a lot of complimentary football.
- 24:36[SPEAKER_01]: We've been like even when the offense is struggled, like they have played extremely, extremely well.
- 24:43[SPEAKER_01]: But I think I just, you know, you get out of the fourth place schedule next season and whatever, but the fact that they've essentially pretty much have secured the 8th overall pick, like that's locked in beautiful.
- 25:13[SPEAKER_02]: That shocked me, I predicted it, but it wasn't like that.
- 25:18[SPEAKER_02]: But it went like a confident prediction, like you know what I'm saying?
- 25:21[SPEAKER_02]: It was just like, you know, before you even knew what was going to happen.
- 25:25[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, okay, maybe it went six.
- 25:27[SPEAKER_02]: But when we watched this team at the beginning of the year, six games felt like,
- 25:35[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, no way.
- 25:36[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, like, look how, how are we going to win six games?
- 25:39[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that just felt impossible.
- 25:41[SPEAKER_02]: Once we got to, you know, the middle part of the year, middle part of the season, when they were like, one in seven or whatever, you know what I'm saying?
- 25:49[SPEAKER_02]: Even though, even during that time, they did show a lot of fright.
- 25:52[SPEAKER_02]: It just wasn't good, but,
- 25:55[SPEAKER_02]: Tyler shook him and he just was able to, he was able to just make the place, make the place that was necessary to win the game.
- 26:02[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, the schedule got a little lighter, you faced some, you know, words of teams that obviously helped.
- 26:08[SPEAKER_02]: But still.
- 26:10[SPEAKER_02]: It's not like the Saints were like stacked and loaded.
- 26:13[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the Saints team got worse as the season went along.
- 26:17[SPEAKER_02]: Also, that's what we did.
- 26:19[SPEAKER_02]: He lost the heat.
- 26:20[SPEAKER_02]: He lost the heat, branded cooks.
- 26:22[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, call it whatever, but that was a veteran.
- 26:24[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, why receive what you lost.
- 26:26[SPEAKER_02]: For late started making some hit, then he went to Iowa.
- 26:31[SPEAKER_02]: Devon Nill, Devon Nill looking good.
- 26:33[SPEAKER_02]: Then he went to Iowa.
- 26:35[SPEAKER_02]: Can't your Miller went to Iowa?
- 26:38[SPEAKER_02]: you had rotate like I think the same thing I wanted like the most rotation like different combinations of offensive linemen and the season than any other team.
- 26:48[SPEAKER_02]: I think we were like one or two.
- 26:50[SPEAKER_02]: Who else?
- 26:53[SPEAKER_02]: That's just talking about receiver though.
- 26:54[SPEAKER_02]: Your tight-ends got hurt.
- 26:56[SPEAKER_02]: Foster Merrill got hurt.
- 26:59[SPEAKER_02]: It's unbelievable.
- 27:01[SPEAKER_02]: It was unbelievable.
- 27:02[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't want to hear this stuff about your schedule.
- 27:04[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, schedule got lighted, but the same team, telling us, got even worse words as the season went along to any still fine ways to keep fighting and winning.
- 27:13[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
- 27:14[SPEAKER_01]: And that's why like the whole, I don't know, but I like the, that's emblematic of like coaching leadership and all that,
- 27:29[SPEAKER_01]: who are not going to be going to the playoffs.
- 27:33[SPEAKER_01]: They lost what they lost at one point.
- 27:35[SPEAKER_01]: They had lost what like seven of eight games.
- 27:41[SPEAKER_01]: And we're like, and we're beating right there at the time.
- 27:44[SPEAKER_02]: Dude, we're like, hello, everybody was coming back.
- 27:48[SPEAKER_02]: It was like, what the hell?
- 27:50[SPEAKER_01]: Um, dumpspero said what happened to Tray Palmer did he ever get on the field?
- 27:54[SPEAKER_01]: No.
- 27:55[SPEAKER_01]: He went to IR from a weird hamstring injury.
- 27:58[SPEAKER_01]: That that will we ever is weird as hell.
- 28:01[SPEAKER_01]: Mark said Kelly in coach this roster to six wins.
- 28:04[SPEAKER_01]: That's impressive.
- 28:05[SPEAKER_01]: It is.
- 28:06[SPEAKER_01]: It is.
- 28:07[SPEAKER_01]: Um, Dave said everyone is convinced we you're going juicing round one, but I'm starting to get the feeling after watching the online Francis.
- 28:16[SPEAKER_01]: How do you
- 28:18[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, Maui, Maui, Goua get ready to learn Creole buddy.
- 28:22[SPEAKER_01]: Wouldn't not be surprising all.
- 28:23[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to leave it up.
- 28:24[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's not, that's the agenda I'm pushing, until he, I'm not going to go into offensive lines, hit in the first round.
- 28:35[SPEAKER_02]: I don't get, I know a small school, but I am pushing this agenda all year until April.
- 28:44[SPEAKER_01]: I want them to, well, let's, let's, let's, we'll talk about it.
- 28:48[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 28:48[SPEAKER_01]: So let's, let's talk about a few things after the break.
- 28:50[SPEAKER_01]: We're, we're going to play one of the videos.
- 28:53[SPEAKER_01]: Do one of the winners of the Tyler Chuck giveaway.
- 28:55[SPEAKER_01]: courtesy of Kevin and we're going to talk about a little feature as we come back.
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- 30:52[SPEAKER_01]: He said, I didn't even care about the game.
- 30:53[SPEAKER_01]: Just wanted Tyler to make it out.
- 30:55[SPEAKER_01]: Help the ready for us the
- 30:57[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, woof, um, Wesley said on the first round O'Lan thing, I get it for us as annoying but for Kellen, he has only drafted a lime and want that that makes sense.
- 31:08[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone else is inherited.
- 31:11[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I think my, my, my, my thing with Kellen, and I don't know if this is true or not, but a worry if you go back to listen to our episode that we have with Cody Alexander before the season.
- 31:24[SPEAKER_01]: So at the end of the episode, we asked him a question, is one like negative, one negative from a game like this that Tyler shook had, is that they can look at it and be like, oh, well, you don't really need weapons does he, like it could be the, it could be the opposite.
- 31:44[SPEAKER_01]: It could be like, well,
- 31:46[SPEAKER_01]: with like he can he has this baseline of elevating talent around him.
- 31:52[SPEAKER_01]: Then does he really like we got we got that lay we got a lot of going to come back healthy but we traded for a 7th or a 7th rounder or a 6 rounder from the second round picked last year in jail in Polk.
- 32:02[SPEAKER_01]: Tray Palmer that's how teams talk themselves into like that's the
- 32:14[SPEAKER_01]: You make it at noise because you can see it, bro.
- 32:15[SPEAKER_01]: Like you could, yeah, the police just completely see it.
- 32:20[SPEAKER_01]: That's, and one thing Cody out coach Cody I was going to understand is that some time when we saw what's on Sean Peyton for years, obviously, yeah, for Breeze is that coaches tend to over estimate their skin over players.
- 32:35[SPEAKER_01]: They feel like their skin can, and it's funny like a second.
- 32:39[SPEAKER_01]: Today's a perfect example of like,
- 32:42[SPEAKER_01]: Like the scheme was working, it was working, it was working.
- 32:45[SPEAKER_01]: But then like you keep calling the same shit and then like the scheme, like you have to have the players to be able to adjust and change the scheme.
- 32:52[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's players, not plays.
- 32:54[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's easier.
- 32:56[SPEAKER_01]: So that's the flip side of a game like this is like, but I get the point, right?
- 33:03[SPEAKER_02]: It's killing the one thing we got.
- 33:04[SPEAKER_02]: We're on a bill, I want you to make it one hand, it catches.
- 33:07[SPEAKER_02]: We've got a group draft,
- 33:10[SPEAKER_02]: You're okay.
- 33:11[SPEAKER_01]: I can see you, bro.
- 33:13[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's dope.
- 33:15[SPEAKER_02]: I dealt with that with Sean Payton.
- 33:16[SPEAKER_02]: Like I hate to do with that with him already.
- 33:19[SPEAKER_02]: And now he doesn't think like that.
- 33:21[SPEAKER_01]: I don't all anymore, which is no.
- 33:26[SPEAKER_01]: Hell, what?
- 33:28[SPEAKER_02]: I hope, I hope, you know.
- 33:29[SPEAKER_02]: I really do.
- 33:30[SPEAKER_02]: I go get, go get Tyler Chuck some real guy damn weapons.
- 33:34[SPEAKER_02]: Some that could like, they could elevate each other.
- 33:37[SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah, they'll elevate each other.
- 33:40[SPEAKER_02]: The whole, you know, see rises over the tide rises over whatever they like to say.
- 33:45[SPEAKER_02]: Like, raise the whole tide, man.
- 33:47[SPEAKER_02]: And let them elevate each other.
- 33:48[SPEAKER_02]: Go meet Cleans.
- 33:49[SPEAKER_02]: Somebody that can go and catch those high passes and pick those one month, one arm catches and, and, you know, win versus, you know, top corners and top man coverage corners.
- 34:01[SPEAKER_02]: Physical safety and all that stuff get go get some guys that could go out there and win with that let us System in a talent and the scheme like we mix those in together That's where you talking about championship's the Super Bowl.
- 34:15[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, can we get back to that?
- 34:16[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't heard Mickey Loomis gale Benson Dinimolosa nobody Me anything about them going to the Super Bowl.
- 34:24[SPEAKER_02]: I've been hearing about like the Super Bowl coming to New Orleans for like oh
- 34:28[SPEAKER_02]: For teams, other teams can enjoy, can the saints get back to like contending for championships, like screw the NFC South and winning the vision and all that stuff?
- 34:40[SPEAKER_02]: Can we have higher ambitions than that?
- 34:43[SPEAKER_02]: Like, let's get back to really contending, man.
- 34:45[SPEAKER_02]: And if you want to do that, you've got a young quarterback potentially a franchise, a young franchise quarterback
- 34:56[SPEAKER_02]: on a cheap deal like go all out and surround they do with weapons and a defense and a special teams and go after it man go after right now because okay I don't want to like put this out there because I want people to like understand.
- 35:14[SPEAKER_01]: Even let's let's say something happens next year where like maybe, oh, no, maybe these last five, six, whatever games were like fools goal, like maybe Tyler shook isn't the guy.
- 35:24[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we got full right.
- 35:26[SPEAKER_01]: But if you build the team properly the right way.
- 35:31[SPEAKER_01]: then if you have to go out potentially and do get a quarter back in 2027, 2028, then the team and theory should be already built for that quarter back to just be dropped in.
- 35:44[SPEAKER_01]: So that should be the plan, right?
- 35:48[SPEAKER_01]: Anyhow, Wayne said a common denominator between Kellon and Sean thinking.
- 35:52[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a Kellon and Sean thing.
- 35:55[SPEAKER_01]: It's an offensive-minded, hey, coach state.
- 35:58[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
- 35:59[SPEAKER_01]: Kyle Shanahan, like, all like,
- 36:01[SPEAKER_01]: The all of them to some degree kind of have that like hubris of I can make these guys look better than they actually are because my Zach is that good.
- 36:13[SPEAKER_02]: That's it's not and it takes a while it takes a while from the sake out of it because Kyle Shannon was like that we run it back for While then he was like, let me go get Chris from a kid for I need a dog.
- 36:23[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's like I need a dog in here.
- 36:25[SPEAKER_02]: Sean Ping was like that.
- 36:27[SPEAKER_02]: It's a hubris, like you said.
- 36:30[SPEAKER_02]: It's a hubris because offensive coaches tend to be just a type of way.
- 36:34[SPEAKER_02]: They just, yes, they're schemers.
- 36:36[SPEAKER_02]: They think they just like, oh, they like to take care of it.
- 36:38[SPEAKER_02]: Most of them think that it's Marty's guy in the room.
- 36:41[SPEAKER_02]: And whatever room they end, it's just how they are.
- 36:45[SPEAKER_01]: Status.
- 36:46[SPEAKER_01]: All right, if you're listening to the audio podcast of this, I'm sorry.
- 36:51[SPEAKER_01]: But this is Kevin doing his live spin, but get a little shit is just listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen.
- 37:02[SPEAKER_01]: He's bringing the community together for the first pilot, for the first pilot shock, dirty giveaway.
- 37:09[SPEAKER_01]: This is ours.
- 37:15[SPEAKER_01]: That is our dude at him.
- 37:17[SPEAKER_01]: Chili's at him.
- 37:19[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, let's go at him.
- 37:22[SPEAKER_02]: Chili's at him.
- 37:23[SPEAKER_02]: There we go.
- 37:28[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just just for us, just for us.
- 37:31[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be honest, when Kevin sent me this, I had to look at it, make sure there wasn't anything in his tabs, which I've been sharing.
- 37:40[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's the tab's book.
- 37:42[SPEAKER_02]: They want my don't stop Oh, you have a beat expo Tabs are in bookmarks, get your blood I had to make sure I was like, oh, okay, Kevin, this is in a team again.
- 37:55[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so this is our our second one No one anyone Second Tyler shot give away courtesy of our guy Kevin
- 38:17[SPEAKER_01]: Evie Tarr, 1-8-6, Evie Tarr.
- 38:21[SPEAKER_01]: Got to a jersey, bro.
- 38:22[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.
- 38:23[SPEAKER_01]: Reach out to Kevin on Discord.
- 38:28[SPEAKER_01]: Again, much love to Kevin for doing that and everything, free-shaded brother, definitely.
- 38:35[SPEAKER_01]: Much love.
- 38:37[SPEAKER_01]: What's his out of hope for Kevin's drive philosophy that sees in here your minds and stuff, how successful he was as O.C.
- 38:43[SPEAKER_01]: and Dallas and Philly when they amount of talent he had.
- 38:46[SPEAKER_01]: But then I could also see the flip side of that is that he also had like a great Olan and Dallas and the great Olan and Billy.
- 38:51[SPEAKER_01]: So like he goes because It goes both ways.
- 38:55[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not saying don't have a great Olan.
- 38:56[SPEAKER_01]: Like yes interest in a great Olan What's saying like those those investments don't have to come in the first Round.
- 39:04[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's why doesn't it have to be like exclusive like well, we you know Scoot screw like weapons.
- 39:09[SPEAKER_02]: We got to go all-iron the D line all-iron the D line.
- 39:12[SPEAKER_02]: I love all-iron the D line I love it like that's how you build a team
- 39:15[SPEAKER_02]: That's how you said Bill the team, they're strong in the trenches.
- 39:19[SPEAKER_02]: You got your two book and tech was right now.
- 39:21[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, you need, you probably need two.
- 39:25[SPEAKER_02]: really good guards, but you must have at least one.
- 39:29[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not having this one, at least one going to our next year.
- 39:32[SPEAKER_02]: Cool get them, not out of Jaguars, extended my guy, co-ordinated, and I've been pushing that agenda for months, it's gone, it's gone.
- 39:41[SPEAKER_02]: Can't happen now.
- 39:42[SPEAKER_02]: They got somebody out there.
- 39:43[SPEAKER_02]: Don't know who we'll figure that out.
- 39:46[SPEAKER_01]: I want, I want Ed Ingram, Ed Ingram, LSU Tiger, with the Texans, I believe he's a free agent, this guy coming, he's a free agent, I don't believe he is a free agent, this is a coming off season.
- 39:58[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, Ed, make it happen, man, make it happen.
- 40:01[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, who was the guy that went to, uh, the charges, was with Philly, went to the charges.
- 40:07[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I'm thinking it up, yeah, it's thinking it up, not saying, go get them, but like, we
- 40:16[SPEAKER_02]: If that's where if it gets to desperate times, I could have run.
- 40:19[SPEAKER_02]: Like, just you don't have to go first round at eight or nine where it would be picking, to get a guard.
- 40:26[SPEAKER_02]: You don't have to do that, or draft the tackle and move while you inside, like some people say it.
- 40:30[SPEAKER_02]: Hell no, like I've been pushing well, man.
- 40:33[SPEAKER_01]: What do you, what do you say insane?
- 40:36[SPEAKER_01]: That should drives me crazy when I see that, bro.
- 40:38[SPEAKER_01]: It drives me out of my gourd.
- 40:40[SPEAKER_01]: Since he's come back, he's been playing, since he got in health there, he's been playing really, really good, right tackle, like he's been playing really good at right tackle.
- 40:52[SPEAKER_01]: And I want to give a shout out to a scene, Richard.
- 40:54[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, guys, things went out this game, and he came in at left-hack when he was, he was holding up pretty well.
- 41:00[SPEAKER_02]: Bro, I like, I like what I'm saying, which is I love that moved and made it get him.
- 41:05[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he's a depth piece, obviously not a starter,
- 41:08[SPEAKER_02]: I like him being a part of that, um, just that old line depth.
- 41:11[SPEAKER_02]: He plays all over the all over the offensive line.
- 41:15[SPEAKER_02]: I like him, but, um, yeah.
- 41:17[SPEAKER_02]: So just, you know, that's where you go spend a little money at this all season.
- 41:22[SPEAKER_02]: Go spend a little money on the interior offensive line and then, and I'm not saying don't even draft a guard or center.
- 41:29[SPEAKER_02]: in a draft, but you could do that day three, you know what I'm saying?
- 41:33[SPEAKER_02]: Get just countin' on, bro.
- 41:35[SPEAKER_02]: My y'all, please.
- 41:36[SPEAKER_02]: Spin all your scouting.
- 41:37[SPEAKER_02]: Let's just count before.
- 41:39[SPEAKER_02]: Shit.
- 41:40[SPEAKER_01]: This gonna be the draft braze and all that is, it's just gonna be fascinating to me and just how it plays out, how they stack them and everything.
- 41:50[SPEAKER_01]: um let's see making limits will trim all said making limits will convince themselves to draft average players I don't even to get nothing James has said how do y'all feel about malachy man that we're going to be talking about the same same questions next well yeah three and a half months three and a half months but we've got to we've got to buckle in
- 42:20[SPEAKER_01]: He's a player, I had to watch more of him, like fully in depth, which is, you know, I know he played at USC plays out, you know, where I live, but he's just a player, just in terms of his draft, that his body archetype that does not scream to me that gets drafted.
- 42:41[SPEAKER_01]: eighth overall like he's not going to get I will be shot to Malachi Malachi let me got drafted eighth overall got got got got to top 10 he seems more slotted for that Matthew golden you know Xavier worthy like draft range but even those players they ran the burden yeah like they ran like four twos bra like so
- 43:05[SPEAKER_01]: it's like he's a player that I think the NFL is going to potentially like look down on him and because of his size and because he probably is not going to have like a quote on quote what's deemed as an outstanding workout.
- 43:18[SPEAKER_01]: He's probably going to work out fine but it's not going to be deemed like outstanding and he's not going to.
- 43:22[SPEAKER_01]: So those are like the things that like the tape the tape versus like who he is of the athlete that gets NFL teams in trouble.
- 43:36[SPEAKER_02]: and Ben Johnson, Sean Payton, some one of those, you know, Andy Reed, somebody that knows football offensive coach is going to take him and he's going to destroy his own defenses all year, just destroying it because that's what he do here though, he's a dog.
- 43:56[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I love him on my team.
- 43:57[SPEAKER_02]: I love him on my team.
- 43:58[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care where you're after bad.
- 44:00[SPEAKER_02]: Like I just don't like him.
- 44:01[SPEAKER_02]: And I know he's going to be a good player.
- 44:04[SPEAKER_02]: Some players just watch play, okay.
- 44:05[SPEAKER_02]: And this is an NFL football player.
- 44:08[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he's one of those dudes, man.
- 44:11[SPEAKER_02]: So, but yeah, he, but you're right though, he, I don't think he's going to light up the combine.
- 44:16[SPEAKER_02]: If he, if he works out, I'm saying he's going to work out.
- 44:18[SPEAKER_02]: Cause teams are going to want to see.
- 44:20[SPEAKER_02]: But I,
- 44:20[SPEAKER_02]: It wouldn't shock me if he runs like a four or five.
- 44:23[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe like a four or four eight or something like that.
- 44:27[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he's not in his size.
- 44:28[SPEAKER_02]: It's not going well, anybody.
- 44:30[SPEAKER_02]: But man, just put him on a football field.
- 44:33[SPEAKER_02]: It too, it's good of you, bro.
- 44:36[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, I don't know.
- 44:36[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what it's like.
- 44:37[SPEAKER_02]: Like some people just good at football.
- 44:39[SPEAKER_02]: He's good at like just understanding the spacing and just where his body can't go get the ball, man.
- 44:48[SPEAKER_02]: It's a wire receiver.
- 44:49[SPEAKER_01]: his, um, we would go with fit great in the Saints' offense like hell, yeah, man.
- 44:54[SPEAKER_01]: What's they do?
- 44:56[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, hell, yeah.
- 44:57[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, shout out to Demon Jones for the 499 Super Chat.
- 45:00[SPEAKER_01]: He said a alignment or like good veggies.
- 45:02[SPEAKER_01]: Good for the body, but don't want it.
- 45:06[SPEAKER_01]: Hi, tied up a title.
- 45:08[SPEAKER_01]: I'm tied up.
- 45:09[SPEAKER_01]: I'm tied up.
- 45:09[SPEAKER_01]: I'm tied up.
- 45:10[SPEAKER_02]: I guess I didn't want it, but we've been doing it.
- 45:13[SPEAKER_02]: It's not like we've been like a boy did we've been a
- 45:18[SPEAKER_01]: Every year.
- 45:19[SPEAKER_01]: Every year.
- 45:20[SPEAKER_01]: Do you realize this?
- 45:21[SPEAKER_01]: We've done, okay, let's just start this podcast.
- 45:25[SPEAKER_01]: Going back to 2020.
- 45:26[SPEAKER_01]: That was Caesar.
- 45:27[SPEAKER_01]: Caesar.
- 45:28[SPEAKER_01]: 2020, when you're on this pain, Turner.
- 45:30[SPEAKER_01]: 2022 was O'Lavey in Trevor Penny.
- 45:34[SPEAKER_01]: Penny.
- 45:35[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't have one to two thousand, 23.
- 45:37[SPEAKER_03]: Ten, two, a, twenty, four.
- 45:42[SPEAKER_03]: What's the waga?
- 45:44[SPEAKER_03]: 25.
- 45:45[SPEAKER_01]: That's when the free 23 was perceived.
- 45:46[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you're right, you're right.
- 45:48[SPEAKER_01]: Free three was perceived because of the patent trade.
- 45:51[SPEAKER_01]: And then 24.
- 45:53[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I got it.
- 45:54[SPEAKER_01]: And then, begs.
- 45:57[SPEAKER_02]: What are we talking about?
- 45:59[SPEAKER_02]: Like, what are we talking about?
- 46:02[SPEAKER_02]: Like, what are we?
- 46:03[SPEAKER_02]: Would you don't want to invest in the trenches?
- 46:05[SPEAKER_02]: Like, what have we been doing?
- 46:07[SPEAKER_02]: What have we been doing all this time?
- 46:12[SPEAKER_01]: I'm on the decade of decades worth.
- 46:14[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and it stretches, bro.
- 46:17[SPEAKER_02]: Good lord, man.
- 46:19[SPEAKER_02]: Good lord.
- 46:20[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not like, I'm not a gist of defensive lineman.
- 46:22[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I've been talking about David Belly.
- 46:24[SPEAKER_02]: I was going to win Bonneville, Reese, but we know we cut out at every range.
- 46:30[SPEAKER_02]: You know, probably out at David Belly range.
- 46:32[SPEAKER_02]: Bane is going to be a good one.
- 46:34[SPEAKER_02]: going to be talked about Ed Nozium.
- 46:37[SPEAKER_01]: He's just a couple of months, so polarized and bright.
- 46:41[SPEAKER_02]: I go back and forth on him all the time.
- 46:43[SPEAKER_02]: Back to me.
- 46:45[SPEAKER_02]: I'm almost at the point where I'm almost like, I am living like, man, that's a good football player, right?
- 46:52[SPEAKER_02]: It's a good football player.
- 46:53[SPEAKER_02]: But then you just thought, Dean is like, I could also see the pathway you like, damn.
- 47:01[SPEAKER_02]: Just saying, go and work out.
- 47:04[SPEAKER_01]: I just, this is not going to work out in the field, you know, and he's in the way that prospects kind of all the cart their workouts and stuff.
- 47:16[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're a Eagle Simmer.
- 47:19[SPEAKER_01]: No, you know, he was like, he was like, put on that take put on that tape against Ohio State.
- 47:23[SPEAKER_01]: That's enough.
- 47:24[SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
- 47:25[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
- 47:26[SPEAKER_01]: Ohio State takes a thing in him.
- 47:28[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
- 47:31[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but he's a very, he's going to be such a pull around polarizing prospect that I go back and forth on, um, Oh, just, I can see where he's just a, you know, I think with the Daryon, Jane and Jeremiah compared to maybe it's like Melbourne and England.
- 47:47[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I could kind of see that thing.
- 47:48[SPEAKER_01]: Bill, he was a little more explosive coming out of South Carolina.
- 47:51[SPEAKER_01]: It's like an explosive like damn how I know he came from South Carolina.
- 47:55[SPEAKER_01]: Got damn rough.
- 48:00[SPEAKER_01]: Help me just in cash that bring me out Pierce and drop downs.
- 48:04[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I Pierce almost put up a hundred and fifty yards on four catches today and two.
- 48:09[SPEAKER_02]: He hit a thousand yards or with a thousand yards or with a thousand yards or season burn.
- 48:13[SPEAKER_01]: No, he was three.
- 48:15[SPEAKER_01]: He was three yards away from a thousand yards and the rough kicked him out the game.
- 48:19[SPEAKER_01]: What?
- 48:20[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he got, he did like a, and a very, he bumped into the ref with him.
- 48:27[SPEAKER_02]: Oh shit.
- 48:28[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 48:29[SPEAKER_02]: That's crazy.
- 48:30[SPEAKER_02]: That's great.
- 48:30[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know what, he's gonna get, he's gonna get, they're gonna extend them.
- 48:35[SPEAKER_02]: Like they're gonna, the cops are gonna pay them.
- 48:36[SPEAKER_02]: Like the cops are gonna pay them.
- 48:37[SPEAKER_02]: They might take them, you know, just to drag on a, and then extend them.
- 48:42[SPEAKER_02]: But he, he's not going to wear it.
- 48:44[SPEAKER_02]: But that's the type of, I wouldn't mind, like it, Luma's won't get crazy.
- 48:47[SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't mind if I'll create some of that.
- 48:49[SPEAKER_01]: Um, overall, uh, we kind of wind things down, put in 2020 five syncs season with a bow.
- 48:59[SPEAKER_01]: That's okay.
- 49:00[SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh, what was it?
- 49:04[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was like, probably the most enjoyable season we've had.
- 49:11[SPEAKER_02]: It's just probably been on the podcast.
- 49:14[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, 2020 was fun, 2020 was fun, but it was like stressful.
- 49:19[SPEAKER_02]: It was a different type of fun.
- 49:20[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I was like?
- 49:21[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's when it was like that.
- 49:23[SPEAKER_01]: That's the cool thing you see in, but the team also like a contender where they should be winning and then they don't win.
- 49:29[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, it's like where the lion is right now, bro.
- 49:31[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly, exactly.
- 49:33[SPEAKER_02]: This was just kind of fun just like from a football standpoint.
- 49:36[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
- 49:37[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's just good old football right at me to be in the fan back in the day.
- 49:42[SPEAKER_02]: Just enjoy watching the team.
- 49:44[SPEAKER_02]: just fight through.
- 49:45[SPEAKER_02]: Even like the Redler, like, you know, people could read in history or like, you know, it's kind of like, recently by, so whatever, but even in first couple of weeks, I know we didn't wouldn't win the games, man, but I even enjoyed that stuff, you know, Redler did some good names.
- 50:03[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the
- 50:04[SPEAKER_02]: You know the three touchdown game versus the San Francisco for the diners almost won the game against the the Cardinals Like they did the game build trades The building was like Yeah, some good injury went off in the game.
- 50:19[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it just like some good stuff all throughout the season That was just fun and you know long stuff long stuff started popping up so it kind of started bail out a lot like
- 50:30[SPEAKER_02]: We just looking at the draft.
- 50:31[SPEAKER_02]: We look at that.
- 50:32[SPEAKER_02]: Take it on at that point.
- 50:33[SPEAKER_02]: We're like, man, shit.
- 50:34[SPEAKER_02]: Fresh in that shit.
- 50:35[SPEAKER_02]: Every runner's here.
- 50:37[SPEAKER_02]: Number one.
- 50:37[SPEAKER_02]: We got Nando Mendoza.
- 50:39[SPEAKER_02]: It was all that.
- 50:40[SPEAKER_02]: But then she came in.
- 50:42[SPEAKER_02]: Chuck came in like Luke Skywalker brothers like, I got this.
- 50:48[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, bro.
- 50:48[SPEAKER_02]: I got this.
- 50:49[SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy.
- 50:51[SPEAKER_02]: So it was a fun season man for me and just just going through
- 50:59[SPEAKER_02]: having a rookie quarterback.
- 51:01[SPEAKER_02]: I've never really, never really experienced that as a Saints fan.
- 51:05[SPEAKER_02]: Like we did this year.
- 51:07[SPEAKER_02]: So I enjoyed it, man.
- 51:09[SPEAKER_01]: It was, it was, there was a lot of like the, I don't want to compare it to 2017, but kind of like that unexpected like,
- 51:22[SPEAKER_01]: Remember that you kind of like just come and came out or know where it feels like this season kind of had that same that same glimmer to it kind of like that hope that that sparks.
- 51:35[SPEAKER_01]: Anything else from the season as as we wrap up.
- 51:39[SPEAKER_01]: So if again, if you're a new listener, I know we're getting towards the end of this episode, but before we do, before we kind of super, super wrap up, let's take a listen to our last break of the show, we'll come back right after this.
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- 53:02[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 53:03[SPEAKER_01]: We are back, um, for we wrap up fully, um, I'm gonna do one thing.
- 53:11[SPEAKER_01]: It will, you know, we'll give our thanks for the regular season and everything.
- 53:16[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, Wesley said definitely feels like we were heading for as the light at the end of the tunnel with how Chuck is playing.
- 53:22[SPEAKER_01]: It does.
- 53:24[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to have so many offseason episodes.
- 53:27[SPEAKER_01]: And if you're a newer listener or a newer subscriber, what have you to our channel to the podcast, you know, the format for the offseason pretty much doesn't change like obviously during the season.
- 53:40[SPEAKER_01]: We have the preview pod, the recap pod, offseason we make a commitment to, unless like one of us were on vacation, we make a commitment to have at least one episode a week during the offseason no matter what.
- 53:55[SPEAKER_01]: There probably will be a lot to talk.
- 53:56[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there'll be a lot to talk about regardless, but that's always what we try to aim for as combine season and free agency and draft and all this picks up.
- 54:09[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, you know, it should potentially increase, but that's just, you know, for our people to kind of know our schedule as this, you know, the regular season ends, going into that.
- 54:20[SPEAKER_01]: Give me, if you can make
- 54:21[SPEAKER_01]: One move.
- 54:23[SPEAKER_01]: I'll just keep this up on one move that the Saints could make in this off season.
- 54:29[SPEAKER_01]: Not draft, but just the move that they can make in the off season.
- 54:33[SPEAKER_01]: What's that move?
- 54:36[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we brought up one in a group with in general gold sign he above average guard.
- 54:44[SPEAKER_02]: Don't know gold sign above average guard to this team because I think it'll help
- 54:51[SPEAKER_02]: with the quarterback, with the brand game, all that, it'll help immensely.
- 54:57[SPEAKER_02]: Another one, I would like to see coming up, you know, don't just rest on your lowers with this, with this coach's staff, try to improve it, whether it's changing somebody, we'll be aware to talk about special teams.
- 55:12[SPEAKER_02]: That should be a change there, but also additions.
- 55:15[SPEAKER_02]: I know he was interested in the, the right-and-back coach with the, with the, with the Cowboys.
- 55:22[SPEAKER_02]: Playin' out of him.
- 55:23[SPEAKER_02]: Clayton at him.
- 55:23[SPEAKER_02]: I know there's, I can't get him get somebody else.
- 55:26[SPEAKER_02]: Like, look, just look, constantly look at ways to improve your coach and staff.
- 55:31[SPEAKER_02]: Defensively too.
- 55:33[SPEAKER_02]: Look for ways to just add pieces to this coach and staff that are, you know, brandy for it, man,
- 55:41[SPEAKER_02]: If you, if you're not, if you're not evolving in this league, bro, you're going to fall behind back.
- 55:45[SPEAKER_02]: So just as promising as they looked towards the end of this year, they can look at the lowest.
- 55:51[SPEAKER_02]: Wrong.
- 55:51[SPEAKER_02]: And behind next year, very quickly, very quickly, bro.
- 55:55[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
- 55:55[SPEAKER_01]: They could throw Davis at how soon do you think we get the end of the season pressure from Luma's also.
- 56:00[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think there will be one from Kellon Moore?
- 56:03[SPEAKER_01]: I think they probably will be from Kellon.
- 56:05[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, like killing to do something more.
- 56:07[SPEAKER_01]: Probably have a little.
- 56:09[SPEAKER_01]: and of the season for Loomis, probably towards the end of the next week.
- 56:14[SPEAKER_01]: Probably, yeah, yeah.
- 56:16[SPEAKER_01]: Sounds about right.
- 56:18[SPEAKER_01]: For me, I would say, I mean, I'm not gonna piggyback off the, the guard one, so I don't want to, so I was a copy.
- 56:30[SPEAKER_01]: I know that they've invested money in Joanne Johnson at Titan, and I know he's not going anywhere,
- 56:38[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's an opportunity in free agency that could really help with shock development and potentially with the Al-Lan if you could get another tie-in and I'm not saying go out and go get David and Joe Goo or I can't often, but maybe like a sneaky player under the radar.
- 57:07[SPEAKER_01]: That's like, like, a move where, okay, now you can potentially comfortably run more 12 personnel.
- 57:15[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
- 57:15[SPEAKER_01]: We saw, we saw Mascado.
- 57:16[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you highlighted it in the game last last week.
- 57:20[SPEAKER_01]: He looked like he was coming alive at the blocker.
- 57:21[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe he could run maybe there were more 13 personnel.
- 57:24[SPEAKER_01]: That's the one thing I would do, and then the second thing I said one, but we're we're just doing to I would just rip the band aid off what with Pete Lonerbro.
- 57:33[SPEAKER_01]: I train him for what I what I could of fifth to sixth or whatever and just, you know, quit stunts men and if he's going to be the Pete one replacement person, just like this whole
- 57:49[SPEAKER_01]: Just turn it over like turn it over and and I don't think that they would but if the sea ox forward whatever reason wanted to circle back around in the offseason in college all up again for Caesar in the offseason
- 58:02[SPEAKER_02]: Give me a clip, put your clip, give me a clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put your clip, put
- 58:29[SPEAKER_02]: That will get ignored most likely, but we're gonna put out this out.
- 58:34[SPEAKER_02]: Also, if you're a patreon, be on a lookout, maybe Tuesday or Wednesday, I'm gonna put it out like a booklet or like a ebook of the film study from this season.
- 58:47[SPEAKER_02]: I already started putting it together once I get the film study done for this game.
- 58:52[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna get that edited to it.
- 58:53[SPEAKER_02]: It would be a nice little PDF for our e-pop file that you could take
- 58:58[SPEAKER_02]: Just have, you know, it's cool to just look at, you know, okay, what, you know, look at the evolution of the Saint's offense this season and stuff like that.
- 59:05[SPEAKER_02]: I'm also going to add like some stats and graphs at the end of it once I collect all my little data points for the season and all that gets turned in.
- 59:14[SPEAKER_02]: So just be on a look at your picture and you're going to get it in your email or download it from the patreon site or something like that.
- 59:22[SPEAKER_02]: So just be on a look out for that.
- 59:24[SPEAKER_01]: We have 68 concurrent viewers, 300 and 16 views right now.
- 59:30[SPEAKER_01]: So as we just wrap up this regular season, anyone who has
- 59:35[SPEAKER_01]: watch, listen, live stream, whatever and just participate it.
- 59:40[SPEAKER_01]: Excuse me, during the regular season, truly, truly, like we appreciate every single one of y'all.
- 59:48[SPEAKER_01]: First of all, for support in us, it's been a ride.
- 59:53[SPEAKER_01]: I would say, you know, since we've start doing episodes, they know going ahead with the YouTube thing for about two and a half years now, this last,
- 1:00:03[SPEAKER_01]: five game shreds, this game shreds has been extremely crazy for us.
- 1:00:11[SPEAKER_01]: And that's why we want to be fun and to win.
- 1:00:16[SPEAKER_01]: It's always about the team being being able to be fun and to win because that benefits us.
- 1:00:25[SPEAKER_01]: We are a business.
- 1:00:29[SPEAKER_01]: But that aside, all the support, every little thing that we're able to do that even we might be able to do this year, in 2006, any event or any football venue that we're able to go to, that's all because of the support and the lessons and the downloads and the subscriptions and all of that.
- 1:00:47[SPEAKER_01]: It all goes to y'all.
- 1:00:49[SPEAKER_01]: So we appreciate y'all truly, truly, for rocking with us this season, the 2025 Saints regular season,
- 1:00:58[SPEAKER_01]: Keep going and now it's like what the 2020's six off season.
- 1:01:03[SPEAKER_01]: I guess or 2025 off season I'll 2020 takes off season.
- 1:01:06[SPEAKER_01]: I guess technically, but We appreciate y'all.
- 1:01:09[SPEAKER_01]: We love y'all.
- 1:01:10[SPEAKER_01]: We'll be back next week with something.
- 1:01:13[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
- 1:01:13[SPEAKER_01]: That'll be a preview.
- 1:01:14[SPEAKER_01]: Pied up a solo, but it'll be something So we appreciate y'all Appreciate y'all love y'all with that.
- 1:01:20[SPEAKER_01]: We are out