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Tech Friday with Dave Hatter -- 4/17/26 · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Do you have KCD talk station. The world is now
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  Speaker 1: says they are the best interest it dot Com. Welcome back,
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  Speaker 1: Dave had Or my friend. Always a pleasure to have
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  Speaker 1: you on the morning show.
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  Speaker 2: Always my pleasure to be here. Brian.
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  Speaker 1: Let's start with I guess don't be a victim NSA
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  Speaker 1: warning us to reboot our routers. Huh what?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know this is not new advice, Brian, and
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  Speaker 2: it's it's come up again, but it's important advice and
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  Speaker 2: it does tails nicely off of a recent FBI story
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  Speaker 2: warning about home equipment routers that sort of thing. So
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  Speaker 2: let's let's just define some words. You're kind of people
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  Speaker 2: get confused with all this techno mumbo jumbo. Most folks
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  Speaker 2: have at least two devices in their house if they
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  Speaker 2: have an Internet connection. One would be what is essentially
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  Speaker 2: a cable modem that connects you to the Internet, to
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  Speaker 2: your service provider, aultifier, spectrum, whoever. Sometimes that cable modem
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  Speaker 2: will also serve as a Wi Fi router, might have
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  Speaker 2: ports in it like a switch, so you can plug
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  Speaker 2: the computer directly into it, or you can connect to
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  Speaker 2: its wives by signal. But in many cases people will
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  Speaker 2: have a second device, typically called a Wi Fi router,
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  Speaker 2: and that is the device that's selling out the Wi
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  Speaker 2: Fi signal that allows you to connect to your wireless devices.
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  Speaker 2: And then we'll usually have some ports in Ethernet ports
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  Speaker 2: you can plug something into. So I just want to
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  Speaker 2: clarify this. For some people listening, they may have one
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  Speaker 2: device that's doing both things, or they might have two devices.
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  Speaker 2: And if you go look where the line coming into
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  Speaker 2: your house from your internet service provider, if you go
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  Speaker 2: there and you'll see again generally one or two of
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  Speaker 2: these devices. So the FBI has worn recently. Almost all
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  Speaker 2: of these devices come from China. They're potentially, you know,
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  Speaker 2: have back doors hackable, and if you have an older device,
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  Speaker 2: let's say more than three years old, you should replace it.
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  Speaker 2: Not only should you replace it because it's probably not
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  Speaker 2: getting software updates and is more vulnerable, but also the
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  Speaker 2: newer devices typically are more secure and will provide better speed.
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  Speaker 2: So that's kind of.
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  Speaker 1: Can I interject a quick question on that, because I
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  Speaker 1: literally asked my son, who is the computer savvy guy
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  Speaker 1: like you, not as much, but yeah, I said, yes,
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  Speaker 1: do we need to replace the Wi Fi system in
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  Speaker 1: our home? It's I don't know how many years old
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  Speaker 1: it is, but it's quite a few years old. And
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  Speaker 1: he said, well, don't you get regular software updates from
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  Speaker 1: the provider. I said, yes, it does. You know, you
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  Speaker 1: have to reboot it. It upgrades itself. So apparently they're
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  Speaker 1: staying on top of that. With that being the case,
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  Speaker 1: if you are getting regular security updates from your provider,
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  Speaker 1: do you need replace it?
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  Speaker 2: It's it's less important to replace it if you're getting
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  Speaker 2: the regular software updates. If you and this would be
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  Speaker 2: true for any device, run it regardless of what it is. True.
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  Speaker 2: But you know your router, I mean, I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: use the term router Wi Fi router. It's sort of
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  Speaker 2: generically for how you get connected to the internet, whether
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  Speaker 2: it's one device or two, that's one of the most
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  Speaker 2: important devices in the whole chain, because everything you do
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  Speaker 2: is going through it. Right, All the data you're sending
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  Speaker 2: wherever you're sending it into the Internet, and all the
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  Speaker 2: data coming back to you is going through that router.
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  Speaker 2: So if that thing is vulnerable, if that thing has
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  Speaker 2: back doors, and because it came from China and the
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  Speaker 2: Chinese Communist Party can potentially control it. And a big
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  Speaker 2: article just came out about an even broader aspect of
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  Speaker 2: this yesterday, but I'll save it for next week. It's
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  Speaker 2: pretty hair raising and we really need to talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: If you're getting the software updates, it's much less important
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  Speaker 2: to replace newer ones, though typically will have more features,
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  Speaker 2: they'll be faster. If you're not getting the updates, it's
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  Speaker 2: very important to replace it. And I would say depending
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  Speaker 2: on the brand, And you can go do a search
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  Speaker 2: on this FBI thing I mentioned, you point out some
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  Speaker 2: specific stuff. So if you're getting the updates, then much
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  Speaker 2: moss important to replace it, which then gets us back
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  Speaker 2: to this essay advice. You should reboot that device at
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  Speaker 2: least once a month. I suggest once a week. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: I drive my family. That's what this. Every Sunday, I'll
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  Speaker 2: send my wife and kids a text for minding them
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  Speaker 2: to update their devices. Update the software on it, all
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  Speaker 2: the apps on your phone, the phone software itself, your computer,
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  Speaker 2: the apps on it. Remember just updating like your Apple
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  Speaker 2: iOS while critically important, you need to update the apps
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  Speaker 2: on it as well, like one of the upstore, and
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  Speaker 2: you used to update features. So I'll say, hey, update that.
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  Speaker 2: You should update your any smart device, your TVs, whatever
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  Speaker 2: you got, and then reboot those things. Sometimes people say,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how to reboot it, Okay, One of
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  Speaker 2: the most simple way to do it is walk over,
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  Speaker 2: find the cord of unplugging, plug the cord back in.
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  Speaker 2: If you don't know how to do a physical reboot
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  Speaker 2: without unplugging it, then unplug it.
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  Speaker 1: So when the Internet crashes, as it happens from time
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  Speaker 1: to time at our home, the first thing you do
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  Speaker 1: is go down and I unplug both the router and
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  Speaker 1: the Wi Fi system, give it a minute, and then
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  Speaker 1: plug it back in. And everything seems to be fine
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  Speaker 1: after that. So you're saying, even if you're having no
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  Speaker 1: problems once a week, go down there and do that
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  Speaker 1: just to be safe.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, at least once a month. Again, this is this
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  Speaker 2: is coming directly to you from the nssay and dot
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  Speaker 2: Dave Hatter, I reboot my stuff at least once a week.
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  Speaker 2: You know, your desktop, computer, your notebooks, your tablet, your phone.
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  Speaker 2: I reboot my phone every week. You know the NSA
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  Speaker 2: has suggested that in the past as well, just for
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  Speaker 2: the phone, more is better. I get that that's more inconvenient,
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  Speaker 2: though at least once a month. Take their advice. Do
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  Speaker 2: this you will be much better off.
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  Speaker 1: Great and also don't count on your texts being deleted.
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  Speaker 1: Your signal message be deleted because the FBI can find them.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to learn how with Tech Friday's Dave Hatter
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  Speaker 1: is able to extract signal messages that we thought we deleted.
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  Speaker 1: Is that the way this thing works?
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  Speaker 2: Well, So yeah, more or less, it's kind of interesting.
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  Speaker 2: And to me, Brian, this is really an important story
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  Speaker 2: because it shows how a people don't really understand all
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  Speaker 2: this stuff works and thus set themselves up for problems
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  Speaker 2: and b thaying s don't always work in a way
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  Speaker 2: that's obvious. And here's what I mean by that. So
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  Speaker 2: Signal is well known as an end to end encrypted
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  Speaker 2: chat application, and as far as I know, no one
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  Speaker 2: has ever shown I mean, even folks like Eli Musk
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  Speaker 2: talk about signal Signal as a competitor to apps like
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  Speaker 2: Telegram or WhatsApp from meta. I've used Signal myself for
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  Speaker 2: this sort of thing. Most privacy experts who are really
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  Speaker 2: deeply ensconced in this stuff are for Signal, and it's
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  Speaker 2: into end encrypted, which is basically nerd speak for if
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  Speaker 2: you have a Signal chat app and I have a
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  Speaker 2: Signal chat app, and we connect on Signal, we can
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  Speaker 2: send each other messages and even Signal can't decrypt those
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  Speaker 2: messages theoretically right now, again, you always have to assume
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  Speaker 2: the backdoors and stuff that aren't known. But the idea
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  Speaker 2: of into end encryption is you know your encryption keys,
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  Speaker 2: and my encryption keys make it possible for us to
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  Speaker 2: exchange private messages. That's the simple way to the quain right,
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  Speaker 2: And unless you would turn over the key that can
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  Speaker 2: unlock my message because I've shared it with you or
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  Speaker 2: something like that, you know it safe. Here's the interesting problem.
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  Speaker 2: And again this gets into such intricate details of how
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  Speaker 2: complex all of this software is now and how it's
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  Speaker 2: almost impossible for human being Steven understand all the capabilities.
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  Speaker 2: If you have an iPhone right this was specifically on
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  Speaker 2: an iPhone, and you have the lock screen turned on,
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  Speaker 2: which you should. The lock screen is your phone will
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  Speaker 2: automatically lock after some period of inactivity, so that someone
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  Speaker 2: can just walk up and get on it, or frankly
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  Speaker 2: swipe it out of your hand and keep it on
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  Speaker 2: locked forever. Take over your email accounts, then take over
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  Speaker 2: all your accounts and own your life. So you should
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  Speaker 2: have the lock feature turned on. But on an iPhone
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  Speaker 2: you can have apps that will send messages to that
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  Speaker 2: lock screen. For example, MyPhone is locked, my wife sends
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  Speaker 2: me a text and I get a notification and I
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  Speaker 2: can potentially see the contents of the text, right. Well,
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  Speaker 2: that's because it can decrypt that and show me that
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  Speaker 2: on the lock screen. There's a database that stores those
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  Speaker 2: essences that are being shown on the lock screen, and
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  Speaker 2: that's basically what they were. Again, ingenuity on the FBI's part.
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  Speaker 2: I'm reading directly from the article here. FBI was able
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  Speaker 2: to surigically extract copies of incoming signal messages from a
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  Speaker 2: defendive phone even after the Apple is deleted, because the
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  Speaker 2: copies of the content were saved in the devices push
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  Speaker 2: notification database. This is the shortcomings and how Apple stores
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  Speaker 2: notifications better than signal. So the message from you that's
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  Speaker 2: encrypted hits my phone still encrypted my phone. My account
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  Speaker 2: on my phone can unlock that decrypt that message, right
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  Speaker 2: but my phone is locked. I've got the notifications turned
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  Speaker 2: on for signal. Signal decrypts it and then sends the notification,
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  Speaker 2: the decrypted version is in that database. It's decrypted. They
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  Speaker 2: were smart enough to go, huh, let's look in the
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  Speaker 2: notification database and see if it's in there. Oh, well,
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  Speaker 2: there it is, so you think. And the Signal, again,
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  Speaker 2: this isn't a fall of signal or broken encryption or
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  Speaker 2: the FBI break the encryption. It's how the apps work
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  Speaker 2: and a misunderstanding of that. And then they go on
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  Speaker 2: to explain, you know, you could turn off the notifications
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  Speaker 2: for Signal, for example, so that this wouldn't happen on
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  Speaker 2: your device. But it's it's interesting and again to me,
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  Speaker 2: really illustrates that even if you think you have privacy
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  Speaker 2: because you're using something like an encrypted app, if you
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  Speaker 2: don't really understand how it works and how these tertiary capabilities,
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  Speaker 2: like well, you're going to get a medification that I
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  Speaker 2: got a message from Brian Pomins the's signal that might
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  Speaker 2: defeat the underlying encryption, even though the encryption itself and
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  Speaker 2: the signal app are still working as an advertised do
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  Speaker 2: That makes it's kind of complicated, but it's a warning
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  Speaker 2: to people who think they are using apps that are
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  Speaker 2: going to protect their privacy and then may not because
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  Speaker 2: of misconfiguration.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, and it may be a bad thing for me
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  Speaker 1: to just sort of perceive the whole reality is. I
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  Speaker 1: just assume that anything I ever type on my phone
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  Speaker 1: by way of messages is out there somewhere in the world,
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  Speaker 1: and even though it's encrypted there someone will be able
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  Speaker 1: to retrieve it and look at it. So and you're
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  Speaker 1: basically you're basically confirming my general default suspicion. Dave Adder,
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  Speaker 1: don't go.
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  Speaker 2: Apparently that's the way to operate.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess maybe keeps your nose clean, keeps you
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  Speaker 1: Dave Hatter every Monday or every Friday between six thirty
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  Speaker 1: and this moment in time. Three segments and we pivot
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  Speaker 1: over to Wi Fi spying. What's this one about? Dave Hatter?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is pretty interesting and also not new. I
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  Speaker 2: thank you. And I have talked about this before a
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  Speaker 2: couple of years ago, when I think it was in
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  Speaker 2: myt originally started talking about how this could be done.
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  Speaker 2: But there's some new information that's really interesting. This is
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  Speaker 2: a story from Popular Mechanics. As you mentioned, Brian, you
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  Speaker 2: know I've got a substack. I'll post all the links
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  Speaker 2: to these articles so if people want more detailed information,
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  Speaker 2: I really want to go down the rabbit hole on
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  Speaker 2: some of this stuff, and some of that is worth doing,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's it's better to really understand this stuff
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  Speaker 2: at a deeper level than the couple three minutes we
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  Speaker 2: get on these segments. Popular Science recently reported on this
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  Speaker 2: and they're basically saying, you know, if you think about it,
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  Speaker 2: Wi Fi right, it's just a radio signal. So you
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  Speaker 2: have your WiFi router home, as we discussed in that
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  Speaker 2: first segment, and again, you should reboot it regularly. Ideally
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  Speaker 2: I would recommend once a week. And even if you
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  Speaker 2: don't care about that from a security perspective, it will
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  Speaker 2: often improve the performance of your devices get you reboot them.
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  Speaker 2: That Wi Fi router is thwing off a wireless signal
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  Speaker 2: that your devices, your so called smart devices can connect
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  Speaker 2: to your computers, et cetera. And because it's selling out
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  Speaker 2: a radar or radio signal, think radar, right, that's really
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  Speaker 2: what radar is passed out of radio signal and it
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  Speaker 2: bounces off of things and as it you know, when
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  Speaker 2: it comes back, you can figure out how far away
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  Speaker 2: something is, how fast something is going, and you know
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  Speaker 2: we're in the shape of something, figure out what it is, right,
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  Speaker 2: is in the airplane is it the helicopters to ship whatever? Well,
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  Speaker 2: this is really the sad concept, okay. And they say
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  Speaker 2: that I'm quoting directly from popular mechanics. You only need
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  Speaker 2: to walk past the location with an active Wi Fi
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  Speaker 2: network in radio waves, and the radio waves Wi Fi
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  Speaker 2: sends out, bounce off of you and create an image
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  Speaker 2: and basically they kind of recap the key points of
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  Speaker 2: this article. An emerging surveillance method can be used to
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  Speaker 2: analyze the radio signals set out by Wi Fi to
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  Speaker 2: create images of people without their consent. So if you're
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  Speaker 2: walking by a building and Wi Fi is coming out
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  Speaker 2: of that building, which is pretty typical, right, and this
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  Speaker 2: is another security thing business that should think about. Are
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  Speaker 2: you blasting Wi Fi signal out of your building and
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  Speaker 2: how can you minimize that, So it's more difficult for
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  Speaker 2: someone that would want to try to hack your network
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  Speaker 2: through the Wi Fi to get connected. If I can
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  Speaker 2: sit one hundred yards away from your building out of
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  Speaker 2: the parking lot in my car and connect to your
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  Speaker 2: Wi Fi, ideally it's secure and I would have to
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  Speaker 2: hack it that if I can't even get the signal
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  Speaker 2: unless I'm like two feet away from the building or
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  Speaker 2: in the building, But that makes it a lot harder
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  Speaker 2: for me. Right, But the point is if you're in
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  Speaker 2: a building where there's Wi Fi, or if you're close
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  Speaker 2: to a site that has Wi Fi public Wi Fi
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  Speaker 2: for example, right you're down a family market, or you're
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  Speaker 2: at Panera or in a hotel where there's public Wi Fi.
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  Speaker 2: These radio signals are beaming out. And the point they're
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  Speaker 2: ultimately making is could you be identified at a place
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  Speaker 2: simply because the Wi Fi meets you and you know
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  Speaker 2: able to create an image of you which could then
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  Speaker 2: be set into a database and ultimately says well this
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  Speaker 2: is Brian Thomas, We've seen him somewhere else before, and
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  Speaker 2: they say researchers were able to de mystify how other
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  Speaker 2: people are in these conspire on you. More investigation of
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  Speaker 2: these metrics will still be needed, but it's just you know,
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  Speaker 2: as we add more and more technology into our lives.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I've been concerned about things like slock cameras
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  Speaker 2: and PCT the surveillance, but as we're seeing now smart
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  Speaker 2: people realize these technologies again, like a radar can create
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  Speaker 2: an image, and you know, it's not like a colored
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  Speaker 2: picture of you, it's like gate analysis. A lot of
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  Speaker 2: people don't realize that using technology like this, you can
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  Speaker 2: be identified just by how you walk. You know, I
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  Speaker 2: don't need to scan your iris or your retina necessarily,
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  Speaker 2: just the way you walk is unique and could potentially
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  Speaker 2: identify you. You know, as we throw more and more
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  Speaker 2: of this stuff out there, there are all these different
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  Speaker 2: ways that they could potentially be used for surveillance. So
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  Speaker 2: I just need to see your favor necessarily, I might
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  Speaker 2: be identify you just from your overall shape.
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  Speaker 1: All right, well crazy, it is crazy and might not
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  Speaker 1: impact you know, most people listening right now, or at
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  Speaker 1: least they're not probably concerned about it. But going to
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  Speaker 1: your earlier point, how could you possibly prevent the Wi
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  Speaker 1: Fi signal from leaking out of the building unless you
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  Speaker 1: put your building inside of a Faraday cage.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you can do things like get higher end equipment
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  Speaker 2: that hands directional antenna and control the antennas right point
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  Speaker 2: them in certain directions. Put material that can box. So
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  Speaker 2: let's just say, for example, yeah, you could literally put
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  Speaker 2: up tenfoil behind the router on the outside of the building,
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  Speaker 2: you know, are the side that's facing the outside. You know,
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  Speaker 2: you could put some sort of blocking material behind the
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  Speaker 2: router in the in the room that it's in so
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: that less of that signal leaks out of the building
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: and more of it as blasting into the building where
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: you want your team to use it. Does that make sense?
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: That it makes sense? But I doubt anybody really going
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  Speaker 1: to bother doing that because the likelihood that some spy
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: agency is outside your building using your signal to you know,
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  Speaker 1: identify people's probably pretty.
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  Speaker 2: Slim, pretty slim, pretty slim.
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  Speaker 1: It can be done. It's just that it can be done,
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  Speaker 1: and that's the direction we're going. So one more opportunity
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  Speaker 1: for someone to spy on you through a through a
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  Speaker 1: device that you never, rarely ever believe it could happen with.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: I suppose next week you're going to be talking to
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  Speaker 1: us about the Chinese companies q Sateel and Fiblecom controlling
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  Speaker 1: nearly half of the global market for cellular modules that
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  Speaker 1: are tiny computer elements that make up all of our
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  Speaker 1: smart devices, and the Chinese Communist Party can get all
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  Speaker 1: of our information because they're in literally everything.
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  Speaker 2: Dave, Yes, Brian, that also there's a gold story I
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  Speaker 2: want to hit on because it's actually beneficial. But I
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  Speaker 2: saw this somehow yesterday, and this is something I've been
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  Speaker 2: warning about forever. Yeah, you know, we have all this
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  Speaker 2: equipment coming from China. It has chips from China, it
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: can have back doors. What do you think is going
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  Speaker 2: to happen if it's half of the devices out there?
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: You're a smart TV, you're smart refrigerator, YOURTM, your car,
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: your computer, your phone, What do you think is going
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: to happen in society the day they flipped the switch
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  Speaker 2: and all that turns off.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think we can all just say collective catastrophe.
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  Speaker 1: It would be bad, probably be worse than anything that
• 20:01
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  Speaker 2: Always my pleasure, Brian, Thanks.
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