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The Awe & Ecstasy of Surrendering to the Inner Beloved · Deep Transformation

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  Welcome
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  to
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  part
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  two
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  of
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  our
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  second
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  Path
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  of
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  Love
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  conversation
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  with
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  teacher
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  and
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  sage
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  A.
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  H.
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  Almaas
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  where
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  we
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  continue
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  to
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  immerse
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  ourselves
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  in
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  his
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  latest
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  book,
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  the
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  Inner
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  Beloved.
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  Welcome
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  to
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  Deep
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  Self,
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  Society,
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  Spirit,
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  life
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  enhancing
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  paradigm
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  rattling
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  conversations
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  with
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  cutting
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  edge
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  thinkers,
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  contemplatives
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  and
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  activists
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  with
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  Dr.
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  Roger
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  Walsh
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  and
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  John
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  Dupuy.
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  So
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  it's
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  only
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  suffering.
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  And
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  most
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  people
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  won't
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  do
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  it
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  has
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  many
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  rewards
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  along
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  the
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  path.
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  I
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  get
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  to
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  suffering
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  whether
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  I
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  want
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  it
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  or
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  not,
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  Hameed.
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  I
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  don't
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  try
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  to
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  manufacture
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  it.
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  It
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  comes
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  pretty
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  naturally.
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  Yeah,
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  it's
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  kind
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  of
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  because
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  we
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  all
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  have
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  stuff
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  we
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  have
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  to
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  burn
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  through.
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  But
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  part
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  of
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  burning
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  through
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  is
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  sometimes
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  there's
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  love.
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  There
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  is
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  a
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  melting,
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  there's
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  a
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  flooding,
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  there's,
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  you
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  know,
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  encounters
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  with
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  different
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  feeling
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  of
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  the
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  love
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  itself.
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  Not
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  just
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  yearning,
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  but
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  love.
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  And
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  sometimes
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  the
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  passion
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  is
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  so.
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  It's
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  called
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  ish,
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  which
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  means
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  intense,
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  passionate,
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  ecstatic
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  love
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  before
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  we
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  meet
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  the
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  beloved.
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  And
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  that's
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  one
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  of
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  the
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  striking
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  things
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  you
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  point
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  out
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  amid
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  that
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  there
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  can
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  be
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  this
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  intense
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  longing
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  for
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  the
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  beloved.
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  But
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  there's
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  not
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  a
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  clarity
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  for
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  a
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  long
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  time
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  about
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  exactly
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  what
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  it
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  is
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  one
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  is
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  secret
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  or
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  longing
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  for.
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  No,
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  no
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  clarity
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  about
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  what
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  it
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  is
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  until
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  that
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  sometimes
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  we
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  have
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  glimpses,
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  but
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  because
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  there
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  are
• 1:44
  glimpses,
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  we're
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  not
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  sure
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  that
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  whether
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  that's
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  it.
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  I
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  mean,
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  I
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  mean
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  for
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  me
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  I
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  had
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  experience
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  with
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  absolute
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  fullness
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  realization
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  of
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  it.
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  But
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  it
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  didn't
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  come
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  through
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  the
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  heart,
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  didn't
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  come
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  from
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  within
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  the
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  heart.
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  So
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  I
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  didn't
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  know
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  it
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  was
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  beloved.
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  And
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  then
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  there
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  was
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  process
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  of
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  wanting
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  the
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  end
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  up
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  beloved.
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  And
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  I
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  don't
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  know
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  why
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  I
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  was
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  wanting
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  this.
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  It
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  was
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  happening.
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  It's
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  recognizing
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  that
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  the
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  heart
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  has
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  its
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  own
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  beloved
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  and
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  it
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  wasn't
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  going
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  to
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  be
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  happy
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  until
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  it
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  met
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  it
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  face
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  to
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  face.
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  You
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  were
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  probably
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  too
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  smart,
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  Hameed.
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  And
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  your
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  big
• 2:26
  beautiful
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  brain
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  was
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  getting
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  in
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  the
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  way
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  of
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  your
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  heart
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  until
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  you
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  had
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  no
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  choice
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  and
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  it
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  was
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  just
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  there.
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  It
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  was
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  habit
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  all
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  the
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  way
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  through,
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  but
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  at
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  some
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  point
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  took
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  the
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  center
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  place.
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  And
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  it's
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  interesting
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  how
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  in
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  this
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  book
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  we
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  come
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  toward
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  the
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  end
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  into
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  meeting
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  the
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  knowing
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  the
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  beloved,
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  becoming
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  one
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  beloved
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  and
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  experiencing
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  it
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  and
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  experiencing
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  the
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  universe
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  throughout.
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  The
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  condition
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  of
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  the
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  beloved,
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  the
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  vastness
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  and
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  the
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  beauty,
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  the
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  inner
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  darkness
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  that's
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  called
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  and
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  that
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  is
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  so
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  similar
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  to
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  the
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  experience
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  of
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  the
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  absolute
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  through
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  the
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  other
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  path.
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  However,
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  here
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  the
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  love
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  component
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  is
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  an
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  important
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  part
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  of
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  it.
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  The
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  world
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  appears
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  as
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  made
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  out
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  of
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  love
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  and
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  an
• 3:23
  expression
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  of
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  the
• 3:24
  love
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  of
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  the
• 3:25
  absolute.
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  So
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  there's
• 3:28
  a
• 3:28
  flavor
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  to
• 3:29
  it
• 3:29
  that
• 3:29
  is
• 3:30
  distinct
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  in
• 3:31
  the
• 3:31
  path
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  of
• 3:32
  love.
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  Yeah,
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  there
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  is
• 3:34
  A
• 3:34
  distinctness
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  and
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  the
• 3:36
  experience
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  of
• 3:36
  the
• 3:36
  absolute
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  is
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  different,
• 3:38
  distinct.
• 3:39
  The
• 3:40
  beauty
• 3:40
  and
• 3:40
  the
• 3:40
  majesty
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  are
• 3:41
  much
• 3:42
  more
• 3:42
  obvious
• 3:43
  there.
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  Well,
• 3:48
  don't
• 3:48
  all
• 3:49
  the
• 3:49
  paths
• 3:49
  take
• 3:49
  us
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  there
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  eventually?
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  I
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  mean,
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  Buddhist
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  is
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  much
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  more.
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  Seemed
• 3:52
  like
• 3:52
  more
• 3:52
  of
• 3:53
  a
• 3:53
  mind
• 3:53
  thing.
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  But
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  eventually
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  you
• 3:55
  get
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  to
• 3:56
  the
• 3:56
  point
• 3:56
  of
• 3:56
  the
• 3:56
  Bodhisattva
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  where
• 3:57
  it
• 3:58
  seems
• 3:58
  to
• 3:58
  be
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  all
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  about
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  love
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  again.
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  And
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  I'm
• 4:02
  not
• 4:02
  an
• 4:02
  expert
• 4:02
  on
• 4:02
  Buddhism,
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  but
• 4:03
  just
• 4:03
  my
• 4:03
  take.
• 4:04
  Well,
• 4:04
  I
• 4:04
  mean,
• 4:04
  I
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  remember
• 4:05
  when
• 4:06
  Raja
• 4:06
  was
• 4:07
  talking
• 4:07
  about
• 4:07
  Longchampa.
• 4:08
  Here
• 4:08
  is
• 4:09
  Lakshmang
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  Pa,
• 4:10
  one
• 4:10
  of
• 4:10
  the
• 4:10
  main
• 4:10
  writer
• 4:11
  in
• 4:11
  Dzogchen.
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  And
• 4:12
  he
• 4:12
  has
• 4:13
  many
• 4:14
  writings
• 4:14
  and
• 4:14
  poems
• 4:15
  about
• 4:16
  the
• 4:16
  deepest
• 4:17
  truth.
• 4:18
  He
• 4:18
  rarely
• 4:19
  mentions
• 4:19
  love
• 4:19
  in
• 4:19
  it,
• 4:20
  if
• 4:20
  you
• 4:20
  notice.
• 4:21
  He
• 4:21
  doesn't
• 4:21
  talk
• 4:21
  about
• 4:22
  love,
• 4:22
  he
• 4:22
  rarely
• 4:23
  talks
• 4:23
  about
• 4:23
  beauty.
• 4:24
  They
• 4:24
  do
• 4:24
  appear,
• 4:25
  you
• 4:25
  find
• 4:25
  them.
• 4:26
  However,
• 4:27
  if
• 4:27
  you
• 4:28
  read
• 4:28
  Rumi,
• 4:29
  it's
• 4:29
  all
• 4:29
  about
• 4:29
  love
• 4:29
  and
• 4:30
  beauty.
• 4:31
  It's
• 4:32
  a
• 4:32
  very
• 4:32
  different
• 4:32
  kind
• 4:33
  of
• 4:33
  poetry,
• 4:34
  you
• 4:34
  know,
• 4:35
  so
• 4:35
  the
• 4:35
  emphasis
• 4:36
  is
• 4:36
  different.
• 4:37
  And
• 4:38
  they're
• 4:38
  both
• 4:38
  true.
• 4:39
  That's
• 4:39
  the
• 4:40
  thing,
• 4:40
  they're
• 4:40
  both
• 4:40
  true.
• 4:41
  They're
• 4:41
  both
• 4:41
  complete
• 4:42
  and
• 4:42
  their
• 4:42
  own.
• 4:43
  And
• 4:43
  maybe
• 4:44
  down
• 4:44
  the
• 4:44
  line
• 4:44
  sometime
• 4:45
  we'll
• 4:45
  get
• 4:45
  to
• 4:46
  it.
• 4:46
  You
• 4:46
  emphasize
• 4:47
  that
• 4:47
  each
• 4:47
  teaching
• 4:48
  and
• 4:48
  each
• 4:48
  path
• 4:49
  has
• 4:49
  its
• 4:49
  own
• 4:49
  what
• 4:50
  you
• 4:50
  call
• 4:50
  logos.
• 4:51
  It's
• 4:51
  inherent
• 4:52
  nature.
• 4:53
  And
• 4:53
  here
• 4:54
  we're
• 4:54
  talking
• 4:54
  about
• 4:55
  the
• 4:55
  logos
• 4:55
  of
• 4:56
  the
• 4:56
  path
• 4:56
  of
• 4:56
  the
• 4:56
  heart
• 4:57
  being
• 4:58
  very
• 4:58
  distinct
• 4:59
  on
• 5:00
  the
• 5:01
  path
• 5:01
  of.
• 5:02
  Well,
• 5:03
  say
• 5:03
  contrast
• 5:03
  with
• 5:04
  long
• 5:04
  temper,
• 5:04
  awareness
• 5:05
  or
• 5:05
  even
• 5:06
  to
• 5:06
  some
• 5:06
  extent,
• 5:07
  not
• 5:07
  completely
• 5:09
  more
• 5:09
  the
• 5:10
  inquiry.
• 5:10
  I
• 5:10
  mean,
• 5:10
  as
• 5:11
  you
• 5:11
  point
• 5:11
  out,
• 5:11
  there's
• 5:12
  inquiry
• 5:12
  at
• 5:13
  the
• 5:13
  heart
• 5:13
  of
• 5:14
  the
• 5:14
  diamond
• 5:14
  approach.
• 5:15
  Yeah,
• 5:16
  different
• 5:16
  emphasis
• 5:16
  here.
• 5:17
  It
• 5:17
  feels
• 5:17
  like.
• 5:18
  Yeah,
• 5:18
  so
• 5:18
  the
• 5:19
  path
• 5:19
  of
• 5:19
  love
• 5:19
  in
• 5:19
  the
• 5:19
  diamond
• 5:20
  approach
• 5:20
  is
• 5:20
  a
• 5:20
  little
• 5:21
  different
• 5:21
  than
• 5:22
  for
• 5:22
  instance
• 5:22
  Ramakrishna
• 5:23
  path,
• 5:24
  you
• 5:24
  know,
• 5:24
  love.
• 5:25
  Because
• 5:26
  in
• 5:26
  the
• 5:26
  diamond
• 5:26
  approach
• 5:27
  it's
• 5:27
  intertwined
• 5:28
  with
• 5:28
  inquiry.
• 5:29
  There's
• 5:29
  inquiry,
• 5:30
  there's
• 5:31
  an
• 5:31
  understanding
• 5:32
  of
• 5:32
  the
• 5:32
  obstacle
• 5:33
  that
• 5:33
  arise.
• 5:33
  They
• 5:34
  don't
• 5:34
  just
• 5:34
  get
• 5:34
  burnt
• 5:35
  away.
• 5:36
  They're
• 5:37
  understood,
• 5:38
  they're
• 5:38
  recognized
• 5:39
  for
• 5:39
  what
• 5:39
  they
• 5:39
  are
• 5:40
  and
• 5:40
  that
• 5:40
  what
• 5:41
  burns
• 5:41
  them
• 5:41
  and
• 5:42
  the
• 5:42
  love
• 5:42
  comes
• 5:43
  with
• 5:43
  it.
• 5:44
  So
• 5:44
  there's
• 5:44
  a
• 5:44
  combination
• 5:45
  of
• 5:45
  both
• 5:46
  understanding
• 5:46
  and
• 5:47
  love
• 5:47
  at
• 5:47
  the
• 5:47
  same
• 5:48
  time.
• 5:48
  In
• 5:49
  the
• 5:49
  way
• 5:49
  of
• 5:49
  the
• 5:49
  path
• 5:50
  of
• 5:50
  the
• 5:50
  heart
• 5:50
  and
• 5:50
  the
• 5:51
  Dhyana
• 5:51
  approach.
• 5:52
  You
• 5:52
  know,
• 5:52
  Ramakrishna,
• 5:53
  if
• 5:53
  you
• 5:53
  read
• 5:53
  Ramakrishna,
• 5:54
  he
• 5:54
  was
• 5:55
  an
• 5:55
  ecstatic
• 5:56
  kind
• 5:56
  of
• 5:56
  mystic.
• 5:57
  And
• 5:57
  he
• 5:58
  was
• 5:58
  Advaita
• 5:58
  Vedanta.
• 5:59
  I
• 5:59
  mean,
• 5:59
  he
• 6:00
  was
• 6:00
  non
• 6:00
  dual,
• 6:00
  but
• 6:01
  at
• 6:01
  the
• 6:01
  same
• 6:01
  time
• 6:01
  he
• 6:01
  was
• 6:02
  about
• 6:02
  love.
• 6:02
  But
• 6:02
  he
• 6:03
  loved
• 6:03
  some
• 6:03
  goddess,
• 6:04
  I
• 6:04
  don't
• 6:04
  remember
• 6:05
  which
• 6:05
  one
• 6:05
  it
• 6:05
  is.
• 6:06
  It
• 6:06
  wasn't
• 6:07
  like
• 6:07
  loving
• 6:07
  the
• 6:08
  ultimate.
• 6:08
  He
• 6:08
  had
• 6:09
  a
• 6:09
  goddess
• 6:09
  representing
• 6:10
  the
• 6:10
  ultimate.
• 6:11
  And
• 6:11
  he
• 6:12
  was
• 6:12
  always
• 6:12
  raptured
• 6:13
  in
• 6:13
  love
• 6:14
  with
• 6:14
  the
• 6:14
  guys.
• 6:14
  Yes,
• 6:15
  I
• 6:15
  seem
• 6:15
  to
• 6:15
  remember
• 6:16
  him
• 6:16
  sometimes
• 6:17
  going
• 6:17
  into
• 6:17
  the
• 6:18
  formless
• 6:18
  and
• 6:19
  ecstatic.
• 6:19
  And
• 6:19
  then
• 6:20
  the
• 6:20
  love
• 6:20
  for
• 6:21
  the
• 6:21
  Goddess
• 6:21
  would
• 6:22
  draw
• 6:22
  him
• 6:22
  back
• 6:22
  down
• 6:23
  into
• 6:23
  form.
• 6:23
  It's
• 6:24
  like
• 6:24
  you
• 6:24
  got
• 6:25
  to
• 6:25
  pray.
• 6:25
  You're
• 6:26
  alternating
• 6:26
  between
• 6:27
  two
• 6:28
  types
• 6:28
  of
• 6:28
  ecstasy.
• 6:29
  Yeah.
• 6:29
  So
• 6:30
  in
• 6:30
  Diamond
• 6:31
  Approach,
• 6:32
  there's
• 6:32
  no
• 6:32
  God.
• 6:33
  There's
• 6:33
  no
• 6:33
  God.
• 6:33
  The
• 6:34
  ultimate
• 6:34
  truth
• 6:34
  is
• 6:35
  the
• 6:35
  same
• 6:35
  one.
• 6:36
  The
• 6:36
  path
• 6:36
  of
• 6:36
  the
• 6:37
  heart,
• 6:37
  the
• 6:37
  path
• 6:37
  of
• 6:38
  the
• 6:38
  mind,
• 6:38
  the
• 6:38
  path
• 6:39
  of
• 6:39
  the
• 6:39
  token
• 6:40
  being.
• 6:40
  And
• 6:41
  I
• 6:41
  just
• 6:41
  want
• 6:41
  to
• 6:41
  emphasize
• 6:42
  something,
• 6:42
  you
• 6:42
  pointed
• 6:43
  that
• 6:44
  the
• 6:44
  distinction
• 6:45
  between
• 6:46
  most
• 6:47
  paths
• 6:47
  of
• 6:48
  the
• 6:48
  love
• 6:48
  that
• 6:48
  I'm
• 6:49
  aware
• 6:49
  of,
• 6:49
  the
• 6:49
  Bhakti
• 6:50
  path,
• 6:50
  Ramakrishna.
• 6:51
  You
• 6:51
  mentioned
• 6:52
  the
• 6:53
  degree
• 6:53
  of
• 6:54
  inquiry
• 6:56
  you
• 6:56
  bring
• 6:56
  to
• 6:57
  the
• 6:57
  path
• 6:57
  of
• 6:57
  love
• 6:58
  in
• 6:58
  your
• 6:58
  diamond
• 6:59
  approach
• 7:00
  is
• 7:00
  as
• 7:00
  far
• 7:00
  as
• 7:00
  I
• 7:01
  can
• 7:01
  tell,
• 7:01
  quite
• 7:01
  distinctive.
• 7:02
  And
• 7:03
  you
• 7:03
  mentioned
• 7:04
  that
• 7:04
  love
• 7:05
  purifies
• 7:06
  or
• 7:06
  dissolves
• 7:07
  box
• 7:08
  and
• 7:08
  barriers.
• 7:09
  But
• 7:09
  you've
• 7:09
  also
• 7:10
  said
• 7:10
  that
• 7:10
  in
• 7:10
  the
• 7:10
  Diamond
• 7:11
  Approach
• 7:11
  part
• 7:12
  of
• 7:12
  path
• 7:13
  of
• 7:13
  love,
• 7:14
  that
• 7:14
  the
• 7:14
  inquiry
• 7:15
  also
• 7:15
  serves
• 7:16
  to
• 7:16
  dissolve
• 7:16
  the
• 7:17
  block
• 7:17
  of
• 7:17
  values.
• 7:18
  Yeah.
• 7:19
  And
• 7:19
  it's
• 7:19
  true.
• 7:20
  So,
• 7:20
  I
• 7:20
  mean,
• 7:21
  I
• 7:21
  don't
• 7:21
  know
• 7:21
  if
• 7:21
  there's
• 7:22
  any
• 7:22
  other
• 7:22
  path
• 7:22
  that
• 7:23
  does
• 7:23
  the
• 7:23
  same
• 7:23
  thing.
• 7:24
  Maybe
• 7:24
  some
• 7:24
  of
• 7:25
  the
• 7:25
  Sufi
• 7:25
  lineages
• 7:26
  do
• 7:27
  something
• 7:27
  somewhat
• 7:28
  similar.
• 7:29
  I
• 7:29
  don't
• 7:29
  think
• 7:29
  as
• 7:30
  completely
• 7:30
  as
• 7:30
  we
• 7:31
  do
• 7:31
  the
• 7:31
  Darren
• 7:31
  approach.
• 7:32
  For
• 7:32
  some
• 7:32
  reason,
• 7:32
  the
• 7:33
  way
• 7:33
  Darren
• 7:33
  Approach
• 7:34
  developed
• 7:35
  that
• 7:35
  inquiry
• 7:36
  was
• 7:36
  from
• 7:36
  the
• 7:36
  beginning
• 7:37
  an
• 7:37
  important
• 7:37
  part
• 7:38
  of
• 7:38
  it.
• 7:39
  So
• 7:39
  as
• 7:39
  I
• 7:39
  was
• 7:40
  undergoing
• 7:40
  through
• 7:41
  the
• 7:41
  path
• 7:41
  of
• 7:41
  love,
• 7:42
  the
• 7:42
  inquiry
• 7:43
  was
• 7:43
  there.
• 7:43
  It
• 7:43
  was
• 7:43
  already
• 7:44
  part
• 7:44
  of
• 7:44
  me.
• 7:44
  So
• 7:45
  it
• 7:45
  was
• 7:45
  happening
• 7:45
  and
• 7:46
  it
• 7:46
  helped
• 7:47
  into
• 7:47
  penetrating
• 7:48
  the
• 7:49
  obstacles
• 7:51
  in
• 7:51
  the
• 7:51
  way
• 7:52
  of
• 7:52
  the
• 7:52
  heart.
• 7:53
  The
• 7:53
  obstacle
• 7:54
  of
• 7:54
  the
• 7:54
  heart
• 7:55
  got
• 7:55
  the
• 7:56
  inquiry
• 7:56
  help.
• 7:57
  It
• 7:57
  might
• 7:57
  have
• 7:58
  taken
• 7:58
  me
• 7:58
  longer
• 7:59
  if
• 7:59
  it
• 7:59
  wasn't
• 8:00
  for
• 8:00
  inquiry.
• 8:03
  And
• 8:03
  there's
• 8:03
  also,
• 8:03
  it
• 8:04
  seems
• 8:04
  like
• 8:04
  in
• 8:05
  both
• 8:06
  paths,
• 8:06
  in
• 8:07
  the
• 8:07
  Diamond
• 8:07
  Approach,
• 8:08
  there
• 8:08
  is
• 8:09
  at
• 8:09
  bottom
• 8:09
  a
• 8:10
  profound
• 8:11
  trust
• 8:11
  in
• 8:12
  being.
• 8:12
  In
• 8:12
  the
• 8:13
  inquiry
• 8:14
  centered
• 8:14
  approach,
• 8:15
  it's
• 8:16
  there's
• 8:16
  the
• 8:16
  trust
• 8:17
  that
• 8:17
  simply
• 8:18
  being
• 8:18
  with
• 8:19
  experience,
• 8:19
  it
• 8:20
  will
• 8:20
  unfold
• 8:21
  in
• 8:21
  beneficial
• 8:22
  healing,
• 8:22
  actualizing,
• 8:23
  transcending
• 8:24
  ways.
• 8:24
  And
• 8:25
  in
• 8:25
  the
• 8:25
  path
• 8:25
  of
• 8:25
  love,
• 8:26
  it
• 8:26
  feels
• 8:26
  like
• 8:27
  there's
• 8:27
  this
• 8:27
  inherent
• 8:28
  trust
• 8:28
  in
• 8:29
  love
• 8:29
  itself
• 8:30
  will
• 8:30
  take
• 8:31
  us
• 8:31
  wherever
• 8:31
  we
• 8:31
  need
• 8:31
  to
• 8:32
  go.
• 8:32
  Yes,
• 8:33
  there
• 8:33
  is
• 8:34
  trust
• 8:34
  in
• 8:34
  all
• 8:34
  the
• 8:35
  path.
• 8:35
  And
• 8:35
  trust
• 8:35
  is
• 8:36
  needed
• 8:36
  generally
• 8:37
  to
• 8:37
  go
• 8:38
  through
• 8:38
  the
• 8:38
  inner
• 8:39
  path
• 8:39
  through
• 8:40
  any
• 8:40
  modality
• 8:41
  and
• 8:42
  path
• 8:43
  of
• 8:43
  love,
• 8:43
  however,
• 8:44
  it's
• 8:44
  more
• 8:45
  like
• 8:45
  you're
• 8:46
  pulled
• 8:46
  and
• 8:46
  pushed.
• 8:47
  There's
• 8:47
  no
• 8:47
  choice.
• 8:48
  You
• 8:48
  can't
• 8:49
  say,
• 8:49
  oh,
• 8:49
  I'm
• 8:49
  scared
• 8:50
  or
• 8:50
  I
• 8:50
  don't
• 8:51
  trust.
• 8:52
  I
• 8:52
  mean,
• 8:52
  the
• 8:53
  force
• 8:53
  comes
• 8:53
  and
• 8:54
  pulls
• 8:54
  you,
• 8:55
  it
• 8:55
  melts
• 8:56
  you,
• 8:56
  it
• 8:56
  overwhelms
• 8:57
  you,
• 8:57
  you
• 8:57
  know,
• 8:58
  and
• 8:58
  sometimes
• 8:59
  it
• 8:59
  overwhelms
• 9:00
  you
• 9:00
  with
• 9:00
  a
• 9:00
  lot
• 9:00
  of
• 9:00
  wounding.
• 9:01
  Sometimes
• 9:01
  it
• 9:01
  overwhelms
• 9:02
  you
• 9:02
  with
• 9:02
  ecstasy.
• 9:03
  And
• 9:04
  the
• 9:04
  difference
• 9:05
  between
• 9:05
  the
• 9:05
  path
• 9:05
  of
• 9:06
  love
• 9:06
  and
• 9:06
  that
• 9:06
  one
• 9:07
  is
• 9:07
  how
• 9:08
  the
• 9:08
  obstacles
• 9:09
  melt.
• 9:10
  And
• 9:10
  the
• 9:10
  path
• 9:10
  of
• 9:10
  love,
• 9:11
  they
• 9:11
  tend
• 9:11
  to
• 9:12
  not
• 9:13
  just
• 9:13
  dissipate,
• 9:14
  they
• 9:14
  melt
• 9:15
  in
• 9:15
  love,
• 9:16
  they
• 9:17
  melt
• 9:17
  in
• 9:17
  a
• 9:17
  puddle
• 9:18
  of
• 9:19
  sweetness.
• 9:20
  So
• 9:20
  there
• 9:21
  is
• 9:23
  recurrence
• 9:24
  of
• 9:24
  ecstasy
• 9:25
  and
• 9:26
  joy
• 9:26
  and
• 9:28
  melting
• 9:28
  kind
• 9:29
  of
• 9:29
  honey
• 9:29
  kind
• 9:30
  of.
• 9:30
  And
• 9:30
  Hameed,
• 9:31
  can
• 9:31
  we
• 9:31
  take
• 9:31
  things
• 9:31
  that.
• 9:32
  I
• 9:32
  mean,
• 9:32
  most
• 9:32
  of
• 9:33
  us
• 9:33
  have
• 9:34
  beings
• 9:34
  that
• 9:34
  we
• 9:35
  love
• 9:35
  deeply.
• 9:35
  Love
• 9:35
  our
• 9:36
  parents,
• 9:36
  our
• 9:36
  dog,
• 9:37
  our
• 9:37
  wife,
• 9:38
  our
• 9:38
  lovers,
• 9:39
  our
• 9:39
  best
• 9:40
  friends.
• 9:41
  And
• 9:41
  those
• 9:42
  are
• 9:42
  all
• 9:43
  temporary,
• 9:44
  at
• 9:44
  least
• 9:44
  in
• 9:45
  the
• 9:45
  body.
• 9:46
  And
• 9:46
  that
• 9:46
  can
• 9:47
  bring
• 9:47
  on
• 9:48
  great
• 9:48
  pain
• 9:49
  of
• 9:49
  loss
• 9:50
  when
• 9:50
  that
• 9:50
  happens.
• 9:51
  And
• 9:52
  can
• 9:52
  that
• 9:52
  be
• 9:52
  used
• 9:53
  as
• 9:53
  fuel
• 9:54
  to
• 9:55
  work
• 9:55
  through,
• 9:55
  to
• 9:56
  get
• 9:57
  through
• 9:57
  that
• 9:57
  deep
• 9:57
  sense
• 9:58
  of
• 9:58
  loss
• 9:58
  and
• 9:58
  love,
• 9:59
  to
• 9:59
  get
• 9:59
  to
• 9:59
  the
• 10:00
  inner
• 10:00
  love
• 10:01
  and
• 10:01
  the
• 10:01
  inner
• 10:01
  beloved?
• 10:02
  I
• 10:02
  mean.
• 10:02
  And
• 10:02
  that
• 10:02
  happens
• 10:03
  for
• 10:03
  some
• 10:03
  people
• 10:04
  for
• 10:04
  losing
• 10:05
  a
• 10:05
  loved
• 10:05
  one.
• 10:05
  A
• 10:05
  wife
• 10:06
  or
• 10:06
  husband,
• 10:07
  for
• 10:07
  instance,
• 10:08
  can
• 10:08
  actually
• 10:10
  begin
• 10:10
  their
• 10:11
  inner
• 10:11
  path
• 10:11
  of
• 10:12
  love
• 10:12
  because
• 10:13
  they
• 10:13
  lose
• 10:13
  the
• 10:13
  outer
• 10:14
  love
• 10:14
  has
• 10:14
  been
• 10:15
  so
• 10:15
  consuming
• 10:16
  feeling
• 10:16
  most
• 10:17
  of
• 10:17
  their
• 10:17
  heart
• 10:18
  and
• 10:18
  mind.
• 10:19
  And
• 10:19
  when
• 10:19
  that's
• 10:20
  gone,
• 10:21
  there's
• 10:21
  nothing
• 10:22
  but
• 10:22
  to
• 10:22
  move
• 10:22
  inward.
• 10:23
  The
• 10:23
  inward
• 10:24
  move.
• 10:25
  And
• 10:25
  then
• 10:26
  they
• 10:26
  find
• 10:27
  possibility
• 10:27
  to
• 10:27
  find
• 10:27
  the
• 10:28
  inner
• 10:28
  beloved.
• 10:30
  That
• 10:30
  can
• 10:30
  happen.
• 10:31
  Yes.
• 10:32
  You've
• 10:32
  made
• 10:32
  the
• 10:32
  point
• 10:33
  that
• 10:33
  our
• 10:34
  usual
• 10:34
  fickleness
• 10:34
  and
• 10:35
  many
• 10:35
  loves.
• 10:35
  Or
• 10:36
  and
• 10:36
  you
• 10:36
  and
• 10:37
  John
• 10:37
  pointing
• 10:37
  out
• 10:37
  now
• 10:38
  even
• 10:38
  the
• 10:38
  loss
• 10:38
  of
• 10:39
  love
• 10:39
  can
• 10:39
  be
• 10:39
  the
• 10:40
  stimulus
• 10:40
  for
• 10:40
  going
• 10:41
  deeper
• 10:41
  and
• 10:41
  recognizing
• 10:42
  the
• 10:42
  inner
• 10:43
  beloved.
• 10:43
  I'm
• 10:44
  thinking
• 10:44
  of
• 10:45
  the
• 10:45
  only
• 10:46
  past
• 10:46
  I
• 10:47
  know
• 10:47
  that
• 10:47
  uses
• 10:48
  peer
• 10:48
  relationships
• 10:49
  and
• 10:49
  love
• 10:49
  in
• 10:49
  peer
• 10:50
  relationships
• 10:51
  as
• 10:51
  its
• 10:51
  central
• 10:52
  focus
• 10:52
  is
• 10:53
  a
• 10:53
  curiously
• 10:54
  titled
• 10:54
  path.
• 10:54
  A
• 10:55
  course
• 10:55
  in
• 10:55
  miracles,
• 10:58
  contemporary
• 10:58
  teaching.
• 10:59
  And
• 11:00
  it
• 11:00
  very
• 11:01
  explicitly
• 11:02
  focuses
• 11:02
  on
• 11:03
  relationship
• 11:04
  as
• 11:04
  its
• 11:05
  way,
• 11:05
  as
• 11:05
  its
• 11:06
  path.
• 11:06
  And
• 11:06
  clearly
• 11:07
  a
• 11:07
  path
• 11:07
  of
• 11:07
  love
• 11:07
  and
• 11:08
  also
• 11:08
  somewhat
• 11:09
  of
• 11:09
  awakening.
• 11:09
  But
• 11:10
  I
• 11:10
  don't
• 11:10
  know.
• 11:10
  Another
• 11:10
  path
• 11:11
  that
• 11:11
  explicitly
• 11:12
  uses
• 11:12
  some
• 11:13
  skill
• 11:13
  for
• 11:13
  making
• 11:13
  fully.
• 11:16
  Yeah.
• 11:16
  I
• 11:16
  think
• 11:16
  a
• 11:16
  relationship
• 11:17
  by
• 11:17
  itself
• 11:18
  can
• 11:18
  be
• 11:18
  a
• 11:18
  path
• 11:19
  on
• 11:19
  its
• 11:19
  own.
• 11:19
  Yeah.
• 11:20
  Which
• 11:20
  is
• 11:20
  not
• 11:21
  necessarily
• 11:21
  the
• 11:21
  path
• 11:22
  of
• 11:22
  love.
• 11:23
  It
• 11:23
  has
• 11:23
  love
• 11:24
  in
• 11:24
  it.
• 11:25
  But
• 11:25
  the
• 11:25
  path
• 11:26
  of
• 11:26
  love
• 11:26
  is
• 11:27
  seeing
• 11:27
  that
• 11:28
  all
• 11:28
  relationships
• 11:29
  are
• 11:30
  in
• 11:30
  the
• 11:30
  way
• 11:31
  except
• 11:31
  relationship
• 11:32
  with
• 11:32
  the
• 11:32
  inner
• 11:33
  beloved.
• 11:34
  So
• 11:34
  the
• 11:34
  outer
• 11:34
  relationship
• 11:35
  are
• 11:35
  not
• 11:36
  thrown
• 11:36
  away,
• 11:37
  but
• 11:37
  disengaged
• 11:38
  from.
• 11:39
  Seen
• 11:39
  as
• 11:40
  not
• 11:40
  what
• 11:41
  will
• 11:41
  bring
• 11:41
  fulfillment.
• 11:42
  It's
• 11:42
  not
• 11:43
  like
• 11:43
  I
• 11:43
  had
• 11:44
  to
• 11:44
  divorce
• 11:44
  my
• 11:45
  wife
• 11:45
  to
• 11:45
  engage,
• 11:46
  you
• 11:47
  know,
• 11:48
  bad
• 11:48
  love.
• 11:48
  I
• 11:49
  didn't.
• 11:49
  I
• 11:49
  was
• 11:49
  still
• 11:49
  loving
• 11:50
  her.
• 11:50
  However,
• 11:51
  when
• 11:51
  I
• 11:51
  was
• 11:52
  by
• 11:52
  myself.
• 11:53
  I
• 11:53
  forget
• 11:54
  all
• 11:54
  of
• 11:54
  those.
• 11:54
  My
• 11:55
  wife,
• 11:56
  everybody,
• 11:57
  my
• 11:57
  friends
• 11:58
  is
• 11:58
  the
• 11:58
  only
• 11:59
  inner
• 12:00
  movement
• 12:01
  and
• 12:01
  deep
• 12:02
  longing
• 12:02
  for
• 12:03
  a
• 12:03
  beloved.
• 12:03
  I
• 12:04
  still
• 12:04
  don't
• 12:04
  see
• 12:05
  until.
• 12:06
  That's
• 12:06
  very
• 12:06
  difficult.
• 12:07
  Yeah.
• 12:07
  And.
• 12:07
  Yeah,
• 12:08
  that's
• 12:08
  different.
• 12:09
  Yeah.
• 12:09
  It's
• 12:09
  not
• 12:10
  just
• 12:10
  relationship.
• 12:11
  Relationship
• 12:12
  is
• 12:12
  a
• 12:12
  large
• 12:13
  part
• 12:13
  of
• 12:13
  the
• 12:14
  path
• 12:14
  of
• 12:15
  love
• 12:15
  is
• 12:16
  a
• 12:16
  relationship
• 12:16
  to
• 12:16
  the
• 12:17
  inner
• 12:17
  beloved,
• 12:18
  not
• 12:18
  the
• 12:18
  outer
• 12:19
  people.
• 12:20
  That's
• 12:20
  a
• 12:20
  different
• 12:20
  kind
• 12:21
  of
• 12:21
  path.
• 12:22
  Yeah.
• 12:23
  And
• 12:24
  certainly
• 12:24
  this.
• 12:25
  The
• 12:25
  path
• 12:26
  of
• 12:26
  love
• 12:26
  as
• 12:26
  you're
• 12:26
  describing
• 12:27
  is
• 12:27
  very
• 12:27
  different
• 12:28
  from
• 12:28
  the
• 12:28
  more
• 12:29
  it's
• 12:29
  becoming
• 12:29
  quite
• 12:30
  popular.
• 12:30
  It's
• 12:31
  called
• 12:31
  a
• 12:31
  popular
• 12:32
  approach
• 12:34
  to
• 12:35
  both
• 12:35
  relationships
• 12:36
  and
• 12:36
  spirituality.
• 12:37
  Relationships
• 12:38
  as
• 12:38
  path.
• 12:39
  You're
• 12:39
  Drawing
• 12:40
  quite
• 12:40
  a
• 12:40
  distinction
• 12:41
  there.
• 12:42
  Yeah.
• 12:42
  And
• 12:42
  I'm
• 12:43
  not
• 12:43
  saying
• 12:43
  that
• 12:44
  isn't
• 12:44
  true.
• 12:44
  It's
• 12:45
  possible.
• 12:46
  It
• 12:46
  can
• 12:46
  be
• 12:46
  a
• 12:46
  path,
• 12:47
  you
• 12:48
  know,
• 12:48
  I
• 12:48
  think
• 12:48
  it
• 12:49
  can
• 12:49
  be
• 12:49
  a
• 12:49
  powerful
• 12:49
  path.
• 12:50
  But
• 12:51
  the
• 12:51
  devotional
• 12:52
  path
• 12:52
  is
• 12:53
  a
• 12:53
  different
• 12:53
  thing.
• 12:54
  Devotional
• 12:55
  path,
• 12:55
  inward
• 12:56
  movement
• 12:58
  is
• 12:58
  emptying
• 12:59
  the
• 12:59
  heart
• 12:59
  of
• 13:00
  all
• 13:00
  that
• 13:00
  it
• 13:01
  loves.
• 13:01
  So
• 13:01
  that
• 13:01
  is
• 13:02
  not
• 13:02
  the
• 13:02
  inner
• 13:03
  beloved
• 13:04
  forgetting
• 13:05
  all
• 13:05
  about
• 13:05
  them
• 13:06
  until
• 13:06
  the
• 13:07
  heart
• 13:07
  goes
• 13:07
  through
• 13:08
  complete
• 13:09
  darkness,
• 13:10
  complete
• 13:10
  emptiness,
• 13:12
  which
• 13:12
  we
• 13:12
  call
• 13:12
  mystical
• 13:13
  poverty,
• 13:14
  which
• 13:14
  is,
• 13:15
  you
• 13:15
  know,
• 13:16
  mystical
• 13:16
  poverty
• 13:17
  means
• 13:17
  of
• 13:17
  the
• 13:18
  heart,
• 13:18
  that
• 13:18
  the
• 13:18
  heart
• 13:19
  has
• 13:19
  nothing
• 13:19
  left
• 13:20
  in
• 13:20
  it,
• 13:21
  you
• 13:22
  know,
• 13:23
  and
• 13:23
  has
• 13:24
  to
• 13:24
  be
• 13:24
  completely
• 13:24
  empty.
• 13:25
  And
• 13:25
  so
• 13:26
  to
• 13:26
  have
• 13:26
  another
• 13:27
  beloved
• 13:28
  be
• 13:28
  there
• 13:30
  in
• 13:30
  the
• 13:30
  heart.
• 13:31
  And
• 13:32
  our
• 13:32
  beloved
• 13:33
  said,
• 13:33
  no
• 13:33
  way.
• 13:34
  I
• 13:34
  want
• 13:34
  Shah.
• 13:35
  Well,
• 13:36
  with
• 13:36
  Rumi,
• 13:37
  Sham
• 13:37
  had
• 13:37
  to
• 13:38
  leave,
• 13:38
  right?
• 13:38
  He
• 13:38
  disappeared
• 13:39
  for
• 13:40
  that
• 13:41
  breakthrough
• 13:41
  that
• 13:41
  seemed
• 13:42
  to
• 13:42
  change
• 13:42
  his
• 13:42
  whole
• 13:43
  story.
• 13:44
  Well,
• 13:44
  I
• 13:44
  mean,
• 13:44
  the
• 13:44
  way
• 13:45
  Suvi
• 13:45
  say
• 13:46
  that
• 13:46
  the
• 13:46
  inner
• 13:47
  beloved
• 13:47
  is
• 13:47
  very
• 13:48
  jealous
• 13:48
  lover.
• 13:48
  That's
• 13:49
  true.
• 13:49
  Completely
• 13:50
  jealous.
• 13:51
  It
• 13:51
  can't
• 13:51
  have
• 13:51
  any
• 13:52
  other
• 13:52
  beloved
• 13:53
  there.
• 13:53
  Not
• 13:54
  a
• 13:54
  trace,
• 13:55
  another
• 13:55
  beloved.
• 13:56
  The
• 13:56
  heart
• 13:57
  has
• 13:57
  to
• 13:57
  be
• 13:57
  completely
• 13:59
  empty
• 13:59
  and
• 13:59
  pure
• 14:00
  and
• 14:01
  only
• 14:01
  love.
• 14:01
  Z?
• 14:02
  Yeah.
• 14:02
  The
• 14:02
  Old
• 14:02
  Testament
• 14:03
  says
• 14:03
  that
• 14:03
  I
• 14:04
  am
• 14:04
  a
• 14:04
  jealous
• 14:04
  God
• 14:05
  and
• 14:05
  thou
• 14:05
  shalt
• 14:06
  have
• 14:06
  no
• 14:06
  other
• 14:06
  gods
• 14:06
  before
• 14:07
  me.
• 14:08
  Yeah,
• 14:09
  something
• 14:09
  like
• 14:09
  that.
• 14:10
  Yeah.
• 14:10
  But
• 14:10
  we
• 14:10
  need
• 14:11
  to
• 14:11
  remember
• 14:11
  when
• 14:12
  we
• 14:13
  meet
• 14:13
  the
• 14:13
  inner
• 14:14
  beloved,
• 14:14
  we
• 14:14
  become
• 14:15
  one
• 14:15
  with
• 14:15
  the
• 14:15
  inner
• 14:16
  beloved.
• 14:18
  And
• 14:18
  we
• 14:19
  recognize
• 14:20
  that
• 14:20
  the
• 14:20
  inner
• 14:21
  beloved,
• 14:22
  the
• 14:22
  inner
• 14:22
  nature
• 14:23
  of
• 14:23
  the
• 14:23
  heart,
• 14:24
  which
• 14:24
  become
• 14:24
  the
• 14:25
  inner
• 14:25
  nature
• 14:25
  of
• 14:25
  the
• 14:26
  whole
• 14:26
  universe.
• 14:27
  We
• 14:27
  recognize
• 14:28
  then
• 14:29
  we
• 14:30
  love
• 14:30
  everything.
• 14:31
  The
• 14:31
  love
• 14:31
  is
• 14:31
  the
• 14:32
  nature
• 14:32
  of
• 14:32
  the
• 14:32
  beloved.
• 14:33
  The
• 14:33
  beloved
• 14:33
  loves
• 14:34
  everything.
• 14:35
  And
• 14:35
  then
• 14:36
  we
• 14:36
  recognize
• 14:37
  that
• 14:38
  it's
• 14:38
  okay
• 14:38
  to
• 14:39
  love
• 14:39
  others.
• 14:40
  And
• 14:40
  then
• 14:41
  not
• 14:41
  in
• 14:42
  competition,
• 14:42
  but
• 14:43
  as
• 14:43
  an
• 14:43
  expression
• 14:44
  of
• 14:45
  loving
• 14:45
  the
• 14:45
  beloved.
• 14:46
  Because
• 14:46
  they
• 14:46
  all
• 14:47
  are
• 14:47
  expression
• 14:48
  and
• 14:48
  are
• 14:48
  beloved.
• 14:49
  They're
• 14:49
  all,
• 14:51
  you
• 14:51
  know,
• 14:51
  the
• 14:52
  visualization
• 14:52
  of
• 14:53
  the
• 14:53
  inner
• 14:53
  beloved.
• 14:54
  And
• 14:54
  that
• 14:54
  in
• 14:55
  fact
• 14:55
  the
• 14:56
  path
• 14:56
  or
• 14:56
  legend
• 14:57
  can
• 14:57
  succeed
• 14:58
  if
• 14:58
  it
• 14:58
  get
• 14:59
  to
• 14:59
  that
• 14:59
  point
• 15:00
  of
• 15:00
  seeing
• 15:00
  that
• 15:01
  the
• 15:01
  other
• 15:02
  really
• 15:02
  stands
• 15:03
  for
• 15:03
  the
• 15:03
  inner
• 15:04
  truth.
• 15:04
  Not
• 15:05
  just
• 15:05
  an
• 15:05
  other
• 15:06
  than
• 15:06
  me,
• 15:07
  but
• 15:07
  really
• 15:08
  an
• 15:09
  expression
• 15:09
  of
• 15:10
  the
• 15:10
  deepest
• 15:10
  truth.
• 15:11
  If
• 15:11
  we
• 15:11
  see
• 15:11
  that
• 15:12
  way,
• 15:12
  the
• 15:12
  relational
• 15:13
  path
• 15:13
  can
• 15:13
  work
• 15:13
  because
• 15:14
  that's
• 15:14
  what
• 15:14
  happens
• 15:15
  in
• 15:16
  fulfillment
• 15:16
  or
• 15:17
  the
• 15:17
  path
• 15:17
  of
• 15:17
  love.
• 15:18
  When
• 15:18
  we
• 15:20
  finally
• 15:20
  behold
• 15:21
  then
• 15:21
  our
• 15:21
  beloved,
• 15:22
  it's.
• 15:23
  For
• 15:23
  me,
• 15:23
  it
• 15:23
  was.
• 15:24
  I
• 15:25
  remember
• 15:25
  what
• 15:25
  happens.
• 15:26
  It
• 15:26
  was
• 15:26
  like
• 15:27
  I
• 15:27
  was
• 15:27
  looking,
• 15:28
  I
• 15:28
  mean,
• 15:28
  I
• 15:28
  was
• 15:28
  going
• 15:29
  through
• 15:29
  all
• 15:29
  that
• 15:29
  process
• 15:30
  at
• 15:30
  some
• 15:30
  point,
• 15:31
  looked
• 15:31
  inside
• 15:32
  and
• 15:32
  it
• 15:33
  was
• 15:33
  like
• 15:34
  thunder,
• 15:35
  lightning.
• 15:36
  And
• 15:37
  it
• 15:37
  was
• 15:37
  like
• 15:38
  a
• 15:38
  big
• 15:38
  storm
• 15:39
  and
• 15:40
  a
• 15:40
  big
• 15:40
  storm,
• 15:41
  thunder,
• 15:41
  lightning.
• 15:42
  And
• 15:42
  turned
• 15:43
  out
• 15:43
  the
• 15:43
  lightning
• 15:44
  and
• 15:44
  thunder
• 15:44
  was
• 15:45
  the
• 15:45
  outer
• 15:45
  emanation
• 15:46
  of
• 15:46
  this
• 15:47
  inner
• 15:47
  beloved
• 15:49
  appeared
• 15:50
  and
• 15:51
  took
• 15:51
  his
• 15:51
  place
• 15:51
  in
• 15:51
  the
• 15:52
  heart
• 15:52
  and
• 15:52
  occupied
• 15:53
  it
• 15:53
  fully
• 15:54
  completely
• 15:54
  and
• 15:55
  felt
• 15:55
  it's
• 15:55
  just
• 15:56
  right
• 15:57
  what
• 15:58
  should
• 15:58
  be
• 15:58
  there
• 15:59
  that
• 16:00
  the
• 16:00
  true
• 16:00
  owner
• 16:01
  of
• 16:01
  the
• 16:01
  heart,
• 16:02
  the
• 16:03
  true
• 16:04
  only
• 16:04
  dweller
• 16:05
  of
• 16:05
  the
• 16:05
  heart.
• 16:06
  And
• 16:06
  that
• 16:07
  and
• 16:07
  we
• 16:08
  realized.
• 16:08
  I
• 16:09
  realized
• 16:09
  that
• 16:09
  it
• 16:10
  was
• 16:10
  always
• 16:10
  like
• 16:10
  that,
• 16:11
  but
• 16:11
  I
• 16:11
  just
• 16:11
  didn't
• 16:11
  know
• 16:12
  it.
• 16:12
  That
• 16:13
  all
• 16:13
  the
• 16:13
  things
• 16:14
  I
• 16:14
  loved
• 16:14
  because
• 16:14
  they
• 16:15
  were
• 16:15
  somehow
• 16:16
  expression
• 16:16
  of
• 16:16
  the
• 16:17
  inner
• 16:17
  beloved,
• 16:17
  but
• 16:18
  I
• 16:18
  didn't
• 16:18
  know
• 16:18
  it.
• 16:18
  Well,
• 16:19
  that
• 16:19
  was
• 16:21
  as
• 16:21
  you
• 16:21
  described
• 16:22
  that
• 16:22
  experience
• 16:23
  to
• 16:23
  me,
• 16:23
  that
• 16:24
  was
• 16:24
  a
• 16:24
  very
• 16:24
  powerful
• 16:25
  transmission.
• 16:26
  It's
• 16:26
  like
• 16:28
  I'm
• 16:29
  still
• 16:29
  vibrating
• 16:30
  from
• 16:31
  your
• 16:31
  description.
• 16:32
  Well,
• 16:32
  for
• 16:33
  me,
• 16:33
  powerful
• 16:33
  experience
• 16:34
  too.
• 16:34
  I
• 16:34
  was
• 16:35
  surprised
• 16:36
  to
• 16:36
  see,
• 16:37
  I
• 16:37
  mean,
• 16:37
  thunder
• 16:38
  lighting
• 16:38
  just
• 16:39
  like
• 16:39
  outside
• 16:39
  in
• 16:39
  a
• 16:40
  big
• 16:40
  storm.
• 16:41
  It
• 16:41
  was
• 16:41
  within
• 16:42
  the
• 16:42
  heart.
• 16:42
  The
• 16:42
  heart
• 16:43
  was
• 16:43
  big.
• 16:43
  Like
• 16:44
  I
• 16:44
  had
• 16:44
  no
• 16:44
  limit
• 16:45
  how
• 16:45
  big
• 16:45
  it
• 16:46
  felt.
• 16:47
  And
• 16:47
  it
• 16:48
  was
• 16:48
  like
• 16:48
  a
• 16:49
  dark
• 16:49
  night
• 16:50
  with
• 16:50
  lightning.
• 16:51
  And
• 16:51
  the
• 16:52
  lightning
• 16:52
  told
• 16:52
  me
• 16:53
  the
• 16:53
  inner
• 16:53
  beloved
• 16:54
  like
• 16:54
  lightning.
• 16:55
  That
• 16:55
  light
• 16:55
  that
• 16:56
  revealed.
• 16:56
  Oh
• 16:56
  yeah.
• 16:57
  This
• 16:57
  is
• 16:57
  this
• 16:58
  mystery,
• 16:58
  this
• 16:59
  beautiful
• 16:59
  mystery.
• 17:01
  The
• 17:01
  luminous
• 17:03
  darkness.
• 17:04
  Ooh,
• 17:05
  numbness.
• 17:06
  And
• 17:06
  it
• 17:07
  turned
• 17:07
  out
• 17:07
  it's
• 17:07
  the
• 17:07
  same
• 17:08
  thing
• 17:08
  and
• 17:08
  emptiness
• 17:09
  that
• 17:09
  the
• 17:09
  Buddhas
• 17:09
  talk
• 17:10
  about.
• 17:10
  The
• 17:11
  inner
• 17:11
  beloved
• 17:12
  is
• 17:13
  the
• 17:14
  empty
• 17:14
  awareness,
• 17:15
  the
• 17:15
  movie
• 17:16
  that
• 17:16
  the
• 17:16
  doctor
• 17:16
  talks
• 17:17
  about,
• 17:17
  except
• 17:18
  now
• 17:18
  it
• 17:19
  is
• 17:19
  the
• 17:20
  inner
• 17:21
  beloved
• 17:21
  and
• 17:21
  the
• 17:22
  source
• 17:22
  of
• 17:22
  love
• 17:23
  and
• 17:24
  the
• 17:24
  source
• 17:24
  of
• 17:24
  the
• 17:24
  universe.
• 17:25
  Yeah,
• 17:26
  you
• 17:26
  talk
• 17:26
  about
• 17:26
  it
• 17:27
  being
• 17:27
  the
• 17:27
  inner
• 17:28
  beloved
• 17:28
  is
• 17:29
  beyond
• 17:29
  being.
• 17:30
  It's
• 17:31
  beyond
• 17:31
  God,
• 17:32
  it's
• 17:32
  beyond
• 17:32
  non
• 17:32
  duality.
• 17:33
  It
• 17:34
  seems
• 17:34
  to
• 17:34
  be
• 17:34
  something.
• 17:35
  So
• 17:35
  just
• 17:36
  as
• 17:36
  you
• 17:36
  just
• 17:37
  said,
• 17:37
  the
• 17:37
  source
• 17:37
  of
• 17:37
  the
• 17:38
  universe.
• 17:38
  All
• 17:38
  of
• 17:38
  it.
• 17:39
  Yeah.
• 17:39
  As
• 17:39
  a
• 17:40
  non
• 17:40
  duality
• 17:41
  is
• 17:41
  an
• 17:42
  outer
• 17:42
  expression
• 17:43
  of
• 17:43
  it.
• 17:44
  When
• 17:45
  we.
• 17:46
  The
• 17:46
  inner
• 17:46
  beloved
• 17:47
  has
• 17:47
  nothing
• 17:47
  to
• 17:47
  do
• 17:48
  with
• 17:48
  duality.
• 17:48
  Non
• 17:48
  duality
• 17:49
  is
• 17:49
  a
• 17:50
  mystery.
• 17:50
  And
• 17:50
  it
• 17:50
  is
• 17:51
  a
• 17:51
  kind
• 17:51
  of
• 17:52
  an
• 17:52
  ecstatic
• 17:54
  annihilating
• 17:56
  mystery.
• 17:57
  And
• 17:57
  call
• 17:58
  it
• 17:58
  emptiness.
• 17:58
  You
• 17:59
  call
• 17:59
  it
• 17:59
  nothingness,
• 18:00
  you
• 18:00
  call
• 18:00
  it
• 18:00
  like
• 18:02
  complete
• 18:02
  effacement
• 18:03
  of
• 18:03
  everything.
• 18:05
  And
• 18:06
  from
• 18:06
  there
• 18:07
  its
• 18:07
  radiance
• 18:09
  becomes
• 18:09
  the
• 18:10
  world
• 18:10
  that
• 18:10
  we
• 18:10
  know.
• 18:11
  And
• 18:12
  that
• 18:12
  world
• 18:12
  is
• 18:12
  non
• 18:13
  dual.
• 18:14
  So
• 18:14
  non
• 18:14
  duality
• 18:15
  follows
• 18:15
  this
• 18:16
  experience
• 18:16
  of
• 18:16
  the
• 18:16
  inner
• 18:17
  beloved.
• 18:17
  Then
• 18:17
  it
• 18:17
  becomes
• 18:18
  not
• 18:18
  just
• 18:18
  annihilation,
• 18:19
  but
• 18:19
  becomes
• 18:20
  a
• 18:20
  connection,
• 18:20
  a
• 18:21
  relationship
• 18:22
  from
• 18:23
  the
• 18:23
  heart
• 18:24
  to
• 18:24
  the
• 18:24
  everything.
• 18:25
  Yeah.
• 18:26
  So
• 18:26
  the
• 18:27
  inner
• 18:27
  beloved,
• 18:28
  the
• 18:28
  inner
• 18:30
  beautiful,
• 18:30
  luminous
• 18:32
  emptiness
• 18:33
  becomes
• 18:34
  inseparable
• 18:36
  from
• 18:37
  the
• 18:38
  world
• 18:38
  as
• 18:39
  its
• 18:39
  outer
• 18:40
  expression,
• 18:40
  as
• 18:42
  its
• 18:42
  role.
• 18:43
  Its
• 18:43
  body,
• 18:45
  like
• 18:46
  the
• 18:47
  universe
• 18:48
  becomes
• 18:49
  the
• 18:49
  outer
• 18:50
  body,
• 18:51
  the
• 18:51
  outer
• 18:51
  skin
• 18:52
  of
• 18:53
  the
• 18:53
  inner
• 18:54
  beloved.
• 18:55
  So
• 18:56
  it's
• 18:56
  made
• 18:56
  out
• 18:56
  of
• 18:56
  light,
• 18:57
  made
• 18:57
  out
• 18:57
  of
• 18:57
  love.
• 18:58
  A
• 18:58
  loving
• 18:59
  light,
• 18:59
  loving
• 19:00
  awareness.
• 19:01
  Transparent,
• 19:01
  beautiful.
• 19:02
  Luminous.
• 19:03
  And
• 19:04
  nothing
• 19:04
  is
• 19:05
  separate
• 19:05
  from
• 19:05
  anything
• 19:06
  else.
• 19:06
  The
• 19:06
  whole
• 19:06
  world
• 19:07
  is
• 19:07
  not
• 19:07
  separate
• 19:08
  from
• 19:08
  the
• 19:08
  beloved.
• 19:09
  Nothing
• 19:10
  in
• 19:10
  the
• 19:10
  world
• 19:10
  is
• 19:11
  separate
• 19:11
  from
• 19:11
  anything
• 19:12
  else.
• 19:12
  It's
• 19:12
  all
• 19:13
  one
• 19:14
  tapestry.
• 19:15
  One,
• 19:17
  you
• 19:18
  could
• 19:18
  say
• 19:19
  one
• 19:20
  manifold.
• 19:22
  I
• 19:22
  think
• 19:23
  you're.
• 19:24
  There's
• 19:24
  hope
• 19:24
  for
• 19:24
  me.
• 19:25
  This
• 19:25
  last
• 19:26
  several
• 19:26
  minutes
• 19:27
  as
• 19:27
  you've
• 19:27
  described,
• 19:28
  your
• 19:28
  experience
• 19:29
  has
• 19:29
  been
• 19:30
  so
• 19:30
  impactful
• 19:31
  and
• 19:31
  beautiful.
• 19:32
  I'm
• 19:32
  teary.
• 19:34
  So
• 19:36
  even
• 19:36
  someone
• 19:36
  who
• 19:37
  are
• 19:37
  non
• 19:37
  bio.
• 19:38
  Bringing
• 19:38
  out
• 19:38
  the
• 19:39
  love
• 19:39
  in
• 19:39
  your
• 19:39
  heart,
• 19:39
  I
• 19:40
  can
• 19:40
  see
• 19:40
  it.
• 19:41
  Yeah,
• 19:42
  well,
• 19:42
  I
• 19:43
  mean
• 19:43
  you
• 19:43
  always
• 19:43
  had
• 19:44
  love.
• 19:44
  You
• 19:44
  know,
• 19:45
  I
• 19:45
  was
• 19:45
  just
• 19:46
  watching.
• 19:47
  It's
• 19:48
  getting
• 19:48
  activated.
• 19:49
  Coming
• 19:49
  out.
• 19:50
  All
• 19:50
  right.
• 19:52
  Yeah.
• 19:55
  No,
• 19:55
  but
• 19:55
  I
• 19:55
  do
• 19:56
  want
• 19:56
  to
• 19:56
  emphasize
• 19:57
  just
• 19:57
  what
• 19:58
  you.
• 19:59
  We
• 19:59
  spoke
• 19:59
  in
• 20:00
  our
• 20:00
  previous
• 20:00
  conversation
• 20:01
  about
• 20:01
  the
• 20:01
  power
• 20:02
  of
• 20:02
  transmission
• 20:03
  and
• 20:03
  how
• 20:03
  it
• 20:03
  happens
• 20:04
  and
• 20:05
  a
• 20:06
  couple
• 20:06
  of
• 20:06
  conversations
• 20:06
  back,
• 20:07
  and
• 20:07
  you
• 20:07
  said
• 20:08
  that,
• 20:08
  you
• 20:08
  know,
• 20:08
  in
• 20:09
  real
• 20:09
  transmission,
• 20:10
  you
• 20:10
  speak
• 20:11
  and
• 20:11
  you
• 20:11
  embodying.
• 20:13
  Embody
• 20:13
  the
• 20:13
  experience
• 20:14
  realization
• 20:15
  state
• 20:15
  you're
• 20:16
  speaking
• 20:16
  about.
• 20:17
  And
• 20:17
  that
• 20:18
  it
• 20:18
  offers
• 20:18
  an
• 20:19
  opportunity
• 20:19
  for
• 20:19
  someone
• 20:20
  who's
• 20:20
  open
• 20:20
  to
• 20:20
  resonate
• 20:21
  and
• 20:21
  also
• 20:22
  to
• 20:22
  open
• 20:22
  to
• 20:22
  that.
• 20:22
  And
• 20:23
  I
• 20:24
  think
• 20:24
  you're
• 20:24
  just
• 20:25
  giving
• 20:25
  us
• 20:25
  nice
• 20:25
  respect.
• 20:26
  A
• 20:26
  significant
• 20:26
  number
• 20:27
  of
• 20:27
  our
• 20:27
  listeners
• 20:28
  that
• 20:29
  experience.
• 20:29
  It's
• 20:30
  just
• 20:30
  truly
• 20:31
  touching.
• 20:31
  I'm
• 20:32
  glitchling,
• 20:32
  tearing.
• 20:33
  I'm
• 20:34
  glad
• 20:34
  to
• 20:34
  hear
• 20:34
  it.
• 20:34
  And
• 20:35
  I
• 20:35
  hope
• 20:35
  many
• 20:35
  of
• 20:36
  our
• 20:36
  listeners
• 20:37
  are
• 20:37
  having
• 20:37
  similar.
• 20:38
  Yeah,
• 20:39
  may
• 20:39
  it
• 20:39
  be
• 20:39
  so.
• 20:41
  Indeed.
• 20:41
  I
• 20:41
  want
• 20:41
  people
• 20:42
  to
• 20:42
  feel
• 20:42
  touched,
• 20:43
  to
• 20:43
  recognize
• 20:44
  that
• 20:44
  their
• 20:45
  heart
• 20:45
  can't
• 20:46
  resonate
• 20:47
  with
• 20:47
  the
• 20:47
  truth
• 20:48
  of
• 20:48
  the
• 20:48
  truth
• 20:48
  with
• 20:48
  the
• 20:49
  inner
• 20:49
  beloved.
• 20:50
  Yeah.
• 20:51
  Yeah.
• 20:52
  Because
• 20:52
  the
• 20:52
  inner
• 20:52
  beloved
• 20:53
  of
• 20:53
  everybody
• 20:53
  is
• 20:54
  not
• 20:54
  just
• 20:54
  my
• 20:54
  inner
• 20:55
  beloved.
• 20:56
  Yeah.
• 20:56
  And
• 20:56
  there's.
• 20:57
  There's
• 20:57
  powerful
• 20:57
  healing
• 20:58
  on
• 20:59
  this
• 20:59
  path.
• 20:59
  I've
• 21:00
  found
• 21:00
  that
• 21:00
  in
• 21:00
  studying
• 21:00
  this
• 21:01
  book,
• 21:01
  it
• 21:01
  hasn't.
• 21:02
  Some
• 21:02
  of
• 21:02
  it
• 21:02
  was
• 21:02
  kind
• 21:02
  of
• 21:02
  hard
• 21:03
  and
• 21:03
  other
• 21:03
  parts
• 21:03
  have
• 21:04
  just
• 21:04
  been
• 21:05
  very,
• 21:05
  very
• 21:05
  good.
• 21:06
  No,
• 21:06
  it's
• 21:06
  hard,
• 21:07
  painful,
• 21:08
  and
• 21:08
  as
• 21:09
  you
• 21:09
  said,
• 21:09
  conflictful,
• 21:10
  frustrating
• 21:10
  and
• 21:10
  all.
• 21:11
  But
• 21:11
  a
• 21:11
  lot
• 21:12
  of
• 21:12
  it
• 21:12
  is
• 21:12
  also
• 21:13
  sweet
• 21:13
  sweetness
• 21:14
  and
• 21:15
  fullness
• 21:16
  and
• 21:16
  love
• 21:17
  and
• 21:17
  a
• 21:17
  sense
• 21:18
  of
• 21:18
  attract.
• 21:18
  Sometime
• 21:19
  there's
• 21:19
  a
• 21:20
  yearning.
• 21:20
  Sometimes
• 21:20
  there's
• 21:21
  an
• 21:21
  attraction,
• 21:21
  like
• 21:22
  a
• 21:22
  magnetic
• 21:22
  force
• 21:23
  pulling
• 21:24
  you
• 21:24
  in
• 21:25
  deeper
• 21:25
  and
• 21:25
  deeper,
• 21:26
  you
• 21:27
  know,
• 21:27
  as
• 21:27
  it
• 21:27
  melts
• 21:28
  you.
• 21:28
  Because
• 21:29
  love
• 21:29
  has
• 21:29
  a
• 21:30
  magnetic
• 21:30
  component
• 21:31
  to
• 21:31
  it.
• 21:32
  As,
• 21:32
  you
• 21:32
  know,
• 21:32
  if
• 21:33
  you
• 21:33
  love
• 21:33
  somebody,
• 21:34
  you
• 21:34
  want
• 21:34
  to
• 21:34
  be
• 21:34
  close,
• 21:35
  that
• 21:35
  is
• 21:36
  the
• 21:36
  fact
• 21:36
  that
• 21:37
  it's
• 21:37
  magnetism
• 21:38
  of
• 21:38
  love.
• 21:39
  You
• 21:39
  know,
• 21:39
  I
• 21:39
  remember
• 21:40
  talking
• 21:40
  with
• 21:41
  my
• 21:42
  Tibetan
• 21:42
  teachers
• 21:44
  and
• 21:44
  I
• 21:44
  was
• 21:45
  asking,
• 21:45
  why
• 21:45
  doesn't
• 21:46
  Buddhism
• 21:46
  talk
• 21:47
  about
• 21:47
  love?
• 21:48
  He
• 21:48
  said,
• 21:48
  well,
• 21:49
  the
• 21:49
  reason.
• 21:50
  Because
• 21:50
  love
• 21:50
  brings
• 21:51
  attachment.
• 21:52
  We
• 21:52
  don't
• 21:53
  talk
• 21:53
  about
• 21:53
  love.
• 21:55
  And
• 21:55
  I
• 21:55
  was
• 21:56
  not
• 21:56
  true.
• 21:57
  But
• 21:58
  the
• 21:58
  ways
• 21:58
  of
• 21:58
  love
• 21:59
  have
• 22:00
  found
• 22:00
  a
• 22:00
  way
• 22:00
  to
• 22:00
  deal
• 22:01
  with
• 22:01
  that.
• 22:01
  You
• 22:01
  know,
• 22:02
  the
• 22:02
  attachment
• 22:03
  is
• 22:03
  incinerated,
• 22:05
  you
• 22:05
  know,
• 22:05
  is
• 22:06
  melted
• 22:06
  away
• 22:07
  through
• 22:08
  love.
• 22:09
  The
• 22:09
  more
• 22:09
  the
• 22:09
  love
• 22:10
  is
• 22:10
  get
• 22:11
  bigger
• 22:12
  and
• 22:12
  deeper
• 22:13
  and
• 22:13
  more
• 22:14
  profound,
• 22:15
  which
• 22:15
  also,
• 22:16
  as
• 22:16
  I
• 22:16
  said,
• 22:17
  you
• 22:17
  cannot
• 22:18
  make
• 22:18
  it
• 22:18
  happen.
• 22:19
  Yeah.
• 22:19
  You
• 22:19
  can
• 22:19
  be
• 22:20
  open
• 22:20
  to
• 22:20
  it.
• 22:21
  You
• 22:21
  can
• 22:21
  be
• 22:22
  open
• 22:22
  to
• 22:22
  it.
• 22:22
  It
• 22:23
  feels
• 22:23
  like
• 22:24
  we're
• 22:24
  yearning,
• 22:25
  we're.
• 22:25
  But
• 22:26
  it
• 22:26
  is
• 22:26
  really
• 22:26
  the
• 22:27
  inner
• 22:27
  beloved
• 22:28
  work
• 22:29
  in
• 22:29
  our
• 22:29
  heart
• 22:30
  without
• 22:30
  us
• 22:31
  knowing
• 22:31
  it.
• 22:32
  It
• 22:32
  is
• 22:32
  drawing
• 22:32
  it
• 22:33
  nearer
• 22:33
  because
• 22:34
  it
• 22:34
  wants
• 22:35
  us
• 22:36
  to
• 22:36
  be
• 22:36
  one
• 22:36
  with
• 22:36
  it,
• 22:37
  because
• 22:38
  we
• 22:38
  are.
• 22:38
  It
• 22:39
  is.
• 22:39
  It's
• 22:40
  eyes
• 22:40
  and
• 22:40
  legs.
• 22:42
  Yeah.
• 22:42
  That's
• 22:43
  also
• 22:43
  very,
• 22:44
  very
• 22:44
  healing.
• 22:45
  Just
• 22:45
  to.
• 22:47
  And
• 22:47
  of
• 22:47
  course
• 22:48
  you've
• 22:48
  read
• 22:48
  that
• 22:48
  before,
• 22:49
  but
• 22:49
  just
• 22:49
  to
• 22:49
  hear
• 22:49
  you
• 22:50
  say
• 22:50
  It.
• 22:50
  And
• 22:50
  speaking
• 22:50
  it
• 22:51
  out
• 22:51
  of
• 22:51
  your
• 22:51
  direct
• 22:51
  experience
• 22:52
  that
• 22:53
  we
• 22:53
  are
• 22:54
  desired
• 22:55
  so
• 22:55
  profoundly
• 22:56
  by
• 22:56
  the
• 22:56
  beloved.
• 22:57
  Yeah,
• 22:59
  very
• 22:59
  touching.
• 23:01
  I
• 23:01
  mean,
• 23:01
  why
• 23:02
  were
• 23:02
  we
• 23:03
  here?
• 23:03
  The
• 23:03
  beloved
• 23:04
  didn't
• 23:04
  want
• 23:04
  this.
• 23:11
  I
• 23:11
  give
• 23:11
  up.
• 23:12
  I
• 23:12
  mean,
• 23:12
  are
• 23:12
  you
• 23:12
  just
• 23:13
  gonna
• 23:13
  listen
• 23:13
  to
• 23:14
  Darwin?
• 23:14
  It
• 23:15
  doesn't
• 23:15
  matter.
• 23:15
  Of
• 23:16
  evolution.
• 23:20
  Somehow
• 23:20
  we
• 23:21
  ended
• 23:21
  up
• 23:21
  here
• 23:22
  and
• 23:22
  I.
• 23:23
  This
• 23:23
  part
• 23:23
  of.
• 23:23
  Typically
• 23:24
  we
• 23:24
  could
• 23:24
  say
• 23:25
  life
• 23:25
  developed,
• 23:26
  but
• 23:27
  even
• 23:27
  then.
• 23:27
  So
• 23:28
  why
• 23:28
  is
• 23:28
  there
• 23:29
  life?
• 23:30
  Why
• 23:30
  is
• 23:30
  there
• 23:30
  evolution?
• 23:31
  What
• 23:31
  for?
• 23:33
  You
• 23:33
  know,
• 23:33
  then
• 23:34
  some,
• 23:34
  like
• 23:35
  Ken
• 23:35
  Wilbur
• 23:35
  would
• 23:36
  say,
• 23:36
  well,
• 23:36
  Eros
• 23:37
  Falls,
• 23:39
  heros
• 23:39
  underlies
• 23:40
  it
• 23:40
  all.
• 23:41
  Yeah,
• 23:43
  well,
• 23:43
  this
• 23:43
  has
• 23:43
  been
• 23:43
  very
• 23:44
  beautiful.
• 23:44
  And
• 23:45
  I'm.
• 23:46
  I'm
• 23:46
  torn.
• 23:46
  I'm
• 23:46
  wanting
• 23:47
  to
• 23:47
  make
• 23:47
  sure.
• 23:48
  Not
• 23:49
  wanting
• 23:49
  to
• 23:49
  leave
• 23:49
  this
• 23:50
  beautiful
• 23:51
  experience.
• 23:51
  And
• 23:52
  I
• 23:52
  am
• 23:52
  wanting
• 23:52
  also
• 23:53
  to
• 23:53
  ask
• 23:54
  a
• 23:54
  little
• 23:54
  more
• 23:54
  about
• 23:55
  the.
• 23:55
  What
• 23:55
  you
• 23:56
  call
• 23:56
  the
• 23:56
  mystical
• 23:57
  poverty
• 23:58
  which
• 23:58
  allows
• 23:59
  this.
• 24:00
  And
• 24:00
  you
• 24:00
  describe
• 24:01
  the
• 24:01
  mystical
• 24:01
  poverty
• 24:02
  as
• 24:02
  a
• 24:02
  relinquishment
• 24:03
  of
• 24:03
  all
• 24:03
  the
• 24:04
  loves
• 24:04
  which.
• 24:05
  All
• 24:05
  the
• 24:05
  competing
• 24:06
  loves.
• 24:07
  And
• 24:08
  could
• 24:08
  we.
• 24:09
  So
• 24:09
  two
• 24:09
  questions
• 24:09
  here.
• 24:10
  First
• 24:10
  one,
• 24:10
  could
• 24:10
  we
• 24:11
  substitute
• 24:11
  here
• 24:12
  effectively.
• 24:13
  Could
• 24:14
  we
• 24:14
  also
• 24:14
  talk
• 24:15
  about
• 24:15
  the
• 24:15
  relinquishment
• 24:16
  of
• 24:16
  attachments
• 24:16
  of
• 24:17
  any
• 24:17
  kind?
• 24:18
  Yeah,
• 24:18
  I
• 24:18
  mean,
• 24:19
  when
• 24:19
  we
• 24:19
  love,
• 24:20
  there's
• 24:20
  attachment
• 24:21
  to
• 24:21
  it.
• 24:21
  So
• 24:21
  the
• 24:21
  Buddha
• 24:22
  is
• 24:22
  correct
• 24:22
  about
• 24:23
  that.
• 24:24
  Love
• 24:24
  brings
• 24:24
  attachment,
• 24:26
  but
• 24:26
  the
• 24:26
  love
• 24:27
  is
• 24:27
  what
• 24:27
  melts
• 24:28
  the
• 24:28
  attachment
• 24:29
  by
• 24:30
  intensifying,
• 24:31
  by
• 24:31
  the
• 24:31
  love
• 24:31
  getting
• 24:32
  greater.
• 24:33
  It
• 24:33
  melts
• 24:33
  the
• 24:33
  attachment.
• 24:34
  That's
• 24:35
  one
• 24:35
  way.
• 24:36
  You
• 24:36
  could
• 24:36
  also
• 24:36
  work
• 24:37
  with
• 24:37
  attachment
• 24:38
  by
• 24:38
  understanding
• 24:39
  it
• 24:39
  and
• 24:39
  dissolving
• 24:40
  it.
• 24:41
  But
• 24:41
  love
• 24:41
  can
• 24:41
  also
• 24:42
  feel
• 24:42
  the
• 24:43
  attachment
• 24:43
  because
• 24:44
  the
• 24:44
  greater
• 24:45
  love
• 24:45
  for
• 24:45
  the
• 24:46
  beloved
• 24:46
  melts
• 24:47
  the
• 24:47
  attachment
• 24:48
  to
• 24:48
  other
• 24:48
  smaller
• 24:49
  beloved.
• 24:50
  Then
• 24:51
  it
• 24:51
  makes
• 24:51
  them
• 24:51
  less
• 24:51
  relevant.
• 24:52
  I
• 24:52
  mean,
• 24:52
  you
• 24:53
  know,
• 24:53
  your
• 24:53
  love
• 24:53
  of
• 24:54
  your
• 24:54
  ego
• 24:54
  becomes
• 24:55
  like,
• 24:56
  okay,
• 24:56
  so
• 24:56
  what,
• 24:57
  you
• 24:57
  know,
• 24:57
  it's
• 24:57
  about
• 24:58
  the
• 24:58
  love
• 24:58
  is
• 24:58
  much
• 24:58
  greater.
• 25:00
  It
• 25:00
  feels
• 25:00
  like
• 25:01
  they
• 25:01
  feel
• 25:02
  like
• 25:02
  an
• 25:03
  impediment,
• 25:03
  like
• 25:03
  a
• 25:04
  competition
• 25:05
  for
• 25:05
  the
• 25:06
  movement
• 25:07
  of
• 25:07
  the
• 25:07
  heart.
• 25:08
  I'm
• 25:08
  going
• 25:08
  there.
• 25:09
  I'm
• 25:09
  going
• 25:09
  there
• 25:09
  strongly.
• 25:11
  So
• 25:11
  some
• 25:11
  other
• 25:12
  love
• 25:12
  here
• 25:12
  is
• 25:12
  like
• 25:13
  distraction,
• 25:14
  like
• 25:15
  is
• 25:16
  weakening
• 25:16
  the
• 25:17
  power
• 25:17
  of
• 25:17
  the
• 25:18
  love
• 25:18
  that
• 25:18
  is
• 25:18
  coming
• 25:19
  through
• 25:20
  that
• 25:20
  pouring
• 25:21
  toward
• 25:22
  direction
• 25:23
  of
• 25:23
  its
• 25:23
  own
• 25:23
  that
• 25:23
  we
• 25:24
  don't
• 25:24
  know,
• 25:24
  we
• 25:25
  don't
• 25:25
  have
• 25:25
  a
• 25:25
  compass
• 25:26
  for.
• 25:28
  In
• 25:28
  your
• 25:28
  description
• 25:29
  of
• 25:30
  mystical
• 25:31
  poverty,
• 25:32
  you
• 25:32
  emphasize
• 25:34
  the
• 25:35
  relinquishment
• 25:36
  of
• 25:36
  all
• 25:36
  other
• 25:36
  loves
• 25:37
  just
• 25:37
  leaving
• 25:38
  this
• 25:38
  open
• 25:38
  space.
• 25:40
  If
• 25:40
  I
• 25:40
  understand
• 25:41
  some
• 25:41
  of
• 25:41
  the
• 25:41
  Christian
• 25:42
  teachings
• 25:42
  correctly,
• 25:43
  the
• 25:43
  spiritual
• 25:44
  poverty
• 25:45
  also
• 25:45
  implies
• 25:46
  a
• 25:46
  recognition
• 25:46
  of
• 25:47
  our
• 25:47
  utter
• 25:47
  dependence
• 25:49
  on
• 25:49
  the
• 25:49
  divine,
• 25:50
  that
• 25:50
  we
• 25:50
  can't
• 25:51
  do
• 25:51
  anything
• 25:52
  independent
• 25:52
  of
• 25:52
  the
• 25:53
  divine.
• 25:53
  Is
• 25:54
  that
• 25:54
  also
• 25:54
  implied
• 25:55
  in
• 25:55
  your
• 25:56
  description
• 25:56
  of
• 25:56
  mystical
• 25:57
  poverty?
• 25:57
  You
• 25:58
  see,
• 25:58
  there
• 25:58
  is
• 25:59
  mystical
• 25:59
  poverty
• 26:00
  and
• 26:00
  there
• 26:00
  is
• 26:01
  mystical
• 26:01
  poverty
• 26:02
  of
• 26:02
  the
• 26:02
  heart.
• 26:03
  Not
• 26:03
  exactly
• 26:04
  the
• 26:04
  same
• 26:04
  thing.
• 26:06
  Mystical
• 26:06
  poverty,
• 26:07
  at
• 26:07
  the
• 26:07
  same
• 26:07
  time
• 26:08
  the
• 26:08
  cross
• 26:08
  talks
• 26:09
  about
• 26:09
  is
• 26:10
  the
• 26:11
  poverty
• 26:11
  of
• 26:11
  the
• 26:12
  soul.
• 26:13
  The
• 26:13
  soul
• 26:13
  does
• 26:14
  not
• 26:14
  own
• 26:14
  anything
• 26:15
  of
• 26:15
  its
• 26:15
  own.
• 26:15
  It's
• 26:16
  all
• 26:16
  given
• 26:16
  to
• 26:16
  it.
• 26:17
  And
• 26:17
  when
• 26:18
  it
• 26:18
  recognizes
• 26:19
  all
• 26:20
  its
• 26:20
  possession
• 26:21
  in
• 26:21
  the
• 26:21
  world,
• 26:22
  all
• 26:22
  its
• 26:22
  inner
• 26:22
  capacities,
• 26:23
  all
• 26:23
  in
• 26:24
  experience,
• 26:24
  all
• 26:25
  are
• 26:25
  not
• 26:26
  its
• 26:26
  own
• 26:26
  given
• 26:27
  to
• 26:27
  it.
• 26:28
  That's
• 26:28
  called
• 26:28
  mystical
• 26:29
  poverty.
• 26:30
  But
• 26:30
  here
• 26:31
  is
• 26:31
  the
• 26:32
  heart
• 26:32
  itself,
• 26:33
  because
• 26:33
  it's
• 26:33
  not
• 26:34
  the
• 26:34
  totality
• 26:35
  of
• 26:35
  the
• 26:35
  soul.
• 26:35
  But
• 26:35
  the
• 26:36
  heart
• 26:36
  doesn't
• 26:36
  have
• 26:36
  anything
• 26:37
  of
• 26:37
  its
• 26:37
  own,
• 26:38
  does
• 26:38
  it
• 26:38
  really?
• 26:39
  So
• 26:39
  it's
• 26:40
  a
• 26:40
  mystical
• 26:40
  poverty
• 26:41
  of
• 26:41
  the
• 26:41
  heart,
• 26:41
  which
• 26:42
  means
• 26:42
  it's
• 26:43
  empties
• 26:43
  of
• 26:43
  its
• 26:44
  attachment,
• 26:44
  of
• 26:45
  its
• 26:45
  preferences,
• 26:47
  but
• 26:47
  mostly
• 26:48
  of
• 26:48
  all
• 26:49
  other
• 26:50
  things
• 26:50
  that
• 26:50
  it
• 26:50
  loves.
• 26:51
  Can
• 26:51
  be
• 26:51
  a
• 26:52
  big
• 26:52
  thing,
• 26:52
  like
• 26:53
  a
• 26:54
  wife
• 26:54
  or
• 26:54
  a
• 26:54
  husband
• 26:55
  or
• 26:56
  friend
• 26:56
  or
• 26:56
  a
• 26:57
  teacher
• 26:57
  or.
• 26:58
  Or
• 26:58
  it
• 26:59
  could
• 26:59
  be
• 26:59
  a
• 26:59
  little
• 26:59
  thing
• 27:00
  like
• 27:00
  ice
• 27:00
  cream
• 27:01
  or,
• 27:02
  you
• 27:02
  know,
• 27:03
  like
• 27:03
  some
• 27:04
  kind
• 27:04
  of
• 27:05
  cake
• 27:05
  or
• 27:06
  like
• 27:06
  some
• 27:06
  kind
• 27:07
  of
• 27:07
  sport
• 27:07
  or
• 27:08
  like
• 27:08
  some
• 27:08
  kind
• 27:08
  of
• 27:09
  movie
• 27:09
  star
• 27:10
  or
• 27:10
  all
• 27:10
  of
• 27:11
  these
• 27:11
  things
• 27:11
  can
• 27:11
  become
• 27:12
  competition
• 27:13
  to
• 27:13
  them.
• 27:14
  And
• 27:14
  the
• 27:15
  inner
• 27:15
  poverty
• 27:15
  is
• 27:16
  all
• 27:17
  of
• 27:17
  those
• 27:17
  dissolve.
• 27:18
  So
• 27:19
  the
• 27:19
  heart
• 27:19
  experiences
• 27:20
  own
• 27:21
  poverty
• 27:22
  and
• 27:22
  it
• 27:23
  empties
• 27:23
  all
• 27:23
  these
• 27:24
  things.
• 27:25
  Yeah,
• 27:25
  I
• 27:26
  think
• 27:26
  I'd
• 27:26
  be
• 27:26
  remiss
• 27:27
  if
• 27:27
  I
• 27:27
  didn't
• 27:27
  mention
• 27:28
  St.
• 27:28
  Francis
• 27:28
  of
• 27:28
  Assisi.
• 27:29
  To
• 27:30
  me,
• 27:30
  he's
• 27:30
  very
• 27:30
  much
• 27:31
  the
• 27:31
  embodiment
• 27:32
  of
• 27:32
  that.
• 27:33
  He
• 27:33
  took
• 27:33
  the
• 27:33
  poverty
• 27:34
  literally.
• 27:34
  Of
• 27:34
  course,
• 27:34
  he
• 27:35
  wanted
• 27:35
  to
• 27:35
  be
• 27:35
  completely
• 27:36
  poor
• 27:36
  physically,
• 27:37
  but
• 27:37
  he
• 27:37
  was
• 27:37
  actually
• 27:37
  going
• 27:38
  for
• 27:38
  the
• 27:38
  inner
• 27:39
  poverty.
• 27:40
  And
• 27:40
  he
• 27:40
  went
• 27:41
  through
• 27:41
  a
• 27:42
  really
• 27:42
  hard
• 27:42
  time
• 27:43
  getting
• 27:43
  there
• 27:43
  in
• 27:43
  the
• 27:44
  dark
• 27:44
  cave,
• 27:44
  left
• 27:45
  everything.
• 27:45
  And
• 27:46
  finally
• 27:46
  when
• 27:46
  it
• 27:46
  came
• 27:46
  out,
• 27:47
  this
• 27:47
  recognition
• 27:48
  of
• 27:48
  the
• 27:48
  God,
• 27:48
  the
• 27:49
  inner
• 27:49
  beloved,
• 27:49
  became
• 27:50
  so
• 27:50
  great
• 27:51
  that
• 27:51
  it
• 27:51
  spilled
• 27:51
  out
• 27:52
  to
• 27:52
  all
• 27:53
  creatures
• 27:53
  and
• 27:54
  the
• 27:54
  world
• 27:54
  and
• 27:55
  people
• 27:55
  recognized
• 27:56
  it
• 27:56
  and
• 27:56
  it
• 27:56
  was
• 27:57
  very
• 27:57
  healing.
• 27:58
  He's
• 27:58
  a
• 27:58
  great
• 27:58
  example
• 27:59
  of
• 27:59
  that.
• 27:59
  Yes,
• 28:01
  yes.
• 28:02
  He
• 28:02
  loved
• 28:02
  all
• 28:03
  life,
• 28:03
  then
• 28:03
  everything.
• 28:05
  Yeah.
• 28:05
  And
• 28:05
  that's
• 28:06
  what
• 28:06
  happens
• 28:06
  when
• 28:06
  the
• 28:07
  inner
• 28:07
  beloved
• 28:08
  takes
• 28:08
  its
• 28:08
  place
• 28:09
  at
• 28:09
  the
• 28:09
  center
• 28:09
  of
• 28:10
  the
• 28:10
  heart.
• 28:10
  I
• 28:11
  mean,
• 28:11
  everything
• 28:12
  becomes.
• 28:13
  We
• 28:13
  can't
• 28:14
  love
• 28:14
  one
• 28:14
  thing
• 28:15
  in
• 28:15
  life,
• 28:15
  and
• 28:15
  there
• 28:15
  is
• 28:15
  love
• 28:16
  for
• 28:16
  everything.
• 28:16
  It's
• 28:17
  just
• 28:17
  love.
• 28:18
  And
• 28:18
  there
• 28:18
  is
• 28:18
  awareness
• 28:19
  of
• 28:19
  everything,
• 28:20
  just
• 28:20
  like
• 28:20
  in
• 28:20
  the
• 28:21
  path
• 28:21
  of
• 28:21
  the
• 28:21
  mind.
• 28:22
  But
• 28:22
  with
• 28:22
  the
• 28:22
  awareness,
• 28:23
  there's
• 28:23
  love,
• 28:24
  there's
• 28:24
  loving.
• 28:24
  What
• 28:25
  we're
• 28:25
  aware
• 28:25
  of,
• 28:26
  and
• 28:27
  loving
• 28:28
  is
• 28:28
  not
• 28:28
  by
• 28:28
  an
• 28:29
  individual,
• 28:29
  is
• 28:30
  by
• 28:30
  the
• 28:30
  beloved
• 28:31
  itself.
• 28:32
  The
• 28:32
  vastness
• 28:34
  of
• 28:34
  the
• 28:34
  beloved.
• 28:35
  The
• 28:35
  vastness
• 28:36
  of
• 28:36
  the
• 28:36
  beloved,
• 28:37
  the
• 28:37
  depth,
• 28:37
  the
• 28:37
  inner
• 28:38
  infinite
• 28:38
  depth
• 28:39
  and
• 28:39
  vastness
• 28:40
  and
• 28:41
  mystery.
• 28:42
  Also
• 28:43
  need
• 28:43
  to
• 28:43
  remember,
• 28:43
  the
• 28:44
  mystery
• 28:44
  of
• 28:44
  the
• 28:45
  beloved
• 28:46
  is
• 28:47
  the
• 28:47
  source
• 28:47
  of
• 28:48
  love.
• 28:48
  It
• 28:48
  is
• 28:49
  what
• 28:50
  loves
• 28:50
  everything.
• 28:51
  And
• 28:51
  so
• 28:51
  the
• 28:52
  individual
• 28:52
  soul
• 28:53
  would
• 28:53
  become
• 28:53
  a
• 28:53
  channel
• 28:54
  of
• 28:54
  that
• 28:54
  love,
• 28:55
  that
• 28:55
  greater.
• 28:55
  Love,
• 28:56
  because
• 28:56
  there's
• 28:56
  no
• 28:57
  experience
• 28:57
  with
• 28:57
  that
• 28:58
  individual
• 28:58
  soul.
• 28:59
  You
• 28:59
  don't
• 28:59
  see
• 28:59
  or
• 29:00
  perceive
• 29:00
  anything.
• 29:02
  You
• 29:02
  know,
• 29:02
  the
• 29:03
  inner
• 29:03
  beloved,
• 29:04
  or
• 29:04
  the
• 29:04
  inner
• 29:04
  truth,
• 29:05
  has
• 29:06
  no
• 29:06
  way
• 29:06
  of
• 29:07
  seeing,
• 29:08
  hearing,
• 29:09
  perceiving,
• 29:10
  without
• 29:10
  a
• 29:10
  perceiver.
• 29:12
  So
• 29:12
  the
• 29:13
  soul
• 29:13
  is
• 29:13
  like
• 29:14
  a
• 29:14
  lens,
• 29:14
  perceptual,
• 29:16
  an
• 29:16
  experiential
• 29:17
  lens,
• 29:17
  or
• 29:18
  the
• 29:18
  inner
• 29:19
  truth.
• 29:20
  And
• 29:20
  that's
• 29:20
  why
• 29:21
  I
• 29:21
  don't
• 29:21
  like
• 29:21
  people
• 29:22
  who
• 29:22
  dismiss
• 29:23
  the
• 29:23
  soul.
• 29:24
  Because
• 29:25
  without
• 29:25
  the
• 29:25
  soul,
• 29:26
  you
• 29:26
  know,
• 29:27
  the
• 29:27
  inner
• 29:27
  truth
• 29:28
  has
• 29:28
  no
• 29:28
  way
• 29:28
  to
• 29:29
  know
• 29:29
  itself.
• 29:30
  Yeah.
• 29:30
  You
• 29:30
  emphasize
• 29:31
  so
• 29:31
  often
• 29:32
  that
• 29:32
  we
• 29:32
  are
• 29:32
  the
• 29:33
  organs
• 29:34
  of
• 29:34
  perception
• 29:35
  and
• 29:35
  action.
• 29:36
  For
• 29:36
  the.
• 29:37
  The
• 29:37
  beloved
• 29:38
  or
• 29:38
  absolute
• 29:39
  have
• 29:40
  a
• 29:40
  function.
• 29:41
  Yeah.
• 29:41
  As
• 29:42
  individuals,
• 29:42
  we
• 29:43
  are
• 29:43
  the
• 29:43
  organs.
• 29:44
  But
• 29:44
  our
• 29:45
  true
• 29:45
  self,
• 29:45
  our
• 29:46
  true
• 29:46
  beingness
• 29:47
  is
• 29:47
  the
• 29:47
  beloved
• 29:48
  itself,
• 29:49
  is
• 29:49
  the
• 29:50
  fundamental
• 29:51
  Tasanda
• 29:52
  truth.
• 29:52
  That
• 29:52
  is
• 29:52
  what
• 29:53
  we
• 29:53
  are.
• 29:54
  And
• 29:54
  we
• 29:54
  see
• 29:55
  through
• 29:55
  the
• 29:55
  individual
• 29:56
  because
• 29:56
  we
• 29:57
  perceive
• 29:57
  only
• 29:57
  locally.
• 29:58
  You
• 29:58
  notice,
• 30:00
  you
• 30:00
  don't.
• 30:00
  I
• 30:00
  mean,
• 30:01
  you're
• 30:01
  not
• 30:01
  perceiving
• 30:02
  Calcutta,
• 30:03
  you're
• 30:03
  perceiving.
• 30:03
  You're
• 30:04
  in
• 30:04
  your
• 30:04
  office,
• 30:05
  regardless
• 30:05
  how
• 30:05
  realized
• 30:06
  you
• 30:06
  are.
• 30:08
  Yes.
• 30:09
  Let's
• 30:10
  see.
• 30:10
  It
• 30:10
  feels
• 30:11
  like
• 30:11
  that
• 30:12
  we've
• 30:12
  come
• 30:13
  to
• 30:13
  perhaps
• 30:13
  a
• 30:14
  stopping
• 30:14
  place
• 30:14
  for
• 30:14
  today
• 30:15
  because
• 30:15
  there's
• 30:16
  a
• 30:16
  kind
• 30:16
  of
• 30:16
  jump
• 30:17
  to
• 30:17
  the
• 30:17
  next
• 30:18
  topic
• 30:18
  here.
• 30:19
  But
• 30:19
  is
• 30:19
  there
• 30:19
  anything
• 30:20
  you'd
• 30:20
  like
• 30:20
  to
• 30:21
  add
• 30:21
  amid.
• 30:22
  Well,
• 30:22
  I
• 30:22
  mean,
• 30:23
  just
• 30:23
  a
• 30:23
  reminder
• 30:24
  for
• 30:24
  all
• 30:25
  who
• 30:25
  are
• 30:25
  listening.
• 30:26
  And
• 30:26
  when
• 30:27
  you
• 30:27
  feel
• 30:27
  love,
• 30:28
  that's
• 30:28
  the
• 30:28
  beginning.
• 30:29
  That
• 30:29
  can
• 30:29
  be
• 30:29
  the
• 30:30
  beginning
• 30:30
  of
• 30:30
  the
• 30:30
  path
• 30:31
  of
• 30:31
  love,
• 30:32
  any
• 30:32
  love.
• 30:32
  So
• 30:33
  we
• 30:33
  can
• 30:33
  take
• 30:34
  the
• 30:34
  love
• 30:34
  itself
• 30:35
  instead
• 30:35
  of
• 30:36
  the
• 30:36
  object
• 30:36
  of
• 30:36
  love.
• 30:39
  Let
• 30:40
  it
• 30:40
  get
• 30:40
  bigger,
• 30:41
  let
• 30:41
  it
• 30:42
  get
• 30:42
  deeper,
• 30:43
  see
• 30:43
  where
• 30:43
  it
• 30:44
  takes
• 30:44
  us.
• 30:44
  Because
• 30:44
  love
• 30:45
  is
• 30:45
  a
• 30:45
  powerful,
• 30:46
  most
• 30:47
  powerful
• 30:47
  force
• 30:48
  actually
• 30:49
  in
• 30:49
  the
• 30:49
  spiritual
• 30:50
  universe,
• 30:51
  which
• 30:51
  being
• 30:52
  the
• 30:52
  most
• 30:52
  powerful
• 30:53
  force
• 30:53
  in
• 30:53
  the
• 30:53
  universe.
• 30:55
  Beautiful.
• 30:57
  Well,
• 30:58
  well,
• 30:58
  Hameed,
• 30:59
  as
• 30:59
  usual,
• 31:00
  thank
• 31:00
  you
• 31:00
  so
• 31:00
  very
• 31:00
  much.
• 31:01
  I
• 31:02
  will
• 31:02
  be
• 31:02
  listening.
• 31:03
  I
• 31:03
  listen
• 31:04
  to
• 31:04
  all
• 31:04
  our.
• 31:05
  All
• 31:05
  your
• 31:05
  dialogues
• 31:06
  once
• 31:06
  they
• 31:07
  come
• 31:07
  out.
• 31:07
  But
• 31:07
  I
• 31:07
  will
• 31:07
  be
• 31:08
  listening
• 31:08
  to
• 31:08
  this
• 31:08
  one
• 31:09
  very
• 31:10
  eagerly
• 31:10
  because
• 31:11
  I
• 31:11
  really
• 31:11
  received.
• 31:12
  Felt
• 31:12
  like
• 31:12
  I
• 31:12
  received
• 31:13
  a
• 31:13
  transmission
• 31:14
  today.
• 31:14
  And
• 31:14
  I
• 31:15
  mean,
• 31:15
  you
• 31:15
  must
• 31:15
  be
• 31:15
  feeling
• 31:16
  love,
• 31:16
  that
• 31:16
  sweetness.
• 31:19
  The
• 31:19
  heart
• 31:19
  must
• 31:19
  be
• 31:20
  more
• 31:20
  open.
• 31:21
  Yeah.
• 31:21
  Yes.
• 31:22
  I
• 31:22
  have
• 31:22
  hope.
• 31:24
  Yeah.
• 31:25
  We
• 31:25
  don't
• 31:25
  just
• 31:26
  hope.
• 31:26
  You
• 31:26
  do.
• 31:26
  No.
• 31:30
  John.
• 31:30
  How
• 31:30
  about
• 31:30
  you,
• 31:31
  John?
• 31:31
  I'm
• 31:32
  doing.
• 31:32
  I'm.
• 31:32
  I'm
• 31:33
  just
• 31:33
  feeling
• 31:34
  extremely
• 31:34
  grateful.
• 31:35
  I
• 31:35
  think
• 31:35
  I'm
• 31:36
  much
• 31:36
  more
• 31:36
  of
• 31:36
  a
• 31:36
  bhakti
• 31:37
  than
• 31:37
  I
• 31:37
  am,
• 31:38
  you
• 31:38
  know,
• 31:38
  a
• 31:38
  mind.
• 31:39
  Although
• 31:39
  I
• 31:39
  worked
• 31:40
  on
• 31:40
  it
• 31:40
  for
• 31:40
  years.
• 31:40
  Yeah.
• 31:41
  This
• 31:41
  makes.
• 31:44
  It
• 31:44
  just
• 31:44
  validates
• 31:45
  a
• 31:45
  lot
• 31:45
  of
• 31:45
  my
• 31:45
  life,
• 31:45
  a
• 31:46
  lot
• 31:46
  of
• 31:46
  the
• 31:46
  suffering,
• 31:46
  a
• 31:46
  lot
• 31:46
  of
• 31:47
  experiences,
• 31:47
  a
• 31:48
  lot
• 31:48
  of
• 31:48
  my
• 31:48
  current
• 31:48
  struggles.
• 31:49
  And
• 31:51
  I
• 31:51
  find
• 31:51
  myself
• 31:52
  so,
• 31:52
  so
• 31:52
  grateful
• 31:53
  that
• 31:53
  we've
• 31:53
  had
• 31:53
  this
• 31:53
  opportunity
• 31:54
  to
• 31:54
  be
• 31:54
  with
• 31:54
  you
• 31:54
  here
• 31:55
  and
• 31:55
  how
• 31:55
  kind
• 31:56
  you've
• 31:56
  been
• 31:56
  sharing
• 31:57
  it
• 31:57
  in
• 31:57
  our
• 31:58
  audience
• 31:58
  and
• 31:58
  our
• 31:58
  growing
• 31:59
  community.
• 31:59
  And
• 31:59
  in
• 32:00
  gratitude
• 32:00
  is
• 32:01
  a
• 32:01
  kind
• 32:01
  of
• 32:01
  love
• 32:01
  that
• 32:02
  because
• 32:03
  it
• 32:03
  is
• 32:03
  one
• 32:03
  of
• 32:03
  the
• 32:04
  expression
• 32:04
  of
• 32:04
  the
• 32:04
  heart.
• 32:05
  You
• 32:05
  don't
• 32:05
  feel
• 32:06
  gratitude
• 32:06
  in
• 32:06
  your
• 32:07
  head,
• 32:08
  you
• 32:08
  feel
• 32:08
  it
• 32:08
  in.
• 32:08
  That's
• 32:09
  true.
• 32:09
  I
• 32:09
  don't.
• 32:10
  Yeah.
• 32:11
  Feel
• 32:11
  gratitude.
• 32:13
  It's
• 32:13
  a
• 32:13
  sweet
• 32:13
  nectar.
• 32:15
  It
• 32:15
  is.
• 32:15
  Indeed
• 32:15
  it
• 32:15
  is.
• 32:16
  Yeah,
• 32:16
  it
• 32:16
  is.
• 32:17
  I
• 32:17
  try
• 32:17
  to
• 32:18
  make
• 32:18
  the
• 32:18
  first
• 32:18
  thought
• 32:18
  of
• 32:19
  the
• 32:19
  day
• 32:19
  as
• 32:19
  I'm
• 32:19
  just
• 32:20
  Waking
• 32:20
  up.
• 32:21
  Thank
• 32:21
  you
• 32:22
  for.
• 32:23
  And
• 32:24
  then
• 32:25
  it's
• 32:25
  a
• 32:25
  long
• 32:25
  list.
• 32:27
  I
• 32:28
  think
• 32:28
  you
• 32:28
  know
• 32:28
  the
• 32:28
  idea
• 32:29
  that
• 32:29
  because
• 32:29
  this
• 32:30
  new
• 32:30
  book
• 32:31
  just
• 32:32
  coming
• 32:32
  out
• 32:33
  and
• 32:33
  we
• 32:34
  want
• 32:34
  people
• 32:35
  to
• 32:35
  know
• 32:35
  not
• 32:35
  only
• 32:36
  about
• 32:36
  the
• 32:36
  book,
• 32:36
  what's
• 32:37
  in
• 32:37
  it.
• 32:37
  Yeah,
• 32:38
  the
• 32:38
  book.
• 32:38
  I
• 32:38
  don't
• 32:39
  care
• 32:39
  about
• 32:39
  the
• 32:39
  book.
• 32:40
  I
• 32:40
  care
• 32:40
  what
• 32:41
  the
• 32:41
  book
• 32:42
  embodies,
• 32:43
  what
• 32:43
  has
• 32:43
  in
• 32:44
  it
• 32:44
  the
• 32:44
  message
• 32:45
  it
• 32:45
  wants
• 32:46
  to
• 32:46
  give.
• 32:47
  That's
• 32:47
  what
• 32:47
  matters.
• 32:48
  And
• 32:49
  informing
• 32:49
  people
• 32:50
  of
• 32:50
  the
• 32:50
  message.
• 32:51
  Of
• 32:51
  course,
• 32:51
  they
• 32:51
  could
• 32:51
  read
• 32:52
  the
• 32:52
  book
• 32:52
  and
• 32:52
  get
• 32:53
  more
• 32:53
  details,
• 32:54
  but
• 32:54
  we
• 32:55
  give.
• 32:55
  Telling
• 32:55
  them
• 32:56
  what.
• 32:56
  What
• 32:56
  is
• 32:56
  about.
• 32:58
  Yeah.
• 32:59
  And
• 32:59
  also
• 33:00
  just
• 33:00
  the
• 33:00
  transmission
• 33:01
  you're
• 33:01
  offering.
• 33:01
  And
• 33:02
  again,
• 33:02
  to
• 33:02
  emphasize
• 33:03
  how
• 33:03
  powerful
• 33:04
  the
• 33:04
  exercises
• 33:05
  in
• 33:05
  this
• 33:06
  book
• 33:06
  are,
• 33:07
  certainly
• 33:07
  have
• 33:07
  had
• 33:07
  their
• 33:08
  impact
• 33:08
  on
• 33:08
  me.
• 33:09
  So
• 33:09
  thank
• 33:10
  you
• 33:10
  very
• 33:10
  much,
• 33:10
  Hameed.
• 33:11
  Really
• 33:11
  deeply
• 33:12
  grateful.
• 33:13
  Thank
• 33:13
  you
• 33:13
  also
• 33:14
  to
• 33:14
  Vanessa
• 33:15
  Santos,
• 33:15
  who
• 33:16
  is
• 33:16
  a
• 33:16
  production
• 33:17
  editor,
• 33:18
  and
• 33:18
  to
• 33:19
  our
• 33:19
  manager,
• 33:19
  Heidi
• 33:20
  Mitchell.
• 33:20
  And
• 33:21
  if
• 33:21
  you
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  have
• 33:21
  been
• 33:22
  enjoying
• 33:22
  this
• 33:22
  series
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  and
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  other
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  series
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  with
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  Hameed,
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  then
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  please
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  subscribe.
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  Perhaps
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  you'd
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  like
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  to
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  leave
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  a
• 33:28
  review.
• 33:28
  It
• 33:29
  helps
• 33:29
  us
• 33:29
  get
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  this.
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  These
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  ideas
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  out
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  to
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  more
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  people.
• 33:32
  So
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  thank
• 33:33
  you,
• 33:33
  Hameed.
• 33:33
  Thank
• 33:34
  you
• 33:34
  so
• 33:34
  much.
• 33:34
  And
• 33:35
  hopefully
• 33:35
  we
• 33:35
  get
• 33:36
  to
• 33:36
  continue.
• 33:37
  See
• 33:37
  you
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  in
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  a
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  few
• 33:37
  weeks.
• 33:38
  Thanks
• 33:38
  so
• 33:38
  much,
• 33:39
  Hameed.
• 33:39
  That
• 33:39
  was.
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  Thank
• 33:40
  you,
• 33:40
  Hameed.
• 33:40
  Yeah.
• 33:41
  Very
• 33:41
  touching.
• 33:42
  Thank
• 33:43
  you
• 33:43
  very
• 33:43
  much
• 33:43
  for
• 33:44
  being
• 33:44
  a
• 33:44
  part
• 33:44
  of
• 33:45
  this
• 33:45
  conversation.
• 33:45
  We
• 33:46
  hope
• 33:46
  that
• 33:46
  you
• 33:46
  were
• 33:47
  moved
• 33:47
  as
• 33:47
  we
• 33:48
  are
• 33:48
  moved,
• 33:48
  being
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  part
• 33:49
  of
• 33:49
  it
• 33:49
  ourselves.
• 33:50
  We'd
• 33:50
  also
• 33:50
  like
• 33:51
  to
• 33:51
  say
• 33:51
  that
• 33:51
  this
• 33:51
  is
• 33:52
  being
• 33:52
  funded
• 33:52
  by
• 33:53
  Roger
• 33:53
  and
• 33:53
  myself.
• 33:54
  It
• 33:54
  comes
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  out
• 33:54
  of
• 33:54
  our
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  pockets.
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  So
• 33:55
  if
• 33:55
  you
• 33:55
  would
• 33:55
  like
• 33:56
  to
• 33:56
  help
• 33:56
  us
• 33:56
  to.
• 33:57
  Mainly
• 33:57
  to
• 33:58
  get
• 33:58
  this
• 33:58
  podcast
• 33:58
  out
• 33:59
  to
• 33:59
  more
• 33:59
  people
• 33:59
  because
• 34:00
  the
• 34:00
  bigger
• 34:00
  audience
• 34:01
  have.
• 34:01
  Which
• 34:01
  is
• 34:01
  steadily
• 34:01
  growing,
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  but
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  the
• 34:02
  more
• 34:02
  people
• 34:03
  we
• 34:03
  can
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  reach
• 34:03
  and
• 34:03
  the
• 34:03
  more
• 34:04
  marketing
• 34:04
  we
• 34:04
  can
• 34:04
  do,
• 34:05
  the
• 34:05
  more
• 34:05
  positive
• 34:06
  effect
• 34:06
  we
• 34:06
  can
• 34:07
  have
• 34:07
  on
• 34:07
  the
• 34:07
  world.
• 34:07
  So
• 34:08
  we've
• 34:08
  done
• 34:08
  that
• 34:08
  a
• 34:08
  couple
• 34:08
  of
• 34:09
  ways,
• 34:09
  but
• 34:09
  we'd
• 34:09
  like
• 34:09
  you
• 34:09
  to
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  buy
• 34:10
  us
• 34:10
  a
• 34:10
  cup
• 34:10
  of
• 34:11
  coffee.
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  Very
• 34:11
  simple.
• 34:12
  And
• 34:12
  I
• 34:12
  do
• 34:12
  that
• 34:12
  with
• 34:12
  podcasts
• 34:13
  that
• 34:14
  I
• 34:14
  support
• 34:15
  and
• 34:15
  I
• 34:15
  find
• 34:15
  it's
• 34:16
  very
• 34:16
  satisfying.
• 34:17
  So
• 34:17
  thank
• 34:17
  you
• 34:17
  for
• 34:17
  your
• 34:18
  help.
• 34:18
  Thank
• 34:18
  you
• 34:18
  for
• 34:19
  your
• 34:19
  presence
• 34:19
  and
• 34:19
  thank
• 34:20
  you
• 34:20
  for
• 34:20
  all
• 34:20
  you
• 34:20
  are
• 34:21
  and
• 34:21
  all
• 34:21
  you
• 34:21
  do.