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- 0:01Hi, I'm Danny Tan and welcome to the You're Overqualified
- 0:04podcast, the podcast that's here to remind you that you are
- 0:07overqualified, especially what it is that you're doing.
- 0:09So just know if you need that friendly reminder and that
- 0:12nudge, that is why we are here. I am Danny Tan, I'm a leadership
- 0:15coach and the founder of She Belongs Here, an organization
- 0:17that helps women, especially 1st and 2nd Gen. women understand
- 0:21that they definitely belong. And we do, right?
- 0:23We do. We belong in creating that
- 0:25space. And some background on me is
- 0:26that I've pivoted crews five times.
- 0:28I worked in PR sales, merchandising, e-commerce, all
- 0:30to move into entrepreneurship. I'm a former VP of a building
- 0:33art organization that now focuses solely on helping women
- 0:36with their careers and businesses.
- 0:38And the reason why is because I found so many different ways to
- 0:41Sunday of how I didn't feel like I belonged, whether it was being
- 0:44the only woman in the room, being of mixed identity and
- 0:46background. I'm Asian, Latina, I'm Puerto
- 0:48Rican, Filipino, Chinese, whether is being a first Gen.
- 0:51first graduate College in my immediate family, so many
- 0:53different kinds of first or paving the way and there's so
- 0:56many of us, right. But The thing is like bringing
- 0:58that unity together and coming together to figure that out.
- 1:01And so in today's episode, I'm going to focus on is how to
- 1:05utilize and take your corporate skills and experience and turn
- 1:08them and translate them to entrepreneurship and building a
- 1:11business. Because here's the thing, we are
- 1:14so hard working. We're so dedicated, we're so
- 1:17ambitious and driven. And we over index for
- 1:19organizations day in, day out. It does not matter if you work
- 1:21for a nonprofit for profit in the tech sector, in the fashion
- 1:25sector. I've seen it all, like hundreds,
- 1:28hundreds, hundreds of clients. I've worked with the group
- 1:30setting in a private setting, one on ones with organizations.
- 1:33And time and time again, we are constantly over delivering and
- 1:35over exerting ourselves for somebody else's dream.
- 1:39And that's OK. If that's what you want to do,
- 1:41that's totally fine. I will never knock and shame
- 1:43what somebody is happy with what they're what they want to move
- 1:46forward with. Like that's totally fine.
- 1:47But the thing that I want to reiterate is this, if you were
- 1:49somebody who has had like this itch of I'm always the person
- 1:53that everyone goes to when some when everything's going to blow
- 1:55up and there's a big fire, everyone comes to me to solve
- 1:58it. Whenever there is something
- 2:00that's not working, everybody comes to me to comes to me to
- 2:02solve it. Whenever there's something of
- 2:04like a team member that's not performing well, everyone comes
- 2:06to me to try to help fix it and solve it and train them.
- 2:08When there is no system, I'm asked to make the system.
- 2:11And so I just want you to start to realize that if you're
- 2:13noticing that there is this constant pull or this constant
- 2:16need for your time and energy, that is a very big signal that
- 2:20you are a very, very specialized, experienced person
- 2:24who really needs to understand. Do you always and forever want
- 2:28to utilize your gifts and talents for somebody else's
- 2:30dream or do you want to build something for yourself, Right.
- 2:33The reason why I say this is because a lot of the times of
- 2:36the conditioning that we are either raised with or that we
- 2:38are in, in the environment of kind of tells us that we have to
- 2:42either do one thing, stick to one thing, be reasonable, you
- 2:46know, not rock the boat, make sure that we're not being
- 2:49financially insecure and keeping our paycheck steady.
- 2:53There's so many different narratives that we are fed of
- 2:55what security looks like and what the norm in the standard
- 2:58is. And I am somebody who is always
- 3:00trying to push the freaking norm.
- 3:02So if that's not your jam, move on to the next podcast.
- 3:05But if this is your jam, then let's go.
- 3:07So don't get me wrong, as somebody who climbed the ladder
- 3:09and went all approaches 11 years, going from a sample
- 3:11coordinator to a VP, there was a lot that I had to understand how
- 3:15to play the game, how to do the end of the politics piece.
- 3:18And So what I would say is this is you and your experience,
- 3:21whether you're working in the whatever industry you're working
- 3:24in, right? The jobs that you're having, the
- 3:26career path, the trajectory that you're having, every single role
- 3:29is building on skills and experience that you're going to
- 3:32have underneath your belt to build something for yourself.
- 3:35And so I want you to be super cognizant of that.
- 3:37I don't want to think that if you're trying to build a
- 3:39business for yourself that you have to burn everything down
- 3:41that, oh, my degree was a waste of time or the job that I had
- 3:45in, in, you know, the nonprofit space is a waste of time or the
- 3:48job that I had in HR was a waste of time.
- 3:50No, it wasn't. Those are all skills and
- 3:51experiences that you learned that you can now leverage for
- 3:55your business. And I've heard it time and time
- 3:57again. Well, I don't know what I'm good
- 3:59at or this is just general knowledge or I don't know who
- 4:02else it would help or I'm just giving advice to my friends.
- 4:05No, The thing is, is that once we have developed the skill sets
- 4:08and experience about something, we really under play and don't
- 4:12even realize how talented we are when it comes to it.
- 4:15So you may say to yourself, Oh my gosh, I have worked in the HR
- 4:19space for so long. And so I have this knowledge of
- 4:22people ask me questions about HR, whether it's about the
- 4:25recruitment process, whether it's about, you know, what their
- 4:28rights are as an employee, whether it's questions about
- 4:31what it's like to be put on a performance plan and all these
- 4:33different questions. But to me, it's just general
- 4:36knowledge. How is that helpful?
- 4:38And the that's The thing is that when you have been so in the
- 4:41weeds of what it is that you do, you don't necessarily understand
- 4:44how that can be turned into a business.
- 4:45And you can translate those skills over to that.
- 4:47You can translate those skills into consulting for
- 4:49organizations that maybe have hiring issues, translating it
- 4:52over to people who potentially need help with the job search
- 4:54and they don't know and understand ATS.
- 4:57What does that even mean? Resumes, cover letters,
- 4:59interviewing, right? You could also leverage that for
- 5:02those who are business owners who need help when it comes to
- 5:06understanding how to build out their teams, right?
- 5:08How to hire, how to build that out, how to understand the laws
- 5:11and regulations as an employer. There's so many different things
- 5:14that you can do from your lived experience of what you've done
- 5:17to build it into a business. The same thing goes for my
- 5:19nonprofit folks. Like I hear a lot of like it's
- 5:21about the mission, it's about the values, it's about the
- 5:23mission, it's about the values. That's totally fine.
- 5:25I mean, so it is it is for me too.
- 5:27But The thing is, is that I think a lot of nonprofit folks,
- 5:30which I've had many will believe like, oh, if I build a business
- 5:33for myself, it's selfish because I am worrying about making
- 5:38money, but I also want to be mission forward.
- 5:40And you can be both, right? Like, I'm sorry, but a broke
- 5:44nonprofit is not helping anyone. They have to get funding.
- 5:47They have to get grants, they have to fundraise money.
- 5:49And so they're not necessarily moving a mission forward just by
- 5:52having values. They actually have to generate
- 5:55some kind of money to go ahead and help the cause with.
- 5:57That's their fundraising and that's the grants, you name it.
- 6:00And so it's a same thing when you're someone who's going from
- 6:02that nonprofit space for building a business for yourself
- 6:06is understanding how can I take the things that I've learned
- 6:09from the nonprofit space, which could potentially be learning
- 6:12how to fundraise, learning how to build relationships, learning
- 6:14how to identify organizations that can help you that have a
- 6:16potential ways to give education or, you know, give supplies.
- 6:21Being able to identify those pieces is really important.
- 6:23Maybe you did marketing with a nonprofit, right?
- 6:26Being being able to understand who it is that you're trying to
- 6:29attract when it comes from marketing perspective and
- 6:31utilizing that. So taking all those pieces and
- 6:34building it for your business. So this is what I want you to
- 6:36think about. And these are the key takeaways
- 6:38of this conversation is if you're somebody who knows
- 6:42they've always wanted to build something for themselves, but
- 6:44they have no idea where to start, right?
- 6:47And this is the work they do with my clients.
- 6:48This is the first thing we do. I have many, many, many, many a
- 6:52person, a woman who come in and they say to me, I have been
- 6:56super successful at what it is that I do, helping my team,
- 7:00helping my manager, helping my Co workers, helping everybody
- 7:03else either make money, reach their goals, give all my time,
- 7:07overextend myself. And now I want to build
- 7:09something for myself. I want to be able to have
- 7:11something for myself in the future.
- 7:12And I'm very much in the in the camp that you don't have to burn
- 7:15it all down and quit your job to go ahead and build a business.
- 7:18I feel like that can be very, very risky for those of us who
- 7:21may be our risk averse, who came from places that doesn't feel
- 7:24financially safe to do that. And that's OK.
- 7:26And so how can you step one, learn and understand, do the
- 7:30Recon on your skills, on your experience, take inventory in
- 7:34that to actually start to understand what are the skills
- 7:36and experiences that I have that I can utilize and leverage to
- 7:39build my business? And you might say to me, Oh my
- 7:42gosh, Jenny, that sounds so boring.
- 7:43I don't want to do the same thing that I'm doing now, but in
- 7:46my own business. No one's saying you have to do
- 7:48that, right? And here's The thing is that if
- 7:50you're someone who's been thinking about building a
- 7:52business for themselves and you have no idea where to start,
- 7:54this is where you start because it's what you know.
- 7:56So start with what you know and then it can always evolve.
- 7:59But first you see the Recon And so this is what I do with my
- 8:02private clients and one-on-one coaching.
- 8:04I work with my clients either for three to six months.
- 8:06It just truly depends on your goals and how high touch of
- 8:08support you need. But a lot of times even if they
- 8:10do three months, they resign for another three months.
- 8:12So that's usually again, because it's a good time together and
- 8:15they're usually working through and achieving really well.
- 8:17I mean, if you've achieved super well in corporate, could you
- 8:19imagine yourself in coaching? You're going to crush it.
- 8:21And so when my clients are in the, you know, the private
- 8:25coaching experience with me, what the first thing we do is we
- 8:28set your top three goals. So your top three goals might
- 8:30look like something like I want to understand what my experience
- 8:34and skills are that I can translate to a business.
- 8:36I want to understand what's a potential business that I could
- 8:39do. OK, now I want to go ahead and
- 8:41start building the foundations of building a business while I
- 8:44still have my 9:00 to 5:00. And those are some ideas that we
- 8:46go ahead and work through. So then we're talking about, I
- 8:49have them go through a skills assessment where we go through
- 8:51and breakdown what their experience and skills are.
- 8:54They go through that assessment to understand what it is that
- 8:57they can utilize and leverage for their business.
- 9:00Then we go ahead and do the market research assessment where
- 9:02they're doing an assessment on what is out there in the market
- 9:05in comparison, their skills for their potential business they
- 9:07want to build. And then we do a proof of
- 9:08concept of that. And the last piece is building
- 9:11out the foundations of that. What does that look like?
- 9:13Especially with the 9:00 to 5:00 When I was building my business,
- 9:15I did that for two years while I had my VP job.
- 9:17So I was like responsible for, I don't know, four to five
- 9:20different websites and brands. While I was also building my
- 9:23business, while I was also volunteering, I was also being a
- 9:25person. So I don't say that they say
- 9:27that you have to work 24 hours 24/7.
- 9:30I did not. I definitely had time and space
- 9:32to do that, but you have to be able to be really strategic with
- 9:35that. And the best part was that I was
- 9:37able to leverage a lot of my corporate and experience and
- 9:41relationships and move them into my business.
- 9:43And so that's what helped my clients with a lot too.
- 9:44So I have one client, for example, who is more in the
- 9:47health tech space. And so she's actually looking at
- 9:49how can I utilize the relationships that I've built in
- 9:51this space through some, you know, different groups that
- 9:53we've had her connect in. She letters up for consulting,
- 9:56right? I had another client before that
- 9:57who worked in the retail space and she wanted to think that was
- 10:00being more creative and focus more on her artistry.
- 10:03And so we talked about how can she move what she's been doing
- 10:06in that space into the creative artistry that she's been doing.
- 10:09And so, OK, understanding the things she's already learned
- 10:12from a skill set and experience wise of being organized,
- 10:15understanding trends, understanding what's out there,
- 10:16understanding her audience, and then utilizing that in order to
- 10:19get her booked out for her arts and her creativity, which was
- 10:24amazing, was so fun. It was an amazing project.
- 10:27And so I have another line too. She also was primarily in the
- 10:29nonprofit space, looking to go ahead and build something from
- 10:32her house herself from a design perspective, right?
- 10:34So building out websites for for organizations.
- 10:37So she wanted to be mission driven, but also be able to
- 10:39generate revenue. And so in the time of us working
- 10:41together in within one session, charity had landed a contract of
- 10:463K. So that's what I'm saying.
- 10:48Like in the course of us just working together, a lot of the
- 10:50times you have the pieces, we're just making it more strategic
- 10:53and putting it together. So stop sleeping on it because
- 10:56we can very easily work together and make this a plan and a dream
- 10:59for you too. And the reason why I do this, I
- 11:01always bring it back to my why and my mission and what it is,
- 11:04is because I myself, as somebody who didn't necessarily have the
- 11:08path laid out for her, was really trying to figure it out.
- 11:11I was trying to figure it out. I try to find a mentor here, a
- 11:13mentor there, invest in a coach here, invest in a coach there,
- 11:16ask people some questions, had endless networking and market
- 11:19research conversations just to get where I am today.
- 11:22And here's The thing is that what I found is if I kept
- 11:26letting somebody else be the keeper of the keys to my
- 11:28success, I was going to constantly be disappointed
- 11:31because the end of the day, no one's going to be able to work
- 11:34as hard as me, be able to understand the things that I
- 11:36want to do as best as me. I don't want somebody else to be
- 11:39beholden and hold the keys to my future and what it is that I
- 11:43want. And so that's the biggest thing
- 11:44that I found out in corporate, even being a leader and be able
- 11:47to be in control of being able to hire people and develop them
- 11:50and make pushes for people and, you know, negotiate my salary.
- 11:53And I had doubled my salary at one point.
- 11:55It didn't matter. I still ultimately knew that
- 11:57somebody else was going to be in control.
- 11:59And yes, even when you're an entrepreneur, you're not fully
- 12:01in control of every single little thing.
- 12:03But the thing that is so powerful, there's nothing more
- 12:05powerful than knowing that you know how to build a business,
- 12:09you understand your skills and experience, you understand how
- 12:12to speak to the value and how to market them.
- 12:14You understand who it is you want to help and how you can
- 12:16help them. And then when you help them and
- 12:18you see that that is something that you carry with you for a
- 12:21lifetime. And so being able to do that is
- 12:23just a magical thing. This has to be your end all be
- 12:25all. You can always try that out and
- 12:27see if it is that you want to do it or maybe it's something that
- 12:29you end up not wanting to pursue, but better to try.
- 12:31If you've been thinking about it over over, over again and you
- 12:34can't shake it, that means it's time to tackle it, right?
- 12:38You just have a fear that is coming up.
- 12:40And that's what we talked about in coaching, right?
- 12:41I get told a lot of the times I'm like a coach therapist.
- 12:44I don't claim to own that I am a therapist, but I do get told
- 12:47that many, many times because I'm truly a mixture of facts and
- 12:51feelings. I don't just go off of feelings.
- 12:52I also go off of facts and data and our feelings are signals
- 12:55that we typically need more data and so I'm always here to help
- 12:58with that. Hopefully you found this
- 12:59helpful. And if you want to work
- 13:00together, I highly recommend you go to mywebsite@danitan.com.
- 13:04That's DANITA n.com and go to contact and you can go ahead and
- 13:09book a call with me. But can you discovery call with
- 13:12me looks like this. We are together on that call for
- 13:15the 1st 30 minutes. I'm asking you questions.
- 13:17I really want to run a diagnostic of what are your
- 13:21goals, what have you kind of tried, where are you essentially
- 13:24stuck and what support you're looking for.
- 13:26And then I make a custom recommendation to you based off
- 13:30of those things of what it would look like to work together in a
- 13:33plan we would tackle during our time together.
- 13:35And then you decide if it makes sense.
- 13:36And I decide if it makes sense too.
- 13:38I don't truly take on everyone. I take on people who feel like
- 13:41the right fit for me and also the right fit for them.
- 13:43And so just know that it's a very, very low stakes
- 13:46conversation where you can just go ahead and just meet me and
- 13:48say hi. But then also understand what
- 13:51it's like to work together in coaching.
- 13:52Know that if you make a call, it does not make a commitment to
- 13:55having to do coaching, just making a commitment that you're
- 13:57taking a step forward towards what it is that you want to do.
- 13:59All right, hopefully found this episode helpful and I hopefully
- 14:03will catch you next week. All right, have a good one.