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Speaker 1: today's five stories. In nineteen seventy eight, sixteen year old
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Speaker 1: Bridget Geiger was waiting outside her home in Ohio for
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Speaker 1: a boy named Jeffrey to take her to prom. She
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Speaker 1: wasn't particularly excited to go to prom with Jeffrey.
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Speaker 2: He was known to be.
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Speaker 1: Really nervous around girls, and so she figured it was
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Speaker 1: going to be a pretty awkward date. But nobody else
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Speaker 1: had asked her to go, and she really wanted to
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Speaker 1: go to prom, so she said yes. When Jeffrey showed up,
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Speaker 1: she was immediately disappointed. He was wearing this odd ensemble
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Speaker 1: of vest and bow tie as opposed to the standard
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Speaker 1: tuxedo that she was anticipating him wearing, and so.
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Speaker 2: Now they weren't going to match.
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Speaker 1: He was also so nervous that he was visibly shaking
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Speaker 1: and couldn't pin her corsage to her dress, and so
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Speaker 1: Bridget's mom had to come out and put the corsage on.
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Speaker 1: After the corsage was on, Bridget's mom would take a
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Speaker 1: couple of very awkward photos of them kind of stiffly
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Speaker 1: standing in front of her house before they ultimately got
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Speaker 1: in Jeff's car and headed for the prom. When they arrived,
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Speaker 1: Bridgett wanted to go on the dance floor to see
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Speaker 1: her other friends to kind of lighten the mood because
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Speaker 1: she was not having a good time with Jeffrey so far.
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Speaker 1: But she did stay with him, and it was clear
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Speaker 1: that Jeffrey hated being at the prom.
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Speaker 2: He hated being.
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Speaker 1: Around the swarming group of teenagers, bridget felt kind of
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Speaker 1: bad and said, hey, Jeffrey, do you want to go
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Speaker 1: sit down and just grab a bite.
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Speaker 2: To eat over at the little food cart they have here.
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Speaker 1: Jeffrey's very relieved and says, yes, I'd love to do that,
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Speaker 1: and the pair leave the dance floor and walk over
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Speaker 1: to the little food court area. As they're about to
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Speaker 1: sit down, Jeffrey pulls the chair out for bridget she
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Speaker 1: sits down, he kind of pushes her in like a gentleman,
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Speaker 1: but then instead of sitting down with her, he just
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Speaker 1: walks away without telling her where he's going. Bridgett assumed
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Speaker 1: he was just going to the bathroom, but after a
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Speaker 1: really long amount of time had passed and it was
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Speaker 1: clear he had not just gone to the bathroom, she
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Speaker 1: got up to go look for him, and so she
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Speaker 1: went on.
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Speaker 2: The dance floor.
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Speaker 1: She can't find him in the building, and so she
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Speaker 1: goes outside to see if maybe his car's not there anymore,
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Speaker 1: maybe he just left, and she sees his car still
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Speaker 1: in the lot. When she turns around to go back
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Speaker 1: into the prom she sees Jeffrey sitting on a curb
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Speaker 1: just eating McDonald's cheeseburgers, and she goes over to him
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Speaker 1: and she's like, what are you doing out here? And
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Speaker 1: so he told her that he just wanted to step
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Speaker 1: outside and get a couple of cheeseburgers and then come
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Speaker 1: back and he would sit with her while she ate,
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Speaker 1: but they wouldn't let him back in, and so he
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Speaker 1: just went and got more cheeseburgers and thought he would
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Speaker 1: wait here until.
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Speaker 2: She came outside.
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Speaker 1: And now that she was outside, she couldn't get back
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Speaker 1: in either. So she just says, hey, I'd like to
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Speaker 1: just go home. And so Jeffrey is mortified and he
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Speaker 1: tells her, I'm so sorry. I wanted this to be
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Speaker 1: a nice evening for you. I'm sorry it wasn't. He
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Speaker 1: drives her home, he says goodbye, she walks into her house,
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Speaker 1: he drives off, and that was that. Bridget only saw
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Speaker 1: Jeffrey one more time after that. It was about a
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Speaker 1: week after prom, and Jeffrey actually invited her to come
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Speaker 1: over's house for what he was.
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Speaker 2: Calling a house party.
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Speaker 1: And Bridget's like, there's no way this kid's throwing a
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Speaker 1: house party. He can barely stand to be around just me.
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Speaker 2: Let alone a crowd of people. But She was polite
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Speaker 2: and said, sure, I'd love to come to your house party.
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Speaker 1: She gets there and there's no food, there's no music,
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Speaker 1: There's like three people there, and as soon as she
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Speaker 1: walks in, all Jeffrey wanted to do was have a
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Speaker 1: seance and communicate with the devil. She was so immediately
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Speaker 1: creeped out by Jeffrey's behavior that after only a couple
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Speaker 1: of minutes, she just turned around and left his house
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Speaker 1: party and did not see him again well until thirteen
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Speaker 1: years later, when.
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Speaker 2: She would read about him in the newspaper.
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Speaker 1: Thirteen years later, on July twenty second, nineteen ninety one, Milwaukee, Wisconsin,
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Speaker 1: police spot a man named Tracy Edwards.
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Speaker 2: Running down the road in handcuffs.
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Speaker 1: They run over to him and they say what's going on,
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Speaker 1: and he says that a man was holding him hostage
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Speaker 1: in his apartment, that he threatened to kill me. I
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Speaker 1: was able to overpower him and escape, and here I am.
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Speaker 1: The police go to this apartment that he apparently escaped from,
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Speaker 1: and they knock on the door. The door opens and
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Speaker 1: the police are confronted by this tall man who introduces
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Speaker 1: himself as Jeffrey.
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Speaker 2: He tells police this is.
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Speaker 1: All a big misunderstanding, and that Tracy Edwards is a
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Speaker 1: friend of his and I don't know what's gotten into him.
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Speaker 1: And the pl at least were actually close to believing him.
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Speaker 1: They would even say he was really convincing. But as
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Speaker 1: they're talking to him, one of the officers kind of
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Speaker 1: looks behind Jeffrey into his apartment and he sees on
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Speaker 1: the coffee table what are clearly pictures of dismembered body parts,
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Speaker 1: And so they arrest Jeffrey, and when his apartment was
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Speaker 1: fully searched, a house of horrors is revealed. In addition
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Speaker 1: to photos of body parts, the apartment itself was littered
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Speaker 1: with human remains. There were several human heads in the
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Speaker 1: freezer and the refrigerator, and in his bedroom was a
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Speaker 1: fifty seven gallon drum containing more dead bodies that were
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Speaker 1: decomposing in chemicals. There was also evidence that suggested Jeffrey
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Speaker 1: was eating these people. Now, Jeffrey lived in a crowded
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Speaker 1: apartment complex, and so other neighbors had complained about this
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Speaker 1: awful smell coming from his room, but he had been
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Speaker 1: able to explain it away and convince everybody that it
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Speaker 1: was just some bad meat.
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Speaker 2: However, the most horrifying.
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Speaker 1: Revelation about how Jeffrey was able to conceal these horrible
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Speaker 1: crimes he was committing in the middle of a city apartment.
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Speaker 2: Would come a few days later.
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Speaker 1: Apparently, two months before Tracy Edwards had run out of
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Speaker 1: Jeffrey's apartment in handcuffs and flagged those officers down. Another
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Speaker 1: boy had left the apartment in handcuffs and was running
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Speaker 1: down the road and police stopped him.
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Speaker 2: But the boy couldn't really speak.
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Speaker 1: He wasn't able to articulate why he was there or
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Speaker 1: what he was doing. And as police are talking to him,
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Speaker 1: Jeffrey comes running up the road, flags the officers down
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Speaker 1: and thanks them for finding his boyfriend. They had gotten
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Speaker 1: into a lover's quarrel, and then everything was just fine,
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Speaker 1: and so the police shrug it off and say, no problem.
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Speaker 1: We'll even give you a ride back to your apartment,
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Speaker 1: And so they drive the boy and Jeffrey back to
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Speaker 1: Jeffrey's apartment.
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Speaker 2: They watched them go inside and the police leave.
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Speaker 1: But if the police had paid a little bit more attention,
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Speaker 1: they would have seen there was a hole drilled in
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Speaker 1: the back of his head by Jeffrey. He had been
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Speaker 1: pouring acid into this kid's head to try to control him,
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Speaker 1: and that was why this boy couldn't speak. And as
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Speaker 1: soon as the police let them go back into the apartment,
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Speaker 1: Jeffrey killed the boy. Because Jeffrey Bridgets a prom date
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Speaker 1: turned out to be none other than infamous serial killer
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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Dahmer, who killed seventeen people over a thirteen year period.
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Speaker 1: Just days after this picture was taken of Jeffrey and Bridget,
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Speaker 1: right before they headed off to prom together, Jeffrey would
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Speaker 1: kill his first victim and start.
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Speaker 2: That thirteen year killing spree.
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Speaker 1: Dahmer was ultimately given a life sentence, but was killed
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Speaker 1: by another inmate in two thousand and four. Sixteen year
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Speaker 1: old Misty Tasker was a typical American teenager living in
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Speaker 1: Live Oak, Florida, which is a small rural town right
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Speaker 1: in the middle.
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Speaker 2: Of the state.
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Speaker 1: One Saturday evening in January, she and her mother attended
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Speaker 1: a church service. Afterwards, they hopped in her mother's truck
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Speaker 1: and they got on the country highway and began making
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Speaker 1: their way home.
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Speaker 2: Their house was just twenty minutes down.
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Speaker 1: This highway was a straight shot, and this highway was
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Speaker 1: pretty desolate.
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Speaker 2: There were no street lights.
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Speaker 1: It was actually a dirt road despite being a highway,
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Speaker 1: and it was just thick forest on both sides of
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Speaker 1: the road.
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Speaker 2: The entire way.
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Speaker 1: There were no buildings or houses between the church and
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Speaker 1: their neighborhood. Missy's mother was already a very anxious driver
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Speaker 1: who would keep both hands on the wheel. She would
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Speaker 1: sit up and kind of hunch over the wheel and
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Speaker 1: keep her eyes intently focused on the road. But at night,
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Speaker 1: her driving anxiety would shoot through the roof because she
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Speaker 1: had really bad eyesight, and so she would go to
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Speaker 1: great lengths to not drive at night to avoid that
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Speaker 1: high level of anxiety.
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Speaker 2: But the church service they had.
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Speaker 1: Just come from had run a little bit long, and
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Speaker 1: so now Misty's mother is driving with the sun starting
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Speaker 1: to set, and she's going as fast as she can
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Speaker 1: to try to get home before it gets too dark.
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Speaker 1: And so as they're bombing down this road at about
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Speaker 1: fifty five miles an hour despite it being about a
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Speaker 1: forty mile per hour zone, Misty, who's in the passenger seat,
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Speaker 1: just happens to look over at her mother for no
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Speaker 1: particular reason. And as she's looking at her, she notices
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Speaker 1: out her mother's window it looks like there's a little
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Speaker 1: girl sitting on the side of the road. What's a
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Speaker 1: child doing out here in the middle of nowhere? She
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Speaker 1: says to her mom, I think I just saw a
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Speaker 1: little girl. And Missy's mother, who's high up on the wheels,
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Speaker 1: she did not hear Missy the first time. She's just
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Speaker 1: focused on driving and trying to get home. And so
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Speaker 1: Missy says, again, I think I just saw a little girl.
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Speaker 1: We need to go back.
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Speaker 2: I don't know what she's doing, but I feel like
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Speaker 2: we need to go.
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Speaker 1: Back and make sure she's okay. And so Misty's mom
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Speaker 1: looks over at her, and she's not prepared to turn
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Speaker 1: the car around.
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Speaker 2: That means staying out.
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Speaker 1: Later, and it means she's going to be driving in
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Speaker 1: even darker conditions. And so she's like, did you really
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Speaker 1: see someone? Because we got to get home, and Missy's like, Mom,
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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I.
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Speaker 2: Saw a little girl. We have to go back.
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Speaker 1: And so finally Missy's mother, she's very annoyed, but she
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Speaker 1: stops the car. She does a three point turn, and
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Speaker 1: she begins driving back up.
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Speaker 2: The road where they came from towards this girl.
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Speaker 1: Now they had only made it about a half mile
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Speaker 1: from where Misty believed she had seen this girl, and
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Speaker 1: so pretty quickly they slowed down because Missy said, I
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Speaker 1: think she's in this area, and they both began scanning
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Speaker 1: the right side of the road.
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Speaker 2: Because that's where she's going to be. Now that they've
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Speaker 2: turned around.
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Speaker 1: Now it was starting to get very dark outside, but
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Speaker 1: there was enough light and they had headlights.
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Speaker 2: They were pretty confident they'd be able to spot this girl.
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Speaker 1: And so as they're slow rolling down the road, they
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Speaker 1: both see this girl a little ways up on the
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Speaker 1: right hand side.
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Speaker 2: Her back was to the road.
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Speaker 1: She had her knees tucked up to her chest, and
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Speaker 1: she was rocking back and forth. Missy's mother made a
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Speaker 1: comment that it was a little bit surprising that this
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Speaker 1: girl was out here.
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Speaker 2: I mean, there's really nothing around here.
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Speaker 1: There's no houses, there's no buildings, there's no trails to
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Speaker 1: be walking in in this forest on either side, it
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Speaker 1: was just kind of thick forest, and so she just
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Speaker 1: thought it was very strange that this girl would even
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Speaker 1: be out here, especially because there's not any traffic on
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Speaker 1: this road. And so Missy's mother began slowly rolling up
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Speaker 1: to her, and she told her daughter that instead of
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Speaker 1: just stopping right away, let's just drive past her and
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Speaker 1: get a look at her, and then we'll turn around
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Speaker 1: and see if she needs any help.
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Speaker 2: And so as they got right up.
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Speaker 1: Next to her, they realized she was not a little girl.
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Speaker 1: She was a young teenager, but she was not a
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Speaker 1: young young child. And as they drove right past her,
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Speaker 1: they would expect her to turn around and acknowledge the
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Speaker 1: car creeping up on her, considering there's there's no other
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Speaker 1: traffic in the area, and you're just some person sitting
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Speaker 1: on the side of the road. You should definitely turn
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Speaker 1: around and see what's behind you. But the girl did
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Speaker 1: not acknowledge them. She just continued to have her knees
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Speaker 1: up to her chest and rocked back and forth. And
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Speaker 1: so Misty and her mother are a little bit freaked
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Speaker 1: out by this, but they drive past her about fifty meters.
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Speaker 1: Misty's mother does a three point turn, and when they're
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Speaker 1: looking back down the road where the girls should now
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Speaker 1: be on their left hand side, they're oriented back towards
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Speaker 1: their house. Now she wasn't there anymore, but there were
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Speaker 1: no street lights. It was now almost completely pitch dark outside,
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Speaker 1: and so all they had was the headlights. And so
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Speaker 1: Misty told her mom, you know, drive up a little ways.
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Speaker 1: Maybe the girl stood up and moved and we just
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Speaker 1: can't see her because she's not in the headlights.
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Speaker 2: And so Missy's mom began driving.
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Speaker 1: Down the road and kind of turning slightly towards the
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Speaker 1: left to shine the light more to the left, but
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Speaker 1: there was no sign of this girl. For good measure,
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Speaker 1: they turned right slightly to shine the lights more to
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Speaker 1: the right hand side of the road, but there was
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Speaker 1: no sign of this girl. And so Misty and her
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Speaker 1: mother just slow rolled back down the road, kind of
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Speaker 1: keeping their eye out on both sides. But after traveling
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Speaker 1: for several minutes, going about five ten miles an hour,
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Speaker 1: and seeing no sign of this girl, they decided that well,
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Speaker 1: she must have just gone back into the woods and
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Speaker 1: gone back to wherever it was she came from. And
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Speaker 1: so Misty's mom began picking up speed, and before long
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Speaker 1: they had gone maybe two or three miles away from
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Speaker 1: where they had seen this girl, and they were coming
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Speaker 1: up to this four way intersection with stop signs all around,
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Speaker 1: and as they were getting close, Missy's mother gasped because
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Speaker 1: on the other side of the intersection, on the right
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Speaker 1: hand side, was this girl.
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Speaker 2: Sitting on the side of the road.
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Speaker 1: She's got her back to the road, her knees are
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Speaker 1: up and she's rocking back and forth, and so Misty's
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Speaker 1: mother pulls up the stop sign and then just sits there,
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Speaker 1: and both women are just stunned at what they're looking at.
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Speaker 1: They had just seen her two three miles back down
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Speaker 1: the road. It wasn't possible for her to get all
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Speaker 1: the way up here, and so Misty's mother looks at
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Speaker 1: her daughter and says, you know, do you think it's
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Speaker 1: a different girl, And Missy's like, no, that's the same girl.
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Speaker 1: And so they just sat there for a minute until
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Speaker 1: Missy started to panic and she said to her mom,
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Speaker 1: don't stop.
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Speaker 2: I got a bad feeling about this girl.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on, but you can't stop
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Speaker 1: next to this girl. But Misty's mom, she was definitely
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Speaker 1: weirded out by this situation, no doubt, but she didn't
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Speaker 1: feel good about abandoning this girl in the middle of
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Speaker 1: the night on the side of the highway, and so
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Speaker 1: even though she felt a little bit hesitant herself, she
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Speaker 1: told Misty, you know, we have to at least drive
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Speaker 1: past her and ask if she's Okay, that's the least
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Speaker 1: we can do. And Misty was not having it. She said, Mom,
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Speaker 1: do not stop. I got a bad feeling about this.
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Speaker 1: Don't stop near this girl. But Missy's mom let up
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Speaker 1: off the.
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Speaker 2: Break and began slow rolling past this intersection.
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Speaker 1: And now at this point, Misty is just absolutely terrified,
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Speaker 1: and so she takes her seatbelt off and she goes
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Speaker 1: down into the footwell right in front of her seat,
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Speaker 1: and she closes her eyes and covers her ears, and
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Speaker 1: she just continues to beg her mother to just please
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Speaker 1: keep going.
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Speaker 2: Don't stop.
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Speaker 1: But her mother just continues on until she stops right
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Speaker 1: next to this girl who's still just sitting on the
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Speaker 1: side of the road with her back to the road.
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Speaker 1: She's got her knees up, she's rocking back and forth.
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Speaker 1: She's not a knowledging Misty or her mother. And so
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Speaker 1: Misty's mother turns to her daughter and says, please roll
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Speaker 1: down your window, and Misty refuses. She's still down in
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Speaker 1: the footwell, still in the fetal position.
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Speaker 2: She's crying, and she's still begging her mother to please
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Speaker 2: just go home.
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Speaker 1: And so Misty's mother, frustrated, reaches across the passenger seat
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Speaker 1: and grabs the knob to roll down the window manually.
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Speaker 1: So she rolls the window down, and Misty, who's down
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Speaker 1: in the footwell, all she remembers, is sitting there covering
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Speaker 1: up her ears, and she's crying, and she opens her
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Speaker 1: eyes and she's looking up towards her mom, who's reaching
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Speaker 1: over the seat, and her mom yells out to this girl,
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Speaker 1: and Misty remembers looking at her mom, who suddenly recoils
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Speaker 1: in horror and screams, and then they take off like crazy,
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Speaker 1: flying down the road. Misty jumps out of the foot
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Speaker 1: well and she's looking at her mom and she's like,
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Speaker 1: what's happening?
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Speaker 2: What just happened? What did you see?
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Speaker 1: And her mom's got her hand over her mouth, and
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Speaker 1: she's speeding down the road and she's crying now, and
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Speaker 1: she's looking at Misty and she just doesn't have the
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Speaker 1: words to describe what she just saw. And so Misty's
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Speaker 1: asking her mom, what did you see? What happened? And
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Speaker 1: finally her mother just said she didn't have a face.
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Speaker 1: She didn't have a face. It was hollow, there was
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Speaker 1: nothing on her face when she looked at me. And
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Speaker 1: so Misty screams and she's crying, and her mom is crying,
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Speaker 1: and they speed home their homes just a couple of
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Speaker 1: minutes later, and they run inside, practically falling over each
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Speaker 1: other to get in the house. And as soon as
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Speaker 1: they get inside, Misty's mom calls nine one one, And
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Speaker 1: she didn't even know how to describe what she just saw,
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Speaker 1: but she knew it was too embarrassing to try to
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Speaker 1: describe it as some girl without a face sitting by
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Speaker 1: the highway, and so she just.
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Speaker 2: Told the police that they had seen a girl they
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Speaker 2: think needs help.
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Speaker 1: And so the police they went out and they searched
15:34
Speaker 1: the entire stretch of highway.
15:36
Speaker 2: They looked for any sign of anybody out there, but
15:39
Speaker 2: there wasn't. There was never any trace of that girl.
15:57
Speaker 1: In twenty eighteen, a twenty one year old, brand new
16:00
Speaker 1: police officer named Derek was dumped by his longtime girlfriend.
16:04
Speaker 1: This breakup caught him by surprise because he had actually
16:07
Speaker 1: just recently moved to Colorado in order to.
16:10
Speaker 2: Be closer to his girlfriend, So naturally he was devastated.
16:13
Speaker 1: After a few weeks of being so depressed and kind
16:16
Speaker 1: of just moping around and going through the motions in
16:18
Speaker 1: his life.
16:18
Speaker 2: At this point, one of his.
16:20
Speaker 1: Very close friends suggested to him like, hey, man, look,
16:22
Speaker 1: why don't you just make a profile on Tinder, the
16:25
Speaker 1: online dating service, and just put yourself out there again.
16:27
Speaker 1: You have no idea who's out there. Clearly your ex
16:30
Speaker 1: girlfriend was not the one. Derek had met his ex
16:33
Speaker 1: girlfriend in a bar, and every other girlfriend he had
16:36
Speaker 1: ever had he had met in person, so online dating
16:39
Speaker 1: was definitely not on his radar. But he was so
16:41
Speaker 1: lonely and sad he figured, you know what, I got
16:43
Speaker 1: nothing to lose, and so he made himself a tender profile.
16:46
Speaker 1: Derek quickly matched with a woman on Tinder named Leah
16:50
Speaker 1: that he said was way.
16:51
Speaker 2: Out of his league, but he wasn't complaining.
16:53
Speaker 1: They chatted for a couple of weeks and they got
16:55
Speaker 1: on great, and so they wanted to get together and
16:57
Speaker 1: actually meet each other in person, but leave well over
17:00
Speaker 1: an hour away from Derek's there wasn't a natural meeting place,
17:04
Speaker 1: and they're going back and forth about where they want
17:06
Speaker 1: to go, and finally Leah just says, hey, why don't
17:08
Speaker 1: you just come to my town. There's this great park
17:10
Speaker 1: that I go running in all the time, and they
17:12
Speaker 1: had this awesome field that's on a slope and you
17:14
Speaker 1: can lay on it and look up through the trees
17:16
Speaker 1: and you can see the stars. And so that would
17:18
Speaker 1: be a cool thing to do on our first date,
17:20
Speaker 1: go stargazing together. So the date night finally came, and
17:23
Speaker 1: Derek was really excited. He was nervous too, because even
17:25
Speaker 1: though they talked in the phone, this the first time
17:27
Speaker 1: they're going to see each other. And so the plan
17:29
Speaker 1: was he was going to drive out to her town
17:31
Speaker 1: and actually pick her up from her work. She worked
17:32
Speaker 1: at a hair salon, and from there they would make
17:35
Speaker 1: their way over to this park.
17:36
Speaker 2: And so Derek pulls up to.
17:37
Speaker 1: The hair salon right as Leah's coming outside, and she's
17:39
Speaker 1: all excited.
17:40
Speaker 2: She's waving to him.
17:41
Speaker 1: She runs over and she gets in the car and
17:43
Speaker 1: they hug and kiss in the cheek and it's like
17:46
Speaker 1: they knew each other, but they didn't know each other
17:48
Speaker 1: because their entire relationship was online or via textinger or
17:51
Speaker 1: a phone call, and so it's like they had history
17:54
Speaker 1: but they didn't.
17:55
Speaker 2: But either way, Derek was really happy, and it seems
17:57
Speaker 2: like Leah was too.
17:58
Speaker 1: From the hair salon, it was a pretty short drive
18:00
Speaker 1: to this access road that's gonna bring them into this park,
18:03
Speaker 1: And when Leah told him to make this turn, it
18:05
Speaker 1: didn't look like a very well marked trail or even
18:08
Speaker 1: a marked park. It looked like this kind of random
18:10
Speaker 1: access road that Derek would not have associated with a
18:13
Speaker 1: big public park. But he doesn't know the area, and
18:15
Speaker 1: so he turns and he starts heating down this road,
18:17
Speaker 1: and the road went from cement to dirt pretty quickly.
18:21
Speaker 1: And this whole time he's thinking to himself, like, did
18:23
Speaker 1: I think a wrong turn?
18:24
Speaker 2: Does she know like where she's going?
18:25
Speaker 1: This does not feel like the way you drive into
18:29
Speaker 1: a big park, the way she was describing. Finally, they
18:31
Speaker 1: land back on cement and they're actually on this road
18:34
Speaker 1: that's right up against this huge field, and so right
18:37
Speaker 1: away Derek stress is gone because now it's confirmed in
18:39
Speaker 1: his mind that Okay, that's.
18:40
Speaker 2: A weird way to get into this park.
18:42
Speaker 1: But here's this huge, amazing field and we're back on
18:44
Speaker 1: a real road and everything's good again.
18:46
Speaker 2: Derek asked, layout, you know, where should I park?
18:48
Speaker 1: Because they're on this really narrow road and there didn't
18:50
Speaker 1: appear to be a parking lot.
18:52
Speaker 2: There also didn't appear to be anybody else on this
18:55
Speaker 2: field or on this road.
18:56
Speaker 1: It's this huge, open, beautiful space, but it did not
18:58
Speaker 1: look well poppedulated or like it was well traveled. But
19:02
Speaker 1: she said, just go right up there, there's a small
19:04
Speaker 1: lot you can pull into. And so Derek starts going
19:06
Speaker 1: up this road and he sees, maybe three hundred feet
19:08
Speaker 1: ahead of him are dim headlights of another car making
19:11
Speaker 1: their way down the road towards him. And now it
19:14
Speaker 1: was dark enough that he couldn't really make out what
19:16
Speaker 1: kind of vehicle it was, and so he didn't know
19:18
Speaker 1: if it was going to be some big truck or
19:20
Speaker 1: something like that. And so what he did is he
19:22
Speaker 1: just pulled over as far to the side of the
19:24
Speaker 1: road as he could to allow this vehicle to pass.
19:26
Speaker 2: Even though there was a fair amount of distance they would.
19:28
Speaker 1: Need to cover before they were passing him, he figured,
19:31
Speaker 1: just give them the right of the road. And so
19:33
Speaker 1: as they start moving forward, he can see that it's
19:35
Speaker 1: actually this big ban and they're moving pretty slowly, and
19:38
Speaker 1: he's just kind of waiting for them to pass, and
19:39
Speaker 1: he's not thinking anything of this. He's thinking that this
19:42
Speaker 1: is just another person at the park, and this ban,
19:44
Speaker 1: instead of passing him, actually turns the last second and
19:48
Speaker 1: almost goes bumper to bumper with Derek's car. He doesn't
19:51
Speaker 1: crash into it, but he stops just in front of
19:54
Speaker 1: Derek's car. And so Derek is a cop, he's a
19:56
Speaker 1: brand new cop, and he's super aggressive, you know, he
19:59
Speaker 1: really believed Eaves in his training. And so as soon
20:02
Speaker 1: as this guy stopped in front of him and blocked
20:04
Speaker 1: the path for him, red flags are going up for Derek,
20:07
Speaker 1: and he knows something's wrong with this van, and instinctively
20:10
Speaker 1: he says, LEAs stay here. He grabs this flashlight that
20:12
Speaker 1: he kept right in the center console and he jumped
20:14
Speaker 1: out of the car and went right to the driver's
20:16
Speaker 1: side door of this van to confront this guy.
20:19
Speaker 2: And when he got up to the driver's side door,
20:20
Speaker 2: it was.
20:20
Speaker 1: This really big guy who looked pretty startled to see
20:23
Speaker 1: Derek come charging up to him with a splashlight.
20:26
Speaker 2: And Derek's like, what are you doing, man? What do
20:28
Speaker 2: you blocking me in for?
20:29
Speaker 1: And the guy's like, oh, hey, sorry, I'm the caretaker
20:31
Speaker 1: here of this whole property, and we've had an issue
20:34
Speaker 1: with poachers in the area and I was concerned you
20:37
Speaker 1: guys were poachers. It doesn't look like you're poachers, though,
20:39
Speaker 1: and Derek's liked, no, we're not poachers. We're going stargazing.
20:41
Speaker 1: I'm on my first daid here, and the Caretaker's like,
20:43
Speaker 1: I am so sorry. Please get back in.
20:45
Speaker 2: Your car or go and enjoy your night.
20:47
Speaker 1: And at that he backed up to a three point
20:49
Speaker 1: turn and drove right back up that road where he
20:51
Speaker 1: came from and disappeared down on the other side of
20:54
Speaker 1: the hill. Derek stood in front of his car for
20:56
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes, making sure this guy was gone,
20:58
Speaker 1: and then he turned around and he got back car,
21:00
Speaker 1: and he kind of joked with Leah means like, yeah,
21:02
Speaker 1: he thought we were poachers. I guess you will have
21:04
Speaker 1: poacher to him, and that's why he stopped us.
21:06
Speaker 2: But when he looked over at Leah to react to
21:08
Speaker 2: his hilarious joke, she wasn't paying attention to him. She
21:11
Speaker 2: was just furiously typing.
21:12
Speaker 1: Away on her phone, which Derek did think was a
21:15
Speaker 1: little bit odd. You'd think that she'd be more interested
21:17
Speaker 1: in this strange thing.
21:18
Speaker 2: That just happened. Some weird guy just blocked us in
21:21
Speaker 2: and I'm confronting him.
21:22
Speaker 1: You'd think she'd be interested in that. On some level,
21:24
Speaker 1: she might want to know what I said to the
21:26
Speaker 1: guy and what he said to me, But she didn't
21:28
Speaker 1: seem to care.
21:29
Speaker 2: She was just really invested in whoever she was typing
21:31
Speaker 2: on her phone.
21:32
Speaker 1: And so Derek thinks whatever and just throws the car
21:34
Speaker 1: back and drive and continues up the trail the way
21:36
Speaker 1: they were going before they were stopped. So Derek continues
21:38
Speaker 1: down the road just a little ways until he sees
21:41
Speaker 1: a little dirt lot that's butted up against this huge
21:43
Speaker 1: field they're going to be hanging out on for the night,
21:45
Speaker 1: and so he pulls into the lot, backs into his space,
21:48
Speaker 1: and he and Leah get out and they put a
21:50
Speaker 1: blanket out right next to the car, but on the
21:52
Speaker 1: grass on the hill, and they get their food out
21:54
Speaker 1: and their wine out, and they sit down and very
21:57
Speaker 1: quickly they start swapping stories and there laughing and they're
22:00
Speaker 1: stargazing and they're having some wine and everything's really great.
22:04
Speaker 1: After about an hour, it's totally dark outside, and Derek
22:08
Speaker 1: is laying on the hill, facing back towards his car
22:10
Speaker 1: and towards the road they were on, and he notices
22:13
Speaker 1: to his left up at the top of the hill,
22:15
Speaker 1: so the same area where the van had come from originally,
22:18
Speaker 1: and where it went back to after they spoke that
22:20
Speaker 1: one time. Derek is looking out there and he sees
22:23
Speaker 1: headlights and it's the van. And now the van is
22:25
Speaker 1: driving down the road, not leisurely like it was before,
22:28
Speaker 1: but they are flying down the hill. And before Derek
22:31
Speaker 1: or Leah have a chance to react to this van
22:34
Speaker 1: barreling down on them, it comes flying into the parking
22:37
Speaker 1: lot and practically hits his car and comes to a
22:39
Speaker 1: stop where it's boxed his car in, so even if
22:42
Speaker 1: he got in his car, he couldn't drive away. And
22:44
Speaker 1: so Derek jumps up, Lea jumps up, and the guy,
22:47
Speaker 1: the caretaker, the nice caretaker he talked to before he
22:50
Speaker 1: hops out of the driver's seat and he walks around
22:52
Speaker 1: the front of the van. He's got this pipe in
22:54
Speaker 1: his hand and he looks at Derek and he's like,
22:55
Speaker 1: give me your keys and your wallet. And again, Derek
22:58
Speaker 1: is this brand new cop. You know, he's twenty one
23:00
Speaker 1: years old. He's not about to let this guy push
23:02
Speaker 1: him around. And so he doesn't do anything at first.
23:04
Speaker 1: He doesn't know what he's gonna do, but he doesn't
23:06
Speaker 1: do anything at first. He just looks at this guy
23:08
Speaker 1: and he shows him that I'm not just gonna fall
23:10
Speaker 1: over because he told me to. But then Derek has
23:12
Speaker 1: given a huge curve ball when Leah, his date, stands
23:15
Speaker 1: up and runs over to the sky and stands next
23:18
Speaker 1: to him and turns around and looks at Derek and goes,
23:21
Speaker 1: come on, give us your keys and wallet. And Derek's like, great,
23:24
Speaker 1: I'm getting set up by my date. I've spent the
23:26
Speaker 1: past two hours with Hi. I was I had a
23:28
Speaker 1: connection with this girl. And so now Derek is just
23:31
Speaker 1: standing there doing nothing, not to be tough, but because
23:33
Speaker 1: he's in shock. He feels so betrayed by Leah and
23:37
Speaker 1: he just feels like, how could this have happened? And
23:39
Speaker 1: in that moment, Leo walks to the back of the
23:41
Speaker 1: van and she gets a metal pipe. She comes back
23:44
Speaker 1: around and she goes, Derek, give us your keys and
23:47
Speaker 1: your wallet.
23:48
Speaker 2: We don't want to have to hurt you.
23:49
Speaker 1: And this is when Derek looks at them both and
23:51
Speaker 1: he goes no, And as soon as he said that,
23:54
Speaker 1: the big guy tackles him. He gets thrown to the ground,
23:56
Speaker 1: but Derek could handle himself and very quickly he was
23:59
Speaker 1: able to get up and he drew his concealed carry
24:01
Speaker 1: pistol and he's aiming it at the big guy and
24:03
Speaker 1: then back at Leah and he's like, yeah, I'm a cop,
24:05
Speaker 1: go ahead and put your hands up now. As soon
24:07
Speaker 1: as they saw the gun, they both dropped their pipes
24:08
Speaker 1: and put their hands up, And so as he's holding
24:10
Speaker 1: them both at gunpoint, he's looking.
24:12
Speaker 2: Over at Leah like, really, you did this to me?
24:14
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? Right now?
24:16
Speaker 1: As he's doing that, he has to get his cell
24:18
Speaker 1: phone out of his pocket, type in nine to one
24:20
Speaker 1: one and then called dispatch and had to say who
24:23
Speaker 1: he was, what his badge number was, what happened, and
24:26
Speaker 1: where he is and where.
24:27
Speaker 2: He is was difficult to describe.
24:29
Speaker 1: And so as he's trying to explain these directions and
24:31
Speaker 1: he's saying, yo, yep, go left at the light and
24:33
Speaker 1: then there's a gas station there.
24:35
Speaker 2: You're gonna go up this field. You're gonna see me
24:37
Speaker 2: and at these two people at gunpoint.
24:38
Speaker 1: As he's doing that, Leah and the caretaker look at
24:41
Speaker 1: each other and they just turn around and bolt. They
24:43
Speaker 1: figure he's distracted, we can at least get behind the
24:46
Speaker 1: van and run into the forest before he's gonna catch us.
24:49
Speaker 1: And so instinctively, he takes off running after them, and
24:51
Speaker 1: he chases them for about thirty seconds into the tree
24:54
Speaker 1: line before he starts hearing gunshots and they weren't his
24:56
Speaker 1: Someone's shooting at him and he sees the muscle flash
24:59
Speaker 1: out in the middle of the floor and he's like, yeah,
25:00
Speaker 1: I'm not doing this. He turns around, runs back to
25:02
Speaker 1: his vehicle. He starts it up, and he has to
25:04
Speaker 1: basically smash into the van back into the fence, over
25:07
Speaker 1: and over again like Austin Powers, like a twenty five
25:10
Speaker 1: point turn before he was barely able to grind his
25:12
Speaker 1: way out and peel out out of this park. And
25:15
Speaker 1: so Derek pulls into the nearest gas station. He calls
25:17
Speaker 1: up dispatch and he says, hey, I just called nine
25:19
Speaker 1: one one like five ten minutes ago, and I dropped
25:22
Speaker 1: the call because I was chasing somebody. Here's my name,
25:24
Speaker 1: here's my badge number. I'm now at this gas station.
25:27
Speaker 1: Can you send a couple of police officers over to
25:29
Speaker 1: my location now? And they said, yep, we'll send some
25:31
Speaker 1: to you. And so a police cruiser shows up with
25:33
Speaker 1: two officers inside that Derek recognized they were senior to him,
25:36
Speaker 1: and they got out and he explained again what happened,
25:38
Speaker 1: and they kind of gave him a hard time for
25:40
Speaker 1: getting catfish and it's very pro state, but at the
25:42
Speaker 1: same time they knew it could have gone really badly,
25:45
Speaker 1: and so they decide they're going to load up in
25:46
Speaker 1: the police cruiser together, all three of them, and drive
25:48
Speaker 1: back up to the park.
25:49
Speaker 2: And so they get up to the park and Derek
25:51
Speaker 2: points ahead and he goes, that's the van. It's still here.
25:53
Speaker 1: And so they drive up and they stop short of
25:55
Speaker 1: the van, and the two uniformed officers they turned to
25:57
Speaker 1: Derek and they're like, just staying here, we're gonna go
25:59
Speaker 1: check this.
26:00
Speaker 2: And so Derek sitting in the car watching these guys
26:02
Speaker 2: go up to the vehicle, you know, guns drawn.
26:04
Speaker 1: They're looking all around, they're clearing behind the vehicle, they're
26:07
Speaker 1: looking in the woodline.
26:08
Speaker 2: There's nobody there. And at some point he sees them
26:10
Speaker 2: put their pistols.
26:10
Speaker 1: Away and they go in the van. They're kind of
26:13
Speaker 1: shining with their flashlights all around. They're looking in the back,
26:15
Speaker 1: looking in the front. And then after a few minutes
26:18
Speaker 1: they walked back to the cruiser and as soon as
26:20
Speaker 1: they got in, Derek could tell there was just something
26:22
Speaker 1: off about how they were acting. When they were down
26:25
Speaker 1: at the gas station, they were kind of joking around
26:26
Speaker 1: with him.
26:27
Speaker 2: Now, whatever they had seen in the van was definitely
26:29
Speaker 2: not something they were going to joke about.
26:31
Speaker 1: And they turned to him and they're like, the back
26:33
Speaker 1: of the van, it was just knives and saws and
26:37
Speaker 1: pistols and rifles and lighter fluid and chains and handcuffs
26:41
Speaker 1: and duct tape.
26:43
Speaker 2: It was just awful and it looks like there might
26:45
Speaker 2: even be blood on the ground.
26:46
Speaker 1: The two officers immediately called in additional backup, and before
26:49
Speaker 1: long it was a full fledged circus around the span
26:52
Speaker 1: of a crime scene investigation unit and other police officers.
26:56
Speaker 1: Spotlights set up, and they went out looking in the
26:58
Speaker 1: woods for these people.
26:59
Speaker 2: But they never found the guy.
27:00
Speaker 1: They never found the girl, and Derek would tell the
27:03
Speaker 1: other investigators, Hey, she works at this hair salon, like
27:05
Speaker 1: right down the road. I picked her up there, And
27:07
Speaker 1: so they went over to the hair salon and they
27:09
Speaker 1: wound up talking to the people there and they said,
27:11
Speaker 1: we'd never heard of Leah, And when they showed them
27:13
Speaker 1: a picture of Leah, they were like, we've never seen
27:16
Speaker 1: her before. And so they came back, and they told Derek, look,
27:18
Speaker 1: she's a con artist, and this whole thing, your whole
27:21
Speaker 1: relationship with her has been her setting you up in
27:23
Speaker 1: some way, shape or form, the entire thing.
27:25
Speaker 2: That's all it ever was.
27:27
Speaker 1: And so for Derek that was crushing, and he swore
27:29
Speaker 1: off Tender immediately. He did not want to do any
27:31
Speaker 1: more online dating. But what really haunts him more than
27:34
Speaker 1: just being taken advantage of is what would have happened
27:37
Speaker 1: if I.
27:38
Speaker 2: Wasn't concealed carrying? Would I have wound up in the
27:40
Speaker 2: back of that van?
27:53
Speaker 1: Simply put a goth as someone who finds beauty in
27:56
Speaker 1: things that most other people consider to be pretty dark.
27:59
Speaker 1: Most Americans tend to associate the term goth with the
28:03
Speaker 1: teenagers of the late nineties and early two thousands that
28:06
Speaker 1: wore all black and wore heavy black boots and would
28:09
Speaker 1: hang out in cemeteries, and while that representation of goth
28:13
Speaker 1: culture is of course limited, it is a good representation
28:17
Speaker 1: of the two protagonists in today's story, best friends Rachel
28:21
Speaker 1: and Molly. In the nineteen nineties, Rachel and Molly were
28:24
Speaker 1: full blown goths. They had black hair, black makeup, black clothes,
28:28
Speaker 1: They had the black, heavy combat boots, and at one
28:31
Speaker 1: point they and their other goth friends started hanging out
28:34
Speaker 1: in a cemetery to be kind of ironic and funny,
28:36
Speaker 1: like look at us, where goth we hang out in cemeteries,
28:39
Speaker 1: And then they actually enjoyed it and began hanging out
28:41
Speaker 1: in the cemetery like every weekend. One Friday night, Molly
28:44
Speaker 1: calls Rachel to go hang out in the cemetery, and
28:47
Speaker 1: as it happened, Rachel was just sitting at home and
28:49
Speaker 1: she was bored out of her mind, and so the
28:51
Speaker 1: call came at a perfect.
28:52
Speaker 2: Time, and so Rachel's like, yeah, I'd love to go.
28:54
Speaker 1: So she flies downstairs and she sits on a front
28:56
Speaker 1: step and she's waiting for Molly to show up. And
28:59
Speaker 1: eventually Molly's rolls down the street and Rachel immediately recognizes that.
29:03
Speaker 2: Molly is the only one in the car.
29:06
Speaker 1: And Rachel whenever she would go to the cemetery at
29:08
Speaker 1: night with Mollie, they were always there with a group
29:10
Speaker 1: of at least four people. Even though they liked hanging
29:13
Speaker 1: out in the cemetery, they did recognize that it was
29:16
Speaker 1: a little bit creepy at night to be out there,
29:18
Speaker 1: and so they liked kind of rolling in a fairly
29:20
Speaker 1: big group, and so Rachel hops in the car and
29:23
Speaker 1: her first question of Mollie is.
29:24
Speaker 2: Where is everybody meeting us there?
29:27
Speaker 1: And Molly said, oh, no, everybody else is either working
29:29
Speaker 1: or they're kind of hung over from the party.
29:31
Speaker 2: From last night. So it's just us too. I hope
29:33
Speaker 2: that's okay.
29:34
Speaker 1: And at the time Rachel actually in her head was like, no,
29:37
Speaker 1: I don't really want to do this anymore, but she
29:39
Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah, that's fine.
29:41
Speaker 2: We'll go just the two of us. It'll be fine.
29:43
Speaker 1: Molly takes off from Rachel's house and she makes the
29:45
Speaker 1: familiar kind of winding commute to the front gate of
29:48
Speaker 1: this enormous cemetery that sits right in the center of town.
29:52
Speaker 1: They drive underneath this massive wrought iron gate that looks
29:55
Speaker 1: very medieval, very foreboding. It looks like it's out of
29:58
Speaker 1: a cheesy horror movie like cliche entrance to a cemetery.
30:02
Speaker 1: And so they go through there, and they're on this
30:04
Speaker 1: road that stretches all the way down through the cemetery
30:07
Speaker 1: and basically splits it in two.
30:09
Speaker 2: On the left side.
30:10
Speaker 1: As you're driving in was an area closest to town
30:13
Speaker 1: and also it butted up against a major public university,
30:17
Speaker 1: and then on this side of the cemetery you had
30:19
Speaker 1: a bunch of residential houses that butted up against the
30:22
Speaker 1: side of the cemetery. And where Molly and Rachel and
30:25
Speaker 1: their crew liked to go was on the right side,
30:27
Speaker 1: all the way back in the corner, because there was
30:29
Speaker 1: a section that was kind of situated between these two
30:32
Speaker 1: hills where not only were they obscured from the cemetery
30:36
Speaker 1: road and the main road once they were down in
30:38
Speaker 1: this little depression, there was also no houses that happened
30:41
Speaker 1: to look over that spot, so it was kind of
30:43
Speaker 1: like the hidden section of the cemetery.
30:46
Speaker 2: And there was also this big boulder that people sat
30:48
Speaker 2: on and a big tree you could lean up against.
30:51
Speaker 2: So that was their spot.
30:52
Speaker 1: So Molly drives in the gates, she heads down that
30:54
Speaker 1: road and she turns right onto a dead end road.
30:57
Speaker 1: She takes that down about a couple hundred meters till
30:59
Speaker 1: at dead and they park and then the girls get
31:02
Speaker 1: out of the car. They light up cigarettes, and they
31:04
Speaker 1: walk down this hill that's just beyond where this dead
31:07
Speaker 1: end comes to an end. And so they walk down
31:10
Speaker 1: this hill and it brings them to this clearing where
31:12
Speaker 1: this big.
31:13
Speaker 2: Rock and tree is.
31:14
Speaker 1: Rachel hops up on the rock and she turns around
31:16
Speaker 1: so she's facing back up the hill. They just walk
31:19
Speaker 1: down and Mollie is right next to her on her right,
31:22
Speaker 1: leaning up against the tree, and for the next hour
31:24
Speaker 1: or so they just crush cigarettes and talked about their
31:27
Speaker 1: various boyfriend drama and life drama and whatever.
31:30
Speaker 2: Else they wanted to talk about.
31:31
Speaker 1: After a while, the girls started to smell a bonfire,
31:34
Speaker 1: and from where they were sitting, they could see a
31:36
Speaker 1: hill in front of them, and there was actually another
31:38
Speaker 1: hill over here, and so their views pretty obscured out
31:42
Speaker 1: of this little valley they're in, so they can't see
31:44
Speaker 1: any fires anywhere, and so they assumed that what they're
31:47
Speaker 1: smelling was a fire coming from the other side of
31:50
Speaker 1: the cemetery because there's that huge university over there, and
31:53
Speaker 1: they knew sometimes the college kids would come on to
31:56
Speaker 1: the cemetery and they would light fires over there, and
31:58
Speaker 1: inevitably the police would get called and they would break
32:01
Speaker 1: up the fire because you're not allowed to have a
32:03
Speaker 1: fire on the cemetery, and whenever they did that, the
32:05
Speaker 1: police would actually make rounds around the entire cemetery and historically,
32:10
Speaker 1: basically if you were there hanging out, they would.
32:12
Speaker 2: Tell you to leave.
32:12
Speaker 1: And so they think, Okay, this is probably a good
32:14
Speaker 1: time to leave, because probably in the next thirty minutes
32:17
Speaker 1: to an hour, the police are gonna be here. They're
32:19
Speaker 1: gonna come over here see our car, and they're gonna
32:21
Speaker 1: ask what we're doing, and we're gonna have to leave.
32:23
Speaker 1: So let's just leave now. So Rachel hops off the
32:26
Speaker 1: rock and the two of them begin meandering their way
32:28
Speaker 1: back up the hill towards the car. When they get
32:31
Speaker 1: about halfway up the hill, they notice to the right
32:33
Speaker 1: something bright. Now, because they were higher up, they could
32:36
Speaker 1: actually see over the hill to their right, and what
32:39
Speaker 1: they were seeing was the top of a bonfire. So
32:42
Speaker 1: the girls take a couple more steps up the hill
32:44
Speaker 1: to gain some elevation to hopefully be able to see
32:47
Speaker 1: better down into where this fire is. But even when
32:50
Speaker 1: they're up almost at the top of the hill, that
32:53
Speaker 1: fire is too far down on the other side of
32:55
Speaker 1: that hill that they can't see any people, and they
32:58
Speaker 1: can't really tell how big the fire. They're just basically
33:01
Speaker 1: seeing the top flickers of it. Even though they don't
33:03
Speaker 1: know anything about the people over there at the spire.
33:05
Speaker 1: What they do know is when they showed up there
33:08
Speaker 1: was no fire over there, they would have recognized it.
33:10
Speaker 1: So whoever's over there had to have shown up and
33:13
Speaker 1: built the spire while Rachel and Molly were down at
33:16
Speaker 1: the rock and tree, which means there's a pretty good
33:18
Speaker 1: chance they didn't see Rachel and Molly. This is a
33:21
Speaker 1: pretty private area. Their car was parked a little bit
33:24
Speaker 1: off to the side of the trail, and so Molly
33:26
Speaker 1: picks up on this and she says to Rachel, Hey,
33:28
Speaker 1: let's sneak back down and walk up their hill and
33:31
Speaker 1: look down and see who's here.
33:32
Speaker 2: I bet it's a bunch of college kids. It'll be
33:34
Speaker 2: funny to see what they're doing. But Rachel had a
33:36
Speaker 2: weird feeling about it.
33:37
Speaker 1: She's thinking to herself, if this is college kids, why
33:40
Speaker 1: would they have their bonfire this far away from campus.
33:43
Speaker 1: I mean, this is literally the farthest point away from
33:47
Speaker 1: the side of the cemetery that's close to their campus.
33:49
Speaker 1: If they're having a party over here, there's a good
33:52
Speaker 1: chance that anybody going to it is going to need
33:54
Speaker 1: to drive, and that just doesn't make sense. If you
33:56
Speaker 1: can just walk to the other side of the campus
33:58
Speaker 1: and have a bonfire over there, And so Rachel is
34:02
Speaker 1: logically deducing that this is probably not college kids, but
34:06
Speaker 1: who else is having a bonfire in the secret section
34:09
Speaker 1: of the cemetery in the middle of the night. And
34:11
Speaker 1: Rachel's thinking that now, if the police come here, they're
34:15
Speaker 1: definitely going to see us because we're so close to
34:17
Speaker 1: this bonfire, and so it's probably not.
34:19
Speaker 2: A good idea to stick around much longer.
34:21
Speaker 1: But despite Rachel's hesitations, she is intrigued and she does
34:24
Speaker 1: want to see what's going on over there.
34:26
Speaker 2: So the two girls walk down the hill. They make
34:28
Speaker 2: it down to the rock and the tree.
34:30
Speaker 1: Then they turn left and they begin walking up to
34:32
Speaker 1: this other hill, the hill that's going to bring them
34:34
Speaker 1: up to this fire. And so they only get a
34:36
Speaker 1: few steps up this hill when they are suddenly hit
34:39
Speaker 1: with this disgusting, putrid smell that just encompasses them and
34:43
Speaker 1: it makes them gag and they're covering their mouth and
34:46
Speaker 1: their nose, and Rachel.
34:47
Speaker 2: Exclaims, oh my god, what is that? And then as
34:50
Speaker 2: soon as she says it, she realizes she.
34:52
Speaker 1: Was really loud, and she's like, and Mollie's like, and
34:57
Speaker 1: they both freeze, wondering if the people on the other
34:59
Speaker 1: side of the hill have heard them, And after a
35:02
Speaker 1: little bit of silence, Mollie's like, you wanna keep going,
35:07
Speaker 1: and Rachel's like, no, we got to go between the
35:10
Speaker 1: horrible smell that's obviously coming from this weird fire and
35:14
Speaker 1: the fact that Rachel basically just gave them away, and so,
35:17
Speaker 1: for all we know, these people on the other side
35:18
Speaker 1: of this hill have hurt us, and now they're waiting
35:21
Speaker 1: for us to come over the edge, and it's gonna
35:23
Speaker 1: be really awkward if we suddenly crash their bonfire.
35:26
Speaker 2: Rachel, she's thinking about these things, and so she's like,
35:28
Speaker 2: let's go, we gotta go.
35:29
Speaker 1: Molly's disappointed, but she gets it, and the two girls
35:32
Speaker 1: turn around and begin walking back, And so they walk
35:35
Speaker 1: past the tree and the rock on their left, they
35:37
Speaker 1: turn right and they're about to walk up the hill
35:39
Speaker 1: that's going to bring them to their car when Rachel
35:42
Speaker 1: just turns around to look at the hill towards the
35:45
Speaker 1: fire where they were headed before, and standing at the
35:47
Speaker 1: top of that hill is a man just looking down
35:50
Speaker 1: at them, and the fire is illuminating him from behind,
35:53
Speaker 1: and they can clearly tell it's a man standing there
35:55
Speaker 1: looking at them, and immediately the girls felt really uncomfortable.
35:59
Speaker 1: It was almost like they had just been caught spying.
36:01
Speaker 1: Even though they didn't actually get caught spying, it was
36:04
Speaker 1: what they were gonna go do, and so they felt
36:06
Speaker 1: like they had almost been caught red handed. And so
36:09
Speaker 1: Molly and Rachel just turn and begin walking up the hill,
36:12
Speaker 1: kind of with their heads down. They just felt kind
36:14
Speaker 1: of awkward, and so they move a few more steps
36:16
Speaker 1: up this hill and Rachel looks again at where this
36:19
Speaker 1: guy was standing and he's now gone, and Rachel's relieved,
36:22
Speaker 1: but then she realizes he's gone because he's walking power
36:26
Speaker 1: walking down the hill towards them, and Rachel gasps and
36:30
Speaker 1: she grabs Molly and pushes her and says, go go, go,
36:33
Speaker 1: go go, and they start running up the hill and
36:35
Speaker 1: Rachel looks around and now this guy is running towards them.
36:38
Speaker 1: He's down now at the rock and the tree. He's
36:40
Speaker 1: gaining on them. They sprint up over the top. They
36:43
Speaker 1: run to Molly's car, and Molly's fumbling with her keys
36:46
Speaker 1: to get the car open, and Rachel's yelling.
36:48
Speaker 2: Hurry up, hurry up, hurry up.
36:49
Speaker 1: Finally she gets it open and they both jump inside.
36:52
Speaker 1: Rachel locks the car doors, and as Mollie is turning
36:55
Speaker 1: the key over, Rachel's looking out the back and she's
36:57
Speaker 1: waiting to see this guy, And sure enough, as they
37:00
Speaker 1: she sees his head come up over the ridge line
37:03
Speaker 1: just enough that he can clearly see them leaving, and
37:05
Speaker 1: then he ducks back down and he disappears, and the
37:07
Speaker 1: two of them speed down the road. They make a
37:09
Speaker 1: left onto that main drive and they speed out of
37:11
Speaker 1: the cemetery. For the first few minutes of their drive,
37:14
Speaker 1: neither of them say anything. This was just a very
37:16
Speaker 1: traumatic experience, and it was also very confusing because they
37:20
Speaker 1: thought they were going over to spy on college kids
37:24
Speaker 1: having a bonfire, and then they're hit with that.
37:26
Speaker 2: Horrible smell, Like what was that horrible smell?
37:29
Speaker 1: And then they leave and there's this guy who did
37:32
Speaker 1: not look like he was a college kid. He looked
37:34
Speaker 1: like he was probably in his forties, and then he's
37:36
Speaker 1: chasing them.
37:38
Speaker 2: You know what was that?
37:39
Speaker 1: And when they did start talking about it, they couldn't
37:41
Speaker 1: really come to any sort of rational conclusion of what
37:43
Speaker 1: had just happened, and so they were both very spooked,
37:46
Speaker 1: and they decide let's just go home.
37:48
Speaker 2: And talk about this tomorrow.
37:50
Speaker 1: And so Molly drops Rachel off at her house and
37:52
Speaker 1: Molly goes home and both girls go to bed. The
37:54
Speaker 1: next morning, Rachel gets up and she heads down to
37:56
Speaker 1: the kitchen where her mom is already there having her
37:59
Speaker 1: morning coffee. And Rachel sits down, and you know, she's
38:01
Speaker 1: not a big talker. She's not about to start by saying, hey,
38:04
Speaker 1: guess what happened to me last night at the cemetery. Instead,
38:07
Speaker 1: she just sits there and for a little bit, her
38:09
Speaker 1: mom just kind of rambles about work and what she's
38:12
Speaker 1: doing that day, and then all of a sudden, her
38:14
Speaker 1: mom it's like she has this epiphany and she goes Rachel, Rachel,
38:18
Speaker 1: did you hear what happened last night? And Rachel's like, no, what?
38:20
Speaker 1: And her mom's like someone I work with. I don't
38:23
Speaker 1: know her personally, but she works in the same building
38:25
Speaker 1: as me. She got kidnapped from the parking garage where
38:28
Speaker 1: I parked my car. I have seen her park her
38:31
Speaker 1: car in this lot and she got kidnapped. And Rachel's like,
38:34
Speaker 1: oh my god, really, like what happened to her? Did
38:37
Speaker 1: they find her? And her mom was like yeah, but
38:39
Speaker 1: it was too late. The person who had kidnapped her
38:42
Speaker 1: had killed her and then tried to dispose of her
38:44
Speaker 1: body at the cemetery by burning her in a bonfire.
38:47
Speaker 1: Rachel suddenly felt sick because now she knew what was
38:50
Speaker 1: happening last night, and she knows what that smell was.
38:53
Speaker 1: Rachel immediately pours her heart out about everything that happened
38:57
Speaker 1: the night before, and her mom is totally horrified, but
39:00
Speaker 1: she's in particular horrified that they clearly had been there
39:05
Speaker 1: when the killer had arrived and set up shop and
39:07
Speaker 1: began burning this body. They were just literally fifty meters
39:11
Speaker 1: away the whole time. And so her mom tells her,
39:14
Speaker 1: you and Molly have to go to the police station
39:17
Speaker 1: and make a statement.
39:17
Speaker 2: They have not caught this person yet. You've seen this person.
39:20
Speaker 2: You got to tell them.
39:21
Speaker 1: And so Rachel calls Molly and breaks the news about
39:24
Speaker 1: what was actually happening the night before and who was
39:27
Speaker 1: actually chasing them to their car, and says, we have
39:30
Speaker 1: to go to the police station, and so they agreed.
39:32
Speaker 1: They go down to the police station and they tell
39:34
Speaker 1: them what happened, but they didn't get a great look
39:36
Speaker 1: at him. They could only say that he was maybe
39:38
Speaker 1: in his forties and maybe average height, and so the
39:41
Speaker 1: police wrote it all down, but they basically said, look,
39:43
Speaker 1: if you can think up more details, we would love
39:45
Speaker 1: to hear those, because this isn't really enough to go on.
39:47
Speaker 1: And so the girls go back home and they're thinking
39:49
Speaker 1: to themselves, did he see us? Does he know that
39:52
Speaker 1: we saw him? Do you think he knows that we know?
39:54
Speaker 1: He's a killer now? And so they're freaking out. But luckily,
39:57
Speaker 1: within forty eight hours the police actually caught this guy
40:00
Speaker 1: because he was driving around in the murder victim's car
40:03
Speaker 1: and someone spot at him. They pulled him over and
40:06
Speaker 1: he confessed, and so he went to jail. Needless to say,
40:08
Speaker 1: Rachel and Molly thanked their lucky stars that when they
40:11
Speaker 1: started ascending that hill and they were hit with that
40:14
Speaker 1: smell that Rachel said, let's not go any farther, let's leave,
40:18
Speaker 1: because had they continued and gone to the other side,
40:22
Speaker 1: they could have wound up in the bonfire too. The
40:39
Speaker 1: following stories all take place in the Twin Cities in Minnesota.
40:42
Speaker 1: On New Year's Eve nineteen eighty, twenty year old Karen
40:45
Speaker 1: Potac was out at a bar with her friends celebrating,
40:48
Speaker 1: and at some point in the night she slipped out.
40:50
Speaker 1: She didn't want to stay any later, and she began
40:52
Speaker 1: walking home. Now, she didn't have a jacket on, and
40:54
Speaker 1: it was very cold outside, and she's kind of stumbling
40:57
Speaker 1: through the streets and a man sees her and pulls
40:59
Speaker 1: over her and offers to give her a ride home.
41:02
Speaker 1: She's kind of intoxicated, and so she agrees to get
41:04
Speaker 1: in this car and they drive off.
41:06
Speaker 2: A couple hours.
41:07
Speaker 1: Later, around three am, the police received this phone call.
41:11
Speaker 3: Please the emergency police on a squat Manberg and machanshop.
41:19
Speaker 4: Please can you tell me what happened to the what's
41:30
Speaker 4: thet Who.
41:33
Speaker 2: Are you using? This information from the caller?
41:36
Speaker 1: The police arrived in the back of that building and
41:38
Speaker 1: they find Karen Potak. She had been repeatedly bludgeoned over
41:42
Speaker 1: the head with a tire iron and then left for dead. Miraculously,
41:45
Speaker 1: she would survive, but because of her head injury, she
41:48
Speaker 1: forgot almost everything about that night, including the description of
41:51
Speaker 1: the guy who picked her up and who probably attacked her,
41:54
Speaker 1: and who probably was the one who called police. So
41:57
Speaker 1: the police try to interview some people in the area
41:59
Speaker 1: around where she was found but it was a really
42:01
Speaker 1: deserted area and no one knew anything and there was
42:04
Speaker 1: no physical evidence left at the scene, so the case
42:08
Speaker 1: went cold. Then five months later, the police received another
42:11
Speaker 1: phone call.
42:12
Speaker 3: Oh we finally I just got somebody with a nut
42:17
Speaker 3: stuff myself I got.
42:20
Speaker 1: At this point, the police were not connecting this call
42:23
Speaker 1: with the call that immediately preceded.
42:25
Speaker 2: Finding Karen Potek, meaning they did not think that was
42:28
Speaker 2: the same person.
42:29
Speaker 1: And since in this call there were no instructions on
42:31
Speaker 1: where to find this person, they didn't really have anything
42:34
Speaker 1: to go on, so they took note of it, but
42:36
Speaker 1: ultimately kind of disregarded it.
42:37
Speaker 2: But just a few.
42:38
Speaker 1: Hours later, a group of teenagers were walking through the
42:41
Speaker 1: forest when they found a dead body. The body belonged
42:43
Speaker 1: to eighteen year old Kimberly Compton, who had literally just
42:47
Speaker 1: moved to Minnesota. She graduated high school and decided she
42:51
Speaker 1: wanted to start fresh in Minnesota. She hopped in a
42:54
Speaker 1: bus she goes to Minnesota. She gets off the bus,
42:56
Speaker 1: she goes into the first restaurant she sees, which is
42:58
Speaker 1: a diner. She sits down by herself. She's eating some
43:01
Speaker 1: food and a man approaches her and says, hey, can
43:03
Speaker 1: I sit down with you? So she lets him sit
43:05
Speaker 1: down and he asks, you know, who are you? What
43:06
Speaker 1: are you doing here? And she says, oh, you know,
43:08
Speaker 1: I just moved here. And this guy offers to drive
43:11
Speaker 1: her around town and show her.
43:12
Speaker 2: The sights and she's like great. Fifteen minutes later, he
43:15
Speaker 2: would kill her with an ice pick.
43:16
Speaker 1: At this point, police are beginning to suspect that this
43:19
Speaker 1: person who keeps calling them immediately before they're finding women
43:23
Speaker 1: that have been attacked might be the same person, and
43:26
Speaker 1: two days after Compton was killed, they get another call
43:29
Speaker 1: that confirms.
43:29
Speaker 2: This don't talk.
43:31
Speaker 3: Just I sory what I did. I couldn't help, but
43:38
Speaker 3: I don't know why. I can't get I can't believe that.
43:52
Speaker 3: I can't think.
43:54
Speaker 1: If I locked up, I'll kill myself, I'll.
44:00
Speaker 3: Anybody else.
44:02
Speaker 1: From this point forward, they referred to this caller as
44:04
Speaker 1: the weepy voiced killer, and even though they had his
44:07
Speaker 1: voice recorded, they didn't have any physical evidence because he
44:10
Speaker 1: didn't leave any of the scene with Compton either, so
44:12
Speaker 1: they didn't have much to go on. The police would
44:14
Speaker 1: go to the diner and they would talk to the
44:16
Speaker 1: staff that was there and they would give a general
44:18
Speaker 1: description of the Weepy Voice killer, but it wasn't enough
44:21
Speaker 1: to pinpoint a suspect, so once again, this case went cold.
44:24
Speaker 1: To six months later, the police received yet another call, I'm.
44:31
Speaker 2: Sorry, killer Compton.
44:37
Speaker 1: A day later, they find the body of forty year
44:55
Speaker 1: old Barbara Simon's floating in the Mississippi River, tucked up
44:58
Speaker 1: against the brush. The night before, Barbara had been out
45:01
Speaker 1: at a bar and she'd offered a cigarette.
45:03
Speaker 2: To a man she hadn't met before. They began flirting
45:05
Speaker 2: and kind of hit it off, and.
45:07
Speaker 1: At one point they were going to leave together, and
45:09
Speaker 1: before they left, Barbara turns to one of the waitresses
45:12
Speaker 1: and kind of jokingly says, boy, I hope he's nice,
45:14
Speaker 1: because I'm leaving with him, And the waitress, for whatever reason,
45:17
Speaker 1: had a really bad feeling about it and made a
45:19
Speaker 1: point of getting.
45:20
Speaker 2: A really good look at the man she was leaving with.
45:23
Speaker 1: And that man, of course, would turn out to be
45:25
Speaker 1: the Weepe Boys killer, and as soon as he and
45:27
Speaker 1: Barbara left the bar, he would stab her to death
45:30
Speaker 1: and throw her in the Mississippi River. After the police
45:32
Speaker 1: began investigating this, that came to the bar and they
45:35
Speaker 1: interviewed that waitress and she said, I got a really
45:37
Speaker 1: good look at this guy. And so the police show
45:39
Speaker 1: her one hundred different mugshots of previously convicted felons in
45:43
Speaker 1: the area, and she immediately identifies thirty eight year old
45:47
Speaker 1: Paul Stefani and says that's the guy. Paul had been
45:49
Speaker 1: convicted for aggravated assault and he also had a history
45:52
Speaker 1: of mental illness. Paul is immediately put under surveillance, but
45:55
Speaker 1: within twenty four hours, he manages to ditch his tail
45:58
Speaker 1: and goes straight into downtown Minneapolis, where he picks up
46:01
Speaker 1: nineteen year old street.
46:02
Speaker 2: Worker Denise Williams. Paul took her.
46:04
Speaker 1: Down a dark alleyway and she kind of sensed something
46:06
Speaker 1: was wrong, and so she grabbed a glass bottle that
46:09
Speaker 1: was sitting on the floor of the car, and when
46:11
Speaker 1: he went to attack her, she managed to hit him
46:12
Speaker 1: in the head and cut his face really, really badly,
46:16
Speaker 1: and she managed to protect herself enough that she could
46:18
Speaker 1: get out of the car and run away and save
46:20
Speaker 1: her own life. And a neighbor saw her running out
46:22
Speaker 1: of the car and kind of saw the whole exchange
46:24
Speaker 1: didn't like how it looked, so they called nine one one.
46:27
Speaker 1: When police showed up, Paul was long gone. That same night,
46:30
Speaker 1: police get another call from the Weepy Voice Killer. This
46:33
Speaker 1: one's a little bit different.
46:34
Speaker 2: He's actually asking for help for himself. Where fire, Oh,
46:40
Speaker 2: fire one?
46:41
Speaker 3: Five?
46:42
Speaker 2: Five?
46:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, West, Master.
46:44
Speaker 4: What's the problem?
46:46
Speaker 3: I'm all cut up? Get up?
46:49
Speaker 4: What's your apartment number?
46:50
Speaker 1: I went, oh, wait, where are you?
46:53
Speaker 3: Waiting from the arm my.
46:57
Speaker 1: Now, by the time this call is being made, the
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Speaker 1: audio recordings of his previous phone calls had been made public.
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Speaker 2: They were aired on radio shows on TV. People had
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Speaker 2: heard his.
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Speaker 1: Voice and it's fairly distinctive, and the dispatcher recognized his
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Speaker 1: voice and told police there's a chance the Weepy Voice
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Speaker 1: killer just called us. So an ambulance comes and picks
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Speaker 1: up Paul Stefani and brings him to the hospital, and
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Speaker 1: when he's sitting in his hospital bed, police walk.
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Speaker 2: In and they apprehend him.
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Speaker 1: He pled not guilty, and prosecutors did not actually have
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Speaker 1: that much evidence connecting.
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Speaker 2: Him to each of these attacks.
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Speaker 1: They had these audio recordings, but that was about it,
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Speaker 1: and so ultimately he got fifty eight years in prison,
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Speaker 1: not a life sentence, but considering his age, it wound
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Speaker 1: up functioning like a life sentence. Twelve years into that sentence,
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Speaker 1: he was diagnosed with terminal cancer and was told he
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Speaker 1: only had a year to live. And so it was
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Speaker 1: at this point that he confessed to all of the attacks,
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Speaker 1: including one they didn't know about.
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Speaker 2: He murdered thirty three year.
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Speaker 1: Old Kathleen Greening in her own home. He just didn't
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Speaker 1: make a phone call to police afterwards. Paul would die
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Speaker 1: shortly after his confessions.
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