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Seahawks are CRUSHING Hard Knocks + Kevin O'Connell on Vikings QB Battle · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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  Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on everybody? How are we doing?
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  Speaker 1: John Middlecoff three and out podcast. Hopefully everyone is doing well. Today.
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  Speaker 1: Is gonna be more fugazi Friday, because there's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: no podcast on Friday, even though it's Thursday. Obviously, the preseason,
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  Speaker 1: the games, I mean, are they just a big fugazi?
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  Speaker 1: According to Rodgers, they kind of are. And Sean McVay,
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  Speaker 1: I think part of that is the is the joint practice.
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  Speaker 1: But it's a couple of quick thoughts on hard knocks.
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  Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy, Kayler Murray. We'll talk a little preseason football
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  Speaker 1: and then we'll answer some questions so that there'll be
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  Speaker 1: no Friday show. I'm just traveling and just not gonna
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  Speaker 1: work out, so and I don't want to do a
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  Speaker 1: podcast not reacting some of the stuff that happens on
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  Speaker 1: Thursday night, which we got football. We got football on
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  Speaker 1: Thursday night, and I think Fernando Mendoza got the forty
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  Speaker 1: nine ers playing the Titans, so I saw I said
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  Speaker 1: that the starters are gonna play. So the bad teams
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  Speaker 1: Dolphins are like starters are playing. All the good teams
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  Speaker 1: are like nobody's dressing. So yeah, we'll talk some football
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  Speaker 1: today and then I'll be back on what day. I'll
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  Speaker 1: show too, because I've been chiming in there. So it's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of middle Cooff on that feed this week.
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  Speaker 1: But dive into some football. I do want to start
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  Speaker 1: with Hard Knocks because what I remember going on a
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  Speaker 1: rant a couple of years ago on this podcast, like
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  Speaker 1: I'm out it is no longer for me, Like the
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  Speaker 1: Hard Knocks is not for me, and that's Okay, not
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  Speaker 1: everything in the sports world is for me. I love golf,
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  Speaker 1: Netflix full Swing, like it kind of bored me after
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  Speaker 1: a year like that. There are some content within this
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  Speaker 1: space that I don't necessarily care about. It doesn't mean
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  Speaker 1: that it's not interesting to some of you. It doesn't
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  Speaker 1: mean that a lot of people haven't been watching this show.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think they would continue it just for shits
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  Speaker 1: and giggles, like it clearly draws eyeballs and is a
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  Speaker 1: big deal for the league, is a big deal for HBO,
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  Speaker 1: is a big deal for NFL films, and I respect
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  Speaker 1: the production of it, even if there are years where
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  Speaker 1: it's like I try to watch them like I don't
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  Speaker 1: care and it kind of hit me watching it. Two
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  Speaker 1: things really jumped out first and foremost on a sunny
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  Speaker 1: day in the Pacific Northwest. It their practice facility. I
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  Speaker 1: haven't been to every single one in the league, but
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  Speaker 1: there can't be a more beautiful setting than their practice
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  Speaker 1: fields that are on a lake with the redwoods behind it.
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  Speaker 1: And I understand, many many months it's dreary, cloudy, rainy,
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  Speaker 1: it can be ugly there, but during August, when the
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  Speaker 1: sun's out, fucking place looks like a Lake Tahoe or something.
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  Speaker 1: The forty nine ers practicing a data center, they're practicing
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  Speaker 1: on a lake. I mean, geez weeks, what a beautiful environment.
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  Speaker 1: And two, like part of the reason this works typically,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the rule used to be playoff teams could
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  Speaker 1: avoid it, teams with new coaches could avoid it. So
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  Speaker 1: it was just always shitty teams with a coach on
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  Speaker 1: the hot seat, and it was a lot of times
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  Speaker 1: like this is kind of boring, you know, if you
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  Speaker 1: think about the last handful of years, the Jets year
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  Speaker 1: was the only decent year, but a huge reason for
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  Speaker 1: that is they had just traded for Aaron Rodgers, so
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  Speaker 1: they hope they built the four episodes on the acquisition
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  Speaker 1: of this guy that had a couple of years previously
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  Speaker 1: had won back to back MVP. Is one of the
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  Speaker 1: greatest players in league history. If Aaron, if it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, and it was no shade of this guy,
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  Speaker 1: I respect him, but like Jacoby Brissett, you know, or
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  Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew or who just insert random quarterback X like
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  Speaker 1: that season would have sucked. And I think part of
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  Speaker 1: the reason that I've been so drawn to this is
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  Speaker 1: the NFL is a television show first and foremost, Right,
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  Speaker 1: this is entertainment, and it happens to be the number
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  Speaker 1: one television show currently in America. Of all the top
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  Speaker 1: onered one hundred and fifty broadcasts, like ninety plus percent
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  Speaker 1: of them are NFL games, right, And they're not all Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: Monday and Thursday night games. I mean we're talking just
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  Speaker 1: random games on Sunday. It's the number one television show
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  Speaker 1: currently in America. And in any television show, right, I
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  Speaker 1: think historically some of the biggest shows, they have stars,
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  Speaker 1: and those stars make the most money. And in the NFL,
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  Speaker 1: the biggest stars are the quarterbacks. And it's been that
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  Speaker 1: way my entire life, even before the NFL has gained
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  Speaker 1: in popularity to go to another stratosphere like it has
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  Speaker 1: in the last ten, fifteen to twenty years. Right, But
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  Speaker 1: when I was a kid, John Lway, Joe Montana to
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  Speaker 1: Dan Marino transitioned right into farv and young and it
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  Speaker 1: hasn't stopped since. Right, And Sam Darnold, we can argue
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  Speaker 1: where he ranks, but if you just go on base
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  Speaker 1: on the last two years and you're watching hard Knocks,
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  Speaker 1: you're going this fun guy's pretty good. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: it was a third pick randomly. He's a star in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL. And the other thing that football, and I've
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  Speaker 1: been saying this for a while, is like part of
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  Speaker 1: the reason I think there was so much equality in
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  Speaker 1: the popularity. Like when I was a kid in the
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  Speaker 1: nineties of baseball, basketball and football. Is a manager in baseball,
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  Speaker 1: a basketball coach in the NBA, and an NFL football coach,
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  Speaker 1: they were all really famous. Well, now most teams want
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  Speaker 1: to pay baseball managers like seven hundred grand that's what
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  Speaker 1: a running back coach makes. In the SEC. Basketball coaches
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  Speaker 1: like don't have the same juice. There aren't as many
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  Speaker 1: rip don Nelson's, pat Riley's, Phil Jackson's. It's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of random guys that unless you're a huge basketball fan,
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  Speaker 1: you've never even heard of. I'm watching the Thunder and
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  Speaker 1: the Spurs. You're having to google who their coaches are.
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  Speaker 1: Because the front office now runs the sport. Well, the
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  Speaker 1: front office during the games, which are the entertainment, you know,
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  Speaker 1: portion of the business, are in a suit in a
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  Speaker 1: suite or sitting in the stamps. And in football, the
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  Speaker 1: coaches make a ton of money, are huge stars. Talk
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  Speaker 1: to the media three to four days a week and
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  Speaker 1: are prominent figures, and we're pretty lucky right now. A
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  Speaker 1: large percentage of them are young hotshots, and Mike McDonald
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  Speaker 1: falls under that category. So you're watching a team that
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  Speaker 1: just won the Super Bowl, that has a star coach,
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  Speaker 1: a sending quarterback who we have a long history with, struggled,
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  Speaker 1: turned his career around, played at USC, So we've been
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  Speaker 1: hearing his name since he was nineteen twenty years old,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that has played a big, big role.
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  Speaker 1: And the other thing is there was a clip that
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  Speaker 1: went viral of Mike McDonald screaming at Derek Hall, who.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's a tough time just in training camp
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  Speaker 1: in general, but definitely the first couple of days when
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  Speaker 1: you're not in paths but you're trying to go like
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  Speaker 1: eighty ninety percent and the offensive and defensive linemen are
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  Speaker 1: kind of getting after it but kind of not really,
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  Speaker 1: and there's always a couple guys maybe going a little
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  Speaker 1: too hard and you get a little close to the
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  Speaker 1: quarterback and the coach gets pissed off and Mike lights
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  Speaker 1: him up. And I've been hearing forever. Helped since I
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  Speaker 1: as a kid. If you're older than me. Your generation
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  Speaker 1: heard it too, is this generation is soft, and it's
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  Speaker 1: part of it is social media. All you ever see
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  Speaker 1: is this new generation essentially is a bunch of pussies.
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  Speaker 1: They are the softest generation ever. And my take has
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  Speaker 1: always been every generation is different, and you can find soft,
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  Speaker 1: weak people in every single one. Now, you could argue
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  Speaker 1: there's maybe more now than ever. That's probably a product
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  Speaker 1: of there's never been a better time to live on
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  Speaker 1: this planet than literally currently. But I also think that ambitious,
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  Speaker 1: driven people are just not going to be and this
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  Speaker 1: is part of the culture of football, just like part
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  Speaker 1: of the culture of any of you guys, whatever industry
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  Speaker 1: you work on or work in and work with people
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  Speaker 1: that want to do things that are hard, that want
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  Speaker 1: to be successful, that have ambitions of continuing to go
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  Speaker 1: our type A personalities. People get screamed at, and you
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  Speaker 1: know what, not all of us like it. I've been
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  Speaker 1: screamed at. Many of you have been screamed at. It's
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  Speaker 1: not ideal at the time, but like it comes with
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  Speaker 1: the territory and you shake it off, and you know what,
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  Speaker 1: you're probably gonna get screamed at again, especially when you're
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  Speaker 1: young up and coming in certain businesses like not everyone
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  Speaker 1: just hold your hands and sings Kumbaya. That's not the
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  Speaker 1: real world. We don't live in a utopia. We live
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  Speaker 1: in a place that if you want to work with
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  Speaker 1: other alphas, it's probably gonna get contentious. Right. There's there's
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  Speaker 1: a famous quote that I learned early on in football,
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  Speaker 1: like there's no growth without confrontation. That's coach on coach,
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  Speaker 1: that's coach on player, that's player on player, that's player
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  Speaker 1: on coach. I mean, it goes every way. It's no
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  Speaker 1: different than you know, growing up with your parents, Like
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  Speaker 1: early on, they shouldn't be your friends, right, they're raising you. Right,
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  Speaker 1: as you get older than your relationship with them can change.
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  Speaker 1: No different than you know, a relationship as I see,
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  Speaker 1: like raising a child. Now, granted he's only seven months,
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  Speaker 1: but there's gonna come a day when I'm gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to say things that he's not gonna like when he's
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  Speaker 1: five years old, when he's eight years old, when he's
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  Speaker 1: twelve years old, And I hope I have to do
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  Speaker 1: that because that means he's pushing the limits, which I'm
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  Speaker 1: kind of rooting for him to do. And so far
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  Speaker 1: it looks like he's probably going to but I just
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  Speaker 1: see this on social media, this doom and gloom. Like
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  Speaker 1: the number one piece of advice I would give any
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  Speaker 1: young person right now is like, don't spend too much
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  Speaker 1: time on that that they want to make you seem
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  Speaker 1: like everything's about to fucking crumble. I mean, and if
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  Speaker 1: social media had been instead of around ten twenty years,
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  Speaker 1: had been around one hundred years, it would have been
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  Speaker 1: like this forever because that creates a motion that keeps
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  Speaker 1: people on the phone. And the number one thing you
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  Speaker 1: see a lot right now, or one of the top things,
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  Speaker 1: is so many different thoughts about this young generation, this
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  Speaker 1: young generations all over the NFL. I read an article
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  Speaker 1: today on Ben Johnson, who is just a nut job
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  Speaker 1: in a good way. Now, Listen, all football coaches are like,
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  Speaker 1: you can not coach football, high school, high level college,
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  Speaker 1: the NFL without just being nuts. I mean, it comes
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  Speaker 1: with the territory and you don't sleep much. Ben Johnson,
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  Speaker 1: according to his article, drinks six cups of coffee a
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  Speaker 1: day and a cold brew. Like God, this guy's right
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  Speaker 1: up my alley. I love just caffeine intake guy, but
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  Speaker 1: he's constantly screaming at people his coaches, he's getting on
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  Speaker 1: as players like, it's just a tense environment. That's football,
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  Speaker 1: that's finance. I have worked construction, that's farming. That's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of different businesses. And I just think that young
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  Speaker 1: people want to be pushed. People that want to achieve
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  Speaker 1: things want to kick in the ass the other. You know.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes it doesn't mean when you get it you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: have a huge smile on your face and say thanks
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  Speaker 1: for the constructive criticism or human beings. But I just
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  Speaker 1: I read this all the time, and I got to
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  Speaker 1: push back and say, yeah, maybe there's a larger percentage
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  Speaker 1: than ever that are quote unquote week that's welcome to
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  Speaker 1: the jungle. Those people typically get eaten in time, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and the strong will survive and the cream will rise
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  Speaker 1: at the top. Football is no different, you know, it
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  Speaker 1: really is. It's no different than why, you know, a
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  Speaker 1: six round pick within a couple of years is running
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  Speaker 1: circles around the second round pick. An undrafted free agent
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  Speaker 1: by the end of camp is above the third round
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  Speaker 1: pick in the depth chart. You know, this is this
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  Speaker 1: is a doggy dog world. Football is a dog eat
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  Speaker 1: dog sport. And these coaches, you know, it's like, well,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta be a little softer now with this generation.
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  Speaker 1: I'm watching hard knocks. Mike McDonald, who I thought was
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  Speaker 1: like a player's coach, is just fucking lightening up one
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  Speaker 1: of his craziest guys, lightening them up without hesitation, saying
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  Speaker 1: this is my fucking practice. Do you know what? It's
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  Speaker 1: reminded me of something like John Gruden would say, something
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  Speaker 1: like Belichick would say. Reading this article on Ben Johnson
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  Speaker 1: seems the exact same, you know, and that you can't
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  Speaker 1: go to a practice without seeing assistant coaches at countless positions,
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  Speaker 1: and I would include college too. Just writing guys. They're
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  Speaker 1: not writing guys just to be an a whole. They're
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  Speaker 1: writing guys to push them to be better. That's part
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  Speaker 1: of the business that they're in. And I think we all,
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  Speaker 1: most of us, maybe there are some that are so
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  Speaker 1: self driven, never make a mistake, or detail oriented, they
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  Speaker 1: need zero push. Hey, I need a kick in my
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  Speaker 1: ass every once in a while. I get it now
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  Speaker 1: for my wife, and I was like, sometimes she says,
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  Speaker 1: I'm to be kind of mad at that. I was
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  Speaker 1: thinking like, nah, she's right, she's not wrong, And I
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  Speaker 1: think it's extremely helpful. The other thing is the JJ
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  Speaker 1: McCarthy Kyler Murray. I saw this clip today. I guess
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  Speaker 1: there's I'm not I've seen clips. I've never listened to
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  Speaker 1: the podcast Tom Segura and his wife, the comedian, I
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: guess they got a divorce. They did a podcast together
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  Speaker 1: and he gave some things of like, you know this
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: news that came out, we had been dealing with it
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  Speaker 1: for months, and anyone that's ever broken up with somebody,
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  Speaker 1: anyone that's ever got a divorce, like the day so
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  Speaker 1: and so got a divorce wasn't the first time they
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: started thinking about it. Like the moment you serve someone
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  Speaker 1: with papers, isn't the day you're like, yeah, I'm ready
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  Speaker 1: for this to end. Right, The moment you dump or
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  Speaker 1: get dumped is not the moment that that thought crosses
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  Speaker 1: the other person mind. It's usually something that's been building up.
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  Speaker 1: So yesterday when JJ McCarthy it was told like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're not gonna be the starting quarterback. Do you think
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  Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell just came to that conclusion the day before
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  Speaker 1: or do you think he came to that conclusion as
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  Speaker 1: he sat on a beach and had some beers Over
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  Speaker 1: the course of the summer and realized, like I already
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  Speaker 1: knew where I was leaning, because isn't that the way
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  Speaker 1: most of us do things, Like we have a gut feel,
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  Speaker 1: we have an intuition, we have thoughts, and we lean
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  Speaker 1: a certain way. Now it doesn't mean we want more information.
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  Speaker 1: He was going to try to be open minded, but
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  Speaker 1: you cannot convince me that after what he had witnessed
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  Speaker 1: over the course of last year, which was an abomination
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  Speaker 1: over JJ McCarthy, that this wasn't like a guy that
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: had played seven games in college, multi year starter on
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  Speaker 1: a team with playing in front of crowds of one
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  Speaker 1: hundred thousand people, playing the biggest game of the year
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  Speaker 1: back to back years against Ohio State, multiple playoff games.
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  Speaker 1: I mean he played Alabama obviously, I guess who they played.
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  Speaker 1: They played national championship against Washington and Kaylin do bores
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  Speaker 1: now at Alabama? And I just think that some guys
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  Speaker 1: have it and some guys don't. We talked about it
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  Speaker 1: today on Collin Show, like development, I think we all improve.
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  Speaker 1: Like I come from cal Poly, which keep an eye
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  Speaker 1: out for that football program this year, and the motto
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  Speaker 1: of our school was learned by doing and as at
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  Speaker 1: the time when I was at college, I didn't even honestly,
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  Speaker 1: I probably didn't even understand what that truly meant. And
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: as you get older, you come to really appreciate that.
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  Speaker 1: And some people We all learn differently, right like in football,
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  Speaker 1: for example, some people need to w rep it on
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  Speaker 1: the field. Some guys can learn just through a walk through.
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  Speaker 1: Some guys can pick everything up just on a hard
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  Speaker 1: playbook or their iPad right or the film room. We
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: all consume information differently, like when something comes. If we
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: ordered a playpen recently, for Jack, it's no different than
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: a ordering a vacuum. Whatever we order to our house.
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  Speaker 1: If she's gonna put it together, she gets the hard
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  Speaker 1: copy of the directions. At this point in time in
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, if you hand me the directions, like
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  Speaker 1: of something that needs a little time to put together,
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  Speaker 1: it could be a dresser, it could be a vacuum,
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  Speaker 1: it could be the playpen, it would take me triple
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  Speaker 1: the time to put that thing together. The first thing
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  Speaker 1: I do in twenty twenty six is type in to
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  Speaker 1: YouTube construction of blank. And I'm a visual learner, and
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  Speaker 1: I just think that you look at this situation and
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  Speaker 1: he goes yeah, this guy's just not gonna be good enough.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we plan a division with Jared Goff, who
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  Speaker 1: has led the league in touchdowns and passing yards for
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  Speaker 1: the last four seasons, and it's just well established. It's
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  Speaker 1: just a consistent top eight quarterback in the NFL. Caleb Williams,
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  Speaker 1: who by the end of last year were all like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: if this guy could just get more consistent, reports are
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  Speaker 1: that he has could win the MVP, if not this
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  Speaker 1: year or within the next couple of years, like that's
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  Speaker 1: his ceiling. And Jordan Love, who just turned himself into
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  Speaker 1: a really solid quarterback. We got no fucking chance with
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  Speaker 1: the guy slinging it all over the air in the
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  Speaker 1: ground right now. Is Kyler the perfect quarterback? No? But
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: was he one of our best options this offseason? Clearly
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: to them he was. And this notion that he's getting
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: crushed because he once upon a time said that organizations
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: don't let down or quarterbacks don't let down organizations, organizations
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: let down quarterbacks. There's some truth to that with certain circumstances,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: But then there's like, did the forty nine ers let
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: down Trey lnser Kenny just not play? Did Shane Stiken
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: let down Anthey Richardson or turns out he just can't play.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Did Kevin O'Connell let down JJ McCarthy or it turned
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: out he just can't play. This is a very very
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: competitive environment. It's the cream of the crop. The majority
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: of the guys in the league right now, of the
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: ninety guys on every roster, most of them, you know,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: are not even gonna be in the league in a
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks, right or fringe in the league on
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: a practice squad. And then the guys that make the
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: fifty three on average. Maybe it's changed a little bit,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: but it's like play three and a half four years
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: in the league. Like the majority of the league is
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: not Jamar Chase, most of the league is not Trent Williams.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Like a lot of human beings in America are in business,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: most of them are not Bezos Si Rila. So it's
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: like we talk the most about like Joe Burrow, justin
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Herbert khalil Mack. Those guys are the outliers in their
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: own league. Most of the league are random guys that
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: you don't really know that much about, or just rotation
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: guys that will be replaced over the course of a
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: couple of years, like Saquon Barkley is an out player.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: You know, most guys are just some random rotational running
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: back that has to fight every single year for a spot.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: And it's very very competitive, and you know, we're dealing
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: I said this yesterday, We're dealing with human beings. It's
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: really really hard to judge, and some guys just get overwhelmed.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: The other thing is is when you have to make
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: huge mechanical changes, that's a pretty big red flag, especially
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: if you have to play like Aaron Rodgers is a
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: good example. When they drafted him out of Cow he
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: had the ball really high. It was kind of quirky looking,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: and McCarthy and their staff worked on it. But it
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: was a completely different era and because Brett Favre was
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: on the team, he got to just red shirt and
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: just work on his craft and practice constantly for three
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: years with no pressure. A lot of golfers they change
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: their swing and they do it constantly on the range,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: on the range, on the range, and then they try
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: to institute it into you know, a tournament, and typically
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: it takes them several tournaments, some like multiple months to
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: get a feel for it and feel comfortable with it.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: But if you just in the middle of the masters,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: try to change your swing on a Wednesday and then
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: play Thursday, good freaking luck. And last year they tried
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: to change his mechanics and then he had to start like,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: that's not gonna work. It's not, especially when the expectation
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: is to win, Like if your expectations are really high,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: which they were in Minnesota, it's it can you can
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: get overwhelmed and then I don't care who you are.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: You can be the confident or the most confident, cocky
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: human alive. If you lose your confidence and you're a
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: young human being who lacks experiences just because you can
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: only have so many in your early twenties, it's hard
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: to gain that back quickly, especially when you are told
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: to lead agree where a lot of guys are older
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: than you. You start questioning yourself. I don't care who
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: you are. We all have some insecurities, and for as
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: you get older, you realize some of them don't matter,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: some of you don't even think about, and you just roll.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: When you're young, it's easy to get a clouded head
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: overthink stuff and start questioning your own ability. Why because
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: how could you not You've never done it on that level.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen could have a bad game. Lamar Jackson can
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: have an awful game. It's much easier for them to
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: bounce back. Aaron Judge could strike out every at bat
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: for two weeks straight. It's easy for him to kind
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: of figure out a way to get it back. It's
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: much harder if you're making your big league debut and
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: for the course of the weekend your bat doesn't touch
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: the ball and all you do is strike out, pop out,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: ground out. Start thinking like I'm not gonna be good enough.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: It's human nature. So you can't convince me that Kevin
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: O'Connell just had this idea this week. This is something
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: that one was on his mind the moment they brought
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: in Kyler Murray and the moment they went to summer break.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: He had to have a pretty good idea. And veteran
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: players now have a lot of juice. Football used to
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: be the coach tells you what to do, kind of
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: like the general in the army, and you just fucking
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: do it. Whether you're an average player or a future
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, you do exactly what you're told. Those
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: days are kind of done. Like star players have a
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: lot of juice if justin Jefferson's telling the coach and
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying he did, but you'd be naive to
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: think that he didn't have some opinions like, hey, this,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: we can't play with this guy, and Kevin's probably I know,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: I know JJ trust me. I got this question. I
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: wanted to go into it, but this will kind of
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: lead into what I want to talk about. This is
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: from Robert You think preseason football gets too much hate.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: First off, it's the first live NFL football we get
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: on broadcast in months. Secondly, it gives us a chance
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: to see rookie quarterbacks and other players in their first
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: reps playing in the NFL, and diehard fans who love
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: the NFL draft and roster construction, you get to see
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: live competitions for roster spots play out in real time.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: It doesn't have the stakes of regular season, obviously, but
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: it has a lot of value in different ways. One,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: it's just great content to have on your TV in
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: the background. You know, if you're a Raider fan, when
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoz is playing, it's awesome, Or you know Carson
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: becks in there and you're Cardinal fan, or rookie players,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: rookie skill guys. It's really good. The second half can
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: be tough. But I wrote this down because you know,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: there are certain things in preseason games that are a
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: legitimate fugazi that when the preseason ends and you're a
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: fan of the Dallas Cowboys or the Minnesota Vikings or whoever,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: and you go, I just saw that guy in three
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: games ran for four hundred yards and they cut him.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: How's that possible? So I wrote down a couple of things,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: stuff that matters and stuff that doesn't matter when it
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: comes to these preseason games because you're going to see
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: it for the next three or four nights. I think
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: they are games on Sunday. There's definitely games Thursday, Friday
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: and Saturday. You can see my NFL network Guy Aberman
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: on the forty nine er call forty nine or Titans,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: which I heard cam Ward was a little not great
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: in the joint practice. But everything in preseason is context,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: especially now, a lot of these veteran guys don't play right.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: There's just no point. I think these joint practices have
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: kind of replaced the preseason. They didn't really exist when
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: I first got in the league. I don't remember them
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: happening at all twenty ten range. So before that, I
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: think it was maybe certain coaches that were like best friends.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: But they are just common. There's a common theme right
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: now in August. Whoever you're playing, in the first couple
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: of games, you liak up with their coach, whether you
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: know him or you don't, and you just practice against them.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: And I think they believe that they can get more
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: out of those and they also can utilize their starters
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: in those moments in more of a controlled environment against
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: another real team, and then they don't have to play
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: them in the regular or the preseason. And so that's
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: where I really think, because it's like, well, McVeigh set
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: the trend. Well, McVeigh does multiple joint practices a year.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: He just did joint practice with the Cowboys, so for
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: two days he runs out his starters against another team
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: and then those guys don't play. But it's not like, well,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: they just know they get a ton of reps against
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: another opponent. He just doesn't put him in the game situation.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: So you got to be very very careful. I was at, well,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: let's just start with what matters in a preseason game.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: This is not a fugazi. This is a non negotiable
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: for every team because most of these guys are either
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: trying to make their way onto the first team or
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: probably kind of make the team, like hold on to
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: their second Because if you're a backup, right there are
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: twenty two starters, well there's forty four guys if they're
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: twenty two right backups, which it's not really that simple,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: but let's just play an easy game of math. Then
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: you've got a couple of special teams guys right kicker,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: a punter, a long snapper, a couple other specialty guys
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: like specific kick returner, you know, maybe a couple designated
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: guys in each position, like this guy only rushes the
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: passer or this is you know, I maybe we just
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: keep more guys at a certain position, but you only
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: keep fitting your guys in the roster, and how many
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: guys are down come game day, like seven or eight,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: depending on like how you do with the emergency quarterback,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: so you don't have that many guys dressed on game day.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Which if you look at a college sideline, which we'll
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: start here in a couple of weeks, there's a million
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: fucking people, especially home games, like if you just look
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: at like a Penn State or Ohio State or Alabama
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: home game, their sideline is packed. If you get an
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: NFL sideline, ton of room. Ain't that many guys, especially
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: on the road, you probably you might not have taken
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: your practice squad guys. There's a lot of breathing room.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: And one thing that matters, and this matters at every
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: level of football, but specifically because every team. Here's how
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: the preseason works from a scouting perspective. Every team breaks
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: it up through their pro scouts. Some college scouts help
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: their GM, their assistant GM kind of their personnel staff
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: at the office, and every group takes or every individual takes,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: maybe five to eight teams, and for every guy that
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: was drafted in the fourth round through the seventh round,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: and then all the undrafted free agents on the team,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: and then maybe practice squad guys from the year before,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: and then veteran guys who are in danger of getting cut.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: You evaluate them through the preseason and really throughout the month.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: You are following them on the internet, on Twitter, on
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: the local newspapers and just keeping tabs of all the information.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: So then when the cuts happen, you've evaluated all the players.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Ideally like eighty to ninety percent of the guys gonna
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: get cut. Your personnel department has favorites at certain positions,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: your positions of need, you know, if you need a
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: corner and a guard. You kind of take that group
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: of all your evaluations and you hope some of your
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: highest graded guys hit the waiver wire and then you
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: try to try to land them right. And that's a
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: huge part of this process. But when you evaluate, like
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: if you want to make the team, if you want
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: to stand out, this sounds so remedial, but you'd be shocked.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Like play your ass off, play really really hard. And
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: the only way to play really really hard is like
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: you got to be in shape. But if you're not
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: in shape, you can't really play hard. But like doing
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: the little things get you noticed. You know, when you're
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: a backside end and they're running right and you're on
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: the left side, if you like, keep chasing the guy
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: down even if you don't make the tackles, Like god,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: this guy plays balls to the wall. If you're a
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: dB or linebacker and you come across the field even
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: if you don't make the tackle, but it's like this
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: guy never gives up. If you're a running back and
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: that you just your legs, never stop on contact, like
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: this guy runs fucking his ass off a wide receiver
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: just when it comes to blocking, like never lets go
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: and never stops his feet. Like those are the things
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: that jump out on tape. It's really true because production,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: and this is where it doesn't matter, is all in context.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: The first NFL game I ever attended was a preseason
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: game in my entire life was Jets Giants. I went
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: with Lewis Riddick. We went kind of on a I
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: guess scouting mission. You know, a lot during this time
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: of year, your scouts go and watch preseason games live.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: And this guy from UMass, undrafted free agent, had like
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: two hundred yards and three touchdowns. His name was Victor Cruz.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: I remember, he's making guys miss, he's running by guys.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: It was like, this is incredible, But just because you
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: produce does not mean it's good production. Like you could
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: have a forty yard touchdown run where the whole parts
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: like the red sea, the safety trips and no one
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: even touches you. And this guy just had a forty
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: yard touchdown run. And on paper it looks incredible, but
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: in actuality. It's nothing like you would see in a
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: game where there might be a run in the same
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: game where a guy gains like six yards, is hit
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: behind the line of scrimmage, stiff arms the linebacker, and
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: runs through a tackle. It's like, infinitely better run. I
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: remember a lot of times because you print out the
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: leading production guys during this time of year, and you
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: gotta be careful with sacks. It's like, hey, this guy's
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: got three sacks through two games, and then you watch them.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Two of them, no one touches them, and the other
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: one it's a guy that's gonna be selling insurance in
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: a week. Barely even touched him, and all three times
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: the quarterback got killed. And then there's another guy who
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: doesn't have a sack but is constantly pressuring the quarterback,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: is running through defensive lineman, is showing moves, is stunts,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: is like Ben in the edge is just is playing inside,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: is playing outside. It's much more versatile, So you gotta
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: be very, very careful because the level of competition. It's
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: easy to watch Fernando Mendoza handle Ohio State or Miami, like,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: how can he handle the pressure of I don't know
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: all these guys that are gonna get drafted in the NFL.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: You don't want to evaluate Fernando Mendoza playing William and Mary.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: You want to watch him against Ohio State, against Oregon,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: against Miami because that level of competition is the most parallel.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: It's harder in the preseason because you're like, could be
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: the third quarter who these guys playing? Are all these guys?
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Some of these guys aren't even gonna make practice squads.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: So just because you produce contact with that production matters.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: It's why Carson Beck in that Hall of Fame game,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: his numbers were good, but it really was more of
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: an eye test. It's like calm in the pocket, stepped up,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: got rid of the ball quickly. The same thing with
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: a quarterback, Like it's less about you throw a couple
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: of touchdowns. You could throw an interception and just play well,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: are you operating the offense? Are you getting out of
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: your hand when there is pressure? And some of the
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: pressure might just be people screwing up, so there's unblocked
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: guys coming at you. Can you just handle chaotic situations
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: because that happens in the preseason line, I think the
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: easiest position to watch a guy jump out will kind
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: of be linebacker him just flying around and making tackles,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: you know, shedding blocks sideline the sideline you can feel
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: his speed. But it's really hard to just say all
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: production matters because it simply doesn't. I would say does
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: not matter, would just be like like I said, on
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: the quarterback, because a lot of people are keeping an
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: eye like, hey, could there be a quarterback that's gonna
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: get cut, try to put on a practice squad that
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: maybe can make the team. It's very, very difficult to
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: evaluate these guys because who's blocking for him? We have
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: a problem with starting offensive line. So what do you
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: think the third string offensive lineman in the fourth quarter
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: against a bunch of guys that are I mean, this
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: is gonna be the highlight of some of these defensive
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: linemen and pass rushers lives making some plays in the preseason.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: So the box score with these quarterbacks, you know, is
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: probably less important, but what matters for them is really
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: just watching them play. It's pretty I remember going back
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: to Perty's rookie year, like, this guy's just pretty fucking
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: natural playing footballer. You know there's something here. Gardner Minshew's
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: the guy that's played a long time League. You remember
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: watching them really early on as young players, like, yeah,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: this guy just kind of has feel for playing quarterback.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: Then you watch other guys, you're like, this is just
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: there's a lot going on. You know that this is
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: pretty overwhelming. And at the same time, just because you
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: play well in a preseason game when there is no
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: schemed up plays when a lot of offensive coordinators get
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: like five or six of the defensive coordinator's favorite defenses,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: which helps out their young quarterback to make them look better.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: See can kind of gash them up. Remember a couple
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: of years ago, before JJ hurt his knee, JAJ McCarthy
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: looked incredible in a preseason game. Clearly that didn't matter.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: And that's the other thing is you gotta be very
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: careful of just because a guy starts doesn't mean he's
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: gonna make the team. So because so many of these
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: teams now rest a large percentage of guys that they're
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: gonna keep on their roster, you might get in in
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: the second quarter. You know, it's like one thousand dollars
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: used to be a lot, right, one thousand dollars like
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: doesn't go as far as he used to. You know,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: they say, like sixty is like the old forty. Right,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: people look and feel younger than they ever have. We're
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: much healthier country. It's kind of like that in football.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: You know a lot of these guys would have been
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: playing in the third and fourth quarter ten years ago.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Now they might come in the first quarter or same court,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: because you just need bodies to play, and you got
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: to be very very careful about Well, he was just
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: playing in the second quarter of the last three games.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Now we cut them. What's going on? Yeah, because the
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: coaches are trying to tell you it doesn't really happen, Yo,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Middle Coup. Do you think the quote quarterback competition in
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Minnesota was only stated to try to drive value on JJ.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: To me, it seemed to like a load of bs
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: even from the jump. Everyone in their grandma knew the
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: plan as soon as they got Kyler to come to
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: the team. This has pump and dump written all over it. Well,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: part of a pump and dump is you need someone
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: to dump them too. I think he really really tried
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: to be open minded, because sometimes players just pop right.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Sometimes they do so I think he was probably hoping.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: You've seen so many different stories, You've read so many
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: or heard so many different takes of like QUESTI Kevin
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: O'Connell who was responsible. There's no way JJ's on the
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: team if Kevin o'coalle didn't want him. I'm not saying
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: he was the leading force of the lover of JJ
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: McCarthy coming out of Michigan, but you can't convince me
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: that he also wasn't very intrigued in a fan and
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: on board with the draft pick. Now, listen, it's a
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: production based business and you can change fast the moment
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: you think a guy can't play. But it does feel
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: like he wanted this to work and it just did not.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: And I think it's less about pumping and dumping and
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: more about like they probably knew a week easily ago.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, he probably knew the moment training camp started,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: like where he was leaning, but he couldn't say it,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: and then he kind of had to give it a
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: week in pads, like you couldn't just say the day
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: after pads in day one. But once you get close
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: to preseason game one, you're like, I don't want to
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: waste any reps. I don't want to waste one more
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: second of pretending, because once I pretend on the field,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: I'm limiting Kyler and the offense's capability to figure out
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: exactly what we're good at, what we need to change.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I hear what you're saying, but we have
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: to see how this plays out over the next couple weeks.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, is he traded here soon or did they
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: just play him in all these preseason games. I don't
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: know what exactly they're gonna do. Heard you're looking for
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: right hand man to drive you around for five hundred
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars a year. Where can I fill out an
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: app for that position? I said, if I was Tony
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Romo or Tiger Woods, I would just pay those guys
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: five hundred thousand dollars a year to be my right
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: hand man, like fifty cent and drive me around. I
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: didn't say I have five hundred thousand dollars to pay
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: a driver, So no, I am not looking for a driver.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Uh and definitely not at that rate. When I do
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: need a driver, I can get an uber. So as
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: of right now, I said, if I were those guys
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: at their income levels, their net worse. I just think
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: I would not drive very often at all, And if
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: I was ever doing anything remotely fun, my right hand
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: man would be with me, and he'd be driving and
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: I'd be in the backseat and I take care of him.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: We do buddies. We just eat together, tell swap stories,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: just get close, you know. But I don't live that life.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: But I if I were those guys, I would and
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: I would avoid all these problems. And I'm also when
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: I say that about people, because I think it's get
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: a driver. I do understand, like Tiger Wood's big thing
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: is like I feel human driving a car. And I
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: got no issue if you want to like go get
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: a breakfast burrito, or you wake up and you you know,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: you drive to the gym. I am talking though, like
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: when you're doing business stuff or doing things that are
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: gonna involve boozing, like playing in these tournaments. And you're
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: worth hundreds of millions of dollars if you were Tiger,
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: like a billion dollars, you're a fucking cheap skate. Really,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: if you don't have a driver, These NFL owners don't
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: drive anywhere. How Philip Rivers had a driver from San
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Diego up to LA just so we could study the playbook.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: So I'm kind of relaxing. You know, you drive so much,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: and like down here in La, I get I don't
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: have a car, so Uber to the studio and then
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: tomorrow or Uber down to uh well, Fox says, it's
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: like car service thing that will take me down to
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Newport Beach. Sit in the back. It's like if I
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: did have things to do, like if I if I ran,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: like if I was CEO or whoever, I had tangible
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: things I always had to do, like and but I
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: was on the road a lot, it'd be a no brainer.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: You can be so productive back there, because that's one problem,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: and I see it in La. We're just stuck in
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: traffic all the time. You get nothing done. You hate
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: so much time commuting. Obviously, you have to be able
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: to afford that, so it you know, have to be
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: a certain level. But like to me a driver, once
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: you hit a certain status of like what your job
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: required and financially you were doing well, it's just fucking
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: no brainer. And then you factor, like you like playing
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: golf tournaments and having a few cocktails. You want to
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: have a few transfusions. And if you play as shitty
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: as Tony Romo did in that Wisconsin tournament, maybe six
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: or seven, it doesn't even matter. You tell the bartender
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: another round Tony Romost done. I mean that one. We
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: talked about it yesterday. He's just I don't know how
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: they're officially gonna handle it. I just we're not seeing
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: him this year on television. You don't go into Week one.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: These networks live and die for the NFL. It's the
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: lifeblood of their business. And a guy that you're paying
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: almost twenty million dollars to form, I mean, one of
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: the most famous people in like the business. We could
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: argue whether he's good or bad at his job. The
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: only reason you do this is to get out of this.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: This is not one of those like in the NFL,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: like this guy's getting spending for two games. This is like,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: we want out of this business. No way it would
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: happen to Collinsworth, Troy Aikman, zero chance. I mean it's
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: just none Herb Street with college football like zero. They
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: want out of the Romo business. Question for three and out.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Left tackle is considered one of the most important positions
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks blind side. If you have a left handed quarterback, though,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: does right tackle become more important position because now the
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: blind side is on the other side? Is that why
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: the Falcons have two left handed quarterbacks? So they can
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: mirror their offensive line no matter which one is the starter. Also,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: I work at a certain food spot in la It
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: is the best food delivery in the market. Just clean
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: food that is also delicious. Just another option I've just been.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: I basically just have to take care of dinner and
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: I just do room service here, which goes to Fox,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: which I hope is above bor. Just no one's ever
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: said anything, uh cheap though, you know, I'm just getting
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: salads and some burgers and random shit. That's a good question.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: It's funny most times when the left handed quarterback is that,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: we don't have that many, But when we've had them,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: it's not like you move your left tackle to right tackle.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: So I think typically historically it was because that's where
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: the best pass rusher came from. But now so many
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: of these teams have good pass rushers on the right tackle.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: To have a good offensive line, you really need two
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: really good tackles. Now, if you look around the league,
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: for the most part, the best tackle is on the
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: left side lane. Johnson's played his entire career on the
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: right up until this year, Pine Seul's been on the right.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: The Chargers are pretty lucky that they're gonna have, you know,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: two bookend tackles because they got Slater, so Alt can
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: just plaan the right. But it's not like to his bad.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Miami had a bad offensive line, and I guess the
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: Falcons have just good offensive lineman. I don't know. I
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: just it's one of those things that I'm sure gets
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: discussed like internally in some of these buildings, but it's
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: never really becomes a conversation. It's pretty football nerdy. I
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: would say, try to think like Steve Young. I don't
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: even know who the left tackle was that Harris Spartan.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: He's probably old by then. Who that Michael Vick? Like
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: when Michael Vick started, when my first year in Philly
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: and he had that great season, Jason Peters didn't move
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: to the right tackle. He'd just stayed on the left.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: For probably ninety nine percent of NFL fans, they picked
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: their favorite team as a kick and rock with them
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: the rest of their life. But if you could pick
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: one team to be quote, your team for life, regardless
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: of location, who would you choose? It's a good question.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: I'm probably a bad guy asked, because who's ever good
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: is who I watched the closest and talk the most about.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Because of this job, I don't really have the opportunity
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: to go to games anymore because Sunday is a long
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: work day. We do podcasts after Thursday and Monday, so
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: it's not like I would have the opportunity to go
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: to games any differently than I would now. I here,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the curveball like football, I don't.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter to me. I just I want the
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: best stories. I want the shit that's gonna interest the
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: most people. I truly just whatever's best for this business.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: It does. I would pick the baseball or basketball. I
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: think I would just pick the Yankees. Like I don't
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: like the Yankees now. I mean, I don't have anything
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: against them, but it would just be I just feel
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: like I know so many people that are Yankee, and
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: there's just such a community, such a big, big fan base.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: You just meet so many people like me too. Cubs
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: would be kind of cool. I'd probably pick a baseball team.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: I love the Giants growing up. They're so dog shit
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: right now and just out of you know, some some pride.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: I can't pick the Dodgers, even though the Dodgers owner
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: the FEDS are on that guy's ass. I mean he
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: buys the Lakers. He clearly is taking heat, needs some cash.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Who buys a team and then flips it six months later,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's unheard of. He just when I saw
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: that tweet this morning when we were in the meeting,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: I had to do adult I'm like, what did Jeanie buss?
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: What's going on here? That guy? One problem? Money's all relative, right,
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: If you have one hundred thousand dollars loan, you're only
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: worth two hundred grand. If shit gets weird, you're in trouble. Well,
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: even if you're a billionaire, if you got some some
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: credit lines, and if it goes the other way, you
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: can find yourself in a pinch quick. And it feels
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: like this guy is in a pinch, which the other thing.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: If I'm a Dodger fan, I'm starting to get a
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: little worried, you know. I'm just like, financially, are we
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: just gonna stay dominant? Or is this gonna come creep
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: up on us? SOMETHINGNA keep an eye on. I think
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: I would pick the Yankees. There'd just be something about,
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: like something special about that brand. Cubs Red Sox wouldn't
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: suck either. What do you think it will take for
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen to be considered an all time great. What
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: what I'd really do back is having gone to a
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: small school that has no pride in sports. Whenever I
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: meet someone like I play golf with a good buddy
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: that went to Arkansas, he gets so angry during football
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: season and so fired up during basketball season. You know,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: knowing people that have gone to USC UCLA working with
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: some of these guys with Coward show that like went
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: to Oregon or you know, went to Arizona or living
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: in Scottsdale. When ASU makes that run you know in
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: the in the playoffs to play Texas, Like, there's just
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: something that that is the one thing. Like when I
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: was going to college, it didn't even even though I
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: applied to like Arizona, Arizona State and Oregon. I got
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: into all those schools, it never crossed my mind to
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: go to them. And listen, I don't regret. My life's
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: worked out pretty fucking well, but it is just there'd
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: be something cool about just like Florida's on today. I
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: ran into a guy at the gym the other day
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: and I started talking to him because he had the
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: little EpiPen. Honestly, if it wasn't for Jack and his
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: peanut allergy, I wouldn't even have known when the EpiPen
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: was So I started talking to him. Financed bro from
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: New York. I think he's doing pretty well, big talker,
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: And then he started I started we started talking where
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: we went to school. He said, he went to Florida.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: He's my age. It's like I was there in the
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: heyday Tim Tebow, Urban Meyer. We won national championships in
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: football and basketball. It didn't get any better. I'm like,
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: even when your team suck, like Florida's had some rough years,
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: the pride you take in that. I do think the
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: pride like even if you're a diehard Yankee fan or
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: diehard Niner fan or Dodger Laker fan, like you didn't
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: go to the Dodgers, right, you didn't attend uh lambeau
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Field and Learn and green Back like you might have
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: gone to games there, and like you've been root for
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: the Packers. It was like I went to Florida, I
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: was on that campus. That's it that those four or
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: five years are depending on if you're you know, six years,
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: if you're like Tommy Boy, seven eight changed the course
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: of my life. So I would trade that. I wish
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: I had my same experience. My life worked out the
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: way it did. But I'm like, oh, yeah, I went
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: to Texas, Like, you know, I went to Oregon. You know,
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: I wish I had that. I went to Georgia. I
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: went to Ohio State. I I there's a jealousy even
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: people like you meet someone like I went, I have
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: three generations. We went to Iowa. That's fucking sweet. Every
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Saturday during the fall. It's like a deeper meaning, like
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: we all get that with pro sports. We all don't
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: get that with with college. It's probably common knowledge to
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: say that Texans have the best pass rush duo in
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: the league. Yet Miles Garrett had puer sack numbers that
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: outperformed both Will Hunter and Will and Daniel Hunter. I
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: called him Will Hunter's that's actually a pretty good name.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: Will Hunter be like a movie name and did it
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: from behind, and Byron Young had a ten sack season.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't that just make them the de facto best in
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: the league. Yeah, I think there's you know, I just
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: think you'd have to look at best defensive lines in
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: the league. That's the best way to do it, right.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: He won the Defensive Player of the year. He was
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: the best defensive player in the year last season. I
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: think Will Anderson's he'd be my bet right now. He's
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: looking at about six to one to win Defensive Player
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: of the Year this year. But if you just look
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: at best defensive lines in the league, you would say
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: the Rams, you would say the Texans, you would say Seattle,
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: you would say who am I missing? Seattle? Denver? So
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: because it's not I mean Miles Garrett, what defensive player
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: of the year? And the Browns? What was there? Draftick
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: five four? You know, do the math. It's really more
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: of a team unit. Like I saw some of the
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: Denver Broncos guys say that they want to break the
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: season record, which that has a huge impact. US as
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: a team had more sacks besides just one guy like
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Miles Garrett could have way less sacts this year and
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: he looked way better. Am I crazy for thinking the
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: Chiefs are in store for another unimpressive season. I keep
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: hearing people say that as a year they will bounce
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: back and get what they've been doing the last decade.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: I don't see it. Mahomes is coming off of major injury.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: Their best offensive weapon is thirty six and a wide
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: receiver can't stay out of the county jail and will
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: likely get suspended. They lost McDuffie and Watson on top
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: of that, the AFC West schedules this year is brutal.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: Of course, they have Andy, so you can never count
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: them out, but to me, it seems like they are
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: in for many rebuilt. I think one thing with football
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: every team has to do this is you constantly have
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: to change, tweak, adapt your schemes and specifically and often
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: when something isn't working. So I think they feel really
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: good about their offensive line. They signed Kenneth Walker, they
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: drafted another running back Like I do them at they
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: bring the enemy back. I do think they're gonna want
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: to run the ball more now. Travis is old looked
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: like he showed signs of slowing down last year. You
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: know where she Rice's I saw quote Today's like you
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: know that at thirty days really made me evaluate some
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: things like do you think he is a good player?
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: So I think there's just a lot of question marks
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: with how impactful the young guys are going to be.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: I would imagine the corner Delane's going to be good,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: but Carloff just did not play well last year. You know,
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: Chris Jones for years now has kind of picked the spots.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: The dude they drafted from Clemson, talented player, very underwhelming
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: last season. Our Mason the pass rush from Oklahoma is good,
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: but to me, especially early on his career, is probably
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: more like situational pass rusher. They do have some bags
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: and if Mahomes is back motivated, Like, they won a
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: lot of games the year they went fifteen to two
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: a couple of years ago and won the Super Bowl
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: just off grit and guile, or maybe that was the
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: year they lost the Eagles, but they just they have
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: a lot of guys to know how to win. Are
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: they gonna win fifteen games? No, Like if they want,
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: if they went ten and seven, I think you're talking
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: about like probably the seventh seed, that would be a
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: pretty good bounce back while they're doing a rebuild mini rebuild.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: That's fair. What are you What are some of your
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: favorite football Saints? I hear you say the Ray Lewis
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: Monday through Saturday one a bunch of times and Jerry
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: Jones Premium thing. Is there anything else you think is
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: funny intelligent? That's a good question. Uh, yeah, not that
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: jumps off. Right now, I have to think about that one.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: What super Bowl matchup do you think would generate the
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: most type as a Steeler Homer and Aaron rodd and
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers walk off Super Bowl appearance versus the Cowboys
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  Speaker 1: would be off the charts. Uh, that's a great question.
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  Speaker 1: You know, at one thing, the Super Bowl has proven
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  Speaker 1: that it's it's pretty it's not market dependent, like the
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  Speaker 1: World Series is. The year the Dodgers and the Yankees played,
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  Speaker 1: the ratings were enormous. Right the year Indiana played okayc
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  Speaker 1: in basketball, it was awful. If the Rays played the
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  Speaker 1: Hockey Brewers, the World Series ratings would be shitty. If
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  Speaker 1: the Dodgers are in it, If the Cubs are in
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: it and the Yankees are in it, or the Red
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: Sox are in it, it's a big deal in football,
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  Speaker 1: Like the Chiefs became the Cowboys pretty quickly because they
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  Speaker 1: had a star quarterback. Buffalo relatively small market, really small
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  Speaker 1: market relative to America, yet they are a huge brand.
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  Speaker 1: And Josh is just a story of a guy that's
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: had just devastating playoff losses. That have devastating playoff loss
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  Speaker 1: I would say that you know, there's so much hype
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  Speaker 1: on the Rams. I think if like Josh Allen, Let's
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: say the Rams went like sixteen to one and Josh
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  Speaker 1: Allen finally made the Super Bowl, there's like Josh Allen,
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  Speaker 1: can he take down the greatest football team you know
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: we've seen since the Seven Pats or something? Record wise?
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  Speaker 1: I know that they didn't win, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: I guess ratings wise, like you'd be like, well, Cowboys.
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  Speaker 1: I think once you get to the Super Bowl, unless
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  Speaker 1: it was like Jagg's Cardinals. I just think there's so
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  Speaker 1: much buzz. Why is it so difficult for Cleveland to
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  Speaker 1: name a quarterback? We've seen enough of Sean to know
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: he has mostly lost his ability to play at the
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  Speaker 1: pro level, and Shador Sanders is one of the most
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  Speaker 1: hype young players in the NFL. What is holding a
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  Speaker 1: team back from making a choice. I think they got
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  Speaker 1: fifty plus million dollars fifty million reasons why Deshaun's got
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  Speaker 1: a chance to be the starting quarterback, and let's face it,
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: gonna be the starting quarterback. I think it's pretty clear
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: by the reports, like Deshaun's start in Week one, Now,
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: could Shador be playing by Week two? Yeah? I just
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: think that they've paid him so much money, they just
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: want to see if there's something there, and if it
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  Speaker 1: just looks the same, maybe he gets benched week one A.
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  Speaker 1: I just think his contract gives him the gives him
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  Speaker 1: the nod, and the owner, you know, probably putting a
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  Speaker 1: little pressure because I'm with you. Why did the Texans
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  Speaker 1: feel like a small market team? Houston is the fifth
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  Speaker 1: largest metro area in the United States. It's not even
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: that though they're not even the newest. The Rockets and
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: Astros feel the same way as a fan of them all.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: The Astros are cheap compared to the others in market size.
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  Speaker 1: The Rockets front office is tragic, but is the reason
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  Speaker 1: that Texans are viewed the way a side effect of
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: being an expansion franchise, lack of playoff success, a combination.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: I think it's pretty simple that the biggest team, or
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  Speaker 1: one of them in the NFL in terms of brand,
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  Speaker 1: in terms of fan base, is in the state. So
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  Speaker 1: if the Dallas Cowboys were based in Florida or Colorado
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  Speaker 1: and the Houston Texans were Texas's team, then I do
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  Speaker 1: imagine be a little different. I hear what you're saying
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  Speaker 1: about the expansion, but before the Titans moved like that,
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  Speaker 1: they're used to the Houston Oilers, Like Houston's had an
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  Speaker 1: NFL team for a large percentage of years. I truly
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  Speaker 1: believe it's the Cowboys being there. And I think sometimes
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  Speaker 1: you can get dwarfed in your own market when you
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: share a state, right, Yeah, I don't know. I'm not
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: that familiar with the state of Texas in terms of geographically,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: but like and obviously Oakland is closer to the Niners
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: than Dallas's to Houston. But like the Raiders, once they
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: moved and then they came back, once they returned in
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: the mid nineties, the forty nine ers dwarfed them and
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  Speaker 1: the best thing they ever did. And listen, I was
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: once on a record of saying I hated the move.
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  Speaker 1: Now granted I was biased, I was on the radio station.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't want to lose them, But like, leaving to
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  Speaker 1: Vegas is the best thing the franchise ever did financially,
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  Speaker 1: just for the future of of their franchise. As from
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: a building standpoint, from a practice facility standpoint, from an
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  Speaker 1: infrastructure standpoint, it's just really really hard, you know, to
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  Speaker 1: compete with the Dallas Cowboys, and you could also argue
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  Speaker 1: like one of I mean, I it's like feels like
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State, Michigan, LSU, Georgia, Bama. I mean, I'd put
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  Speaker 1: Texas top three brand in college football. So you have
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  Speaker 1: this enormous college football team that feels as not as
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: big as the Cowboys, but like equally as big as
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: the Houston Texas. That's why I saw this meme on
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: the internet. It was this dude watching Drew Brees. He
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: was on his couch and it looked like his wife
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: was filming him, and she wrote out on the Instagram
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: reel like he didn't cry when we got married or
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: at the birth of our two children, but he's currently
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: crying at the of watching Drew Brees getting ducked in
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. And it's like, well, the Saints
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: were the Aints, they didn't matter, and then the Saints
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  Speaker 1: for a long period of time, and even now like
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: LSU is a bigger deal in New Orleans in the Saints,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: like LSU is the biggest football team in the state. Now,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: there was a stretch with Drew Brees and Sean Payton
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: where maybe they surpassed them, maybe they equaled them. Like
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: it's it's really hard to compete, you know. It's like
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: the ramp and every market is different. Like the Rams,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: they're a huge national brand. They're not even remotely close
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: to the biggest team in this area that I'm sitting in.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: The Dodgers and the Lakers dwarfed them in popularity one
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: because they left they came back. But usually most of
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: these football markets, the football team is the biggest thing.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: Like the Mariners are big in Seattle, not even close
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: to the Seahawks, Like the Giants and Warriors are really
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: freaking big in the Bay Area. When the Niners are winning,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: they dominate. Curry changed that a little bit in his heyday,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: but like right now, it ain't even close. You go
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: to Philly, you go you know, New York's a little unique.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: The Yankees and the Knicks are really really big. So
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  Speaker 1: I think it's very market dependent and state dependent OnEnd
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  Speaker 1: on this question. My actual question is this gave me
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: some compliments. Don't need to read them. I appreciate them. Chestin.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: I'm a chief season ticket holder going on year seven.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: I've seen a lot, to say the least, that's that's
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: a pretty good stretch you've had, you know, But the
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: team is moving to Kansas in a few years, and
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: it has me thinking about my future with these tickets.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: I like to gamble. I'm in three fantasy football leagues,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: and I pay for NFL Sunday ticket. I get a
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: little screwed over with the full football experience. When the
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: Chiefs played home, I end up missing the other games
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: and usually have to play catchup when I get home
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: from a ten hour day at Arrowhead. Should I keep
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: my season tickets at least until the switch locations, or
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: should I give them up so I can enjoy the
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: full NFL experience. I don't want to be a Debbie downer,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: because I'm I got a little Chiefs fandom somewhere deep
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: in me. I got close buddies, love Andy Beach and
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: Bradway and their crew. Like I root for them. It's
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: probably peaked, you know, not that they can't be competitive again,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: but like they're not going to five Super Bowls in
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: six years. I mean for six straight years every conference
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: championship game was are you guys never went on the
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: road in the playoffs. It doesn't get any better than
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: that in the Bill Wallsharer or the Steelers era. Like
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: I bet if we look these teams were going on
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: the road a lot, So I believe this. The season
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: tickets way back in the day, pre internet, season tickets
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: were important because it gave you access to these games
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: unless you were like gonna find a scalper or whatever.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: Once the ticketing app comes shot out seageek, and just
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: the access we have with the Internet to like, hey,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: I want to go. If I was just in Chicago tomorrow,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: it's like, oh, the Cubs are played within five minutes.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: I could purchase Cubs tickets in any area in this
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: in the stadium. If I wanted to spend a bunch
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: of money, I could find some sweet seats. If I
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: wanted to sit in the outfield and just booze, I
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: could find those. It's like if you're bezos or elon
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: or have a ton of money, or it's already in
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: your family, I get it. But like second homes, I
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: want a Lake Homer, I want that. Or there's this
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: thing called airbnb. It's pretty easy. It's like, yeah, this
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: year we're gonna go on a vacation and we want
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: to runt a house here. This year we might not go, right.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: So the ability to like travel anywhere and just stay
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: at a house has never been easier. So it's like,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: do you need a second home or you just if
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: you don't have the money, obviously it's a no go.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: But even if you do, it's like, well, I get
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: invested and just go on vacations when I want to
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: two places that I want to go and find access
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: two places that I want to stay, and then I
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: don't have to the upkeep, I don't have the property taxes,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: I don't have to deal with trying to airbnb that
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: out or whatever. Fuck let's headache. So I do think
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: the Internet has changed our world in terms of options.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: Like Clark Hunstock would love to hear this, I would
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: say canceling. It's like, hey, you want to go to
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: two games a year out of the eight or nine,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: fucking buy the tickets. It maybe cost you a little more,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: right just then you on an individual basis, But it's
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: like the other game you have to worry about. You
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: don't have to like, hey, I can't make this game.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: I gotta give it to my sell to my buddies,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: or or some games like I don't really want to
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: go to this game today. I'm not feeling it. Yeah,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: So I think the optionality. You can still go to
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: games whenever you want, right, I mean, it's just it's
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: never been easier with these apps to go to games. Ever,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: I'm stunned, honestly, I guess I'm not totally stunned, but
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: younger people, and again, I didn't grow up in a
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: family that had season tickets to pro teams, which would
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: have been extremely cool. I had some friends who's like
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: uncle owned a construction company and they had season ticket
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: the Giants games. I remember thinking it was the coolest thing. Ever,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: then you get older, like I'm gonna drive an hour
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: to go to the Giants game eighty two times a year.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: Fuck that, I'll go to the two games a year
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: I want to go to. You know. So, I get
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: it from a business standpoint, right to give them to clients,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: But if you're just doing it as an individual, I
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: would recommend no. And then if you want to choose
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: a Raider game and you know you the Bronco game,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: right again, might have to pay a little bit more
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: to attend, but who knows, maybe not, so I would
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: say no. Audios, have a great day. See a ways.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: The volume