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Is DOC RIVERS the most OVERRATED coach in NBA history? · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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  he's been on our show before. We're very happy to have him on
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  again. He is a guy that's been in
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  baseball for 27 years. So ladies and gentlemen, we are
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  now talking to 27 year MLB official scorer Howie Carpet.
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  Howie, what's up, my friend? What's up gentlemen?
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  Good to be back. Absolutely.
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  We're very happy to have you on, man.
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  And I'm not very happy over the last two games for the New York
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  Yankees. I don't know.
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  No, I do not know what's going on with the Yankees.
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  I know it's early and the Yankees have had pretty good.
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  Their season's been pretty good. Their their pitching has been
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  dominant. Schlittler didn't look good in
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  his last start. We all know what this team is
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  going to be this year if this pitching staff can stay at 100%.
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  What do you think is gone on in the last two games against an
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  ace team that is not expected to have a good pitching staff but a
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  very good offensive lineup? Well, the bottom of the order
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  has been a problem early on, but you can't get too crazy in 12
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  games. I mean, Brian McMahon has shown
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  in the past that he doesn't hit. You know, Caballero is not a
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  starting player, so that's been exposed a little bit.
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  Austin Wells will hit. Right now.
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  He's cold. The weather's cold.
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  You know, the better hitters are going to heat up when the
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  weather gets better. You know Wells, Wells can hit.
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  He's hit throughout his minor league career.
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  Last year was almost like an aberration.
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  He's had some good at bats. He hasn't had a lot of luck in
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  the early going, but you know, it's helped bring into focus at
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  the bottom of the order is struggling now.
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  I think Trent Grisham at the top of the order has struggled.
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  You know, that could be a mistake, you know, that they
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  made during the offseason giving him the qualifying offer.
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  I mean, they felt he was, he was going to turn down the offer as
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  if there was a market out there, something they may have
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  miscalculated on. I personally, I would have gave
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  the offer to Devin Williams because he would not have
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  accepted it and they would have got that draft pick that they
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  coveted. But right now they're stuck with
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  Grisham at 22 million a year. I don't think he's a $22 million
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  player and he's not a top of the lineup type hitter.
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  So they have Judge it too. Judge is off to a slow start.
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  Look for him to duplicate what he did last year.
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  He may not reach those heights that that was a tremendous all
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  around season that he had last year, you know, in all offensive
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  categories to expect him to reach those same heights.
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  It just doesn't happen two years in a row.
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  But he's batting second and someone pointed out to me and I
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  kind of knew it myself, you know, They bat him second to the
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  ad for the analytical formula of getting him more at bats.
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  But when the the lineup comes around, the guys batting in
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  front of him are 789 and 1, so he's coming up a lot of times
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  leading off. He's already let off an inning 7
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  times this year batting second, which means Grisham has ended an
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  inning 7 times, including with men on base.
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  So they really have to assess, you know, what their batting
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  water is like, for one thing. But I think their offense will
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  click a little better when the weather gets warm.
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  As you mentioned, Errol, their pitching has been outstanding.
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  Ryan Weathers was terrific today, gave up one run, pitched
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  8 innings, and he gave the Yankees all they could handle
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  that they needed and they just couldn't hit Jeffrey Springs,
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  who was a little better than Ryan Weathers.
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  Now the last two nights, you know, today they really have a
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  whole lot of opportunities. Or to give them credit, they
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  stole three bases. So they tried to make something
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  happen. When they did get guys on last
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  night, they just didn't come through in the clutch, so I
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  think they'll be better in that category.
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  But you know, if the bottom of the order continues to struggle,
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  it's going to be tough to score runs against the better
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  pitchers. All right, so Spencer Jones is a
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  guy that a lot of people want to see in the majors now.
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  Right now he's batting 206 in the Miners, but he still has two
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  home runs. He still has 9 RBIs.
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  He has seven hits and 34 at bats.
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  This guy can give the Yankees a little bit of an edge.
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  I don't know if he's going to hit first, but you could put him
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  in the middle of the lineup and see how he fits.
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  Why aren't the Yankees thinking about bringing this guy up?
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  I, I don't get it. I know he's not hitting for
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  average right now, but this kid has a tremendous amount of
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  power. You saw what he did in in spring
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  training. He changed his stance to a Otani
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  stance. I think this guy can add a
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  little bit of edge in that line up.
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  Why aren't the Yankees thinking about bringing this kid up?
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  Well, right now he has no spot in the outfield for one thing.
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  And the other thing is he's what they already have.
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  They have power in their outfield.
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  They need guys to not strike out as much, and Jones is striking
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  out a ton. That has not improved a whole
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  lot. I'd like to see Jason Dominguez
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  up here and give him the shot. You know, they've been playing
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  him in center field in the minor leagues.
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  Maybe they finally woke up and get him back to his more natural
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  spot when they threw him in left field.
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  You got to remember the left field, the Yankee Stadium is a
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  very difficult position to play when you haven't had the
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  experience of playing it. So this narrative developed that
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  he's not a good outfielder. You know, he had some struggles.
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  He's a 23 year old kid. Yeah, he's had some struggles
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  batting right-handed, but at least he showed some flashes
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  last year. And they need guys who are not
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  going to strike out as much. They still have too many
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  strikeouts in that lineup. And I think because Jones is
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  striking out a ton, it's kind of holding them back.
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  Now. They may bring them up, as you
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  mentioned, to get a spark. But again, this offense needs
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  less strikeouts. Put the ball in play and make
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  things happen. Finally, after years of being,
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  you know, ignorant of the stolen base, they're finally trying to
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  steal bases, thankfully, to make some things happen.
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  They tried to do that today. And they almost got Jeffrey
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  Springs off his game. You know, people got to realize
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  just a stolen based threat can make a pitcher make a mistake,
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  you know, to have them concentrate and get distracted.
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  Now they almost did that today. You know, it didn't workout.
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  But thankfully, they have some a little more athleticism in their
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  lineup that they've had the past few years.
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  Right now, you know, to me, I would bat Jazz Chisholm first.
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  I know he doesn't get on base a ton.
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  I know they're in love with this on base percentage at the top of
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  the order. But when he does get on, he
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  distracts the pitcher and you know, look, you know, you open
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  the base for Judge, they're probably going to walk them.
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  So bat Judge 3rd and put somebody in between.
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  You know, two years ago when they had Juan Soto hitting
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  second, they never stole with the lead off, man.
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  They weren't going to walk Soto to pitch the judge with the open
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  base. But they never stole the base
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  with the lead off. Guy Volpe let off for a while,
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  you know, then Grisham let off. They don't take advantage of
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  what you know, the new rules are offering them at times.
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  And then they look like they look very flat.
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  That against the guy who really dominated them today.
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  So I want to go to the pitching side of it.
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  They've been had a historically good start.
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  Even when it admits their two losses of the A's, they still
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  pitch very well. You look at the depth that they
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  have in that rotation. Now, you mentioned that maybe
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  they should have brought back Devin Williams.
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  You could have maybe helped with that bullpen a little more.
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  But we've seen the Yankees bullpens be flashy, big name
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  relievers that they get overpaid and they don't fizzle out as
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  much. So what are your thoughts of the
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  overall impressions with the pitching depth that they've had
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  this season and even the kids in their their system?
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  Well, Speedy, I think you misheard me.
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  I didn't say they should bring him back Devin Williams.
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  I said they should have. They should have made him the
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  qualifying offer because he never would would have accepted
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  it and they wanted. They want to get a draft pick.
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  You have a clue there, though. They're going to have to tweak
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  that bullpen. I don't think David Begnaar is
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  really reliable over a whole season.
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  As you see, he's a little bit of an adventure when he comes in
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  now. He's gotten out of it a couple
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  of times. Last night he may have been a
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  little fatigued, but he only gave up one run even though they
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  had second and third and and nobody out in the ninth inning.
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  But I think they're going to have to make some changes in
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  that bullpen and maybe use some of their starting depth.
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  If Louis heel was more reliable with his command, I would try
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  him as a closer. He's got dynamite stuff to where
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  he can strike out and blow guys away.
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  The problem is he gets a little, he misses the plate and loses
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  command and starts to walk people.
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  So they're a little gun shy and maybe trying that move.
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  But that's something that they make.
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  They're going to have to tweak as the season goes on.
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  Reliable at this point. Tim Hill luckily has been
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  reliable, but he can only pitch to a couple of batters.
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  They've gotten something out of Brett Hedrick, which is a little
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  surprising because I wasn't that impressed with him.
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  But I think they're going to have to tweak the bull, the back
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  end of the bullpen at some point.
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  I don't trust Camilo Doval. He's too erratic, gets wild at
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  times. He was in San Francisco when he
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  was a closer. So they have some unreliable
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  arms that they're really going to have to tweak, you know, at
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  some point during the season. That's something and you can
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  fix. You know, it's not unfixable,
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  which is a good thing. And also they're eight and four,
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  even though they haven't hit, they're getting the great
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  starting pitching. You know, their their rotation's
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  been dynamite. Schlittler had a little bit of a
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  problem in the third inning. I thought that he got a little
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  distracted when Max Muncie reached on an infield hit where
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  where, you know, he made a great pitch and Muncie got lucky and
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  put it in play. And you could see when they
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  showed Schlittler in in that, you know, isolated shot, he
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  looked like he he's a little frustrated that the guy got on,
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  even though he made a great pitch and he may have got a
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  little distracted. So they ended up with three runs
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  in the inning. But they're starting pitching is
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  reliable. It's going to get better when
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  Cole and Rodan come back. You know, Clark Schmidt may come
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  back in the second-half. You know, if these guys stay
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  healthy, they have, they have maybe the best starting rotation
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  in the league. So they're relying on that and
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  that's been carrying them so far.
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  Hey, thanks. How for coming on?
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  Talk to me a little bit about Judge.
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  You know, obviously he's getting off to a slow start and whatnot,
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  but just kind of give me the background.
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  What you think is going to, you know, is his back still hurt?
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  Is he in pain? Or do you think that, you know,
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  he's going to turn around as the season go on?
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  It's just too cold outside. Tell me a little bit what you
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  think about Judge. I think all those factors, don't
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  forget he got off to a slow start two years ago and still
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  won the MVP, had that terrible April where the fans were booing
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  him. He hit like what, 160 for the
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  whole month and then all of a sudden he took off.
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  You know, it's funny, he was in the WBC and a lot of these guys,
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  pitchers and hitters that were in the WBC, most of them are off
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  the slow starts, which is kind of weird.
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  But Joe Girardi made a good point on the broadcast last
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  night. I actually, I scored five of
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  these six games when I was home last night.
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  And Girardi said it's something that was interesting.
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  He said, you know, you gear up for this WBC, a highly emotional
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  and intense competition for two weeks after you've been in
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  spring training, then you go back to spring training, see,
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  like you come off that emotional plateau and then all of a sudden
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  you're in the regular season. We have to gear it up again.
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  I'm not worried about Judge. You know, he's going to come
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  around. He may not hit 330 like he did
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  last year, but he's going to put up the numbers.
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  I mean, he's too good a hitter. He's not past his prime.
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  You know, Bellinger's off a little slow too behind them.
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  So, you know, they're kind of challenging Judge right now.
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  But if he starts hitting, they're not going to challenge
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  him as much Quentin. So I, I think, I think he'll be
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  OK. You know, I I think he'll come
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  around and get to his numbers, but you know, it's going to
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  still be up to the rest of the lineup.
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  Giancarlo Stanton got off to a great start.
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  He's cooled off a little bit. You know, Chisholm is up and
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  down. He's off slow.
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  They have like 5 hitters who are not really doing a whole lot.
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  So that's kind of like crippling the lineup.
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  We are talking to 27 year MLB official scorer Howie Carpet.
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  He's been on our show before knows his Yankees, There's no
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  question. So I want to get into the New
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  York Mets and there's a lot of questions with this team
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  starting, they can't hit. They bring in Jorge Polanco,
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  they don't have a position for him.
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  They tried to move in the first base.
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  Now they're thinking Beatty's in everyday first baseman for this
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  team. Then you bring in guys like
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  Simeon, he's up and he's down. Beau Burchett, he can't.
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  He's been striking out a lot. This whole lineup has had a
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  problem hitting the ball. Soto can't stay healthy.
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  Lindor can't hit the ball. What's going on with the New
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  York Mets? Well, Lindor will hit.
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  He's another season's perennial slow starter.
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  I have. I'm not worried about Lindor,
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  but Shet will hit. You know, when guys go to a new
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  team in a new a new city, especially when they come to New
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  York, it's always, you know, most guys get off the slow
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  starts. Look at Alonzo in Baltimore.
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  He's struggling. He's in a new team.
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  The weather's been cold. He's hitting like 180.
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  You know, sometimes you get off the slow starts.
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  Now with the Mets, they're rolling the dice in the infield
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  at the corner spots. You can see with Bichette, he's
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  a little in between on certain ground balls, like that slow
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  roller. He's trying to backhand instead
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  of bare hand. You know, trying to backhand it
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  and throw a guy out at first is going to cost you maybe a split
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  second, which could, you know, be the difference between a
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  runner being safe and out. That's technique.
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  He's got to get a little experience and work with that,
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  you know, picking it up barehanded.
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  He's never had to do that at shortstop.
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  He certainly charge balls at shortstop, but you know, it's a
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  whole different game over there there, excuse the pun, at third
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  base. Now he's playing Polanco at
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  first, who's inexperienced. So far so good.
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  But you got to worry about, you know, the pick off throws at 1st
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  and the three one play on the flip to the pitcher.
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  You know that that takes experience.
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  It's it's a weird dynamic that they're having in the infield.
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  They brought in a 35 year old Marcus semi in the play second.
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  You know, you don't know how much range he still has left and
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  then you're putting Polanco at first.
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  So far, you know, they they've been OK.
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  They're winning tonight behind Lane McLane has been terrific so
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  far, you know, and they're starting pitching has been a
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  little better and the bullpen is produced.
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  So if they're doing that, they'll be okay for a while.
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  But you know, the divisions weird this year, my Miami is,
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  you know, a real pesky team. They're going to be a lot of
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  trouble for a lot of teams. They don't strike out.
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  They have some pretty good arms. So it's going to be crazy the
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  whole the whole season. The Mets are going to have to,
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  you know, click at some point, get it all together.
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  Hope Soto gets back to me. A key for them is Alvarez.
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  If Alvarez is hitting, he can really make that line up deep.
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  Mendoza, there's a lot of people as far as Med fans are concerned
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  all over social media that's been complaining about him.
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  They want his head. They want him to be fired before
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  the season's end. If this team doesn't find a way
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  to play at elite level with the talent that they have, the money
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  that Stearns has spent form from Uncle Stevie in the offseason,
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  you would think that this team should be an elite team.
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  They fell apart at the end of the season last year, fell out
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  of the playoffs. What do you think Stearns needs
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  to do to to keep his job and Mendoza keep his job?
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  Because if this team doesn't make the playoffs this year,
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  Stern should be fired. There's no reason why he
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  shouldn't be fired. And Mendoza if if they're not an
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  elite team or at least second place in the National League
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  East before the All Star break, don't you think that Mendoza
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  might be his? His head might be cut off and
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  and sent shipping on a on a golf course.
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  Mendoza's on the hot seat. I don't think Stearns is.
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  I think Stearns is safe even if they don't make the playoffs.
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  Mendoza would take the fall if they missed the playoffs this
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  time around. They have to make the playoffs.
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  You know that. That's a must.
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  If they miss it again, you know, like they did last year, that's
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  kind of inexcusable unless there's just a rash of injuries
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  that cripple them now. So far, Luis Robert Junior's off
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  to a good start in center field. Carson Binge is not hit, you
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  know, yet, so you don't know what you're going to get it get
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  out of him as a Rook. You know, you had that great
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  spring, but he wasn't facing a lot of good pitching.
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  You know, you face a lot of different arms, arms that are
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  not even going to be in the major leagues in spring
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  training. Now you're facing the A-Team, so
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  to speak. So and I like Brett Beatty, I
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  always did. I think he's a nice player.
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  You know, he's performed pretty well.
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  Vientos is up and down. He had that one hot stretch over
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  the weekend, but he's kind of like gone back to to what he was
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  last season. They haven't they have talent
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  there. They have have a pretty good
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  team. Again, rolling a dice at the
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  corner positions in the infield could be costly at time.
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  So far it hasn't hasn't panned out that way.
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  But now they went tonight they're they're 8:00 and 4:00.
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  So that's what you want to be. But Howie, that's the problem.
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  Jorge Polanco is not a first baseman.
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  He's never played first base in his career.
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  Beau Bichette has never played third base.
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  How could you tell me if this team doesn't make the playoffs,
• 18:02
  how does Stearns keep his job? You took you spun the wheel and
• 18:05
  made the deal. You brought these two guys in.
• 18:08
  They've never played those positions.
• 18:10
  And the only reason why you brought them in because you made
• 18:12
  a mistake with Pete Alonso and for some reason you didn't want
• 18:15
  to keep Brandon Nimmo there. So how does this make sense?
• 18:19
  Stearns is a cone guy. He's not going to get rid of him
• 18:22
  that easily. I'm telling you, he's a cone
• 18:24
  guy, man. Those who would take the fall if
• 18:27
  they don't make the playoffs. So, you know, look, if they're
• 18:30
  if they win tonight, they're eight and four.
• 18:32
  You know, you go 8 and four, win 8 out of every 12 games.
• 18:35
  You're doing OK so far. They're OK.
• 18:37
  They haven't really played the division yet.
• 18:39
  You know, they have to win the games in the division.
• 18:41
  You got to see. I mean, I agree with you with
• 18:43
  their rolling the dice at the corner infield positions.
• 18:46
  I said it when they made those moves, you know, bringing in
• 18:49
  Polanco to play first and never played first.
• 18:51
  Bichette. Bichette seemed to be a Plan B
• 18:53
  after they got burned on Kyle Tucker.
• 18:56
  They thought they were going to get Kyle Tucker and then play
• 18:58
  Brett Beatty at third. Now they're using Brady around,
• 19:01
  you know, Beatty at different positions, you know, in the
• 19:04
  infield and the outfield. Bichette will hit.
• 19:07
  I mean, he's a hitter. That's been his track record.
• 19:09
  Whether he can, you know, survive there defensively,
• 19:12
  that's another story. Can he hit New York?
• 19:14
  That's the question. He'll hit New York.
• 19:17
  He will, I guarantee. It may take a little while, but
• 19:19
  he'll get there. We've seen this Lindor, when he
• 19:23
  came to the Mets, he wasn't hitting very well.
• 19:25
  It took him two years until he figured it out.
• 19:27
  This guy's getting paid. He is the fifth highest paid
• 19:30
  player, 4th actually highest paid player in the major
• 19:33
  leagues. He's making more money than
• 19:35
  Aaron Judge is making a year. And this is what you're playing.
• 19:38
  You're paying your third baseman.
• 19:40
  He's batting what, 179 right now, 178 maybe he hits.
• 19:45
  Even if he hits, if he's hitting 23238, that to me is a bad
• 19:49
  season. And that's what you're you're
• 19:51
  putting your money. That's what you invested.
• 19:52
  Forty, $647,000,000 into a player that's never played third
• 19:56
  base and can't hit a lick right now in in Citi Field.
• 19:59
  Yeah, but you're talking about a guy has played twelve games and
• 20:02
  has a track record for hitting. You got to give him a little bit
• 20:05
  of a chance. Let's see where they are 40
• 20:07
  games in. To me, that's a that's a
• 20:10
  benchmark. We might have to come back to
• 20:11
  this. Me and you might have to come
• 20:13
  back to this. That's right.
• 20:14
  We might have to come back to this.
• 20:16
  Fair enough, all. Right, I want to shift gears a
• 20:18
  little bit to the. The other contrary has gone
• 20:20
  early in the season with the, yeah, the ABS system and the
• 20:22
  challenge system. You've seen with a lot of these
• 20:24
  players and so far I believe it's like 58% of them have been
• 20:27
  challenged correctly. And a lot of a lot of managers,
• 20:30
  even obviously a lot of umpires have already had issues with it.
• 20:32
  What are your thoughts as a score like seeing all this these
• 20:36
  calls that are being made and being overturned?
• 20:38
  I like it and I don't like it. What I don't like is that the
• 20:40
  fact that the bull can just clip that line and it's a strike.
• 20:45
  To me, it should be at least half the ball in that zone.
• 20:49
  You know, David Cohen in spring training said that the ABS is
• 20:53
  going to shrink the shrink the strike zone.
• 20:55
  I disagree and I told them I said I don't agree with that
• 20:58
  because the ball is about 3 inches wide.
• 21:01
  So if it clips the strike zone, basically it's expanding the
• 21:05
  strike zone. I think also, you know, they
• 21:08
  keep their challenges if they keep getting them right, I think
• 21:12
  they're going to have to put a limit on how many you can use in
• 21:14
  the game. And the the real interesting
• 21:17
  thing about the ABS is strategically how they're using
• 21:20
  it. Like some guys are calling for
• 21:22
  it in these bad spots and then you're running out of challenges
• 21:26
  when you like to have them in big spots.
• 21:27
  And like the late innings that's happened today where the Yankees
• 21:31
  and the A's both, you know, used up their challenges by the 6th
• 21:34
  inning. You know, there was some some
• 21:36
  guys, you know, have ridiculous challenges, you know, to where
• 21:40
  they think a ball's a ball off the plate and they're getting
• 21:43
  clipped. I think that's why the 58% shows
• 21:46
  up that the ball is just clipping the zone.
• 21:49
  You got to remember the strike zone is an imaginary zone.
• 21:52
  It's not a 3D type zone. You know, people like to say,
• 21:56
  oh, tennis, they use it on on the lines on the court.
• 21:59
  But those are those are demarcation lines that are black
• 22:02
  and white. You know, you can see those on
• 22:05
  the court. Baseball, the strike zone is
• 22:07
  imaginary and it changes for each player.
• 22:10
  So, you know, there's a little bit of, you know, uncertainty
• 22:13
  with the ABS calls, but so far, you know, it's worked out pretty
• 22:16
  good. At least it's not, you know,
• 22:18
  delaying the game. It happens quick and the fans
• 22:20
  love it. I mean, you know, they watch the
• 22:22
  video board to see what's it going to be.
• 22:24
  Is it going to be a ball, going to be a strike?
• 22:26
  You know, a couple of games have ended on the ABS challenge.
• 22:30
  We had an ABS challenge on the first pitch of a game the other
• 22:33
  night. So there's some unique things to
• 22:35
  it. To me, strategically, you got to
• 22:37
  use it the right way and trust certain people are going to make
• 22:40
  those calls. Come on, Howie, you're an old
• 22:42
  time guy. You really like this ABS this is
• 22:46
  garbage. It's just hurting baseball.
• 22:48
  These new rules, these new machines.
• 22:50
  Let's use AI now. Let's you know what, we don't
• 22:53
  even need a call strikes. Why don't we just lop it over
• 22:56
  the plate and see who can hit a home run?
• 22:58
  That's what it is now, if baseball is just become just
• 23:01
  ridiculous, you have plate, you have bases now the size of pizza
• 23:05
  boxes. I mean, none of this makes any
• 23:07
  sense. They move the what did they
• 23:09
  didn't they move the bases closer.
• 23:11
  So, yeah, it's just why are you changing the rules?
• 23:14
  Baseball's worked for over 100 years.
• 23:16
  Why are you changing it? And that goes for the terrible
• 23:19
  GM. I mean, the terrible
• 23:21
  commissioner right now that runs the league and Rob Manfred, who
• 23:24
  doesn't know what he's doing. He thinks he knows everything.
• 23:26
  He oh, I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that.
• 23:28
  You know what? Pete Rose is dead, so I'm going
• 23:30
  to put him in the Hall of Fame now.
• 23:31
  It's just horrible. This doesn't make sense.
• 23:34
  Why didn't he just retire already and bring somebody that
• 23:36
  actually knows what he's doing as a commissioner in baseball?
• 23:40
  Well, this is what it is. I mean, if you love baseball
• 23:42
  ball, you got to deal with what they're doing.
• 23:44
  I mean, this is what it is. I don't, I don't create the
• 23:47
  rules. Personally, I don't like that
• 23:49
  runner on 2nd in the 10th inning.
• 23:51
  I'd like to see at least play 3 real extra innings before you go
• 23:54
  to that runner on second because I've been at games that have
• 23:57
  gone 1819 innings and they can be dragging.
• 24:01
  I mean, they can drag, you know. So I kind of understand it a
• 24:04
  little bit, but let's let's play 3 real extra innings without the
• 24:08
  runner on 2nd and maybe then start it in the 13th if you can
• 24:12
  get that long. So look, these are these are the
• 24:15
  rules now. This is what you're handed.
• 24:17
  If you love the sport like I do, you deal with it.
• 24:20
  I certainly have to deal with it as an official scorer right now.
• 24:23
  You know, I have to chart the challenges and and certain other
• 24:26
  things that I never had to do for years, but this is what it
• 24:29
  is, you know, so could you? Imagine.
• 24:31
  Could you? Imagine you can hate it, you can
• 24:33
  hate it, whatever. This is what it is.
• 24:35
  It's not changing back to the old ways.
• 24:37
  Could you imagine if Babe Ruth was alive right now?
• 24:40
  Or Yogi Berra or Mickey Mantle or any of the greats we're
• 24:44
  playing in the game now and saying, wait a second, what the
• 24:47
  Hell's this? We never had this, but this
• 24:50
  makes no sense. For that bad imagine if an ABS
• 24:52
  challenge over overturned A-Team where Billy Martin was managed.
• 24:55
  It's. Ridiculous.
• 24:57
  I had none of it. Makes sense.
• 24:58
  You know what? We'll just you know what?
• 24:59
  We'll have robotic embolism, Embolisms sitting right over
• 25:03
  there calling strikes right now. No umpires.
• 25:05
  We don't need umpires anymore. They're wrong half the time
• 25:07
  anyways. It's ridiculous.
• 25:10
  And then we're trying to speed up the game.
• 25:12
  But now you can challenge pitches.
• 25:14
  It's ridiculous. This is ridiculous.
• 25:17
  It does making the game more exciting there.
• 25:19
  Oh, it's making the game more exciting.
• 25:20
  That's what they get. Great baseball could be a drag
• 25:23
  in slow sport. So they making it more exciting,
• 25:25
  they adding more technology. Oh yeah.
• 25:28
  And getting the bases, coasters, you know, you get more excited.
• 25:30
  Oh, it's making me so excited, so exciting.
• 25:33
  I'd rather go to a strip bar. OK, watch this garbage.
• 25:37
  You're getting on a huff right here on the show.
• 25:39
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you. Know what it is is I don't
• 25:43
  really care much about watching this garbage.
• 25:46
  You watch this and you're sitting there, you're watching a
• 25:48
  baseball game. I just want to see baseball.
• 25:50
  But now, hey, you got Aaron Boone.
• 25:52
  Oh, he challenged 5 out of 50. Big whoop.
• 25:55
  And you lost the goddamn game. That's the problem.
• 25:58
  What? What is the point of it?
• 25:59
  It's not helping. It's slowing the game.
• 26:02
  Baseball's been trying to find ways to speed the game.
• 26:05
  Now all of a sudden you can challenge plays, challenge
• 26:07
  pitches. It's it's slowing the game down.
• 26:10
  So how does this make baseball better or faster?
• 26:13
  Well, today's game was 2 hours 20 minutes, so well, it was
• 26:17
  pretty quick today and they had six challenges.
• 26:20
  I rest my case. I rest my case they've.
• 26:22
  Got twins in the. Because nobody can hit.
• 26:25
  Nobody can hit and everybody's striking out.
• 26:27
  That's why the Yankees, Oh my God, watching the Yankees when
• 26:31
  they're in these droughts, it's it's not even watch.
• 26:33
  It's not even worth watching a game.
• 26:35
  It really isn't. I talk to Manny all the time.
• 26:37
  He does the broadcast for the New York Yankees and I'm like,
• 26:39
  what are we watching here? Are we watching a baseball game?
• 26:42
  Are we just watching a peewee baseball game?
• 26:45
  We're watching Little League World Series games.
• 26:47
  That's what the Yankees are. When they can't hit, they can't
• 26:50
  hit. And again, going back to the
• 26:52
  Yankees, for all the Yankee fans that are listening to me right
• 26:54
  now, and this is a fact, if the Yankees do not figure out how to
• 26:59
  get guys home in scoring position, they're not winning
• 27:02
  anything this year. I don't care how great their
• 27:04
  pitching staff is. They could be lights out and I
• 27:06
  believe they have the best pitching staff in baseball.
• 27:09
  Especially when Cole comes back and wrote, Don comes back and
• 27:11
  Schmidt comes back in the second-half.
• 27:13
  I don't think there's is anybody better than this team because
• 27:15
  you have Schlittler who's a number one, he's proven to be a
• 27:17
  number one. Fries are #1 and Kos are #1 You
• 27:20
  have three guys that could be number ones on your in your
• 27:23
  rotation. But if you can hit as we've seen
• 27:26
  it, look against watch, watch against the Blue Jays, the
• 27:29
  Yankees pitch very well. They couldn't hit and and that
• 27:32
  is the problem for the New York Yankees.
• 27:35
  Say whatever you want how doesn't spend money.
• 27:37
  Even though the Yankees are top four team when it comes to
• 27:39
  spending money, I don't want to hear it.
• 27:41
  They're spending the money on wrong players.
• 27:44
  Find guys that can steal. Bring up your young players like
• 27:47
  Spencer Jones and Jason Dominguez.
• 27:49
  See what you have in your farm system.
• 27:51
  It's garbage watching this team and then you, you sign Grissom.
• 27:55
  Come on man. You're going to bring Grissom
• 27:57
  back. That's the guy you bring back
• 27:59
  Cuz you what? He had 25 home runs last year.
• 28:02
  Please please. Don't forget, they're why
• 28:05
  they're still thinking about paying Jazz Chisholm 35 million
• 28:07
  a year. He gave him 20 something,
• 28:09
  $1,000,000 to be an outfielder, an everyday outfielder.
• 28:12
  He's not worth garbage. OK, I'm sorry Grissom.
• 28:16
  He had one good season with the Yankees and you give him a two
• 28:18
  year extension. Great.
• 28:19
  Congratulations to him. It's only one year, so relax.
• 28:26
  It's still, it's one more year than I need, OK.
• 28:29
  I agree with you. I wouldn't have brought him
• 28:31
  back. I would have.
• 28:33
  I would be more committed to bringing up Dominguez.
• 28:36
  But you. Love Dominguez.
• 28:38
  You love Dominguez man Is is more.
• 28:40
  They call him the Martian, but he looks like an alien.
• 28:43
  OK. The kid has talent you got, you
• 28:45
  got to be a little patient and that's what they don't do.
• 28:48
  They don't show patience with some of their young guys.
• 28:51
  You know, they're relying on veterans all the time.
• 28:53
  Basically what you've been saying, they don't hit with
• 28:55
  runners in scoring position. You know, that's been their MO
• 28:58
  over these past few years. That's why they failed to
• 29:00
  advance in the playoffs. You know, it's so funny.
• 29:03
  You have a picture right there. Thank you, Fish.
• 29:04
  You have me and Rob Manford. Could you imagine going to a
• 29:07
  strip bar with Rob Manford? I mean, seriously, how would you
• 29:10
  walk in? He's like, oh, the great Rob
• 29:12
  Manfred. Maybe get him a lap dance
• 29:15
  because maybe that'll wake him up.
• 29:17
  I mean, the guy doesn't even know where he is half the time.
• 29:19
  Maybe get him a couple lap dances.
• 29:21
  Maybe he has a little bit of fun, you know?
• 29:23
  Speedy, I would love to see you. No, that's Nathan's department.
• 29:26
  I mean, maybe we'll have you strip and maybe you dance for I
• 29:30
  mean, honestly, what what would be the point of taking this man
• 29:33
  out to have fun when the guy never smiles?
• 29:35
  That guy, that picture is probably the best smile or the
• 29:38
  the the the smile when it comes to images on social media, the
• 29:42
  guy never smiles. He's always like this.
• 29:44
  He's the guy never smiles. It's horrible.
• 29:48
  Sorry I had to do that, Howie. I had to throw that one.
• 29:51
  I'm just watching baseball, man. It just, it gives me agita.
• 29:55
  I, I honestly watching the game of baseball early in the season
• 30:00
  and, and, and it is cold to me. It's an at an all time high when
• 30:04
  it comes to coldness. It's right now 40°.
• 30:07
  This is what it is in October when you're playing October
• 30:10
  baseball, when you go into a season springtime and when the
• 30:14
  weather right now it's 38° here in New York.
• 30:17
  I mean, how do you expect to play and, and actually be able
• 30:20
  to hit when it gets warmer when, when you know, the air starts to
• 30:24
  feel, you know, you're cold, all right?
• 30:27
  And that's what Aaron Judge is right now.
• 30:29
  Once it gets warmer out, I remember, I think it was in July
• 30:32
  last year when it got really warm out.
• 30:34
  I think Aaron Judge hit like 10 home runs in like 15 games or
• 30:38
  something. I'm at magnitude.
• 30:40
  I don't think Aaron Judge is going to be as bad as he has
• 30:43
  been. But what bothers me right now is
• 30:45
  he's going to fall so behind in his batting average.
• 30:48
  By the time he gets hot, he's only going to be hitting 250.
• 30:51
  You know, I mean, what is he hitting right now, 170?
• 30:54
  I don't even know what is is batting average.
• 30:56
  I think it was. It's around 2:42. 40 right now,
• 30:59
  so he brought it up at one point it was like one 59160.
• 31:03
  So he's starting to hit the ball, but you want to see the
• 31:06
  guy. At this time of year you can
• 31:08
  bring your average up real fast, so.
• 31:12
  That's the problem. All right.
• 31:13
  I want to shift gears again to this salary cap debate that
• 31:17
  we've been hearing all offseason.
• 31:18
  Obviously we talked about the Dodgers signing Kyle Soccer and
• 31:20
  a lot of MLBGMS thought that might have been the final straw.
• 31:23
  The obviously the scandal with the players union and Tony Clark
• 31:26
  and all that stuff. Like now they're dealing with a
• 31:28
  new guy. Are they going to be able to
• 31:29
  fight this battle? Do you see a lockout impending?
• 31:31
  And what type of salary cap, Yes, salary cap or like payroll
• 31:36
  restrictions do you think could come?
• 31:38
  Well, unfortunately, you know, people that are around the game
• 31:41
  feel there's going to be a lockout next year.
• 31:43
  You know, the Dodgers spend money, but they spend it the
• 31:45
  right way. So they're winning.
• 31:47
  If they were blowing all these, you know, free agents that they
• 31:49
  signed, they weren't succeeding. People wouldn't be complaining.
• 31:52
  But they're winning. The two time defending world
• 31:54
  champions, you know, Yeah, they pick up all the talent.
• 31:58
  They've basically cornered the Japanese market thanks to Otani.
• 32:02
  So, you know, and the lower level teams, you know, also
• 32:07
  there's a problem. There's a lower level teams
• 32:08
  don't spend. There's going to have to be a
• 32:11
  floor as well as a ceiling if they have a salary cap.
• 32:15
  So, you know, it's going to be interesting to see what happens.
• 32:18
  You know, baseball, they, they seem to get on a roll and then
• 32:21
  all of a sudden they they kind of shoot themselves in the foot
• 32:24
  with these labor issues. But I'm sure you can expect
• 32:27
  something of a lockout once the season ends.
• 32:30
  Whether they, you know, they'll miss games next year remains to
• 32:32
  be seen. You know, would be foolish if if
• 32:35
  they, you know, have to delay the season with like they did a
• 32:38
  number of years ago. So we'll see where it goes.
• 32:40
  Both, you know, sides are accumulating what they're
• 32:43
  calling a war chest, you know, just in case the games are
• 32:46
  missed. So, you know, obviously teams
• 32:49
  are preparing. You know, look, Conor Griffin
• 32:52
  signed a a deal with the Pirates.
• 32:54
  You know, they probably, you know, offered that deal with the
• 32:57
  idea that there could be a lockout at some point or a cap,
• 33:01
  you know, this way they have them under wraps.
• 33:03
  So you know these labor issues are going to haunt the sport
• 33:07
  throughout the year, especially as they get toward the end.
• 33:10
  We are talking a 27 year MLB official scorer, Howie Carpin.
• 33:14
  Q. We we got him on mute over
• 33:17
  there. Yeah, yes, Sir.
• 33:19
  Now, so that with the Mets, so give me your insight in regards
• 33:23
  to where you think they are. You think they're still trying
• 33:26
  to figure it out or you think that this team can make a run
• 33:28
  later in the season. Well, they they have to, you
• 33:30
  know, see it's only 12 games in again, you know, that season is
• 33:34
  so long, Quentin. I don't think you can really get
• 33:37
  a gauge on any team until about 40 games in right now.
• 33:41
  They're OK. I mean, they're getting their
• 33:43
  starting pitching is improved from last year.
• 33:45
  They're getting bullpen from the end from Luke Weaver and Devin
• 33:49
  Williams have both been pretty good up to this point.
• 33:52
  You know, Luis Robert Junior at this point is working out.
• 33:55
  So some of the moves they've made have panned out.
• 33:58
  You know, again, as we spoke about with Arrow before, you
• 34:01
  know, the corner infield, whether that's going to be a
• 34:04
  hindrance or a positive, you know, remains to be seen.
• 34:07
  Again, you got to you got to give it at least until 40 games
• 34:10
  to see to really get an identity of what the team's going to be.
• 34:14
  They have a lot of talent. They should be, you know, at
• 34:16
  least in contention for first place and they should make the
• 34:20
  playoffs. If they don't, you know it's
• 34:22
  going to be a very disappointing season.
• 34:24
  All right, Howie, you've been to a lot of different ballparks,
• 34:27
  all right? I'm sure you've tasted you've
• 34:30
  tasted the hot dogs, the sausage and Peppers.
• 34:33
  What is your favorite food at the ballpark?
• 34:36
  Chicken fingers. OK, which is your favorite
• 34:39
  chicken fingers? Who has the best chicken fingers
• 34:41
  here in the major leagues? Well, I only sample them in the
• 34:45
  press room because, you know, I get spoiled.
• 34:47
  I figured. It's not.
• 34:49
  It's not free, but I don't sample the regular stuff outside
• 34:52
  of the concessions. So they.
• 34:54
  They treat you might have to put, you know, I've only been
• 34:56
  really at Citi Field and Yankee Stadium over the past few years
• 35:00
  and both are pretty good. I will say this, the carvel at
• 35:05
  Citi Field is so much better than Yankee Stadium.
• 35:08
  I don't know what it it's like. I don't know if they put milk in
• 35:12
  the car. The, the, the ice cream over
• 35:14
  there at Yankee Stadium. Every time I go to Yankee
• 35:16
  Stadium, I love my ice cream. Every time I eat, I can't even
• 35:19
  finish it. When I go to when I go to Citi
• 35:21
  Field, I and I absolutely I love it.
• 35:24
  I get a lot, I get a load of sprinkles, some strawberry
• 35:26
  topping. Now.
• 35:28
  What is your favorite beer at the stadium?
• 35:31
  Do you drink at the stadium? No, I can't when I'm working.
• 35:35
  Oh, stop. I mean, you just slip.
• 35:38
  One, you know, Bud have to do my job.
• 35:40
  I can't sit there and drink beer and put my feet up on the
• 35:43
  streets. Well, this guy likes to drink.
• 35:45
  Speedy loves to drink. He tests all the apple ciders
• 35:48
  and all that other stuff. I'm not a drinker.
• 35:50
  I don't drink any. Oh, there you go.
• 35:52
  Joe Girardi. I'm sure he's drinking too.
• 35:54
  He's I would be drinking after what the Yankees did to him.
• 35:57
  But anyway, before we let you go, my friend, and by the way,
• 36:01
  one more time, we are talking to 27 year MLB official scorer
• 36:05
  Howie Carpen. He's been on our show.
• 36:06
  We really appreciate at the last minute coming on because
• 36:09
  somebody decided, Dominique easily decided that he couldn't
• 36:12
  make the show. So we really appreciate you
• 36:14
  joining us. You look at the leak, OK, and,
• 36:19
  and the Braves right now, it's still early in the season.
• 36:21
  We're looking at some of these teams and I, I thought the
• 36:24
  Braves, I think the Braves are going to win the National League
• 36:27
  East. I I called it before the season
• 36:29
  started. I think the Braves are a lot
• 36:30
  better than people say they are. Is there a team, a surprise team
• 36:33
  right now in the majors that can make a run all the way to the
• 36:38
  World Series this year that you see so far?
• 36:40
  It's early in the season. We understand that.
• 36:42
  But when you look at the rosters and you look at some of these
• 36:45
  teams and, and in the the divisions that they're in, who
• 36:48
  do you think could be the surprise this year going to the
• 36:51
  World Series? Well, it's going to be hard to
• 36:53
  knock off the Dodgers in the NL, but I think you have to look at
• 36:56
  maybe Miami and Cincinnati, really Miami, the Reds have
• 36:59
  pretty good pitching, you know, and they they have a team that
• 37:03
  that's have a terrific manager in Terry Francona in the
• 37:07
  American League. You know, it's right now it's
• 37:10
  wide open. I mean, you still got to
• 37:11
  consider Seattle because of their pitching.
• 37:14
  You know, Texas has played well up to this point.
• 37:17
  I don't think anybody Detroit's kind of dangerous, but they're
• 37:20
  up and down. I don't know if you saw what
• 37:22
  happened today. There was a big collision in the
• 37:24
  outfield with Riley Green and Parker Meadows and they had to
• 37:28
  carry Parker Meadows off the off the field, I think in a
• 37:31
  stretcher. So that could be a key injury
• 37:34
  for Detroit and school Bulls not pitching that great.
• 37:37
  So far he's been OK. So, you know, I, I think you
• 37:41
  know that the surprise teams could be in the National League.
• 37:44
  I got my eye on the Marlins. I think they're going to be
• 37:46
  pesky. I think they're going to be a
• 37:47
  pain in the neck. I don't know if they can make
• 37:49
  the World Series, but I think they'll make some noise in the
• 37:52
  National League. I got the Diamondbacks.
• 37:54
  I think the Diamondbacks are going to be really, really good
• 37:56
  this year. When they start to, it starts to
• 37:58
  get warmer for them and they start to travel and get that
• 38:01
  lineup going. I think they're really, really
• 38:03
  good. I've I've been telling you,
• 38:05
  Speedy, I think the Diamondbacks and then you keep saying the
• 38:07
  Dodgers and yeah, the Dodgers are good and you like to give
• 38:10
  them all the compliments in the world.
• 38:11
  This deferred money crap has to go.
• 38:14
  Something needs to be done with the Dodgers.
• 38:16
  It makes me sick to my stomach that that every time they, they
• 38:19
  get every single player, they absolutely want this deferred
• 38:21
  money. They the Kyle Tucker contract is
• 38:24
  he can opt out of his contract after two.
• 38:26
  It's just ridiculous how everything works and some of
• 38:29
  these guys, Ohtani doesn't have to get paid until 12 years from
• 38:32
  now. He's making two or $3,000,000
• 38:35
  right now from the Dodgers organization and he's making
• 38:37
  $100 million in endorsements. It makes me sick to my stomach.
• 38:40
  I don't like it. It's pathetic.
• 38:42
  You can love it. All you baseball fans can make
• 38:45
  all the excuses. Well, everybody else can do it.
• 38:47
  Nobody can do it the way the Dodgers have done it because
• 38:49
  they have everybody working In Sync with each other.
• 38:52
  It makes me sick. All right?
• 38:54
  Sick. I had to throw that to you, man.
• 38:57
  Anyways, Howie, we really appreciate the time.
• 39:00
  I know I probably made you sick after that take, but you know
• 39:03
  that that's what happens, man. When you come on the show.
• 39:05
  It could go all over the place. And you know, thank God I'm not
• 39:09
  throwing up after having kidney stones last weekend, I was
• 39:12
  throwing up. I must have threw up like 7 or 8
• 39:14
  times before I got out of the hospital.
• 39:16
  So kidney stones. Have you ever had kidney stones,
• 39:18
  Howie? Yeah, I have.
• 39:19
  Oh man, they're horrible, man. It's.
• 39:21
  Brutal. It's brutal, man.
• 39:23
  You're running and they need to tell your girlfriend to drive
• 39:25
  you there. And she's like, I, I was working
• 39:28
  for 13 hours last night and she drives me over there and I'm,
• 39:31
  I'm trying to keep myself, I'm trying to grab things, I'm
• 39:33
  punching the car, trying to get myself all ready to walk into
• 39:37
  the hospital. And then when you walk through
• 39:38
  the damn hospital, the emergency emergency room, what does the
• 39:41
  doctor, what does the nurse say? Oh, you got to wait.
• 39:44
  So you're sitting there in pain, throwing up in a little bag that
• 39:47
  they gave you. And by the time you get to the
• 39:49
  doctor and the doctor's laughing because I'm telling him give me
• 39:51
  some morphine, give me something.
• 39:53
  So that's the truth, man. It's horrible anyways.
• 39:56
  How are you? Yeah.
• 39:59
  Dude, I, I, she had to. Could you imagine your
• 40:02
  girlfriend? You're, you're a strong tough
• 40:04
  guy and your girlfriend asks the security guard to bring a
• 40:08
  wheelchair out to the car because you can't even walk into
• 40:12
  the emergency room. How embarrassing is that?
• 40:15
  A big tough guy like me and she's like, yeah, you need
• 40:17
  somebody to push him in. It's.
• 40:19
  Embarrassing. That's what the hospital is
• 40:21
  there for, man. You don't go there when you're
• 40:23
  strong. It's embarrassing, man.
• 40:25
  It was embarrassing. And then when you're walking in
• 40:27
  there, when you're rolling in there, you're asking for a
• 40:31
  couple of bags because you're going to be throwing up all over
• 40:33
  the place. True story.
• 40:34
  By the way, Howie, we really appreciate your time, man.
• 40:37
  Go Yankees, man. And this ABS crap that baseball
• 40:42
  has, get rid of it. Get rid of it.
• 40:44
  Howie, what are we doing here? We need to figure this out.
• 40:46
  You're stuck man. They're not getting rid of it.
• 40:49
  Oh, well, you know, I'll tell you what we're doing.
• 40:51
  Make me the commissioner and I'll get rid of it.
• 40:53
  You know, there it is, right over there.
• 40:55
  I appreciate you. How are you?
• 40:57
  Great, keep up all the great work.
• 40:59
  How we will get you on as by the way, 40 games and we're getting
• 41:02
  you on because when when 40 games get closer, I'm going to
• 41:06
  tell you Bob Bouchette's hitting 222 what's going on?
• 41:08
  How we what's going on? He's.
• 41:10
  Being stifled by this amazing Marlins team, that's going to be
• 41:13
  in the end of. This Howie, I do.
• 41:15
  I just, I do not believe Bob Bouchette is going to hit 300
• 41:18
  this year. I'm just telling you, I don't
• 41:20
  even think he's hitting two. Ways we'll see.
• 41:21
  We'll see. How we carpin.
• 41:23
  He's telling me. He's telling me 40 games, this
• 41:26
  guy's going to figure it out. I beg to differ, but hey.
• 41:30
  I'm praying Howie's rights. Listen, if it is true, I, I'm
• 41:32
  going to when we go to I'll go to a ball game with you and I'll
• 41:35
  buy you your what? Your chicken fingers.
• 41:37
  OK, I'll get you your, your box of chicken fingers.
• 41:39
  All right, that's a that's a deal.
• 41:41
  And if I win, you got to take me to Shake a Shack because I, I, I
• 41:45
  don't want to go to Yankee Stadium because I don't have
• 41:46
  Shake Shack. Let's go, let's go to Citi
• 41:49
  Fields. We'll enjoy a nice ball game and
• 41:51
  I get to enjoy a nice Shake Shack.
• 41:52
  I love the hamburgers over there.
• 41:54
  Just. Absolutely have any wagers, so
• 41:58
  can't have any wagers. All right.
• 42:00
  So you need to read the Policy Broker.
• 42:02
  I work for MLB, you know, I got to watch myself, yeah.
• 42:05
  I always shot a check, it might get a good job.
• 42:07
  You might get suspended indefinitely like all those
• 42:09
  minor leaguers did. I get suspended every single
• 42:12
  time I look. Anyways, thank you, Howie for
• 42:14
  joining us. You're fantastic.
• 42:16
  We'll talk to you soon, buddy. All right, you guys take care.
• 42:19
  Howie Carpin, man, fantastic, great personality.
• 42:23
  You know, I wasn't expecting to interview him tonight.
• 42:26
  I really wasn't. But to have him come on at the
• 42:28
  last minute, it's sensational and we really appreciate it
• 42:31
  because it's not easy just to jump on and and talk baseball
• 42:35
  and well, it's easy for him. Maybe not easy for us.
• 42:37
  Anyways, thank you to him. All right, ladies and gentlemen,
• 42:40
  we call this call your shot. I'm not an X's and O's guy,
• 42:44
  right? I'm not a tactician.
• 42:45
  I'm a motivator in the classic sense of the word.
• 42:47
  You know, Lombardi, Charles Lindbergh, that nun over in
• 42:50
  India, like those people call your shot.
• 42:57
  Wonderful, wonderful guest, just a wonderful personality.
• 43:02
  Our man Howie Carpet is all right, ladies and gentlemen, how
• 43:06
  do we do this? Well, what we're going to do is
• 43:08
  we're going to call our shots. We're going to tell you
• 43:10
  something we believe is going to happen in sports, and then we'll
• 43:15
  we'll tell you, you know, we'll call our shot.
• 43:17
  All right, So we're going to go with Speedy first.
• 43:21
  We'll go with Fish. We'll go to Quentin, we'll go to
• 43:23
  me. Here we go, all.
• 43:24
  Right, so I'm going to kind of follow up on the last thing.
• 43:27
  In our concrete jungle carousel, we talk about the Devils getting
• 43:29
  rid of Tom Fitzgerald. I do believe they will fire
• 43:32
  Sheldon Keefe as well as their head coach.
• 43:34
  And the Devils have always had a pattern.
• 43:35
  They go for a young coach, then a veteran coach, then a young
• 43:38
  coach, then a veteran coach. So I mentioned I called my shot
• 43:41
  on Peter Laviolette, ex Rangers coach to the LA Kings next year
• 43:45
  to join with our Tammy Panarin. I believe another Rate ex
• 43:48
  Rangers coach Gerard Galatz will get back into coaching and he
• 43:51
  will be the next New Jersey Devils head coach.
• 43:54
  Wow. I don't know if that's going to
• 43:57
  happen, but I guess he's going to try to hit all of them.
• 43:59
  That's a good point, Speedy. I'm going to stay with hockey
• 44:02
  for my call, my shot, Call your shot.
• 44:06
  I'm going to say who's going to win the Stanley Cup barrel.
• 44:08
  I've figured it out. I've been looking at all the
• 44:10
  numbers. I've been in the lab the.
• 44:13
  Giants, the Giants are just excited to do the Giants and.
• 44:16
  The Giants don't play, don't play hockey.
• 44:18
  If they did, they'd win. Let's face it, you know Abdul
• 44:22
  Carter would skate circles around all these guys.
• 44:24
  I figured. You know it's the best, but the
• 44:26
  team, the. Rangers are going to give us a
• 44:27
  big contract. They might as well at this
• 44:30
  point, but I think it's the place that I used to live that
• 44:34
  used to win championships when I was there.
• 44:36
  The Tampa Bay Lightning that are going to win the Stanley Cup
• 44:39
  this year. They have probably the guy who's
• 44:42
  going to come in second for the Hart Trophy, Mr. Nikita Kucherov
• 44:46
  and they have Vasileski who's having another Vesna.
• 44:48
  He's probably going to be a finalist for the Vesna could win
• 44:51
  it type season. They have the second most goals
• 44:55
  per game at 3.5, second seven, and 3rd fewest against at 2.77.
• 45:02
  They have the second most goal differential in the entire
• 45:05
  league. They're better than everyone in
• 45:07
  the Eastern Conference in my opinion, and I think if anything
• 45:10
  trips up the Avalanche along the way.
• 45:12
  I think the Lightning handle anyone else.
• 45:14
  Otherwise, I think we're treated to one of the best 7 game series
• 45:17
  we'll ever have. The Lightning and the Avalanche.
• 45:20
  Now I'm still going with Vasi and the boys in Tampa.
• 45:24
  I got some pages tonight. New York Jets would make the
• 45:27
  playoff land by your QB, one Gino Smith.
• 45:31
  The Promised Land. Not to the Championship, but to
• 45:34
  the players. Hold on one second.
• 45:38
  Right there. Hold on one second.
• 45:39
  There we go, you said. You said that The Jets have so
• 45:42
  many weaknesses in their defense.
• 45:44
  All of a sudden they're making the playoffs.
• 45:46
  They're going to make the playoffs.
• 45:47
  I guess it was going to be pretty.
• 45:48
  They're going to make the first. They're going, it's going,
• 45:50
  they're going to make the. Playoffs wrong.
• 45:52
  They're going to get not that first round, but the worst part
• 45:56
  about that is it's going to mess up the opportunities.
• 45:59
  Of course, of course, of course you would say something.
• 46:02
  Like that, it's what we have to do, it's what we do.
• 46:06
  This is looking for all the positives of the ways he could
• 46:08
  downgrade The Jets. I don't have to do much work on
• 46:12
  that one. My call your shot is for Cinco
• 46:15
  de Mayo as the big cruiserweight fight is coming right up.
• 46:20
  I can't wait for it. David Benavidez versus Gilberto
• 46:23
  Ramirez. This is going to be a big fight
• 46:26
  and right now the cruiserweight champion of the world is Gilbert
• 46:29
  Ramirez. I know Oscar De La Hoya is
• 46:31
  promoting it and everybody can't wait for it.
• 46:34
  I don't think this is even going to be a fight.
• 46:36
  David Benavidez is going to knockout Gilberto Ramirez in the
• 46:42
  seventh round. That is my prediction, ladies
• 46:44
  and gentlemen. Ramirez is a great fighter, but
• 46:47
  Benavidez is to me, I think he's the best fighter in the world
• 46:51
  right now. He's moving up a weight class
• 46:53
  because nobody wants to fight this guy.
• 46:55
  So he's moving up 15 lbs to fight Ramirez and I think he's
• 46:59
  going to knock Ramirez out in the seventh round.
• 47:02
  So that is my call your shots. By the way, I'm a big Benavidez
• 47:08
  fan, so I'm I'm looking forward to this fight.
• 47:11
  A lot of boxing fans are looking forward to this fight.
• 47:13
  I'll tell you this, Oscar De La Hoya is going to win himself.
• 47:16
  He's going to make himself a lot of money after promoting this
• 47:19
  fight. I think it's a it's going to be
• 47:20
  an up and coming. Everybody's looking forward to
• 47:23
  Cinco de Mayo. Every Cinco de Mayo, it, it's,
• 47:26
  there's always a big boxing fight and this fight is to me is
• 47:31
  a fight that everybody's looking forward to.
• 47:33
  ESPN reports that Doc Rivers on March 2nd, following a blowout
• 47:38
  loss against the Bulls, called a team meeting that led him to
• 47:43
  losing the locker room. ESPN also verified that A at at
• 47:48
  least 6 Bucks players mentioned that they were done with Doc
• 47:52
  Rivers after that night. His most embarrassing statement
• 47:56
  was telling the Bucks players to look at his resume and even
• 48:01
  stole the line Google Me made famous by Indiana football coach
• 48:07
  Kurt Signetti last year. Rivers also called out Kyle
• 48:11
  Kuzma for his mistakes in recent games and even show video
• 48:16
  displays of what Kuzma did wrong, leading him to being a
• 48:21
  healthy scratch in several games after Kuzma tried to speak up.
• 48:26
  Bobby Porter's also called out the Bucks for having no urgency
• 48:31
  under Doc Rivers following a 45 point loss to the Nets in
• 48:36
  December. These problems led to Giannis
• 48:39
  mentioning 2 two different times that he wanted to be traded this
• 48:44
  season, which is something he never did in previous years.
• 48:48
  According to his agent, Doc had a 96 and one O 1 regular season
• 48:54
  record and a three and eight playoff record in almost three
• 48:58
  years with the Bucks. And reports say he is.
• 49:01
  I'm sorry. He is as good as gone and the
• 49:05
  Bucks have already started searching for his replacement.
• 49:10
  Doc Rivers right now is moving towards Hall of Fame status.
• 49:15
  He's going to the Hall of Fame, so of course he likes to brag
• 49:19
  about what he has done in the past.
• 49:21
  And I know and cute. Just let me finish before you
• 49:24
  cut in and. Give me your take.
• 49:27
  On his Boston run, OK, The fact here is everywhere this man has
• 49:33
  gone, he has failed to win except one time.
• 49:37
  One time he went to the Clippers and the Clippers were a good
• 49:40
  team, good regular season team. He had Chris Paul and a bunch of
• 49:45
  great talent around him. He had Lob City there.
• 49:48
  This team was one of the elite teams in the Western Conference.
• 49:51
  They go to the playoffs and they can't even make the Easter.
• 49:54
  They can't even make the Western Conference finals.
• 49:57
  This team had all that talent they had, I think if I'm not
• 50:00
  mistaken, at least two of those years they had the 6th man of
• 50:04
  the year on that roster and they still still couldn't go to
• 50:08
  Western Conference finals. The problem here is, is Doc
• 50:11
  Rivers is not a winning coach. He never was.
• 50:14
  Yes, he won with a great team, with the Celtics, a great team.
• 50:18
  Kevin Garnett is one of the best power forwards of all time.
• 50:21
  You could argue you one of the top 3 greatest power forwards of
• 50:24
  all time. And then you have Paul Pierce.
• 50:28
  We all know what he calls himself the truth.
• 50:30
  Ray Allen, one of the greatest 3 point shooters of all time.
• 50:33
  Rajon Rondo at a young as a as a young point guard, one of the
• 50:37
  bigger and talented young point guards, rebounders, defensive
• 50:40
  players at his position. That team was born to win.
• 50:44
  I don't think you need Doc Rivers to win a championship in
• 50:47
  those years. I mean, the leader that you have
• 50:49
  with Paul Pierce, Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett, I don't think you
• 50:52
  can argue that team had a tremendous amount of talent to
• 50:56
  win championships, championships.
• 50:58
  They only won one. When I look at the Bucks, he was
• 51:03
  given the Bucks team and and by the way he he took over for this
• 51:07
  team when they're a winning team, they were a winning or
• 51:10
  they were, I think if I'm not mistaken, they won 35 games that
• 51:14
  year. I think they were 35 and 20 and
• 51:16
  they fired their coach and they brought Doc Rivers in because
• 51:19
  they thought Doc Rivers would make that team that much better
• 51:23
  and he made that team that much worse.
• 51:26
  This guy, and I'll say this again, he does not know how to
• 51:29
  develop players. He's never developed players in
• 51:33
  any year of his coaching. Now you want to say that he went
• 51:36
  to the Clippers and he developed players?
• 51:38
  Not really. Chris Paul was a developed
• 51:40
  player. That team had all developed
• 51:42
  players on that roster. I don't have the roster in front
• 51:45
  of me, but I can tell you right now, three out of the seven
• 51:49
  start seven players that he rotated in that rotation.
• 51:52
  Three of them were All Stars for at least two of the years.
• 51:57
  To me, when I think of Doc Rivers, it's not championship
• 52:01
  coach, Hall of Famer. To me, he's one of the most
• 52:05
  overrated coaches in NBA history.
• 52:08
  And that's the fact. I I don't think he was a great
• 52:10
  basketball player. He wasn't.
• 52:12
  He played for the next a couple of years speedy.
• 52:13
  You can laugh and giggle all you want.
• 52:15
  I'm off of your queue. He wasn't.
• 52:17
  He wasn't his His career average as an NBA player was, what, 11
• 52:22
  points? He's not a good NBA player.
• 52:25
  Jeff Horn. Jeff Horn, Jeff Hornacek was a
• 52:28
  better player than Doc Rivers was as a basketball player.
• 52:31
  He was on the Utah Jazz. He was better.
• 52:36
  And if you look at the facts of this story, that nobody likes
• 52:40
  him in the locker room, right? We're at right now with
• 52:42
  Milwaukee. One of the main reasons why
• 52:44
  Giannis wants to get the hell out of there was Doc Rivers.
• 52:47
  Doc Rivers has not helped the organization get better.
• 52:50
  He's got, to me, he's made the organization worse.
• 52:53
  And then he thought by coming in there and taking over a veteran
• 52:57
  team that he can take this team to the promised land.
• 53:00
  This team has not been the same team in almost five years.
• 53:04
  They fired a coach that won him a championship.
• 53:07
  They fired a coach after one bad season.
• 53:12
  And then they bring in another coach who was doing pretty good
• 53:15
  for him. And then they fire him because
• 53:17
  he couldn't get along with some of the young players on the
• 53:19
  roster. The fact here is, is Doc Rivers
• 53:24
  is a cancer. He's a cancer now.
• 53:28
  What he did with Boston. If every every Boston fan wants
• 53:31
  to say that Doc Rivers was the one of the main reasons why they
• 53:34
  won a championship, fine. Give them all the credit in the
• 53:36
  world. They should have won multiple
• 53:38
  championships with that team, multiple championships with that
• 53:42
  team. The fact that they won one is
• 53:44
  disgraceful. Disgraceful.
• 53:46
  They were handed, they were handed Kevin Garnett.
• 53:49
  They were handed Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen.
• 53:51
  I mean, I don't know what a what a debacle that was.
• 53:55
  He was traded over there. Did he was traded or signed of
• 53:58
  it? I don't even remember, but I
• 54:00
  think Ray Allen was there before Kevin Garnett.
• 54:02
  Was there? Yeah, No, it was in the draft.
• 54:05
  Like they got him in the draft, but yeah.
• 54:06
  Who? Who Ray?
• 54:07
  Allen, they traded it. They traded for Ray Allen.
• 54:09
  Yeah, so Ray Allen was there before Kevin Garnett was there.
• 54:13
  So this team was put together to win championships.
• 54:18
  And and again, when I look at Doc Rivers in his career,
• 54:22
  everywhere he's gone, he's gone to good teams.
• 54:25
  Think about it. I mean, when he took over from
• 54:27
  Milwaukee, Milwaukee wasn't, they weren't a championship team
• 54:29
  anymore, but they had championship players and they
• 54:32
  thought that he was the missing piece.
• 54:33
  He would take them to the promised land.
• 54:35
  Again, everywhere he's gone, he has failed to do so.
• 54:39
  When he went to the 76ers, how many players couldn't stand Doc
• 54:42
  Rivers? Joella beat, couldn't stand
• 54:44
  them. Nobody could stand him.
• 54:48
  Nobody. I mean, the practices that he
• 54:50
  was holding, some of his players couldn't stand.
• 54:52
  They couldn't stand each other because of him, because he was
• 54:55
  playing sides. Doc Rivers problem over his
• 54:59
  career is he doesn't know how to coach stars.
• 55:02
  He really doesn't. He's got he's got stars coaching
• 55:05
  him. Think about it.
• 55:07
  Kevin Garnett was calling the defensive plays when they won
• 55:11
  that championship that year. He was calling the plays in the
• 55:14
  huddle. He was him and Tom Thibodeau.
• 55:18
  He was the anchor, not Doc Rivers.
• 55:20
  Doc Rivers was just sitting there or standing there with his
• 55:23
  arm crossed like this. Doc Rivers is to me not a team
• 55:28
  leader. He is not a great coach.
• 55:29
  Even his son, one of the most overrated Duke Blue Devils of
• 55:32
  all time. OK, one of the most overrated
• 55:36
  Duke Blue Devils of all time. What did he do with the Duke
• 55:38
  Blue Devils? Nothing.
• 55:39
  They lost in the first round of Lehigh.
• 55:41
  Nothing. And he sat there at every single
• 55:44
  game watching his son bragging about how great his son was
• 55:46
  going to be in the NBA. How bad was he in the NBA?
• 55:49
  Oh, I know he went to LA Clippers because his father was
• 55:51
  coaching that and. It was a first round pick when
• 55:53
  he never should have been anywhere close.
• 55:54
  The fact here is Kyle Kuzma is a veteran player.
• 55:58
  Kyle Kuzma, when he came into the league, I remember he was
• 56:01
  playing for the Nets. He was a pretty good net.
• 56:03
  He was pretty good with Washington.
• 56:06
  He's bounced around a couple of teams.
• 56:08
  His his game is to me broken. He's not a great defender, but
• 56:12
  he, he's got a good, a decent offensive game.
• 56:14
  He can rebound for his size and he could score.
• 56:17
  He he, he can give you a 1516 points a game if if you have
• 56:20
  them in your offense. The fact and Kyle Kuzma is very
• 56:23
  liked by the players, Giannis, Bobby Porter, they all are very
• 56:27
  close with Kyle Kuzma. And when you're hearing stories
• 56:31
  that they're having team meetings and he's going out
• 56:34
  there and saying, oh, what did he say?
• 56:37
  Google me. Look how famous I am.
• 56:40
  Look at what I've done. Go Google you.
• 56:42
  You shouldn't be a Hall of Famer.
• 56:44
  The fact that they're inducting you in the Hall of Fame.
• 56:46
  I've said it again on my story, Amari Stoudemire shouldn't be in
• 56:49
  the Hall of Fame. He shouldn't be in the Hall of
• 56:51
  Fame. The fact that everybody gets
• 56:53
  inducted into the Hall of Fame if you're half decent as a coach
• 56:56
  and a player is despicable and you want to know something.
• 56:59
  He should never get a coaching job again in the NBA.
• 57:02
  Honest to God he should never get a coaching job after
• 57:05
  Milwaukee parts ways with him. If you see where he has gone
• 57:09
  from one team to another, think about it.
• 57:11
  Look at the talented teams he's coached over the years.
• 57:14
  You won 1 championship as a coach, 1 championship with those
• 57:19
  Clipper teams. The even the 76ers.
• 57:22
  The 76ers were to me. They were built to win.
• 57:26
  They were a once in one year and they lost to.
• 57:27
  Atlanta, they were built to win, and you're choked because you
• 57:31
  can't win the big game. You don't have Tom Thibodeau as
• 57:34
  your defensive guy. Come on, guys.
• 57:36
  You really think that Doc Rivers is a Hall of Famer?
• 57:40
  Google me, I'll Google you and I'd put on on your Google
• 57:43
  profile. Suck, suck.
• 57:45
  Can't win the big game. You stink.
• 57:48
  Yeah, he inherited a team in the Clippers that already was a
• 57:50
  veteran team. Like you're right, he didn't
• 57:52
  develop a young star that was like a an.
• 57:54
  Older team developed a young *. Yeah, maybe again, maybe he took
• 57:57
  Blake Griffin to another level. I always did.
• 57:59
  Blake Griffin was already. Yeah, I was going to.
• 58:01
  Say the number. One pick he was, yeah, he he had
• 58:03
  a couple bad years in the game. Oklahoma.
• 58:05
  Yeah, I remember he had a couple bad years in the beginning of
• 58:07
  his career where he was demoted to the G League.
• 58:09
  And then he then he got elevated a little more, I think a couple
• 58:11
  years before Doc Rivers got there.
• 58:13
  Yeah. I'm going to say only a small
• 58:14
  upgrade you had like Hedo Turklu and Jamal Crawford.
• 58:17
  He won the slam dunk contest before Doc.
• 58:19
  Rivers even go. No, I know that.
• 58:21
  So you're inheriting that team and you go to the second round
• 58:25
  of the. Dude, he was a star.
• 58:26
  Before that. He jumped over a Hyundai
• 58:28
  Elantra. Everybody loved Blake Griffin.
• 58:30
  What made what made Doc Rivers? You know what made Blake Griffin
• 58:34
  better? Chris Paul.
• 58:36
  Yes. That's what made Blake Griffin
• 58:38
  better. Not Doc Rivers, everybody.
• 58:40
  Kevin Garnett made Doc Rivers a champion.
• 58:43
  Yeah. That's the truth.
• 58:43
  That's adventure, Chris. That's the truth.
• 58:45
  Chris Paul should have been a Laker, but obviously that trade
• 58:47
  got rescinded and then he ends up going to the Clippers later
• 58:50
  on. So he kind of lucked into that
• 58:51
  one. So then he doesn't even get to
• 58:53
  the Western Conference finals. They blow A31 lead against a
• 58:56
  Rockets team that was very new all at once, that they had more
• 58:58
  talent then. And they still can't even just
• 59:01
  win playoff games and really bad playoff losses too.
• 59:03
  Utah when Donald Mitchell was a young guy like a team said hey,
• 59:07
  no business losing to then you mentioned it with this Milwaukee
• 59:09
  Bucks team like Milwaukee got rid of Bootenholzer for whatever
• 59:13
  reason after they made no sense yeah they they lost an 8 seed
• 59:16
  Miami Heat team OK yeah you want to say that because.
• 59:19
  Who's better, Bootenholzer or Bootenholzer I love or Doc Riven
• 59:22
  I I don't care what you love. Who do you think is a better
• 59:24
  coach? Yeah, I love Bootenholzer.
• 59:26
  I was not disputing. That of course you would think
• 59:28
  Doc Riven. Because booty.
• 59:29
  Coached the Celtic. Bootenholzer had a very stable
• 59:31
  run with an Atlanta team that they don't care about
• 59:33
  basketball. There was thoughts with them
• 59:35
  selling the team, getting into arena for a while and they went
• 59:37
  to the playoffs pretty consistently.
• 59:38
  They went to the Eastern Conference finals and lost to
• 59:40
  LeBron and like everyone, everyone does that.
• 59:42
  That doesn't make all the Pacers coaches that they had there bad
• 59:45
  because they lost to LeBron. Like that was the same pace they
• 59:47
  were on. He goes to Milwaukee Bucks and
• 59:49
  they get to the Eastern Conference finals pretty
• 59:50
  quickly. Yeah, they blow it to Toronto,
• 59:52
  fine, but then they go back and then win the finals the next
• 59:55
  year and they get rid of them because they had one bad year
• 59:57
  losing to win at Miami Heat AC, which by the way made the NBA
• 1:00:00
  Finals that year. So it's clearly was not a fluke
• 1:00:03
  and since then? What did they do?
• 1:00:05
  They made an unconventional hire with Adrian Griffin.
• 1:00:07
  I didn't love you at the time, but like you said I only started
• 1:00:09
  35 and 12 or something like that.
• 1:00:11
  They had a winning record, there were 20 games over 500 and they
• 1:00:14
  fired him to Doc Rivers. Right.
• 1:00:17
  It made no sense for the time they lost.
• 1:00:18
  Like 8 games in a row with doc. Since then, it just got very
• 1:00:21
  unstable all at once. All right.
• 1:00:23
  Q go ahead that. Can't wait for this Carbon.
• 1:00:26
  Yeah, what a time it's about. Congratulate Doc Rivers again
• 1:00:29
  for making the Hall of Fame. I don't think he gets the credit
• 1:00:33
  that he deserves, especially not but now that I'm here, I'm
• 1:00:36
  definitely going to make sure that he get the credit that he's
• 1:00:38
  deserved. In regards to the topic at hand.
• 1:00:41
  I really don't see nothing wrong with that.
• 1:00:43
  Start hearing these rumors that's coming out of the locker
• 1:00:45
  room, players saying this, coaches saying this and whatnot.
• 1:00:48
  But in reality, when you look at Doc Rivers resume, he had every
• 1:00:52
  right he could. You know, he can get emotional
• 1:00:53
  and say Google me, this guy has won a championship.
• 1:00:56
  This guy's not and Hall of Fame inductee, I don't see why it's
• 1:01:01
  an issue when he get emotional and say hey Google me in regards
• 1:01:06
  to Kyle Kuzma. Kyle Kuzma try to stand up for
• 1:01:10
  someone and anytime you do that, the coaches are already made-up
• 1:01:13
  in his mind in regards to however he's feeling about that
• 1:01:16
  play or that player. So you taking the bat, taking
• 1:01:19
  the heat for them is not going to make your situation any
• 1:01:21
  better. If you have, if you have you
• 1:01:23
  been looking at Kyle Kuzma's play over the past few years, it
• 1:01:27
  has not been impressive. I mean, the guy just threw the
• 1:01:29
  ball completely over a wide open teammates head in the recent
• 1:01:35
  game. Whatever, just got beat by the
• 1:01:36
  Nets. He's not contributing.
• 1:01:38
  So listen, you're not you're not in a position to be taken up and
• 1:01:42
  being a leader in this thing. Bobby Porter's is obviously the
• 1:01:44
  leader in regards to that locker room.
• 1:01:48
  Yeah, I know, I, I get it. You you think that it got to be
• 1:01:52
  a superstar, you got to have all these stats and whatever, but it
• 1:01:54
  be the guys who are not as successful on the court that be
• 1:01:58
  the leaders in the locker room. I know you you don't believe
• 1:02:01
  that and you believe it's the guy that gets all the camera
• 1:02:03
  time. But at the end of the day,
• 1:02:05
  there's locker rules where the guy who doesn't get the most
• 1:02:07
  camera time actually is the leader within the within the
• 1:02:11
  locker room. In regards to Doc Rivers, I
• 1:02:13
  think you he did average of like 14 points or 17 points two years
• 1:02:18
  in the in the league. He also, he made an All Star one
• 1:02:21
  time, so he wasn't completely garbage, OK, All right.
• 1:02:23
  So he was compared to all this, all these superstars and all
• 1:02:27
  that, yes, but he did the All Star.
• 1:02:29
  Everybody don't make the All Star, OK?
• 1:02:31
  And everybody don't average 14 to 17 points when you go back.
• 1:02:34
  Everybody doesn't make the All Star.
• 1:02:35
  Please, not everybody so you can finish it off.
• 1:02:38
  So I just think it's just a, it's just an emotional case when
• 1:02:41
  somebody got, you know, some information in regards to what's
• 1:02:43
  going on in the locker room. They are a bad team, a bad
• 1:02:48
  organization right now. Oh yeah, they had that one time
• 1:02:50
  that they, you know, wanted. Just like the Celtics.
• 1:02:53
  One time, one time. No, we have actually.
• 1:02:55
  No. One time with Doc Rivers.
• 1:02:57
  One time. One time with the great.
• 1:02:59
  We have like 18 to. 19 that's that's not what I'm talking
• 1:03:03
  about. I am talking about.
• 1:03:04
  I am talking about. Way ahead of them.
• 1:03:06
  I am talking about Doc Rivers. He won one title, 1 championship
• 1:03:11
  buddy. One.
• 1:03:12
  That's all. And how many years that means?
• 1:03:14
  And how many? Years coaching.
• 1:03:15
  Coaching the NBA that don't you want to compare him to field?
• 1:03:20
  You don't realize that he stakes his head coach.
• 1:03:23
  This guy won a championship. That is the winner.
• 1:03:26
  Oh, I'm sorry, you mean you mean Kevin Garnett won a
• 1:03:29
  championship? That's what you mean.
• 1:03:31
  Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen won the championship.
• 1:03:36
  Yes, but but Chris Paul. What is he doing?
• 1:03:40
  Go there, go there, play. There mean talent play.
• 1:03:44
  Defense there. Win it, please, talent.
• 1:03:45
  Don't win it all the time, OK? Oh, it's a system.
• 1:03:50
  You need a system. OK.
• 1:03:52
  Let me talk, please, OK. You've talked.
• 1:03:54
  Enough, very patient. You've said enough patient with
• 1:03:56
  you. OK, Really patient.
• 1:03:58
  Very, very patient. I'm hearing enough of this
• 1:04:00
  garbage. Very patient with you.
• 1:04:02
  OK, Thank you. Now Doc Rivers is a coach is an
• 1:04:06
  old school coach, so he needs a more old school type team, Sir,
• 1:04:11
  I'm talking all right, veteran type team.
• 1:04:14
  Okay, so this is the reason why he's conflicted when it comes to
• 1:04:17
  these younger teams because they don't really want to adjust to
• 1:04:20
  that old school style type coaching that that he that he
• 1:04:24
  brings to the table. So I don't think that this is
• 1:04:27
  his last coaching job. First and foremost, I think he
• 1:04:30
  would being done to the Hall of Fame coming up soon, in the next
• 1:04:32
  couple of months or whatever, he'd be wearing a gold jacket
• 1:04:35
  that he did not pay for and or is an orange now it's like an
• 1:04:38
  orange jacket so that he did not pay for it.
• 1:04:41
  And I, I love that he's getting the credit that he deserved in
• 1:04:45
  regards to the Hall of Fame, but I do think that the media does a
• 1:04:49
  bad job and, and giving him credit in regards to who he has
• 1:04:53
  truly been as a coach and as a player.
• 1:04:55
  He's not the best and he's not maybe not top five, but he's
• 1:04:58
  been pretty consistent overall in his career all.
• 1:05:02
  Right. Are you done?
• 1:05:03
  Are you done? Because I want to throw
• 1:05:05
  something at you. This is how.
• 1:05:06
  This is how you know. This is how you know Doc Rivers
• 1:05:11
  is not that important to the league when they're they're
• 1:05:14
  giving him compliments of his awards.
• 1:05:16
  Eastern Conference Coach of the Month, Eastern Conference Coach
• 1:05:19
  of the Month, Eastern Conference Coach of the Month.
• 1:05:22
  How many? How many, how many times do we
• 1:05:24
  have to see him coach of the month to realize that the guy is
• 1:05:27
  not a great coach? Don't win that award.
• 1:05:30
  Not been a great. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
• 1:05:32
  It's it's isn't it a team sport? Isn't it?
• 1:05:35
  And to me, no, it's not a coach. Actually, actually, the NBA is
• 1:05:39
  not about the coach. It's about stars.
• 1:05:42
  That's what it's about. It's a players league, not about
• 1:05:46
  the coach. How many times have we seen bad
• 1:05:48
  teams win championships? How many I'm sorry bad coaches
• 1:05:51
  win. Championships.
• 1:05:53
  Bad coaches win championships. Doc Rivers won a championship,
• 1:05:56
  he said. He's a bad coach.
• 1:05:56
  I'm saying that bad coaches. Have won the championships.
• 1:05:59
  Bad coaches have won championships many, many times
• 1:06:02
  in the NBA. In the NBA.
• 1:06:04
  Without coaching, it just happened.
• 1:06:06
  If you have talent, yes. If you have talent, yeah.
• 1:06:09
  There are guys like Spall straight.
• 1:06:11
  He's a good coach. Pat Riley's a good coach.
• 1:06:13
  Yeah. But you, you want to tell me
• 1:06:15
  this? If you look at those, those
• 1:06:17
  great Laker teams, you're going to tell me they never win a
• 1:06:20
  championship without Pat Riley. They do that talent with that
• 1:06:24
  kind of talent. They're winning a championship
• 1:06:26
  with or without Pat Riley. Pat Riley gave him an edge, but
• 1:06:29
  they're winning the Showtime. Lakers.
• 1:06:32
  It's a player driven league. It is.
• 1:06:34
  It is a player driven league, the NBA.
• 1:06:37
  Out of all the sports, out of all the sports, the NBA is a
• 1:06:41
  player driven league. The NHL.
• 1:06:43
  You need, you need coaching, absolutely need coaching.
• 1:06:46
  Absolutely. Football.
• 1:06:47
  You need coaching. You do, you do MOB.
• 1:06:51
  I mean, you can argue. You more analytic driven.
• 1:06:54
  Now it is more analytic, but you need you need managers.
• 1:06:57
  But if you look at the sports, out of all the four big sports
• 1:07:00
  here in America, the one sport that you can point out that you
• 1:07:03
  can win championships without great coaching is the NBA.
• 1:07:08
  And and let's let's not hide behind it.
• 1:07:10
  It's the truth. And Doc Rivers is not a great
• 1:07:12
  coach. I don't know what you're
• 1:07:13
  watching. He is the Hall of Fame.
• 1:07:16
  He hasn't had problems. He hasn't.
• 1:07:18
  Had problems. Think about it, if he's just not
• 1:07:20
  a good coach. Think about it.
• 1:07:21
  Say hey. I don't like Doug Rivers and and
• 1:07:24
  then we'll accept. He is not a good coach.
• 1:07:27
  He's not a good coach when he got why?
• 1:07:28
  Does he have the nickname? He's not a doctor of anything.
• 1:07:33
  He's not a doctor of anything. I don't know, he's pretty pretty
• 1:07:36
  methodical as the formula of blown leads.
• 1:07:38
  The guy, he's not a doctor of anything.
• 1:07:40
  He's. A doctor of losing.
• 1:07:42
  Or player. He's a He's a doctorate of
• 1:07:44
  losing. That's what he is.
• 1:07:45
  He's a loser, That's what he is. He's not a born winner, Errol.
• 1:07:49
  He's not a winner. Guys, I got the answer for you
• 1:07:51
  here. Here's the answer.
• 1:07:53
  Doc Rivers is called Doc because when he joined the league he was
• 1:07:56
  wearing a Doctor JT shirt and they called him Doc.
• 1:08:00
  That's it. And it and it kind of ruined the
• 1:08:02
  name because honest to God, he's a doctor of losing, that's what.
• 1:08:05
  He is so in in in real life doctors is Dr. He's the guy
• 1:08:09
  stinks. Man, he stinks.
• 1:08:11
  He hasn't done anything that really to me, think about it.
• 1:08:16
  He left. He got he got fired by the
• 1:08:18
  Clippers after the fact that a lot of the players couldn't
• 1:08:21
  stand him. He goes to the Philadelphia
• 1:08:23
  76ers, the players can't stand him.
• 1:08:25
  Now he goes to Milwaukee, the players can't stand him.
• 1:08:28
  Do we see the pattern here? Do we notice where the pattern
• 1:08:30
  is going? He's not liked by the players.
• 1:08:33
  He's not a good coach if you're not like, but Lenny Wilkins,
• 1:08:37
  Lenny Wilkins was one of the greatest coaches of all time.
• 1:08:40
  Was he liked by the players when he when he coached the Hawks?
• 1:08:42
  Absolutely. He was there for how many years
• 1:08:45
  with the Hawks? The reason why he was there for
• 1:08:47
  such a long time because he's a great coach and that he's good
• 1:08:50
  with the players. Phil Jackson, he was great with
• 1:08:52
  the players him and I mean, nobody could get along with
• 1:08:55
  Dennis Rodman, but guess what Phil Jackson figured out?
• 1:08:58
  That great coaches could get along with Dennis Rodman.
• 1:09:00
  Yeah, when the last time that it was.
• 1:09:02
  Rivers, he can't get along with anybody, couldn't get along with
• 1:09:05
  his superstar, Joel Embiid. Him and Joel Embiid were going
• 1:09:07
  back and forth. How many players?
• 1:09:09
  How many players has he been arguing with on and off the
• 1:09:12
  basketball court? Story practice.
• 1:09:14
  The guy doesn't get along with anybody.
• 1:09:16
  How does that make him a good coach?
• 1:09:18
  How does that mean wins? No, the team wins.
• 1:09:22
  He doesn't win. The team wins you just why don't
• 1:09:25
  you give credit? What credit due?
• 1:09:28
  Why? Why won't you do that?
• 1:09:29
  You want, You want. Me to do that you just read off
• 1:09:31
  his awards. He's getting adopted to the hall
• 1:09:33
  of awards as a coach. He has a championship and you
• 1:09:37
  constantly just degraded man as if he has no part in any of this
• 1:09:41
  success. No.
• 1:09:42
  So they just LED people in the Hall of Fame with no with with
• 1:09:45
  no resume. There are a lot of guys in the
• 1:09:47
  end, especially in the NBA, that are in the Hall of Fame that
• 1:09:50
  shouldn't be there. Who?
• 1:09:52
  What do you mean, who you want me to pull out?
• 1:09:54
  Let's bring up the Hall of Fame. I'll point them out right now.
• 1:09:57
  NBA Hall of Fame, Speedy, give me the NBA Hall of Fame.
• 1:09:59
  Anybody have it? I will point out who shouldn't
• 1:10:02
  be in the Hall of Fame. You bring up the list.
• 1:10:04
  Based off based off what metric? Not just Earl, I'm.
• 1:10:07
  Going to tell you what metric? I'm a big NBA fan.
• 1:10:10
  You bring, you bring up, you give me, you give me players and
• 1:10:14
  I'll tell you if they're Hall of Farmers.
• 1:10:16
  I'll tell you if they're Hall of Farmers.
• 1:10:19
  Does anybody have it? It's speedy.
• 1:10:20
  Mr. types up 1,000,000 words, and then he can't even, he can't
• 1:10:24
  even figure it out. Does anybody have the NBA Hall
• 1:10:27
  of Fame? Right, Maurice Thatamar.
• 1:10:28
  Not a Hall of Famer. Does anybody else?
• 1:10:32
  Speedy, do you have it? We can't name a Turnbull.
• 1:10:34
  Not a Hall of Famer. Carmela, Anthony.
• 1:10:38
  Hall of Famer Dwight Howard. Dwight Howard's not a Hall of
• 1:10:40
  Famer. So.
• 1:10:42
  Dwight Howard's not a Hall of. Famer I got, I can't see his
• 1:10:45
  induct. It's too small.
• 1:10:47
  It's too small I I can't see. It you can't see that, Oh,
• 1:10:50
  that's bad for you. There it is now.
• 1:10:52
  I Chauncey Phillips, not a whole thing has been in the news.
• 1:10:54
  Not a Hall of Famer. We've got Vince Carter.
• 1:10:59
  Not a Hall of Famer. Vince Carter's got to be.
• 1:11:01
  Not a Hall of Famer, he only is the longevity.
• 1:11:04
  If you want to put him in the Hall of Fame because of his
• 1:11:06
  longevity, that's fine. But to me, one of the greatest
• 1:11:09
  players of all time and what he's done.
• 1:11:12
  Did Vince Carter ever win a championship?
• 1:11:14
  No, I don't think so. So there's a lot of.
• 1:11:15
  Not a Hall of Fame? Doesn't matter.
• 1:11:16
  Not a Hall of Famer. He was in a fan.
• 1:11:18
  He got a winner. Cup Championship.
• 1:11:20
  No, I'm just. Saying now you got a winner cup.
• 1:11:21
  Wait. With your longevity in the NBA
• 1:11:23
  for 20 something years, you got to win a championship.
• 1:11:25
  He didn't win a championship. Go.
• 1:11:26
  Ahead so when when you. Got to the house it don't.
• 1:11:28
  Matter, but when? Pau Gasol?
• 1:11:30
  I would say borderline 40. Parker.
• 1:11:32
  Tony Parker's Hall of Famer? Dwyane Wade?
• 1:11:34
  Yes. Tony Parker is a Hall of.
• 1:11:36
  Fame Tim Hardaway, our friend of the show.
• 1:11:38
  Hall of Fame, Yes. He brought it up before Chris
• 1:11:41
  Weber. No, Weber.
• 1:11:43
  No. Manu Ginobili.
• 1:11:45
  Yes, six man of the. Year in it, no.
• 1:11:49
  What for The International and the Championship 100% have to
• 1:11:52
  give it to him. He's a Hall of Famer for what he
• 1:11:54
  did as an international player. Here's a really.
• 1:11:56
  Of the team remembered. Tony KU coach.
• 1:11:58
  No Tony KU coach. No, let's talk about that.
• 1:12:00
  I have a great name here for you.
• 1:12:02
  He's right in the second guy on the top, Chris Bosh.
• 1:12:05
  Speaking. Of team player.
• 1:12:07
  No, not a Hall of Famer. That's on.
• 1:12:09
  That team. He's not he's not a Hall of
• 1:12:11
  Famer. What he's done in his career, he
• 1:12:13
  had to go to a championship team.
• 1:12:15
  He had to he had to be considered to be combined with
• 1:12:19
  Dwyane Wade and LeBron James to win his championship when he
• 1:12:22
  wished with Toronto. He had his better years with
• 1:12:24
  Toronto when he went to the Miami Heat.
• 1:12:27
  He to me, he wasn't even an important factor of why why they
• 1:12:31
  won those championships. Ray Allen was more important in
• 1:12:33
  certain one of those games than. He was because he hit a big set.
• 1:12:36
  Yeah, Ray Allen. This one.
• 1:12:37
  This one is wild to me. No, not a Hall of Famer.
• 1:12:40
  Vladi Divas if you want to talk about compiling.
• 1:12:43
  Not a Hall of Famer. Oh my God, compiling body hair.
• 1:12:48
  Jack Sikma is a classic Paul Westfall.
• 1:12:50
  Paul Pierce Did we do Paul Pierce?
• 1:12:52
  Yeah, we did. Pierce is a Hall of Famer.
• 1:12:54
  He's a Hall of. Famer.
• 1:12:54
  All right, here we go. We got Rayas guys that didn't
• 1:12:57
  win a championship. We got Grant Hill.
• 1:13:01
  Not a Hall of Famer. I agree with that.
• 1:13:03
  Injuries, but injuries. Again, we have to remember this
• 1:13:07
  is not the NBA Hall of Fame. This is the Naismith basketball.
• 1:13:11
  I got it. They're including college here.
• 1:13:12
  I got it. If you include college, I guess
• 1:13:14
  you can make the case for Grant Hill all.
• 1:13:16
  Right, I got it. Tracy McGrady.
• 1:13:18
  T Mac. No, not a no, Not a Hall of
• 1:13:21
  Famer. Jason Kidd.
• 1:13:23
  Hall of Famer, Yes. And Steve Nash, obviously, yes.
• 1:13:26
  I mean, we're not going to talk about the WNBA players.
• 1:13:30
  It's not really worth that discussion.
• 1:13:32
  They did it. Major reef, please.
• 1:13:36
  Please. Yao Ming.
• 1:13:38
  Not a hall of. Fame.
• 1:13:39
  Not a Hall of Fame, no. He he went in with Shaq in 20.
• 1:13:42
  He could never get up, get past that.
• 1:13:44
  And he, he how many years? Did he play he.
• 1:13:47
  Played eight years in the NBA. He shouldn't be a Hall.
• 1:13:49
  Of fame but again like the international game bringing
• 1:13:52
  China into it it's. Like one of the most.
• 1:13:54
  Important things, they have the CBA and everything.
• 1:13:57
  I would say the impact type of a guy, but I don't know that's 10
• 1:14:01
  years and you've named, I would say Errol about 10.
• 1:14:04
  There's there's a lot of guys in the NBA.
• 1:14:07
  JoJo White is a Hall of Famer, by the way.
• 1:14:09
  So for, for everybody that doesn't know who JoJo White, one
• 1:14:11
  of the greatest college players of all time, point guard.
• 1:14:14
  I remember JoJo, but I was, I wasn't alive when JoJo was
• 1:14:17
  dominant, but he was a great, great player.
• 1:14:21
  My, my thought here is, is the NBA's problem.
• 1:14:24
  The NFL doesn't do this. There are guys that should be in
• 1:14:27
  the Hall of Fame in the NFL that don't get into the Hall of Fame
• 1:14:29
  or get inducted into the Hall of Fame when they're dead.
• 1:14:32
  I mean it, it's ridiculous. Senior votes.
• 1:14:35
  It makes no sense. And even in the MLB, Barry, I
• 1:14:39
  don't care if he did steroids. Barry Bonds is a Hall of Famer.
• 1:14:43
  Roger Clemens is a Hall of Famer.
• 1:14:45
  They're Hall of Famers. Alex Rodriguez is a Hall of
• 1:14:48
  Famer. Stop with this garbage that
• 1:14:50
  they're not Hall of Famers. Yeah, they did.
• 1:14:51
  Sarah, you want to put an asterisk on their name, that's
• 1:14:54
  fine. They're Hall of Famers.
• 1:14:57
  So we sit here and and we look at all the sports, even in
• 1:15:00
  hockey, hockey. Look how long it took.
• 1:15:03
  I'm trying to remember, was it Pierre Turge?
• 1:15:07
  Pierre Turgeon should have been in the Hall of Fame years and
• 1:15:10
  years ago. It finally gets inducted in the
• 1:15:12
  Hall of Fame. It took him almost 20 years to
• 1:15:13
  get into the Hall of Fame. There are players that are not
• 1:15:16
  in the NHL Hall of Fame and it it makes no sense whatsoever.
• 1:15:20
  Makes no sense. I mean, Neil Smith is a Hall of
• 1:15:23
  Fame GM. He is a Hall of Fame GM.
• 1:15:27
  What he did for the Rangers, think about it.
• 1:15:29
  He made that Marc Messi a trade. He traded for Adam Graves.
• 1:15:32
  He was the one that drafted Sergei Zubov.
• 1:15:35
  He dread when you look at that team and how that team was
• 1:15:37
  built, that was that was that was him.
• 1:15:41
  So why isn't he in the Hall of Fame?
• 1:15:44
  But to me, it's a huge problem. John van Beesbruk, OK, now he is
• 1:15:49
  not in the Hall of Fame because of some of the things that he's
• 1:15:52
  done off the ice. But this guy is one of the
• 1:15:55
  greatest winning goal tenders in American history.
• 1:15:58
  He's not in the Hall of Fame. When I look at all the sports
• 1:16:02
  from top to bottom, the one that sticks out like a sore thumb,
• 1:16:06
  that guys that even though they were great, great players.
• 1:16:09
  I mean, Tracy McGrady is a great player.
• 1:16:10
  Dwight Howard was a great player.
• 1:16:13
  Vince Carter was a great player. Longevity was sensational.
• 1:16:16
  They're not Hall of Farmers. They're not.
• 1:16:19
  They're great players, just not Hall of Farmers when you're
• 1:16:22
  looking at greats. What's your what's your argument
• 1:16:25
  with Dwight Howard? He had to go to the Lakers at
• 1:16:30
  the tail end of his career to win a championship.
• 1:16:31
  He had to go to the yeah. And if he was so great second
• 1:16:34
  time, if he was so great of a player, why didn't he win with
• 1:16:38
  those Orlando Magic teams? Listen, you just said it's a
• 1:16:41
  team sport. Now you want to put it on the
• 1:16:44
  individual. It's either teams.
• 1:16:45
  He got paid a lot of money. He got paid a.
• 1:16:47
  Deep in the player of the year, he got them a.
• 1:16:49
  Champion. So what?
• 1:16:50
  Contest What Time? All Star One of the best centers
• 1:16:53
  that ever played a game. No, he wasn't.
• 1:16:55
  No, he was not one of the best centers of all time.
• 1:16:57
  No, he was not. No, he was not.
• 1:17:00
  How long? How long was his peak?
• 1:17:01
  Would you say speedy? How long was seven years?
• 1:17:04
  Seven years. Seven years so.
• 1:17:06
  How long do you need? To have 10-10 years as an 80.
• 1:17:10
  I say what? What?
• 1:17:11
  He went to the Lakers? Yeah, once he went to the
• 1:17:13
  Lakers, the. 1st 10 years as an elite player, yes.
• 1:17:16
  If you can, kill for seven. Years listen Hall of Fame OK,
• 1:17:19
  listen, you have to be my argument is if if you're you
• 1:17:25
  have to be in a 10 year span a top ten player in the league to
• 1:17:28
  be inducted into the Hall of Fame.
• 1:17:30
  That's that's the way did the best of the best the best of the
• 1:17:34
  best? No, it's not there.
• 1:17:35
  Michael Jordan was. LeBron James was.
• 1:17:37
  Kobe Bryant was. Tim Duncan was.
• 1:17:39
  You want me to go on and on. Charles Barkley was.
• 1:17:42
  You, you want to make it, Duncan was what?
• 1:17:44
  Tim Duncan was a top ten player in the league for 10 years,
• 1:17:47
  absolutely at at at a high level 100%.
• 1:17:50
  Carl Malone was. John Stockton was.
• 1:17:53
  Yes they were. Isaiah Thomas was.
• 1:17:55
  Tim Duncan was a top player for like well over a decade.
• 1:17:58
  Yes, he was only bad like the last year and a half when he was
• 1:18:01
  banged up. Dude, I'm going to tell you
• 1:18:03
  right now, if you want me to name players, I, I can't even.
• 1:18:06
  Magic Johnson was a top ten player for 10 years straight.
• 1:18:10
  He, he, Larry Bird was, I could go on and on and on.
• 1:18:13
  You're going to tell me Tracy Mcgraney in a 10 year span was a
• 1:18:16
  top ten player in the league? Not a chance.
• 1:18:18
  Vince Carter, no, he was great. Top ten.
• 1:18:20
  That's fine, but that's not my argument here.
• 1:18:22
  Grant Hill wasn't either. He wasn't a time.
• 1:18:25
  Grant Hill was great for five years, five years.
• 1:18:27
  I remember his first five years were amazing.
• 1:18:30
  They were calling him the next Michael Jordan.
• 1:18:31
  Then he had that ankle or or leg problem.
• 1:18:34
  He was never the same player. Heel problem.
• 1:18:36
  That was that's what it was. It was a heel problem.
• 1:18:39
  OK, if you go back, if I'm looking at top top players and
• 1:18:44
  I'm looking at the greatest of all time in their decade, I you
• 1:18:48
  have to be for 10 years span. Chris Paul is a Hall of Famer.
• 1:18:52
  He is a Hall of Famer. He was a top ten point guard in
• 1:18:55
  the league, a top ten player in the league for 10 years
• 1:18:58
  straight, easy. He was the best point guard in
• 1:19:00
  the league for at least seven or eight years.
• 1:19:03
  So my argument here is a lot of Dickembe Mutombo was a good
• 1:19:07
  player, Hall of Famer. Not a chance in hell, not a
• 1:19:11
  chance and may rest in peace. May rest in peace.
• 1:19:14
  You know my argument here is, and I know you laugh, the NBA
• 1:19:19
  just for some reason and ducks these guys into the Hall of Fame
• 1:19:22
  for some damn reason. I don't get it, Adam Silver,
• 1:19:25
  because it's a players league. It's the LJA, the LeBron James
• 1:19:28
  Association. And, and to me, LeBron James
• 1:19:31
  thinks he's the greatest player of all time when she's on drugs
• 1:19:33
  because he'll never beat out Michael Jordan, never will be.
• 1:19:36
  And he could sit there and and go on the SP awards and sit with
• 1:19:40
  his boyfriends and look Carmelo Anthony.
• 1:19:42
  He won't win more championships, he don't beat them out in
• 1:19:44
  scoring and some other things. Dude, when you have the
• 1:19:46
  longevity, when you play 20 something more, I mean.
• 1:19:49
  He's got to have at least 10 years to even be.
• 1:19:52
  Nobody's qualified for. Nobody's saying longevity works
• 1:19:55
  in his favor. Nobody's saying that LeBron
• 1:19:57
  James is in a Hall of Famer. He's a first ballot the Hall of
• 1:19:59
  Fame. I'm.
• 1:20:00
  Not saying I'm not saying that you are saying that, but I'm
• 1:20:02
  just saying you can't use that against him because he's still
• 1:20:04
  in. What I'm saying?
• 1:20:05
  The old conversation you can. What I'm saying about the GOAT
• 1:20:08
  when I'm talking about what Michael Jordan did and his time
• 1:20:12
  won't be touched by any of these guys, by any of these guys.
• 1:20:16
  I'm sorry. But it's, I mean, I'd say Bill
• 1:20:18
  Russell, you're better than my. Country except, except for AJ
• 1:20:21
  Debansa. Oh.
• 1:20:23
  Please, I'm just. Saying the same guy that
• 1:20:27
  couldn't make it out of the first round.
• 1:20:28
  My argument here, Q, is not that these guys weren't great
• 1:20:30
  players. I'm not saying that Dwight
• 1:20:32
  Howard wasn't a great player. He was a great player.
• 1:20:35
  He's. Just a Hall of Famer.
• 1:20:37
  Why wouldn't you give Bill Russell to go then instead of
• 1:20:39
  Michael Jordan? Bill Russell was a great
• 1:20:41
  defender. His all around game doesn't even
• 1:20:43
  touch Michael Jordan's. It's just, it's just a different
• 1:20:46
  game, don't you think? Dude, dude, LeBron is not a
• 1:20:50
  better defender than Michael Jordan was.
• 1:20:51
  Michael Jordan was a it was an all world defender.
• 1:20:55
  I wouldn't. Say that really, you would say
• 1:20:57
  that LeBron James couldn't touch Michael Jordan in his defensive
• 1:21:00
  skills? Couldn't touch him.
• 1:21:02
  Couldn't touch him. And as far as Michael Jordan,
• 1:21:06
  LeBron James wouldn't be LeBron James without Michael Jordan
• 1:21:09
  either. Would Kobe?
• 1:21:10
  Sorry, because they so. Emulated their games through
• 1:21:13
  Michael Jordan. It's totally two different
• 1:21:15
  players. Yes, they're two different.
• 1:21:16
  Yes, no question, they play two different.
• 1:21:18
  Positions you said he emulated now Kobe you, yes.
• 1:21:21
  But. LeBron No.
• 1:21:22
  LeBron James, when he came into the league and, and, and he
• 1:21:25
  said, who is his favorite player?
• 1:21:26
  Why do you wear #23 He says his game.
• 1:21:29
  He wanted to build his game as a bigger Michael Jordan.
• 1:21:31
  That's what he said, King, King LeBron.
• 1:21:35
  So he said it, not me. He's the one who told them when
• 1:21:38
  he was up there, when he got drowned, left it by the
• 1:21:40
  Cavaliers and everybody said, who's your favorite player?
• 1:21:43
  Michael Jordan. Who did you want to play like
• 1:21:45
  when you were a kid? Michael Jordan?
• 1:21:47
  What do you want me to say? I didn't say it.
• 1:21:49
  He said it. Did he emulate?
• 1:21:51
  You said he emulated his game. We can look at Kobe and see that
• 1:21:54
  he emulated his game. What part of Lebron's game is
• 1:21:57
  emulated by Michael? He didn't try it when he came
• 1:21:59
  into the league. He didn't try to do those fade
• 1:22:00
  away jumpers. He didn't try to do that.
• 1:22:02
  His game wasn't like that in the beginning of parts of his
• 1:22:05
  career. He had to change.
• 1:22:06
  His game, yes. He couldn't be like Michael
• 1:22:09
  Jordan because when he started, he couldn't go left for the
• 1:22:11
  first six years of his career. That's true too.
• 1:22:13
  But but I'll tell you the thing that I think makes Errol right
• 1:22:17
  in this argument. Queue, Michael Jordan was
• 1:22:20
  defensive Player of the year in 198788.
• 1:22:22
  Kobe and LeBron never won defensive player of the year.
• 1:22:25
  So yeah, that's. What I'm saying like.
• 1:22:27
  Hold on, hold on. I think, I think those.
• 1:22:31
  Here's an award. Here's award.
• 1:22:33
  I'm not saying he wasn't a great defender, but I'm just saying I
• 1:22:36
  do think his name and what he was doing for the league gave
• 1:22:40
  him an edge when it came down to it because we know there was
• 1:22:43
  from a lot of. Here's a Here's a Here's a
• 1:22:45
  statistic that nobody in the NBA, including LeBron James,
• 1:22:48
  would ever break. Michael Jordan won Defensive
• 1:22:51
  Player of the Year, MVP and A championship and was the
• 1:22:55
  championship MVP in one year. Nobody will ever do that.
• 1:22:59
  Ever. Michael Jordan did that one
• 1:23:01
  year. So beat that, buddy.
• 1:23:03
  Beat that. Tell me.
• 1:23:04
  Look, you're great. Le Bron James.
• 1:23:06
  Did he ever do that? I think it was first team all
• 1:23:08
  defense. Not a Le Bron James fan but I
• 1:23:11
  can recognize his good. The stuff that he does well game
• 1:23:15
  is totally opposite on my. Yes, When he came into the
• 1:23:18
  league, he tried to play like Michael Jordan.
• 1:23:20
  He eventually had. He did.
• 1:23:22
  He thought his. Game based off what film?
• 1:23:24
  What do you mean? What film did you watch him
• 1:23:26
  play? When he played for the Cavaliers
• 1:23:27
  in the beginning, he tried to play his game.
• 1:23:31
  His game, Yeah, yes, he did. He did.
• 1:23:32
  Fadeaway jumper. Michael Jordan was a three-point
• 1:23:34
  shooter. He wasn't.
• 1:23:36
  Everybody who did a fadeaway jumper.
• 1:23:37
  His game was again, he was a bigger and more athletically
• 1:23:41
  guy, athletic guy because for, for his size.
• 1:23:44
  But when he came into the league, he tried to and he he he
• 1:23:48
  came out and he said at the draft, you want to go back to
• 1:23:51
  the draft, go back to the draft and look, they said, who do you
• 1:23:54
  emulate your game after he said Michael Jordan.
• 1:23:58
  So you want to say that it wasn't like that after, after
• 1:24:00
  the fact, Yeah. He's not Michael Jordan.
• 1:24:02
  About somebody saying I'm like looking at the game, look at the
• 1:24:06
  players, look what he's doing. I get my favorite player could
• 1:24:10
  be whoever. It doesn't matter.
• 1:24:11
  What is your game showing if it ain't showing it?
• 1:24:15
  You just admire a guy. When you look at his game now,
• 1:24:18
  he's more of a Magic Johnson. I know what he is, dude.
• 1:24:20
  You. What do you think?
• 1:24:21
  I don't know basketball, right. OK, OK.
• 1:24:24
  But when he came into the league, when he came into the
• 1:24:26
  league, he played. He tried to have his game played
• 1:24:30
  like Michael Jordan. Go watch his game his first two
• 1:24:32
  seasons. And he wasn't the rookie of the
• 1:24:34
  year. His first year.
• 1:24:35
  Carmelo Anthony was just so you know, just so you.
• 1:24:39
  Want it? Yeah, he won because he was a
• 1:24:41
  he's LeBron James, Carmelo, Carmelo.
• 1:24:46
  Carmelo had better numbers than him.
• 1:24:47
  Carmelo and Carmelo Anthony had better.
• 1:24:49
  Numbers the award. They gave it because again.
• 1:24:53
  Again. Does Carmelo after they have a
• 1:24:55
  Rick of the Year award, do we are doing that?
• 1:24:57
  Go look at Carmelo Anthony's numbers to LeBron James.
• 1:25:00
  I rest my case. Go look.
• 1:25:01
  You want to match it out, go match it out, Mr. I Know It all.
• 1:25:04
  Obviously, it wasn't just. About I'm telling you right now,
• 1:25:07
  go look at Carmelo Anthony's numbers to LeBron James and you
• 1:25:10
  tell me who was better. Can you tell me who was better
• 1:25:13
  and LeBron? Don't tell me who was better.
• 1:25:15
  And tell me, is there a Rick of the Year award in there?
• 1:25:17
  You really think the future commissioner of the LeBron James
• 1:25:21
  would ever pick against himself for an award?
• 1:25:22
  Go look at he's got better hoodies though.
• 1:25:25
  Mellows got better numbers. He's working season better
• 1:25:28
  numbers. This is the first time.
• 1:25:30
  The hoodie is rookie. Year fish?
• 1:25:31
  Maybe you would. Want I'm greats in basketball
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  for sure like this is this was awesome.
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  I can't wait so we have the next one of these all time debates,
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  man. Thank you to all the fans on
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  Spotify and Apple video and audio.
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  You guys are fantastic. Downloading us.
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  We had 15,000 downloads yesterday over 2000 unique, so
• 1:25:51
  2000 new listeners listening to us on Spotify and Apple.
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  We really appreciate you guys over 40,000 impressions on the
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  video end of it. So thank you to all the fans
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  checking us out looking at and checking out all the fans in
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  Missouri too. I mean Missouri, Colorado,
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  Texas, North Carolina, so all the.
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  Fans. All the fans out there checking
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  out our stuff. We really appreciate you guys.
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  All the TikTok Instagrams and ex fans, New York sports loudmouth.
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  Thank you for all the fans that are tuning in checking out our
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  stuff. We're working on some new stuff
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  on Instagram and TikTok for for you guys to kind of see some of
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  the new stuff and the new takes that we have.
• 1:26:29
  So bear with us. All the YouTube channels that we
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  have, New York sports loudmouth and New York sports Loudmouth
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  New York, go check us out. We have now 103 followers on our
• 1:26:41
  new YouTube channel. So thank you to all the fans
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  checking us out, checking all our different, what do they call
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  them, Shorts, short stories. Yeah, So thank you to all the
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  fans doing that. Who do we have on next week
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  Speed? Nothing yet for I believe we're
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  doing Tuesday next week you mentioned.
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  Yes, we are doing Tuesday next week because Goody is coming out
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  and I got a doctor's appointment on Monday, so we're going to be
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  doing Tuesday and Thursday next week.
• 1:27:06
  For all the fans, nothing yet for Tuesday scheduled yet, but
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  for Thursday we have actually one of your former teammates, Q
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  former Seahawks, Houston Texans, Packers and New York Jets right
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  tackle Brano Giacamini. Brano.
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  Giacamini Say that sweetie, do that with like a little bit more
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  enthusiasm, Giacamini. No, you do it with like.
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  You have like Giacamini? No, like you're constipated,
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  Giacamini. All right, that's it.
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  Constipation. Giacamini.
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  Giacamini oopa oopa oopa like do that oopa oopa oopa like a Greek
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  oopa. Hey, shout out to Speedy for the
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  new cut too by the way guys, I know the fans can't wait to see
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  that so. There you go, he looks sexy and
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  hopefully he doesn't scare. Anyone.
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  Whoa, wait a minute. Yeah, the women.
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  The women might be flocking to him or running from him.
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  Another man just talking. Sexy can trim himself.
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  I don't care if Java so there. You go, ladies and gentlemen.
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  Anyways, I got to go. I'm tired, you know, I stood up
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  the whole show. You know, this is what happens
• 1:28:12
  when you have bad feet. Anyways.
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  Goodnight, farewell, goodbye. It is the worldwide sports radio
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  network.