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- 0:00OK, good morning. We are continuing some Simon kuf
- 0:03Saadi we are on. We're at Sif Yudkat OK to do
- 0:09Talia to right. We're gonna discuss with
- 0:12Khatamim here. Let's read Kevansh Khatamim
- 0:15Durabana. Now we already learned the whole
- 0:18din of khatam, right? You find the spot without any
- 0:22Hargasha. So it's all Durabana Mekeelin
- 0:25Bahim. So then we're more Makil than
- 0:29not. In other words, vitola bakkola
- 0:32var shiokhola lead lot. So anytime we see bleeding, even
- 0:37if it's on a white baggage, even if it's more than a grease, we
- 0:41say she's going to be Tahara. If there's any way to be told to
- 0:45assume it came from something else other than from Dom, from
- 0:50the McCord, that would make her that that that Mamaco would make
- 0:54her Tamaya. So we're going to assume
- 0:55whenever possible that's from somewhere else.
- 0:58Has to be reasonable. OK, how reasonable.
- 1:01It's OK, let's go on, Kate said. Now just remember, caveat, the
- 1:09next many CE theme are partially Lamisa, partially not anymore,
- 1:17right? Are are our behavior is a little
- 1:20bit different, not to mention we wear tight undergarments.
- 1:24So it changes the entire playing field for the Salaha, which we
- 1:27mentioned and let's read it inside Keitza shakhta behave
- 1:32makaya of. So she shakhta either any kind
- 1:37of a animal or a bird only to ask a biktamim or she dealt with
- 1:44something that gives stains, whether it's pain or blood or
- 1:48whatever. Oh, she yash right.
- 1:51Or she took care of a child who was bleeding.
- 1:53That can happen whatever it is. Oh yashwa betzad Hamid asking
- 1:58baham or she sat next to somebody who was dealing with
- 2:02such a situation. Oh, she Avra Bashuk Shalta Bahim
- 2:07or she went to a slaughterhouse or the the open market where
- 2:11there are well, they have they slaughter animals and we don't
- 2:16usually see this, but venin Saddam a big idea Tolebahen.
- 2:21So then if she sees actual blood, right, more than a
- 2:25grease, she says it's probably from one of these other things,
- 2:29right. It's not during her period, it's
- 2:31not during the vested. It's not when she expects it
- 2:34anyways. But bottom line, regular den of
- 2:36Ketta, anytime she has what to be tole on, we say she is an
- 2:42Utah hora afilo veshe shloka lokim zeh al zeb and imsafilo
- 2:48bittakhton tahora. So then even if she has, I don't
- 2:52know, we'll just call it 3 skirts or dresses, one on top of
- 2:55another and it's on the inner one.
- 2:57It can come from the floor and it can even even reach the inner
- 3:02skirts or slit, whatever you want to call it.
- 3:05And she's wearing a coat and a dress.
- 3:07We can say it can get it can come from there.
- 3:11OK, how's Evan Imsa feel a bit right.
- 3:14Even if she has no under underwear, we can still assume
- 3:17it came from the floor or from underneath.
- 3:19And she's tahara avala Ian Imsa al bisara anatola.
- 3:26But if that's if she finds the Ketchum on her on her on the
- 3:30clothing, if she finds it kept them on her skin.
- 3:34So we're that's a little different.
- 3:36We're more strict. We're not so likely to be told
- 3:39on something else. Ella imesh la maka begufa,
- 3:44unless she has some kind of a wound, she has a cut, she has
- 3:48something where that's also from her skin and it can and it's
- 3:52right. It's attached to her body.
- 3:53And so that's more likely to be from there.
- 3:56Then we assume it's more likely to be from a maka than it is
- 3:58from the makor. I was told about Philo al bisara
- 4:01inhuba Malcolm EF shar ladame la natef Michel.
- 4:06So as long as it's a reasonable scenario that the blood went, it
- 4:11could be, it could drip, it can. Whatever it is has to be in the
- 4:15same line of fire per SE, but it can even, you know, anyways, as
- 4:18long as it can get reasonable from the maca to the to the area
- 4:24on the skin where she found it. But we don't say that.
- 4:27Oh, maybe her hand touched it like it was on the back of her
- 4:31neck. We don't say their hand touched
- 4:33it. And then her hand afterwards
- 4:37took enough blood from there that she put it somewhere else
- 4:40and that it moved to there. That's that's the one thing we
- 4:42don't do. But if you need to repet, even
- 4:45if it starts to heal, even if Sharul al ET Galea, if it's
- 4:49possible that it's if it has like it has a little bit of a
- 4:53scab on it already, it's possible for it to open up and
- 4:58bleed from there. Lahotsi dam, I'd right you rub
- 5:01it hard enough or scrape it and then that scab can open up.
- 5:05We all know that's often possible until it's almost
- 5:08finished healing until the end stages.
- 5:11So then Toleba, you can assume that the bleeding came from
- 5:16there, the awful Pisha Akshav Allah Allah krum, even though
- 5:19now there's a scab over it, the inamit taftafit and we see it
- 5:24doesn't bleed from there. If it's possible to have that it
- 5:27opened and the blood from there Lithia ayan.
- 5:29But it's possible that it's, it got opened up, it bled and then
- 5:34it's sealed and you know, you can touch it with your finger,
- 5:37but it's not easy. You know, after a few minutes or
- 5:39an hour or whatever it is or a couple hours, it doesn't just
- 5:42lift up anymore. So anyway, anyways, that's the
- 5:45that's the principle and just a couple other modern day things
- 5:49that may I mentioned that I saw mentioned in the Piscay Tahara,
- 5:53but you can see others for him. Other examples where you can
- 5:56sometimes be tola eh Akula and say she's Tahara is if a woman
- 6:02shaves in the in the makoma Erva.
- 6:05So sometimes with the with the razor that can cause a maka.
- 6:08So that could be another thing to be tola on.
- 6:10She just shaved. If there's red urine she sees
- 6:15sometimes after eating beets or whatever it is, that can cause
- 6:19red colors. I don't know, some kind of
- 6:22stomach, intestinal illness or hemorrhoids, anything that
- 6:25causes bleeding. If that's the situation, one has
- 6:29to just realize, you know, before you, you jump to say, oh,
- 6:31it's ketem, it's usser, perhaps it's from there.
- 6:35That's if just has to be the same type that's normal for her.
- 6:40Sometimes there's bleeding with another color discharge,
- 6:42sometimes there's not. This has to be what's logical.
- 6:47Sometimes not so common. I guess it depends on the
- 6:49quality, but you can have a patterned or a colored clothing,
- 6:53some white and some other red color.
- 6:55The dye can run. Anyways, whatever is it could be
- 6:58tolean. It could be tolean.
- 7:00OK let's go to your Tet shame Chitoleva kaktola bivnau ubala.
- 7:07Just like she can be tolla on herself dealing with blood
- 7:11issues, then you can tolla also she hangs around with her son or
- 7:17husband. Even Nitasku be telling if her
- 7:20son or husband we're dealing with any of these blood stains
- 7:24or whatever it is. Oh imesh baham maka or if they
- 7:27have a maka wound on their skin, lafisha darkum ligaba.
- 7:32Since it's normal for a wife or a mother to touch their spouse
- 7:38or their their child. So therefore we we could be even
- 7:43not only if she has a mock or has been with the blood, even if
- 7:45her if they were or whoever she's dealing with, right?
- 7:49However, she's dealing with people that she touches all the
- 7:52time or doesn't touch all the time.
- 7:53Usually not, but depends on the case of Emiya Suki and Badam
- 7:57right? So obviously a nurse, especially
- 8:00anyway, I am hayu Asukhi and Badam if they were dealing with
- 8:04blood, but LO nimza bahim dam ina tolabahim.
- 8:07But if they're not dealing with blood and there's no and they
- 8:10don't find any blood on them. So then you now, generally we
- 8:14say if there's even if it's a maka, though, you don't have to
- 8:17actually see blood as long as you know that they have a maka
- 8:19that could be opened up anyways, Ala Inka Nayu Asukhi and Badal
- 8:23version Darko Lintas or she they were dealing with something that
- 8:28can squirt blood to go on shrita.
- 8:30Right when you cut the even if you know they don't have any
- 8:34blood on them, but they were they did a shrita.
- 8:36That's normal for the blood to squirt.
- 8:37So then that can also be a reason Coyote say BA in any of
- 8:42these cases that you could think of, it's reasonable.
- 8:44We could be told of who I didn't IM shakba bemito nashim
- 8:48sheshalamakod begufan. Also, she sleeps on a bed with
- 8:52other women and they have a mock on their body.
- 8:57I'm totally behind Kamal bivna ubibala.
- 8:59Same thing. It's it's right.
- 9:00It's not a din me you had to the son and the husband.
- 9:02It's just that's what's more common.
- 9:06The other woman is a needa. Yeah.
- 9:10Then you could be told on that too.
- 9:12Sure. OK.
- 9:13Cough. OK.
- 9:16MI shiraguya latsate MI menu dam Derek P ha AMA.
- 9:21So if a man it's normal for him to see blood from his from his
- 9:26Xavier, so then it's so that's not normal, obviously, but it's
- 9:32right. It's not normal.
- 9:33But for him again, whatever that this is just the case, whatever
- 9:36is normal for him. We're not even we're talking not
- 9:39about you, not when he goes, you know, to urinates.
- 9:41It's just it's because he's not going to urinate inside his wife
- 9:45while they are together. Ubisha Tashmish.
- 9:48So now they're together. So it's normal for him to have
- 9:50bleeding and he's in his right during Tashmish Nimsa, but Eid
- 9:56hai ishadam and then she finds, when she does ebidika, she finds
- 10:01blood right then. So then tola bibala, she could
- 10:04even be tola Anabala as the beer gras quotes the rashbhaba en la
- 10:09hamaka gedola mizzo leitlod BA. We know you can be tola anamaka.
- 10:14So too you. We know the husband bleeds, so
- 10:16we could be tola. It's from the the husband,
- 10:20right? And again, just it could even as
- 10:23a piece of Cuba points out, not that these cases are common, but
- 10:27it could even happen in this case where a couple days later,
- 10:30if it's normal for her to have Shikhwat whatever for things to
- 10:33come out a couple days later is whatever is normal.
- 10:36You can still be tole on the husband for Dom, it's a couple
- 10:41days later, whatever is normal for this for this woman,
- 10:45whatever is reasonable. OK, then we could be tole if OK,
- 10:49let's go to kafala. Hey ika the ashka khatam bishi
- 10:53puleo mehreya umaka ICA mikame Talia BA the ashka de yatva hak
- 11:00de batra atela kame venatva miyahimaka.
- 11:04So a woman she has a a khatam. She finds it on the back of her
- 11:09clothing, but the maca is on the front of the clothing.
- 11:13So then we still say we could be toler because when she's it's it
- 11:19all depends on the matsias. If it's possible that when she
- 11:23sits down at the outskill, when she sits down, so then the the
- 11:30clothing and that's in on her back moves around to the front
- 11:34and it can reach it. And it all depends on the type
- 11:37of clothing that the person has. If it's possible for the
- 11:40clothing to move around and reach it or bend and listen,
- 11:44twist, whatever is possible. Even if they bend over and sit,
- 11:48we discussed, then we can be totally on that If it's
- 11:51impossible. So then we just say that's not
- 11:54reasonable. Yeah, he's quoting us.
- 11:56OK. The rival Rd. isn't probably in
- 11:58RMA. I don't know.
- 11:58I don't know. Cuff base.
- 12:00Sorry. Safik in avra Beshukh Sholta
- 12:03Bakhim. So now she's not sure if she
- 12:07passed the Shukh Sholta Bakhim, right?
- 12:09The marketplace where they have slaughters, Oh IM Yashva now
- 12:13it's loved off because slaughter is if you go to a marketplace
- 12:16and the meat or the fish is all is bloody.
- 12:18So that's the same. It's it all depends what's
- 12:21reasonable. Oh IM Yashva Bitsad Hamid
- 12:24asking, Hey, but if it's everything is OK anyway and if
- 12:27she sits next to these those right.
- 12:31So the case over here is it's a Suffolk in that situation, or
- 12:35she's right with people who deal with Tamim with any kind of red
- 12:38stains, Ina told Ibrahim she cannot be.
- 12:43Since it's a Suffolk, she cannot assume it's from there.
- 12:46Bah medvari memoriam by Irsha TA Bahim Amit Azimuth, Tam Yoshima,
- 12:51Malcolm Edua. That's if they have their
- 12:54stationary store, they have their place.
- 12:57Nowadays that's usually how it is.
- 12:59They have their place. So there was no way for them to
- 13:02come to her. She would have to pass by and be
- 13:05next to them. So in order to be tole, she
- 13:09would have to know that at least she went there.
- 13:12So at least then there's a chance about Imdarko MIT Asik
- 13:15convicon. But if they move around, you
- 13:18know, they they have a little their store is a little wagon
- 13:22and they go from street corner to street corner or one day
- 13:26here, one day there, whatever it is, whatever is reasonable about
- 13:29Imdarko MIT Asik convicon Tolin. Then you could she could we
- 13:34could assume it's from them. Even though she didn't go there.
- 13:37She doesn't remember going next to them because they can.
- 13:39They could have come to her by feeling me Suffolk, even if it's
- 13:42a Suffolk Shamma need to ask about Malcolm.
- 13:45She Avra villa here Gisha and maybe there she they were next
- 13:49to her and she didn't quite realize.
- 13:51OK, Puff Gilman need to ask Abedavar Edom.
- 13:55She was dealing with Adam, right?
- 14:00Adam, of course. So she was dealing with red, the
- 14:03Nimza Alea Ketem Shahor. So we kept saying, well, she was
- 14:07need to ask Bakhtani if she was dealing with whatever.
- 14:11So, so it depends. It has to be the same color.
- 14:14Let's say we're going to assume two different colors and they're
- 14:17both a mare of Tamaya. We're going to assume two colors
- 14:21generally black and red, but we assume our Dom, but they're two
- 14:28different colors. So the point is blood change can
- 14:31change a little bit and become more black.
- 14:33But if we act if but as far as being told on dealing with, you
- 14:39want to be told that it wasn't her Dom, it was let's say an
- 14:43animal or paint red paint red paint's not going to change.
- 14:46But anyways, for this concept of being Tola Lahacquel, so we say
- 14:51it has to be the similar, relatively similar color, right?
- 14:55But if one is red and one is black, that's too that's too
- 14:58much. That's then we say it's not
- 15:00reasonable. Oh, ibka, the opposite, right?
- 15:03Black and red the opposite ain't tolling both.
- 15:06Then we cannot be told the meddwar memoriam.
- 15:09When do we say that Adom Bashar, Bashar be adom.
- 15:12That's with red and black adom whatever aval adom BA adom.
- 15:18But if it's red and a red, but it's still a little bit
- 15:20different red, the shakur, the shakur black and black a little
- 15:24bit a little bit different. I feel in Eno Nikar Mama shadow
- 15:27mellow, even though it doesn't quite look the same.
- 15:31All right, you can't tell that it's coming from the same.
- 15:34You can still be told about you could be because could go on.
- 15:37She can ask Abimei Tilton, Abimei Bassar Bikilor Adom Kzat
- 15:43or any kind of red, whether it's and whatever the red's coming
- 15:47from. But it's a little bit, it's a
- 15:49little bit different or it's also like watered down a little
- 15:52bit, a little bit. Anyways, tola Bo ha Adam, you
- 15:55can just say, well, it's close enough.
- 15:58It's the same family of colors. And we know she dealt with it.
- 16:02She was touching with it, she walked by it.
- 16:04And therefore we could be tola lahaka OK kaftala NIT ascar
- 16:11paternagola tola Bo adom V shahor V kharkomi lafish Adam
- 16:15shrita Adam vidam ivera shahor vidam vinaya kharkomi.
- 16:20So if she was dealing with chickens.
- 16:23So just like a chicken has different colors, different
- 16:28shades of blood. So therefore, as long as any one
- 16:33of them can match, then it it works.
- 16:35So then we can be told so the OK cough.
- 16:39Hey, stay in Ashim. You have two women shenid asko.
- 16:45This is an interesting case. Two women shenid asko.
- 16:48But Sipore Echad, they are both dealing with one chicken, right?
- 16:52We're trying to use one bird. We're trying to use this bird or
- 16:56chicken, whatever it is to be tolle, right?
- 16:59Chickens are bigger. So we're using a small bird for
- 17:01this case. And we're using the blood of
- 17:04this bird to say, well, the blood that's on her clothing,
- 17:08Mistama is from the bird and not from her, not from the Domicor.
- 17:13So the problem is there's two women who dealt with one.
- 17:17They're trying to use the same 1 bird that they dealt with to be
- 17:20Tolla, but there's Shane Bodum, Ella Casella.
- 17:25But there's only enough blood that can come out of this bird.
- 17:28The amount of acella, whatever that is, it's the size of a
- 17:34coin. I think you're saying it was.
- 17:35It's thick. It's thick enough to be for two.
- 17:37I don't think we do that. I don't be Mccalla can say Bain
- 17:41la cula, Bain la kerma. We don't look at 1 area and say
- 17:44well, you know, if you could slice it thin enough, we can
- 17:47replicate it. If a ketam is smaller than a
- 17:50grease, we don't say, well, it's thick enough, maybe in every
- 17:54direction. I've I haven't heard of anyone
- 17:56doing that. I think it means the the area.
- 17:59Anyways, let's read the example. Shain Bodam, Ella Casella.
- 18:03There's only enough area for one cella, right?
- 18:06And it's obviously we're talking about more than a grease venimza
- 18:10alcohat casella. But each woman has a sela of
- 18:16blood on her. The full amount that's on the
- 18:19essentially the point is we have a case.
- 18:22We want to be tola on one bird, but it's not possible that both
- 18:27women came from this one bird. And we have no other birds or
- 18:31any other shook or any other situation to be tola.
- 18:34So what do we do? We have no choice but to say
- 18:36well, like every other Kasich had done, my stomach came from
- 18:40her since it's more than degrees and there's not enough here to
- 18:43be told and tooth. So what's the halacha Shitehan
- 18:46tamayo? Do we say both of them are
- 18:49tamaya now this happens to be an interesting discussion.
- 18:53Mokhokastaz and Shah, the Shah and the Bach both hold the case.
- 18:58We say they're both tamay only if they ask at the same time
- 19:03because there's no way to turn. We know for sure 1:00 we we know
- 19:07there is there. We all see them.
- 19:09It's the situation. And we can't just discard and
- 19:12say everyone's taller because there's only one to use and you
- 19:15can't pick. So you have to end up by saying
- 19:18both are to males. The taz holds if one comes after
- 19:24another. So when the first lady comes and
- 19:27asks the rabbi, he could say she's he.
- 19:30We say she is Tahara and then when the second lady comes and
- 19:34the rabbi goes oh, oh, Oh my gosh.
- 19:37And then he has to call the other lady and tell them both
- 19:40that they're to male. That's the that's how the tazler
- 19:44and said Kochikane. If they come at the same time,
- 19:46anyway, they're Michael Lucas had to deal with Tosos had to
- 19:48deal with these issues. And we have this interesting
- 19:51issue come up a few times. We had it with Paso Bukhalo and
- 19:53every case is a little bit different, but had to deal with
- 19:57it. OK, let's go on to Kaf Vav.
- 20:04You'd ask of Badam she E after she a man with Khatam.
- 20:08I like a Greece. So there's no way you're dealing
- 20:11with a situation and she it can't be that this Khatam one
- 20:18second. How do you read this?
- 20:20She dealt with it and there's only enough for one grease and
- 20:24she has two greasing on her her raise it tola.
- 20:28KE Greece badam shint ask about UK Greece BEMA Colette inside
- 20:35Quetta mutera missione Greece in Timaea.
- 20:39So then the halacha was like this.
- 20:41Basically you you didn't have more than it's right, because
- 20:44the sheer is Greece of ode to drop more than a Greece.
- 20:47If it's actually an exact Greece or less so, then she's Tahara
- 20:52that's with Keta. So here she dealt with it.
- 20:56So if there's any way to be told that one came from what she was
- 21:01dealing with, it's only the maximum amount that can come
- 21:04from what she was dealing with was one Greece, but there's
- 21:07still one more Greece. But we could be told that since
- 21:10that's in total, you can you can still say that one came one
- 21:15amount. One Greece came from a Maholet
- 21:18from the the lice. So Akina.
- 21:20So it's so, yeah. So you ended up you can add on
- 21:25to 1 what she was dealing with and Akina, which gives you an
- 21:29extra grease. So you have you can get a bigger
- 21:32shear than a grease and still end up Sahara, but you can only
- 21:37be. But since you can only be in
- 21:39your specific case, there was a maximum of how much she was
- 21:42dealing with that you can rely on.
- 21:45And the maximum of Akina is a grease.
- 21:47Exactly if it's any bigger than that.
- 21:50So then she ends up being Tamaya.
- 21:52I hope that was clear enough. The Asia Mahmirian Umatami
- 21:56Mccoset and the the Hamas says no.
- 21:59Once you're dealing in this case, some are Mahmar Mikomakom
- 22:03near the Asia Makhala Mikilian, the Katami Mahaka.
- 22:07But the Hamas says no, no, we stick with the Shah Khanaras the
- 22:09way we just explained, because even though it's a Mahokat,
- 22:11Katami and General are Dera Bannan and we are a Miko,
- 22:17Suffolk Duraban and the cool cops sign you Tasco Apache make
- 22:22a Greece, the name Saliac, a Greece, the ode.
- 22:24So she was dealing with less than a Greece.
- 22:26And then she finds on herself a Greece, the ode.
- 22:30She's still Tahara Shani, Omar Ketenzema, Esakatami, Mulkovar,
- 22:34Hayasham dhamaakhola perusha Dhama Kina, right?
- 22:37Mahola. Thinkina's the same thing.
- 22:39So she was dealing with let's say half a Greece and now she
- 22:43has a grease of oath on her. So we say half of it comes from
- 22:47what she was dealing with, half of it comes from the kina.
- 22:50She needs staref, a love that gets added to it.
- 22:54Very similar to the case of Kafag al Shahazar, Leo,
- 22:57Teramika, Greece until it's too big.
- 22:59Once it's bigger than a Greece. So then it becomes a problem.
- 23:05Even on the no. Usually if it's on the bizarre,
- 23:11it depends on the case. But usually when it's on
- 23:14bizarre, we're not so quick to be told on something.
- 23:16She was dealing with the maca. Yeah, but something else, unless
- 23:21it's on her and. And the skin and the clothing
- 23:24also. That's go back to what you read
- 23:28yesterday, I think. OK, fine.
- 23:33Yeah, I think so. I'll just the next line.
- 23:39Basically everyone deletes the Shah, the the the gras because
- 23:43it doesn't make sense to us. He writes Vaheni Niskala pako
- 23:47niska Grizin in Salya Kishne Grizin and the shokanura that I
- 23:52have says Tahora and that they had everyone says it should be
- 23:55Timaya. It's must be a tautsa Sofir
- 23:59because it's it's double. It's bigger than what it than
- 24:02than Akina. Whenever there is an unexplained
- 24:08right and you play time, it's more than an unexplained Greece.
- 24:11OK, right, Malcolm Ibn Taska badam veni odad bakama zina
- 24:18Nakula, right summer Malcolm. But again, we generally go
- 24:21Lakula for not sure if Anrina and Shahaya Badam Kishi or
- 24:25Hakata. And if we're not sure if it's
- 24:28more than a Greece or not. So we just go again Lakula and
- 24:31final stuff.