Latest / 360 with Katie Woolf / Member for Solomon Luke Gosling on the alleged drug scandal with one of his staffers, and national security as the Ukraine situation escalates
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Now we know that. Last week it was reported there's
- 0:03Speaker 1: a member of Luke Gosling's staff and the president of
- 0:06Speaker 1: Territory Labour's youth wing, resigned from his job after a
- 0:09Speaker 1: social media video surfaced showing him allegedly snorting a white substance. Now,
- 0:15Speaker 1: the video was reportedly posted to Snapchat last October and
- 0:18Speaker 1: shows the Northern Territory Young Labor president with this substance
- 0:22Speaker 1: on a table and then well appearing to snort it
- 0:26Speaker 1: through a fifty dollars zero. Now joining me on the
- 0:29Speaker 1: show is the member for Solomon, Luke Gosling. Good morning
- 0:32Speaker 1: to you, Luke.
- 0:33Speaker 2: Good morning Katie.
- 0:34Speaker 1: Now, Luke, it is understood that this video was shot
- 0:37Speaker 1: in October twenty twenty two months after the election, but
- 0:40Speaker 1: it was shared on this social media a year later.
- 0:43Speaker 1: At what point did you become aware that your staff
- 0:46Speaker 1: member was in this video allegedly with drugs?
- 0:50Speaker 3: When my chief of staff contacted me and said, well,
- 0:54Speaker 3: I was down in Canberra for sittings for the last
- 0:58Speaker 3: two weeks and said this had happened. But I want
- 1:01Speaker 3: to thank you Katie for not mentioning this young fellow's name.
- 1:04Speaker 3: I think he's already been dragged through the media enough
- 1:09Speaker 3: he offered me, apologized to me that this had sort
- 1:12Speaker 3: of happened, and offered to resign, and I accepted that resignation.
- 1:19Speaker 3: But I've been checking in with him to see if
- 1:22Speaker 3: he's a right caught up with him last night, and
- 1:25Speaker 3: you know, I think he's going to learn a lot
- 1:28Speaker 3: from these lessons and he needs to.
- 1:31Speaker 1: So, I mean, what was your reaction when you found out.
- 1:35Speaker 1: I would imagine that you were pretty disappointed.
- 1:38Speaker 3: Yeah, well, of course, you know, he's a very intelligent
- 1:43Speaker 3: and talented young man and he will go a long
- 1:46Speaker 3: way if he learns these lessons. And obviously it's disappointing
- 1:52Speaker 3: when a member of your staff in the media for
- 1:56Speaker 3: all the wrong reasons, when we're trying to talk about
- 1:59Speaker 3: all our positive plans for the future, and we had
- 2:02Speaker 3: elbow here on the weekend, We've there's been election commitments.
- 2:07Speaker 3: We've obviously trying to put a spotlight so that territory
- 2:10Speaker 3: ends can see what sort of what sort of wedging
- 2:17Speaker 3: sort of tactics that the federal government use in that
- 2:20Speaker 3: they announce a lot of stuff, never follow through and
- 2:23Speaker 3: then try and find ways to sort of divide and
- 2:25Speaker 3: split the community. So there's I've got some big responsibility.
- 2:28Speaker 3: So I was obviously a distraction and glad it's behind
- 2:32Speaker 3: us now.
- 2:32Speaker 1: So I just want to ask, is he still the
- 2:35Speaker 1: president of the Young Labor Party.
- 2:38Speaker 3: I don't know the answer to that question, Katie. I
- 2:41Speaker 3: don't get involved in the party issues to that extent,
- 2:45Speaker 3: as you would have heard other MPs say, we're incredibly
- 2:49Speaker 3: busy doing our job, which is to make sure that
- 2:52Speaker 3: the territory gets the best possible deal from from.
- 2:56Speaker 2: From Canberra and from from politics.
- 2:59Speaker 1: I guess, you know. I guess the thing is people
- 3:01Speaker 1: will be wondering, if he's no longer working in your office,
- 3:04Speaker 1: should he still be the president of Young Labor And
- 3:07Speaker 1: is it really you know, the what Young Labor wants
- 3:11Speaker 1: to present.
- 3:13Speaker 3: Yeah, and the party's working through that and their questions
- 3:15Speaker 3: you can put to them now.
- 3:16Speaker 1: You mentioned that obviously you met with him last night.
- 3:19Speaker 1: How is he going?
- 3:21Speaker 2: Yeah, I know he's going all right.
- 3:22Speaker 3: I think it's been a difficult time for him, but
- 3:27Speaker 3: you know, they're the consequences of his actions. He's got
- 3:30Speaker 3: to learn those lessons. And yeah, I think there's much
- 3:34Speaker 3: bigger things that we need to be talking about because
- 3:38Speaker 3: our country faces enormous challenges. Our economy faces enormous challenges.
- 3:43Speaker 3: We just had the Chamber of Commerce on talking about
- 3:45Speaker 3: jobs and need for jobs and need for investment. So
- 3:48Speaker 3: that's where my focus is and needs to be, and
- 3:51Speaker 3: the party will look after its own processes.
- 3:53Speaker 1: Luke, have you had to have a further look into
- 3:55Speaker 1: the way that you recruit staff for or you know,
- 3:59Speaker 1: how your starf for operate following on from this incident.
- 4:02Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously there's.
- 4:05Speaker 3: Reflection on when things like this happened about you know
- 4:08Speaker 3: what could have been us. But you know, when you
- 4:12Speaker 3: when you have someone who's highly recommended and obviously highly capable,
- 4:18Speaker 3: and you've been recommended by people that you that you respect,
- 4:23Speaker 3: and then something else comes out of the blue from
- 4:26Speaker 3: when someone was very young. We must also say not
- 4:29Speaker 3: to excuse the behavior, but all of these things just
- 4:36Speaker 3: come together into what has been a disappointment, but something
- 4:39Speaker 3: we're definitely moving on from because we've got a big job.
- 4:42Speaker 3: We've got a federal election coming up. The territory needs
- 4:45Speaker 3: more serious investment, not just more announcements by the government
- 4:50Speaker 3: that are never followed through on.
- 4:51Speaker 1: Well, look, Luke, I can tell I know that you're
- 4:53Speaker 1: obviously keen to talk about other things, but I do
- 4:56Speaker 1: want to ask, and I know that this is something
- 4:58Speaker 1: that the CLP has been questioning over the last couple
- 5:01Speaker 1: of weeks. Does the Labor Party have an issue with drugs? No, none, whatsoever.
- 5:10Speaker 2: No, Katie.
- 5:11Speaker 3: And obviously tomorrow there might be, you know, because someone
- 5:14Speaker 3: out there that wants to do the Chief Minister harm
- 5:16Speaker 3: has got another photo. But from what I know, from
- 5:22Speaker 3: what I've seen of the conduct of people in the party,
- 5:25Speaker 3: you've just got people who want to working people to
- 5:28Speaker 3: have a better deal. They want good health services, they
- 5:31Speaker 3: want jobs. You know, jobs is where it's at. And
- 5:34Speaker 3: I'll leave all the other politics and carry on to
- 5:37Speaker 3: others because I'm cracking on with the job, all right.
- 5:40Speaker 1: I do want to talk to you about an issue
- 5:42Speaker 1: which has certainly sort of you know, made headlines for
- 5:45Speaker 1: us over the last couple of weeks, and that is
- 5:47Speaker 1: some of the staffing concerns and also pressures on the
- 5:50Speaker 1: Northern territories hospitals. I know that last week obviously both
- 5:53Speaker 1: the Prime Minister and the Opposition leader we're in Darwin.
- 5:56Speaker 1: They're answering questions on the show about some of those issues. Look,
- 6:00Speaker 1: do we need additional funding for the Northern Territories hospitals
- 6:03Speaker 1: or do you think what we've got at the moment
- 6:05Speaker 1: is enough.
- 6:07Speaker 3: Yeah, the hospital is under pressure. Obviously we've had the
- 6:10Speaker 3: added difficulties that have come with with COVID, and you
- 6:15Speaker 3: know we need it to open up. And now that
- 6:17Speaker 3: we have, obviously there are people who are getting unwell.
- 6:21Speaker 3: Generally people aren't getting too unwell, which is obviously fantastic
- 6:24Speaker 3: and thanks to all the Territorians out there and the
- 6:27Speaker 3: health workers that have just done a sterling effort. You know,
- 6:31Speaker 3: if you're ever getting cranky about having a mask on
- 6:34Speaker 3: and it is annoying, but if you do get cranky
- 6:37Speaker 3: about that, just remember all those health professionals have had
- 6:40Speaker 3: all this ppe on and been wearing it for just
- 6:43Speaker 3: years now. So I want to give them a big
- 6:46Speaker 3: shout out. And yes, we do need more funding in
- 6:47Speaker 3: our health services and federal labor.
- 6:50Speaker 2: As everyone would know.
- 6:51Speaker 3: Not only do we back Medicare and stop it from
- 6:55Speaker 3: being torn down by the Tories by the Coalition, but
- 7:00Speaker 3: we haven't been Obviously, nine years we've been out of
- 7:03Speaker 3: office and there has been cuts to Medicare, but we'll
- 7:06Speaker 3: always protect Medicare, will make sure that our health and
- 7:08Speaker 3: hospitals system is funded. You'd remember, Caddy that I personally
- 7:12Speaker 3: got next to extra seventy million dollars for the Parmesan Hospital.
- 7:16Speaker 3: Kevin Rudd's government gave us a GP superclinic ad in
- 7:19Speaker 3: Parmeston and we're making sure there's good health services for
- 7:23Speaker 3: Aboriginal Territorians, Aboriginal medical services to make sure that they're
- 7:27Speaker 3: healthy and well and out of the hospital system.
- 7:30Speaker 1: Can we expect any further commitments from.
- 7:33Speaker 3: And that lead up to the election, Absolutely, there'll be
- 7:35Speaker 3: more to say. We've got to remember there's it's three
- 7:37Speaker 3: months until the election.
- 7:39Speaker 1: Well do we even have a date yet? Look clear
- 7:42Speaker 1: about it.
- 7:42Speaker 3: Yeah, we're in this pseudo campaign phase at the moment
- 7:46Speaker 3: where you know the Prime Minister Scott Morrison really has
- 7:50Speaker 3: failed on quarantine, failed on vaccines, failed on rats and
- 7:54Speaker 3: basically has meant that our community and I'm talking around
- 7:59Speaker 3: us Australia has been shut down. It's an enormous damage
- 8:04Speaker 3: to business as it's really hit the tourism ministry hard.
- 8:07Speaker 3: But now what he figures is if he pushes out
- 8:09Speaker 3: to the last possible minute he can call an election.
- 8:12Speaker 3: Something might happen in the meantime like a conflict or something.
- 8:16Speaker 3: You can well and see him ramping up the talk
- 8:19Speaker 3: about conflicts.
- 8:21Speaker 2: But what they do is they wedge.
- 8:24Speaker 3: They just find ways to divide people and that is
- 8:27Speaker 3: not leadership.
- 8:28Speaker 1: Well, we will wait and see exactly what data that
- 8:31Speaker 1: election is called Luke. Obviously all eyes are on Russia
- 8:34Speaker 1: and the Ukraine at the moment. National security it is
- 8:37Speaker 1: something that is it seems to be at the four
- 8:39Speaker 1: in Australia right now. We know over the weekend obviously
- 8:42Speaker 1: it was reported the Chinese Navy used a military grade
- 8:46Speaker 1: laser to attack a Royal Australian Air Force plane. Looke.
- 8:50Speaker 1: How do you see Darwin in all of this uncertainty.
- 8:53Speaker 1: Do you think that there is as much uncertainty or
- 8:56Speaker 1: do you feel as though it is something that's just
- 8:58Speaker 1: being ramped up by the PM.
- 9:00Speaker 3: Of course, there is great uncertainty in the world at
- 9:03Speaker 3: the moment. You've got two big powers, Russia and China,
- 9:07Speaker 3: who are more aggressive in their foreign policy than they
- 9:12Speaker 3: have been in terms of crimea and concerns about the
- 9:16Speaker 3: future of security in the South China Sea. I think
- 9:20Speaker 3: what I'm really impressed by is the way that we've
- 9:23Speaker 3: continued to and I'm talking about the heads of our
- 9:27Speaker 3: national security agencies continue to say to politicians and directly
- 9:32Speaker 3: to the Prime Minister, let's not split on national security
- 9:38Speaker 3: because the only people that that helps is our adversaries
- 9:42Speaker 3: or our potential adversaries. We need to be united as
- 9:45Speaker 3: a country because we do face big challenges and that
- 9:48Speaker 3: is why the Defense Force is separate from politics. They
- 9:52Speaker 3: do their job for Australia. So Elbows made that clear
- 9:56Speaker 3: when he was up here on the weekend. He actually
- 9:59Speaker 3: turned up to eightieth anniversary memorial services to the Peri,
- 10:03Speaker 3: unlike the Prime Minister. But I'm not going to get
- 10:06Speaker 3: focused on that. What I want the Prime Minister to
- 10:07Speaker 3: do is to probably for once in his career, lead
- 10:12Speaker 3: to show leadership instead of dividing the country and on
- 10:16Speaker 3: national security. The labor will always stand up for our
- 10:19Speaker 3: principles and our values and we'll make sure the Defense
- 10:22Speaker 3: Force has got enough budget and wherewithal to do its
- 10:26Speaker 3: job properly. But at the moment, Katie, we haven't got
- 10:28Speaker 3: submarines in ten years time and that's a disgrace.
- 10:33Speaker 1: Well, Luke Gosling, you can certainly tell there is an
- 10:35Speaker 1: election not too far away. Always good to catch up
- 10:37Speaker 1: with you. I really appreciate your time this morning.
- 10:40Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks Katie. Look forward to talking about other issues
- 10:42Speaker 3: another time.
- 10:43Speaker 1: Thank you.