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Under Anger, a Broken Heart · Mooney's Mythic Podcast

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  [music]
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  SPEAKER_01: Amelia Earhart
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  SPEAKER_01: has just taken off
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  SPEAKER_01: for the next leg of her flight.
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  [music]
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  SPEAKER_01: We carry a letter to whom it may concern,
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  SPEAKER_00: just in case the engines fail and
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  SPEAKER_01: we fall
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  SPEAKER_01: into the Arabian
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  [music]
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  SPEAKER_01: cannot read.
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  SPEAKER_00: That was the amazing Laurie Anderson out in the thermals there.
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  SPEAKER_00: She was talking about Amelia Earhart,
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  SPEAKER_00: who was the first woman to nonstop solo fly across the Atlantic.
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  SPEAKER_00: And just as I was listening to that,
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  SPEAKER_00: I was just,
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  SPEAKER_00: my arms are moving up and out and I was feeling about my own flight,
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  SPEAKER_00: about our own flights,
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  SPEAKER_00: how we've got this possibility to expand and expand and And dream and go to places
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  SPEAKER_00: that our grandmothers and our great grandmothers and our ancestors,
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  SPEAKER_00: they didn't dream of and they weren't able to.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we can be the first women,
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  SPEAKER_00: the first women in our line to reach places in ourselves,
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  SPEAKER_00: to reclaim places in ourselves that were not possible until we were born.
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  SPEAKER_00: But that's not why I played Laurie Anderson for you.
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  SPEAKER_00: I played Laurie Anderson because I went to see her.
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  SPEAKER_00: She's American, but let me tell you a little bit about her first.
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  SPEAKER_00: She's 79.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I don't say that in a,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: people sometimes say to me,
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  SPEAKER_00: oh, wow, you don't look it when I tell them how old I am.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's not a compliment.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like I am...
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  SPEAKER_00: I am, and I am, and I am, I am my age, and I am myself.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm not denying any moment of my life.
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  SPEAKER_00: She's 79.
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  SPEAKER_00: And she started off as a sculptor and violinist, I think.
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  SPEAKER_00: Wikipedia calls her an avant-garde artist, multimedia, language, technology, film.
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  SPEAKER_00: She's a storyteller.
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  SPEAKER_00: She's incredible.
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  SPEAKER_00: And watching a woman, yeah,
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  SPEAKER_00: who's that age,
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  SPEAKER_00: up on stage,
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  SPEAKER_00: so light, so curious, so talented, it was absolutely glorious to see her.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I nearly didn't get there because it was in Wales.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was at the Millennium Centre in Cardiff.
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  SPEAKER_00: And because it was in Wales, I've only been to Wales kind of to the countryside before.
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  SPEAKER_00: I didn't quite appreciate that if you're going into Cardiff at six o'clock at night,
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  SPEAKER_00: there's going to be a lot of traffic and that it's all quite busy and gritty and And
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  SPEAKER_00: by the time I got nearly there and I parked in a multi-story car park,
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  SPEAKER_00: felt like a right country bumpkin,
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  SPEAKER_00: I was absolutely dying for a piss and really, really stressed.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I saw these two women and I just kind of like panted after them and said,
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  SPEAKER_00: do you know where the Millennium Centre is?
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  SPEAKER_00: And they said, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And they just sort of flicked with their finger and pointed to the next building.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so then I sort of,
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  SPEAKER_00: they were quite tall and I was Still dying for a win, quite out of breath.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it was quite a lot to sort of keep pace with them.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, well, is that where you're going?
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  SPEAKER_00: And they said, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: I said, you're going to see Laurie Anderson?
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  SPEAKER_00: They were like, no.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, who are you going to see?
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  SPEAKER_00: I was just desperate to talk to them because they were really gorgeous.
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  SPEAKER_00: And they said, oh, we're going to see the Shovel Dance Collective.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, no way.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're my favourite band.
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  SPEAKER_00: And they looked at me like,
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  SPEAKER_01: yeah, no.
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  SPEAKER_00: I thought they were kind of thinking, she doesn't know who the Shovel Dance Collective is.
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  SPEAKER_00: She's just a nutter.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I qualified my statement by saying I've got a podcast and I've played them
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  SPEAKER_00: a couple of times on the podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, by the way, did I say that?
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  SPEAKER_00: You're listening to Mooney's Mythic Podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: Here I am to share with you the depth and delight of myth and how it can Maintain
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  SPEAKER_00: and magnify and glorify your life.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to, you know, introduce the pod better.
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  SPEAKER_00: As soon as I'm coming up to nearly 100 episodes,
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to be a bit, you know, a bit more something.
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  SPEAKER_00: Back to my story about being in Wales, following on to these gazelles, these beautiful women.
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  SPEAKER_00: And telling them I'd played the Shovel Dance Collective on my podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so they were like, ah, ah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And one of them said, are you Sarah Mooney?
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  SPEAKER_00: I was like, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, my inner child was so delighted to be recognised.
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  SPEAKER_00: They were like, oh, my girlfriend listens to your podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that.
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  SPEAKER_00: I can't tell you,
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  SPEAKER_00: like sometimes thank you,
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  SPEAKER_00: just thank you for the messages,
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  SPEAKER_00: for the support,
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  SPEAKER_00: for the keep going-ness of all of you when you do, when you get in touch.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's really, really something.
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  SPEAKER_00: And they wanted to take a picture of me, which I wish I'd met.
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  SPEAKER_00: I kind of pulled a funny face.
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  SPEAKER_00: I wish I'd met it with a bit more grace.
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  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, then I went for a wee.
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  SPEAKER_00: I went to see Laurie Anderson and she just...
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  SPEAKER_00: She was so good.
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  SPEAKER_00: Deep thinker,
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  SPEAKER_00: unafraid,
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  SPEAKER_00: deep thinker, heart, open,
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  SPEAKER_00: sharing and sharing and sharing,
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  SPEAKER_00: different layers, different thoughts that she's thinking on and working with.
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  SPEAKER_00: All her creativity of this show for about an hour and a half was really wonderful to me.
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  SPEAKER_00: She played video,
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  SPEAKER_00: she talked about her past,
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  SPEAKER_00: Her relationship with Lou Reed,
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  SPEAKER_00: she was married to Lou Reed,
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  SPEAKER_00: she talked about touring with the Beat Poets, lots of things.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the thing that I took with me was that she said,
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  SPEAKER_00: I think it was Pema Chodron she was quoting,
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  SPEAKER_00: had said that under anger there is always, always,
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  SPEAKER_00: always.
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  SPEAKER_00: Always a broken heart.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I've been with that quite a lot.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when my irritation,
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  SPEAKER_00: my anger,
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  SPEAKER_00: my slight tight jaw,
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  SPEAKER_00: my judgment,
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  SPEAKER_00: when those things come in for me,
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  SPEAKER_00: which have been happening a lot lately,
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  SPEAKER_00: which I think basically means I'm not getting enough sleep,
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  SPEAKER_00: but it's been happening a lot.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've been just asking myself, where's my broken heart?
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's like a magic spell.
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  SPEAKER_00: The other person just disappears and I can really feel the place
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  SPEAKER_00: in me that's calling for my attention.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'll talk a bit more about that later because I've been working with that in
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  SPEAKER_00: the story that I'm working with.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I want to tell you what happened next.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was good, as I say, Laurie Anderson, really brilliant and it's inspiring.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then when she came on to do an encore,
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  SPEAKER_00: she got us all doing Tai Chi,
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  SPEAKER_00: like a couple of thousand people doing Tai Chi in this great hall.
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  SPEAKER_00: It felt really good.
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  SPEAKER_00: And yes, my body was just yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: I want to move with people consciously and with integrity together.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then I came out and I knew what I was going to do.
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  SPEAKER_00: I had my plan.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was clutching a fiver.
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  SPEAKER_00: And in the little studio,
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  SPEAKER_00: because I know in those big places that they don't end shows at the same time
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  SPEAKER_00: because it would just be a nightmare of getting up and down the stairs,
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  SPEAKER_00: a nightmare of logistics.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I had a hunch that the Shovel Dance Collective would be on later.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I found the little studio that they were playing in and I said to the doorman,
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  SPEAKER_00: I'll give you a fiver if you let me in.
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  SPEAKER_00: He said, no, absolutely not.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I gave him my...
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  SPEAKER_00: Sad dog face, which I learned from my son.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sort of downward turned mouth,
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  SPEAKER_00: head on one side,
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  SPEAKER_00: sort of flashy eyes,
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  SPEAKER_00: which I hardly ever implement, but I did at this moment implement this look.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I said, oh, please.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then I told a lie.
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  SPEAKER_00: I said, all my friends are in there.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've bought the wrong tickets.
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  SPEAKER_00: I had to go and see something else, which I felt, Laurie, forgive me, because you were amazing.
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  SPEAKER_00: He said, okay then, in you go.
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  SPEAKER_00: So in I went, and in between, you know, there was two doors.
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  SPEAKER_00: I tried to get my fiver out of the pocket, and to the guy's credit, he didn't accept my fiver.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I was blundering in,
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  SPEAKER_00: and I banged the door as I went in,
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  SPEAKER_00: and I'm very sorry to the Shovel Dance Collective for that, because it was...
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  SPEAKER_00: Pin drop in there and they were playing their incredible music.
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  SPEAKER_00: I wasn't going to play one of their tracks but now that I'm here and talking about them I will.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'll put one at the end of the pod because it's too much not to listen to them.
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  SPEAKER_00: And those experiences have been with me as I've been creating the next pieces
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  SPEAKER_00: of work and That I'm doing because when I went into the Shovel Dance Collective,
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  SPEAKER_00: I was so full,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: from all the places that Laurie had kind of tenderised in me and got me thinking
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  SPEAKER_00: about.
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  SPEAKER_00: Then with the Shovel Dance Collective,
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  SPEAKER_00: the deep drones that they play and the high notes and the old,
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  SPEAKER_00: old songs just got my heart.
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  SPEAKER_00: Breaking to pieces and I cried and I cried and I cried and I cried.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then I just tipped into kind of giggly hysteria.
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  SPEAKER_00: I just kind of giggled to myself
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  SPEAKER_00: like I'm doing now.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then I danced.
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  SPEAKER_00: I just went to the back and danced.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was glorious.
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  SPEAKER_00: So here I am creating a show to...
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  SPEAKER_00: Perform on Friday in the woods and a show that will be at St Benedict's
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  SPEAKER_00: in Glastonbury next Friday for Samhain, Samhain's Secrets and Songs.
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  SPEAKER_00: Wanting to,
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  SPEAKER_00: I was going to say deliver,
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  SPEAKER_00: but more create a space where we can all feel a The content of our own hearts,
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  SPEAKER_00: of our own beings and be able to be in relationship with them,
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  SPEAKER_00: whether that's through tears or whether that's through laughter or whether that's
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  SPEAKER_00: through dancing or whatever your, our way is.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just feeling, thinking and feeling about that right now.
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  SPEAKER_00: I started by thinking about Jim Henson who created the puppet show
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  SPEAKER_00: and Somebody asked him about creativity and he said,
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  SPEAKER_00: have a really good idea and create enough space so that other people can play
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  SPEAKER_00: within it to create a good team.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's what I've been wanting to do for the show in the woods.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's coming.
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  SPEAKER_00: People are coming together.
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  SPEAKER_00: We've got three musicians, fire artists.
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  SPEAKER_00: Two aerial acts.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've had the amazing Joanna Proctor supporting me with direction.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's really, really coming together and unpacking in a way that I could never do by myself.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I've kind of, I've just got myself to worry about.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, I've delivered or shared the kind of map that I'm dreaming into, the map of the story.
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  SPEAKER_00: And people are taking the bull by the horns and creating their own worlds within it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I feel desperate to get people out into the woods doing things together
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  SPEAKER_00: and I feel desperate to create hope.
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  SPEAKER_00: Desperate is not quite the right word but there's an intensity and an extreme desire
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  SPEAKER_00: to get us all out
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  SPEAKER_00: In nature,
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  SPEAKER_00: being creative,
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  SPEAKER_00: doing things together through the winter or before winter really kind of draws us in
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  SPEAKER_00: so that we know we sort of have the habit in our souls of going out
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  SPEAKER_00: and still connecting in lots of different ways.
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  SPEAKER_00: The piece in the story that I'm working on today is this piece where there's
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  SPEAKER_00: a man We call him the gardener because there's this great tree that splits
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  SPEAKER_00: into three.
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  SPEAKER_00: This great oak tree and it splits into gardener,
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  SPEAKER_00: magician,
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  SPEAKER_00: king and they have their separate stories and it's about how they come back together
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  SPEAKER_00: to become whole.
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  SPEAKER_00: How we can come back together to tend to the earth,
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  SPEAKER_00: to harness our own magic and to understand that we're all sovereign beings.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's basically what it's all about.
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  SPEAKER_00: So there's this moment where he comes out of, the gardener comes out of the world of the Fae.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this world of the Fae,
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  SPEAKER_00: it's all very wonderful,
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  SPEAKER_00: but it's stopping him from connecting with the outside world.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when he steps out, he realises that the outside world has been devastated.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's the King's story.
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  SPEAKER_00: Maybe I'll tell you a little bit about that.
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  SPEAKER_00: But the outside world has been devastated and the The inspiration I got
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  SPEAKER_00: from this moment was from Max Porter's All of This Unreal Time.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to read from it now for you.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, I find myself at the midpoint of my life in a dark wood.
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  SPEAKER_00: And now I'm here in the forest of my mind.
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  SPEAKER_00: And every tree is shame.
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  SPEAKER_00: Every living thing is a reprimand.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I realise I must speak freely now before I lose you.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I was working as the witch of Wookiee Hole one day and there was a quiet moment.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I thought, OK, I'm going to just name and name and name and name my shadow, write it down.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was kind of It offered itself to me,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: as I'm dressed as a witch and I'm handing out horrible sweets that are kind of,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know, full of poison to children.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so I had to get some till receipt because I didn't have any pen and paper on me.
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  SPEAKER_00: But the lovely person at the ice cream parlour scrolled out her till receipt a bit for me.
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  SPEAKER_00: And these are some of the words that I've got.
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  SPEAKER_00: Unhelpful, unfriendly.
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  SPEAKER_00: Mean, Scathing, Critical, Narrow-Minded, Petty, Dishonest.
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  SPEAKER_00: Then in between writing these down,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: kids are coming up and getting their Halloween treat and I'm giving it out
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  SPEAKER_00: and coming back to my list.
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  SPEAKER_00: Scheming,
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  SPEAKER_00: Exclusive, Cruel,
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  SPEAKER_00: Violent,
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  SPEAKER_00: Competitive, Grasping, Greedy,
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  SPEAKER_00: Blaming, Crushing, Selfish, Bitter, Brittle, Sharp.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I'm thinking, let's just let all that land, shall we?
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  SPEAKER_00: I know we've all got our versions,
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  SPEAKER_00: but it's really up for me right now,
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  SPEAKER_00: and they say it's in the astrology,
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  SPEAKER_00: that we have this time where we're kind of going backwards and having a chance
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  SPEAKER_00: to revisit things, heal things, if that's what we're choosing to do.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I sure as hell am revisiting some things and trying
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  SPEAKER_00: to understand Why I am these things,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: why I can be brittle,
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  SPEAKER_00: why I can be sharp, why I can be greedy, why I can be unfriendly, all those things.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I just keep coming back to,
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  SPEAKER_00: underneath it all, there is always, always, always a broken heart.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm here with my broken heart.
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  SPEAKER_00: Feeling it.
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  SPEAKER_00: The exquisiteness of feeling my own pain.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's such a relief.
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  SPEAKER_00: Such a relief.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like a deep breath after just breathing really shallowly.
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  SPEAKER_00: For a long time,
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  SPEAKER_00: like a kind of dropping in my body rather than a sort of panic,
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  SPEAKER_00: panic, panic, panic feeling.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I'm really enjoying working on these places and putting them in to the story,
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  SPEAKER_00: which I think I'll tell different versions of this Friday.
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  SPEAKER_00: Get in touch if you want to come.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's near Glastonbury, secret location, six o'clock.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the 30th of October is...
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  SPEAKER_00: Where I'll be in St. Ben's with the amazing Ted Waters.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think I'm going to tell same versions, different versions of the same story.
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  SPEAKER_00: I went through it in the woods with the director,
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  SPEAKER_00: which was just wonderful because usually it's just me kind of grunting and muttering
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  SPEAKER_00: about and I can easily skip over things in my mind and then when I get to tell them,
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  SPEAKER_00: especially if I'm only doing something once,
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  SPEAKER_00: if I'm doing something lots of times,
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  SPEAKER_00: I've got time to work on it,
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  SPEAKER_00: but if I'm just doing something once,
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  SPEAKER_00: I have a habit of being like, oh, it'll just come out.
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  SPEAKER_00: It'll come out right.
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  SPEAKER_00: But actually having someone there To try things out with and
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  SPEAKER_00: to reflect back was really amazing.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm really up for doing that for you in the winter.
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  SPEAKER_00: I do offer some online sessions where I can work with people with with speeches,
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  SPEAKER_00: with stories, with with whatever they want to come through with.
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  SPEAKER_00: And if you want to work with a theatre director,
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  SPEAKER_00: and I know I've said her name three times now,
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  SPEAKER_00: but Joanna Proctor from Reveal Productions is the pig's ears.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm really happy with how this is unfolding,
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  SPEAKER_00: this rootling around of my kind of unconscious,
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  SPEAKER_00: subconscious, in order to create depth into the show.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then Afterwards,
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  SPEAKER_00: in the evening of that particular rehearsal,
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm lying in bed and I'm thinking, what are the audience going to get out of it?
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't actually know the answer to that question.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_00: And I wonder if when the Shovel Dance Collective play, they are
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_00: wanting to
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  SPEAKER_00: Extract, extract deep emotion
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  SPEAKER_00: or what?
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I've no idea how it's going to be received.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just putting one foot in front of the other right now.
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  SPEAKER_00: But what I really want to evoke also is magic.
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  SPEAKER_00: With magic, wonder and delight.
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  SPEAKER_00: Moments of surprise, moments of charm, moments of, wow, that's, you know, great.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love those moments that can be really simple.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_00: I was going to share a bit with you then,
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  SPEAKER_00: but I'll talk about it next week in case there's anyone listening who's going
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  SPEAKER_00: to come.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the second thing I'm working on is the character,
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  SPEAKER_00: which I hardly ever pay heed to because I'm a storyteller and I tell the story.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I'm being encouraged to embody a character,
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  SPEAKER_00: to not just be a storyteller, but to embody a character.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I've decided to embody the character of the wizard.
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  SPEAKER_00: So...
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  SPEAKER_00: He's a wizard with no gardener in him and no king.
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  SPEAKER_00: So no desire to protect or create and no
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  SPEAKER_00: ownership of his own sovereignty.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's great.
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  SPEAKER_00: I can feel him there.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I want him to be
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_00: drunk and rude and But maybe that's just because I want
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_00: to express that part of my personality.
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  SPEAKER_00: But he's still a magician, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's still brilliant.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_00: He's still a magician.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I've been thinking about how to bring that character through.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_00: And I was thinking about Robin Williams.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_00: He's an amazing storyteller.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I have to say to you that when I first saw him, I was a little bit...
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't get it,
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_00: perhaps because I was there for the sound check and he seemed to be quite grumpy.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'm the worst for being quite tetchy before a show,
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_00: but maybe there was something about that.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know, but I have listened to him many, many a time.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_00: His recordings and his live shows and I love what he does
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_00: but I particularly have been inspired by the storyteller persona that he evokes.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_00: So I've been listening to him and hearing the magic in what he brings
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_00: and I'm inspired to use him as inspiration for this magician.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_00: I'll play a little bit of him for you now.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_01: In hermitic vocables,
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  SPEAKER_01: whatever shades they prized,
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  SPEAKER_01: what light or dapple, refract, Maligned with daubs of woad in patronizing words.
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  SPEAKER_01: For they were clean as clams,
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  SPEAKER_01: witty and thick as thieves,
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  SPEAKER_01: gossiping maskers worthy of serious love,
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  SPEAKER_01: sticklers for detail,
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  SPEAKER_01: furred with wolf pity,
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  SPEAKER_01: honeyed as the claws of bears,
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  SPEAKER_01: tree-truthful looters a long time's inches,
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  SPEAKER_01: shooting a bare-faced lion,
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  SPEAKER_01: secretive as heather ale, with leaves of breeding brewing.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_00: Is a quick excerpt from Five Denials on Merlin's Grave and it's really inspiring to listen to.
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  SPEAKER_00: It really takes you,
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_00: it takes me into another world completely and so I've been listening to that a lot
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_00: and reading a lot of Max Porter and Thinking about how to layer all of that
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_00: with Laurie's inspiration of the broken heart within my storytelling right now.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_00: That was a log falling from the fire.
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  SPEAKER_00: Ah, I hope you're coming somewhere to something where I can reach you.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_00: I hope you're moving your body in ways that please you.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_00: I hope that you are delighted by life.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks for tuning in and remember that if you share this podcast or leave a comment
• 26:48
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• 26:54
  SPEAKER_00: to support me on Patreon so I can have a little bit more Time to dedicate
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_00: to this podcast.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_00: I'd absolutely love that.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_00: You can just do a couple of pounds a month or whatever suits you.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, get in touch with us.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_00: And yes,
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_00: there's a severe weather warning,
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_00: but it's going to finish by two o'clock, this great howling wind.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_00: We're not performing till six, so we will be in the lap of the calm.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_00: And the show with Ted Waters, I'll play some of her music on next week's pod.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_00: It's just brilliant.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_00: Wow, she's a real force to be reckoned with.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_00: It's so rich and so beautiful.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_00: I hope you can join us there on the 30th in St. Ben's.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_00: And I also have places left on my Women Who Run With
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_00: The Wolves seven-week Tuesday night group in Avalon in Glastonbury.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_00: And we go through every story in the book and I'd really love to,
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_00: it's fine the circle,
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_00: the size that it is,
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_00: but I'd hate,
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_00: you know, sometimes people often, people say, oh, I didn't hear about it.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_00: You know,
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_00: if there's anyone you think,
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_00: I think they'd be up for that or they should be doing that,
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_00: then let them know and get them to get in touch with me.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_00: But here's the Shovel Dance Collective.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_00: Blessings and peace.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_00: Mwah.
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