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The Rita Panahi Show | 18 February · The Rita Panahi Show

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Speaker 1: On scoring ms Ostrodia.
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Speaker 2: This is the winder Panety Show.
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Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panety Show. Coming
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Speaker 3: up tonight. Strong Conservatives back in shadow cabinet as Angus
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Speaker 3: Taylor unveils his way from Bench. We will go through
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Speaker 3: the appointments with Daniel Wilde and Michael Danby.
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Speaker 4: Next.
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Speaker 3: Further revelations about a transgender inflain who prison authorities moved
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Speaker 3: to a female prison where he sexually assaulted a rape survivor.
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Speaker 3: Stefaniebastian joins me with the latest on that shocking case.
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Speaker 3: Hillary Clinton's lies about her and her husband's links with
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Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein and Glayne Maxwell expose.
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Speaker 4: I'll go through that with Alex.
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Speaker 3: Stein and more on the Epstein files with Michael Loftus
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Speaker 3: as we examined implications for the Royal family and Left
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Speaker 3: is losing. It features this demure lady making a salient
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Speaker 3: point in a calm and measured way.
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Speaker 5: God, God, Damn, God, God.
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Speaker 4: Go but first.
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Speaker 3: Angus Taylor has unveiled his new shadow front bench, which
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Speaker 3: he says will be focused on cutting waste, boosting productivity,
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Speaker 3: and deregulating the economy. Some of the big changes include
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Speaker 3: the appointment of Tim Wilson as Shadow Treasurer, James Patterson
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Speaker 3: shifting to Defense, Jane Hume in industrial relations, productivity and deregulation,
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Speaker 3: and a number of strong Conservatives up back in shadow
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Speaker 3: cabinet with Andrew Hasty in the industry portfolio, Just Enterprise
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Speaker 3: now the Shadow Minister for Small Business, and Sarah Henderson
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Speaker 3: has communications. Tim Wilson said the coalition's economic agenda would
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Speaker 3: be centered on reward for effort and keeping taxes low.
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Speaker 3: He also took direct aim at Treasurer Jim Chalmers for
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Speaker 3: his push to amend the capital gains tax discount.
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Speaker 4: Have a listen.
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Speaker 6: We need to unleash the ingenuity and potential of the
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Speaker 6: Australian community and creating a pathway for jobs in the
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Speaker 6: private sector. That requires private investment. That means people need
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Speaker 6: to be confident. And there is one sure fireway to
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Speaker 6: kill private investment, and that is by adding new taxes
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Speaker 6: and creating uncertainty on the Australian economy. So Jim Chalmers
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Speaker 6: floated new housing tax is directly going to harm investment
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Speaker 6: in the sector where one we need more houses, but
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Speaker 6: two in creating the jobs that we need and the
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Speaker 6: skills we need towards more houses.
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Speaker 3: Let's bring in the panel joining me now as former
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Speaker 3: Labor MP Michael Danby and Deputy Executive director of this
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Speaker 3: Suite of Public Affairs Daniel Wilde. Dan I'll start with you.
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Speaker 3: How do you see this reshuffle. We've got plenty of
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Speaker 3: moderates still in shadow cabinet, but some bold choices there
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Speaker 3: from angers Taylor.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's a step in the right direction.
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Speaker 7: There's some heavy hitters that have been returned to cabinet,
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Speaker 7: as you rightly or shadow cabinet, I should say, as
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Speaker 7: you rightly mentioned, so it is certainly a as I say,
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Speaker 7: step in the right direction. I think the key thing
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Speaker 7: for the Liberal Party and the coalition is not just
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Speaker 7: the people who are there or even the policies that
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Speaker 7: they have. It's whether or not the community is listening
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Speaker 7: when the Liberal Party talks.
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Speaker 1: That is the big question that we don't have an
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Speaker 1: answer to yet.
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Speaker 7: It is quite possible that the Party could have the
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Speaker 7: best policies in the world with the best shadow cabinet
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Speaker 7: in the world. But we've seen what's happened to the
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Speaker 7: Tories in the UK, where they have a lot of
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Speaker 7: good policies on net zero on immigration, for example, But
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Speaker 7: a lot of people in the UK have said, well,
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Speaker 7: you guys had over ten years and you botched it,
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Speaker 7: and so we're all voting for reform. That could be
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Speaker 7: the case here, and so I just wonder whether that
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Speaker 7: whether that I guess depth of the trust crisis in
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Speaker 7: the Liberal Party has been recognized, because if people aren't listening,
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Speaker 7: it doesn't matter what you're saying. So yeah, step in
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Speaker 7: the right direction, but let's see whether the public has
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Speaker 7: open airs to what the party has to say.
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Speaker 3: Still, how do you, said, Michael, is Angus Taylor the
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Speaker 3: man to do something about that crisis in trust that
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Speaker 3: it seems to exist with so many in the Liberal
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Speaker 3: base looking elsewhere. They are looking at one nation, they're
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Speaker 3: looking at some other minor parties, independence, and they've stopped listening.
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Speaker 8: Well, you and Daniel both write the drift to one
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Speaker 8: nation may have gone too far. So what happens with
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Speaker 8: this by election in Pharaoh is poor old Angus says,
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Speaker 8: to come along and get more than one nation or
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Speaker 8: the independent in a rural and regional electric where Barnaby
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Speaker 8: Joyce's campaigning against him very difficult. So it could be
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Speaker 8: denigrated by the first bi election he has to face. However,
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Speaker 8: he has got some good people who's put forward. I
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Speaker 8: don't think it's on the basis of moderate or conservative reader.
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Speaker 8: I think it's on the basis of cut through. Like
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Speaker 8: Tim Wilson is a very good cut through politician to
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Speaker 8: win that seat, just as next door to my old
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Speaker 8: seat in Goldstein against the Teal was so favored by
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Speaker 8: the ABC and had so much.
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Speaker 4: Of Daniel money.
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Speaker 3: It was the only one who defeated a Till, wasn't
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Speaker 3: he and a white male. So you would think that
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Speaker 3: they would work against him in those Till electorates, but
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Speaker 3: he prevailed. Talking about politicians who have cut through, just
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Speaker 3: Enterprice is back. She has been I think probably the
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Speaker 3: most successful liberal woman in having cut through. Her impact
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Speaker 3: on the Voice was incredible. And Andrew Hasty is back,
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Speaker 3: and he's also been given the position of a deputy
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Speaker 3: leader in the House of Representatives.
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Speaker 8: Yes, well, I think he'll be very good at that.
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Speaker 8: But there's still a couple of puzzles in there. I
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Speaker 8: can't understand why Ted O'Brien is the foreign spokesman. It
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Speaker 8: maybe because the former leader in the Senate didn't want
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Speaker 8: to keep the job. But I think Claire Chandler's very good.
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Speaker 1: Yes, she's really cut through.
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Speaker 8: She's from Tasmania and it's hard to criticize her as
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Speaker 8: a young female from a regional place too, so she's
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Speaker 8: got all of the categories.
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Speaker 3: That well, it doesn't seem to matter Dad if a
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Speaker 3: female could take every diversity box. But if she's conservative,
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Speaker 3: they will come for her. We've seen that over and
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Speaker 3: over again. I want to say, I do worry about
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Speaker 3: some of these moderate stan I mean, how can you
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Speaker 3: have someone like Julie and Lisa in the Indigenous portfolio
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Speaker 3: after he backed the Voice, the dangerous and divisive Voice.
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Speaker 7: I don't get it, But you know, we'll wait and
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Speaker 7: see what he has to offer in the portfolio responsibilities
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Speaker 7: that he's been given. I think a broader point here is,
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Speaker 7: you know, do enough people in the parliamentary team I
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Speaker 7: guess are they willing to take the risks that are
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Speaker 7: going to be needed? If it's sort of I mean
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Speaker 7: it's okay to sort of criticize the government on a
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Speaker 7: day to day basis, and all of that's important, but
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Speaker 7: I really think that if not now, then when you're
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Speaker 7: on a fifteen percent primary right, So if it's not
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Speaker 7: sort of existential crisis, bells ringing.
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 7: I just wonder whether this is a steady as she
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Speaker 7: goes situation.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I've got an open mind to it.
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Speaker 7: But the real thing here is not so much sort
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Speaker 7: of conservative moderates and so forth. It's between those who
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Speaker 7: understand the moment.
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Speaker 1: That they're in.
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Speaker 7: And it's not just existential for the Liberal Party, it's
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Speaker 7: for our country. I mean, our country can't keep going
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Speaker 7: the way it's going, with our economy, with our society.
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Speaker 7: So it's going to have to be some brave, bold
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Speaker 7: risk taking to get the Liberal Party out of its position,
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Speaker 7: but also to help get our country out of the
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Speaker 7: problems that we have.
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Speaker 3: I write in the Herald Sun today that we need
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Speaker 3: to see a policy from them, an immigration policy with
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Speaker 3: some rastic cuts in the numbers. They can't just talk
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Speaker 3: about values and the door is closed on those who
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Speaker 3: hate this country. That's all well and good, I agree
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Speaker 3: with that, but we need to see a key differentiation
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Speaker 3: with Labor on a policy that so many Australians care
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Speaker 3: about and both major parties have ignored. So it'll be
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Speaker 3: very interesting to see what that policy looks like when
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Speaker 3: it is released. Let's move on to former Reserve Bank
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Speaker 3: Governor Philip Blow, who slammed the federal government's cost of
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Speaker 3: living handouts and failure to boost the economy. Lo said
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Speaker 3: the government's spending was making the economic challenges worse, and
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Speaker 3: he warned that bigger issue was labour's failure to act
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Speaker 3: on productivity and increase growth. He said, productivity capacity of
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Speaker 3: the economy is not growing very quickly, and the government
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Speaker 3: wants to keep spending and wants to keep offering people handouts,
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Speaker 3: which adds to demand, which in the normal course of
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Speaker 3: events would be fine. But if the supply is not growing,
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Speaker 3: you can't do it. And if you try to do it,
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Speaker 3: then interest rates have to go up. Dan, we are
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Speaker 3: in a serious economic crisis and if these trends continue.
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Speaker 3: The Albanyzy government seems to just be blind to this.
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Speaker 3: They show no signs of changing course.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean they don't understand economics is a part
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Speaker 7: of it. And what Philip Low has said is spot on.
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Speaker 7: And ah, well, I mean that's the case.
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you.
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Speaker 7: Can pump a lot of money into an economy, provided
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Speaker 7: the economy is growing faster than the rate at which
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Speaker 7: you're pumping the money into it, that's fine, it will
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Speaker 7: absorb it and you won't get higher prices. What Philip
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Speaker 7: Loow is saying is that our actual capacity is a
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Speaker 7: nation to generate wealth is declining, right, That is the
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Speaker 7: key thing. So we're pumping demand up with handouts and
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Speaker 7: also mass migration that is exacerbating. We know about housing
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Speaker 7: but everywhere else. But our actual ability to generate wealth
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Speaker 7: and to increase the supply capacity city of our economy
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Speaker 7: is actually going backwards as the non market sector is
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Speaker 7: growing faster than the market sector. Now, yes, you need
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Speaker 7: to have age care, health care and these other critical services,
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Speaker 7: but they in and of themselves do not generate new wealth.
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Speaker 7: The wealth has to come from the private sector, which
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Speaker 7: is declining as a share of the economy. So you've
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Speaker 7: got the perfect storm that's happening. And the government doesn't
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Speaker 7: have a growth agenda. It has a redistribution agenda, so
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Speaker 7: it's just shifting money around without growing the economy. So yeah,
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Speaker 7: I mean, inflation is going to go up, in interest
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Speaker 7: rates are.
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Speaker 1: Going to go up. In Australians will keep getting poorer.
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Speaker 3: Now prime in a Stanton Albanezi has appeared on the
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Speaker 3: ABC and he has blamed all sorts of things, social media,
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Speaker 3: One Nation, the coalition, it's all of that that's to
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Speaker 3: blame for the collapse of public trust in government.
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Speaker 4: Have listened to this.
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Speaker 2: Think devices like that one making it well, they're pushing
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Speaker 2: people towards algorithms, push people towards extreme and towards really simple,
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Speaker 2: not solutions, but identifying problems.
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Speaker 4: Who's concerned about the fairbrill nature of debate.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and One Nation have always been about identifying problems.
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Speaker 2: And a primary thing of your problem in life is
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Speaker 2: because of people who don't look like you, that division
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Speaker 2: that they have promoted consistently.
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Speaker 4: There you go, Michael, it's everyone's fault.
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Speaker 3: It's the devices, it's social media, it's people identifying problems,
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Speaker 3: taking zero responsibility for his government's role in the collapse
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Speaker 3: of trust in public in the government.
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Speaker 8: Really, to quote some of very unfashionable Bill Clinton, it's
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Speaker 8: the economy stupid.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's the fact that all.
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Speaker 8: The factors that dom that Daniel Wilde was talking about before.
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Speaker 8: But look, I agree with him about social media, but
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Speaker 8: don't just focus it on the right and One Nation.
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Speaker 8: The most febrile, fascist, racist, bigoted stuff comes from the
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Speaker 8: left these days, and anyone who's in the left who
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Speaker 8: doesn't stand up and say that is a coward. And
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Speaker 8: the fact, of course you wouldn't expect him to get
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Speaker 8: questions like that from the ABC or any examples. But
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Speaker 8: that's where the worst pressure comes. That's the biggest change
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Speaker 8: in society. And of course Zuckerberg and all of the
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Speaker 8: other social media, particularly TikTok, which is run by our
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Speaker 8: Chinese friends, are behind it.
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Speaker 3: Well, Dan, it was just a bizarre series of excuses there.
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Speaker 3: And if he wants to blame devices and social media,
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Speaker 3: these platforms are dominated by the left. X is probably
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Speaker 3: the only one that has some semblance of balance since
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Speaker 3: Elon Musk took it over. But if he wants to
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Speaker 3: blame the online environment for this angst and to explain
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Speaker 3: one nation support, I mean he's on the wrong track there.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, get a mirror.
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Speaker 7: I mean, you're the prime minister that spent the first
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Speaker 7: eighteen months of your government dividing us by race. That
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Speaker 7: was your policy to have racial privilege put into the constitution.
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Speaker 7: The first thing you said after you were elected in
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Speaker 7: twenty twenty two was acknowledgment of country and that we're
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Speaker 7: doing voice Treaty.
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Speaker 1: In truth, you did nothing about anti Semitism.
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Speaker 7: You continue to run from social division, and you're blaming
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Speaker 7: one nation who are saying we don't like people who
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Speaker 7: don't look like us. I've never heard Pauling Hanson say
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Speaker 7: that before. I mean, arguably that's probably defamatory to say.
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Speaker 7: Why don't you say it again if you believe that.
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Speaker 7: I mean, this is a disgrace and one of the
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Speaker 7: great shames of the coalition having been divided and in
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Speaker 7: disarray is this government has gotten away with.
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Speaker 1: So much, so much destruction of our country.
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Speaker 7: I think alb and Easy there's a reason he never
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Speaker 7: does interviews, right, he just can't. He just doesn't get it.
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Speaker 7: He's been in this bubble for so long. He has
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Speaker 7: no idea what is happening in this country anymore.
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Speaker 8: Well, soft interviews with the ABC, maybe.
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Speaker 4: That's that's it.
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Speaker 3: That's where he will go and point to mobile phones
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Speaker 3: and blame devices and social media. Now before you go,
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Speaker 3: I'll talk about Victoria premiers and to Alan was grilled
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Speaker 3: during a press conference about whether there should be an
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Speaker 3: investigation into the tax payer money allegedly funneled into the
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Speaker 3: hands of organized criminals on big built sites. She defended
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Speaker 3: submitting a CFMU complaint to the state's anti corruption watchdog
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Speaker 3: following revelations Iback rejected her twenty twenty four referrals eighteen
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Speaker 3: months ago. Dan the referral was rejected. She was repeatedly
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Speaker 3: asked when she was told Iback had dismissed her complaint,
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Speaker 3: but refused to provide any sort of a timeline. I
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Speaker 3: can't see how in any reasonable environment a premier con
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Speaker 3: survive something like this. We're talking about fifteen billion dollars
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Speaker 3: of potential fraud, some estimates up to thirty billion, and
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Speaker 3: yet Dan, I think.
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Speaker 4: Labor are going to get away with it again.
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Speaker 1: They could do.
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Speaker 7: I sort of have the feeling this could be the
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Speaker 7: straw that breaks the camel's back. The reason for that
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Speaker 7: is to cover up is almost always worse than the crime.
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Speaker 7: And it looks like she's just been trying to get
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Speaker 7: away with it and sort of hide what's been happening,
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Speaker 7: even though it's been in her full knowledge. So I
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Speaker 7: think this could be an issue for them. Just Cinter
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Speaker 7: Allen is no Daniel Andrews in terms of Daniel Andrews's
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Speaker 7: ability to weave and dodge and get away with things.
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Speaker 7: So I do now get the feel that things are
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Speaker 7: starting to catch up finally. I mean it's taken this long, right,
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Speaker 7: but finally I think things are starting to catch up.
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Speaker 1: So you might be right. Maybe they will get away
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Speaker 1: with it.
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Speaker 7: I don't know how much people on the street are
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Speaker 7: paying attention to this, but I've just got the sense
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Speaker 7: that time's now running out for c. Cinterallan, and it
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Speaker 7: wouldn't surprise if they replace her, as in the Labor Party,
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Speaker 7: replaces her with somebody else, probably in a couple of months,
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Speaker 7: to take them to the election.
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Speaker 4: I suspect that could be a real possibility. Dan Wild,
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Speaker 4: Michael Danby, thank you so much for your time.
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Speaker 8: Thank you.
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Speaker 4: Joining me now is Women's.
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Speaker 3: Foreign Australia Head of Advocacy Stephanie Bastian. Stephanie, I want
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Speaker 3: to get your reaction to the latest developments in this
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Speaker 3: outrageous trans prisoners story.
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Speaker 4: It was revealed that prison bosses in Victoria.
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Speaker 3: Were warned about moving transgender murder at Clinton Rintool to
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Speaker 3: a women's prison before he sexually assaulted a rape survivor.
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Speaker 3: Stephanie appears high level discussions about the transfer were preoccupied
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Speaker 3: with Rintol's gender preferences rather than what was best for
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Speaker 3: the female prisoners.
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Speaker 9: Well, good evening reader, absolutely, I mean this case is
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Speaker 9: just such a disgrace and when you look at the
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Speaker 9: level of detail that's coming out. This was a murderer
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Speaker 9: placed in a prison with a mother, a young mother,
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Speaker 9: a vulnerable young mother and her baby. How this decision
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Speaker 9: hadn't reached I mean that the minister at the time
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Speaker 9: must have known about it, the Corrections department. It's such
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Speaker 9: a huge, significant event that's occurred in this prison to
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Speaker 9: be hushed up for four years to result in a secret.
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Speaker 10: Payment to make it go away is just diabolical.
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Speaker 9: And even since the Victorian Labor government have done their
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Speaker 9: review into prison policies around trans and gender diverse people,
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Speaker 9: they haven't put in a ban on men going into
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Speaker 9: women's prisons.
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Speaker 10: It's absolutely shocking.
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Speaker 9: I mean you would think, after this scenario, and after
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Speaker 9: the fact that there have been so many sex offenders
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Speaker 9: and predators applying to move into women's prisons have been
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Speaker 9: moved in, that that would be a priority. So the
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Speaker 9: government response has been to run away to avoid responsibility.
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Speaker 10: But it's really.
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Speaker 9: Important that we keep the pressure to ensure that they
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Speaker 9: are held accountable for this diabolical situation.
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Speaker 3: Now, Premier Allen has said that prisoner's safety is the
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Speaker 3: top priority, that that is behind their decision making. But
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Speaker 3: we have not seen that because this is not an
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Speaker 3: isolated case. We've got other males who identify as female
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Speaker 3: being put in women's prisons and the safety of those
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Speaker 3: women seems to be completely disregarded.
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Speaker 4: Stephanie.
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Speaker 3: Women have started petitions inmates of started petitions to try
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Speaker 3: to have their voices heard on this issue because prison
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Speaker 3: authorities aren't listening and the Labor government isn't listening either.
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Speaker 10: No, that's right.
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Speaker 9: We've been campaigning earlier than twenty twenty two on this.
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Speaker 10: Women from within the prison.
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Speaker 9: Started a campaign in twenty twenty two themselves and it
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Speaker 9: went to relevant authorities, relevant ministers to try and get
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Speaker 9: a male sex offender back in prison for the sexual
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Speaker 9: assault at tempt did rape of a woman. I mean,
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Speaker 9: if that is not a clear example where it is
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Speaker 9: not in the interests of safety for those vulnerable women
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Speaker 9: in prison to be housed with a male sex offender,
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Speaker 9: the threshold for safety is incredibly low. In fact, it's
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Speaker 9: not even there. The whole thing is a joke. I
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Speaker 9: don't think the government's taking this seriously. But I think
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Speaker 9: what we need to look at is the fact that
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Speaker 9: they are so entrenched with this idea of gender ideology
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Speaker 9: that they're willing to die on a hill that women's
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Speaker 9: safety comes second to it. Because once we acknowledge that
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Speaker 9: sex matters in a prison setting, then their whole theory
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Speaker 9: unravels because sex matters elsewhere too, And so the government
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Speaker 9: is so captured they would rather die on a hill
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Speaker 9: than to admit that the whole ideology is wrong.
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Speaker 4: Well, where are the liberals on this?
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Speaker 3: Because I think part of the reason labor has just
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Speaker 3: lurched so far. Left has completely lost the plot in
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Speaker 3: this issue, and so have all those government institute is
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Speaker 3: because there is no position really in this state.
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Speaker 4: Where are the liberals on this issue?
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Speaker 3: Have they changed their position from the last election where
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Speaker 3: they seem to back all of this craziness. Are they
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Speaker 3: saying that they're going to undo some of the changes
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Speaker 3: we've seen in the last ten years.
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Speaker 9: Yes, so there's actually been a significant shift with the
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Speaker 9: Victorian Liberals. Obviously, Brad Batton came out and said some
20:26
Speaker 9: male offenders, the murderers and sex offenders shouldn't go into
20:29
Speaker 9: women's prisons, but Jess Wilson put a statement out last
20:33
Speaker 9: week saying that all men will be banned from going
20:37
Speaker 9: into women's prisons. That Victorians want a common sense approach,
20:41
Speaker 9: So we are we really welcome that decision, and I
20:44
Speaker 9: hope that voters consider that when they go to the
20:48
Speaker 9: polls in November.
20:51
Speaker 3: Now, the search continues for missing four year old Gus Lamont.
20:55
Speaker 3: His disappearance is now being considered a major crime. One
20:58
Speaker 3: of Guss's Graham parents, Josie Murray, has been charged with
21:03
Speaker 3: firearm offences at the remote property where the boy was
21:07
Speaker 3: last seen. Police have maintained the charges are not linked
21:11
Speaker 3: to the toddler's disappearance.
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Speaker 4: Important to point that out.
21:15
Speaker 3: Stephanie's some in the media have been calling him the
21:19
Speaker 3: boy's grandmother. Tell me why you believe this type of
21:23
Speaker 3: reporting is misleading.
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Speaker 9: Well, I think when you're investigating a matter like this,
21:31
Speaker 9: facts do matter, and I think it's incredibly unfair on
21:34
Speaker 9: the actual grandmother that people were having to research which
21:39
Speaker 9: grandmother had been charged in this instance in relation to
21:43
Speaker 9: the firearms. It was actually the grandfather, and that's very relevant.
21:47
Speaker 9: People have a right to the truth, they have a
21:49
Speaker 9: right to know, and when you start describing accused men
21:55
Speaker 9: as women, that's just not accurate. It's not fair to
21:59
Speaker 9: the other family is involved, and it's certainly not fair
22:02
Speaker 9: to the victim as well. Reporting matters, and if you're
22:05
Speaker 9: worried about the repercussions of using.
22:08
Speaker 10: Language, use grandparents.
22:10
Speaker 9: There's other ways to discuss it without pretending that this
22:13
Speaker 9: boy's grandfather is in fact the grandmother.
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Speaker 3: Now we've had more cases of trans identified mass shootings.
22:21
Speaker 3: The person behind one of the deadliest shootings in Canada's
22:24
Speaker 3: history has been identified as an eighteen year older Jesse
22:28
Speaker 3: Van Rutisla. Jonathan Kaye writes in Coillette the mass murderer
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Speaker 3: called himself a woman, but that doesn't mean he was,
22:37
Speaker 3: or that the rest of us have to live in
22:40
Speaker 3: the imaginary universe he literally built for.
22:43
Speaker 4: Himself, Stephanie.
22:45
Speaker 3: There have been a number of mass shootings, including at schools,
22:49
Speaker 3: as well as some other high profile cases involving people
22:53
Speaker 3: identifying as trans or non binary. It's something that meany
22:59
Speaker 3: in the media shy away from reporting, but it's certainly
23:03
Speaker 3: something that's being discussed on social media.
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Speaker 9: Yes, absolutely, But I think the whole issue around gender
23:11
Speaker 9: identity is that when someone discloses or goes to get
23:16
Speaker 9: treatment for the fact that they have gender dysphorias, we
23:19
Speaker 9: have this culture where every other health concern is dismissed,
23:23
Speaker 9: and quite often when people are struggling with gender dysphoria,
23:26
Speaker 9: they have a range of other chermabid mental health issues.
23:30
Speaker 9: And so I think in these instances there are a
23:33
Speaker 9: normal person doesn't go and shoot up.
23:35
Speaker 10: A school, shoot up their family.
23:37
Speaker 9: There are serious mental ill concerns here and these are
23:41
Speaker 9: not being addressed because of the affirmation approach.
23:43
Speaker 10: To gender identity.
23:44
Speaker 9: So not only is this gender ideology doing enormous disservice
23:48
Speaker 9: to the people that are struggling with these mental health conditions,
23:51
Speaker 9: it's creating victims and people are suffering as a consequence,
23:55
Speaker 9: people are dying as a consequence, and it's just it's
24:00
Speaker 9: a real tragedy. So I think there's a huge loss
24:03
Speaker 9: in the way that these cases have been dealt with.
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Speaker 4: Stephanie Bastian, thank you so much for your time.
24:09
Speaker 3: Tonight still to come, Lefty's Losing Ed plus the latest
24:14
Speaker 3: from the US, including Hillary Clinton's lies about her and
24:18
Speaker 3: her husband's links with Jeffrey Epstein and Gallaine Maxwell Alex
24:23
Speaker 3: Stein will have more on that shortly. You're watching the
24:36
Speaker 3: Rita Pannehy Show, and it's time for lefties losing it
24:40
Speaker 3: and let's have a burst of a weapon grade crazy.
24:43
Speaker 3: I've said it before and I'll say it again. A
24:45
Speaker 3: septum ring is almost always linked to severe mental health issues,
24:50
Speaker 3: and this next last is just further proof of that theory.
24:54
Speaker 4: Here's the thing. I don't want to pitch man. I
24:57
Speaker 4: don't want that a serb time.
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Speaker 11: I want to take it into the citytown square.
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Speaker 12: God, God, damn God, got.
25:14
Speaker 3: Calming, delightful lady, not at all disgustingly violent and unhinged.
25:19
Speaker 3: Just a typical lifty losing And let's see it now
25:22
Speaker 3: from another lifty lady who explains she has no love
25:26
Speaker 3: for America. She's only in the country because it's easy
25:29
Speaker 3: to make money.
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Speaker 11: Let me hold your hand when I say this. We
25:32
Speaker 11: do not move to America because we think it's a
25:35
Speaker 11: better country. We move here because it's a little less
25:39
Speaker 11: worse than our other countries.
25:41
Speaker 10: Because you're stupid.
25:43
Speaker 11: To think that we move to this country for some
25:45
Speaker 11: hot dogs and some baseball. We have better vibes, music, food, culture, history.
25:52
Speaker 10: Literally all of the aboves.
25:55
Speaker 11: We just move here because we are looking to make
25:58
Speaker 11: more money and offer a better chance for our families.
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Speaker 3: Okay, but if those countries are so much better than America,
26:07
Speaker 3: then why do you need to move to America to
26:10
Speaker 3: give your family a better life?
26:11
Speaker 4: Why would a country.
26:12
Speaker 3: With such rich culture, traditions, superior in every way to
26:17
Speaker 3: America not be.
26:19
Speaker 4: A great place to raise your family.
26:21
Speaker 3: Why is there more opportunity in America even for an
26:24
Speaker 3: impoverished migrant?
26:27
Speaker 4: May want to reflect on that one love now.
26:29
Speaker 3: Earlier in the week, I brought you their happy news
26:32
Speaker 3: of CNN losing two thirds of its audience since twenty sixteen.
26:36
Speaker 4: And here's another reason why they.
26:38
Speaker 3: Are so hard left these days, that this conspiracy theorist
26:43
Speaker 3: is the network's chief international anchor.
26:46
Speaker 4: I'm going to put you on the spot, Senator and
26:48
Speaker 4: ask you a question about American elections. There are we're.
26:51
Speaker 1: Going to have them. Are you sure?
26:53
Speaker 6: Yeah?
26:53
Speaker 4: Are you sure?
26:54
Speaker 1: That president?
26:55
Speaker 10: To me, that is really offensive, But yeah, we're going.
26:58
Speaker 12: To have them.
26:58
Speaker 4: Okay, But you know why, because you don't know.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know why anybody would ask
27:03
Speaker 1: me that.
27:05
Speaker 12: You're missing You're missing the lights going on.
27:07
Speaker 10: I like you, let's talk about but you can convince everybody.
27:11
Speaker 4: You can assure Americans and others that it will go usual.
27:15
Speaker 12: Only people worried about us not having elections.
27:18
Speaker 10: You influte phone booth.
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Speaker 5: Okay, we're going to.
27:23
Speaker 4: Just incredible stuff.
27:24
Speaker 3: I can't believe she really asked the US were going
27:27
Speaker 3: to hold elections.
27:28
Speaker 4: Embarrassing to New York now.
27:31
Speaker 3: Where idiot lefty protesters are blocking Fifth Avenue to yell
27:35
Speaker 3: at Trump Tower and give it the finger. Yes, I'm
27:50
Speaker 3: sure the building's feelings are really really hurt. Meanwhile, this
27:54
Speaker 3: is the man New Yorkers have elected as mayor. Zorn
27:57
Speaker 3: Mandani is now threatening too and I quote raid our
28:02
Speaker 3: Rainy Day Fund and retire Benefit Fund.
28:05
Speaker 4: Good times.
28:07
Speaker 13: Rather do is ensure that they remain as they are
28:10
Speaker 13: so that the city can be on firm financial footing. However,
28:12
Speaker 13: in order to get to this point of closing the
28:15
Speaker 13: gap on both this fiscal year and the next fiscal year,
28:18
Speaker 13: we are forced to raid the Rainy Day Fund, the
28:21
Speaker 13: Retiree Health Benefits Trust Reserve, and to increase property taxes
28:25
Speaker 13: across these other years.
28:26
Speaker 3: And increase property taxes. Wowee, got the trifecta.
28:30
Speaker 1: There.
28:31
Speaker 4: Now, let's talk about Cardi B.
28:33
Speaker 3: She's been having a meltdown since the clearly more talented
28:36
Speaker 3: and successful Nicki Minaj declared his support for the Trump
28:40
Speaker 3: administration and in particular the work the administration is doing
28:43
Speaker 3: to protect persecuted Christians in countries like Nigeria and elsewhere.
28:48
Speaker 3: Cardi B's meltdown has seen her indulge in some bizarre antics.
28:53
Speaker 3: I don't even know what she is doing in this
28:55
Speaker 3: next clip, and I apologize in advance for what I
28:59
Speaker 3: think is going to be an uncomfortable and cringe worthy
29:03
Speaker 3: thirty seconds. She can hardly walk with all the weird
29:40
Speaker 3: surgeries as she's had performed as a medical malpractice suit. There, somewhere,
29:45
Speaker 3: now here is Cardi B taking another tumble, this time
29:49
Speaker 3: on stage. I just tried there by a dancers trying
30:08
Speaker 3: to cover that up when she's not falling over like
30:11
Speaker 3: a drunken clown. Can't you be saying stuff like this,
30:15
Speaker 3: mouthing off a bad ice and threatening to mace their offices.
30:21
Speaker 14: So many of the tilty's are the baking.
30:32
Speaker 15: Beating.
30:36
Speaker 3: And that's who the Democrats thought was an ideal candidate
30:40
Speaker 3: to campaign for. Kamala Harris good work team talking about
30:44
Speaker 3: the Democrats. You know, you have to admire this about
30:48
Speaker 3: Hillary Clinton.
30:49
Speaker 4: She has an.
30:50
Speaker 3: Easy ability to lie with complete confidence, complete lack of shame.
30:55
Speaker 3: Here she explains to the BBC that her and her husband,
30:58
Speaker 3: Bill Clinton had no relationship with Jeffrey Epstein and Gallainne Maxwell.
31:03
Speaker 3: I mean, never mind the fact that Bill Clinton was
31:06
Speaker 3: a regular on the Lolito Express, never mind that he
31:10
Speaker 3: had such a bizarre relationship with Epstein that this painting
31:14
Speaker 3: took pride of place in Jeffrey Epstein's main residence in
31:17
Speaker 3: New York. Yes, that is the infamous blue dress that
31:22
Speaker 3: Monica Lewinsky was a rumor to be wearing.
31:25
Speaker 4: And then there are the links both Hillary.
31:27
Speaker 3: And Bill had with Gallainne Maxwell through her rather significant
31:31
Speaker 3: role in supporting the creation of the Clinton Global Initiative.
31:35
Speaker 3: And so close was the relationship between the two couples
31:38
Speaker 3: that in twenty thirteen, the Clintons, through their charity, honored
31:42
Speaker 3: Gallaine Maxwell. This is some four years after sexual abuse
31:46
Speaker 3: accusations against her emerged and two years after Bill Clinton's
31:51
Speaker 3: staff recommended banning her from official events.
31:55
Speaker 4: And who can.
31:56
Speaker 3: Forget that infamous picture of Gallainne Maxwell at Chelsea Clinton's wedding.
32:01
Speaker 3: But oh no, Hillary Clinton now claims there was no relationship,
32:07
Speaker 3: no links with Epstein and Maxwell and the Clintons.
32:10
Speaker 4: Listen to this, Do you regret the links that there
32:13
Speaker 4: have been? You know, we have no links.
32:17
Speaker 12: We have a very clear record that we've been willing
32:21
Speaker 12: to talk about, which my husband has said he took
32:24
Speaker 12: some rides on the airplane for his charitable work. I
32:30
Speaker 12: don't recall ever meeting him. Do you ever meet I
32:34
Speaker 12: did on a few occasions. And thousands of people go
32:38
Speaker 12: to the Clinton Global Initiative.
32:40
Speaker 3: Do thousands of people get honored by the Clinton Global Initiative?
32:44
Speaker 4: Hillary?
32:45
Speaker 3: Did thousands get invited to your only child's wedding?
32:50
Speaker 4: Let's bring in comic Alex Stein.
32:52
Speaker 3: Alex, what do you make of that explanation from Hillary Clinton?
32:58
Speaker 16: Well, Hillary Clinton is a psychopath.
33:00
Speaker 17: I mean she has the ability to lie better than
33:02
Speaker 17: any Hollywood actress. You know what the weirdest thing is
33:05
Speaker 17: is with this Savannah Guthrie kidnapping. You know, Savannah's husband,
33:09
Speaker 17: Michael Feldman, actually worked in the Clinton administration in the
33:13
Speaker 17: nineties and then he ran a group called the I
33:15
Speaker 17: think it's called Bickfit. I wrote it down Glover Park
33:19
Speaker 17: Group that was actually a public affairs consultant where he
33:22
Speaker 17: worked with the Clintons and basically got all their dirt
33:24
Speaker 17: off the internet. So there is a weird connection where
33:27
Speaker 17: this guy is basically like a Clinton cleaner, and then
33:30
Speaker 17: now his mother in law gets kidnapped right when the
33:32
Speaker 17: Epstein files come out.
33:34
Speaker 16: It's almost like I'm just speculating this.
33:36
Speaker 17: The kidnapping could be somebody sending a message to Savannah
33:39
Speaker 17: Guthrie not to get involved, because she's one of the
33:41
Speaker 17: few mainstream media journalists that actually interviewed one of Epstein's victims.
33:46
Speaker 16: So I don't know. With all of the weird mysteries surrounding.
33:50
Speaker 3: Napping wild that is a wild conspiracy theory, even for you, Alex.
33:55
Speaker 3: But I do know you do love your conspiracy theories,
33:58
Speaker 3: so you're the perfect and to ask this question. There
34:01
Speaker 3: are millions online on social media at the moment who
34:05
Speaker 3: are speculating about Glaiy Maxwell's newly released video. There are
34:12
Speaker 3: many who are saying this is an impostor that she
34:15
Speaker 3: looks markedly different. Her nose in particular, the say is different.
34:21
Speaker 3: It's been the subject of much analysis. Surely you don't
34:26
Speaker 3: subscribe to that sort of wild conspiracy theory.
34:30
Speaker 16: Well, Rita, of course I do. First of all, you're
34:32
Speaker 16: big on social media. You've seen those videos.
34:35
Speaker 17: Well I'm saying, you've seen those videos where they can
34:37
Speaker 17: buy a mask and it looks like Walter White from
34:39
Speaker 17: Breaking Bad, so I wouldn't be surprised. And then you
34:42
Speaker 17: saw the Daily Mail article that said that they had
34:43
Speaker 17: to use a fake body double and they got rid
34:45
Speaker 17: of Jeffrey Ebstein's body.
34:46
Speaker 16: They admitted why do they need to use a body double?
34:49
Speaker 16: So some funny business is going on. Trust me.
34:53
Speaker 3: Look, I just can't believe that it would be a fat,
34:57
Speaker 3: fake Gallay Maxwell and that she's free somewhere in the
35:01
Speaker 3: tropics enjoying herself.
35:03
Speaker 4: I don't know.
35:03
Speaker 3: I mean, I know a lot of conspiracy theories have
35:06
Speaker 3: proved to be accurate, but that's too wild for me.
35:09
Speaker 4: I'm not there yet, Alex.
35:12
Speaker 3: Now, let's talk about this case out of Minneapolis. There's
35:16
Speaker 3: been more charges arising out of a church being stormed
35:20
Speaker 3: by anti ice protesters during Sunday service. Temple University student
35:25
Speaker 3: Jerome Richardson turned himself into police on federal charges relating
35:29
Speaker 3: to his alleged role in assisting Don Lemon storming that
35:34
Speaker 3: church in Minnesota, Alex don Lemon continues to play the
35:38
Speaker 3: victim and is now claiming that he's just hated because
35:42
Speaker 3: he tells the truth.
35:44
Speaker 5: I am a great foe because I'm outspoken. The President
35:49
Speaker 5: doesn't like me. I'm black, I have a platform, I'm gay,
35:53
Speaker 5: and I am not afraid of them. I am fearless,
35:57
Speaker 5: and so to them, it's the perfect foil because Maga
36:00
Speaker 5: hates me. I tell the truth about their cult?
36:03
Speaker 3: Alex, is that why Don Lemony is mocked and maligned
36:07
Speaker 3: because he's a brave truth toe.
36:11
Speaker 17: Well, you know, to be fair, he's not one hundred
36:13
Speaker 17: percent wrong, because there's nothing more dangerous than somebody that
36:16
Speaker 17: has nothing to lose, and he's lost at all. He
36:18
Speaker 17: lost his CNN gig. He's really got nothing else to lose.
36:21
Speaker 16: So that is the most dangerous person.
36:23
Speaker 17: That's why it's always best advice not to get involved
36:25
Speaker 17: with like a homeless person if they're acting crazy because
36:27
Speaker 17: they got nothing to lose.
36:28
Speaker 16: So I would say that he's.
36:29
Speaker 17: In that position where he is a little bit of
36:31
Speaker 17: he's got a little bit of danger because he could,
36:34
Speaker 17: you know, basically become a CAUSI as situation where he Now,
36:38
Speaker 17: if we're being honest to his fans, he looks like
36:40
Speaker 17: a victim of the Trump administration.
36:42
Speaker 16: I don't think that he is. I think he deserves
36:43
Speaker 16: to be in jail.
36:44
Speaker 17: But he's able to spend that narrative and he probably
36:46
Speaker 17: got more support because of it. So you know, I
36:49
Speaker 17: don't think he's actually being that egregious when he says
36:51
Speaker 17: that he is a little bit of a threat. But
36:53
Speaker 17: you know, mag is a lot bigger than Don Lemon,
36:55
Speaker 17: and I don't think that he could take down the
36:57
Speaker 17: movement whatsoever.
37:00
Speaker 3: He is loving the attention and the victim playing this arrest,
37:05
Speaker 3: as he got a standing ovation in some Hollywood crowd.
37:09
Speaker 3: I mean, this is the golden period of his career
37:12
Speaker 3: at the moment. He's loving this. Let's talk about one
37:15
Speaker 3: of your favorite topics. Sydney Sweeney. Busty model and actress
37:19
Speaker 3: Sidney Sweeney joined the American Eagle Outfitters chairman and CEO
37:23
Speaker 3: at the New York Stock Exchange last week to ring
37:27
Speaker 3: the opening bell.
37:39
Speaker 4: He's looking great in Denham there, Alex.
37:41
Speaker 3: This follows the viral success of the Sydney Sweeney has
37:45
Speaker 3: Great Gens campaign.
37:47
Speaker 4: Which was hugely controversial.
37:50
Speaker 3: I predicted then that she will switch to woke in
37:54
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six.
37:55
Speaker 4: At some point. What do you make of that prediction.
37:58
Speaker 3: I think we are going to see Sydney Sweeney come
38:01
Speaker 3: out and just mouth all the leftist talking points.
38:06
Speaker 17: Well, to be fair, Michael Jordan would always say the
38:09
Speaker 17: reason why he didn't get involved in politics is because
38:11
Speaker 17: Republicans by sneakers too, So in that sense, she's been
38:16
Speaker 17: She's been trying to stay out of it, but I
38:18
Speaker 17: do think at some point she might benefit from doing it.
38:21
Speaker 17: She might get more roles because of it. So I
38:24
Speaker 17: don't think you're necessarily wrong. But she has navigated a
38:27
Speaker 17: pretty good so far down the middle of not being political,
38:29
Speaker 17: even though it seems like she's right leaning.
38:33
Speaker 3: Now, before you go, let's talk about actress Cynthia Arrivo.
38:37
Speaker 3: She has come out and spoken about the speculation surrounding
38:42
Speaker 3: her relationship with her wicked costar Ariana Grande. There's been
38:46
Speaker 3: talk that they are romantically involved. Cynthia has denied this
38:50
Speaker 3: and talked up the confusion of their relationship to people
38:55
Speaker 3: not being used to seeing deep and real platonic female
38:59
Speaker 3: free chips in the media. Alex, I don't know a
39:03
Speaker 3: deep and real female friendship involves just constantly crying for
39:07
Speaker 3: no reason, touching each other in public, and just generally
39:11
Speaker 3: being a little painful.
39:13
Speaker 4: I hope you'll let my friend be one of the things.
39:15
Speaker 4: Then then you're raining hand.
39:19
Speaker 1: In not the time.
39:23
Speaker 14: Helicopter were such a gift, you such light into the room.
39:37
Speaker 14: Thank you very much.
39:38
Speaker 10: We appreciate in this room today.
39:40
Speaker 14: We need we needed to come.
39:42
Speaker 2: Even through this presst or something's bothering her, she's going
39:45
Speaker 2: to make something.
39:46
Speaker 6: I know she's getting the fixing itch that, Oh thank you.
39:52
Speaker 10: The biggest pinch me moment for each of you on
39:54
Speaker 10: the set?
39:55
Speaker 15: Was it a day you arrived out on the set
39:56
Speaker 15: or some special moment that happened during the filming of
39:59
Speaker 15: this For each what was the biggest pinch Alex?
40:01
Speaker 3: I don't know what's happening there, but that necklace did
40:04
Speaker 3: not need to be adjusted.
40:05
Speaker 4: I know that much.
40:06
Speaker 3: What do you make of this Geo and Cynthia Rivo's
40:10
Speaker 3: explanation of their relationship.
40:13
Speaker 16: Well, I definitely think they're hiding something.
40:16
Speaker 17: I mean, just the way that they're just so openly
40:20
Speaker 17: affectionate towards one another.
40:21
Speaker 16: That's just bizarre.
40:22
Speaker 17: But when you watch that video, they almost look like extraterrestrials.
40:26
Speaker 17: It doesn't like it looks like it's almost an AI
40:28
Speaker 17: rendition of two human beings talking.
40:30
Speaker 16: So I hope that they both get the help that
40:33
Speaker 16: they need.
40:33
Speaker 17: I think they've both been hurt by a lot of men,
40:35
Speaker 17: so that's probably why they've connected in this weird relationship.
40:40
Speaker 3: I like that theory. The men are to blame. Alex Stein,
40:43
Speaker 3: thank you for your time. Tonight, It's still to come.
40:46
Speaker 3: The Royals rocked by even more revelations about Andrew's disturbing
40:50
Speaker 3: relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. Michael Loftus has the details.
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Speaker 4: Welcome back.
41:06
Speaker 3: Joining me now is writer and comic Michael Loftus. Michael,
41:10
Speaker 3: let's start with Whoopy Goldberg. She's denied having any involvement
41:15
Speaker 3: with Jeffrey Epstein after her name appeared in the files.
41:18
Speaker 4: Here she is on the view with her side of
41:21
Speaker 4: the story.
41:22
Speaker 18: In the name of transparency, can you put up my
41:29
Speaker 18: name is in the file? It says Whoopy needs a
41:33
Speaker 18: plan to get to Monaco. John Lennon's charity. It should
41:36
Speaker 18: say Julian Lennon's charity is paying for it. People are
41:39
Speaker 18: trying to turn me into I wasn't his girlfriend.
41:44
Speaker 4: I was for him. I was not only too.
41:47
Speaker 18: Old, but it was at a time you know where
41:50
Speaker 18: this is just not You used to have to have
41:53
Speaker 18: facts before.
41:55
Speaker 1: You said stuff.
41:56
Speaker 4: Michael, what's your reaction to that?
41:58
Speaker 3: Interesting that to support a charity she needs a private
42:02
Speaker 3: jet to Monaco. I mean I would have thought it'd
42:05
Speaker 3: jump on a plane pay for your own afairs.
42:07
Speaker 4: But put that to one side. What's your reaction to that?
42:11
Speaker 15: I feel bad for woo Be Goldberg. This is so cringey.
42:16
Speaker 15: You're yeah, she could have she could have bought a ticket,
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Speaker 15: she could have hired a jet. There's service. She wanted
42:23
Speaker 15: to be close with Jeffrey Epstein, she wanted in. This
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Speaker 15: was her excuse to ask him for a favor. And
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Speaker 15: she doesn't say his response. He just wrote back two words,
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Speaker 15: no thanks. So Jeffrey Epstein, who's world famous for like, oh,
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Speaker 15: he likes women, he likes the ladies, he likes the party,
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Speaker 15: and whoopy Goldberg is like, hey want to hang out
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Speaker 15: and he's like, no thanks. Oh, Jeffrey Epstein turned her down.
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Speaker 15: That's she's gonna be going to therapy for years to
42:54
Speaker 15: get over that, and.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the private jet thing, it's not good. Look, but
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Speaker 3: it's got to be said. There are a lot of
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Speaker 3: names in the files that aren't guilty, but there are
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Speaker 3: also names.
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Speaker 4: Who deserve far more scrutiny. In the US.
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Speaker 3: At the moment, you've got saturation coverage of this Nancy
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Speaker 3: Guthrie story, the suspected kidnapping of TV host Savannah Guthrie's mother.
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Speaker 3: It is a terrible case, but the coverage Michael has
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Speaker 3: just been completely out of whack when you consider the
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Speaker 3: coverage of the Epstein files.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, this is like watching like a pen and teller routine,
43:35
Speaker 15: Like every magician does that misdirection thing. Hey, don't look
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Speaker 15: over here, look at this, And there's so much misdirection
43:43
Speaker 15: going on. There's gonna be a beauty pageant at some point,
43:46
Speaker 15: and someone's gonna get the Savannah Guph three Glove Award.
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Speaker 15: I can tell you everything about this woman. It's wall
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Speaker 15: to wall coverage. You've got like nine billion terror bytes
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Speaker 15: of emails, videos, photograph, listen to everything with Epstein. But
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Speaker 15: they're like, ooh, what do you think, Savannah Guthrie, what
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Speaker 15: do you think? What do you think she got when
44:08
Speaker 15: she went out to lunch two years ago. I don't care.
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Speaker 15: Somebody tell me about Epstein. Tell me about people getting arrested.
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Speaker 15: For the love of.
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Speaker 4: God, Yeah, and there are people.
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Speaker 3: I had to look at some of the comments that
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Speaker 3: people are posting to media personalities or even mainstream media
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Speaker 3: outlets when they update on this story, and they're saying,
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Speaker 3: enough the coverage of this is too much.
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Speaker 4: Focus on some other stories.
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Speaker 3: Now, let's take a close look at one of those
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Speaker 3: prominent individuals featured in the Epstein files. A private email
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Speaker 3: from January twenty fifteen between Jeffrey Epstein and a journalist
44:47
Speaker 3: has revealed that the man formerly known as Prince Andrew
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Speaker 3: allegedly had consensual sex with Virginia Giuffrey at least three
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Speaker 3: times in two thousand and one when she was just seventeen.
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Speaker 3: When the pediphile financier replied, he did not correct the
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Speaker 3: journalists who stated it as a fact that the former
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Speaker 3: prince had slept with the trafficking victim.
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Speaker 4: Michael Landon. Thomas Junior, who.
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Speaker 3: At the time was with The New York Times, advised
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Speaker 3: Epstein to distance himself from Andrew because he had sex
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Speaker 3: with Virginia. He wrote, I think the big issue is
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Speaker 3: separating yourself from Andrew. I mean, in the end, he
45:26
Speaker 3: had consensual sex with Virginia, and Virginia worked for you.
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Speaker 3: The rest is atmospherics. You have moved on exclamation mark.
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Speaker 3: People don't know that and can't accept that.
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Speaker 4: Unless you say as much.
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Speaker 3: And I can't believe that We've got a New York
45:42
Speaker 3: Times writer giving pr advice, crisis management advice to a
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Speaker 3: convicted petiphile Michael, Yes, Yes.
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Speaker 15: Jeffrey Epstein, who ran like a criminal, a global criminal
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Speaker 15: organization who writers, is now saying that the it's reaching
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Speaker 15: the levels of crimes against humanity. And he's calling a
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Speaker 15: New York Times journal, the New York Times that's supposed
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Speaker 15: to be Oh, we're about objectivity and journalism and cold heart.
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Speaker 15: This is like the guy who ran the Hindenberg talking
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Speaker 15: to the gas station attendant about fire insurance. This is
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Speaker 15: the craziest thing I've ever seen.
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Speaker 18: Now.
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Speaker 3: The former Prince has also been ghosting the US House
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Speaker 3: Oversight Committee probe into his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, the
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Speaker 3: committee revealing that Andrew has not yet responded Michael. This
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Speaker 3: comes as his ex wife, Sarah Ferguson is moving to
46:37
Speaker 3: dissolve five of her companies amid this Epstein.
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Speaker 15: Fallout and Andrew Betterby, I'm sorry the artist formerly known
46:47
Speaker 15: as Prince Andrew Right now, he's just gone by a symbol.
46:51
Speaker 15: It's a question mark because he hasn't responded to the
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Speaker 15: US government wanting to talk to him. Does this guy
46:58
Speaker 15: not watch the news? If they ask government wants to
47:01
Speaker 15: talk to you, you better show up because Trump will
47:04
Speaker 15: just go and venezuela him that we will just go
47:07
Speaker 15: get We will pull a Nicholas Maduro on his pasty
47:10
Speaker 15: white butt and he will show up.
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Speaker 1: Oh tho.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a threat that anyone would take seriously.
47:18
Speaker 3: And I'm tipping his protection isn't as good as what
47:22
Speaker 3: Madua would have had, and they didn't seem to help
47:25
Speaker 3: him out too much.
47:26
Speaker 4: Now this next story, I could not believe.
47:31
Speaker 3: This story about Kim Kardashian and F one star Lewis
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Speaker 3: Hamilton that they're dating.
47:37
Speaker 4: Now.
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Speaker 3: Normally that wouldn't be that surprising two famous people getting together,
47:41
Speaker 3: except Lewis Hamilton has previously dated Kim's younger sister, Kendall
47:47
Speaker 3: Jenna Michael. Fans online are up in arms about this.
47:51
Speaker 3: They're calling this coupling disgusting. Are they being unfair because
47:55
Speaker 3: love is love and he can't help you fall in
47:58
Speaker 3: love with you know what.
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Speaker 15: I think the public is being very fair. This is disgusting,
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Speaker 15: But maybe maybe they're really trying to Maybe it's getting
48:11
Speaker 15: the most out of the day. They're gonna say so
48:13
Speaker 15: much time at Christmas dinner that you don't even have
48:15
Speaker 15: to make the introductions. I think you know Mom, I
48:18
Speaker 15: think you know him. You definitely know my sister. You
48:21
Speaker 15: know her in the biblical sense.
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Speaker 4: I don't know God.
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Speaker 15: Well, maybe he's maybe he's a race car driver and
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Speaker 15: he's just gonna speed run the whole family. Mom is
48:30
Speaker 15: on his list.
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Speaker 4: Who knows well.
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Speaker 3: Yes, Chris is looking very good these days, but the
48:37
Speaker 3: Kardashian men.
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Speaker 4: Don't do too well.
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Speaker 3: There's a bit of a curse when he comes to
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Speaker 3: men who get together with one of the sisters or
48:44
Speaker 3: even men within the family.
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Speaker 4: So Lewis Hamilton better be careful about.
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Speaker 3: That, Michael, because he's in a very dangerous occupation.
48:53
Speaker 4: He's got to be very careful.
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Speaker 3: Michael Loftis, thank you so much for your time tonight, and.
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Speaker 4: That's all the time I have.
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Speaker 3: I'll see you at eleven Tomorrow Night with Douglas Murray.
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Speaker 4: Up next, it's Newsnight.