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NFL Week 1 MNF Showdown | Jets @ 49ers | DraftKings DFS Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: The day and when at the bell Fred then the
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  Speaker 1: Fen then happen the bell had been actin.
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  Speaker 2: What's up everyone, Tyler Tamberline here aka Totagging Tambo back
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  Speaker 2: for another edition of the Monday Night Football Showdown Show
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  Speaker 2: Here on the Ship at Nation YouTube station. Our first
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  Speaker 2: Monday of the season. We rolled out the Thursday Night
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  Speaker 2: Football Show, rolled out the Friday Night Football Show. Big
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  Speaker 2: success on both of those showdown slates. With my guys,
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  Speaker 2: Hoopster and title here with me as always coming off
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  Speaker 2: a pretty solid week one and I know bring you
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  Speaker 2: in here first, Hoop really good run first first week,
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  Speaker 2: you've been hitting all these other things, you know, Mma,
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  Speaker 2: you finally gave up that streak this past weekend. But
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  Speaker 2: moving on to NFL just for for spot shy of
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  Speaker 2: a million dollars? What's going on, my friend? How you doing?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough to refocus in after these bangers starting
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  Speaker 3: off the show with like a club Ship at Nation.
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  Speaker 3: I love it, man, It's uh. It gets the vibe
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  Speaker 3: going for these shows. Those are the solid videos and.
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  Speaker 2: Even Ship Nation motivation get people like that, get them
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  Speaker 2: fired up as we great going to another good game
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  Speaker 2: for this slave, But go ahead and talk about yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was. It was a good week one,
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  Speaker 3: I'd say overall. For myself, made a run at the
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  Speaker 3: Big Milly over on fan Duel. I knew kind of
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  Speaker 3: early on. I was blocked out from first place, but
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  Speaker 3: was able to get the team up to fifth. I
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  Speaker 3: had a few busts in the lineup that, you know,
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  Speaker 3: a few more points we could have had our second Millie,
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  Speaker 3: but man thinks they're running in the right direction. I
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  Speaker 3: have a feeling I'm gonna get it done at some
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  Speaker 3: point this season number two. But the community had big
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  Speaker 3: wins all throughout the weekend, all the show down slaves.
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  Speaker 3: We saw Thursday Friday our guy Marley turning what was
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  Speaker 3: one hundred and dollars into one hundred thousand dollars. You know,
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  Speaker 3: one of the nicest guys I've ever worked with, just
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  Speaker 3: a dedicated individual and this is his passion and you'd
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  Speaker 3: love to see it pay off in a big, big,
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  Speaker 3: big way. So congratulations to our guy Big Marley on Friday.
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  Speaker 3: And like I said, I mean, there's so many members
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  Speaker 3: that one Thursday Friday last night, the main slate love
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  Speaker 3: to see it. The community off to a hot start,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, we're gonna look to build off that momentum.
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  Speaker 3: Finish strong, Finish Week one strong tonight with the Jets
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  Speaker 3: and the forty nine Ers game, and we'll break it
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  Speaker 3: all down here. But again, congratulations to everyone in the
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  Speaker 3: community that that had solid weekends.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we get another million tonight, by the way, that's
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  Speaker 2: what we're here to discuss. We're gonna get to that title.
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  Speaker 2: Bring you in man with a first Free Money Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: But as we always say, even if yesterday was it
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  Speaker 2: your day, those that they're watching, maybe you didn't win,
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  Speaker 2: didn't have the best day. Week one is not over yet.
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  Speaker 2: It's just Week one has been solid so far, but
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  Speaker 2: we got another full day ahead of us. What's on title?
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  Speaker 2: How you doing man?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're talking to me when you say
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  Speaker 4: that Free money Sunday.
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  Speaker 5: Obviously something I came up with years ago, and nothing
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  Speaker 5: is free in this world. It wasn't free yesterday. I
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  Speaker 5: actually got lucky to even get more back than I
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  Speaker 5: should have. But like you said, it's not over yet.
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  Speaker 5: Million dollars left top. I definitely did not lose a million.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't lose six figures. I didn't lose anywhere close
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  Speaker 5: to that, so that means we can get to the
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  Speaker 5: Green for tonight's game and my man a rod Is back.
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  Speaker 5: San fran on the other side. Should be a good one.
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  Speaker 5: I'm excited to see Roders make his return.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna pull it all up. But more shout
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  Speaker 2: out everybody that joined us yesterday as well, huge, huge
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  Speaker 2: Sunday show. Really excited about that to get this season rolling.
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  Speaker 2: We hope these Monday, Friday or sorry, Monday, Thursday and
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  Speaker 2: Sunday shows are all gonna be the same way. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: Thursday night we do this on the mal Media Network,
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  Speaker 2: but the Monday and Sunday with this trio at least
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  Speaker 2: is here. I'll be back tomorrow with my guy de
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  Speaker 2: Jenner seventy five busting on a first look show here
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  Speaker 2: for week two and then just earlier with Nad's we
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  Speaker 2: did the review show. A lot of good stuff on there,
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  Speaker 2: especially if you're a member wanting to know how to
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  Speaker 2: use the t on the site, we broke down some
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  Speaker 2: segments directly on how you can apply it to make
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  Speaker 2: some more competitive lineups. If you want to be a member,
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  Speaker 2: there's still time to join. I know I used it earlier,
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  Speaker 2: but everybody says, all join. I'll join a community someday.
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  Speaker 2: I'll joined someday. Why not join Monday today, Today's the
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  Speaker 2: day we left all the pricing up on the site,
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  Speaker 2: so you guys can go check that out. But let's
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  Speaker 2: get into it, Hoop. I'm gonna start with you. We
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  Speaker 2: got this game tonight here, and you know we were
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  Speaker 2: talking pre show title there. You'll can't wait to see
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  Speaker 2: Rogers back tonight and everything, but haven't seen him for
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  Speaker 2: a long time, and also didn't see him for very
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  Speaker 2: long when he was out there last time. So give
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  Speaker 2: me your first Grand Scheme overview thoughts on this game.
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  Speaker 2: The forty nine ers favored lower total, and it's actually
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  Speaker 2: trended down a little bit. It looks like the total
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  Speaker 2: went down to forty three, So give me your first
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  Speaker 2: thoughts here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you look at Rogers coming back, and
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  Speaker 3: look at what the Jets were able to do last
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  Speaker 3: season after he got injured, which was basically all but
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  Speaker 3: like four plays of the season there, complete dogshit offense,
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  Speaker 3: despite what you think of Aaron Rodgers and where he's at,
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  Speaker 3: and they have to be more productive offensively than they
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  Speaker 3: were all of last season. And he has the right
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  Speaker 3: weapons I think to kind of make it work. He
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  Speaker 3: has a running back you can dump it off to.
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  Speaker 3: He has a you know, possession receiver. He has a
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  Speaker 3: deep threat that he can throw it to a relatively
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  Speaker 3: competent tight end. So I think he has the pieces
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  Speaker 3: in place to make this offense relatively successful this season.
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  Speaker 3: The spot's not great right out of the gate, you know,
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  Speaker 3: San Francisco. Like you said, the total is low, But
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  Speaker 3: I'm the title. I'm excited to see him back on
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  Speaker 3: the field. I mean, he's been a mainstay in the
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  Speaker 3: NFL for what the better part of you know what,
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  Speaker 3: eighteen twenty years essentially, So excited to see him out there.
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  Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey is, you know, the ban some injury concerns,
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  Speaker 3: which we'll discuss. I'm not overly concerned about it. I'll
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  Speaker 3: see what you guys have to say, but yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 3: excited to see. You know what Rogers are cable doing
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  Speaker 3: last year if you have the Jets on a main
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  Speaker 3: slat or on a showdown slate, counting on a pretty
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  Speaker 3: nasty game potentially, But with Aaron Rodgers back there, I
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  Speaker 3: think we can project some offensive success for the Jets tonight.
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  Speaker 2: I think we had a lot of captain options and
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  Speaker 2: that's where we always start. We'll get there in a second,
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  Speaker 2: But first thoughts, title your overview for this game. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: everything you know with Rogers, your history being a fan,
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  Speaker 2: all of that stuff, and then the matchup that he's
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  Speaker 2: got at hand here is obviously a challenging one to
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  Speaker 2: kick things off.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, challenging on both sides. We got two good defenses,
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  Speaker 5: definitely a good secondary.
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  Speaker 4: For New York.
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  Speaker 5: The Ebo y yuke Cemac is going to get a
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  Speaker 5: lot of ownership anytime you see that. I'm not worried
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  Speaker 5: about the calf or anything. We'll get there when we
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  Speaker 5: talk about it. I mean, I still think Rogers, we
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  Speaker 5: saw the quarterbacks yesterday, Rogers is still a top third
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  Speaker 5: quarterback in the NFL. After what I saw yesterday, He'll
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  Speaker 5: be slinging at Garrett Wilson and him will have a
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  Speaker 5: lot of fun this year. Wilson will be in the
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  Speaker 5: Davante category like when he played in Green Bay with Adams.
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  Speaker 5: It's a tough matchup on both sides though, which is yeah,
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  Speaker 5: why you see the low total reflected.
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  Speaker 4: I think defenses will.
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  Speaker 5: Be really low owed Again, what was the ram yesterday,
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  Speaker 5: like four point five percent in the Millie or something
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  Speaker 5: like that. I know, Hoop and I will be different here.
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  Speaker 5: If defenses bus forever, it's going to be bad for me.
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  Speaker 5: I'm going to keep playing these defenses right in the
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  Speaker 5: mid tier as a way to get different. Hope it
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  Speaker 5: probably does go a little under two pocket passers without
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  Speaker 5: much rushing upside makes their captain ownership pretty low. But
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  Speaker 5: also it's kind of hard for me to get there
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  Speaker 5: when we get to captains. I like going more skill position,
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  Speaker 5: want two touchdown one hundred yard plus upside from someone
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  Speaker 5: that way. So yeah, it should be a good football game. Though.
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  Speaker 2: There's some chat in the discord last night too, just
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  Speaker 2: everybody going over at a shipping nation around these value
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  Speaker 2: guys getting there more at the quarter, like the quarterbacks
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  Speaker 2: are priced lower. Therefore with the value priced guys like
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  Speaker 2: a you know situation we saw last night, Cup was
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  Speaker 2: priced down from what you would expect, especially after people
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  Speaker 2: now see how good he looks again, and our guy
• 9:00
  Speaker 2: Samos and Williams, who we all like quite a bit,
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  Speaker 2: was up there as well. Who did you have any
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  Speaker 2: thoughts quickly just on the early season showdown pricing and
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  Speaker 2: how it's sort of correlating again, very small sample, but
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  Speaker 2: to these lineups and the way they've shook out so far.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, with the quarterbacks being cheaper, you're able
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  Speaker 3: to get more all star type teams in there, so
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  Speaker 3: you don't even have to mess with the full punt plays.
• 9:21
  Speaker 3: You don't have to mess and now that's honestly the
• 9:23
  Speaker 3: reason why the defenses have been so low on because
• 9:26
  Speaker 3: a lot of times you don't have to go down there.
• 9:27
  Speaker 3: You just can plug in, Like last night you plugged
• 9:30
  Speaker 3: in David Montgomery or Jamison Williams and the captain, which
• 9:33
  Speaker 3: ended up being a good move. Obviously Cooper Cup had
• 9:36
  Speaker 3: the big game, but you're able to get five other
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  Speaker 3: legit studs in the lineup. So the softer pricing is
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  Speaker 3: leading to the roster construction that we're seeing being optimal,
• 9:48
  Speaker 3: and that's why we're also seeing lower It's not only defenses,
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  Speaker 3: it's kickers as well. The ownership on the kickers have
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  Speaker 3: been way down to start the season, so people are
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  Speaker 3: able to stay in the mid tier.
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  Speaker 6: Range and not have to go down much.
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  Speaker 3: And it's worked out obviously for these first few showdown slates.
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  Speaker 3: Who was an Xavier Worthy with the Chiefs, you could
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  Speaker 3: played him up there. Then you just you can get everything.
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  Speaker 3: You just don't have to worry about any punts. We've
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  Speaker 3: seen it a lot so far to start the season,
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  Speaker 3: and I wouldn't be surprised if it kind of continues,
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  Speaker 3: to be honest with you. So it really makes you
• 10:20
  Speaker 3: have to think, like if you are going to play
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  Speaker 3: a defense or a kicker. Now, to me, like I
• 10:25
  Speaker 3: need to be able to envision like fifteen fantasy points,
• 10:28
  Speaker 3: where last season, if they get you like ten, you're
• 10:30
  Speaker 3: probably good. I think with the softer pricing, you almost
• 10:33
  Speaker 3: need to bank on every spot getting like fifteen in
• 10:36
  Speaker 3: order to make the case. And a switch that I
• 10:39
  Speaker 3: kind of made in last night's game. Again, this is
• 10:42
  Speaker 3: still early in the season. I don't know if it's
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  Speaker 3: right or wrong, but I'm just I've been just eliminating
• 10:46
  Speaker 3: all the full on punt plays and then just focusing
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  Speaker 3: on the legitimate players in the game. Again, I haven't
• 10:54
  Speaker 3: had the big hit and showdown yet. It's still early
• 10:57
  Speaker 3: on in the season. We've only had a few slates,
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  Speaker 3: but I think it's definitely take note of. Like in
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  Speaker 3: the past, with quarterbacks hitting twelve thousand in the top
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  Speaker 3: wide receivers being in the ten to eleven thousand dollars range,
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  Speaker 3: you'd have to consider a two hundred dollars player, and
• 11:10
  Speaker 3: you could almost justify it in your head by saying,
• 11:12
  Speaker 3: if this guy goes out and gets five, he has
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  Speaker 3: the chance to be on the optimal team because I
• 11:17
  Speaker 3: need those big studs that are going off just a
• 11:20
  Speaker 3: different dynamic I think with the soft pricing. So it's
• 11:22
  Speaker 3: definitely something to monitor moving forward, the true need for
• 11:26
  Speaker 3: these cheaper plays essentially like defenses in below.
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I agree with you. I think we will
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  Speaker 2: Tonight'll be you know, mess around find out this will
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  Speaker 2: be the one because they, you know, pretty much adjusted
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  Speaker 2: these guys like McCaffrey's up to almost twelve k, Garrett
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  Speaker 2: Wilson's almost ten k, Rogers nine, brock Purty ninety two hundred.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe they're a little low for what they are, but
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  Speaker 2: I'm just saying in general, there is still a situation
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  Speaker 2: night where if it is like a bres Saw, Wilson,
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  Speaker 2: McCaffrey and one other dude that you need, there is options,
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: especially when we wait and see on some of the
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  Speaker 2: injury stuff throughout the slate and who actually is gonna
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  Speaker 2: play and all of that where you could make this work.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll see how it goes tonight. Title, I'll go
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: to you to start this thing up. But before I do,
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: gott to let people know it's not a Toronto maple
• 12:06
  Speaker 2: leafs have. First of all, it's a different hat, its custom.
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: Second of all, I don't believe in any jinxes, MUSHes superstition.
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: I changed my logo for tonight. We're going back to
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: the hashtag ship it logo to ship it tonight for
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: a millie. But don't I don't care about none of
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: that stuff. You can change it all. You can do
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: it all the vibes are get better at your game.
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: Nobody cares. Work harder, practice, learn, build a process, Go
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: out there and shift. That's what you got to do.
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: You don't eat those special potions. That's not how it works.
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  Speaker 6: And what one thing before we hop into it.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, I am willing to issue apologies and take l's
• 12:39
  Speaker 3: when needed. And I have to ish an apology to
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  Speaker 3: our friend Danny heat of Ford from yesterday.
• 12:45
  Speaker 6: I absolutely shit on his vikings.
• 12:46
  Speaker 3: You know he talked about him and I meeting up
• 12:48
  Speaker 3: in the NFC Championship game. If the Lions and Vikings
• 12:51
  Speaker 3: get there. I said, his team is drawing dead. His
• 12:53
  Speaker 3: team looked good yesterday and Sam Darnold looks solid. And
• 12:56
  Speaker 3: we talked about a little bit on the show. I said,
• 12:58
  Speaker 3: this isn't just a normal backup like Sam Arnold is
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  Speaker 3: a competent passer. He got the job done. The Vikings
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  Speaker 3: got the job done. So Danny, I apologize for sitting
• 13:06
  Speaker 3: at your Vikings although it was against Danny Dimes. And
• 13:09
  Speaker 3: you know, that's another al that all three of us
• 13:11
  Speaker 3: will have to take because Danny Dimes looked like complete
• 13:13
  Speaker 3: shit yesterday.
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  Speaker 6: But congrats on the wind.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's for sure. There was, you know, multiple crimes yesterday,
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: Danny Dimes, Danny crimes. We definitely got to pay the
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: consequences for that one. We talked about Tyreek earlier when
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: we did the we did the takedown breakdown with the
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: thumbnail of the Tyreek shakedown where they had him in cuffs,
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: but he did. We did get that right. We even
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: called the handcuffs celebration, which is what happened. And we
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: saw that one. Danny Pennies and Nichols were both funny
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  Speaker 2: yesterday that people had to but.
• 13:41
  Speaker 6: At least he's banging a hot chick. That's what everyone
• 13:43
  Speaker 6: was saying yesterday.
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: Oh, he's banging so and so, so you know, he's
• 13:46
  Speaker 3: a little more motivated. That did not, you know, banging
• 13:49
  Speaker 3: the hot celeb chick did not work in his favorite
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  Speaker 3: because he looked he looked awful.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we'll see how that goes. Tight A, I'll
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  Speaker 2: go to you. Let's kick this thing off, man, let's
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: start talking captains. We got the Jets, we got the
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  Speaker 2: forty nine er side, and we have to probably start
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  Speaker 2: with McCaffrey, just because we already talked about seventeen to
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  Speaker 2: four at the Captain Salt. We've got the stone up
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: here over atchieve a nation under Showdown to Stone. Week
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  Speaker 2: one is all freeby, so we're just showing it all
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  Speaker 2: off so you guys can see the exact breakdown. If
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: there's injury risk, it's just meaning there was something around
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  Speaker 2: them that we're looking at. Cash consideration, high upside, and
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  Speaker 2: the rest are GPP. But title, I'll kick it to you,
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  Speaker 2: and I think start with McCaffrey and then maybe take
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  Speaker 2: us from there.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's gonna be by far the highest owned captain
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  Speaker 5: on the slates. He's probably gonna be ten to fifteen
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  Speaker 5: percent higher than the next highest. I mean, he's the
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  Speaker 5: best running back in football. He's minus one eighty five
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  Speaker 5: to score, which was the highest on all the slates.
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  Speaker 5: The next highest pre Saul plus one ten, Garrett Wilson
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  Speaker 5: plus one thirty. Yeah, there's no doubt I'm gonna be
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  Speaker 5: playing some McCaffrey, but to the field at his ownership,
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  Speaker 5: I think I'd rather take a shot on Devo, who's
• 14:52
  Speaker 5: gonna be a lot lower on Ayuku's gonna be a
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  Speaker 5: lot lower on. Again, it's tough matchup for them, great
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  Speaker 5: secondary for the Jets, but Debo can get there in
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  Speaker 5: so many ways.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not worried.
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  Speaker 5: I think they've been talking like a seventy five percent
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  Speaker 5: snapshare or something like that for Ayuk. Obviously he was
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: had the holdout. There's a lot of trade talks. Then
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  Speaker 5: finally the san Fran was in biting. Ayuk signs this
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  Speaker 5: big deal. I'm expecting to play majority of the time,
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  Speaker 5: so I'm not bumping him down for anything like that.
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  Speaker 5: The guys that have upside to outscore semac. Today's who
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  Speaker 5: I want to play at captain. I think that's Debo.
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  Speaker 5: I think that's Ayuk. I think that's Breeze Hall. I
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: think that's Garrett Wilson, and then Kittle for the price,
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna throw in there as well. Those are by
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  Speaker 5: far my favorite captains. Again Seemac, I'm gonna play some,
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  Speaker 5: but I doubt I'm gonna play twenty five percent plus.
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  Speaker 5: I'd rather get overweight on those other four if they
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  Speaker 5: get there. It's a lot easier to ship with more
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  Speaker 5: with less people go in that route. I don't love
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: the quarterbacks that captain, especially Rogers, like I'm talking Rogers.
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: I think he'll be good for the offense. They'll move
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: the ball. I just there's no rushing upside. I don't
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: like enough. I guess passing upside to multiple guys, or
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: he does get the captain spot and it's not Garrett
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: Wilson or Conckland or whatever that may be. That way,
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: so I probably will even exhum Perty. It can make
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: a little more sense. You mentioned it with Jordan Love
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: with all of his weapons. If Kittle catches one, if
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: Debo catches one, if you catches one, you could see
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: a spot. Perdy gets there, and he's too cheap like
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: ninety two hundred is by far too cheap for him,
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: So I'll have him in the pool captain, but he'll
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: be lower by far than all those skilled positions for me.
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: The Conklan's of the world. I know a lot of
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: people are talking about him. The Mike Williams was on
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: a snapshare Lazarre Gibson. These secondary pieces I don't love
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: nearly as much as those top guys, but I said
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: that week or the first game and likely absolutely nuke.
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: So maybe you can talk me into some of those
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: cheap guys, but mainly skill position not named SEMAC, because
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: you can get overweight on all five of them if
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: you go under on SEMC.
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: More speaking the same language early. That's to me again.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: I haven't finalized the thing. I'll have the slate plan
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: up later, but I'm always good with being underweight. I
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: don't care who it is on the super expensive captains,
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: especially on a slate when we have options. We got
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: some friends and family out here in the chat too.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Something my boy Hebrew, he said he's gonna be in
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: on Garrett Wilson for all the chiefs tonight. Eric says,
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: feels like a kittle game and who I'll throw it
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: to you on that note, because one interesting thing about
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: Kittle is usually when everybody's healthy, it's kind of when
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: we see if you get like it, but it's usually
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: like a higher scoring back and forth game. If Deebo
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: was out or something like that, he's in there to
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: block a bunch more all of that, but in general
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: you could see it. But also going against the Jets man,
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: that's a pretty tricky defense, so he could also just
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: be blocking a lot more. This game. We learned it,
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: you know, from some of these other games to night
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Mark Andrews with a bad O line up against tougher spot.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: So what is your thoughts here, Hoop on this this
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: captain spot for DraftKings.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of in lockst up with with title, and
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: it sounds like you're on the same page as well
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: with some of the guys that we're considering.
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: The thing with Kittle is he can just.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: Like go off like when you just don't expect it,
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: and that's kind of what you want for a showdown.
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: He'll randomly have these two.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: Touchdown it and sometimes you do expect, like you said,
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: if someone's out and it's a high scoring game, but
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: you know, at seventy four hundred, if he goes out
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: and gets five or six catches eighty yards and a
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: touchdown like that has the chance to be like an
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: optimal score. I think on this slate, like, I'm kind
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: of adjusting the expectations a little bit based on what
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: I think could be, you know, defenses playing solid. So
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: I am in on Kittle McCaffrey thing very interesting. Interesting.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: You know, he's going to be the highest one capy,
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: but I think there is a chance for it to
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: be lower than projected or expected because the injury concerns.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: You already see some of the questions in the chat.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Is he going to be on a snapcount? Is he
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: going to be, you know, playing all the snatch whatever
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: it may be. I think he will be, But well,
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: the does the field think that that he's going to
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: have his full role tonight? And I think there's a
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: chance that comes down. It's not going to be low
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: or anything, but it could be twenty ish range, which
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: I think is too low. So definitely like him. Breece Hall,
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: Garrett Wilson, I think I agree with you, Brew. I
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: think he's a phenomenal I mean, he has to be
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: the biggest beneficiary from Aaron Rodgers being back there and
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: the price is up there at nine to eight, But
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: I think he has a chance to nuke, you know,
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: even if they're in like a trailing game script or
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: something they auk thing is.
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: Interesting At eighty four.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: There's talk that he's gonna be on a pitch count
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: or whatever, or on a snap count. But who the
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: hell else are they gonna play? Like if he's not
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: out there, Like who's the next guy? Like, man, it's like, yeah,
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: you're looking at it, Chris Conley, Ronnie Bell, Jacob Count,
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: Like are they really gonna say, all right, you got
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: to sit out a few snaps? We're circling in these guys, Like,
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I think there's a pretty good chance
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: that he's out there a large majority of the snaps today,
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: he is going to be lower owned because of the
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: perception around the whole and the talk where they've said
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: that he might not play all this match.
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: I just don't know if I'm believing.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: I think he could just be out there for all
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: of them are a large, large majority, So I think
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: he's definitely the interesting one. Agree with the Perty and
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Rogers stuff, like I don't want to be on Rogers Captain,
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: but I could definitely see a party captain team winning it.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: So yeah, kind of you know, same page as title,
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: and it sounds like you're kind of there too.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna give a couple off the wall takes
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: just more thoughts that I wanted to bring up someone mentioned,
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: But yeah, we keep a pretty good eye on this stuff.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: We have a solid team and Juwan Jennings people were
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: talking about his injury coming in. He was moved off
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: no injury designation at all, so as of yesterday or
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: day before, he's good to go. So that's why we
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: pulled it away. So, like Hoop said earlier, I mean,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: even if you're trying to make this stuff work, we're
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: slipping them in there to look for unique lineups. It's
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: not because we think they're going to crush, just different
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: angles of approach. It's obviously gonna get you different than
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: the rest of the field. Some other takeaways I really
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: like titles take on Rogers. I think he's gonna need
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: those guys to drag him along, and even if they
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: do that, I still think they're gonna drag themselves along
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: the top. Like yes, it really helps him to check
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: it down to Breese Hall, who then takes it for
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: eighty yards to the house, but then that's also still
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: eighty yards to the house for breeshall plus other runs
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: plus all that. Rogers just need a lot to go
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: his way for that, and then I'll talk more on
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: that in a second. But like Lazard, if people are
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: playing a cheap captain, I guess they'll go there or Conklin.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: I heard a couple of those mentioned our guy Kenny.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: I don't Again, this is way off the table. I
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: don't think it's for everybody, But in one fifty I
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: will say, you know titles famous line, there's levels to
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: this shit. First thoughts are Wilson, Second thoughts are Reshall
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: it's so condensed. Third thoughts are Conklin. Fourth thoughts are
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: probably Lizard. I mean, if Rogers fits above them, sure,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: but most people are saying definitely not Rogers captain. But
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like Mike Williams just becomes the guy
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: gets a big bomb earlier or something, and then you know,
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: a couple more catches hits the bonus. At least there's
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: something to that that if it happens, you're like, well,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: I leveraged and split the difference on all this stuff,
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: and I think Hoop handled that well when it comes
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: to Ayuk because the same there. No matter what McCaffrey debo,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: people are in on Purdy, people are making a case
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: for Kittle all of that. Ayuk has sentiment around him
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: around snap counts and stuff like that, like you talked about,
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: and then also the contract stuff. They think because he
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: held Like I've heard people reading in the Disco, I
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: was reading in the Discord people saying that because he
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: held out, they're gonna screw him over and not give him.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: So they're gonna pay this man all this money and
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: then they're not gonna use him. That doesn't make any
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: sense at all to me. That's like a Jamar Chase
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: situation if you wanted to argue, where it's like, if
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: he's really gonna be this guy, we're gonna try and
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: not win games. It's like that even then they're still
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: gonna do it. But this man was paid. He admitted
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: he made it a little bit hard on them, but
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: he was paid, so I don't see why they wouldn't
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: use him. So I guess more interest in Ayuk than
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Mike Williams. But just to note it, there is a
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: couple of outsiders there, I would consider that. I think
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: there's poor sentiment around in the industry that these guys
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: could still get you different and you're still spending up.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: That's twelve six hundred dollars at the Captain for Ayuk.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: It's not free, right, not free money Monday either, right. Titles,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: So I mean you got to you gotta pay for
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: some of these guys. But any other thoughts you want
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: to put in their title or hoop anything you guys got.
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: Well, people are worried about the sauce Gardner DJ reed
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: to it like one of the best secondaries in the NFL.
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: Are those Jets guys, Tambell, I know you're like one
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: of the last people to look at individual matchups. If anything,
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: you lean into it on Showdown because it's only one game,
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: people look into it even more so. So I think
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: their ownership both of them are gonna be yeah, five
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: and six percent for those two like, but they're upside
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: compared to SEMAC being four or five times as high owned,
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: just so much easier if they do get there to
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: ship way more money. So that's that's my thoughts. But
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: I'm with rio Herett Wilson's wide receiver he's gonna.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: Be so good this year.
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I love him. What's the matchup stuff?
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: I know people will be concerned, but it's like, we
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: just don't have the luxury of being picky. Like we
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: have one game. We have limited number of options out there.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: You just can't on a full slate of games. Yeah,
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: get in there and dig into the matchups if you want. Like,
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: it's definitely not for me. I've been very clear about that.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: Tampa's been very clear about it's not my style, is
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: not his style. We're talking on one game slate. We
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: have two teams here, we have seven or eight wide
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: receivers to choose from. You just we don't have the
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: luxury being all that picky.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it is, right, That's what it comes
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: down to too. Like if I had to sit down
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: and grind the tape this morning, I wouldn't have the time.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: So it's like, thankfully I don't have to. We're gonna
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: be able to have all the tools that we need
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: over here on the site. We're gonna have all the
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: help from everybody, all the good people in the discord,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: everybody working their ass off to try and make this happen.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: So we got the details. I think that covers Captain good.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: The only thing I want to add in. Someone asked
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: about this segment that we didn't really pull in recently
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: on the last couple of shows, just about some of
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: the build styles. I know people talked about like five
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: to one Jets and Title you you look at this
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: stuff too. I put it in the slate plan once
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: I get a better idea of it as it goes on.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: But you have to just think it's going to be
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: pretty condensed on the Jets side where enough people are
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: comfortable with just like a Breeze Hall Conklin or a
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Wilson Conklin, whatever it might be. So you got to
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: think it's a four to two more four to twos
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: than three threes, and the four to two skewed to
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: the forty nine ers. For those that don't know what
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about, I'm talking about four people in your
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: lineup from the forty nine ers side too, from the
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Jets side. Is that how you're sort of seeing it
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: as well right now?
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: Title, I think it's gonna be pretty I think three
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: threes and then the four twos I think will be
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: kind to split on both sides, Like there is more.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: Maybe you're right.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: The thing, I think it'll be pretty bad. Like you
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: say it, like that three threes stand out for sure,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Not to cut you off, but just to say I
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: do think now that you say it, it's that I
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: just what type of four to.
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: Two, the Coplin that stands down there, the Lazard, the Gibson,
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: the cheap pieces down there.
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: I think that's gonna balance it out.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: The expensive players with the forty nine ers, and then
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: all the value plays are the best values on the slate,
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: which we'll get to our Jets guy. So it's gonna
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: balance it all out. You're gonna see four two's three
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: threes as much or probably a lot of three threes.
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: To be honest with you, like.
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: The jetsdeed being two k lower than the Niners d
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: people fall into people go kickers. But the four hundred savings, yeah,
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: I think more appealing Jets salarily for people. But three threes,
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: four to two, any five to one on either side
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: completely different. But if we talk about that, I don't
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: even love five ones on both sides.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: I think there can be enough.
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: Not so necessarily they're paying the rake, but I think
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: you can find four twos or three threes and just
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: make a pivot leave salary that way.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: But I think they'll be pretty pretty even on those.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, they said Ricky's in the chat he said, yeah,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: healing well after the stuff he had going on for
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: the forty nine ers. But I will say, just like
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: that makes sense to me. I think Hoop, you put
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: a good spin on it was the pricing sets it
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: up that way. But this is good anyway. We spend
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: enough time on captain. I want just to bring that
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: segment in for two seconds because when we go to
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: running back, we spent time in these quarterbacks. You can
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: go back to them if you want, But I mean
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: we kind of know what we're doing with them. Who
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: we'd use at captain why But if you are wanting
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: to get different tonight, it's it's got to be with
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: these five ones. And it's probably gonna lean the five
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: ones to the forty nine ers side just because of
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: the favorite look at their powerhouse offense, all this stuff.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: You know, people like Rogers and want to get back
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: on the action. They haven't got to play him for
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: a little while. So I see that angle two to
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: what title just said, where four two's even that way
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: or three threes would be more popular as well. But
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: if you are doing this, I mean you got guys
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: like Jordan Mason in a blowout here, if you had
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: like forty nine ers going off and talking flex. Now
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, but when you move over to position by
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: position for flex, if you had them going a five
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: to one, it could be Mason that comes in later
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: on in the game and that does it. It could
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: be they say, you know what, let's just rest Breese Hall.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: It's been three quarters, it's not going our way, and
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Braylan Allen comes in or something like that. So there's
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: kind of some setups you can do there, Hoop. I
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: don't know if you want to spend more time on
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: quarterback kind of we know what it is, but if
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: you want to go there. If not, I want to
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: start talking about running backs.
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean the quarterback stuff is. I agree with.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: What we kind of talked about in the opening. I mean,
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: both these guys are going to be fine flex plays.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: If I was choosing one for captain, it would definitely
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: be Purty. I can't imagine I'm going to get to
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers in the captain spot. Now over on FanDuel,
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: which we'll.
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: Talk about that segment.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: I think you can definitely make the case for for
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: the quarterbacks more so in the MVP spot over on
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: FanDuel than the captain over here on on Draft Kings.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, the pass catchers just have such a massive
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: advantage in Draft Kings scoring. Like any sort of pass catcher,
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: whether it's a running back that catches passes or a
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: wide receiver, they just have such a natural advantage in
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: the scoring, and more times than not. I mean, I
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: think that's what we're gonna want up top, and it's
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: obviously paid off so far this season. I mean, we
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: had what it was an Exavier Worthy Night one, and
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: if it wasn't him, I mean Rashi Rice was right
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: there with a big game. Have We had Saquon Barkley
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: on Friday Night, which was you know, pass catching running back.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: And then they got the job done in the end.
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah, same thing. So yeah, it's a likely Week one,
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: but same thing.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah likely, you know, I was likely, so likely Xavier Worthy.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Those were the two battling Friday night. It was Jayden
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: Reid and Saquon Barkley pass catchers. Last night it was
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: Cooper Cup, it was Jamison Williams, you know, battling for
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: the top spot. So I just man, those are the
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: sort of players that I want in this captain spot.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: So it's not going to be really much of the
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: quarterbacks and pretty it would just be a price point
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: played ninety two hundred.
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: He does have a.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: Little bit of running upside, and he does have these
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: games where he just spreads it out and he has
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: the options to spread out. He's got McCaffrey, he's got Debo,
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: he's got a he's got Kittle, So he has the
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: guys to spread it out to. So it would be
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: more so him pivoting over to the running backs. I mean, yes,
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: this is going to be a very simple breakdown. It's
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey. Yes, I'm going to play him in Captain.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna play him a shit ton in Flox. I mean,
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: you just got to get as much Christian McCaffrey as possibly.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: You can do whatever you want in the Captain I mean,
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: you can make the case for going underweight title to
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: kind of talk about that totally fine, But when it
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: comes to you know, fully building out your team's highest floor,
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: highest ceiling by far on the slate, you want as
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: much as you can get Sam can kind of be
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: said for Briest Hall. I think he has a big season.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: He's fourteen hundred dollars cheaper. You're gonna want him in
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: the Captain, You're gonna want him in the Flex. And
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: then you know, we do have some some cheaper running backs.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: If you are buying into the McCaffrey's not getting all
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: the snaps talk, then Jordan Mason should be your guy.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: At three k he is a moderate projection. What do
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: we have n't projected for? It looks like six, yes,
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: six at three K, that's a fine number. This Alan dude,
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: twenty eight hundred, not a ton of interest. Kyle Hughes, Chuck,
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: you know what you're getting. And then Isaiah Davis looks
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: like he's getting a little bit of a projection as well.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: The way it's gone so far, though, we have not
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: needed these guys like you just have not needed these
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: these limited snap limited upside guys Mason, Alan, any of
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: these other you know, cheap dudes. So I think I'm
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: willing to sacrifice some shares of Christian McCaffrey in order
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: to avoid going to some of these cheaper guys like
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: what is the true upside with any of these dudes, Like,
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: I really think you need twelve to fifteen from every spot.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: Can Mason get you twelve to fifteen?
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: I don't think so.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: Can this Alan dude get you twelve to fifteen? I
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: don't think so. So I'm gonna be very limited on
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: what I do with these cheaper dudes. Running back's clearly
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: all about McCaffrey and m brisol.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the chack. He's bringing it up like
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: the latest, like hours ago, which you know, Shanahan's talk
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: from this setup here is don't know how much you
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: will play yet he plays most of the game, usually
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: talking about Ayuk. Probably be surprised if he plays the
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: same amount. But just you know, he's in good shape.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: He's had a really good week, no soreness after each practice,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: He's pushed extra hard to do some other stuff. He's
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: ready to go last season.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: I think, yeah, yeah, a big leverage spot on this slate.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: I mean honestly, because people are gonna be afraid of it.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: I mean you can you can see it, and I
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: guarantee you you look at the ownership when this thing locks,
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: and it's going to be it's gonna be lower than
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: than people are are even projecting in my opinion.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a good point. Again, if you're gonna
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: get the four this is what Hoop is saying. That
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: just hasn't been the case. But if you yeah, if
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: you're gonna get four studs there, you may need a
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: little bit of a lower price guy, but it could
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: end up being someone else. Could be Juwan Jennings at
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: four K. It's not like he costs two hundred to
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: make it work. It kind of just depends on at
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: that point, what forty nine ers you're talking about. If
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be Christian McCaffrey, then yeah, you're gonna have
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: to go down a little bit. But what if it's
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Debo and Ayuk. What if it's you know, Kittle and
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Ayuk or something like that. There's other ways to make
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: it still work without go ahead, Hoop, Did you have something.
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: Else, No, sirf No, No, That that kind of wraps
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: it up.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: One other thing I want to mention earlier because it
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: was brought up. I lost the comment. I apologize, but
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: I think it is a good one. Because we're on
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: the flex, we kind of skipped quarterback. But I'll just
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: add one more point do we talked about him a
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: ton at the captain and how they work and how
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: they operate and all that, So don't feel bad about that.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: But there's definitely builds here in sort of this under
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: type game, which you know we're coming at the the
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: YouTube chat in a second. I think they're zero for
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: two to start the season. They might have a half
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: point for one of them, but still my point would be,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: you can definitely play no quarterback lineups tonight because there's
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: more than enough ways. You just talked about it. And
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: I also think I didn't see it in the chat,
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: but I know people be, Oh, these guys don't know
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: that FanDuel has bonuses. Now, we've been talking about that
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: since day one. It's still a half point PPR site
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: versus a full You still got two crazy d lines
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: coming at these quarterbacks quick. Not only can they make mistakes, fumbles, kno,
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: get the ball off enough whatever, It can end up
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: being a lot of checkdowns. What if you know Rogers
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: comes out. We haven't seen him in action for a
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: long long time. It could just be checked down, Nation
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: could be Hall Wilson, Conklin, Hall Wilson, Conklin, Little Wizard
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: for his boy and see what happens. There could be
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: those guys, there's three four guys racking them up. And
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: then on the other side, it can definitely be CMC, Debo,
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Ayu Kittle, Jennings, kickers, defenses. It can be all of
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: that mixed in. You don't need to play two quarterbacks
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: tonight in your lineup, and that's just pretty standard stuff.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: I think some some will know it already, some are
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: feeling it. Can you, yes, but remember people want to
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: play Rogers. They haven't got to play them for a
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: very long time. He's I don't know title, what's your thoughts?
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Probably next closes You're you're literally a Rogers guy, but
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Brady esque of the sort of nostalgia they're going back
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: to it, like people are just gonna want to play
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Rogers because they haven't got to play them in so
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: long and they're excited.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: Want to play them, or they really don't want to
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: play them. He's one of them guys.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: But yeah, possible, possible, But you know we you know,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: people want to see the belt come back out.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: I want to see that belt own. Everybody comes.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: He's dying. But see, you're gonna be getting some extra
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Rodgers share just because your boys back, So I don't
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: think he's anything wrong with it. I'm just making the
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: statement that's right. So any anything to add on running
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: back title, I mean, I hit it up there. My
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: thoughts are you nailed it at captain with CMC, Like
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: I really do like being field or underweight to be
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: able to go overweight on these other guys. I just
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: think there's tons of different options even within the ones
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: we've we've mentioned, but also the correlation stuff is more
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: like if you are playing a five to one. That's
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: why I brought up Mason and Alan. I'm not loving
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: them or looking to go jam them in. I'm just
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: saying if you got a five to one, it's kind
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: of funny that they would actually make sense together. Like
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Mason would be in because the game's over from that side,
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: and then why would they keep running out Breese Hall,
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: So it would make sense to get him in the mix.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: And we'll talk about like Coraley when we get to
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: wide receiver and stuff. I know a bunch of the
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: quote unquote vets. You know, at one point we had
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: the best nickname for Terry mcclaur and F zero because
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: he had zero points so instead of F one. But
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: like Drake London, he's got a couple of o's in London.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Those turned into zero. I mean they didn't actually have zero's,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: but they were just so bad that that's what it
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: comes down to it. But a lot of rookies got
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: there yesterday. So you just wonder if today there's possibilities
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: for some of these guys to get in into the
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: mix just a little bit earlier. But I'll let you
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: talk about running back title and then you could take
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: us into wide receiver from there.
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't like many like I like the backup
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: wide receivers were willing to talk to the Gibson's, Lazard Corley,
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: even Cochlan Ruckert for cheaper, Juwan Jennings, the kickers defenses
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: more than I like Braylon Allen, Jordan Mason, so Isaiah Davis, guy,
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be a lot of c Mac.
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be a lot of Breefe. Jordan
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: Mason is by far my third favorite running back. If
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: I had to choose over Braylon Allen or over Davis.
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: The thing is like, the props are awful on all
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: these guys. Plus eight to fifty to score. They're like
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: eleven rushing yards is their prop. It just it really
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: seems hard for them to outscore. Like two catches might
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: be enough from Gibson, three catches from Wizard outscores them.
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: The defenses, Like I think we just saw someone mentioned
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: it above. We talked pre show. Kirk Cousins literally looks
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: like Matt Ryan wh who is forty two years old.
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: He cannot move one bit. I hope that's not Rogers,
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: I really do, But what if that's Rogers who can't
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: literally move anywhere, lateral, can't escape sacks, and you get
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: a six sac game. So I just like a lot
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: of the other mid tier, lower priced people at other
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: positions more than I like Alan Mason. I'll expect Breese
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: and Seemac to do their work. Again, I'll play some
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: Mason really not much. Breeze Hall Isaiah Davis for two
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: hundred at running back three, I mean he might not
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: even touch the field.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: So I don't like.
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: Going there, which leads you into a receiver and receivers
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: absolutely loaded. We'll start with San fran side. Yeah, I mean,
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: if I Yuke does come off the field for twenty
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: percent of snaps or whatever that may be. That's either
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: gonna be Chris Conley or Ronnie Bell taking those snaps,
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: and both at two hundred dollars. We could if see
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: Matt goes off Wilson Breese. We've seen two points from
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: two hundred guys be on the optimal to win slates.
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: And again, if I use out more and those guys
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: catch one pass for thirty yards, that's four DK points.
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna be mixing in some Conley and Bell. I
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: like making a rule max one of those guys because
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: they're gonna be competing for that wide receiver four spot.
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: I don't know who it's gonna be.
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: We right now have Connedy projected higher, so I'd lean
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: that way, but I'll mix some of them in. It's
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: very controllon right down below, and I like that more
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: than Davis Juwan Jennings.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: We mentioned him.
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: He's got there multiple games for San Fran, great run blockers,
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: so he's on the field a lot. They run a
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: lot of wide three wide receiver sets. I'm in on
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: him already talked Deebo and a Yuk. I almost think
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: I prefer no. I like him both in the flex too.
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: I'll be playing both of them happy, I'll be overweight
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: just because their ownership looks to be held in check.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: Garrett Wilson, on the other side, complete money.
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: Mike Williams is a really interesting one because coming off
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: the torn acl already going to be on a snap
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: count and he's six.
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: Point six k.
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: Kittle's only eight hundred dollars more a Yuke's a little
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: less than two k more. But then under him it's
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: forty nine ers d at five to two, so he's
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: kind of in that dead zone. But I mean his
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: receiving props, like twenty two and a half touchdown prop
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: isn't great. It doesn't look good at six six. It
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: looks like more of a leverage play like in Chalky lineups.
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: I prefer to take a shot on Gibson, on Lizard,
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: Blazard and Rogers. We already know the rapport there. Then
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: I'll take a little Cory too. He's a big play guy.
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: He's a rookie for him. If Mike is limited a
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: good amount, I think he'll mix on the field. Gibson, though,
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: will be the wide receiver three the slot guy. Lazard
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: will mainly benefit when Mike Williams is off the field
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: because Lazard will play the outside opposite of Garrett Wilson.
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: So Gibson's my favorite guy right in that range, even
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: more than Lazard. And you can see ownership is a
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: nice little discount there off of Lizard. So yeah, rounding
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: out receiver obviously, Debo, I you Garrett Wilson, Jawan Jennings
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: wide receiver three will be in. I like Gibson, I
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: like some Lizard. And then I want you guys to
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: talk on Conley and Bell too. If you guys are
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: rotating him.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: In, you you are the best man because you segued
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: it right over to me. What I was about to say,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I love.
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: Most once in a while, tambo, I.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Love it, man, I love my boy title. And I
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: was coming at you, but I'm going to give you
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: a rebuttal. But you literally put it on a platter
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: for me because I was gonna say, what the funniest
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: part of my guy title is he always it's like
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: the members that are like, oh, I'd made these groups.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: It feels like I need to make a lot of groups.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: One group there's absolutely no chance you need to make
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: is separating Conley and Ronnie Bell, who would just barely
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: show up on their own, let alone never in the
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: same lineup. It's borderline impossible.
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: An if it did one, you're burning that lineup.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: I'll make sure it's none the King of ev Okay,
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: we'll give it to him, but he knows too well.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: But I think that one you won't need. But I
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: really love the Gibson call. It was actually Bader Bear,
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: who's in here somewhere, talking about not being able to
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: get work done, and I was trying to go back
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: and find it. Man, I can't hear too many comments.
• 40:46
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• 40:48
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  Speaker 2: keep them rolling. But what's interesting is, like the Lazarre
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Rapport thing is another one just has to be out
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: a hand. I've seeing Cobb come along at two hundred
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: dollars on Rogers slates and not get the job done.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Now we're paying ten x for it because he knows
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: Lazard and their buddies, Like Gibson could definitely be the
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: guy we brought him up last season, could be the
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: guy well, you don't know Williams, Wilson, Paul Conklin, There's
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: just so many other dudes that at twenty something plus ownership.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: If that's what Lazard actually gets to people, putting them
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: at captain all of that, it can work. I'm not
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: saying I'm fading them. I'm saying that it's just talking
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: through the slate. It is interesting that people just ought
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: to assume certain things and who I'll kick it to
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: you on this one. But like Garrett Wilson, we're gonna
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: have a guest the fantasy points tonight. Shout out to
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: our guy Junior. He's given away. He won some money
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: in it. Last night. We do this contest in our discord.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: I gotta think I'm putting Garrett Wilson up to see
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: if anybody ever finally gets the prices right figured out,
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: because last night nobody said less than nine points I
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: think on a monro Saint Brown and he got what
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: four I think it was. So is there ever a
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: possibility that this defense gets after Rogers, he doesn't get
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: the ball out quick enough and it ends up being
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: like Hall, Conklin and the forty nine ers just smashing
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: and it's not Garrett Wilson, who's gonna get popular the
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: more and more as the day goes on.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: In this sort of matchup with these two defenses, I
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: think you can make the case for just about anybody
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: busting outside of McCaffrey, I'd say, I mean, McCaffrey is
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: just so safe. They probably get like twenty Fantasy points.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: But I think you can definitely make the case for anyone.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: There's nobody else on this slate. If you said, oh, Man,
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: so and so, you know, got twelve Fantasy points less
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: than projected, I would be shocked. You know, McCaffrey would
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: be probably the only one. I mean, Breece Hall could
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: bust in the spot. I mean forty nine ers if
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: they want to shut his ass down, I think they
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: have the defense where they could find a way to
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: really really limit what Breecee Hall does. So I would
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: not be surprised. I don't think Garrett Wilson is a
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: slam dunk play. He is my favorite play on the slate,
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: But there is bust. There is bust potential with Garrett Wilson.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: You start looking at the rest of the wide receiver. Yes,
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: I like a lot of these guys, but I guess
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: it just goes to the point that you're just kind
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: of making there that man, all these guys have low
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: floors tonight, even Deebo I think has a low floor.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: The two most stable wide receivers, Garrett Wilson Deebo. After that,
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: you know, Brandon Auk I happen to like him. I
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: think he's going to be on the field way more
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: than whatever this coach talk is about.
• 43:23
  Speaker 6: You know, maybe not all the snaps. I think he's
• 43:25
  Speaker 6: just going to be out there.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: When you look at the guys that would be replacing him,
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: like in any key spot in this game, Ayuk is
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: going to be out there.
• 43:33
  Speaker 6: When they're in the red zone.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: He's going to be out there, Like maybe a couple
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: of plays around the forty or fifty yard line he
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: takes a break for a minute. I don't cave a
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: shit about those plays. I want him out there when
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: they're scoring touchdowns. I think he's going to be out there.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: Mike Williams risky play. You know they're going to take
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: a shot at Mike Williams at some point when he's
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: in the field. When he's on the field, Aaron Rodgers
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: is going to try to throw a bomb to him
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: at some point. Does he catch it? Probably not, but
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: if he does, he's on optimal one play. That's all
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: it's gonna take with him. Alan Wizard at two K.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: I am interested just because, man, I've seen what Aaron
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: Rodgers liked. If Wizard comes in and he makes a
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: good catch right out of the gate, Aaron Rodgers will
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: continue to.
• 44:16
  Speaker 6: Go back to him.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: If he's on the field and he makes a play,
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers will continue to give him opportunities until he
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: fails him. So for that reason, I'll be in on him.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: Do I like the projected ownership?
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: What do we have it at? Yeah? Twenty one? Yeah,
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: that ownership sucks.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: Like yeah, two K wide receiver at twenty percent not great,
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: But I just can't avoid the spot two K. I
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: know the quarterback likes him, and I know if he
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: makes a play, he's gonna get the opportunity to make
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: more plays. So for that reason, I like Wizard. Jennings
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: at four K. I think is is fine. You know,
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: probably prefer him more if I'm playing pretty captain teams.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: If you have a pretty captain team, like that's the
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: spot where I want where I want Jennings Gibson. I
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: think you can mix in.
• 45:02
  Speaker 6: The two hundred dollars wide receivers.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: I'm probably not playing just because I'm banking on the
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: fact that it's gonna be IOK out there in majority.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: I just don't know how many opportunities Conley or Bell
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: we'll truly have them, to say, but a lot of
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: options here. But there's no like slam dunks, which I like,
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, it makes it fun for showdown.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's always these tibets, people throwing the chat and stuff.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: People look like when like three years ago, Like, yeah,
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: it's what he wants him to be, and that's what
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: he will be and what he was when he had him.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: But these people are just forgetting. The guy hasn't played
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: in forever too so hopefully he proves us wrong. We're
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: gonna be in on him. But by the way, breaking
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: news more Aaron Rodgers shares tonight we're getting a shirtless
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: Rogers for two seconds on handle if that's not PG
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: thirteen or whatever. But Netflix announced the three part docu series.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: This is the type of stuff I want to I
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: want to see Aaron Rodgers docu series. This guy's like
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: a Joe Rogan on even more drugs and in dark
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: rooms and figuring shit out and talking about it. I
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: want to see what else is going on fly on
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: the wall type shit, not just you know, figuring out
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: is he gonna go back to his prime tonight? That's
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: that's kind of the other spot of it. So Jennings Gibson,
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: I guess with the two that stood out some Corley
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: shares I'm okay with as well. I think both those guys,
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Gibson Corley, That's where maybe maybe I'm the I'm wrong
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: two title, But at least there I would set a
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: group because just in case, and they're a little bit
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: more cash than two hundred dollars guys. But I would
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: see if those guys get into the mix and Lazard's whatever.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna play some just because, but I'm not thrilled
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: about it, especially because of the ownership and because I
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: don't think just because somebody likes someone who I think,
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: we're friends. You like me, you want a bunch of
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: money last night, you're just gonna ship it over, you
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: know what I mean. We're good friends, but you don't
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: that doesn't mean you're gonna do everything.
• 46:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I get I get that point.
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: But it's history, man, and you know what they say,
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: history repeats itself. And Aaron Rodgers has a history of
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: doing this with the guys that he is loyal to.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: Like there's one reason Allan Lazard is on this team
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: is because, yeah, exactly, lewis Robert there and Fux up right.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: If Gipson makes one mistake, Aaron Rodgers is pointing to
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: the sideline saying, give me my boylizard and let's roll.
• 47:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: I agree on that stuff, but I mean everyone said it.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: When Cobb got brought over, it was like congratulations.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: Was like he was like he was like so old
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: for a wide receiver at the time.
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: Bozard's gotta be that's right, Tambo.
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: He's like, here's your three million, one year.
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: Three million might not do much, but you're in the
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: locker room with me in the homie that way.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: And people actually said that Cob had again this is
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: just conspiracy and jokes, but they said, like, what does
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: Cobb have on Rogers to get him pulled over when
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: he's probably not getting another contract to be like, hey,
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: I got those pictures, Aaron, I got that news, I
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: got that video. Get me on your team right now,
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: get me another quick three million, and this will all
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: go away.
• 47:45
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: He's got his friends, Rogers always got his boys.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: He can make that stuff happen. So all right, let's
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: move on. Then let's go to the tight end talk.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: I guess title I'll go to you because I don't
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: think you responded to this one or even like we
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: thought we talked through it a little bit like the
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: Kittle stuff with you know, Debo, everyone's healthy, but usually
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: when Kittle goes off, it's in everyone's healthy and it's
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: a back and forth type big game, you know, over
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: the top, seventy yard catch and a couple in the
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: end zone all that. Can you do it here? Sure
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: it's a tough d they're gonna be covering other guys
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: all that stuff. It makes sense. But what's your thoughts
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: on Kittle? And then take us through the rest of
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: the tight end position.
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm in on Kittle. There's no doubt about that.
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: I think, especially people I'm playing on uk I'm playing
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: Debo playing the pass catchers mainly because the leverage off
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: a CMAC and his captain ownership.
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: But Jets are most exploitable in the middle of the field.
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: And one thing Kittle has going for him is he's
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: one of the best yards after the catch guys out there.
• 48:42
  Speaker 5: So whether it's a tight end screen, he just cars
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: him up in the middle because Reed and Sauce on
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: the outside, you have him locked up.
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: I think Kittle is a very, very solid play.
• 48:52
  Speaker 5: We've seen the upside multiple times plus one eighty to score,
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: which is one of the best on the slate.
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: You go, look at what we have for this twenty five.
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: Percent in the flex ownership, six percent in the captain.
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: That's really held in check for a guy with that upside.
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: So I'm gonna be overweight Kittle, There's no doubt about that.
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: I'm really hoping it's DEEBOYU Kittle.
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: Pretty much any of the stuffs not named McCaffrey, I
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: think at the end of the day, I'll be happy with.
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: And again I'm gonna be playing some McCaffrey. But at
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: twenty five percent captain, I know I we'll have less
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: than that. I'm hoping one of these guys get there.
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: Kittle at that price might even be my favorite over
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: IUK or Debo two, but it's all close. I definitely
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: like him as far as the only other tight ends
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: in play Cochland know he is going.
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: To be pretty popular. Rogers licens tight ends.
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: He likes his checkdowns though, so that's chalk relative chalk
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: for his price that I'm good with.
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: And then the backup tight end is Jeremy Rucker.
• 49:46
  Speaker 5: Guy I don't know, like he's someone that it feels
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: like if he got five points. If you think five
• 49:52
  Speaker 5: points might be on the winner at twelve hundred, because
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: it gets you all the top guys, I'd include them
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: a little bit.
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: But I don't love the upside for game really too much.
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: Two tight on sets mainly the block for retaul and
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: type of stuff like that, or goal line. Rogers finds
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: his tight end three on the goal line and had
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: the formation stuff like that. But it's hard to get
• 50:11
  Speaker 5: too excited about Rucker conkling Kittle.
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: I like it though.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: I like Mitch where you're at here. You know, didn't
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: have luck on the main slate, but did on Thursday
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: and Friday. Let's get back to that. That's a game
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: selection or even like just thinking about game types in general.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: Sometimes people are better at a certain type of game.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: When there's only one game at hand, maybe you can
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: think a little bit more about it. You can find
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: different angles in you can do different game theory, different
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: leverage angles, all that stuff versus on a main slate.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: So much to consider, So you really should think about that.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: That's something we talk about all the time at ship Nation,
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: where you're setting yourself up for your process, your plan.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: If you're better at Showdown, I would stick to it,
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: and I would invest more money into it. I've actually
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: had better success recently with Showdown in the last year.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: I had really good success on the main slate throughout
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: the year, but it was you know, Showdown is my
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: favorite game, I should say it that way. And I've
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: still had good success with that last night close all again.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: So I really like Showdown. I put the time into it,
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: I put the money into it. I think you should
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: do the same.
• 51:03
  Speaker 6: Hoop and yeah. Yeah.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: Our content at ship a Nation reflects that too, Like
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: we value the Showdown slates just as much as the
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: main slates. You know, our PGA product, the Showdown portion
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: of the product was I mean, I think industry leading.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: I mean you go to the Showdown contents and the
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: contest in the PGA streets, Ship and Nation logos r
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: at the top of every single contest. Basically every single
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: slate because of the work that our team puts into
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: those slates. Same could be said for NFL. Yes, we
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: have everything on lock for the main slate, but we
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: also do full content for Showdown. We're not just saying
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: all right, here's a few core plays for you for Showdown.
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: I mean we have the stone tool that you have
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: upright here fully dedicated to each and every Showdown site.
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: We could easily just say, you know what we're just
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: doing for this for the main slate, you know, well,
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: you know handle just core plays and stuff for the Showdown.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: So that's not the case. We put full effort in
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: for for Showdown slits well, and that a lot of
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: people had huge success in Showdown this week, so you
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: love to see that.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: Real quick because great point. I think this is a
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: point that's brought up. Like again, we said for this week,
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: we're going to keep this all up but high upside,
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: that's exactly what we're calling out. And I know some
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: people know it already, and that's good for you. This
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: is a place you can have it all in one
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: shot to be able to see that. But like you says,
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: Kittle can get you thirty or three. That's the definition
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: of high upside. We know there's going to be some downside.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: If there's upside, it's got to be downside how things work,
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: So you know, you look at it from that perspective,
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: you can find some of that. And actually just thinking
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: it through before I kick it back to you Hoop
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: on the tight ends, was just thinking about brock Purdy.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: If I'm using them tonight, it's actually probably more at
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: captain because in the flex it's probably the game just
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: didn't go his way, got hammered out a little bit.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: You know, it didn't actually happen obviously. For putting Iu
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: or Deebo or those guys up top, then yes, But
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: for the most part, I'm saying I may use them
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: more up there because I think when you look at
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: it on paper now that we talked through this whole slate,
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: it's like, man, look at these weapons. McCaffrey, Deebo, Iu,
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: Jennings was fine even in big games. Kittle just the defense,
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: everything they got going versus we know what it is,
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: Haul Wilson. We don't really love this shit. We're just
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: making up stories about it. Conklin maybe checkdowns, it's like
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, you could see Perdy throw
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: three touchdowns and that be enough. And one of them's
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: to McCaffrey, one of them is to Auker Jennings, and
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: one of them is to Kittle, and then it's pretty
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: up top and it's separated a little bit. So I
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: just think that's another angle I look at. And the
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: Stone has it here too. Our simulations when we do
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: it out with our projections versus the salaries, he's actually
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: not coming in that high at the captain, but we've
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: got him popping in at the captain much more than Rogers,
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: which makes sense, and so we are finding captain leverage there.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: So it makes sense when you really talk through the
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: whole slate and then think about it. And I've been
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: down a little bit on these jets throughout the show,
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: so now it makes even more sense that I could
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: lead it that way. So I don't know, just another
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: interesting tidbit. Anything you want to round out on tight
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: end hoop, if not kickers and defenses to round out
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: the slate for DraftKings.
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: No, that's a good point though, on the uh party stuff.
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: I mean, because you know, you need to be able
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: to visualize how it happens. How does Perdy become the
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: optimal captain mall it is the forty nine ers scoring
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: probably twenty five points, at least twenty five actual points
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: and three touchdowns going to three different guys. Could we
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: see a game where Perdy throws one to McCaffrey, to
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: Debo to Kittle. Yeah, absolutely, picks up maybe twenty yards rushing.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: So that's a good point. You know, maybe you know,
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: bump the party stuff a little bit. I like that
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: call in terms of tight end. Yeah, the message someone put, Yeah,
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: Kittle can get thirty or three. That's the reason why
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: you play him in captain because we've seen it so
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: many times.
• 54:42
  Speaker 6: That's what you want.
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you play him in the captain and he
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: gets three, yeah, sure it sucks. But if you play
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: him in the captain you're overweight and he gets thirty.
• 54:49
  Speaker 6: You like that.
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: So you want the volatility in showdown. That's what Kittle provides.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: And yeah, it's very rare where Kittle goes out and
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: has like a I don't know what would be an
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: average for him, four catches sixty yards in a touchdown
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: like usually doesn't happen with Kittle. Usually he's just nothing
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: or everything. And you know, with this defense, the Jets cornerbacks.
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: You never know, it could just be him, so interested
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: in him. And then Conklin, for sure, I think is
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: a great flex play. It looks like some people want
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: to play him and captain. That will definitely not be me.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: And then Jeremy Rucker twelve hundred. Yeah, probably blocking, but
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: you know he could potentially find the end zone. I mean,
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: you never know that teams do these big packages at
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: the goal line, and you know the random tight ends,
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: you know, sneak their way into the end zone and
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: no one sees them. They catch a touchdown. That could
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: definitely be a Rocker at some point. So interested in
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: him as well, And that's it.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say exactly what you said. That's
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: how you see him. He's in there to block. All
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: of a sudden he rolls out of it, Boom, he's open,
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: catches the touchdown. That's the record play right there. And
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: Love Love MMG always in here providing good little tidbits
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: and stuff. And I had to go back and I
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: pulled it up and at first I was reading it,
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: then I understood it afterwards talking about Williams. But that's
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: the thing, right, that's what I that's literally exactly what
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, and that's why I said it the way
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: I did is the trends are made to be broken,
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: like that's a one little thing. But like Hoop said earlier,
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: that's the key about Showdown and why some do better
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: at it than others is little situational items where you
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: don't know how it's going to go. It's one game,
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: one slate, one night, that's it. Trend can be broken
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: in a heartbeat, and if it could be broken in
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: a way that ends up paying off, what's the best
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: way to pay off Purty would be captain or fade,
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: and you're fading, But I'm saying if I was going
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: to use more of them, it would be at the
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: captain for that reason. So definitely don't hate that. Who
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: real quick. Kickers and D we talked a little bit
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: about them earlier, and you've been talking about on the
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: last two shows, But anything you want to add on
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: Kickers and D.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're seeing lower ownership on both across the board
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: through the first few slates of Showdown, and that's mostly
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: due to the fact that the pricing has been pretty soft,
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: but also we've had some of the better offenses teams
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: on these slates. I mean, we've had the Chiefs, We've
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: had the Ravens.
• 57:05
  Speaker 6: Eagles, Packers, Lions, Rams.
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: Those are some elite offenses in the NFL, so people
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: really don't want to get on the defenses. I think
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: tonight could be a little bit different because they view
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: both these defenses as pretty good. The Jet forty nine
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: ers come in at fifty two hundred, though, so that's
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: a little more expensive. The price tag should keep them
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: in check, and then the Jets at thirty two will
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: be in check. I could see it a little bit
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: more the ownership, but I'm doing the same thing I
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: always do. I know it's boring, put a moderate projection
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: in there. If I get some, I get some. If
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: I don't, I don't kickers continue to be overweight on kickers,
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: I just think they're underpriced. On the showdown sites, We've
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: got Moody at forty eight, zero line at forty four.
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: You could definitely see both these offenses stalling if they
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: get into the scoring range, into the red zone and
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: could lead to some field goals.
• 57:56
  Speaker 6: So overweight Moody Zer line defense just doing the same
• 58:00
  Speaker 6: thing I always do.
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: Some double kicker lineups. Dude, don't forget about those. People
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: seem to hate them for whatever reason. Our boy Rob
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: Rob Mazeka out here says, you know, Jets are so
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: close to the rocket ship emoji, so clearly a five
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: to one Jets stack will ship it tonight. That's definitely possible.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: I could see it. It's a Canadian blue flag. Just
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: gonna clarify for everybody. And then title, I'll let you
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: talk about Kickers in DNA and you want to add there.
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: I'm going to play a lot of them. By far.
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: My least favorite is Jets defense, though pretty gets the
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: ball out fast, a very good Shanahan offense, I don't
• 58:32
  Speaker 5: I think you're more likely needing a big pick six,
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: a putt return, something like that, Whereas I can see
• 58:37
  Speaker 5: Niners again if I love Rodders, we keep talking about
• 58:41
  Speaker 5: Rogers at the end of the day. We haven't seen
• 58:43
  Speaker 5: them play in a long long time. I didn't think
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins was gonna look that bad yesterday, and that
• 58:49
  Speaker 5: could be Rogers. If he can't move in the pocket
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  Speaker 5: and they just send them, Bosa gets them, they send pressure.
• 58:54
  Speaker 5: There could be five plus sack upside here in a
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: really bad Rogers game. So overspending for the forty nine
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  Speaker 5: Ers defense fifty two hundreds a lot, but I can
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  Speaker 5: see upside against Rogers if he's not really mobile. I
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  Speaker 5: like both Kickers. I think they're very, very fairly priced.
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  Speaker 5: I'll probably be overweight to Niners D both Kickers Jets.
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  Speaker 5: What we have them at ten or fifteen percent. I
• 59:20
  Speaker 5: wouldn't be surprised if that was like ten percent, And
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: if that's the case, maybe I'm somewhere around eight percent
• 59:25
  Speaker 5: something like that. But they're the one. I definitely like Lease.
• 59:28
  Speaker 5: I like the other three. I probably hope one of
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: them is optimal.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: Hoop's gonna talk to us about FanDuel in the second here,
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: But first we got to get the game roll in.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: So we do both, but you know, put it over
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: under forty three. That's what we want to know. First.
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  Speaker 2: Our guy ars sixty ninety one. Hoop said, first two
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: games were high scoring, so now we're going to get
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: a low scoring one in title. You do the casino
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: a little bit, mostly poker, but you know, you rulette.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: You know the game it's read twice in a row.
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: It has to be black. This next one has to
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  Speaker 2: be It was just read twice in a row and
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  Speaker 2: then red red red red red green double zero red, Like, yeah, it's.
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  Speaker 4: Just not how absolutely nothing, no.
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  Speaker 2: Chance, it means absolutely nothing, to be honest. Last night
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  Speaker 2: was kind of the under game, like that was the
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  Speaker 2: game we were expecting that last drive where the rams
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: first of all, just went the length of the field
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  Speaker 2: like it was nothing. Was expecting more of that all game.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: And then on top of it, in ot same thing,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: Detroit just did it too and bing bing bing bing
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: all the way up and just wins it and ends
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: it with a walk off. So, I mean, anything can
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: happen at any given time, but it looks like a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people. Is there even one over under under
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  Speaker 2: under under under under twenty one? Twenty under under under Joanne?
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  Speaker 2: Joanne comes in with the overhammer. So it's about thirteen
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: to one unders. Okay, we got to do this last one.
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  Speaker 2: And then Whop talked us about fanduel'll pull it off.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: You talked this about.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's really not too much in regards to to FanDuel,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: I mean just pulling it up. The pricing looks like
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: it correlates pretty similarly to fan duel. There's not like
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: a standout cheap option that that I think a lot
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: of people will go to you know, Lizards at seven K,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: Jennings at eight K, Gibson seventy five, Mason seventy five,
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  Speaker 3: Mike Williams nine K.
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  Speaker 6: Conklin eight K. It's just very similar.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing really stands out McCaffrey seventy five hundred, Pretty fourteen
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: to five, Breeze Hall fifteen K, Aaron Rodgers fourteen K.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: It's just not an exciting style as is. And then
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: there's nothing that really stands out pricing. The kickers are
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: both eighty five hundred forty nine Ers Defense ninety five
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: hundred Jets Defense nine K. I don't know, nothing really
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  Speaker 3: stands out in fandweil to be honest with you tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Let me ask you a more question then, just because
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: you obviously made a milli yesterday and we did hint
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: at it a little on this show already, But just
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: to clarify, did you notice any big difference yesterday besides
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: the obvious with those bonuses involved? But like, was it
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: any other standout points that came about that you could
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: apply to showdown slates differently or anything like that.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, the one thing I did want to point out.
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  Speaker 3: I did not look at the actual ownership because we
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: talked about it a little bit. I'm gonna pull it
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: up right now because I do want to see kind
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: of what ownership those guys came in at on the
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: later the later game. So Cooper Cup, Yeah, it didn't
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  Speaker 3: really have any fact Cooper Cup was twenty four percent.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: He stood out as a cheap play on the slate,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: underpriced at at seven thousand, So that was really no surprise.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: What was like a Monra, That's what I'm wondering, because I, yeah,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: hadn't been popular.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, like maybe he looked awful. He looked really bad.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: When who was looking at that?
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 5: Just my quick thought on FanDuel Rogers is gonna be
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 5: pretty squeezed like low own relative to what quarterbacks usually
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 5: are on FanDuel. Threes projects a good amount better for
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 5: onek more. Pretty definitely projects better for only five hundred
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 5: more and a lot of people want a damone CMC,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 5: So that was one of the biggest things that stood out.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 5: I think Kittle gets squeezed with Yuke one k lower
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 5: debo five hundred more, so I think that's a pivot
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 5: spot West Clear Upside and then Niners d looks a
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 5: little expensive at nine to five, but overspending maybe in
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 5: lineups like that, I think defense makes some sense, but brilliant.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 5: You don't play McCaffrey at MVP like yesterday. Quarterbacks are
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: obviously Stafford Golf got majority of the ownership.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: You played cup. The winning lineup wasn't crazy on Showdown
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: on FANDO. So always when there's one or two concentrated
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: MVP plays, any pivot off of that that you can
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: see has upside, whether that's Garrett Wilson today, Breeze Hall
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: Rogers debo. If they do outscore McCaffrey, you have way
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: way better chance to ship with a very few people.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you on that, and uh Fandula makes
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: it a little bit more interesting because of that, because
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: McCaffrey just gets plugged in. And that's why I asked
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: Whop that question, because the bonuses didn't really if they
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: didn't outweigh it all again, you're not getting full point PPR,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: so that you know this goes both ways. But from
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: what you say minus one to eighty five touchdown prop
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: on them like you'll get two. He's probably just as
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: favorite it or more than some people already get one,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: So it's like he's just gonna set up as the
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: guy if they're up. People saw what it might be
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: a blowout, and we talked about Mason early. You could
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: play McCaffrey in the in the Captain and Mason in
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: the flex in a blowout because McCaffrey did all the
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: damage and now it's Mason that goes to work later
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: on and takes out a bunch of those dudes in
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: a blowout like Lizard, Gibson, Corley, all these guys that
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: he could beat up. So definitely think there's opportunity. And
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: in certain builds like that, we talked through a bunch
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: of different strategy when it comes to that. The chat
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: spoke I put their quote up today they're being quoted.
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  Speaker 2: This one's official forty nine ers and under is the
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: breakdown here. So Beatlebin, you know coming for everybody right
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  Speaker 2: now knows the old way to go for your heart right,
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  Speaker 2: go right for that double differ, get that Gibson and
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: jets D and then just get all those forty nine
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  Speaker 2: ers guys in around it. But hoop, go to you men.
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  Speaker 2: Title gave his final thoughts. Anything else you got to
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  Speaker 2: talk about before we get out of here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of like the Jet side tonight. I don't know,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: just kind of a feeling. It seems like, I don't know,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: maybe a leftown spot for the forty nine ers first game.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I kind of like the Jets side of things a
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: little bit, a little bit here tonight.
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  Speaker 6: I love the.
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  Speaker 3: Call on Garrett Wilson. I know a lot of people
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: like him. I think he's a key tonight to what.
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