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Faith Can Dictate How You Vote without Making You a Theocrat · The Wes Carroll Morning Show

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The news, opinions, commentary and interviews. You need to start your day
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and you're listening to The West Carrol Morning Show. Wednesday morning, tenth day
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of April. I'm Wes, thanks for joining me midweek. Zipping on through
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this week is what we're doing. That's what my good friend Scott Miller would
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say. I want to talk this morning about a topic I started to talk
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about yesterday and decided let's put a pin in it because I was talking about
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something else, but it related a little bit to this. It was on
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the issue of abortion. I think it's important that we address a couple of
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things when it comes to faith and politics. And I've talked about this before
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in some capacity, but it's starting to rear its head now with the abortion
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discussion. It has reared its head when it comes to migrants coming into the
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country illegal and some legal, some illegal, a lot of illegal ones that
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have come into the country. And it relates to a number of different things.
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It relates to some of the assistance programs. It relates to this notion
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of universal health care, and I talked about one of the dangers of that
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in the last week or so. But I just want to touch on a
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couple of things as it religion and faith relates to politics here in America,
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because we know one of the reasons that our early settlers came and that the
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founders came, was because they were trying to get away from a number of
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oppressions that they felt were happening. Even after settling here, they felt like
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there were oppressions that were in place coming from the homeland, right coming from
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England. And that's when they decided to draw a line in the sand,
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and they came up with this notion of a separate country, this idea that
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is America. I don't have to go through the whole. Some may need
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to hear it. I don't know. I don't know where people are.
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My listeners here probably have a pretty good grasp of how things were founded and
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settled. But when it came to establishing a constitution for this land, when
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it came time to establish the Bill of Rights, right there, front and
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center at the beginning was this idea that there'll be no laws restricting the practice
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of religion in this country. That was the essence of what they were going
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for. They didn't want a federal government telling people that they could and could
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not worship. They wanted to keep it out. Did it mean that our
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founders were basically somewhere on this spectrum. Some of them were Deists, some
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of them were actually Christians, some of them Catholic. I guess, just
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depending on you know, what got them here in the first place. And
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when I talk about just the early settlers, because obviously not all of the
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all of the early settlers here weren't all from the same place. Many of
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them were. But you know, over time we became that melting pot that
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we are. But the idea was that you'd be able to come in and
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you'd be able to practice your faith here, that you'd have the opportunity to
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do that freely without a government restricting your ability to do that. At some
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point someone came up with this notion and idea that there was going to be
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a separation of church and state. That terminology came along, and suddenly it
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definitely had an impact on the way that our First Amendment is legislated or the
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way that it is judged, and it changed the whole conversation. Now in
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many instances, just speaking as a person of faith, speaking as someone who
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is a Christian, someone who puts my faith first and foremost. Right,
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it's more important to me than anything else, So that's first and foremost for
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me. It has an impact on why I am a conservative. And there
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are folks on the left who say, well, Conservatives, they don't have
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any compassion, they don't have any sense of charity. They are just greedy
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and that's all they want. We're gonna get that in the second. But
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this notion of separation of church and state from a place that basically tells people
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all the time, they're going to restrict your ability to practice your faith in
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certain cases, not all cases, but certain cases. See the people who
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tend to gravitate in the general area of faith that our founders had often kind
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of get told you've had your day. We're going to let some of these
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other groups come in. We're going to let people that come from countries that
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want all of Israel wiped off the map, all Jews to be exterminated.
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We're going to let them come in the country and scream and yell and call
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for a complete elimination of the Jews. Right, that's what some people want,
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and they're protected. Their free speech gets protected in some cases it relates
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to their faith. We know that we have people in this country who have
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basically said, not just in this country. People have come into this country,
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but there's some here that would say you don't need to in any way
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depict any sort of image of Mohammed, or there's going to be problems with
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that. South Park once did an episode famously, and I talked about this
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on the radio, and this is one of those real touchy areas because again,
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approaching this from the standpoint of an American, I appreciate what the south
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Park guys were doing with this. Looking at this from the perspective of a
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Christian, I understand what makes it offensive to many Christians, and I think
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it's important that the two things we have to discuss what the differences are.
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But the South Park guys did an episode where they were going to have an
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image, a picture, a depiction of Mohammed in it. They were told
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you cannot do that at all. They were told that by I guess Viacom
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or whoever. I guess that's who owned Comedy Central at the time. Can't
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do it. There will be protests, there will be violence. You can't
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do it. If you do, we're not going to be able to air
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it. So instead, at the end of the episode, when we were
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going to show an image of Mohammad as a cartoon, they instead did an
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image of then President George W. Bush and Jesus defecating on an American flag.
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That caused a lot of people on the right, a lot of Christians,
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to say, this is horribly offensive, this is terrible. How dare
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these guys do this? But the point that they were making was driven home.
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We can't even show in a positive light an image of Mohammed, but
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you will allow us to take Jesus, the central figure of the Christian faith,
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the president of the United States, and let them defecate on an American
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flag. That can make it on the air. Even a positive image of
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Mohammed would be not allowed. So, you know, from a satirical standpoint,
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home run right. To me. From an American standpoint, I didn't
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like seeing certainly didn't like seeing Jesus depicted that way. I find that offensive.
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I didn't like as an American. I didn't like seeing the president or
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the flag done that way. As a First Amendment person, I go,
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hey, they did what they needed to do to make their point. There's
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different sides to all of it. And there usually are different sides to all
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of it. I've talked about this before too. My faith drives me being
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a conservative. My faith is ultimately what leads me to a place that says
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personal responsibility is important. It's the thing that tells me that self government is
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important. It's the thing that tells me that even things that I may think
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are morally wrong doesn't necessarily mean I think that the government should be involved in
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telling me to not do them, or in some cases, that I must
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do them. See, there's a difference between what I think is right and
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wrong and what was laid out by our founders and early lawmakers, where they
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said, we're going to basically trust you to do the right thing, and
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we'll step in when you're crossing lines that hurt other people. At its essence,
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that's where I am. You see, for me to say I think
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that cheating on your wife is morally wrong, yes, absolutely. Do I
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think that there will be some sort of consequences for a person that does that?
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Typically absolutely? Does it mean that I think it should be illegal in
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our country, that there should be a law that prevents someone from doing it.
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No, No, I don't. I think the fewer the laws the
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better. I've talked about this before with seat belts. This doesn't really relate
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to a morality aspect of it, but I've talked about seat belt laws.
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I think seat belts are great. I think everyone should wear a seat belt
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when they're in a vehicle that's moving. I don't think that there should be
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a law in place other than to say that children should have to wear seat
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belts, because parents should have laws enforced to protect those kids. But adults
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should be able to make up their mind if they want to wear the seat
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belts or not. I think that you should. I just don't think the
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government should be involved in telling you that you have to. And I think
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if not for insurance companies, that probably wouldn't be a law at all.
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But that's another conversation altogether. So when it comes to issues like abortion,
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you have folks on the left that play this game of saying that this is
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about health, medical treatments, and basic health needs for women, that women
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need to get just basic health care from clinics that provide abortions, and that's
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been debunked for quite some time in most of those cases, that that's not
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really the healthcare that they're putting out, you know, the message is,
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Hey, they're providing all of these great care for people. But the majority
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of the things that are done in abortion clinics is perform abortions. Are there
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some people who occasionally stop by there for a Papshmiir? Sure? Is that
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common? No, that's not common at all in most cases. Are there
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the exceptions in some places? Sure? But overall, No, this isn't
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really about health care unless the healthcare you're talking about is unburdening a woman of
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a pregnancy that she doesn't want or in some cases is medically unable to carry
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out. And that's another issue, another conversation to have. But Christians in
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many cases look at abortions and they say that's morally wrong. From a country
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standpoint, I'm sure that our founders the whole idea and notion of terminating a
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pregnancy like this isn't really something that they were able to discuss or legislate then,
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because it's an absolutely unheard of thing for them. This is something that's
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come along much later, and we look at now and we have these discussions.
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So for a while, as Roe v. Wade was Law of the
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land, we had folks that would basically say, this is what we can
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do. There's nothing that you can do about it, as conservatives or as
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Christians, but we're going to do this, and we're going to rub your
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nose in it. We're going to make sure you know, haha. We
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can do this anytime we want to, and we can make jokes about it
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publicly. And then now we're at this critical moment in time where that has
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changed, largely because of Ruth Bader Ginsburg, that has changed and it's now
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gone and become a state's rights issue. And we talked yesterday about the fact
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that former President Trump talked about he laid it out, this should be a
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state's rights issue. Now. Maybe on a personal level, that's not what
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he feels. Maybe he thinks it should be banned. Maybe it's something that
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he would be fine with. Up until twenty weeks, a lot of people
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speculating where he is on it, and they're saying, ah, but he's
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just saying what people want to hear. He's doing something that many politicians don't
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do. He is offering up some sort of compromise. And the current compromise
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is, let each state decide it. If you don't like it, in
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the state that you're in, do something to change it in your state.
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If you do like it in your state, you're fine. And if you
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can't get it changed politically in your state, move somewhere else. That's also
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an option for you. This has been that discussion we've had about these people
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that come from other countries and get here and say, now, we want
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to make this country like the one that we left, because it was terrible,
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but we want to do what we were doing there here. We just
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think we can do it better here. We have people who live here that
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seem to idolize the predominantly white countries in the Scandinavian area, and they say,
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oh, those are great. Everything there is great. You gotta wonder,
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is it because it's a lot of white people. I don't know.
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I don't know why they idolize those places so much, but they say,
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oh, they've got everything figured out. Well, first of all, it's
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a smaller population. Does socialism and communism work in small doses and small places.
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Yeah, with populations that are you can run a commune with fifty families
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on it and do reasonably well with it. You start talking about hundreds of
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millions of people and then that's when it breaks down. That's when you've got
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toilet paper lines, that's when you've got food problems. It works on a
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very small scale. It may work in Scandinavian countries. Okay, maybe that
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does work there, and maybe completely redoing everything here would work for you know,
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maybe ten years. I don't know, long term. These people would
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be better off moving to Scandinavian countries if that's what they want. If they
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want to live in Cuba or Venezuela, go go and enjoy it. It's
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everything that you're dreaming of. Go there and make it a better place.
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Try to improve it instead of trying to destroy this idea that is America.
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So when people say that churches should be the ones that are helping citizens that
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need some sort of support, the left says, no, you just don't
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have a sense of chair. That's not true at all. We'd like our
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sense of charity to go through churches or go through organizations that we choose to
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support. We'd like to make donations to places that are going to help people
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that want help, that are going to not let it go through twenty different
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channels of bureaucrats before it gets there. You see, you give it to
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a church, and a church is able to turn around and immediately put it
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back into your community. I've talked before about I've got friends that say I
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just vote based on the environment, and I wish that they would tax me
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more so that it would go to environmental programs. You can do more to
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support your environment in your community by working with I don't know a state park
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or national park, or here in Columbus, we've got Oxbo Meadows, the
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Environmental Learning Center. Go there, drop one hundred bucks, two hundred bucks
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in their box as you go inside where you make an entry donation. They
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could do a lot with that. They could do a lot with that.
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But if it goes through bureaucrats, they might see fifty cents of that two
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hundred dollars. I don't know exactly what the ratio is, but they're not
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going to see anywhere close to two hundred dollars that they could immediately put in
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action there and again do positive things for our environment. So when we get
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told by the folks on the left that we're not compassionate, it's not that
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we don't want them involved. When we get told they think they don't want
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to support migrants that come here, and it's no. We want people to
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come through the proper channels. We want people to go through the process.
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My wife went through the process. I know the process is difficult. I
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absolutely know that it's difficult, and I know that it's not cheap. Can
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those things be fixed? Sure? But does it mean that I don't have
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sympathy for people who want to come here, especially people that want to come
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here from places that are horrible. I understand my wife's not from a horrible
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place. My wife came here because of me and we have a family here,
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and we went through the proper channels, and we filed all of the
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paperwork, and we did everything that you're supposed to do. And you know
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what happens when you get your first permanent residency, They tell you you aren't
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eligible for social aid from US. WES here will be the one who will
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support you if you have financial problems. You are not eligible as a permanent
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resident. Yet we've got people coming across the border, southern border, and
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they immediately say, uh, when I get a hotel, where do I
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go? What are you guys taking care of it for me? Come in
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the right pace way, You're not going to get anything. Come in the
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wrong way with your handout, and you're expecting everything to be given to you.
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There's a difference between not wanting to be compassionate and wanting to be compassionate
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in a way where you're directly helping people without again going through all of these
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channels. You make a tax payment, and who knows how much of the
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money goes to the environmental programs, it goes to immigrants, how much of
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it goes to social programs to help people, how much of it is going
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to any sort of local assistance, any sort of local help. We're good
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at that here in the Columbus area. As we continue over and over again,
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and we like to do these sploss and raise our taxes by a penny
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on everything that we spend. We don't seem to be able to say no
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to that ever. Do We don't have that ability to just say, let's
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vote no on this one. Let's take a little break. It's tough times
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right now. We don't need that extra penny on everything that we spend.
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And for some of the folks on the left that they themselves are also religious,
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they go to that area of saying, well, we're compassionate. And
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I don't mean to suggest in any way that you can't be a Christian or
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religious and be a Democrat. That's not why I'm implying at all. I've
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heard people say before, you know the Founders were all liberals. No,
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no, not by any definition. They weren't all liberals. They wanted to
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be left alone. They were what we now look at as true libertarians.
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They wanted to do what they wanted to do and be left alone. But
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that doesn't mean that someone who is a Christian or a Catholic, or a
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Muslim, they can't be any faith that they can't be. And I don't
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know why someone who's Jewish would choose to continue being a Democrat right now.
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But it doesn't mean that you can't be a Democrat, certainly not. There
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are aspects of being a liberal that appeal to many aspects of Christians. But
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it drives me, my faith, drives me into the direction of leave me
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alone, let me live my life. See, I was pro gay marriage
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because for years, because I didn't think it was the role of government to
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tell anybody who should get married. Taking my faith side of it out of
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the picture, looking at it from a government standpoint, does the government need
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to be involved and who's allowed to get married and who's not allowed to get
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married. No, they don't need to be involved at all. So by
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that logic, one hundred percent, take government out of it. As long
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as it's two adults, you do your thing. Just don't ask me or
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force me to participate. You can ask me, don't force me to participate
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because I'm not going to participate because again, just like I'm respecting your right
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to live your life, I want you to respect my right to live my
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life and be able to decide if I want to participate or not. That's
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ultimately what it's about. And on the issue of abortion, it's pretty simple.
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People say, look at these people telling women what to do with their
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bodies. Many conservatives just say, there is another body there that we feel
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like is in jeopardy and we feel like it's our role to protect it.
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We're hearing all of this stuff about, oh, they won't protect child actors
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on Nickelodeon shows because of that documentary, we should do more to protect those
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kids. That's the core of where the right comes from on abortion. See
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the right says we should do more to protect those unborn the left says they're
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not kids, yet the right says they are't us. That's where the real
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issue is. This isn't about telling women what they're allowed to do and not
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allowed to do. This is about someone saying, I think the baby's alive.
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You think the baby's not alive. Unless you want the baby, then
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it's alive. There's flawed logic in there. I just don't think it comes
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from the people who say I want to protect the unborn. I think the
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flawed logic comes from the baby's only alive if I want to keep it.
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That's where it starts to break down to me. So, yes, it
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is possible to say this is what I believe about abortion, but that I
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also think that maybe it is time for some sort of a compromise to make
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this some sort of federal law. But that's not going to happen here from
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Donald Trump. He's playing it safe politically because this is the right move.
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Leave it with the states. This is where it's been placed once Roe v.
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Wade was overturned thanks again to Ruth Bader Ginsburg. So that's where it
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currently lies. That's where he says it will stay, even though other people
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found forty percent of respondent said that they were afraid to face the clutter in
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their houses. Thirty percent said they have a hard time keeping their home organized.
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But the clutter does more than affect the way the home looks. It
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affects people's mental health as well. Fifty percent of respondents said the organization of
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their home had an impact on their well being. Eighty percent said they feel
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more motivated when their home isn't cluttered. Three said they felt overwhelmed when their
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home was unorganized. What spots in the house have the most clutter? The
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garage was at the top of the list. That's not a big surprise,
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and forty six percent of those surveys said it was the most clutter place.
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Thirty seven percent said that the state of their garage was a nightmare. Next
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was closets, followed by drawers. Yeah, and they say that they would
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be embarrassed if guests saw the amount of junk that they have in those areas.
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Back to the subject of finances. Financial stress has long been the cause
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of problems and a lot of marriages, but they say it's actually not the
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top reason for divorce in America. According to a new Forbes survey, couples
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psyche disagreements over career choices as the number one reason for marital conflicts and divorce,
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followed by parenting differences and the division of household chores. Other causes for
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marital strife include relationships with family and friends, as well as finances and health
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choices. So keep all that in mind. Again, I'm not telling you
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what to do with your life. I'm just offering you the information about whether
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you should get another job, whether or not you should work on these areas
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of your relationship, whether you should declutter your home, whether your pets to
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sleep in the bed. I'm leaving all that up to you, because this
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is America. That'll do it for this Wednesday edition of the show. Thanks
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