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- 0:26Speaker 2: Morning to you, Paul Shimon and Arms is waiting and
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- 0:30Speaker 3: Excellent man.
- 0:31Speaker 1: You guys have come out with an amazing podcast at
- 0:33Speaker 1: the right time, especially since Spielberg was number one this
- 0:36Speaker 1: past weekend. With a continuation of these of these stories,
- 0:40Speaker 1: and it's like, you guys have got like an endless
- 0:42Speaker 1: amount of information And to me, it's job security for
- 0:46Speaker 1: UFO UFO people, it really is. I mean, you guys
- 0:48Speaker 1: are just so busy all the dang time.
- 0:53Speaker 4: Well, it's been interesting because we started Soundlud and frequency
- 0:57Speaker 4: saying this is probably an under served idea that there's
- 1:02Speaker 4: a connection between UFOs and Hollywood and government secrecy. And
- 1:06Speaker 4: then of course right now, as you mentioned, we got
- 1:08Speaker 4: a weekend where two things have happened. Steven Spielberg's put
- 1:12Speaker 4: out a movie called Disclosure Day that everybody's going to
- 1:15Speaker 4: and at the same time, the government is releasing its
- 1:18Speaker 4: own documents. They put out their third installment of these releases.
- 1:22Speaker 4: So yeah, a very interesting time to be right in
- 1:25Speaker 4: the middle of it, and we're thrilled to be.
- 1:27Speaker 1: There, to be so deep into the storyline like you are,
- 1:31Speaker 1: and these things are starting to unravel in front of
- 1:33Speaker 1: the entire world. Do you find yourself going see see
- 1:36Speaker 1: I told you, I told you I'm not as insane
- 1:38Speaker 1: as everybody said I was.
- 1:41Speaker 3: The one thing I would tell you, is it is
- 1:44Speaker 3: true what you're saying.
- 1:45Speaker 4: For years, the way I always explained it is I
- 1:47Speaker 4: was treated like the drunk uncle at the wedding if
- 1:50Speaker 4: I started talking about UFOs and people would go, don't
- 1:52Speaker 4: ask Bryce more about that, He'll whatever. But things have
- 1:56Speaker 4: completely changed. I'll be at a dinner party now and
- 2:00Speaker 4: the first thing somebody will bring up is, like, you
- 2:02Speaker 4: know about this UFO thing?
- 2:03Speaker 3: What do you know? What's going on?
- 2:05Speaker 4: So I think that the public added aptitude or interest
- 2:10Speaker 4: rather in this whole topic is higher than ever, and
- 2:14Speaker 4: it's been high over time, but then it's always been
- 2:17Speaker 4: put back in the bottle.
- 2:18Speaker 3: This is one.
- 2:19Speaker 4: You're not putting that toothpaste back in the tube anymore.
- 2:22Speaker 3: We're out.
- 2:23Speaker 1: And then where do we grow from this situation? Because
- 2:26Speaker 1: I mean, I remember as a kid in Montana, I
- 2:28Speaker 1: would sit out there and look at that big sky country,
- 2:31Speaker 1: knowing in my heart I was not alone. They were
- 2:34Speaker 1: watching me. I was watching them, and there were no
- 2:37Speaker 1: trees or anything in the way of us communicating.
- 2:41Speaker 5: Well, look, you know, well you were sitting out there
- 2:44Speaker 5: looking at the skies as an eighteen year old between
- 2:48Speaker 5: high school and college. A family friend who was in
- 2:52Speaker 5: the Reagan administration at the time and in the second
- 2:54Speaker 5: term would go on to become the Secretary of Energy.
- 2:58Speaker 3: One night out on.
- 2:59Speaker 5: His back patio, he just closed to me and he
- 3:01Speaker 5: just came right out and told me that aliens are real.
- 3:04Speaker 2: They're here and I've seen them.
- 3:06Speaker 5: And I of course asked him a hold on a second, well,
- 3:09Speaker 5: why don't more people know the truth? And he said, well,
- 3:11Speaker 5: lots of people know the truth. You can walk into
- 3:13Speaker 5: any bookstore and you can find all sorts of books
- 3:15Speaker 5: that have truth in them about this topic. But right
- 3:18Speaker 5: next to those books are books that we the government
- 3:20Speaker 5: publish as part of a multi billion dollar disinformation campaign
- 3:25Speaker 5: to keep the cover up. And so you know, again,
- 3:28Speaker 5: this was nineteen eighty one. They had done a pretty
- 3:30Speaker 5: good job up until that point to keep the cover up.
- 3:33Speaker 5: Now flash forward to twenty twenty six, and it feels
- 3:36Speaker 5: like it's all starting to come out finally and.
- 3:40Speaker 4: Errow just we have some personal experience that is kind
- 3:44Speaker 4: of mind blowing in retrospect. We created a TV series
- 3:47Speaker 4: about an alien invasion called Dark Skies for NBC, and
- 3:51Speaker 4: we're having a premiere party and a guy crashed the party,
- 3:55Speaker 4: the only guy out of two hundred people in my
- 3:57Speaker 4: backyard I didn't know, and he himself as being from
- 4:01Speaker 4: the Office of Naval Intelligence, and he said that they
- 4:05Speaker 4: wanted to make a deal with us. They wanted to
- 4:07Speaker 4: trade access for influence. They were going to give us
- 4:11Speaker 4: a key information and they wanted us to incorporate it
- 4:14Speaker 4: into our series, which is kind of that whole storyline.
- 4:19Speaker 4: There's a lot more to it. Is kind of how
- 4:21Speaker 4: we've sort of threaded it through this Soundlite and Frequency
- 4:24Speaker 4: podcast because we want to tell the whole story, but
- 4:27Speaker 4: we also want to have people who hear about it
- 4:30Speaker 4: and have their own personal experiences and get in touch
- 4:33Speaker 4: with us, and we have had that happen. We are
- 4:35Speaker 4: starting to turn up other cases not just similar to
- 4:38Speaker 4: our own.
- 4:39Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, what I learned from your podcast is
- 4:41Speaker 1: you guys actually bumped into a real man in black,
- 4:44Speaker 1: which then all of a sudden, I'm going whoa, whoa, whoa,
- 4:46Speaker 1: whoa whoa. Now you know, it's like, oh, I just
- 4:49Speaker 1: thought this was all fantasy stuff.
- 4:53Speaker 5: Well exactly, and you know from that that story, that
- 4:57Speaker 5: situation that happened, he went down a whole path where
- 5:01Speaker 5: we had several meetings with not just this one man
- 5:04Speaker 5: in black, but he brought in someone from the Office
- 5:06Speaker 5: of Intelligence who was actually part of the Navy, and
- 5:11Speaker 5: we had long conversations about taking a deal. Ultimately, we
- 5:15Speaker 5: did not take the deal, but as Bryce mentioned, we're
- 5:17Speaker 5: finding that there were other people in Hollywood that were
- 5:20Speaker 5: offered the deal. And in our second episode of our podcast,
- 5:24Speaker 5: we take another personal experience we had, which was during
- 5:27Speaker 5: the making of.
- 5:28Speaker 6: The Dark Sky's pilot. Our director was a very good
- 5:31Speaker 6: friend of Steven Spielberg's Herbie Hooper, who had made Texas
- 5:37Speaker 6: Chainsaw Massacre and Poltergeist, which Stephen produced, and in the
- 5:42Speaker 6: midst of a conversation with Toby, he let it be
- 5:45Speaker 6: known that his good friend Steven Spielberg told him that
- 5:49Speaker 6: after Jaws, he was the most successful director on the planet,
- 5:52Speaker 6: and he was approached by the Office of Naval Intelligence
- 5:55Speaker 6: and offered the exact same deal. Now, according to Toby,
- 5:59Speaker 6: Stephen to Okay, well maybe he did, maybe he didn't.
- 6:02Speaker 6: But here we are in twenty twenty six and Steven
- 6:05Speaker 6: Spielberg has a movie that just came out this weekend
- 6:07Speaker 6: called Disclosure Day.
- 6:10Speaker 1: Please Don't Move. We're talking UFOs with Bryce Zabelle and
- 6:13Speaker 1: Brent Friedman. It's coming up next. The name of the podcast,
- 6:18Speaker 1: Sound Light and Frequency. We are back with Bryce and Brent.
- 6:22Speaker 1: You see, I'm so glad that you guys are doing
- 6:24Speaker 1: this with Sound, Light and Frequency, because I mean, inside
- 6:27Speaker 1: my heart, I've always wondered why Hollywood has always been
- 6:29Speaker 1: so attracted. I just thought it was the imagination. But
- 6:32Speaker 1: to use them as a promotional vehicle that really draws
- 6:36Speaker 1: me even closer into the story, because now I'm going
- 6:38Speaker 1: this is real. I really want to see how Hollywood
- 6:41Speaker 1: is going to depict this without crossing that line, because
- 6:44Speaker 1: there's a lot of US soldiers that will tell me,
- 6:46Speaker 1: I can't talk about stories unless it's cleared through the
- 6:49Speaker 1: US Department of Defense. And it's like, Okay, now I
- 6:53Speaker 1: got to ask you guys, how are you guys clearing
- 6:55Speaker 1: this story and getting it by those guys.
- 7:00Speaker 4: Violating anything that's classified because we've not been exposed to
- 7:03Speaker 4: any classified materials. So we're free citizens able to talk
- 7:07Speaker 4: about whatever we want to. And in fact, there are
- 7:10Speaker 4: more the whistleblower protection that has been put into place
- 7:15Speaker 4: after that New York Times article of twenty seventeen that
- 7:18Speaker 4: talked about how the government was investigating UFOs when it
- 7:21Speaker 4: said it wasn't. There's now a little more openness and
- 7:25Speaker 4: people from the intelligence communities, all the three letter agencies
- 7:31Speaker 4: and so forth, as well as military people and researchers.
- 7:35Speaker 3: They're all coming forward.
- 7:37Speaker 4: They're all going to increasingly going to Congress swearing to
- 7:42Speaker 4: tell the truth and the whole truth. And then they're
- 7:44Speaker 4: telling stories that will blow your mind. They're talking about
- 7:47Speaker 4: crash retrievals, they're talking about reverse engineering the actual pilots
- 7:55Speaker 4: or the biologics retrieved from these vehicles.
- 8:00Speaker 3: They seem pretty credible.
- 8:01Speaker 4: I mean, these are people like that have titles like
- 8:04Speaker 4: the former head of the CIA people like that, so
- 8:07Speaker 4: they would probably know, and that's what we both think.
- 8:12Speaker 4: This is a very exciting time to be alive in
- 8:15Speaker 4: general because of the UFO issue coming to the foe,
- 8:19Speaker 4: and a lot of people are stepping forward to bear
- 8:22Speaker 4: witness to their part of the story, which is what
- 8:25Speaker 4: Brent and I are trying to do with satellite and frequency.
- 8:28Speaker 4: It may not be the full story, but the idea
- 8:32Speaker 4: that Hollywood has been employed or at least approached about
- 8:37Speaker 4: helping on this slow drip disclosure seems to be kind
- 8:40Speaker 4: of a fresh new way to look at it, which
- 8:42Speaker 4: is ironic because in our research it really kind of
- 8:45Speaker 4: goes back to the very early days of the cover
- 8:48Speaker 4: up and the nineteen fifties when they were making all
- 8:51Speaker 4: those flying Saucer movies.
- 8:53Speaker 1: Yeah, because you guys are not only continuing the conversation,
- 8:56Speaker 1: but you're also opening the door for one with those
- 8:59Speaker 1: that have seen Spilled or other movies, and they're coming
- 9:01Speaker 1: to you and they're going, Okay, teach me more, teach
- 9:03Speaker 1: me more. But the one thing that I have heard
- 9:05Speaker 1: a lot of, especially this past weekend, where people began
- 9:08Speaker 1: to make a disconnect with the story was the fact
- 9:12Speaker 1: that we're tired of seeing the same aliens in every movie.
- 9:14Speaker 1: And the one thing that I got was that everybody
- 9:18Speaker 1: thinks that aliens are going to look different than what
- 9:21Speaker 1: we've seen. What's your gut on that, because they do
- 9:24Speaker 1: all look like the same characters we've seen since the
- 9:26Speaker 1: nineteen fifties.
- 9:29Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great question, you know.
- 9:33Speaker 5: Right now, there's a lot of conversation out there, and
- 9:36Speaker 5: several very high level people have come forth and said,
- 9:39Speaker 5: there's multiple alien species.
- 9:41Speaker 2: There's not just rays, right. The grays have become the
- 9:44Speaker 2: iconic face, if you will, of the aliens.
- 9:49Speaker 5: And you know, going back to Whitley Strieber's book Communion,
- 9:54Speaker 5: that was pretty much the first time that that image
- 9:57Speaker 5: came into the public consciousness in such a way that
- 10:00Speaker 5: that basically after that, anyone who saw an aliens saw
- 10:04Speaker 5: a gray. They saw that classic you know shape with
- 10:07Speaker 5: with the tear drop eyes, with the big black ones.
- 10:10Speaker 2: But you know, you Steven Spielberg depicted.
- 10:13Speaker 5: It them very well, and Close Encounters of the Third
- 10:16Speaker 5: Kind very similarly.
- 10:18Speaker 2: Et was that same type of gray.
- 10:21Speaker 5: And so it's been in the public consciousness through movies
- 10:25Speaker 5: and books and media for a long time, and so this.
- 10:28Speaker 5: It's a chicken in the egg question really, because did
- 10:32Speaker 5: Hollywood and storytellers influence how people perceived aliens and what
- 10:37Speaker 5: they thought they looked like, or did the actual descriptions
- 10:43Speaker 5: from people who were experiencers who had been abducted.
- 10:46Speaker 2: Did that influence Hollywood? So it's hard to know where
- 10:49Speaker 2: it began and where it ends.
- 10:52Speaker 4: Frankly, one thing I would add to that, though, is
- 10:55Speaker 4: that in the fifties there was a movie where a
- 11:00Speaker 4: giant alien that looked like a giant carrot was menacing people,
- 11:05Speaker 4: and that didn't cause an outbreak of people reporting alien
- 11:08Speaker 4: carrots menacing them. So I don't think Hollywood has been
- 11:14Speaker 4: able to put out there images of aliens that don't
- 11:18Speaker 4: resonate in terms of the real cases. And part of
- 11:21Speaker 4: the reason that Spielberg is probably doing grays and other
- 11:25Speaker 4: people have done grays is because people actually do report that.
- 11:28Speaker 3: But the one thing that.
- 11:29Speaker 4: Brent is completely right about, though, is that there are
- 11:33Speaker 4: other reports going on about other species. And if you
- 11:38Speaker 4: think that if the universe is teeming with life and
- 11:41Speaker 4: that at least one of them managed to get here
- 11:44Speaker 4: to Earth to look around and see what we got,
- 11:47Speaker 4: it wouldn't be impossible to think there might be three
- 11:50Speaker 4: or half a dozen or even more. So we will
- 11:53Speaker 4: find out. That's one of the things we hope they'll disclose.
- 11:56Speaker 1: Well, there's something that takes place in this Spielberg movie
- 12:00Speaker 1: that I want to hear what your guys' gutt is
- 12:02Speaker 1: on it, Because if we're talking about how Hollywood has
- 12:04Speaker 1: becoming a promotional tour for UFOs, that moment that maybe
- 12:09Speaker 1: it may last fifteen seconds where you hear the alien
- 12:12Speaker 1: and you physically hear the pain. I've never experienced that
- 12:16Speaker 1: in a movie before like I did in this movie.
- 12:18Speaker 1: And I know you guys with all your research, have
- 12:21Speaker 1: we ever heard such a cry for pain from these aliens?
- 12:26Speaker 1: And what would be the movement on that to show
- 12:28Speaker 1: how human they might be?
- 12:31Speaker 5: I mean, the first they answer to your first question
- 12:33Speaker 5: is I have never heard anything quite like that.
- 12:36Speaker 2: It didn't structified. It sent a shiver down my spine.
- 12:41Speaker 2: I think, you know, Stephen.
- 12:42Speaker 5: Has gone on the record as saying that the whole
- 12:45Speaker 5: movie is about empathy. Yeah, and I think that that
- 12:48Speaker 5: scene in particular was being used to do exactly what
- 12:53Speaker 5: it accomplished with both you and I and probably a
- 12:55Speaker 5: lot of other people, which is to see the aliens
- 12:58Speaker 5: in a different light. Yes, maybe they are more intelligence,
- 13:01Speaker 5: maybe they are more developed with more technology than us,
- 13:05Speaker 5: but at the same time, their living beings. And if humans,
- 13:08Speaker 5: as he's purporting, we're torturing them, then maybe we need
- 13:14Speaker 5: to see them in a different light. Maybe we need
- 13:17Speaker 5: to have empathy for them and not treat them like
- 13:21Speaker 5: the other. That seemed to be the underlying message of
- 13:23Speaker 5: the movie, and in particular, that moment that you're talking
- 13:26Speaker 5: about was was presented as the motivation for those characters,
- 13:31Speaker 5: particularly the Josh O'Connor character, to just close.
- 13:35Speaker 4: There's the other side of the coin on that. Yeah,
- 13:37Speaker 4: Spielberg is showing us a really incredible scene of where
- 13:40Speaker 4: our medical people are looking and this alien is in discomfort.
- 13:46Speaker 4: But there have been so many cases reported of abductions
- 13:50Speaker 4: of humans, going back to Betty and Barney Hill, Travis Waltens,
- 13:54Speaker 4: Whitley Streeber, and frankly, hundreds of thousands of other people.
- 13:58Speaker 4: And I can't forget those people. Those people, those experiencers
- 14:03Speaker 4: experience something terrifying and traumatic themselves. So well, I don't
- 14:09Speaker 4: want anybody to be traumatized, human or alien.
- 14:12Speaker 3: I just think it's a two way Street.
- 14:14Speaker 1: You guys really drew me in very closely when you
- 14:18Speaker 1: brought in aliens, the paranormal, and the afterlife not necessarily
- 14:22Speaker 1: being separate stories. I mean, I was like, oh my
- 14:26Speaker 1: god when I heard that, because it's like, these are
- 14:28Speaker 1: the things that cross our minds as everyday people. But
- 14:31Speaker 1: you guys dig in and you really do give us
- 14:34Speaker 1: a greater story on that.
- 14:37Speaker 5: Well, it's a great point, you know. I think there's
- 14:40Speaker 5: so many things going on right now and have been
- 14:43Speaker 5: going on really for humans for a long time. I
- 14:46Speaker 5: think everything's coalescing and allowing us to have a conversation
- 14:50Speaker 5: that's not just about UAP and UFOs because it's my
- 14:55Speaker 5: personal belief as an experiencer that, as you said, it's UAP, UFOs,
- 15:01Speaker 5: the paranormal, the afterlife. What is the common thread that
- 15:05Speaker 5: runs through all of that is human consciousness? And I
- 15:08Speaker 5: think we're seeing in science a lot of studies being
- 15:11Speaker 5: done about consciousness. One of the things we know more
- 15:14Speaker 5: about the planet than we do about our brains and
- 15:18Speaker 5: how they work. And so I think all of this
- 15:21Speaker 5: is coming together. Doesn't it feel like it's all converging,
- 15:25Speaker 5: Like we're going to learn a lot about not just
- 15:28Speaker 5: UFOs and aliens, but about ourselves.
- 15:30Speaker 2: And that's what's really exciting.
- 15:32Speaker 1: When it's no longer just a story and it becomes
- 15:35Speaker 1: a part of our everyday life. Because I'm beginning to
- 15:38Speaker 1: feel that now with all of these videos that are
- 15:40Speaker 1: coming out. It's like, oh, this is just a normal
- 15:42Speaker 1: part of where we are in history when it comes
- 15:44Speaker 1: to the galaxy and our growth forward to better understand
- 15:48Speaker 1: what we have out there. But we've got to keep
- 15:51Speaker 1: it in the conversation like you guys are doing. It
- 15:53Speaker 1: can't become just another story that's going to fall to
- 15:55Speaker 1: page number six.
- 15:58Speaker 3: It can't be arrow.
- 15:59Speaker 4: I have to say, you just made a very profound point,
- 16:02Speaker 4: and you made it well, which is maybe that is
- 16:06Speaker 4: why we're in so called slow drip disclosure, so that
- 16:10Speaker 4: the extraordinary nature of what's happening to us can be
- 16:14Speaker 4: normalized enough so that we can accept it because it
- 16:18Speaker 4: feels like, well, this is reality. Reality is that we're
- 16:24Speaker 4: not alone, and if we all are starting to get
- 16:27Speaker 4: that through our heads when the details of this disclosure
- 16:31Speaker 4: come out, maybe it'll be received better. And clearly, we
- 16:37Speaker 4: have always been on the horns of a dilemma between
- 16:39Speaker 4: two polarities. One is that people have a right to know,
- 16:43Speaker 4: and the other is, to quote paraphrase Jack Nicholson, the
- 16:47Speaker 4: people can't handle the truth.
- 16:49Speaker 3: And it's been.
- 16:50Speaker 4: Seventy nine years since Roswell and probably most people at
- 16:55Speaker 4: this point would take the position of the former.
- 16:58Speaker 3: The people have a right to know. It doesn't mean
- 17:02Speaker 3: that we can't handle it.
- 17:03Speaker 4: I mean, during World War Two there were some really
- 17:06Speaker 4: dark times and Franklin Roosevelt tried to tell people the
- 17:09Speaker 4: truth and to try to help keep them together. If
- 17:13Speaker 4: there is a dark side to this, I'm ready to
- 17:16Speaker 4: hear it.
- 17:17Speaker 1: You know what's really interesting is that, you know, roswelld
- 17:19Speaker 1: just seems to get all the attention, and yet I
- 17:21Speaker 1: live in this forest which is called a lightning alley,
- 17:24Speaker 1: that there's something in the planet that's really attractive to
- 17:28Speaker 1: gathering all this lightning. I've always believe there's aliens here.
- 17:31Speaker 1: This is where the UFOs come, whether we see them
- 17:33Speaker 1: or don't. But there's still and I always wonder if
- 17:36Speaker 1: that's not the calling card of those above us or
- 17:39Speaker 1: a UAP in that it's here. They planted it, and
- 17:43Speaker 1: even Mother Nature today is calling, is being called to it.
- 17:46Speaker 1: There's just something about the areas of this planet that
- 17:49Speaker 1: are calling to all of these UFOs and UAPs.
- 17:55Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 17:55Speaker 5: Absolutely, I think that if you look at the pattern
- 17:58Speaker 5: of incounters, it's true there.
- 18:02Speaker 2: And you even can line them up on the lay lines.
- 18:05Speaker 2: People have done that before. There's some connection to the planet.
- 18:09Speaker 5: And you know, I've even heard the theory that maybe
- 18:12Speaker 5: the planet is alive, right, maybe everything is. And so
- 18:16Speaker 5: when you when you get into these ideas, we're it's
- 18:20Speaker 5: more than just what planet are the aliens from? I
- 18:23Speaker 5: think we're we're answering. We're going to be answering a
- 18:26Speaker 5: lot of questions about a lot of things. And to
- 18:28Speaker 5: Bryce's point, you know, I think we have to take
- 18:32Speaker 5: it one step at a time. There's a there's a
- 18:34Speaker 5: rush to just get it all out in the open.
- 18:36Speaker 3: But when you.
- 18:37Speaker 2: Start to say, well, what if disclosure is.
- 18:39Speaker 5: Not just about where the aliens are from and what
- 18:41Speaker 5: they want, but the nature of our very reality, I
- 18:45Speaker 5: think that may be more what we're where we're headed,
- 18:48Speaker 5: and and that's a conversation I want to take slowly.
- 18:52Speaker 3: Also, they'll think about it.
- 18:53Speaker 4: If would you really trust the current occupant of the
- 18:57Speaker 4: White House to step to the podium.
- 18:59Speaker 3: And yeah, it's reality is not what you think it is.
- 19:03Speaker 4: Let me explain it to you that one's not gonna
- 19:06Speaker 4: go over that well.
- 19:07Speaker 1: So yeah, boy, so true, so true. But let me
- 19:11Speaker 1: do you want it to stay in pop culture? Because
- 19:14Speaker 1: I look at UFOs, aliens, UAPs sometimes is that okay,
- 19:18Speaker 1: that's the current hot thing. But I know for a
- 19:20Speaker 1: fact inside my heart that all of this is beyond
- 19:23Speaker 1: pop culture. That we've gone from the days of I'll
- 19:26Speaker 1: put it this way for listeners, we've gone from the
- 19:28Speaker 1: days of Justin Bieber being a teen idol to being
- 19:30Speaker 1: a real, authentic a musician. I believe that that's where
- 19:33Speaker 1: we are with this history with all these videos coming out.
- 19:36Speaker 1: It's no longer about pop pop culture. It's about this
- 19:39Speaker 1: is what's really going on. It has been going on,
- 19:42Speaker 1: and it is a moment that we're going to carry
- 19:44Speaker 1: with us beyond just being pop culture.
- 19:48Speaker 3: So true.
- 19:49Speaker 4: But the one way you can also look at that
- 19:51Speaker 4: is in the absence of information, when your star for information,
- 19:57Speaker 4: what is Hollywood going to do. It's gonna aid its
- 20:00Speaker 4: own reality and put those kind of stories out. What
- 20:03Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to is the change where as we
- 20:06Speaker 4: begin to accept we're not alone, and that we are
- 20:09Speaker 4: being visited, that people will have a hunger to see
- 20:14Speaker 4: the entertainment business reflect some of those more true cases.
- 20:18Speaker 4: That's why, for example, I'm passionate to tell the story
- 20:21Speaker 4: of Betty and Barney Hill, and I've written that script
- 20:24Speaker 4: that I'm out trying to sell that one because I
- 20:26Speaker 4: feel like I want to know more about the cases
- 20:29Speaker 4: that have happened than I want a writer, a creative
- 20:34Speaker 4: writer to make up an alien species out of their mind.
- 20:37Speaker 3: I want to know. I want to.
- 20:39Speaker 4: See stories brought to life that feel like they explain
- 20:43Speaker 4: the world around me a little better.
- 20:45Speaker 3: And I think that is going to happen in the future.
- 20:47Speaker 1: See that's my worst fear about you, with people creating
- 20:50Speaker 1: their own ais and stuff like that, that they're going
- 20:53Speaker 1: to come up also with their own aliens. And it's like, okay,
- 20:56Speaker 1: so now I'm stuck here with this clickbait problem where
- 20:58Speaker 1: it's like, God, it looks so real, what am I
- 21:01Speaker 1: going to do? And then thank God I've got sound,
- 21:03Speaker 1: light and frequency here because at least I can turn
- 21:05Speaker 1: to you guys and tap into what your what your
- 21:08Speaker 1: experiences are.
- 21:10Speaker 3: Well, thank you for that. We're certainly going to try
- 21:12Speaker 3: to do that.
- 21:13Speaker 4: It's it's it's a it's a challenge and uh but
- 21:17Speaker 4: but I will say this, I have learned so much
- 21:21Speaker 4: just preparing to do these episodes because a lot of
- 21:25Speaker 4: the history of the Hollywood UFO connection is a hidden history,
- 21:30Speaker 4: just like the UFO history, that people don't haven't written
- 21:34Speaker 4: books about it, they haven't been on talk shows talking
- 21:37Speaker 4: about it.
- 21:38Speaker 3: So at least, uh, at least right now.
- 21:40Speaker 4: Brent and I are getting kind of an open field
- 21:42Speaker 4: on it because there aren't that many people in the
- 21:44Speaker 4: in the area.
- 21:45Speaker 1: How did we get up to twenty minutes already with
- 21:47Speaker 1: you guys? My god, I swear to god, we just
- 21:49Speaker 1: said hello to each other and it's like said, we
- 21:51Speaker 1: were just getting started here.
- 21:52Speaker 4: Dudes, Well, we appreciate it. We can always follow this
- 21:57Speaker 4: up and we hope we will.
- 21:58Speaker 3: Oh.
- 21:58Speaker 1: I can't thank you enough for this podcast because it
- 22:01Speaker 1: is a connection to where we are growing and you
- 22:04Speaker 1: just you just continue to identify the steps of the process,
- 22:08Speaker 1: and that's what people need to understand. These are steps
- 22:11Speaker 1: and you guys are the ones documenting them.
- 22:14Speaker 5: Well, thank you. Yeah, it's it's a fascinating conversation. And
- 22:17Speaker 5: like Bryce said, we'd love to continue it with you
- 22:21Speaker 5: or come to listen to the podcast. We have an
- 22:24Speaker 5: active investigation going and we have a conversation going in
- 22:28Speaker 5: our comments with all of our listeners.
- 22:30Speaker 1: Wow, will you guys be brilliant today?
- 22:32Speaker 3: Okay, thank you so much