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#0178_ The Rogan Experience — Unfiltered Conversations, Comedy & Culture · INSPIRE STORY

• 0:11
  Speaker 1: How many cigars are you smoking now?
• 0:13
  Speaker 2: What a show. No more than one. No more than one?
• 0:17
  Speaker 2: More than one, I'll get sick.
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: Is it.
• 0:19
  Speaker 2: It kind of.
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: Do you get any nicotine from it? Oh, yeah. You do?
• 0:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. Everybody does. Interesting. That's why they smoke cigars.
• 0:27
  Speaker 2: They don't just smoke it for the taste. Right. That's stupid.
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: That makes sense. But you don't inhale.
• 0:31
  Speaker 2: No, but you do... The tobacco is... You know, it's
• 0:35
  Speaker 2: pure tobacco. And you're getting that in your mouth. And
• 0:38
  Speaker 2: you're getting the nicotine in your mouth.
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: So you get a buzz. 100%.
• 0:42
  Speaker 2: We were even considering, Ari and I were smoking cigars
• 0:46
  Speaker 2: once in the beginning of Sober October. We're like, are
• 0:48
  Speaker 2: we cheating? I kind of feel like we're cheating. I
• 0:50
  Speaker 2: feel like I'm getting kind of high. People get high
• 0:53
  Speaker 2: from cigars, 100%. Interesting. It's just a different kind of high.
• 0:57
  Speaker 2: It's a nice conversational high. It's relaxed.
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: It's similar to cigarettes where you're not fucked up, but
• 1:07
  Speaker 1: cigarettes do provide a relief or a release, whatever that
• 1:12
  Speaker 1: nicotine is. Why is nicotine so addictive? It's not that addictive.
• 1:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, I like it, but if I was smoking
• 1:23
  Speaker 2: a vape pen a lot, I was doing it every day,
• 1:25
  Speaker 2: and then I just took it off and just didn't
• 1:27
  Speaker 2: do it for a week, and I just stopped craving
• 1:29
  Speaker 2: it totally. But maybe that's just me.
• 1:32
  Speaker 1: You have a constitution. It's easier for you. You're very disciplined.
• 1:37
  Speaker 1: Other people struggle with that. There's other people that cannot
• 1:42
  Speaker 1: do that. Cigarettes are tough. I've given up cocaine, alcohol, pills, marijuana.
• 1:49
  Speaker 1: I've not done a drug in 12 years. But cigarettes
• 1:53
  Speaker 1: are tough. And I haven't smoked now for two months.
• 1:57
  Speaker 1: But the one day in the near future, and I
• 1:59
  Speaker 1: don't know when.
• 2:00
  Speaker 2: Someone's going to give you a cigarette.
• 2:01
  Speaker 1: They're not even going to give it to me.
• 2:02
  Speaker 2: You just reach for it.
• 2:03
  Speaker 1: I'm going to request it.
• 2:04
  Speaker 2: And you're going to spark it out.
• 2:05
  Speaker 1: And I'm going to have a cigarette. And then I'm
• 2:07
  Speaker 1: just going to be sitting somewhere having a cigarette. Not
• 2:10
  Speaker 1: knowing how.
• 2:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Not knowing how it happened. Wouldn't it be awesome
• 2:15
  Speaker 2: if they were good for you? It would be amazing.
• 2:20
  Speaker 1: It would be amazing. Well, I love that scene from Sleeper,
• 2:22
  Speaker 1: the Woody Allen movie, where they freeze him and he
• 2:25
  Speaker 1: wakes up and they go, he goes, what should I
• 2:30
  Speaker 1: eat for breakfast? They go, red meat, eggs, and cigarettes.
• 2:32
  Speaker 2: And he goes, what?
• 2:33
  Speaker 1: He goes, no, it's all good for you. He goes,
• 2:34
  Speaker 1: everything we thought was bad for you is, like, great
• 2:36
  Speaker 1: for you. It's like, have some chocolate cake. It was like,
• 2:39
  Speaker 1: it's such a great scene. Well, they're right about red
• 2:41
  Speaker 1: meat and eggs. Yes, some of it's correct, right? Do
• 2:44
  Speaker 1: you think the sugar industry, because they're behind a lot
• 2:47
  Speaker 1: of the fat activism stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Are they really? Oh, yeah.
• 2:50
  Speaker 1: So if you look at it, you know, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of the people that go, listen, there's no difference, because,
• 2:56
  Speaker 1: you know, They just had this article, the L.A. school
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  Speaker 1: district was like, don't tell kids that, like, junk food's
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: bad because it's classist and racist or whatever. It's insanity. Like,
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  Speaker 1: don't tell them there's any difference between foods.
• 3:10
  Speaker 2: It's so crazy.
• 3:10
  Speaker 1: And what, you know, and it's all linked to this, like,
• 3:13
  Speaker 1: be always body positive no matter what. And a lot
• 3:17
  Speaker 1: of that is backed by, like, Nestle.
• 3:19
  Speaker 2: Well, I know there was some body positive people that
• 3:21
  Speaker 2: were on social media that they found out were getting
• 3:23
  Speaker 2: backed by Nestle or one of those companies.
• 3:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 3:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they were promoting the idea that there's no
• 3:29
  Speaker 2: difference in foods and there is no junk food and
• 3:33
  Speaker 2: it's all about your mental health.
• 3:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're mentally healthy apparently eating just ice cream
• 3:38
  Speaker 1: on a couch.
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  Speaker 2: But it's all about... It's so unscientific. And the fact
• 3:43
  Speaker 2: that that doesn't get fact checked online is so crazy. Right.
• 3:47
  Speaker 2: You can say, you know, something about COVID or something
• 3:51
  Speaker 2: about something else. And you'll immediately get that little banner
• 3:53
  Speaker 2: or either post that'll tell people that what you're saying.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they always use some example of like a person
• 3:58
  Speaker 1: who's robust, a little chubby and go, this person's healthy.
• 4:01
  Speaker 1: And then they'll always point like a skinny heroin addict
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  Speaker 1: and go, this person isn't. And you go, yeah, but
• 4:06
  Speaker 1: that's not.
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  Speaker 2: The overall, you know, thing. Yeah, even if you're, even
• 4:11
  Speaker 2: if you're like 50, 60 pounds overweight and you fit,
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  Speaker 2: you're still less healthy than you would be if you
• 4:20
  Speaker 2: weren't 50, 60 pounds overweight.
• 4:22
  Speaker 1: I think some of it is that there was a
• 4:25
  Speaker 1: weird period when I was growing up where all the
• 4:27
  Speaker 1: models were like sickly thin. Yeah. Where they were like gaunt.
• 4:30
  Speaker 2: They wanted them to be like hangers. They didn't really
• 4:32
  Speaker 2: want them to have bodies.
• 4:34
  Speaker 1: Well, it was like the Balenciaga thing, right? That came
• 4:36
  Speaker 1: up with the kids where it was like, this is
• 4:38
  Speaker 1: creepy and they're weird. And of course you probably saw
• 4:41
  Speaker 1: that like that weird advertisement where it's like kids have
• 4:44
  Speaker 1: these BDSM bears, these bears that are dressed up at
• 4:48
  Speaker 1: like leather daddies and kids have them. And, and people
• 4:51
  Speaker 1: in fashion have always been creepy and weird because like,
• 4:54
  Speaker 1: When I was growing up, the 90s, it was heroin chic.
• 4:57
  Speaker 1: And they made all these young girls look like they
• 4:59
  Speaker 1: were strung out junkies. So it was like they've always
• 5:01
  Speaker 1: been kind of off.
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  Speaker 2: Well, don't they kind of promote amphetamines to a lot
• 5:05
  Speaker 2: of those gals?
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  Speaker 1: I hope so.
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  Speaker 2: No, yes. But you can't be against fat activism and
• 5:13
  Speaker 2: against amphetamine.
• 5:14
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 5:15
  Speaker 1: Somebody's, you know. No, they do. I'm sure they promote. Well,
• 5:19
  Speaker 1: fashion is all about sexual currency. Like everyone asks me about,
• 5:23
  Speaker 1: you know, they talk about Hollywood, they go like, Hollywood's
• 5:25
  Speaker 1: run on like, Sex appeal. I'm like, not the one
• 5:28
  Speaker 1: I'm in. I'll tell you right now. Are you in Hollywood, though? Yeah,
• 5:34
  Speaker 1: I have no idea. I have a house there, but, like,
• 5:38
  Speaker 1: this idea that, like, people talk about Hollywood, like, it's
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  Speaker 1: just one thing, and they're like, it's run on sexual currency.
• 5:43
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, not the lineup at the improv, you know? Like,
• 5:47
  Speaker 1: not the lineup at the comedy store.
• 5:49
  Speaker 2: How about Roseanne?
• 5:50
  Speaker 1: Right. There's a lot of people where it wasn't. But, like, yeah, those,
• 5:53
  Speaker 1: because all of these human trafficking people, they all have their, like,
• 5:57
  Speaker 1: hooks into fashion. Like, oh yeah. So John Luke Brunel,
• 6:01
  Speaker 1: who was the guy that, you know, was like a
• 6:03
  Speaker 1: big Epstein confidant and associate was like a high level
• 6:07
  Speaker 1: fashion photographer. And it makes sense because like, they're recruiting
• 6:12
  Speaker 1: these girls when they're young and they're impressionable, and they're like,
• 6:17
  Speaker 1: you know, hey, here's this guy in Ghislaine Mack. So
• 6:21
  Speaker 1: if you want good-looking people, you're probably not gonna go
• 6:24
  Speaker 1: to a comedy club, right? You're gonna go to a
• 6:26
  Speaker 1: modeling shoot. Not that there are good-looking comics, but I mean, young, impressionable,
• 6:32
  Speaker 1: good-looking people are found in modeling. So I think that's
• 6:35
  Speaker 1: why a lot of them.
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  Speaker 2: It is a bizarre job. It's a really strange job.
• 6:39
  Speaker 2: You stand there and pose. What's the woman's name that
• 6:43
  Speaker 2: was married to Tom Brady?
• 6:44
  Speaker 1: Gisele Bundchen.
• 6:45
  Speaker 2: She's worth more than him.
• 6:48
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah. How?
• 6:50
  Speaker 2: Just by being hot.
• 6:51
  Speaker 1: Just by being hot.
• 6:52
  Speaker 2: Isn't that amazing? It's huge. Greatest quarterback of all time.
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  Speaker 2: In the biggest game in all of North America.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And a woman just by virtue of being pretty.
• 7:02
  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Wins. She wins.
• 7:04
  Speaker 1: She wins.
• 7:05
  Speaker 2: And she's like, I'm done with this guy. He keeps
• 7:06
  Speaker 2: wanting to play football. Yeah.
• 7:08
  Speaker 1: But now you're looking at it's changing. It's changing. We're
• 7:12
  Speaker 1: pretty now. Like if you're a model, I mean they...
• 7:15
  Speaker 1: The look is changing, right? I mean, it's a lot
• 7:18
  Speaker 1: of bigger people and it's a lot of not as
• 7:21
  Speaker 1: pretty people or not traditionally pretty.
• 7:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's not all changing, but there's some.
• 7:27
  Speaker 2: You can't deny nature. You can't.
• 7:30
  Speaker 1: A hundred percent.
• 7:31
  Speaker 2: Nature is all about perspective.
• 7:34
  Speaker 1: Well, there was no fat activism on Epstein's Island. You
• 7:36
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, he was not. Maybe there was.
• 7:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think he was, like, concerned with diversity. Like,
• 7:44
  Speaker 1: you know, the people that are purveyors of just people's looks.
• 7:48
  Speaker 2: Are just, you know. Maybe he had a request list.
• 7:51
  Speaker 1: He might have.
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  Speaker 2: Who knows? He might have. What are you into?
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  Speaker 1: Right. You know? Yeah, like, you fill out a questionnaire. Yeah.
• 7:56
  Speaker 2: You know? Like, you fill out a questionnaire. Like, the
• 7:59
  Speaker 2: spoke post. I don't even know if they sponsor me anymore.
• 8:01
  Speaker 2: There's been people like that. that have been sex trafficking forever.
• 8:05
  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: But it's shocking to people that it's going on now.
• 8:08
  Speaker 2: They're like, what? Still?
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  Speaker 1: But here's, yeah, it's, there is sex trafficking for sure.
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  Speaker 1: But there's also like, I was in Romania. I did
• 8:17
  Speaker 1: a Bitcoin guy brought me over there to do his
• 8:20
  Speaker 1: birthday party. Didn't you hang out with Andrew Tate over there?
• 8:22
  Speaker 1: I did. I did 20 minutes of comedy and it
• 8:24
  Speaker 1: bombed because it was, people weren't really speaking English. and
• 8:28
  Speaker 1: the ones that could didn't love me. Some of them
• 8:34
  Speaker 1: liked me, and one guy pointed at me and just yelled,
• 8:37
  Speaker 1: Joe Rogan, because he had seen me on this. Some
• 8:40
  Speaker 1: Russian crazy guy just got up in the middle of
• 8:42
  Speaker 1: the set and went, wrote again, Joe Rogan, and then
• 8:45
  Speaker 1: sat down, and then they brought him out. It was insane,
• 8:49
  Speaker 1: but they paid me a lot of money to do it,
• 8:51
  Speaker 1: and then there was only one person there to really interview,
• 8:54
  Speaker 1: and it was Andrew Tate, so I went to his house,
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  Speaker 1: And he's a lovely guy. Here's the thing about him
• 8:57
  Speaker 1: and his brother. They are lovely people. Whether they're human
• 9:00
  Speaker 1: traffickers or not. They're lovely people. I'm not for human trafficking.
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  Speaker 1: But they took us out for a steak dinner. And
• 9:05
  Speaker 1: there was women there. And a lot of the women
• 9:07
  Speaker 1: were quiet. And I thought they were just quiet. That
• 9:10
  Speaker 1: would be my story. If I'm called to testify. The
• 9:14
  Speaker 1: women were quiet. And they were obedient. And many of
• 9:17
  Speaker 1: them looked at the floor.
• 9:18
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 9:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: But it's Eastern Europe, Joe. That's kind of the way
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  Speaker 1: they act. And coming from America, it was a little
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: bit of a nice change of pace.
• 9:27
  Speaker 2: We stunned.
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: No, I mean coming from, it was nice.
• 9:31
  Speaker 2: Coming, yeah. Were you stunned when you got arrested?
• 9:36
  Speaker 1: It wasn't stunning.
• 9:37
  Speaker 2: It wasn't, like.
• 9:39
  Speaker 1: When eventually I smoke another cigarette, would I be stunned
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: that I have a cigarette in my hand?
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: No.
• 9:45
  Speaker 1: I wasn't stunned that he got arrested. It was surprising
• 9:47
  Speaker 1: to me because, listen, people say things about somebody and
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: you hope that they're not true, right? Because he has
• 9:53
  Speaker 1: some wacky opinions, but he has some opinions that I
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: would say are probably you know, pretty, pretty reasonable.
• 10:00
  Speaker 2: And interesting.
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: And interesting that people should, you know, stop being victims
• 10:03
  Speaker 1: and go out and work and figure stuff out. And that,
• 10:07
  Speaker 1: you know, this world does leave you out in many
• 10:11
  Speaker 1: cases and you have to figure a way around things.
• 10:13
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: He calls it the matrix or whatever, but like, You
• 10:15
  Speaker 1: have to be pretty like resilient. I think some of
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: those messages are good. I think some of his stuff
• 10:21
  Speaker 1: is funny and over the top, but you clearly don't
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: want this to be true. You'd never want, you know,
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: this to be true. And I hope it's not true.
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: They think it's true.
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, is Romania corrupt?
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: Yes, it's corrupt. It's a Soviet, you know, Eastern bloc.
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: country where I think a lot of people get paid off.
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: I think Tate even talked about that it was kind
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: of a corrupt country and that people just kind of
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: paid each other off. And like, I think it's just
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: the way a lot of those Eastern European countries work where,
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: you know, America's corruption is, is, is, and you know, Tate,
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: you know, kind of made this point, right? American corruption
• 10:58
  Speaker 1: is like big deal corruption.
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: Billionaires right you got to be you have a lot
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: of money to play.
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: The game you got to have the you know Serious
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: capital in places like that you know you don't have
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: to be a billionaire to influence things you can have
• 11:14
  Speaker 1: a small business and Have enough money to be like
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: you're in the game you pay you pay people off
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: to get the business open and then you pay people
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: off to keep the business safe and I think it's
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: kind of maybe the way America worked in the 70s
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: before Corporations owned everything That's what it seems like. But again,
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: I only spent.
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: Why did he move to Romania? Isn't he from the UK? Yes.
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: Well, that's certainly not a great part of his defense,
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: is that he's living in Romania. He did live there.
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: His attitude was... I live here because I like the
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: freedom to do what I want. But some of his
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: detractors would say that it's easier to get away with
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: stuff there. He's even kind of said that. You can
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: kind of do what you want. You can kind of
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: do what you want. Now, maybe that means driving your
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: car fast. Also, it might mean human traffic. I don't know.
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: So he runs the gamut. But you can get away.
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: It's a weird place to live if you could choose
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: to live anywhere. It's an interesting place to live. The
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: people were lovely. You know.
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: Have you ever thought of where you'd live outside of
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: the United States?
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'd probably have to go back with my
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: people in Ireland. I think we all have to go
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: to our people. I mean, you'd go to Italy. We
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: have to go to our.
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: People, no?
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: I think. I go to my people and they're just
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: laying around eating. I know.
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'll go to your people. They stopped building cathedrals. Well,
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: my people are drinking. But I mean, I guess you,
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if I'd go to Brazil
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: or something. I think, you know, I've been to Ireland.
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: I've performed in Dublin. And it's kind of like, I
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: don't know, you feel... I don't know that I'd ever
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: live outside of the U.S., but you do feel like
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a kinship. Do you feel any
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: of that when you go back to Italy?
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: Not too much.
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: No, I enjoy it. I enjoy their way of life.
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: I enjoy the way they behave and talk. I like Ireland.
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: They're all tortured. They're tortured. You've got to see the
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: new movie, The Banshees of Innishiren.
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: It's really good.
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: It's the crew from In Bruges.
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: It's amazing. It's like Colin Farrell, Brenda Gleeson, Martin McDonagh directed.
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: It's really good. And they shoot it in Galway, Ireland.
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: Ireland's beautiful.
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: It is beautiful when it's not raining. Yeah, when it's
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: not raining, it's beautiful.
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: But yeah, but the people there, you know, it's a
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: very different lifestyle than America. So I don't know that
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: I could ever do it, but I don't know. Where
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: would you go?
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: Well, the only reason why I'd go is if some
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: horrible shit went down in the United States.
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: And what are the chances of that? It's just.
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, if fucking, if like Manhattan gets hit with
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: a nuke. Right.
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: That's not a good sign.
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: No. And that's when you have to really think, oh
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: my God, do I stay here? Right.
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: If LA gets hit with a nuke, it's like, eh.
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: They deserve it.
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: You know, you go, well, you know, as long as
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: I'm not there, I'd be like, uh, I would be sad.
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: I would text Andy Letterman like, love you. Goodbye.
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But yeah.
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: But Manhattan gets hit with a nuke because New York's
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: the nerve center of the country. So if that gets hit,
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: we're in trouble.
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: Isn't that weird that New York's the nerve center of
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: the country?
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: Not really if you've been there. Well, because it's, number one,
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: it was before America. It was a Dutch fur trading outpost.
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: It was a marketplace. But America's a capitalist country. So
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: everything's about commerce. And New York predates America, right? It
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: goes back to the 1600s.
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: Does it really? Oh, yeah.
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: New York, it was New Amsterdam, you know, before. Oh,
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, before America became anything. And it's just
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: the best city we have. It's the best we can
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: do as a country. Now, not everyone's going to want
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: to live in a place like New York. It's expensive.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: You live on top of each other. But it's got
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: the best of everything. When you think about, you know,
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: all of the things that a country can do, New
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: York probably does them all. The best for what we
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: can do as America.
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: Food. Yeah.
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, everything like that.
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: Education. I mean, all the big. companies.
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: A lot of them are headquartered there.
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: It's kind of... Stock market. Yeah.
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: It's an amazing city. You have this amazing diverse population
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: of people that all become kind of New Yorkers and
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: all kind of meld together. It's a real city.
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: You know what was great about it before the crime
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: really upticked?
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: Crime's not helping.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: The thing was great that you would be around everybody
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: would just like from all walks of life would walk
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: on the streets together and ride the subway together. It's
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: like there's a real mixture of people, whereas in Los Angeles,
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: people are just in their cars.
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: Los Angeles is an isolating and lonely place where everybody's
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: out for the same thing, which is fame.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: Well, if they're not out for it, they're out to capitalize.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: If they're not out for it, even the doctor in
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: Los Angeles will brag about his celebrity clients, right? Like,
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: you're going to Los Angeles in many cases to build something, right?
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: You want, and you know, it becomes, it's not a
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: community in the way that New York is. New York
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: feels more like a community and you get the best
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: of everything. So you have people in New York that
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: are like going to be the best architects or the
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: best chefs, or, you know, maybe the best baseball players
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: or the best whatever, you know, and you, you put
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: them all together and like, there's excellence all around. Even
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: the buildings, when you look at the buildings in New York,
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: you go, you know, Emery Roth or, you know, all
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: these great architects, Henry Hardenberg built the Dakota where Lennon
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: lived or the Plaza. Like you're just around this amazing
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: architecture and Some of it's been around for hundreds of.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: Years and it inspires you and you feel great. I
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: was watching this online piece about this lady who pretended
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: to be a billionaire so that she could go to
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: all the different places that were being sold.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: And so she could take photos of their views. Yeah.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: But it was a really interesting perspective. No one should
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: have this kind of money. No one should have this
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: kind of money. Well, how do you stop that?
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: You can't stop it. And I was also like, I've
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: been doing that too, going to places I can't afford
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: and looking at them. But I don't take the tact
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: that no one should have that kind of money.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: You take the tact that one day.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: I look at it and go, I'd like this kind
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: of money.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: I think that there's a limit where money doesn't make
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: you happy, but it is nice to have. And this
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: idea that, you know, there is a new generation of
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: people coming up where fulfillment is the main thing, which
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: I understand, and that's good. But I also think at
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, like, you know, we shouldn't
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: lie about the fact that like, Being, you know, working
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: and like getting the benefits of earning a living that
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: you can be comfortable with is good. And you're not
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: always going to be happy all the time. Not every
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: job you have, you're not going to love.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: So I think a lot of young kids coming up
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: right now are like, I need to be inspired at
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: every moment of the day or I need to be really.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: And it's like there's a lot of shit jobs that
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: you do and you don't realize why you do them
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: until you get to the next thing. And then you go, oh,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: I learned something in that job that I didn't realize
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: I needed.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Well, money doesn't make you happy, but it does relieve desperation.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: And desperation makes you sad. That's true. The desperation of
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: not knowing if you're going to be able to pay
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: your bills and that pressure and stress of it. I
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: clearly remember when I got my first development deal and
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: I got money in the bank and I just like,
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: it was like a weight, like a physical weight had
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: lifted off my shoulders. Because for the first time in
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: my life, I didn't worry about how I was going
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: to pay the rent. And that was interesting.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: What year was that? 93. And that was the first
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: time you took a breath? Yeah. Yeah.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: I was like, wow. This is what this feels like.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: It's hard, especially with comedy. Because when you start, there's
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: not a lot of money for a while. No.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: You're barely getting by. You got no health insurance. You're getting...
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: a couple hundred bucks here, a couple hundred bucks there.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: You're trying to scratch together a living, pay your rent,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: pay your bills, pay your gas bill.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: And when you get done, you know, with the week
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: and you pay all the stuff, you know, you don't
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: have anything left and that's how you're living. You live
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: in hand to mouth.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: And you're always wondering like, am I going to fill
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: my books so I can get enough road work so
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: I can pay everything? And, you know, you don't know
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: where it's going to go. And then getting a big check,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: I got a big check from Disney of all people. And, uh,
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: I started going to restaurants and I was eating nice.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: My manager actually thought I had a gambling problem. Yeah.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Because he saw what you were spending.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I'm eating out. Right. I'm having lobster. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: It's interesting when you transition from being anxious about that
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: stuff to at least taking a breath and going. Yeah.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: It's a huge advantage.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a big advantage. You can focus more on
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: being creative.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: But the hunger of not knowing where you're going and
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: what's going to happen, that fuels people. But it doesn't
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: fuel everybody. Some people don't. have the constitution for it
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: and it fucks them up. Yeah.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: So many of the articles you read now are about
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: How they seem to be preparing people to live with less. Going,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: you don't need to own anything. You'll be happy renting.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: That's not World Economic Forum.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: No, I know.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: It's shitty to read.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: That's such nonsense. But it's also because people don't have anything.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: And when they don't have anything and they see people
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: who have things, they think there's something wrong with those people.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: There's no way they did it the right way. Those
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: people are all criminals. There's this attitude that people have
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: when they're poor. when they look at people that are wealthy,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: like those people are evil. There's no way they're not evil,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: which is ridiculous. It's ridiculous. Because if you got a
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: job that paid more money and you kept working up
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: and you got more and more money and you're the
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: same fucking person, now all of a sudden you're wealthy.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Are you evil now? Right. Did you do this by
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: subjugating people? Did you do this by stealing?
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: No. Well, there's such a vast chasm of like intelligence too, right?
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: So you have like brilliant people and then you have
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: people that are, you know, they're just kind of struggling.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: And I think that like, Sometimes even understanding the world
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: that we live in and even understanding how to make money.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Or is difficult for a lot of people.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: There is also a lot of fuckery and a lot
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: of corruption and like sometimes bad people get a lot
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: of money, but that's just the way it is. There's
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: bad people without a lot of money, you know? Yeah.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: But just understanding how to make money is difficult, I think,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: for a lot of people because you don't learn anything
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: about money in school. You know, you go through 18
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: years of school. You don't hear the word credit card.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: interest rate. I mean, it's kind of amazing. You get
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: some basic economics courses in high school, but the consumer economy,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: the things you would need to learn, you just don't
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: learn a ton about that.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: All right. How much did I discuss with you about
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: how student loans, you have to pay back no matter what?
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, not really.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Even if you go bankrupt.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: They're not really like.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Maybe they're doing it more now, but they leave out
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: this stunning amount of information that you would need. And
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people... you know, are, are,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: you know, you very smart people that can tell you
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: all about history or whatever, you know, and I've been
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: one of like a person who like, I remember the,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: one of the first credit cards I got, it had
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: like a $ 200 activation fee and the limit was like
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: two 50. This was years ago. I tried to use
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: it at a restaurant and they're like this. And I'm like,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: this is impossible. It had to go through. I just
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: got it. And literally I looked, it was a $ 200
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: activation fee and I only had 50 whatever dollars available credit. Like,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: You get in that system and you fuck yourself, it's
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: hard to get out of it.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: I know a lot of people did that when they
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: were struggling. They got into credit card debt. It's hard.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: And the interest rate keeps going up.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Then you get under it.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: You're only paying the minimum amount every month. So just
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: like the actual chunk of money that you owe doesn't
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: really shrink.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: What's good about America is there's no debtor's prison, so
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: you can declare bankruptcy.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Unless you have student loans.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: That's the one thing they'll get you on, which is wild.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: I tell people all the time just declare bankruptcy and
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: just let it go.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Let it go. Yeah, but if you let the student
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: loans go.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: You can't let the student loans go. But I say
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: don't even go to school. Like it's– what are you
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: even doing in– I mean when you think about it,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: what is– every story coming out of an American university
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: is like some– it's like– they're holding the teacher at
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: gunpoint now because she said something nice about Columbus. I
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: don't even understand what anyone's learning, unless you're a finance guy.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: I'm going to Princeton, or you're a tech person, you're
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: going to Stanford. But these low-level, mid-tier schools, do we
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: need them? I mean, they exist for football, and it's fun.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: You go have fun. You go get fucked up for
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: four years, you enjoy yourself, but do you really... I
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: don't know what you get out of it anymore.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: It depends on what you're trying to do. If you
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: just wanted education, you just want to have more information
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: and you're not thinking about using it as a career.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Which nobody does. Right. But if you did that, you
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: can learn some things in college. And if you wanted
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: to be a doctor, well, that's the way to do it.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: If you want to be a lawyer, that's the way
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: to do it. You have to go through university.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: But we don't need more of them. We don't need
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: more doctors. We don't need more lawyers. And in terms
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: of doctors, we probably don't need more doctors. We have
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: enough doctors in terms of like... You know, we have
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: a lot of doctors. We have every kind of doctor.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: We have plastic surgeons. We have all kinds of doctors.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: It's like, it's, you know, especially because... Yeah, but they
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: die off. That's a good point, I guess. I mean,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: then okay. You've got to keep refreshing the population. But
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: if you're not going to be a doctor, and you're
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: not going to be like a lawyer, it's like.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got a few people doing that. Engineering, mathematics.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Most people are just in marketing. People go, I'm in
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: business marketing. You ever talk to a kid, they're like,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: I'm in business marketing. They have no idea what's going on.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Well, they don't know what to do. They're filled with hormones.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: They're partying outside their house for the first time. Living
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: in dorms. Yeah. Getting laid.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: It's a good experience.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: It's a fun experience. I never had it. I went
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: to community college and I dropped out to start selling
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: subprime mortgages. So I regret... not going to college, but
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: I like my, my journey was meaningful too, but yeah,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: I regret it. I regret not going kind of.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: What do you regret about it?
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: The experience that you would have had in a college
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: where you're living on your own with.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Everyone, your age.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: But I think I, I, you know, my life would
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: have been very different had I done that. I don't know,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: but it might've been different probably. So I think the
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: life I had was, was good because I love comedy.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: I like what I do and I think it's good
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: to go through crazy shit. And have it be funny.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: But I think a college experience is interesting if you
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: make the most of it.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: You ever think about what life would be like if
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: you didn't do comedy? Yeah, I do.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Like during the pandemic, how long did you go without
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: doing comedy? I think I was doing the podcast every week.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: But I did, you know, when they shut it down
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: in March. And then I think the first time I
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: was on stage.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Might have been, you know.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: I did a comedy club. Vinnie Brand in New Jersey
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: opened up the Stress Factory outside. And he had an
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: entire outside thing.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: He had a tent. He had a tent.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: And I don't know when I did that, but I
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: did it. And it might have been three or four months.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Maybe it was five months.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't remember exactly. It might have
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: been longer than that. But it was weird.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You thought about it. You're like, what would I do? Well,
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: what was weird to me was when it seemed like
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: there was a possibility that we could never go back
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: to doing it again.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: The first few months. What if it just stays like this?
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: What if it stays like this? No shows ever again.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: And I just have this distant memory of what it's
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: like to do stand-up.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Because it is the best thing. The internet's fun, but
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: it's like being in a room with real people that
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: are live, you need that human connection.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great time, too.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Because some of the YouTubers that never are around people,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: like it's a little weird. Oh, yeah. Like the people
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: whose entire interactions with everyone in life is just on
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: the internet, you can look at them, you go, there's
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: something off. And when you talk to them, they're kind
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: of like, they always hate that they're not online. Like
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: when you talk to some of them in real life,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: they're kind of like, they want to be in front
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: of a computer screen.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: That's where they're most comfortable. That's what they're accustomed to.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: That's what they're accustomed to, and it's a little sick.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: But for me, I love that I grew up without that,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: and now we have it. But I like that I
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: didn't grow up in front of that screen.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Well, I think it definitely does something about your social development.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: And there was an article recently about how it affects
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: children's brains in a measurable way, like this connection to
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: social media.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, for sure. It's undeniable. If you're not interacting with
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: people for the most part, and you're most of the time,
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: like if your job is to be a streamer, and
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: the more you stream, the more money you make, and
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: you're streaming all day, your connection with humans has got
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: to be very strange and different than anybody that's ever
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: existed before.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very interesting.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Because you are interacting with people. Yes. But you're not
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: interacting with anybody in person. Right. And a lot of
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: it is just you putting something out there, and then
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: people reacting to the thing you put out there. It's
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: almost like sending a messenger message.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Pigeon it's very interesting it's definitely a unique vantage point
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: where because you look also dealing with people online that
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: a lot of them are anonymous a lot of them
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: are kind of you know it's different than it would
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: be if they were in front of you you know
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: speaking to you face to face you know people are
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: you know really either you're trolling or they have their
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: guard down they're saying whatever they want to say some
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: of them are being completely honest. Some of them are
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: just trying to have fun.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Some of that, you know? Yeah.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: So you, you, you get to see like, you know,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: maybe the.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Best and worst.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's interesting.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Well, you get to see what people are like in
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: the back of their mind without social interaction, without communicating
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: with people. You get to see like those little, the
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: little base thoughts that people have. Right. Shitty ideas that
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: people have about other people and just the shitty ideas
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: they have about themselves.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: It's astounding to me how many people, like when I
• 28:46
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• 28:49
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• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Health and how bad their mental health is.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I talk a lot about it on stage now.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: You know, having a mother who's mentally ill, genuinely, right?
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: And I don't mean that other people, you know, obviously
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: mental illness is running rampant. But it does also seem
• 29:06
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  Speaker 1: diagnose herself on Instagram she's genuinely she's in an institution
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  Speaker 1: she cannot live in a you know and I think
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  Speaker 1: that's different than like you know for example you know
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  Speaker 1: depression and depression is a very bad thing but there's
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: clinical depression there's also situational depression where some of the
• 29:30
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  Speaker 2: How do you discern? It's hard. What's the cause though?
• 29:37
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• 29:44
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• 29:49
  Speaker 2: I don't want to be dismissive of people with real
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: depression because I know people that have it. Yes. And
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  Speaker 1: Some people have a chemical imbalance and some people that
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• 30:26
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• 32:01
  Speaker 1: guy that just killed those, you know, I don't know
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• 32:05
  Speaker 2: The Idaho guy.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: The Idaho guy.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: That's a fuck.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Well, it's weird because for six weeks they were like,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: we don't have one lead. And then everyone's like.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: They didn't talk about it.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Because you don't talk about it. Yeah. When cops are
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: investigating something. Yeah. I mean, dude, they vacuumed that place
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: looking for DNA. Right. They got genealogy DNA. Right. So
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: they mapped the DNA to people that were related to
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: this guy.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Crazy.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: So it's not that they didn't have any leads. Well,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: they didn't share it.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Well, why would they?
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Because it's entertaining for me. I would like to know.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: I would like to know.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: That guy scares the shit out of me.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: No, he.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: That there's people like that. That there's people like that.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: The people that went to school with him said that
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: when he went back to school... This is obviously if
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: he did it. That he was noticeably happier and noticeably
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: had more energy and more lively in interacting with people. Well...
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Which is fucking creepy. That's a really sick person. Yeah. Well,
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: this is a guy that was studying... criminal behavior and
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: stuff i mean he was.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: That's crazy he came back after and he was happier.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Well that's what they said but also this is hearsay
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: but this is also people that you know know him
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: and maybe they think he's a creep.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: And right you know who knows but the idea that
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: you could be have that in your brain where you
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: one day you could just you could stalk these people
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: or whatever figure out how to murder people and just
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: go in kill these innocent people and leave and go
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: to school the next day. Like that is somebody's brain
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: that's fucked. There's no other way to say it.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: There's no other way to say it. There's no other
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: way to say it. And they think there's just a
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: certain percentage of those people. Like there's a certain percentage
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: of sociopaths.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: And I guess the challenge is identifying them.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, psychopaths, sociopaths.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: That's where the text or stuff comes in and you
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: start to get nervous about it because like they'll be like, well,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: we want to start identifying those types of people early.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, but that's almost, you know, you run
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: the risk there of, you know, drawing lines around a
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: lot of people were never going to do that who
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: are either goofy.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Or funny or silly or saying dumb shit online and then,
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: you know, you... They like death metal.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they like death metal, whatever.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: They like horror movies.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: They listen to my podcast, whatever.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: They really don't want to hurt anybody.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't want to hurt people. But at the
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: end of the day, it's like, that's where a lot
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: of that tech stuff comes from. They're like, well, we
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: gotta identify these, like, anti-social people.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: What's Minority Report?
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's what it is.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Pre-crime.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Pre-crime.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's scary shit.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: It's scary.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: It's scary also because, like... There's people that at times
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: in their life, like there was a guy who was
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: on this podcast, you know John Bernthal, the actor? Yes.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Great guy. Yeah, yeah. What an interesting dude. Interesting. Like
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: way different than, you know, when people think of actors,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: they think of people that are insincere. This guy's the
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: opposite of that. He's super sincere, really intelligent, really articulate,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: very deep and interesting guy, and a really nice guy too. Really,
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: really liked him. But he was talking about this guy
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: that he knew. That he interviewed that was, he was
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: going to blow up a mosque. And he went into
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: this mosque. He had this hate of Muslims after coming
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: back from overseas.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: From serving. And he was going to blow up a mosque.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: And he went in there and he met this woman
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: who welcomed him into the mosque. And he was still
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: totally intent on blowing her up, blowing everybody up. She
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: invited him over her home for dinner. He was still
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: intent on it. So he gets to know her and
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: his family, completely changes course, becomes a devout Muslim. Wow.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: And then talked about the whole experience, about what his
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: plans were and that he didn't do it. And now
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: he's just like very happy.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Well, that's like there was a prison guard in Guantanamo
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Bay that converted to Islam. He was a prison guard.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: That's how you know you're losing the war, America. By
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: the way, that's not a great sign. But he converted
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: to Islam because... You know, he struck up a friendship
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: with a guy in the thing. I think people are
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: looking for something. That gives them purpose. The intensity of
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: belief is always interesting to me. And the people, and I, like,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: you know, Camille Pagli wrote an interesting article about Obama.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: And she goes, he's such a brilliant guy, but one
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: thing he doesn't seem to understand is, like, religion. He
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: doesn't understand the passion and intensity of belief systems because
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: he is so intelligent that he doesn't seem to grasp
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: that which motivates people.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: How does she know that, though?
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Well, she just made comments on the way he would
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: talk about religion. I think this was after he made
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: that comment, like people cling to their guns and their
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Bibles or whatever. And she was like, I don't think
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: he fully you know, understands, you know, being a Harvard
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: educated guy, like he doesn't fully understand, you know, that
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: religion provides a great comfort to many people and an
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: organizing principle for their life, right? I do think that
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: it can spill over into this, you know, fervor that's unhealthy, right?
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: And you see that with fundamentalist religion everywhere, where it's like,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: whether it's you're a Christian or Muslim, you know, there
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: is a certain, you know, value to critical thinking and
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: not cult, you know, behavior. But yeah, that's interesting. A
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: story like that where a guy goes in to kill
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: people and goes, well, I want to be one of you.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: That's someone who's looking for something.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, obviously just the fact that he wanted to
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: go in there and blow the mosque up. He's obviously
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: in a bad place.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: He's not in a good place.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: And sometimes when people get involved in a really rigid ideology,
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: a religion with a bunch of other people that are committed,
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: they feel a sense of community and purpose and it
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: gives them discipline and focus and And the Islamic faith
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: is particularly rigid in that regard and particularly devout.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: A lot of those faiths are, if you follow the
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: letter of the law, like in the Western world, a
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: lot of our faiths have been tempered by the types
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: of governments we have, right? So where we have a
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: separation of religion and government. But in other parts of
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: the world, they don't. And I think one of the
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: problems now, and you're seeing this kind of resurgence now,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: of religion, which I think could be good.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: It depends, right?
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: On, on the form it takes. But a lot of the,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: the Western world is cut. People feel an emptiness now
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: that we've, you know, religion isn't big in America, but
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: we haven't replaced it with anything. Like people are still
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day trying to figure out
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: why are we here?
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: What are we doing here?
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Does anything happen.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: When we die?
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: How should we behave towards each other? And, We haven't
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: given them anything. They had this, you know, my grandparents
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: were devout. My grandmother was devout Catholic. My grandfather was
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: a devout Catholic. She was still a Democrat and voted.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: You know, she was still like, you know, not someone who,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: you know, but she went to church all the time
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: in her life and the way she believed, you know, the, we,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: they were both, you know, when they, I was around
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: both of them when they died. You couldn't find a
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: more peaceful person. As they were dying.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Because they believed.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: They believed. Like my grandfather, when he was diagnosed with
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: cancer and they said, you don't have much left, he said, like,
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: you know, my kingdom is not of this earth. He's like,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: that's fine with me. He was really at peace. My grandmother, too.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: My grandmother said, I've lived a good life.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Well, that's what people want.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: That's what people want. They want that peace.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: They want to be at peace. Yeah. It's very hard
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: to achieve peace in this world.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: It's very hard.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Especially if you're doing difficult things.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: It's very hard. It's very hard to, just the battles
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: you have in your own mind with failure and everything
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: that you're doing in life. It's difficult. The people that
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: you interact with, the chaos and- You know, struggles and
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: strife and then the why. What is it all for?
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: If you don't have a what is it all for,
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: it can get really fucking weird. Yeah.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: And I think that not knowing that chaos, people can't
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: deal with it. And it's easier maybe for people that
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: can block all that out and just go. But I
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: think a lot of people struggle with that.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Well, a lot of people use drugs to block it out.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: A lot of people use drugs. A lot of people
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: like amphetamines, right? Right. Because it just blocks it out. Boom, boom, boom.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: You just go, go, go, go, go. You just go.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Keep going.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Your purpose isn't going. Yeah. You know? Yeah. It just
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: kind of gets muted.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's difficult. It's difficult, I think, for a lot
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: of people to just make peace with the idea that
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: it's the unknown.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: You know? Like, we really don't know. Like it, you know,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, you could follow a system, you can try
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: to be, you know, and that's where I guess some
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: of that DMT shit that you've, that helps people seem to,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: people seem to come back from some psychedelic experiences and
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: feel better about everything.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah. I definitely do. Yeah.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: It's definitely changed the way I look at things. Yeah.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: It's just the fact that that's real, that you can
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: actually have that experience.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: How does everybody not know about this? How is this
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: not promoted?
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: And obviously not for everybody, especially not for people who
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: already have a slippery grasp on reality itself. That's a problem.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: It's a big problem with psychedelics and not just psychedelics,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: but like milder psychedelics like marijuana and people with schizophrenia.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: That's what Alex Berenson wrote about in his book, Tell
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Your Children. Yeah. It's a very interesting book because a
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: lot of people that are pro-marijuana, including myself, instinctively want
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: to reject this notion that it triggers schizophrenia.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But it does.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: I think it might. I think with some people. I mean,
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: it doesn't with me, but I think some people that
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: have a tendency or an inclination towards that and they
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: have like a really heroic dose of edibles or something
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: like that. I've seen people crack. I know multiple people
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: in my life that have gotten really fucked up from
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: weed and.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Got crazy paranoid. And it's hard to know until you've
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: done it, right? It's basically it's too late. Yeah. Like,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: you know, people, you know, they smoke pot, they want
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: to smoke pot and then eventually like, you know, maybe something,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: some underlying, you know, tendencies, schizophrenia, like that stuff just
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: comes out. They don't know it.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: And a lot of them are smoking it all day,
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: every day. And so that's the reality. The reality, the
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: way they interface with the world is through cannabis. Like they're,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: they're too much. It's probably, but some people are fine
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: with it.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: And then everybody's on pills, right? I mean, there's the
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: amount of people that are on SSRIs or, Depression meds
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: or anxiety meds. I mean, it's a massive amount of people.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: It's a lot of people.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: There's so much money in it.
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Just get vaccinated. Stop with the pills. Just get a
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: COVID vaccine every four months. You'll feel better about whatever's wrong.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: Will you? Yeah.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, my aunt's on her ninth booster and she
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: feels great. She calls me, get boosted.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: I just got boosted.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: She's great.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: Her eyes are blood red. I wonder if people get
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: addicted to doing it.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, by the way.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Like they want to do it more often, a little nervous.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: We need an article about the person who's gotten vaccinated
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: 100 times for COVID.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: What's the person alive that got vaccinated the most times
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: right now for COVID?
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: There's definitely somebody who's gotten vaccinated way more than they
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: should have.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: What's the number you think? Ooh, I don't know. Like,
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: you know how like people that are hooked on oxys,
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: they go to a different doctor, especially before the, I
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: had a friend who was, he fucked himself up. I
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: forget what his injury was, but he got on oxys
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: in Texas and then he moved to California and got
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: on oxys with a different doctor and was getting both
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: doctors to prescribe him. And then he went off the rails.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Doctor shopping.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. They call it. Well, it's a fact that I
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: guess the doctor in Texas didn't know that the doctor
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: in LA was giving it to him. So he's getting
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: double dose and then he was getting it on the street.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: And then next thing you know, like he's fucking gone.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It was pretty normal before that happened. Yeah. There's definitely, there's,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: there's gotta be people that are abusing vaccines.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Like what I would like to know, like what's the moat.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: Is there the, see Google this. He's looking. It's hard
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: to find. Person who has been vaccinated.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: By the way, there's no way Pfizer likes that article. No. Right?
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: It's got probably like online support groups. Guinness is not
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: putting this person in any way.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: No, this is.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: They're keeping this quiet. But there's probably like some online
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: things where people are like discussing, like, you know, there's...
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: People that they feel like they should chop a hand off. Yes.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: You know, they feel like they're not supposed to have
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: a left hand.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: Well, there's also weird stuff where people pretend to be disabled.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Yes. They want to be.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: They want to be disabled. There's something about it.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: It's like trans disabled.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I mean, but the brain is such
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: an amazing thing, right? Like Oliver Sacks was just amazing.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: I forget what he was. I call it.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: He wrote a book called The Man Who Mistook His
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Wife for a Hat. And it was this crazy book
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: about rare brain conditions where, like, people just, for whatever reason,
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: their brains functioned in a way that was so puzzling,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: even to doctors. Even doctors were like, what the fuck
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: is this? Yeah. Now, obviously, that stuff keeps you up
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: at night, so you don't want to, you know, because
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: you start to get hypochondria.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: You go, I don't know. I had a headache yesterday.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: It makes sense. I mean, the brain is like a
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: very complicated biological computer in some ways. Like, you ever
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: drop your phone and just start doing wacky shit? Yeah.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: I had a phone once. I dropped it in Hawaii
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: and just started calling people. Yeah. I would just hang
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: up and it would just randomly call someone else. Hang up,
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: randomly call someone else. Like, look at this shit.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: And that's what your brain will do.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: Some people's brains.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: It's just the wires are wrong. Everything's fucked. Something got
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: knocked loose. Yeah. And that's crazy. That's you forever. Yeah.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: That's what I say about knockouts. Some people that have
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: been knocked out, they don't come back the same person.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: They're in a new world now. They're a new human
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: with a new way of interfacing because their brain is fucked. Yeah.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Are you now with all the bad press with the NFTs,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: are you happy you never took my advice?
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: Yes. Not only did I not take your advice, I
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: refused advertisements.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That was smart. Yeah.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: There was a few of those. Crypto. Yeah. Fucking. And
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: I'm like, uh-uh. That's not real. Yeah. I'm not getting
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: involved in telling people to put their money into something
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: that I don't fucking believe in. It's tough. It was
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: a gamble. You know? And, you know, a lot of
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: people lost. And that's, you know. Now a lot of
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: people are getting held to the account. Right? There's a
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: lot of people. Logan Paul.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: A lot of these guys. People are. People are upset
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: at people.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Tom Brady. A lot of those people are getting sued
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: in a class action lawsuit. A lot of people are angry.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Paul, how about those Matt Damon commercials where he's comparing
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: it to Magellan and fucking people that landed on the moon. Yeah, yeah.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: Be brave.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Be brave with your fucking entire life savings.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian got involved.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: Well, those people were throwing money around. They were throwing
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: a lot of fucking money around.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, not to me. But we had a– It could
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: have been. We did crypto ads on the show, not
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: for specific things. Yeah, we did crypto ads for like,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: you know, if you want to invest in crypto, here's
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: a good service to invest with. But it wasn't like–
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: I wasn't like pumping my.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: Own Dylan coin. Right.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I wasn't doing that. But like, yeah,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: I mean like I would still do ads for FTX.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Like if they, I would still do them. If, if they,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? If there was a plan,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: like if Sam Beckman Freed said to me, we're going
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: to make everyone whole, which is what he keeps saying.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: How is that even possible?
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Well, it's hard.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: Aren't there millions of creditors? So much. Millions. Millions. So
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: there's millions of people he owes money to. So even
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: if he owes them $ 1. Yeah.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: He goes, I just want to make them whole. Like
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: they keep interviewing him and he keeps going. My goal
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: here is to make the customers whole. And so if
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: he called me and goes, we're going to make everyone
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: whole and we're going to pay your rate and we're
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: going to get in there and do some ads, it's like,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to hold one mistake against him.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: Do you think he thinks that he can just do
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: it again?
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: Because he did it already.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: I believe that a guy like that believes I was
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: in a room with Bill Clinton. I was in a
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: room with Joe Biden. I was in a room with
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: the most powerful people in the world. I was the
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: second biggest donor to Joe Biden's presidential campaign. I... I
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: can get out of this and maybe serve my sentence
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: or he pled not guilty. So he might be thinking like,
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: there's a comeback story. It's what's getting him up every day.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: There's no way that a redemption arc is not motivating
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: his behavior. Do you think they let him be on
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: amphetamines now?
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know. Cause wasn't that part of the problem?
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: They were all jacked up on pills.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Well, part of the problem was they were just, well,
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: maybe that's true. And I think that's part of the problem.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: Part of the problem is, This is also all bullshit,
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: kind of, you know? That's also part of the problem, right?
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: That's the problem.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Bitcoin, like a lot of this stuff didn't get implemented, right?
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: It's not being used. It's not like the currency is
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: not being used. Well, you know, FTX didn't even, they
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: didn't even trade in Bitcoin. No, they would do these
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: other fucking bullshit things.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: Which is really wild.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: It's wild. And then they had the Alameda region, you know,
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: they were just doing a sex cult in the Bahamas
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: with ugly people.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: And I'm for that. I'm for it, too.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: I'm for it.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: It's a great story if it was real. Yes. Like
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: if they were just making money and banging each other
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: and taking pills. Yeah, it's a sex cult for gross nerds.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: It worked out great for a while. Yes. And during
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: that time, it was a wonderful story.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: It's amazing they couldn't get hot people with the amount
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: of money they had. But they just had gross, smart
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: people fucking each other on an island. How great. Everyone
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: looked gross. Nobody looked like they showered. People's hair was weird.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: It was like an old hippie commune. Yeah, but what
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: was the purpose of the Bahamas? Is this the regulatory
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: thing there? Yeah, they don't want to be under the
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: watch for life. They wanted to get out and do.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: Do you know, Jamie? Do you know? You're over there?
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: What is the- It's regulators, US regulators.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: Something that has to do with that.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: Because a bunch of cryptos are down there.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: No, they're all down there. By the way, they all
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: moved to Puerto Rico. Why do you think that is?
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: Well, it's all taxes.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: It's 4% tax rate, and they can kind of do
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: whatever they want. And now they're all being found dead.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: What?
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: All these crypto guys, a lot of them are like,
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: one guy ended up, he tweeted like, the CIA is
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: going to kill me, and then he ended up in
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: the ocean.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, that was- I did see that.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: That seemed- Odd.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: A little sketchy. A little sketchy.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: Because a lot of what happens, I think, with these guys,
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: these Bitcoin guys, is the government has to understand this
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: stuff better, right? So the government has to go and
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: figure out, how are you guys doing? You know what
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: I mean? And the government probably sends agents out to
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: befriend these people, right? And then these people either figure
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: something out they shouldn't figure out. Or are no longer useful.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: And then what happens when you're no longer useful is
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: you go.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: It's not useful.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: You're a liability.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: Well, you become a liability. It's not that they're no
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: longer useful. It's that they could possibly tell a story
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: that could get people fucked.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that could expose the identities of people.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. The guy who drowned, what was he saying?
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: You know that story, Jamie, right? But it is one
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: of many. And you also have to think, look, look,
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: you're not dealing with the mentally the healthiest people in
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: the world. That's true. CIA, Mossad, and pedo elite are
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: running some kind of sex trafficking entrapment black rail ring
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: out of Puerto Rico and the Caribbean islands. They're going
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: to frame me with a laptop planted by my ex-girlfriend
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: who was a spy. They will torture me to death.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: By the way, this guy's a fun guy to do
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: lunch with. You just want to talk. I mean, by
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: the way, if somebody said that to me, I'd go,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: go on.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: That's the gentleman right there? Yeah. Oh, boy. Oh, boy.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: They all have that look. Sam Bankman, you know what
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: I mean? But that is what you would do. And
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: I don't mean Jewish.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: But that is what you would do if you were
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: an intelligence agency and you wanted to entrap a nerd.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: You would bring a hot spy. Of course.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: And they have hot spies.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: Of course. I've seen James Bond.
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: Of course they're bringing in a hot spy.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: That's what they do.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: That's how you know FTX was uncompromised. There were no
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: hot spies.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: That's true. That's a good point.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: That was uncompromised. The CIA was like, I can't believe it.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: They actually want to fuck each other. That's what you
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: can't crack them. They have 10 people to choose from.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: They're all on an island. Guys and girls just banging
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: each other. Yeah. And when you're on that amount of
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: amphetamines and what else they're on, who knows? They're probably
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: enjoying every fucking second of it.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The Indian guy's attractive in FTX. I will say that.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: Everyone else is gross. I don't want to put him
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: in with the rest. Who?
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: There was an Indian guy who was attractive, but everybody
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: else was rough.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: He's probably the king.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was rough. Everybody else was rough. Well, Freed
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: was the king because he was the The mastermind.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: He was the mastermind. Well, he also had that mom
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: that was a Democratic operative.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: And they went to Stanford, man. It's so funny because
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: I walked around Stanford. I was doing the San Jose
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: Improv and I walked around Stanford. And you do get
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: a vibe. It's interesting. It's like they are the future leaders.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: Those are the tech, you know, it's like Harvard and Yale.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: Fuck all that. That old wasp money. Fuck that.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: It's all about Stanford.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: So these are all the folks?
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: One guy's good looking. He's the guy.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: That's the guy.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: Well, the guy with the glasses to the right of
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: him is not bad looking.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: You know what? Take out those glasses. But that's the
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: best picture he took. And if you saw him in
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: real life, you'd.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: Go, oh. No. Come on.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: I think the Indian guy holds up.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: No, no, no. That guy with the blue V-neck, he
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: could go to the gym, get jacked, shave his head.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: He's got good features. Bad skin. I'm just telling you. No.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you if you saw him in real life,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: he had a horrible skin.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: Really? He's very oily. How do you know?
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: I just feel it.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, you're just guessing. I'm just feeling it. You're being mean.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: I'm not being mean. First of all, they stole everyone's money. Well,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: did he? Is he in trouble as well?
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: Because it seems like only Sam Bankman Freed is in jail.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: Which is pretty wild. Yeah, because other people flipped.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: They became rats. Well, Caroline did, right?
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: Caroline flipped because there's no honor anymore. Well, put those
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: photos up. There's one other gentleman flipped, too, right?
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: Gary Wang flipped. Which one is he?
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: I believe he's Asian.
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: If he's not, he's culturally appropriating. If he's not, he's
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: got to explain it to them. Yeah, which guy flipped?
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: I'm going to guess that's Gary Wang. Well, or the
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: guy next to him.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: Gun to my head, that's Gary Wang.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: What about the guy next to him?
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: That's a Persaud.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: That's a Wang. Okay. And so those... I mean, that
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: guy to the left. I mean, he looks like British.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: Are they all? Oh, there's Gary Wang. I got it.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: You son of a bitch.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: See, Brett Harrison already looks worse.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: See? Is that the same guy?
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: Dude, he already looks worse.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: Wait, that's the same guy? It's already rougher. Go back
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: to the picture. That's the same guy. That can't be
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: the same guy.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Joe.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: No, that's not the same guy.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: I guarantee it's the same dude.
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: No, it's the guy to the right of him, isn't it?
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: We got to find it. Go back again. Let me
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: see that again and go back to the other one again. No.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe you're right.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: No fucking way. I don't know, dude. That guy's balding.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: The other guy had a full head of hair. Go back.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: Full head of hair. Luscious hair.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, his hair is nice. His hair is good.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: No, there's no way that's the same guy. That's a
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: handsome fellow with the V-neck. I'm in his corner.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: Leave him alone.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: Okay, but let's see.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you got there? Those are the names. Okay,
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: so here's the inner circle.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: Okay, keep going down. We know her.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: She's wild.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: She's a wild one.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: Listening to her talking, there's Sam Chewbacca. I mean, this guy. Yeah,
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: he's not. No, there's Gary Wayne. Gary Wayne. He's in trouble.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: There's William McCaskill. Okay, all right. Wait a minute. William McCaskill. Mentor.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: He was a mentor. Mentor of Sam Bank from Free.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: Scroll back down again. What does it say? Philosophy professor
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: at Oxford. Chief architect of effective altruism. Didn't we have
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: him on the podcast? Did you have him on the podcast?
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: Are you involved in this?
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: Hold on a second.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: The feds break in right now.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: I think we had someone on the podcast.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow. That's him?
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: That was talking about effective altruism. Yeah. He was a
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: very nice guy. And I think there was a request
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: to have him back on recently before the shit hit
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: the fan. Yeah. That's him. Handsome fellow.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he isn't bad.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: No, he's... Very nice guy. He was talking about effectiveness.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: He's a sweetheart.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: Let's hear him talk.
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: Hear him talk a little bit. They're going to be
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: interested in learning. They're going to have huge, amazing computer power.
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: They're going to be able to create simulations of the past.
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: They're going to have some interest in running simulations of
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: the past. If that is true, then the number of
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: simulations that these future people are going to be running
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: will vastly outnumber the number of actual timelines, the kind
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: of base universe, as it were. So for the one
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: real universe where history kind of unfolds, there's also, let's
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: call it, you know, 10,000 simulations of that universe. And
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: if that's true, then it's the case that, well, given
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: that I'm just, you know, these things really are indiscernible
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: for the people who are inside them, It's overwhelmingly likely,
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: just in the base rate, that I'm going to be
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: in a simulation rather than in the real world. And
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: what Nick Bostrom says, actually, is not that we definitely
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: are in a simulation, but he just points out the
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: conflict between these three kind of beliefs that we would
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: seem to hold. One is that we're not going to
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: go extinct in the near future. Two is that people
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: in the future will have some interest in simulating the past.
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: And thirdly, that we're not living in a simulation. And
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: he himself gives, you know, a reasonable degree of belief.
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: Maybe he thinks it's like 10% likely, 15% likely that
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: we're in a simulation. Other people who understand the argument
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: vary a bit more, but I think, you know, it's
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: something you should at least be taking seriously. The reason
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: I reject it is kind of even weirder, I think,
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: or it's somewhat technical.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: Well, what's interesting is like.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm going to give a dumb answer, so
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: let's get out of there right now. Sam Bankman Freed
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: heard that and went, great, we're going to do it,
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: and we don't care if the experiences are real.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: Well, I would imagine that Will McCaskill was involved in...
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: with them because they were donating a lot of money
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: to altruistic causes. And that's probably what his position was.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: His whole thing was about giving, he gave away most
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: of his income. I believe he only kept some very
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: small amount, like $ 30, 000 a year. And most of his
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: money that he earned, he was giving away to cars.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: That's how you know they're real bad.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: Folks when they start giving away their money.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: That's how you know. He's giving away his own money.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: I know. He lived a very simple life. I know.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: So is Warren Buffett and Bill Gates, the angels. They're
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: all giving away. All these billionaires are like, we're going
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: to give away our money and we're sitting up all
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: these foundations. And a lot of it's a fraud.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: It's like a tax scam.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: And the other thing is like, it's never enough. They're
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: not just giving you the money. They're giving you the
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: money and then going, and here's what I want society
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: to look like.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: That's the problem.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: They go, here's my ideas on public health policy. It's like,
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: you started Microsoft. What the fuck do you know about it?
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: Go, shut up.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: This is what I want.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: Here's what I want. It is bizarre when they get
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: involved with public health policy. Why is Bill Gates buying
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: up farmland? Why is Bill Gates buying up farmland? Telling
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: everybody not to eat meat.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a weird thing where they have, they want
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: to socially engineer society and they think from where they sit,
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: they can do that. And the cover for that is
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: we're doing everything for you You're going to love it.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: It's going to be better. And just to prove I'm
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: not a crazy lunatic who wants control over you, look,
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: all this money I have, I'm giving it away.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: Yay. Here it is.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: I'm throwing it out. and the reality is they're just
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: doing it to increase their power base i mean it
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: seems none of them are broke they're all just you
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: know interesting Yeah.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: The farmland stuff is wild.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: It's wild. Why would he buy it?
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: Also seeds. You know, he controls most of the seeds.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: Or a large number of seeds. They want a meatless future.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing about, because everyone can be trans, but
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: then I go, what's the point of that? Like, they
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: just want a genderless. Like everyone's genderless and like typing
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: a pod.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but Bill Gates is not genderless. I know. That
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: was the thing about Gates is that he likes pussy. Yeah,
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: And he was, you know, so to me, I go,
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: what is the part? Like if everyone's like this weird, like,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: you know, androgynous pod person, I go, who even benefits
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: from this? I don't know.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: Do you really think that's what they want?
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: Yes, kind of.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: If society gets boiled down to this thing where we're
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: not dangerous anymore.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: They want a very docile group of people. And I
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: think this is what they've always wanted.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: Well, if you can make all the men feminine.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: You can make all the men feminine. That's a way
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: to stop revolt. If you can plug everybody into the
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: idea that they are always doing the right thing. And
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: everything they're being told to do is for the betterment
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: of others. And there's this social responsibility they have. It's
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: good to do this and it's bad to do that.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: And when you introduce all these things, because most people
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: want to be good people. So if you can get
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: them there, which is why the woke shit goes so
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: far because people go, I just want to be a
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: good person. So I don't want to deal with it.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: So I think that's a part of it. They just
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: want everybody to be It's kind of a slave state
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: where everyone will just go and work at their jobs
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: and not complain. And corporations will, you know, own everything
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: and everybody. And, you know, they tell you what they want.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, the articles are out. You know, you'll own
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: nothing and be happy. You'll have no savings. You don't
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: need to own a car. You don't need to own
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: a house. You can just be on Uber. Well, we'll
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: know where you're going. Isn't that wild that you will
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: own nothing and you'll be happy? But this is the–
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: and the people– it's wilder that the people who are
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: writing that own everything.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: But obviously someone has to own things. Right.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: Otherwise you would just take whatever you want. That article
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: came out, I think like Bloomberg or something. It came
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: out in something where you'd go, what? Like, so it's
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: the people that own everything are telling you that you
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: don't need to own anything. And that the gig economy
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: is great. You can just go from gig to gig
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: to gig. And you're on, you know, you're on the grid.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: Well, maybe the idea is, like, if you wanted to
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: look at it in the most charitable way, if you
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: extrapolate it to the future, like, maybe one of the
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: things that's holding people back is this desire to possess things.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: And is this desire to constantly accumulate wealth and money
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: and power. And if it was even across the board
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: and we could just concentrate on the things that we
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: enjoy doing and not concentrate on things like accumulation.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: People don't enjoy doing.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: It's not human, though. That's the problem. It's not human.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: You're talking about things other than human beings. The guy in.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: Idaho concentrated on what he enjoyed doing, and now we
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: have four people dead. By the way, everybody was like, oh,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: COVID's here. No one's working anymore. It's going to be
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: a paradise. Look, everyone's going to start community gardens.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: What happened?
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: I remember a lot of things getting burned down. People
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: need shit to do.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: Social isolation, too.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they shouldn't be slaves to their jobs, but people
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: need things to do. And when you talk about people
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: owning things and material things, it's like, People want houses.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: It's not only a material thing, right? It's a way
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: to basically provide a sense of security, safety, comfort that
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: you're not depending necessarily on someone else to provide you.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: You're able to independently give your family a certain quality
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: of life because you own a home. When you own
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: a car, you have the ability to travel and get
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: a job that you want, per se. You know, you
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: have more freedom. I look at all those things as freedom, right?
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: And you're right. There is a materialist angle of that where, like,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: you can always get caught up, you know, the house
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: isn't big enough or the car is not nicer or whatever.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: But at the bare bones, these people are just, I think,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: trying to, you know— basically self-actualize and have things and
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: the people that are telling them they don't need any
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: of those things. I mean, well then what the hell
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: are they replacing it with? You know, in apartments you
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: rent and.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: Everybody will tell you the color of the wall.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: And you know, noise after 10 has to be, that's
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: why people stop with Airbnb. People don't, Airbnb is going
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: to go out of business soon because people don't Google that.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: Are you saying that? Are you saying that just because
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: you got banned from Airbnb?
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: It's completely a coincidence I'm saying this. Airbnb got too
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: crazy with the rules. They kept telling everyone to clean
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: their own stuff up. And people are like, well, I'm
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: paying a huge cleaning fee. And why am I not
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: supposed to be loud after 10 p.m.? They got rule obsessed.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: And people are sick of it. And now Airbnb is
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: going to go out of business. And hotels are back.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: Everyone likes hotels now. Airbnb is zero. And hotels are winning.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: Is this true? Yes. People are going back to hotels.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: People are getting sick of Airbnb.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: But is Airbnb, like, is that an actual fact?
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: Well, they're putting all kinds of... No.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: I'm glad this is your podcast, not mine.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: It's... And here's the brilliance of this setup. No one
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: knows it's mine.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: So I get all these views because they think it's yours.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: They think it's back on YouTube. It's great. We don't
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: even say it's mine. We just put it out. I
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: start doing ads for Traeger Grill. Um.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: But no, I think, I think Airbnbs are, they got
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: restrictive and there are articles about it. Like, obviously I'm kidding.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: They're not going out of business, but people started saying like,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: Hey man, I'm on vacation. Like when I check into
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: an Airbnb and there's 35 rules, I don't feel like
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: I'm on vacation.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: Now, is this just up to the person who owns
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: the home?
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: And they decide what the rules are? Yes.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: But it just got too much.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: But can you look at that in advance before you
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: decide to rent a house?
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: I believe you can.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: But then some of the days spring on you. But
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: it's a.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: Lot of them now. A lot of these things are like,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: you know, everybody's just like, there's no, don't be, because
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: they're in residential areas. So they're like, well, don't be
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: loud after 10.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: Well, it's got to be a problem. Because I know
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: it's a problem because I know a guy who owns
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: a home. And right next to his home, he lives
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: in a wealthy area. And they rented it out to
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: TikTok kids. It was like an Airbnb at a really
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: baller place. You want some coffee? Yes. There's a, they
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: rented it out. Only a little.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: Tell me when. That's fine. Okay. They rented it out
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: to a bunch of TikTok kids and they were having
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: all these parties all the time and he started getting
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: really pissed off because like his neighborhood would be crowded
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: with cars now and. And they're in this very wealthy community,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: this really nice house.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: TikTok kids have a shit ton of money.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: When I would rent these Airbnbs, what happens is I
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: would just sit in the backyard with a microphone and
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: scream because I'd be doing my podcast. And people wouldn't
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: like it because somebody would be raising their kids. And
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: I'm like, Meghan Markle's a whore. And they're like, what is?
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, it's my job. It's legitimately my job.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: to do. I'd be smoking cigarettes and yelling into a
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: microphone and they'd go, Hey man, this is not, so
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: I get it. But you know, that's why people, you know,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: I think are gravitating back to, you know, Airbnb felt
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: very pandemic-y. Everyone's like, I'll vacation in someone else's life.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: Let me see, you know, you know, it was interesting.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: It was like, Oh, you know, everything, you know, had
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: become possible during the pandemic. And people were like, maybe,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: you know, people are moving around. People were, questioning all
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: kinds of things.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: And it was interesting.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: They're like, what would it be like to live in
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: wherever and all living out? But now people I think
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: are just going, Hey man, let's go to a fucking hotel.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: The maids come in, they clean, they have room service. So,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I think. Sorry, Airbnb.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: I think this might be motivated by your hate for
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: Airbnb because it is off the platform.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: Airbnb is on the outs or is it? Airbnb is
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: once lauded. A vacation rental model begins to go stale.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: Who disrupts a disruptor? Oh, interesting. Has the Airbnb bubble burst?
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: According to one recent viral tweet, Airbnb hosts have seen
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: bookings evaporate since the busy summer travel season. Air bust.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: Airbnb bust is upon us. What's going on with Airbnb?
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: No bookings at all. Okay, so people who, this is
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: Airbnb super hosts.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: And also they're putting more restrictions on rentals in certain communities, right?
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: So Tahoe. Look at this. It says, has anyone seen
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: a huge decrease in bookings over the last three to
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: four months? We went from at least 50% occupancy to
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: literally 0% the last two months. I'm just curious if
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: something's going on with my property or if other people
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: are seeing similar things. I'm in Palm Springs. Where are
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: you located?
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: Stop telling people. Yeah. Joshua tree. Stop telling people to
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: take their own garbage out. Stop telling them to clean
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: their own dishes, make it an actual vacation experience for them.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: Get off your lazy asses, walk into your house and
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: do the dishes for people and take out the garbage
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: and have a maid do it. They pay a $ 500
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: cleaning fee. That should be cleaning. Someone needs to clean.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: So that's a huge problem. And that's the problem that
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: I had where it's like I'm paying a cleaning fee.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: I should also not have to clean on top of
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: that and stop with the COVID cleaning. It's fake. Well,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: it's a deep COVID clean. It's fake.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: What do you mean, deep COVID clean?
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: They used to say that during the pandemic. They'd be like,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: we're doing a deep COVID clean. It's like, number one,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: it doesn't live on surfaces. Number two, this is fake.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: So they were charging you more money for that? Of course.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: You know the game. Deep COVID clean.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: I just think that it's one of those things where
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: it's been interesting to see it change, right? And they're
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: also putting Tahoe just banned short-term rentals. Really? Got to
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: be 30 days.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: Really? Interesting. Interesting. Interesting. So they essentially put Airbnb out
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: of business there.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: They don't want you doing short-term rentals in Tahoe Jamie
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: make sure that's true, but I believe that that is true.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: Someone told me.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: That interesting Well, Tahoe is a big money place.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: It's a huge place and there's a lot of money
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: there But there I think they're getting sick of the
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: short-term rentals.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: Interesting The Tahoe kind of makes sense to me.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: Have you ever swam in it? It's supposedly so cold,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: it's like you can't breathe.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: Like an ice bath? Kind of. Interesting.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: They say it's one of the coldest lakes.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: It stays cold all year. Oh, it's a glacier lake?
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Mark Twain said it would revive a mummy. Yeah,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: I've never swam.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: In it, but supposedly it's really like... I wonder what
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: the temperature is.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 4: I see above last year they capped short-term rentals, but
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: this is almost a year ago, so I don't know
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 4: if something happened since then.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: When you said capped, what does it mean?
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: Um.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: This is a six-month moratorium. So, like, whatever was there now,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 4: you can't have any more additional short-term rentals added to
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: the county or the.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they were getting real upset with short-term rentals. And
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: I think they might have just actually just banned it
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: and just said, you got to.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: Do 30 days. Hmm. See if that's true.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true or not.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: They didn't have an update. Yeah.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: My realtor said that. I don't know if that's true
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: or not.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: But... Oh, why would your realtor lie to you? I
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: don't think... Just get a better realtor. I think he wouldn't. Yeah.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: So blame him.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: But... It's... You know, the whole getting people to stay
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: in your house for a little while and pretend it's
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: a hotel but then make them clean up, that does
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: seem a little problematic.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: It's weird.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: It seems like you should hire a maid.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: It's strange. And it's confusing because you check in and
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: you go, well, I want to treat this like my house.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: And I treat my house like shit. Here it is.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: What does it say here? Wired Cities cites New York
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: City and Lake Tahoe as examples. Arizona SB 1350, a
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: law that bypasses states' ban on short-term rentals, means that
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: such a crackdown is unlikely to happen.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: So what does that even mean?
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 4: While some locations across the world have instituted crackdowns or
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: wholesale bans on Airbnb, such as... New York City and
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: Lake Tahoe.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: Wired cities.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: What does that mean?
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: Wired is where the article is, I think.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: I get it. So some locations have instituted crackdowns or
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: even wholesale bans. So that does seem to prove your point.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: So Wired cites New York. So it's Wired magazine that's
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: got this going on. Gotcha. New York City and Lake
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: Tahoe as examples.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this article is about Sedona getting crippled by the
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: Airbnb gold rush. This came out five days ago.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: It's also creepy, man. Most Airbnbs you stay in, people
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: are watching you.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: What?
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: Most Airbnbs you stay in, people are watching you.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: They're watching you?
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: With little cameras?
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: Not even like that, but sometimes there are weird cameras.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: I've heard that before. There's surveillance. It's weird. Literally, they'll
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: tell you when you check in, they're like, don't have
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: any people here because you're on camera and the neighbors
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: are watching. So it's like, they're like, don't have anybody over,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: don't have any parties, like, we're watching.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: It sounds creepy. Someone's pretending to be a hotel, but
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: they're a private individual that wants absolute control, but they
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: don't understand how hotels work.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: This is why Airbnb is a sick company that has
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: allowed a lot of people's, like, weird voyeuristic impulses to
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: take over, and they've monetized it. It should be outlawed. Frankly,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: they should outlaw Airbnb.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: Woman books Airbnb only to find it's an abandoned villa
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: with smashed windows. Oh, wow. So it's in Bali though. Right.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: So this is, what did she get here? No one home.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: Well, that's no one's supposed to be home.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: There's a pond smashed windows. Where's the smash windows. Oh, okay.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: Well, here's the deal.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: It's like, you know, it's, it's interesting.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: I think if you have a large group of people,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: I totally understand like why you would consider being in
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: a place, but just go to a hotel.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: That's what you do now. Yeah.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, you were a Mr.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: Airbnb.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: I use them all the time. Cause they were cool
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: and they were fun. You could, you'd be like I'm
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: living like a person who lives in suburban Houston right
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: and then you're like now it's just I've gotten to
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: the point where it's like well they got rid of
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: me and there was no process you know which was
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: unfortunate like there was no I was not able to
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: defend myself like there was no like you know it's
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: like the way deplatforming works they just go you're done
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: yeah so that was it so that's unfortunate but.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: So you're like a little bit happy That they're on
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: the slide.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a little bit happy that they're on
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: the slide. But I knew it because I knew when
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: you start asking me to clean up after myself, I
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: know it's over. It's America and people need to be
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: able to leave it. If the cleaning fee wasn't there,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: I totally understand.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: But the cleaning fee is there. It's like, take out
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: the garbage. Do this. Do that. It's like, what? What
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: are you talking about?
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: I'm on vacation here in suburban Maryland. In your shithole.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: This is a fucking vacation. So treat it like such.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: The problem with Airbnb is a lot of them are like,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of people that are trying
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: to make some extra bucks. And they open a room
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: or a garage or whatever it is. And it is
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: good for certain people, right? Certain people are like, hey,
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: you know, it works for me. I'm new to this area.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: I want to see what it's like.
• 1:14:13
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• 1:14:48
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  Speaker 2: What else do you think changed in a big way
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: because of the pandemic that's never gone back? There's a
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: lot of talk about remote work. Yeah. But now it
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: seems like companies are realizing that the way to get
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: people to really work is they got to be in
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: the office.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: Well, I also think people's marriages.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: Is that true?
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: I think people's, well, I don't know. I think there
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: is still a lot of hybrid work, a lot of
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: remote work going on. I think people are saying come
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: in less than you used to. I also think people's marriages,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: like you can't just sit at home all day. Like
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: my friend and his wife worked together. Like not worked together,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: but worked in a house together. And he goes, listen,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: I love her and she loves me, but like it
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: was very healthy for us to go out every day
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: and have different social environments.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: And then come back together at night. Right. It was
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: very healthy to have that. Not like every minute. be
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: in the same house where she has a corridor, I
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: have a corridor, and we're meeting all the time. It
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: was healthy. So I think that's going to go back
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: where people realize that there's more to work than just work.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: There is this social arrangement, and I think that people
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: in a house all the time, that seems to be,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know how that will be negotiated going forward,
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: but I do think that you're not going to have
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: all remote work. There's no way. People are going to
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: want to leave their fucking house.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Some people don't, though. Some people love the idea
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: they didn't have to commute.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: Yes. Well, that's true, too, because the commutes are getting
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: worse and worse because, you know, there's more and more
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: people in cities. So the commutes are getting worse and worse.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: But it was also, I think, people just love the
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: idea that they could be free, that they're still working,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: but they can do it on their terms. But then
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: jobs started instituting things where they would monitor your clicks
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: and monitor your computer.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: They'd give you a work computer and then people were
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: installing those programs that moved the mouse around randomly and
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: clicked on things. Nothing is free.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: Nothing is free.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So whatever you get, whatever you get.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: Nothing's free. You know, it's I think, you know, after
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: that period, it was interesting because a lot of people
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: reflected on like, what do I really want to do?
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: Do I really want to do what I'm doing?
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: So you saw industries, the service industry has still not
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: come back because people have left the service industry permanently.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: Like a lot of people left waiting tables. People left
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: jobs they didn't want to do. Right. And they were like,
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: I want to do something else and maybe I want
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: to live somewhere else. And I think it gave people
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: a lot of time to stop and think about the
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: direction of what they were doing. And then some people
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: changed it. You know, it's interesting to see. I mean,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: I still feel the places still feel understaffed. A little bit.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: Some places.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: Some places still feel like they haven't fully come back.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: Well, at the end of the pandemic, when things were
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: really opening up again, that's what I saw. A lot
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: of places. You would go there and there was a
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: long wait for tables. Yeah. And you'd see open tables
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: and they're like, we just don't have enough wait staff.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: We don't have people.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: So it'll be interesting to see what comes.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: I think when we look back on it, I think
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: in like 10 years, it's got to be so far
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: in the rear view that 10 years from now, I
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: think people are going to look at it and be like,
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: what the fuck was that?
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: It's going to be interesting. Oh, for sure. In many ways.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: In many ways.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: And the fact that everybody just sort of complied and
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: that people were doing the job of the government by
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: telling other people what to do.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: The conflicting information that people were getting every day, do this,
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: do that, don't do this.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: And knowing now because of the Twitter files and all
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: the stuff that the government was involved in that. Oh, sure.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think most people had assumed that.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: I don't think most people did. Well, a lot of
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: people did. Suspicious people did.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: I know a lot of suspicious people.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I think most people were kind of like,
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: this is a big mess.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: And because, you know, I mean, it was a big mess.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: And I think like a lot of this. will shake
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: out years later. It will shake out years later. Things
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: tend to shake out when everyone's dead. Things shake out
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: years later. Biden still wouldn't release some of the Kennedy files, right?
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: These things still go on. People go like, we're holding
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: back a few. There's just a few.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: It's like just release to one page where you admit
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: you killed them.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: Well, you're big on conspiracy theories. I know, but you're not.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm a little bit. Sometimes I get back. I
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: go back and forth. You go back and forth. This
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: one is a big one. The Kennedy one is a
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: big one. And did you see Tucker Carlson? We had
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: the program where he said he talked to this guy
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: who's read the files and the CIA killed Kennedy. Yeah.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's like everyone knows that. Three-year-olds know that.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: But the fact that he said it on Fox News.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: It's wild. The fact that he said it without any
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: worry about repercussions.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think everyone knows. It's one of those things
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: now where everybody kind of knows there was fuckery. Everybody
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: knows there was really something wrong.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: Not everybody. Michael Shermer's convinced. Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: But that's his beat.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: Shermer's beat is going like, this isn't a conspiracy. So
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: the same way you can't trust a guy who's beat
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: is everything's a conspiracy.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: You can't trust someone who goes nothing's a conspiracy. Right.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: To say that there are no conspiracies is patently absurd.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: But he doesn't do that. He says there are conspiracies.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: Understood.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: He's just reluctant to give in to ones that he
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: has supported in the past as not being conspiracies.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's a huge credibility issue.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: Well, it's also like then it calls into question all
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: of your other assertions.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: Yes, of course. And I've heard you talk to him
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: and I've heard him talk and I know that he's
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: a smart guy and he's done his research. But like
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: he's just come to conclusions, I think, that are unreasonable.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: Well, the Kennedy one, just that one. The magic bullet
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: one was the big one for me.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: What does a guy like that say about Epstein? Does
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: he just look at everything and go, yeah, he got sad.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: He killed himself.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: Good question. Right. Did we discuss Epstein with him? I
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know if we did. We've discussed
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: it so many times.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just like I feel like with the
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: Kennedy one, the reason that they haven't let it really
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: seep out, and now it's obviously long enough where it's
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: seeped out, is that it's kind of the mother of
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: all conspiracies. All of them descend from Kennedy, meaning that
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: if you can have a coup— in a country like America,
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: where you have an element of the government or whatever
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: it is, kill the president, right? And install the vice president, essentially.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: We don't have a free country. We don't have a democracy.
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  Speaker 1: All of that shit is fake.
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  Speaker 2: It's all bullshit.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: It all sounds nice. But if that is out and
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: widely believed, you could wave the flag. You could have
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: people go out and sing the national anthem before the games.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: But if that gets out and people really understand, and
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: they also go, well, where are all those motherfuckers now?
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: What are they doing now?
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: Most of them are probably dead. Well, yeah, but what
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: about the people that are still working over there? Like,
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: are they?
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: Have they gotten more honest in the past 50 years? Right.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: Everything evolves.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: Everything evolves. So they might not be whacking people out
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: in the open, but what are they doing? How are
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: they controlling people? What are you not allowed to ask
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: questions about?
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: That's what the Kennedy one for me has always been like.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: That's the mother of all of them. They can't let
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: that one slip. And when it slips, however, it'll be
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: some like rogue. It was a rogue element of the guy.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: And we don't, you know, we have no idea.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: But that's when they. They came up with the term
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: conspiracy theory. That's right. Conspiracy theorists.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: And they use it as a disparaging term. Yeah. And
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: that's what the origin of it. That was planted.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, if people looked at our system of government,
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: they would not come to the same conclusions that we
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: are taught it is in school. We are taught it
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: is a representative democracy, a republic, right? Obviously, it's not
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: a direct democracy, but it's representative. You elect people.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: They go in. They debate. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: And if you did a study of our system of government,
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: by the way, like Princeton University did a while ago
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: and they concluded it was an oligarchy. I mean, they
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: just did an independent study and looked at what was
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: going on. You would, of course, go, oh, this isn't
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: the full story. And I think stuff like Kennedy really
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: exposes all of that, that there are people that operate
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: in the shadows and they get what they want. A
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: lot of them get what they want.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: Well, the fact that the Epstein thing has just sort
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: of died off.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: That's hilarious. I mean, we've got Andrew Tate. By the way,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: Andrew Tate, you're acting like Andrew Tate. And I'm not saying,
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: you know, but think of the political ramifications of the
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: Epstein story. What's a bigger story? Andrew Tate, human trafficking
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: in Romania. I'm sorry, Romania, but that's Tuesday. And you
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: can get hookers in the cabs in Romania. It just
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: is what it is. Like, the cab driver will say
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: to you, would you like... I mean, it's true. This
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: is all a fact. Now, Andrew Tate, I don't know
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: what he was doing. Nothing's been proven, but he's been
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: charged with this. But the Epstein thing was all proven.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: You have genuine victims coming forward, saying these things. Nobody's
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: been arrested in conjunction with it.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: And just the fact that he was whacked and the
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: cameras were off. Those fucking people that were the security
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: guards that day, they have to be shit in their pants. Well,
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: they probably got taken care of. You think so?
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: U.S.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: Virgin Islands District Attorney fired days after suing JPMorgan Chase
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: over Jeffrey Epstein ties. By the way, do you know
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: that Biden flew to the Virgin Islands for vacation and
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: then the woman was fired shortly after?
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: In fairness to Biden.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: It's a woman, right?
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: In fairness to Biden, he did not know where he
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: was flying.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: Well, people that were with him did. Yeah.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, interesting. I wonder why he would go there.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: But it's nice.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: It's pretty there.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: It's beautiful there. Yeah, it's pretty. Why wouldn't he go there?
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: Biden's not. I mean, he's just so old.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: He doesn't know.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: They just put him in it.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: How much do you think he's aware and how much
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: do you think he just falls apart on camera?
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: I think he's aware to a degree of what's going on.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: I just think he was selected. I mean, again, Bernie
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: was sandbagged. They were like, we're not going to have
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: him in.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: So who's the guy? And it's like Biden's been the guy.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: Biden's the guy that, you know, they just want somebody
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: they know. Right.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: What do you think happens in 2024?
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: DeSantis and he'll be fine. He'll be again.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: He wins.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: And he'll just Trump. Yeah.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: Really? Yeah.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: I think now Trump's the weakest he's ever been. Really?
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: Politically.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: Trump's very good. He's very good in the primaries though. So,
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, that would be interesting to watch, but I just,
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: I just feel like people are, it's not going to
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: have the same effect when a comic goes out and
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: you see it for the first time.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: It's amazing.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: If it's the same stuff, the third special, you go, okay. Like,
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: I think it's wearing thin, his appeal. I think DeSantis
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: is who the party wants. Well, DeSantis is going to
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: get the reasonable Republicans. He'll get the reasonable Republicans.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: He's not going to get the QAnon people, though.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but he won't get them, but they're not a
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: huge force.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: I met one in Aspen. Yeah. How interesting. This lady
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: came up to me.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: She sounds fun.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: She grabbed me in the line, and she was with
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: her daughter. She says, I love you, this older lady.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: She goes, I love you. You are out there speaking
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: the truth. She's saying all these things. I go, oh,
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: thank you. Thank you. I'm trying to be nice. Then
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: she goes, and Donald Trump is our real president. I go,
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: he's definitely not. I go, you can Google that. She said, oh,
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: my God, they got to you. That's right. Oh, they
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: got to me. Yeah. It was really funny. But her
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: daughters were super reasonable.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: And they were younger. And they were like, oh, mom's
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: kind of crazy. Well, it's funny.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: It's like the Shane Gillis joke, which is a great joke.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: He's like, you want a Fox News dad. You don't
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: want an MSNBC dad. Yes, yes, yes. But if you
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: have a Fox News mom, it's a bad mom. You know? Like,
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: it's a cute, you know. It's a great joke. and
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: it's the same thing that I say a lot about
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: like it's just the boomers have gotten to a point
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: now where they are this is politics has become a
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: sport for boomers where they are it's MSNBC or Fox
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: News it's right or left and a lot of them
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: are sitting there and they're sitting in their chair they've
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: got a heating blanket on they've got pills everywhere They're
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: drinking wine. Their brain has been melted. And they're just
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: trying to, they've got a few years left. Not all
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: of them. Some of them will live. But, you know,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: they're at the end, a lot of them. And they're
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: in their 70s or wherever they are. Some of them,
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: you know, my parents' age, their 70s. And they're basically like,
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: you know, trying to have a little fun on the
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: way out. And that's what I look at QAnon as.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: It's actually just fun.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: We should stop saying it's a threat. We should stop
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: treating it like it's a thing. It's just fun. People
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: want to have fun. And it is fun to believe
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: that Donald Trump's still the president and he's going to
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: lead a secret army of whatever. Christian people through tunnels
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: to kill everybody out like it's just fun. They just
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: want to have some fun That's really what it is.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: I think that's what I saw from the QAnon documentary. Yeah,
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: they're just having fun to the storm.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 2: It's like they were just obsessed with the idea that
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: they were a part of something just want to be
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: aware of and this is like There's nothing to do anymore.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: It was like a religion in a lot of ways
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: it gave their life meaning Yeah, because there's.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: Not much to do, you know There was this great
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: book called bowling alone written about like how?
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: American social institutions have fallen apart.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: Things like the Knights of Columbus or whatever, like social
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: clubs where people used to be a part of small
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: communities where like people would be invested, involved in their community.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: You don't do that anymore. So the social fabric's been
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: torn apart and people need to be a part of something.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: So what if it's the QAnon? Give them the fake
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: capital to storm. You know, like they just want to
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: be a part of something. It's just what they want
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: to be a part of.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: And that's the problem with a charismatic leader like Trump.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: That's right. He comes along and he tells them, you're
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: a part of this. We're together.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: It's cute until they start storming the Capitol.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: Right. But it's cute.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: If you watch a QAnon rally, it's kind of cute.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: It's fun. It's folksy.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: It's a Civil War reenactment. They're all nuts. They're all bored.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: What's wild is how many people were infiltrated.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: How many of those groups were infiltrated by intelligence agencies?
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: The FBI.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because they're bored.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: Well, that's the Whitmer case. Yeah.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: The FBI wants to come in. And how many of
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: her kidnappers? Twelve.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: Twelve out of 14.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: Were FBI agents.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: The two guys that weren't are doing big time. Yeah.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: They're doing long stretches. One of them was talking about it.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: And one of the things that he was talking about
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: was like, I never planned on doing anything. They coerced
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: me into all of this. Of course. They planned everything
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: and- This is what they do. This was not my idea.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: It was all fantasy. The Boston bomber.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: Boston bombers, it was weird too.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: There's something weird about that.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: The FBI goes, yeah, we don't know who they are.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: And then Russian intelligence goes, we told you who they were.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: Samantha Fuller, whose father, Graham Fuller, was a huge CIA guy.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: He was the architect of their Mideast policy. She married
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: this guy, Rusli Zarnaev. His nephews are the guys who
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: did the bombing. That's odd that a CIA family, this
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: woman married Rusli Tsarnaev, his nephews who were traveling back
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: and forth to Dagestan. And the FBI had no idea
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: who they were. Chuck Grassley, who's a senator, writes a
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: letter to the FBI going, why were you doing surveillance
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: the night that Sean Collier, the MIT police officer, was
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: killed in the neighborhood of the Tsarnaevs? Did you know
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: about them?
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: Did you– had you any relationship with them? It's odd.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: And then the FBI wrote back, we were in that–
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: we were in and around MIT because that was the
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: MIT police officer was killed the day after or the
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: night of the bombing where they supposedly killed the police
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: officer and.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: Then were trying to get away. And they robbed a 7-Eleven.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: They did all this stuff. Chuck Grassley is like, why
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: are you guys in that area? And they were like,
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: we were around MIT for a separate reason. The FBI
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: was there for a separate reason. This is also a
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: thing where they killed one of their friends. Like one
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: of their– they had a routine interview. at the guy's house,
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: they didn't make him come into an FBI office, and
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: one of their friends, this guy, ended up dead. Four
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: FBI agents in the room interviewing this guy. Supposedly he
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: went to go grab something and kill them and then
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: he ended up shot dead. So, yeah, the FBI is like,
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: it's weird. The FBI, the entrapment and the stuff they
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: get into is weird, it's odd.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: The entrapment thing is strange. It's strange. We've talked before
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: about the story about the 19-year-old guy, I think it
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: was in Dallas, who they talked him into using a
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: bomb and activating this bomb. It was like some fundamentalist.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: They talked him into doing this, but it was a
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: fake bomb they gave him. And then when he went
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: to activate this fake bomb, then they swooped in and
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: took him. They gave him the bomb. They told him
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: to do it. And he was young and gullible.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: It's crazy what they do. This is kind of what
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: they do. This is just the way they operate and
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: they don't want the way they operate to become public.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: So all these things that happen.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: But you got to think that also by doing that,
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: you can infiltrate legitimately dangerous organizations and you can stop
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: legitimately dangerous things from happening.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: I think that's some of what they do.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: That's probably the origins. Some of it, sure. The origins
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: of it.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: Some of it is, I think, good. I think the
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: problem you run into with that is it's so murky.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: And it's such a fine line when you're dealing with
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: mentally unhealthy people. And when you compromise somebody or you
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: recruit somebody as an informant, it's weighing on them. They're crazy.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: They don't know what's going on. They're anxious. They're like,
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: you know, I think they promised this guy. Supposedly they
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: might have, this guy, Tamerlan Zernive or whatever, like might
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: have been promised citizenship. They dangle carrots with people. They go,
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: we'll make you sit. We'll do this. We'll do that.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: We'll give you money. We'll do that.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: What's the big conspiracy theory about the Boston bombings?
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: The FBI again. These are just guys that they were
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: probably trying to set up and then the fucking bomb
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: went off. Meaning that. Again, it was just a similar
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: thing where it's like the FBI had either recruited them
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: or were in the process of trying to recruit them.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: And then, you know, if you come clean with that,
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: the American public goes, what the fuck are you doing? Right,
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: but what, the conspiracy theory, is it that the FBI-
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: Is covering up that they had prior relationships with the Tsarnaevs,
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: that they knew them, that there was any pre-existing relationship
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: with them at all.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 2: But there's not that they instigated this, right?
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: Well, what is instigated?
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: That's a big question.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 2: Right. You know, did they did they give.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: Them the bomb? We don't know.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: Right. But they I don't you know, but there are
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 2: instances where they do give people stuff. Right.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: Or they do allow people to purchase weapons.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: Like, did they instigate the Whitmer kidnapping? Supposedly, they probably did.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: They're putting this idea. The fact that there's 12 informants.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 2: There's 12 guys. Out of 14 guys.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: So when you talk about the Zhirnaevs, it is just
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: weird that, you know, number one, there's not a lot
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: known about the trial. They put special administrative measures on
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: the trial, which means that, like, nobody can really speak
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: out about what happened. It's all very tightly controlled. And
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: they said it's national security. But then you're like, but
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: you told us they weren't related to any terrorist. thing.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: So why, if they're not related to any overseas terrorist
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: cell and they act alone, what the hell is national security?
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: So again, you're just supposed to go like, they got them.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: They got them. They got them. You know, they treated
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: Meghan Markle horribly. Like that's, people like my aunt, they
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: just go, they go, stop with that. Go to Markle now.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: Markle's racist to Meghan Markle. It's like, It's just an
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: endless circus of nonsense. You're never supposed to get in
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: the weeds with anything. And if you do, you're meant
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: to look insane. Because some of the people in the
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: weeds are insane. Some of the people that will have
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: the conversation I'm having right now are crazy.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: Most. Most.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: So that becomes a problem. Your allies become people who
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: are fucking nuts. And they're like Chrissy Teigen has a
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: tunnel under that. And you go, okay, she doesn't. She does.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: She's selling fucking cookware. So, you know, you start looking
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: into things. Dude, when you start looking into serial killers,
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: it's crazy. Like, when you start looking at Son of
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: Sam and this idea that there might have been more
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: people doing that shit. Like, there's been books written about
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: the fact that David Berkowitz, like, maybe didn't do all
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: of those murders, but he was the guy that went down.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: Did you send me the article about they never caught
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: the guy who built the bomb?
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: I send you, yes, I send you a lot of
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: that stuff.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: But didn't you send me it like yesterday?
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: I sent you an article today where it was a
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: guy from the Boston Marathon bombing where he had gotten
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: into an altercation with his parents and they ran in
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: his house and I don't know, Ipswich, which is the
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: clam town or you know all these places. And they
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: found like a pressure cooker bomb and it was like
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: the type of bomb that would have been used in
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: the marathon.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: And they also proved that he knew Tamerlan Junaid.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: Like they had a, So it was like, is this
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: the guy that built the bomb? So who knows? Michelle McPhee,
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: who's a journalist in Boston, wrote the book, I think
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: it was called Maximum Harm, about the Boston Marathon. She
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: did a lot of great work on it. And she
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: wrote a book basically kind of ripping the official story apart,
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: going like, the feds are clearly covering up something here.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 2: Wow. You know, it's interesting.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: And she's a fun journalist. I think she punched a
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: cop or something.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: She did.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: She got a deal and punched a cop. But something good.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: Boston.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: Good. You know, something good.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: I trust people. I trust. you if you've done something
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: like that. Really? Yeah.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: If you've gotten drunk and, like, punched a cop, it's like, oh, okay.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? It's like I'm more inclined
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: to trust you in that scenario, you know?
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: That's the thing. It's like you just got to enjoy
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: life because it is, you know, you're never going to
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: figure it out.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 2: You're never going to figure it out.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: You'll never figure it out. You'll never know. You'll never
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: know what really went down. No.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: You know? And that's part of the purpose.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: That's part of the purpose because there's so much noise
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: and there's so much craziness. People get mad at me
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: and they're like, no, you're cynical and you tell people
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: not to care. It's like I'm not telling people not
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: to care. I'm just telling people like just allot a
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: certain amount of time to caring. It's a good diet.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: Don't consume too much.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 2: Most people aren't good at that, though, including with diets.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing with diet. You're supposed to take in
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: a little bit of conspiracy every now and then. QAnon's Denny's.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: QAnon's just banana, salted caramel, food that doesn't even make sense.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: QAnon is everyday fast food. Before we go, I wanted
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: to get you a Comanche gift for Christmas, and it's
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: very difficult. But just the idea that I wanted to
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: do it, I think you should register is really nice.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: I called the Comanche Museum in Oklahoma and they had like,
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: they're like, we have like towels and shirts. I'm like, no,
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: that's not what I want. I wanted like an artifact
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: and you cannot buy them.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 2: No, they don't want you to have them.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: I know that.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: If you dig up Arrowhead. They'll kill me. They believe
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 2: that it belongs to whatever nation.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: Other thing I was reading about, do I want to
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: curse myself to give you something? So I wanted to
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: get a Comanche thing. That's why I texted you. I'm like,
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: where are the Comanche? I want to text you about
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: the Comanche. It's impossible to get anything. Thanks anyway. But
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: I really wanted to.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 2: Thanks for the thought.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: It was a great thought. And it would have been
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: great if it happened.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: Have you ever read into them?
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: I want to read more about it. You said they
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: were like a nomadic and it was wild.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's right here. Empire of the Summer Moon is
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: probably the best book on it.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: Interesting.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 2: It's really good.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: Are they your favorites?
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: Well, they're the most fascinating to me because they were
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 2: the reason why people couldn't get across the plains and
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: into the west. They were warriors. Yeah. They would set
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: people up by giving them homesteads. Like, hey, would you
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: like all these acres in Oklahoma? Go there. And they'd
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: go there. They'd get slaughtered. And then that would be
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 2: a reason why they would bring in the army. Were
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 2: they the toughest tribe? Well, what they were were the
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 2: tribe that mastered– horse, like horse raising. So they were horsemen.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: They knew how to ride horses. They knew how to
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 2: raise horses. They had an abundance of horses and they
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 2: would ride on them and shoot arrows while they were riding.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 2: They mastered equestrianism. Amazing. Yeah. So they would like hang
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: onto the horse sideways and shoot from under the horse's neck.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 2: As they were riding. So they'd be riding and shoot
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 2: arrows while they were protected by the body of the horse.
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: Do you think the Avatar stuff, there's any... Obviously, Native
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: Americans are kind of pissed about it, but not all
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: of them.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: Well, I just sent you that article, which is... But
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: that's just everything.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 2: No matter what the fucking movie is, if it's Maverick
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 2: Tom Cruise's movie or if it's... Right. There's always going
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 2: to be someone that's upset about it. Yeah. This is
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 2: an outrage culture. Outrage is... I think it portrays- It's advertising.
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: It's everything. If it's based on the Native American, it
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: portrays them as really good people.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, they're the most noble. They're the most noble people.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, the people in Avatar are the Na'vi, are
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: the most noble. They're the most noble. You know what's
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: interesting that someone pointed out? In every movie, you have diversity.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 2: But in Avatar, all the humans are white because all
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 2: the humans are evil.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. I think the Navi are interesting people.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. The Navi are the most noble, but
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: I think they're also short-sighted because I think the sky
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: people are giving them really good opportunities and pathways to
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: money and profit. And I think the Navi are like, hey,
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: we're just going to be in the forest forever. It's like,
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: you're not. Let's get real. Like, they're ignoring tourism.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 2: They're ignoring a lot of things.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: I believe in progress. I believe in progress. No, I
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: literally do. And I don't think you can just like, oh,
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: I'm blue. And I think eventually it's like, enough. Enough.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: You know, people... when in 2009 when people went to
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 2: see Avatar they got Avatar depression because the way those
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 2: people lived was so resonated with them like the way
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 2: they want to be they want.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: To be spiritual go to Brazil go to Brazil and
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: get bit by a bug the size of a bird
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: it's all shit nature shit And the planet's a dump. No,
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: the reality of the planet's a dump. The only thing
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: good really is casinos and like inside things. That's why
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: people like Dubai because they build everything inside. Yeah, it's
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: like this nature shit. It's people like fetishize it. Go
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: out in it for a day. You're shot. You have
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: skin cancer.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: It's over.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: Do you have anything to promote? I mean, how hilarious
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: is this to ask you? Do you have anything.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 2: To promote, Joe? No, I don't promote anything. I've never
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: even promoted my show. I know.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: It's done well. Yeah, timdilloncomedy.com if you want to get
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: live tickets to the shows.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 2: How's touring been?
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: It's been fun. I mean, we're in clubs now to
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: build material.
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: And then we'll probably start some theaters in the fall.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: I like how you.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: Say we're, like you're a different person.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: Well, I have multiple personalities. No, it's me. But I just,
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: I was talking the royal way. It seemed bigger. It's like,
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it's been fun. We did Irvine Improv on
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: New Year's. They were fun. They were, it was great.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: Do you like doing New Year's? You know, every year
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: I go, I'm not going to do it. And every
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: year I do it.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: That's where I'm at.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: I just like to work because like every year I go,
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: I don't want to do it. But then like, you know,
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: you get an offer and they go, they want you
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: to do. And I'm like, I could entertain people over
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: New Year's Eve. And, you know, somebody said to me once,
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: they said, whether it's New Year's Eve or New Year's Day,
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: do something you want to do for the year.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: It was interesting.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: They were like, do something that whether if you're if
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: you're jogging, if you're this, if you're that, do something.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 2: Start the year the way you want to finish the year.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: So I love doing stand up. So I start and
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: maybe you start the year doing it, you know. The way,
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know. But why don't you work?
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: It just seems like too much of an amateur hour.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: It is an amateur hour.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: Everybody just wants to cheer. When's the countdown? See how
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 2: many people are angry at Don Lemon because he missed
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 2: the countdown?
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: Have you ever done New Year's? You probably have done it.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 2: Oh, I've done it multiple times. Yeah. Yeah, many, many times.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 2: I used to do New Year's shows every year. So
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: now you just take it off and spend it with
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 2: your family? Yeah.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 4: Soft.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 2: It was fun.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: It's a little soft. I enjoyed it. You're not worried
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: about money?
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 2: No, I'm kidding. I don't think that it's the same
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 2: kind of show. I think it's a fun show, and
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 2: I think that people like their noisemakers. It's crowd control.
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 2: They like those little horns that they get to blow.
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: We brought a woman on stage at the end to
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: just help us do the countdown. Well, the thing about L.A.
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: is we did a countdown at 8.30. It was totally fake.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: There were two shows, early countdowns. I'm like, this doesn't
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: even correspond with New York. It's a completely fake countdown
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: and everyone's in the mall. Why did you do a countdown?
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: Because they make you.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, I've done two shows before where I didn't do
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 2: a countdown.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: They're paying you money. I said to my agent, do
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: I have to do the countdown?
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 2: He's like, yeah. So that was in the contract.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: You have to do the countdown. It's part of the thing.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 2: You have to say, I'm not doing a countdown for
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: the early show. I used to do early shows. I
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 2: don't do a fucking countdown. I'm not doing the countdown.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 2: I've never done a fake countdown.
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: I think the audience kind of enjoyed the countdown.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: I don't think so.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know. They like it. They love it.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: They like making noise on cue.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah. They're like, yeah, it's New Year. It's a fun
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: thing to do. And next year, I'm like, this year,
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: I'm not doing it next year. I guarantee I'll do
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: it next year.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: People love being sort of like corralled like that. Like, yay,
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 2: I'm ready. Go.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 2: I may do it next year at the same talk
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 2: show taping. Oh, God.
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 2: Well, it's kind of the same thing. Like, all right,
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: everybody applaud. Yay. Yeah, let's go. applause signs are wild
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: no it's crazy that whole thing is wild it's such
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 2: orchestrated enjoyment of a show that's right like when you
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: see the person who's the producer waving at the crowd
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 2: doing that if you go to one of these things
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 2: people don't know there's signs that flash that say applause.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 2: Which is fucking crazy. And then there's a person who's doing.
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: This to the crowd, getting them to cheer.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: So when you see everybody cheering along, it's not organic.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: Well, because people don't know who half the people are anymore.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: Like when you go to see a taping of Fallon,
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: you have no idea who these people are. Somebody comes
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: out and it's like, give it up. And you're like, okay.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: They're like, you know.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 2: Do they have a say at all in who goes
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: on those shows, you think?
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: The audiences?
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like Seth Meyers. Does he have a say?
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: Interesting. I don't know. That's a whole area of comedy
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: I know very little about. Like, I don't know how
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: the guest selection process.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 2: Could you imagine, though, doing your show if somebody chose
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: your guests? Yeah. That to me sounds like hell.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: It would be crazy.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 2: Well, it sounds like a totally different thing. It's not
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 2: that you wouldn't get great guests. You probably get a
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 2: lot of really interesting conversations, but not being able, like
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: it's one of the beautiful things about podcasts. You get
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: to pick who you're talking to. Yeah.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: Well, it's like they wanted me for hot ones once
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: and then they go, we got someone else. And I
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, like, cause I was like very down
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: the list. Like everyone else had canceled. They couldn't get
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: me one. And then they go, well, you do hot ones.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 2: I go, yeah.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: And then they go, we got someone else.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, what was this? How long ago was this?
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: Probably like, I don't know, like a year ago or something.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: But it was just one of those things where you
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: realize like, you're like, okay, I got it. Because they'll
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: get a, you know, they get somebody for White Lotus.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 2: Would you do it now? Probably. You don't feel upset
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 2: that they canceled on you?
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: It was a little fucked up, but I'll still do it.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: I'll still do it. If it moves some tickets, if
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: it gets people to come see me or whatever.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 2: It probably will. You have a great hot ones.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So it was weird to me that they would
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: just dip out. They might've Googled me too. And they're like, wait, what? Like,
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: what are we nuts?
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 2: Like, and I get it.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: They want like, you know, listen, I'm, you know, I
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: just did an acting thing and I kind.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 2: Of did good.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: Um, In it, I had three lines. And during it,
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: the director said to me, he goes, I'm kind of
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: at my wit's end with you. I don't know why
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: you're doing the wrong thing. I was moving a book.
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: I had to pass someone a book. And the thing
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: with acting is everything has to be the same time, different.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: Like everything's got to be the same every time.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: And I wasn't doing it the same way. He's like,
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: you're doing, you're passing the book like differently. And I
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: don't know what's wrong with you.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, I'm sorry.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: Because I would get nervous.
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: So he goes, you're putting the pen on the book differently.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: He's like, sometimes your hand is over the book. He goes,
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: sometimes you take two fingers and push it like that.
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: He goes, what is he, you know, what's wrong with you?
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: But I think by the end, we did about 17 takes.
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: And by the end, I think it was good. By
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: the end, did you decide to never act again? Well,
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: by the end, he was like, you did a really
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: good job. And I was like, thank you so much.
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  Speaker 2: Did you believe him?
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  Speaker 1: I haven't been back to set since.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No, but I think I did good.
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  Speaker 2: It's fine. You know, I think I did well. Okay.
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 2: This acting stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I think I did great. I think I did great. And,
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: but he was very, he was, seemed upset. I can't
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  Speaker 1: wait to watch it now. Cause that's all I'm going
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: to think about. But I think I did really well.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: And I think during it, he just, the director seemed
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: very upset and the other actors seemed a little mad,
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: but they were nice. That's good.
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  Speaker 2: They were really nice.
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: But so I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see. We'll see.
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: CAA was like, that might open up some more doors.
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: I go, well, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Open up some more doors. Do you want to do that, though?
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 2: Would you want to be on a set for 16
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 2: hours a day for five months?
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: No, but five months is no. But if they said, like,
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: two weeks, I'm a two-week guy. And I come in
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: and I just get to be funny. I shouldn't carry
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: this unless, like, it's all about me and I'm involved
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: in the creative, you know? But, like, if they bring
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: me into a thing where they go, you can kind
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: of be like you and be funny. but that wasn't this,
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: this was like a different, but like, if I was like, yeah,
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: but you know, yeah, I wouldn't want to do it
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  Speaker 1: for five months, but like, you know, a couple of months,
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: like if, you know, it would depend on, you know,
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 1: if it was something where I felt like, I feel
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: good at podcasting. I feel good at standup because I
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: really worked at those things. I feel like I could
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: be funny, but, You know, it would have to be
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: a real specific thing.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the acting thing is, it's very specific in that,
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 2: you know, you're brought in for a very... very specific goal.
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 2: You're supposed to move this aspect of the plot. You're
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 2: supposed to be this guy that does this thing. I
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 2: think some people enjoy that kind of work where you
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 2: can kind of like lock into this character and then
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 2: you see how it affects the script and see how
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 2: it affects the movie and you get excited about it.
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, and I, I, I, I could be excited
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  Speaker 2: about that.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like, um, You're too free though. The problem
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: is like- The directors are less excited about me.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 2: You've gotten to this point where you can be so
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 2: free and then you've developed an audience by being this
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 2: free and then.
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: That's the problem.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I don't think, the good news is I don't
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: think anyone's really, like I'm not going to be a
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: marquee actor. Like if I ever did a movie, I'd
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: want it to be a cult classic, unwoke, very funny.
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: But look at Bert.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 2: Bert Kreischer, The Machine. He's just like, he released the
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 2: trailer on the podcast I did with him.
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But that's something like that I could.
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 2: Do because it's like his story. Yeah, that's what I'm
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 2: talking about you as a corrupt mortgage guy.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that something like that.
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah that you could do that I could do like
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 2: you could do your story that I could do Yeah, yeah,
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 2: I mean selling subprime mortgage.
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 1: It would have to be that it couldn't be I'm
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: not gonna come into like.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 2: A role But it would have to be like far
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 2: enough from 2008 where people aren't mad at you anymore.
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 2: I Right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah. I mean, I think I've done a great
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: job rehabilitating the image of subprime mortgage salespeople. That's one
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: of the things I believe I've done. I think I've
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: kind of, because the borrowers were criminals too, too also.
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: But did they know they were criminals or were they
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: just like give it an opportunity? Everybody wants money. If
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: you look at the word victim throughout history, you've done
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: a big history guy. Imagine explaining to someone in history
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 1: you were a victim and then they're going, what were
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 1: you a victim of? They go, somebody gave me 700 grand.
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 2: You go, what? I was a horrible victim of this
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 2: predatory scam.
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: What was the scam? Somebody gave me 700 grand. I
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: didn't have a job.
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 2: You were a victim?
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: No, everybody played the game, and then, you know, it's
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: musical chairs.
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 2: The chairs run out.
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: I lost a house. My house was foreclosed on. I
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: bought a house when I was 22. I had no money.
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 1: I bought a $ 600, 000 house in Long Island.
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 2: Did you really?
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: It sold five years later for $ 250, 000. It was not
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: a good investment. I would never sell someone something I
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: wouldn't sell myself. I was a cocaine addict, and I
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: wanted a house. I love houses. I hate... I don't
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: like homes. Homes are weird.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 2: What do you mean?
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: People that have families and love in the home.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 2: I prefer just a nice house to destroy.
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to have an investment course called Many Houses,
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: No Homes. How to Own and Abuse Real Estate. Yeah, no,
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: I mean... Yeah, and then I lost a house too,
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: and I bounced back. I moved into some dump, and
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: I did stand-up for eight years.
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 2: You're lucky you're funny.
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: And the best years of my life were spent doing
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: stand-up and eating pizza in New York, and then I
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: came and I did your show, and things were okay.
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: So it's going to be fine. Thank you very much.
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: I appreciate it, brother.
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 2: I appreciate you. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Of course.