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- 0:01Welcome to today's episode of the e-commerce revolution podcast
- 0:04where we dive into
- 0:05the dynamic world of e-commerce and uncover the tools and
- 0:08tactics that empower
- 0:09SPEAKER_00: today's emerging entrepreneurs.
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- 0:28SPEAKER_00: Let's get things started.
- 0:36SPEAKER_00: Welcome, everybody.
- 0:37SPEAKER_00: We have a great topic for you today.
- 0:39SPEAKER_00: Today,
- 0:40we're learning all about e-commerce marketplaces and how you
- 0:44can leverage them in
- 0:45SPEAKER_00: your e-commerce strategy.
- 0:47SPEAKER_00: E-commerce marketplaces have been around for a long time.
- 0:50SPEAKER_00: That is in internet years, of course.
- 0:52SPEAKER_00: The first online e-commerce marketplace is widely considered to be eBay,
- 0:57SPEAKER_00: which launched in 1995,
- 0:59SPEAKER_00: originally under the name AuctionWeb,
- 1:02SPEAKER_00: for any of you who want to look that up.
- 1:04SPEAKER_00: And Amazon,
- 1:05SPEAKER_00: which originally just started out as an online retailer selling books,
- 1:09allowed third-party sellers to start selling products on its
- 1:12platform in 2000.
- 1:15SPEAKER_00: From Amazon to Etsy to niche marketplaces you may not have even heard of,
- 1:20SPEAKER_00: marketplaces are as hot as ever.
- 1:22SPEAKER_00: In some ways,
- 1:23they are one of the best ways for an emerging e-commerce
- 1:26entrepreneur to launch a brand.
- 1:28SPEAKER_00: Think about it,
- 1:29SPEAKER_00: no major upfront costs,
- 1:31SPEAKER_00: and in most cases,
- 1:32SPEAKER_00: a built-in audience to sell your products to,
- 1:34SPEAKER_00: which can reduce your marketing costs.
- 1:37SPEAKER_00: I realize I'm simplifying things a bit, but you get the point.
- 1:41SPEAKER_00: Our guest today is a bonafide expert on the topic of marketplaces,
- 1:45SPEAKER_00: from making and selling hair bows at local farmer's markets in 2012,
- 1:48SPEAKER_00: to transitioning to sell on Amazon Marketplace,
- 1:53SPEAKER_00: to eventually recognizing the need to create a local online marketplace
- 1:58SPEAKER_00: And launching her own platform,
- 2:00SPEAKER_00: our guest has touched so many sides of the Marketplace business model.
- 2:05SPEAKER_00: So,
- 2:06SPEAKER_00: without any further ado,
- 2:07SPEAKER_00: please welcome Sherry Edelson,
- 2:09SPEAKER_00: the CEO of Member Marketplace to the Ecommerce Revolution podcast.
- 2:13SPEAKER_00: Sherry, great to have you here today.
- 2:16SPEAKER_01: Thanks, Amine.
- 2:17SPEAKER_01: Good to see you again.
- 2:17SPEAKER_00: Yes, of course, of course.
- 2:19SPEAKER_00: Now,
- 2:20SPEAKER_00: something you gave us in your intake notes,
- 2:22which I've heard this story because I've been on webinars with
- 2:26you in the past,
- 2:28SPEAKER_00: was a snowy day in Iowa.
- 2:30Tell me about that snowy day in Iowa at that local farmer's
- 2:33market that kind of
- 2:34SPEAKER_00: opened your eyes to the need of building an online marketplace platform.
- 2:40SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 2:41So if you've been to Iowa in the winter,
- 2:44you never know what you're going to get.
- 2:45SPEAKER_01: Sometimes it's 70 degrees.
- 2:47SPEAKER_01: And then the next day, it is a blistery winter day.
- 2:50SPEAKER_01: You can't get out of your driveway.
- 2:52SPEAKER_01: And I had done a craft fair, signed up for a craft fair at the school.
- 2:57SPEAKER_01: So it's about three blocks away from me.
- 2:58SPEAKER_01: And they wanted to have a fair for kids to be able to buy a
- 3:04SPEAKER_01: gifts for their siblings for Christmas.
- 3:05SPEAKER_01: So I had a bunch of product left over from Summer Farmer's Market.
- 3:08I thought this was a good way to get rid of like inventory that
- 3:10didn't sell.
- 3:11SPEAKER_01: Everything had to be five or $10.
- 3:14SPEAKER_01: And I wouldn't set up the night before, got my booth ready.
- 3:17SPEAKER_01: And then it snowed a whole bunch that night.
- 3:20SPEAKER_01: And like, you couldn't get out of your driveway kind of snow.
- 3:23SPEAKER_01: So I had,
- 3:24SPEAKER_01: I took my minivan and I bustled through the three blocks because like,
- 3:27SPEAKER_01: it's not that far.
- 3:29SPEAKER_01: Got to the school,
- 3:32SPEAKER_01: and waited for customers to come through.
- 3:34And it took an hour before we saw somebody walk through the
- 3:37door and it came for
- 3:39SPEAKER_01: one of the other vendors.
- 3:40SPEAKER_01: And then within the next hour,
- 3:41SPEAKER_01: and literally,
- 3:42I think that was the only person that had come through the
- 3:44whole entire piece.
- 3:45SPEAKER_01: And it was just somebody who was affiliated with another vendor there.
- 3:49SPEAKER_01: And so it was about two hours
- 3:50two three hours into that four hour market i think it's four
- 3:52hours i called my
- 3:53husband and i said put the boots on the kids we have four they
- 3:57were little at the
- 3:57time and i said i don't care if they're still in their jammies
- 3:59just bring them over
- 4:00to this market we're going to shop from these businesses
- 4:02because i have been to
- 4:05many a farmer's market craft fair something where you're there
- 4:08and you're just
- 4:09SPEAKER_01: waiting around all day for customers to come and that you're
- 4:13SPEAKER_01: built a lot in inventory,
- 4:15SPEAKER_01: prepared ahead of time,
- 4:16SPEAKER_01: you bought extra product,
- 4:17SPEAKER_01: maybe you stayed up a light night making or baking things.
- 4:21SPEAKER_01: And then just to have nothing happen, it's just such a disappointment.
- 4:24SPEAKER_01: You're wasting the time with your family,
- 4:25SPEAKER_01: all of the stuff that you might not be able to reuse again.
- 4:27And so we went over there and bought Christmas gifts that year
- 4:30for all of our family.
- 4:32SPEAKER_01: This is for this grandma, this is for this grandma, this is for whoever.
- 4:35SPEAKER_01: And got to know the businesses as we were talking to them,
- 4:38SPEAKER_01: like,
- 4:38SPEAKER_01: oh my gosh,
- 4:38SPEAKER_01: listen to this product,
- 4:39SPEAKER_01: listen to their story about how they created this.
- 4:41SPEAKER_01: And it was just a...
- 4:43It felt really good to be able to shop from these businesses to
- 4:45support them.
- 4:46But then we thought there's got to be a better way than just
- 4:49relying on these one
- 4:50day craft fairs in these farmers markets where lightning would
- 4:52hit my tent before
- 4:53SPEAKER_01: and a product,
- 4:55SPEAKER_01: you know,
- 4:55SPEAKER_01: grain ruined your product.
- 4:56SPEAKER_01: And so we left there.
- 4:57We green out if there was a way that we could help these craft businesses.
- 5:02SPEAKER_01: sell online.
- 5:03SPEAKER_01: And so I was already selling online through my own website.
- 5:05SPEAKER_01: My husband was a web developer.
- 5:06SPEAKER_01: He had built it for me in my very first month or two.
- 5:10SPEAKER_01: And then I was dabbled in some like Etsy and some of those,
- 5:13SPEAKER_01: and then also was selling pretty well on Amazon,
- 5:15SPEAKER_01: had other avenues.
- 5:16SPEAKER_01: So we thought, can we help these businesses learn how to sell online?
- 5:18SPEAKER_01: Again, this was it.
- 5:21SPEAKER_01: Late 2016, early 2017, when we were first trying to help businesses.
- 5:24SPEAKER_01: So before pandemic,
- 5:25SPEAKER_01: before businesses eventually realized they needed to get online,
- 5:29we were teaching them what goes into a product description and
- 5:32what is SEO and how
- 5:33to take product photos and all of those things and trying to
- 5:36help these small local
- 5:37businesses get online together and make it easy to shop and
- 5:40discover who exists
- 5:41SPEAKER_01: already in your own community.
- 5:43SPEAKER_00: I love that story.
- 5:43SPEAKER_00: Each time you tell it,
- 5:45SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 5:45SPEAKER_00: I kind of think about,
- 5:46SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 5:46what it's like to be an entrepreneur and you really do anything
- 5:49you can to help not only,
- 5:52SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 5:52SPEAKER_00: yourself,
- 5:53SPEAKER_00: but those who are,
- 5:54SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 5:55SPEAKER_00: in your community and those who are around you,
- 5:57SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 5:57SPEAKER_00: it's just a very helping situation because you want to win,
- 6:00SPEAKER_00: right?
- 6:00SPEAKER_00: You want to get to the finish line.
- 6:03SPEAKER_00: How many marketplaces, because it started out with one in Iowa.
- 6:07SPEAKER_00: Now, how many marketplaces are there around the country?
- 6:10SPEAKER_01: We started out with one just here in our own town.
- 6:15SPEAKER_01: And then we thought, gosh, we could do this in other communities.
- 6:18SPEAKER_01: So at the time, we didn't know what a startup was.
- 6:21SPEAKER_01: grow something.
- 6:21SPEAKER_01: We're just trying to help these businesses in our community.
- 6:23And then there was a startup accelerator that we ended up
- 6:26joining and started
- 6:28working with like chambers of commerce and main streets and
- 6:30eventually SBDCs.
- 6:32SPEAKER_01: Um,
- 6:33SPEAKER_01: so we've operated over,
- 6:34SPEAKER_01: I think 50 marketplaces across the U S.
- 6:36So some were just pandemic wide and they happened just during
- 6:39that timeframe as we
- 6:39SPEAKER_01: were helping certain businesses get online.
- 6:41SPEAKER_01: Some have continued,
- 6:42SPEAKER_01: you know,
- 6:43SPEAKER_01: since that time,
- 6:43we have some that have started in our very first year that are
- 6:46still going now.
- 6:47SPEAKER_01: So, um,
- 6:49really trying to help whichever communities in the partner that
- 6:51we're looking for
- 6:52SPEAKER_01: to help their small businesses get online together.
- 6:54And if I'm an e-commerce entrepreneur and I want to get on one
- 6:57of your marketplace platforms,
- 6:59SPEAKER_00: how do I do it?
- 7:00SPEAKER_00: Where do I go?
- 7:01SPEAKER_01: So go to Member Marketplace, Inc.
- 7:03SPEAKER_01: On there, we have listed our e-commerce sites, what communities we're in.
- 7:07SPEAKER_01: Right now, you have to belong to whichever community you're in.
- 7:10SPEAKER_01: So if we're in North Dakota,
- 7:12SPEAKER_01: you can go and join Shop North Dakota,
- 7:13but you also will become a member of the SBDC at that time or a
- 7:16client of the SBDC.
- 7:17SPEAKER_01: We're also working on a new one, though, where...
- 7:20SPEAKER_01: Sometimes we don't want to wait for a partner in that community.
- 7:21SPEAKER_01: Can we do a local one?
- 7:24SPEAKER_01: So coming soon,
- 7:25SPEAKER_01: there will be a direct to business one,
- 7:27SPEAKER_01: too,
- 7:27that maybe doesn't have to rely on a partner in that community
- 7:29before we can start
- 7:30SPEAKER_01: helping those businesses.
- 7:32SPEAKER_01: So next month or so, you'll see on that.
- 7:35SPEAKER_00: That's fantastic.
- 7:35SPEAKER_00: Well, we'll definitely put the link to Member Marketplace, Inc.
- 7:38SPEAKER_00: in the show notes so everybody who's interested can click on it.
- 7:43So are you ready to dive into the world of e-commerce
- 7:45marketplaces and talk about
- 7:47the details and help some of these emerging e-commerce
- 7:50entrepreneurs that are part
- 7:50SPEAKER_00: of our community really understand what it is?
- 7:54SPEAKER_00: Well, let's start with that, first of all.
- 7:57SPEAKER_00: What is a true definition of a marketplace?
- 8:02SPEAKER_01: Oh, gosh.
- 8:03I use the farmer's market example because I think it's a
- 8:06tangible version and
- 8:07SPEAKER_01: that's my background and my history.
- 8:08SPEAKER_01: But if you think about a farmer's market,
- 8:11SPEAKER_01: you have multiple different businesses,
- 8:13SPEAKER_01: tons of different types.
- 8:14SPEAKER_01: You might have a Haribo seller,
- 8:15SPEAKER_01: you might have vegetables,
- 8:16SPEAKER_01: you might have a craft maker,
- 8:18SPEAKER_01: beer,
- 8:18SPEAKER_01: whoever are coming down and descending on that market from 7 a.m.
- 8:22SPEAKER_01: till noon.
- 8:23And customers are coming because they can come and shop from
- 8:26multiple different
- 8:26SPEAKER_01: businesses at one time,
- 8:27SPEAKER_01: one location and leave with all of their goods in that same day.
- 8:30SPEAKER_01: And so an e-commerce marketplace is just that plaza online 24 seven,
- 8:36SPEAKER_01: where it's whatever the platform is,
- 8:38SPEAKER_01: whether they're all uniquely identified,
- 8:40SPEAKER_01: maybe it's a local version like we're running,
- 8:42SPEAKER_01: maybe it's Amazon or Etsy or eBay,
- 8:45SPEAKER_01: some of these other larger marketplaces.
- 8:47SPEAKER_01: Poshmark of these individual ones,
- 8:48SPEAKER_01: but it's one platform to be able to go shop,
- 8:51discover and buy for multiple different businesses with one car
- 8:54checkout and really
- 8:55SPEAKER_01: provide that ease of use for the end consumer.
- 8:58SPEAKER_01: They don't have to go to multiple different websites to shop.
- 9:01SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's interesting.
- 9:01SPEAKER_00: I mean,
- 9:02the word marketplace tends to get thrown around a lot as
- 9:05different things,
- 9:06SPEAKER_00: but that's a perfect definition of what it is.
- 9:09SPEAKER_00: Why do you think marketplaces like Amazon and Etsy,
- 9:12SPEAKER_00: and I mentioned that there's an ease of launch,
- 9:15SPEAKER_00: I guess,
- 9:16SPEAKER_00: in some ways.
- 9:16SPEAKER_00: In your opinion, what makes them so popular?
- 9:19SPEAKER_00: It's been so long since they've been around.
- 9:22SPEAKER_00: What makes them still so popular?
- 9:25SPEAKER_01: It's the consumer convenience, I think.
- 9:29SPEAKER_01: It's a lot of effort,
- 9:30SPEAKER_01: whether you're going into one individual store,
- 9:32SPEAKER_01: physical,
- 9:33SPEAKER_01: and then walking down your main street.
- 9:34Think how many times you have to go through that physical store
- 9:37and you're shopping
- 9:37around and you're looking through there and you find one or two
- 9:40goods there.
- 9:40SPEAKER_01: Then you walk to the next store,
- 9:41SPEAKER_01: you find two or three goods,
- 9:43SPEAKER_01: check out again,
- 9:44SPEAKER_01: walk to the next store.
- 9:44SPEAKER_01: That's a lot of effort.
- 9:45SPEAKER_01: And then the same token,
- 9:47SPEAKER_01: even if you're at home and online,
- 9:48SPEAKER_01: doing that from multiple different businesses,
- 9:50SPEAKER_01: websites,
- 9:51SPEAKER_01: that's still a lot of effort.
- 9:53SPEAKER_01: And especially in our side,
- 9:55SPEAKER_01: as we talk about shopping and supporting local businesses,
- 9:57a lot of times they're putting the onus back on the consumer to
- 10:00go and shop local
- 10:01SPEAKER_01: and support local.
- 10:02But it's still difficult to do because there's so many
- 10:04different websites and
- 10:05there's so many different physical stores and you don't know
- 10:07what they have ahead
- 10:08SPEAKER_01: of time.
- 10:08SPEAKER_01: So how do we help make it even easier for consumers?
- 10:10SPEAKER_01: That's what marketplaces offer.
- 10:12SPEAKER_01: One site,
- 10:13browse from a larger product expansion that you maybe wouldn't
- 10:16have if you're going
- 10:17SPEAKER_01: to one physical or one website and buy easier with more convenience.
- 10:22SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 10:23SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's interesting.
- 10:25SPEAKER_00: The big ones, right?
- 10:27SPEAKER_00: The Amazons, the Etsys, the Ebays, some of those out there.
- 10:30SPEAKER_00: But I mentioned a lot of these niche marketplaces,
- 10:33SPEAKER_00: such as what your approach is considered a niche,
- 10:36SPEAKER_00: and there are many other niche.
- 10:37SPEAKER_00: Why do you think that's happening?
- 10:39SPEAKER_00: Is it a backlash against the big players out there?
- 10:44SPEAKER_00: Is it just because that's just the...
- 10:46SPEAKER_00: how things happen.
- 10:49SPEAKER_00: They go from big to niching down a little bit.
- 10:52SPEAKER_00: What's your opinion on that?
- 10:54SPEAKER_01: I think there's a little bit of all of that.
- 10:57So I think there is a little bit of a backlash against the
- 11:00larger players.
- 11:01SPEAKER_01: We just as consumers in general,
- 11:03SPEAKER_01: or even small businesses,
- 11:05SPEAKER_01: we realize that the bigger something gets,
- 11:07SPEAKER_01: the more it's taking commissions out of yours,
- 11:09SPEAKER_01: the more you're getting diluted in your sales,
- 11:10SPEAKER_01: the harder it is to find your products.
- 11:13And then consumers,
- 11:14too,
- 11:14is that you don't always feel this intrinsic good.
- 11:18Sometimes when you're shopping on Amazon,
- 11:20you do it because it's out of need.
- 11:21But it's like,
- 11:21is it making you feel warm and fuzzy on the inside when you're
- 11:24doing it?
- 11:24SPEAKER_01: No, but you need whatever you want by Tuesday versus Saturday.
- 11:29um and some of these niche marketplaces are really identifying
- 11:32with the customer so
- 11:33you'll see sustainable product marketplaces where they're all
- 11:35built around the
- 11:36sustainability of product and that's important to you that's a
- 11:39marketplace you
- 11:39might choose to go and shop and discover your products if it's
- 11:42important to you to
- 11:43SPEAKER_01: to support local communities and the businesses that are helping to
- 11:46SPEAKER_01: grow and keep your towns unique and vibrant,
- 11:48SPEAKER_01: then you might choose to shop on a local marketplace.
- 11:50If you really want vegan items and you're looking for vegan
- 11:56baked goods or whatever
- 11:57SPEAKER_01: the process,
- 11:58you might go to a vegan baked goods marketplace where you can
- 12:00still have a wider
- 12:02SPEAKER_01: variety of offerings,
- 12:03but it's really speaking to who that customer is and it's
- 12:05identifying with that
- 12:06SPEAKER_01: customer a little bit more.
- 12:07SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, it's fascinating.
- 12:09SPEAKER_00: And I mean, I love it.
- 12:11And I think there's,
- 12:12I like to call it the love-hate relationship with Amazon.
- 12:15You love it as a consumer because you can have it here by Tuesday,
- 12:19as you mentioned.
- 12:20SPEAKER_00: But as an e-commerce entrepreneur,
- 12:23there are definitely some frustrating elements because it is so
- 12:25big and so rigid.
- 12:27Sometimes looking to these niche marketplaces and also finding
- 12:30your ideal customer
- 12:32SPEAKER_00: in those niche marketplaces is definitely an area.
- 12:34SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 12:36So if I'm an e-commerce entrepreneur and somebody who's just
- 12:39starting out,
- 12:40SPEAKER_00: I'm emerging,
- 12:41SPEAKER_00: I'm ready to build out my launch strategy.
- 12:44What kind of factors in this day and age should I consider when
- 12:48getting myself set
- 12:49SPEAKER_00: up on a marketplace?
- 12:50SPEAKER_00: And we won't even say any specific marketplace.
- 12:53SPEAKER_00: Is there a game plan that you can put in place today?
- 12:56SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 12:58SPEAKER_01: So if we're not talking about a predictor marketplace,
- 13:00SPEAKER_01: but I would say in general,
- 13:01SPEAKER_01: you can have a different customer base for the most part,
- 13:05SPEAKER_01: who they're speaking to and what kind of products you have.
- 13:08SPEAKER_01: So if you have,
- 13:09SPEAKER_01: we have even on the one we've worked on together,
- 13:11SPEAKER_01: but other of our marketplaces,
- 13:12SPEAKER_01: we have a lot of vintage product-based businesses.
- 13:15SPEAKER_01: You might work better on eBay.
- 13:17SPEAKER_01: If you've got handcrafted items,
- 13:19SPEAKER_01: you might work better on Etsy or some of these local crafted ones.
- 13:22SPEAKER_01: If you're looking to sell some products,
- 13:25old apparel that you used to wear maybe poshmark or something
- 13:28is good for you so
- 13:28just really identifying who's going to buy your products what
- 13:30marketplace to start
- 13:31on if you've never done it before but then some of the ins and
- 13:34outs like what does
- 13:35the pricing strategy look like how much does it cost for you to
- 13:38get set up some of
- 13:39these have an upfront fee some have an every item listing fee
- 13:42so how much is it
- 13:43SPEAKER_01: going to cost you to get initially set up as well um
- 13:48SPEAKER_01: And then from there, it is just devising what products you want to sell.
- 13:53SPEAKER_01: We recommend on our side,
- 13:54SPEAKER_01: sometimes you work with a brand new business,
- 13:57SPEAKER_01: what items do you have the most inventory of?
- 13:58If you've got one product and one item,
- 14:00it takes you a really long time to describe it.
- 14:01SPEAKER_01: And it's got a very niche customer base.
- 14:04are you going to have to wait for the seo to to come in and
- 14:06somebody to find your
- 14:07particular product to go to that marketplace then to go find it
- 14:10or do you have you
- 14:12know 30 or more of a particular item that has a good customer
- 14:15base or you know that
- 14:16there's a target customer that's looking for it um i would say
- 14:19start with one you
- 14:19have more inventory of and higher customer base versus this
- 14:21more niche product and
- 14:23then there's just some basics and that's really where our
- 14:25platform where we go
- 14:27SPEAKER_01: through it's
- 14:28SPEAKER_01: establishing a base because whatever you learn through our platform,
- 14:31SPEAKER_01: you can take and apply to your own web store.
- 14:33SPEAKER_01: Should you be able to do that to another marketplace?
- 14:35SPEAKER_01: It's the basics on your product title,
- 14:38your product photography,
- 14:39your description,
- 14:41picking a category and your price.
- 14:42Like that's the,
- 14:43that's the basics of the meat and potatoes that you really need
- 14:46to understand.
- 14:46SPEAKER_01: And then it's like building those out a little bit more.
- 14:48SPEAKER_01: So your title, why is that important?
- 14:50SPEAKER_01: It's, it's one of the factors that impacts SEO.
- 14:52SPEAKER_01: And when somebody is looking for that,
- 14:54SPEAKER_01: even when they're in the marketplace and they see your title,
- 14:56does it make them want to click on it is identify with the
- 14:58product itself.
- 14:59SPEAKER_01: So I always hate an example.
- 15:01SPEAKER_01: It's like a blue shirt, like,
- 15:04SPEAKER_01: There's tons of blue shirts out there.
- 15:05SPEAKER_01: What kind of blue shirt is it?
- 15:06Is it a women's blouse that's blue and white striped with three
- 15:09buttons and a tie?
- 15:10SPEAKER_01: Is it just getting more descriptive in your title,
- 15:12helping people understand what it is that goes along with that
- 15:15photo that they'll
- 15:16SPEAKER_01: see right away?
- 15:18SPEAKER_01: Building out your...
- 15:20product description having maybe a short paragraph some bullet
- 15:23points you can go
- 15:24into a bigger description further we talk about if you need to
- 15:27making sure it's in
- 15:28the right category so somebody's looking for shirts it's in the
- 15:31women's apparel
- 15:31shirt category versus you know some other one um and then that
- 15:35price making sure
- 15:36your price is kind of right based on the other products that
- 15:38are out there and
- 15:39SPEAKER_01: where yours fits in that that realm
- 15:41SPEAKER_00: Yeah, in many ways, there's lots of crossover.
- 15:45I would assume you would agree on just what you do on your own
- 15:48online store.
- 15:50SPEAKER_00: But then there are these other things that you have to pay attention.
- 15:52SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of distraction on these marketplaces when you're on there.
- 15:55SPEAKER_00: You're there for a product,
- 15:56SPEAKER_00: but you've got things flying at you on the right-hand side,
- 15:59SPEAKER_00: left-hand side,
- 16:00SPEAKER_00: up at the top,
- 16:01SPEAKER_00: really trying to get you to these other parts of the platform.
- 16:04SPEAKER_00: And if you can keep people focused,
- 16:07SPEAKER_00: I think we share this common notion that photography really does matter.
- 16:13SPEAKER_00: I know Amazon, for example, puts a lot of pressure on photography.
- 16:17They don't just let you come on and put something,
- 16:20whatever you want up there.
- 16:21SPEAKER_00: That first image has to be the white background.
- 16:24SPEAKER_00: It's so important.
- 16:25SPEAKER_00: In this day and age, with a cell phone, you can take a very good picture.
- 16:31SPEAKER_00: If you're not an editing expert, hire a very good editor online.
- 16:36SPEAKER_00: And get something out there.
- 16:38SPEAKER_00: So that's good.
- 16:39SPEAKER_00: Really focusing in on those things you have control over, right?
- 16:42SPEAKER_00: Really is essentially what you're saying.
- 16:44SPEAKER_00: Now,
- 16:45something that always comes up when I work with e-commerce
- 16:49entrepreneurs is when
- 16:52SPEAKER_00: they're launching their own store,
- 16:54SPEAKER_00: should I expect a sale?
- 16:55SPEAKER_00: How quickly am I going to make money?
- 16:58SPEAKER_00: On a marketplace, on average, what would you say?
- 17:02Should they expect sales right away or should they expect this
- 17:06to build it and they
- 17:06will not come because they're going to have to put in that
- 17:08extra effort of
- 17:09SPEAKER_00: marketing and pushing that product out there on social,
- 17:14SPEAKER_00: things like that?
- 17:15SPEAKER_00: What's your thought on that?
- 17:17SPEAKER_01: I think it's really a mix of both.
- 17:18SPEAKER_01: And then it also depends on the platform.
- 17:20SPEAKER_01: Um, maybe I'll just give a few examples.
- 17:24I think Amazon,
- 17:25when I first got on Amazon,
- 17:27I think I had my first sale the next,
- 17:29day and i was like oh this is amazing look at this and it was a
- 17:33it was a girl's
- 17:34cheer hair bow um well i think i don't remember which one it
- 17:37was but my my cheer
- 17:38hair bows at that time they were always like school colors so
- 17:41people were looking
- 17:42for a school color hair bow so whether it's red and white
- 17:44stripes red and white paw
- 17:46print so if there's a school that had a paw print logo and was
- 17:49also red and white
- 17:49that spoke to them um trademark stuff it'll go into maybe later
- 17:54but that's a whole
- 17:54SPEAKER_01: other ball game and people need to be aware of
- 17:58But just maybe really having a product that identified with a
- 18:00certain target market.
- 18:02SPEAKER_01: And so whether you have a product that identifies with nurses or whoever,
- 18:05SPEAKER_01: like if people are looking for that item and your item speaks to them,
- 18:09the image goes well and there's not a ton of overwhelming
- 18:13traffic that's already
- 18:14SPEAKER_01: going to it,
- 18:14SPEAKER_01: you can probably expect a sale pretty soon on a larger marketplace.
- 18:19And it's important to understand your pricing and what you'll
- 18:22get at the end of
- 18:22SPEAKER_01: that because that's a whole separate one.
- 18:25Some of our marketplaces that we're working on are newer and
- 18:28we're working with
- 18:28SPEAKER_01: newer entrepreneurs who are just getting online for the first time.
- 18:31And we're trying to teach everybody at the same time and get
- 18:33them up and going.
- 18:34SPEAKER_01: And so our marketplaces.
- 18:36SPEAKER_01: are typically either free or very low cost to businesses.
- 18:39And so there's not as much marketing pushed into them because
- 18:41we kind of work with
- 18:42SPEAKER_01: our partners and what they're doing.
- 18:43SPEAKER_01: And we were looking for that marketplace effect.
- 18:46So every business going out and communicating with their
- 18:48consumers as well and saying,
- 18:49SPEAKER_01: hey,
- 18:49I'm online through this platform and kind of bringing in that
- 18:52shared aspect into there.
- 18:55SPEAKER_01: So if everybody's helping to market and bring back consumers, then
- 18:58SPEAKER_01: ideally that customer base builds up over time on our marketplaces.
- 19:03SPEAKER_01: But it depends if you currently have customers or if you don't.
- 19:06SPEAKER_01: So if you don't have any customers yet,
- 19:07SPEAKER_01: you're not even really sure who your target market is,
- 19:09SPEAKER_01: how your product or description is speaking to consumers.
- 19:13SPEAKER_01: That's where we start with.
- 19:14SPEAKER_01: It's like, that's your first goal.
- 19:15SPEAKER_01: It's figuring out
- 19:16SPEAKER_01: Who wants your product?
- 19:17SPEAKER_01: Because that's going to guide how you title your products.
- 19:20SPEAKER_01: Going to title your photo or even the secondary photos.
- 19:23SPEAKER_01: If your target customers see themselves in those photos,
- 19:27SPEAKER_01: in the description,
- 19:27SPEAKER_01: does it help them understand that?
- 19:29And then are we waiting for SEO to naturally build up and bring
- 19:32people back to that product?
- 19:33Are you going out and helping to do any promotion through
- 19:36social media or your own self?
- 19:37SPEAKER_01: Or if the site has...
- 19:39SPEAKER_01: sponsored products or some of those too.
- 19:41SPEAKER_01: Can you help to get additional visibility in there?
- 19:44I know I got my first sales through Amazon,
- 19:45but they were kind of like teetering here and there.
- 19:48SPEAKER_01: Maybe a sale here, a sale here.
- 19:49SPEAKER_01: And it was a few sales a week.
- 19:52SPEAKER_01: I had to eventually pay to get my products seen by consumers.
- 19:55SPEAKER_01: So everybody else is sponsoring their products.
- 19:57SPEAKER_01: And when everybody else starts to do that,
- 19:59you have to pay to get your product sponsors to get them pulled
- 20:02up higher in their
- 20:02search results because people are only going to go so far a lot
- 20:05of times in the
- 20:06SPEAKER_01: tabs to find what they want.
- 20:07SPEAKER_01: So
- 20:07SPEAKER_01: just understanding your customer where they're at.
- 20:11And if you pay to,
- 20:13to get,
- 20:14or you're going to do some of that marketing on your own side.
- 20:16SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
- 20:17I mean,
- 20:17it's an interesting concept there is that you really need to be
- 20:21involved too.
- 20:22And I think the marketplace wants you to be involved out there pushing,
- 20:25right?
- 20:26SPEAKER_00: Getting other people, pulling people back in.
- 20:29But speaking of advertising,
- 20:33all the big ones have launched ad platforms on there.
- 20:36And I think ad platforms account for a huge portion of their
- 20:40business as well.
- 20:40So now you're running ads to try to get traffic to your product
- 20:45on their platform.
- 20:47SPEAKER_00: And they're taking a commission,
- 20:48SPEAKER_00: which I think maybe leads to some animosity maybe in that side of things.
- 20:53SPEAKER_00: But it is part of a natural marketing game plan.
- 20:58SPEAKER_00: Advertising, however you do, it has to be done.
- 21:01I think it's safe to say,
- 21:03don't just put up a product these days and expect it to sell.
- 21:06SPEAKER_00: You need to be either involved.
- 21:08SPEAKER_00: or running ads and really pushing.
- 21:11SPEAKER_00: But that's fascinating.
- 21:12I bet you were very excited that day when you saw that sale
- 21:15that got you going,
- 21:15right?
- 21:16SPEAKER_00: It's like, wow, there's an opportunity here.
- 21:19SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 21:20yeah and for i use an example a lot of times as going back to
- 21:23farmers markets again
- 21:24i never did a farmer's market where i didn't tell my current
- 21:27consumers that i was
- 21:29going to a farmer's market even though it's online even though
- 21:31it's on amazon
- 21:33whichever channels i was on i told my consumers that i was
- 21:36there because maybe they
- 21:37were heading down saturday and they that was the reason that
- 21:39pushed them over
- 21:40because they had to find something for a wedding or an event
- 21:42coming up so just
- 21:44Letting even your current customers know where they can buy
- 21:46your products for
- 21:47SPEAKER_01: convenience or ease,
- 21:48SPEAKER_01: whether it's online,
- 21:48SPEAKER_01: whether it's in person,
- 21:49SPEAKER_01: whether it's down at the market,
- 21:50SPEAKER_01: whether it's on a marketplace,
- 21:52just giving them that information to be able to go and buy it
- 21:55however they want to.
- 21:56I think that you're speaking of simply just opening up an email
- 22:00and maybe putting
- 22:00SPEAKER_00: all your friends in a BCC and just say,
- 22:03SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 22:03I'm so excited to announce that I've launched on XYZ
- 22:07Marketplace and I would love
- 22:08SPEAKER_00: for you to just check out and support wherever you can.
- 22:11SPEAKER_00: And something that simple or maybe post it on social media,
- 22:15SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 22:16SPEAKER_00: get the word out there,
- 22:17SPEAKER_00: get things rolling,
- 22:17SPEAKER_00: get that one sale,
- 22:18get that first sale in there and then you'll see how great you
- 22:21feel and then roll
- 22:23SPEAKER_00: with that into other sales,
- 22:24SPEAKER_00: hopefully.
- 22:24SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 22:25SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 22:27SPEAKER_00: What about managing inventory?
- 22:29SPEAKER_00: How did you deal with,
- 22:31SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 22:31SPEAKER_00: managing inventory and what these days are,
- 22:33SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 22:33SPEAKER_00: are there really good tools that people can rely on?
- 22:36Let's say they're selling on Amazon and maybe Etsy and their
- 22:40own online store.
- 22:41SPEAKER_00: What are, you know, how are people managing inventory?
- 22:46There are some good online tools and I don't have an exact recommendation,
- 22:48but Google them.
- 22:49SPEAKER_01: There are some ones,
- 22:50SPEAKER_01: depending on what you're selling in through,
- 22:52SPEAKER_01: it can push your products to different marketplaces too.
- 22:54SPEAKER_01: So like Shopify or even your own web stores,
- 22:58you can push them to different ones and it can manage that full
- 23:00backend inventory.
- 23:02SPEAKER_01: On our marketplaces, we do have an integration with Shopify and Square.
- 23:05SPEAKER_01: So we can pull in your inventory,
- 23:07we can sync it between there and if it pulled from your Shopify
- 23:10storefront or
- 23:10SPEAKER_01: reduce inventory in our marketplace.
- 23:12SPEAKER_01: And that's really convenient for those who are selling in store,
- 23:15SPEAKER_01: who are selling at markets,
- 23:16SPEAKER_01: who are selling through a marketplace,
- 23:20SPEAKER_01: making sure that it can kind of manage your inventory for you.
- 23:24SPEAKER_01: If you're not there yet, that's okay.
- 23:26SPEAKER_01: We have some who are managing it with stickers on their product.
- 23:29SPEAKER_01: So they put a sticker on it and they say, this I have on my online store.
- 23:32SPEAKER_01: If somebody comes up to check it out, you remove that sticker there.
- 23:34SPEAKER_01: And then later they go and drop it off online.
- 23:37SPEAKER_01: Myself,
- 23:38SPEAKER_01: when I used to do markets,
- 23:39SPEAKER_01: I would pause my Amazon inventory before I would go to a market.
- 23:43SPEAKER_01: And so I paused that Friday night.
- 23:45SPEAKER_01: I knew what I had.
- 23:46SPEAKER_01: Then that Saturday morning, I would go and sell it.
- 23:47And then I'd come back and update my inventory on my website
- 23:49and Amazon after that
- 23:50SPEAKER_01: farmer's market with what I still had available.
- 23:53SPEAKER_01: So there's ways to manually do it.
- 23:56SPEAKER_01: I love that.
- 23:57SPEAKER_01: Scrappy.
- 24:00SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, there's so many tools for everything.
- 24:03SPEAKER_00: And I think we all,
- 24:03SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 24:04SPEAKER_00: it's easy to get enamored by those tools and,
- 24:06SPEAKER_00: oh,
- 24:06SPEAKER_00: I need this software.
- 24:07SPEAKER_00: I need that software.
- 24:08SPEAKER_00: You know, just launch.
- 24:09SPEAKER_00: Just get the thing going and use some of these simple,
- 24:12SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 24:12SPEAKER_00: inventory management tactics that you're mentioning.
- 24:15Just get it going and you can add on complicated things and
- 24:18complex things down the road.
- 24:19SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 24:20SPEAKER_00: How about customer service?
- 24:22SPEAKER_00: How is that handle?
- 24:23SPEAKER_00: I know Amazon has some very strict policies.
- 24:26SPEAKER_00: You don't see an email address for the person.
- 24:32SPEAKER_00: All the contact is through the platform.
- 24:34How much customer service time did you have to put into when
- 24:38you were on the marketplace?
- 24:39And I guess some of the entrepreneurs that are on your
- 24:43different platforms,
- 24:44SPEAKER_00: are they having to put in a lot of extra customer service time?
- 24:48SPEAKER_01: What I recommend is setting up your storefront well in the beginning,
- 24:51and that's less time you're gonna have to do on the customer
- 24:53service end later on.
- 24:54SPEAKER_01: So whatever your policies are listed in there, be clear.
- 24:57So if you say you're gonna deliver your products within five
- 25:00days of ordering,
- 25:01SPEAKER_01: two days of ordering,
- 25:03SPEAKER_01: Do that.
- 25:03SPEAKER_01: Package up your orders,
- 25:04SPEAKER_01: communicate with the customer,
- 25:05SPEAKER_01: send them the tracking notice,
- 25:06SPEAKER_01: allow them to be able to track that order and follow it.
- 25:08SPEAKER_01: Because a lot of,
- 25:09SPEAKER_01: most customer service that we see on our side is a consumer saying,
- 25:12SPEAKER_01: hey,
- 25:12SPEAKER_01: I ordered this on X date.
- 25:13SPEAKER_01: I haven't received an update yet.
- 25:15SPEAKER_01: The customer, we always say put yourself in the customer's shoes.
- 25:18SPEAKER_01: That's the basis of customer service when you're selling online.
- 25:22SPEAKER_01: You wanna know when your order's coming.
- 25:23Maybe you're giving it for a gift or you have it for a party or
- 25:27whatever the reason is.
- 25:28SPEAKER_01: You wanna know when it's coming so you can do X, Y, and Z with it.
- 25:31SPEAKER_01: That's the very basis.
- 25:32SPEAKER_01: Communicate that, share that packing number.
- 25:36If you clearly state that you're,
- 25:39it comes with X,
- 25:39Y,
- 25:40and Z,
- 25:40X,
- 25:40Y,
- 25:40and Z in the package.
- 25:42SPEAKER_01: Over-communicate.
- 25:43SPEAKER_01: So thank you for your order right away when you get it,
- 25:45SPEAKER_01: that communication notice,
- 25:46SPEAKER_01: and then set a follow-up.
- 25:47SPEAKER_01: Hey, did you like your product?
- 25:48SPEAKER_01: Let me know what you liked about it.
- 25:49SPEAKER_01: Is there anything that wasn't as expected?
- 25:51SPEAKER_01: Because that can change your policy.
- 25:53That can maybe help you iterate on your product that you didn't
- 25:55think was a problem,
- 25:56SPEAKER_01: but until they told you,
- 25:57SPEAKER_01: oh gosh,
- 25:57SPEAKER_01: the clip fell off.
- 25:59SPEAKER_01: the first time I put on my daughter.
- 26:00That would make me send a new hair bow and adjust the glue that
- 26:03I'm using in the
- 26:03SPEAKER_01: back and understand like,
- 26:04SPEAKER_01: okay,
- 26:04SPEAKER_01: that didn't work.
- 26:05SPEAKER_01: So asking for feedback,
- 26:06SPEAKER_01: being over communicative,
- 26:08I think is going to eliminate almost all of that customer
- 26:10service problems.
- 26:11SPEAKER_01: And for me, it wasn't a big deal.
- 26:14SPEAKER_01: And for businesses that are doing it really well,
- 26:15SPEAKER_01: we see them,
- 26:16SPEAKER_01: they're the ones that are over communicating.
- 26:17The ones that maybe are having more problems are the ones that
- 26:20put a timeline in
- 26:21SPEAKER_01: there and they didn't meet it.
- 26:23SPEAKER_01: The customer reaches out to them and they don't reply.
- 26:25And then that's when you're going to come back in and get a
- 26:28negative review.
- 26:29That's when you might start to get kicked off marketplaces and
- 26:31some of those things too,
- 26:32SPEAKER_01: because the marketplace themselves wants customers to go to Amazon,
- 26:35SPEAKER_01: go to our website,
- 26:36SPEAKER_01: go to whichever marketplace and have a good experience.
- 26:38SPEAKER_01: And if you have regular repeat,
- 26:40vendors or sellers who aren't meeting their own set
- 26:44expectations level in the marketplaces,
- 26:45SPEAKER_01: then you're likely to get dinged or kicked off there too.
- 26:48SPEAKER_01: So just making sure that you're following through on what you say.
- 26:50SPEAKER_01: It's part of just being a good person in general,
- 26:53SPEAKER_01: but being a good business person,
- 26:54SPEAKER_01: I think is that that basis.
- 26:56SPEAKER_00: I love the fact that you're taking,
- 26:57SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 26:58SPEAKER_00: the idea of,
- 27:00SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 27:00SPEAKER_00: paying attention,
- 27:01SPEAKER_00: asking questions and learning from,
- 27:03SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 27:04SPEAKER_00: this is a very,
- 27:06SPEAKER_00: this is an area of fear for a lot of entrepreneurs is to ask questions,
- 27:09SPEAKER_00: right?
- 27:10SPEAKER_00: You know,
- 27:10SPEAKER_00: what did you think of,
- 27:11SPEAKER_00: because the,
- 27:12SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 27:12SPEAKER_00: well,
- 27:12SPEAKER_00: it could be a negative answer that comes back,
- 27:14SPEAKER_00: but...
- 27:16SPEAKER_00: you're coming at it from the standpoint of,
- 27:17SPEAKER_00: boy,
- 27:17SPEAKER_00: the changes you can make to your product,
- 27:19SPEAKER_00: make your product even better by asking those questions.
- 27:22And listen,
- 27:23everybody loves to be asked,
- 27:24you know,
- 27:25on the other side,
- 27:26as a consumer,
- 27:28If a brand reached out to me and said,
- 27:30hey,
- 27:30listen,
- 27:32just want to get your opinion.
- 27:33We just launched that particular product that you purchased and
- 27:37we'd love to get a
- 27:37SPEAKER_00: little feedback.
- 27:38SPEAKER_00: I mean, I would love to be a part of that.
- 27:39SPEAKER_00: It's almost like I'm part of their process of getting better.
- 27:43SPEAKER_00: And I love it.
- 27:45SPEAKER_00: So I love that you brought that up.
- 27:46And it's something that definitely entrepreneurs should do wherever,
- 27:50marketplaces,
- 27:51online store.
- 27:52SPEAKER_00: In the early days, you have to ask questions.
- 27:54SPEAKER_00: You have to.
- 27:55SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 27:55SPEAKER_00: So tell me,
- 27:56SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 27:57SPEAKER_00: I look at this and I say,
- 27:58SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 28:00SPEAKER_00: the e-commerce,
- 28:02SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 28:02SPEAKER_00: e-commerce has leveled the playing field,
- 28:04SPEAKER_00: I think,
- 28:04SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 28:05SPEAKER_00: for the most part,
- 28:05SPEAKER_00: where small businesses can now compete with large businesses.
- 28:09SPEAKER_00: Do you see that same thing happening?
- 28:11SPEAKER_00: You know, and I look at it a lot from a standpoint of an online store.
- 28:14SPEAKER_00: You know,
- 28:14I can build an online store on Shopify with some of the same
- 28:18great technology that
- 28:18SPEAKER_00: Amazon has.
- 28:20SPEAKER_00: I can source products.
- 28:21SPEAKER_00: Do you see that same thing happening in the marketplaces?
- 28:23Can a small brand still make it when there are larger brands
- 28:28maybe selling something similar?
- 28:31SPEAKER_01: Yeah, definitely.
- 28:34It goes with just business in general,
- 28:36but I think it takes having an idea.
- 28:38SPEAKER_01: It takes doing it.
- 28:40SPEAKER_01: It takes iterating on it.
- 28:41SPEAKER_01: It takes listening to your consumers.
- 28:43SPEAKER_01: It takes persistence.
- 28:44A lot of times the people that don't succeed or don't push
- 28:47through is just they
- 28:48either they started with a bad product and it wasn't maybe
- 28:51there was a niche for it.
- 28:52SPEAKER_01: But a lot of times it's not.
- 28:54SPEAKER_01: continue with it.
- 28:55SPEAKER_01: It's, it's dabbling a little bit here.
- 28:57SPEAKER_01: Oh, that didn't work.
- 28:57SPEAKER_01: Then dabble a little bit here.
- 28:58SPEAKER_01: Oh, that didn't work.
- 28:59SPEAKER_01: And then dabble a little bit here.
- 29:00SPEAKER_01: And like, Oh, that didn't work.
- 29:01SPEAKER_01: And maybe finding blame.
- 29:02SPEAKER_01: It's on Amazon or it's the, this marketplace or it's my website.
- 29:06SPEAKER_01: I couldn't do it or cost too much.
- 29:08Just sticking with something and pushing it and trying to make
- 29:11it bigger and better
- 29:12SPEAKER_01: each day,
- 29:13SPEAKER_01: I think is,
- 29:13SPEAKER_01: is,
- 29:14SPEAKER_01: That battle, I think, is not quitting early on.
- 29:18SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
- 29:20SPEAKER_00: But never in history has this been,
- 29:22SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 29:23this opportunity has been afforded to entrepreneurs to be able
- 29:26to do that.
- 29:27SPEAKER_00: You know, you could launch tomorrow and take on, you know, the giants.
- 29:31SPEAKER_00: You may not have the marketing budget to do it,
- 29:33SPEAKER_00: but,
- 29:34SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 29:34SPEAKER_00: the same marketing budget that they have.
- 29:36SPEAKER_00: But, you know, you could be scrappy.
- 29:37SPEAKER_00: You can do some of these things that we're talking about today.
- 29:39SPEAKER_00: So, yeah.
- 29:41SPEAKER_01: You can do things that the big guys can't do too.
- 29:43SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 29:43SPEAKER_01: Because they're not nimble.
- 29:46SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 29:46SPEAKER_01: You can get on TikTok.
- 29:47SPEAKER_01: You can find your direct customers.
- 29:48You can watch their videos and speak to their heart of what
- 29:51they're doing.
- 29:52SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 29:53SPEAKER_01: You have some other advantages that maybe the big players don't have.
- 29:56SPEAKER_00: And that's a great,
- 29:57SPEAKER_00: that's a great point because,
- 29:58SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 29:58SPEAKER_00: while the,
- 29:58SPEAKER_00: the,
- 29:59SPEAKER_00: the big players may be,
- 30:00SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 30:00they may have to have 10 meetings to figure out their TikTok
- 30:03strategy and who's
- 30:03SPEAKER_00: going to go on camera,
- 30:04SPEAKER_00: who's going to do what,
- 30:05SPEAKER_00: and we should hire this agency.
- 30:07You're already making the videos and already up there,
- 30:10you know,
- 30:10promoting.
- 30:12SPEAKER_00: Um,
- 30:12So one thing we like to teach in the e-commerce revolution
- 30:15community is about this omni-channel.
- 30:18SPEAKER_00: You know, you can't just be in one place, right?
- 30:21SPEAKER_00: You have to deal with it.
- 30:22SPEAKER_00: You have to build.
- 30:23SPEAKER_00: You have to go where your customers are.
- 30:26SPEAKER_00: And,
- 30:26SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 30:26SPEAKER_00: a well-rounded,
- 30:27SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 30:28SPEAKER_00: whether you start,
- 30:29SPEAKER_00: let's say you start on a marketplace first.
- 30:31SPEAKER_00: Let's say you start on Etsy.
- 30:33But eventually,
- 30:34you're probably going to want to launch your own online store.
- 30:37SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's on Shopify.
- 30:38SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's on Wix.
- 30:39SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's on Squarespace.
- 30:41SPEAKER_00: How do you see that integration?
- 30:42SPEAKER_00: You mentioned that your platforms integrate with Shopify,
- 30:45SPEAKER_00: making that inventory management very possible,
- 30:49SPEAKER_00: which is a huge,
- 30:50SPEAKER_00: huge time saver.
- 30:51I've heard many entrepreneurs talk about how important this is
- 30:54and how great it is.
- 30:56What else should I take into consideration when I have my
- 31:01online store and the marketplace?
- 31:03SPEAKER_00: Should I be selling the same products in both places?
- 31:05SPEAKER_00: Should I manage my inventory differently?
- 31:07SPEAKER_00: What are your thoughts on that?
- 31:13SPEAKER_01: I'm always a plan of expanding as much as you can for the time.
- 31:18So if right now you can only start in one channel because
- 31:20you're just figuring out
- 31:21what you're doing and you don't even know what sells and you
- 31:23don't even know who's
- 31:23SPEAKER_01: going to buy your product,
- 31:24SPEAKER_01: start there and start to get some of that messaging,
- 31:26SPEAKER_01: the product imaging,
- 31:27SPEAKER_01: those things right.
- 31:28SPEAKER_01: But as soon as you're able, add another channel.
- 31:30SPEAKER_01: It could be a physical channel.
- 31:31SPEAKER_01: It could be a farmer's market because then you're getting direct...
- 31:34SPEAKER_01: face-to-face customer information about your product.
- 31:37SPEAKER_01: It could be a pop-up shop in your hometown.
- 31:40SPEAKER_01: It could be dabbling on Amazon or eBay or Etsy or Poshmark.
- 31:44Your products might look the same if you have enough inventory
- 31:46and you think you
- 31:46SPEAKER_01: have a wide appeal.
- 31:48might dabble different especially if you're trying to manage
- 31:50inventory maybe you've
- 31:51got these 5 10 25 products on this marketplace you've got these
- 31:5525 on another these
- 31:5725 of another you're going to learn a little bit because the
- 31:59customers who come and
- 32:00who shop from them and how even like the seo search rankings
- 32:03maybe they didn't
- 32:04SPEAKER_01: start on etsy but whatever they put in pulled up etsy's ranking over your
- 32:08platform's ranking and they found that sooner so i think
- 32:11dabbling as much as you
- 32:12SPEAKER_01: can
- 32:13Do different inventory in the different marketplaces if you
- 32:15need to and try to have
- 32:16that obviously identify with whichever marketplace that is if
- 32:18there's a certain
- 32:20SPEAKER_01: product that speaks better to that customer there.
- 32:23But always expand and test out multiple channels because maybe
- 32:26your Etsy strategy
- 32:27SPEAKER_01: is really working,
- 32:28SPEAKER_01: but your own Shopify store,
- 32:29SPEAKER_01: it's tanking.
- 32:30SPEAKER_01: It's costing you a lot of money each month.
- 32:31SPEAKER_01: You're not keeping up with the needs to do.
- 32:33You're not marketing it very well,
- 32:34but your Etsy store is starting to take off.
- 32:36SPEAKER_01: Put a little bit more effort in there.
- 32:37Figure out why Etsy is working too,
- 32:38and then come back and iterate on your Shopify store.
- 32:40SPEAKER_01: Or maybe you don't want to keep up Shopify.
- 32:42SPEAKER_01: You're going to switch to Wix if it's a little bit more affordable or,
- 32:45SPEAKER_01: you know,
- 32:45SPEAKER_01: like it's okay to try some things.
- 32:48and then go back and see what's working let's not push more
- 32:51emphasis on what is but
- 32:53i i also don't want somebody to put their entire eggs in one
- 32:55basket whether it's
- 32:57our marketplace start here expand whether it's etsy start there
- 33:01expand jane.com was
- 33:04a really good marketplace i had shopped on there sometimes to
- 33:06myself it was a
- 33:07women's marketplace to go and buy a lot of different um
- 33:10products from from
- 33:11SPEAKER_01: businesses
- 33:12They just all of a sudden went out of business right before the
- 33:14holidays last year.
- 33:15And all of these sellers were left with tons of inventory,
- 33:17tons of product.
- 33:18SPEAKER_01: I think it's coming back.
- 33:20SPEAKER_01: But I know there are some that were just exclusively Jane sellers.
- 33:23And when stuff like that happens,
- 33:24it can affect your whole entire business.
- 33:25Or Amazon all of a sudden shots you off one day because they
- 33:27have a competing
- 33:28SPEAKER_01: product and all of your products go down.
- 33:30SPEAKER_01: We just think as much as possible, diversify.
- 33:32SPEAKER_01: Don't put everything in one basket,
- 33:34SPEAKER_01: whether it's your own website,
- 33:35SPEAKER_01: whether it's just farmers markets,
- 33:37SPEAKER_01: whether it's a marketplace,
- 33:39SPEAKER_01: go and expand and do as much as possible that you can still control.
- 33:42So if you're starting to have bad customer experience,
- 33:44you might need to pull it back.
- 33:46SPEAKER_01: But as much as you can,
- 33:47I think it's definitely worth putting eggs in different baskets
- 33:51and trying them out.
- 33:51SPEAKER_00: That's a phenomenal point.
- 33:53SPEAKER_00: And I think most of these big marketplaces,
- 33:57SPEAKER_00: and I'll exclude yours from this mix,
- 34:00SPEAKER_00: is you don't own the customer.
- 34:01SPEAKER_00: You don't even see the customer.
- 34:03SPEAKER_00: In your own marketplaces, you definitely see the customer.
- 34:06SPEAKER_00: So if they go down, like you mentioned, jane.com, I mean, that's...
- 34:12SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's devastating.
- 34:14SPEAKER_00: I mean,
- 34:14SPEAKER_00: if you were just for the sellers who were just on that one platform,
- 34:18SPEAKER_00: that just ruined their entire business and they have to quickly scramble.
- 34:22SPEAKER_00: So it is a great point.
- 34:23SPEAKER_00: I mean,
- 34:23SPEAKER_00: diversification,
- 34:25SPEAKER_00: but you're paying attention at the same time of where it's working,
- 34:29SPEAKER_00: right?
- 34:29SPEAKER_00: What is working?
- 34:30SPEAKER_00: And it's the 80-20 rule, I guess, in some ways.
- 34:33You're putting your attention to the right things because
- 34:35that's what's generating profit.
- 34:37But you still have this other thing that's working a little bit
- 34:39over here where you
- 34:40SPEAKER_00: can shift attention
- 34:42immediately if something went wrong on a platform,
- 34:46a marketplace platform.
- 34:47SPEAKER_00: Great advice on that.
- 34:49SPEAKER_01: Pandemic and retailers, that's where we came in.
- 34:51But if they had all of their effort just in the retail store
- 34:54and then the pandemic
- 34:55made them close their store for three months and they haven't
- 34:57yet been online,
- 34:58SPEAKER_01: they didn't even know how to get online,
- 34:59SPEAKER_01: didn't even have a website,
- 35:01SPEAKER_01: that's a whole big undertaking.
- 35:02So if they already had a website set up and had some products
- 35:04kind of dabbling,
- 35:05the ease of transitioning and switching more products online or
- 35:08doing that was much
- 35:09SPEAKER_01: easier than figuring out that whole entire strategy.
- 35:12SPEAKER_01: So yeah.
- 35:13SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 35:13SPEAKER_01: Great.
- 35:14SPEAKER_00: I love it.
- 35:15SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 35:15SPEAKER_00: I know my wife had to jump into live selling,
- 35:18SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 35:18SPEAKER_00: jump on and even,
- 35:19SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 35:19SPEAKER_00: nothing sophisticated other than the iPhone,
- 35:22SPEAKER_00: uh,
- 35:22SPEAKER_00: FaceTime and let's get on with a few customers who want to buy this,
- 35:25SPEAKER_00: that,
- 35:25SPEAKER_00: and the other.
- 35:26SPEAKER_00: And, uh, let's, uh, walk the empty store by herself with a mask on.
- 35:30Um,
- 35:30so yes,
- 35:31adapting and being able to jump in,
- 35:33uh,
- 35:33is a huge,
- 35:34huge component and,
- 35:35SPEAKER_00: I guess then you're scrappy, right?
- 35:37SPEAKER_00: As an entrepreneur, you're making things happen.
- 35:39SPEAKER_00: So tell me,
- 35:40SPEAKER_00: shift a little bit and talk about,
- 35:42SPEAKER_00: I think every marketplace we've mentioned has been US-based,
- 35:47SPEAKER_00: but there's a big rise in Chinese retailers adding on marketplaces,
- 35:51SPEAKER_00: the Sheens,
- 35:52SPEAKER_00: the Temus,
- 35:53SPEAKER_00: and some people call it Timu,
- 35:54SPEAKER_00: Temu,
- 35:55SPEAKER_00: are opening up their platform for third-party sellers,
- 35:58SPEAKER_00: really taking on Amazon.
- 36:01SPEAKER_00: Any thoughts on this?
- 36:02SPEAKER_00: Are you seeing this?
- 36:03SPEAKER_00: Are you hearing about this?
- 36:05Or is it still very new and it really hasn't saturated the
- 36:09e-commerce landscape yet?
- 36:12I haven't seen it from the retailers or businesses that we're
- 36:14working with yet that
- 36:15SPEAKER_01: they are starting to add that on.
- 36:17SPEAKER_01: If anything,
- 36:18it's more of a nervousness that some of the really discounted
- 36:22products that maybe
- 36:23SPEAKER_01: are coming in from China are then competing with the retailers there.
- 36:27But I think it's good to pay attention to,
- 36:29and it's good to possibly start dabbling in.
- 36:31SPEAKER_01: I remember Gary Vaynerchuk
- 36:35SPEAKER_01: entrepreneur back when TikTok first came out and he's like,
- 36:38SPEAKER_01: I'm not on here doing the dances,
- 36:39SPEAKER_01: but I'm,
- 36:40as people are starting to flock to this platform and I'm going
- 36:42to figure it out.
- 36:43And so being one of the first to figure out a platform,
- 36:45I think is really advantageous.
- 36:47SPEAKER_01: If you got on TikTok in the beginning, you started building a following.
- 36:50SPEAKER_01: So those people have millions and millions of followers now who are
- 36:53just checking in their life updates and follow their product
- 36:55recommendations and things.
- 36:56SPEAKER_01: So if there's a new opportunity to get involved in something,
- 37:00SPEAKER_01: start it,
- 37:00SPEAKER_01: dabble it,
- 37:01SPEAKER_01: see if you like it,
- 37:02SPEAKER_01: see if it gets you any traction.
- 37:03I think it's definitely always worth pursuing whether it's here
- 37:06or overseas based,
- 37:07but we do see more entrepreneurs getting their products in
- 37:11TikTok shop and doing
- 37:12SPEAKER_01: some of that now,
- 37:13SPEAKER_01: which I think is,
- 37:14SPEAKER_01: helping to grow their following.
- 37:15SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 37:16SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 37:16SPEAKER_00: I had read that,
- 37:17SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 37:17SPEAKER_00: I don't know if this is,
- 37:18SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 37:19SPEAKER_00: absolutely true or not that,
- 37:22SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 37:22Amazon is paying very close attention to both of those
- 37:24platforms because they are rapidly,
- 37:27SPEAKER_00: they're even adding on fulfillment.
- 37:30SPEAKER_00: You know, they're growing very quickly.
- 37:31SPEAKER_00: And yeah,
- 37:32SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 37:32SPEAKER_00: they do have a bit of a reputation of that,
- 37:34SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 37:34SPEAKER_00: fast fashion for sheen.
- 37:35SPEAKER_00: And,
- 37:35SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 37:36SPEAKER_00: Temu is,
- 37:37SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 37:38SPEAKER_00: you buy the,
- 37:38SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 37:39something that costs $2 because you spun the wheel and you got
- 37:43something that may
- 37:44SPEAKER_00: not fit.
- 37:44SPEAKER_00: And I think that's, you know, to the point of you made earlier of,
- 37:48SPEAKER_00: making sure you understand you don't have to be on every marketplace.
- 37:51SPEAKER_00: You should be on the marketplaces where your customers are.
- 37:54Now Amazon's a bit of an exception because every buyer that you
- 38:00can think of is
- 38:01SPEAKER_00: probably on Amazon and you'll be able to find them.
- 38:03But especially as you start to get into these niche
- 38:07marketplaces and these emerging marketplaces,
- 38:10SPEAKER_00: you know, really understand why should I be there?
- 38:12SPEAKER_00: Do I need to be there?
- 38:13SPEAKER_00: Is it really important?
- 38:14SPEAKER_00: It might sound really shiny at first.
- 38:17SPEAKER_00: And let it evolve to dabble in it,
- 38:19SPEAKER_00: as you mentioned,
- 38:20SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 38:20SPEAKER_00: maybe keep a close eye on it,
- 38:21SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 38:22SPEAKER_00: watch it.
- 38:23SPEAKER_00: But be,
- 38:25SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 38:25focus on the areas that matter to your business and that can
- 38:28make a big difference
- 38:29SPEAKER_00: to your business.
- 38:31SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm very intrigued by what's coming.
- 38:35SPEAKER_00: And it seems that technology has gotten easier.
- 38:37The things that Amazon took years to build,
- 38:40you've got Temu spinning these things up in seconds.
- 38:44SPEAKER_00: And that can be frightening.
- 38:47SPEAKER_00: That can be definitely very, very frightening out there.
- 38:50So one of our co-workers talked about this,
- 38:52this lucky scoop that was on TikTok.
- 38:55SPEAKER_01: And I was like, what is lucky?
- 38:56SPEAKER_01: I'm in my place.
- 38:57And so I'm finally getting on TikTok and trying to learn the
- 38:59platform for,
- 39:00SPEAKER_01: you know,
- 39:01SPEAKER_01: for what we do.
- 39:02SPEAKER_01: But I was like, what is this lucky scoop?
- 39:03SPEAKER_01: And why do you, why do you care so much?
- 39:04SPEAKER_01: She's like, there are thousands of people watching this lucky scoop.
- 39:08SPEAKER_01: Wow.
- 39:08They just dip a bucket in these like random goods that you
- 39:11probably wouldn't want
- 39:12SPEAKER_01: or wouldn't need,
- 39:13SPEAKER_01: but they're doing it live in front of you,
- 39:15SPEAKER_01: scooping up like a bunch of
- 39:17weird things and then saying sherry this is your box and we're
- 39:20sending it to you
- 39:21and then you get to see all the things that they picked up live
- 39:23in front of you why
- 39:24is that working why do people care wow maybe it's more just
- 39:27fascinating but is
- 39:27there some aspect that you can take and put into your business
- 39:31or into your life
- 39:32selling or what you're doing just learn from what what's
- 39:35working and why and
- 39:37SPEAKER_01: See how you take that and adapt it to what you're doing?
- 39:40And I'm going to have to check that out because I can see that
- 39:43it plays a little
- 39:44SPEAKER_00: bit into the mystery box concept,
- 39:46SPEAKER_00: right?
- 39:46Yeah,
- 39:47you're seeing in the scoop,
- 39:48but you don't exactly know everything that fell in there.
- 39:50SPEAKER_00: And it's that anticipation of...
- 39:52SPEAKER_00: Wow.
- 39:53SPEAKER_00: And it's being done live.
- 39:54SPEAKER_00: And I know that TikTok favors a lot of that live.
- 39:57SPEAKER_00: And obviously, they have their own e-commerce platform.
- 40:00SPEAKER_00: They decided to forget about everybody else.
- 40:03SPEAKER_00: We're going to build our own.
- 40:04SPEAKER_00: And it's just fascinating, smart.
- 40:09SPEAKER_00: Pay attention to all of these things, I think is what Sherry's saying.
- 40:12SPEAKER_00: Watch what's happening out there.
- 40:14SPEAKER_00: You may need to be a part of it.
- 40:15SPEAKER_00: It may affect your business.
- 40:19SPEAKER_00: Let's talk about you've achieved success.
- 40:22From the day that you decided to start Member Marketplace and
- 40:27launch these
- 40:28SPEAKER_00: marketplace platforms,
- 40:32SPEAKER_00: Tell me, what's the top piece of advice?
- 40:34SPEAKER_00: You probably speak to a lot of entrepreneurs on a regular basis.
- 40:37SPEAKER_00: I'm a new entrepreneur.
- 40:40SPEAKER_00: I'm an emerging e-commerce entrepreneur.
- 40:41SPEAKER_00: I'm looking for some guidance out there.
- 40:43What would you tell me that would help me succeed,
- 40:46especially in the world of marketplaces?
- 40:50SPEAKER_01: I would say, oh gosh, aside from the basics that are already established.
- 40:57SPEAKER_01: let's put those aside,
- 40:58SPEAKER_01: the product photography,
- 40:59SPEAKER_01: descriptions,
- 41:00SPEAKER_01: titles,
- 41:00SPEAKER_01: those,
- 41:01SPEAKER_01: those basics,
- 41:02SPEAKER_01: I would say consistently showing up,
- 41:05whether it's on social media to be able to promote to wherever
- 41:08your products are sold,
- 41:09SPEAKER_01: whether it's adding new products regularly.
- 41:11SPEAKER_01: I know over the weekend we had a business that wrote in and said,
- 41:14SPEAKER_01: gosh,
- 41:14SPEAKER_01: I haven't had any sales in this platform.
- 41:17SPEAKER_01: I launched in,
- 41:18over three years ago where she's had very many whatever but
- 41:21took a peek at her
- 41:22products they're so niche that they only fit a few people and
- 41:27she uploaded them in
- 41:292021 and hasn't logged back into her store since 2022 uh and
- 41:33has never updated
- 41:34products has never reached out to customers i don't know if
- 41:36she's what she's on her
- 41:37SPEAKER_01: social media
- 41:38SPEAKER_01: If you're so niche that your customers can't identify and find it,
- 41:42SPEAKER_01: because right now SEO would have been going to those products,
- 41:44but there's probably not people clicking on it very often and
- 41:46they're not going to
- 41:47SPEAKER_01: find it.
- 41:47SPEAKER_01: And while it's in the marketplace,
- 41:48it's getting buried by the new products that are coming in
- 41:50daily on that marketplace.
- 41:52SPEAKER_01: And so how do you stay
- 41:55alive and thrive it's just by coming back weekly monthly at the
- 41:58very least updating
- 41:59your product inventory adding new products changing out your
- 42:02main product photo if
- 42:03that's not getting you clicks and attention changing that out
- 42:06for a different one
- 42:07updating your title there's some basics that you can do to kind
- 42:09of try and test um
- 42:11but i would say it's consistent improvement consistent
- 42:15interaction consistent
- 42:16SPEAKER_01: engagement of social media or your email list build an email list so many
- 42:20SPEAKER_01: entrepreneurs are not doing email lists especially these newer ones
- 42:24SPEAKER_01: That is a, we give you the customer's information.
- 42:27You can build your own email list off of our marketplace and
- 42:29people who have
- 42:29SPEAKER_01: shopped from you have visited your shop.
- 42:32Just being able to reach out to them and tell them you've got
- 42:35five new items listed,
- 42:36SPEAKER_01: come back and explore these.
- 42:38SPEAKER_01: It's consistency, I would say is my number one thing.
- 42:41SPEAKER_00: No, that's show up every day, I think is huge.
- 42:44SPEAKER_00: And the world of email marketing is near and dear to me.
- 42:48SPEAKER_00: I mean, yeah, that's a missed opportunity.
- 42:50SPEAKER_00: And there's so many ways to do it as well.
- 42:51SPEAKER_00: I mean,
- 42:52SPEAKER_00: yes,
- 42:52SPEAKER_00: you have some restrictions in some of these marketplaces where you can't,
- 42:55SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 42:55SPEAKER_00: get the email address,
- 42:57SPEAKER_00: you can't communicate directly to them.
- 42:58SPEAKER_00: But there are ways to...
- 43:00You know,
- 43:00do it in other platforms and just build in your own online store,
- 43:04you know,
- 43:04as well.
- 43:05And maybe you decide to launch something different inside of
- 43:07one of the marketplaces.
- 43:08SPEAKER_00: You're not going to let people know you have that email address now.
- 43:11SPEAKER_00: It is owned marketing.
- 43:13SPEAKER_00: You know, you own it.
- 43:14SPEAKER_00: So I love that.
- 43:16SPEAKER_00: So as we wrap things up,
- 43:17SPEAKER_00: I'm curious to know if you were going to launch a business,
- 43:21SPEAKER_00: if you are an entrepreneur,
- 43:23SPEAKER_00: if you were going to launch an e-commerce business today,
- 43:26SPEAKER_00: which marketplaces or which one marketplace would you choose?
- 43:30I mean,
- 43:31again,
- 43:31go back to it probably depends on the product that you're going
- 43:34to sell.
- 43:35SPEAKER_00: But which ones do you love?
- 43:36SPEAKER_00: Which ones stand out as really top performers in your mind?
- 43:41You've probably heard it already,
- 43:42but I'm getting a little bit fascinated with TikTok shop.
- 43:44SPEAKER_01: That's when I'm watching right now, just like what's happening.
- 43:46SPEAKER_01: Why are people buying?
- 43:48SPEAKER_01: There's both the products that are happening in there,
- 43:50SPEAKER_01: but then the influencer aspect,
- 43:53SPEAKER_01: but they're not even influencers.
- 43:54They're just regular people who can buy your product and
- 43:57discount promote it and
- 43:58SPEAKER_01: then get a little kickback.
- 44:00SPEAKER_01: I think just that whole ecosystem right now is super interesting to me.
- 44:04SPEAKER_01: And so figuring out what to launch in there,
- 44:06SPEAKER_01: You could even start,
- 44:07SPEAKER_01: even if you're not an entrepreneur,
- 44:08but you could start building up a following and start to
- 44:11recommend some products,
- 44:12SPEAKER_01: seeing how it works,
- 44:13SPEAKER_01: seeing what that kickback looks like.
- 44:14SPEAKER_01: So when you do launch your own products into the marketplace,
- 44:16SPEAKER_01: you've got an idea of that ahead of time.
- 44:18SPEAKER_01: So I think that one's super interesting to me right now.
- 44:20SPEAKER_01: I still like the print on demand versions.
- 44:26So whether you use Printful or Printify,
- 44:29but it's got to have your own kind of unique
- 44:31SPEAKER_01: touch and spin on it.
- 44:32SPEAKER_01: So we've seen some businesses who are just creating,
- 44:33SPEAKER_01: you look at it and it's obvious like,
- 44:35SPEAKER_01: oh,
- 44:35it's just somebody's a random logo or something they put on
- 44:39there and it's got the
- 44:39same just generic shirt and it's shown in the 854 versions of
- 44:45the same logo just on
- 44:46SPEAKER_01: different products and it's not really identifying there.
- 44:47SPEAKER_01: I think creating your own product
- 44:52niching them out but then having that third party still fulfill
- 44:54it so keeping that
- 44:56what makes it unique and intrinsic and not going to get it from
- 44:58somebody else but
- 44:59you actually don't have to go and fulfill it and send it to the
- 45:02customer i think is
- 45:05SPEAKER_01: I don't want to manage inventory on my own side anymore.
- 45:08SPEAKER_01: I'm going into a service-based business.
- 45:10I'm done with inventory and all of the clutter that it takes up
- 45:13in my house.
- 45:15SPEAKER_01: So that's also really interesting to me too.
- 45:17SPEAKER_00: I love it.
- 45:17SPEAKER_00: I love it.
- 45:17SPEAKER_00: Well, we actually, episode two of the season, we'll put a link to it.
- 45:24SPEAKER_00: We had an agency owner come on who specializes in TikTok shops.
- 45:27SPEAKER_00: And I too am fascinated by this, where this is going.
- 45:30SPEAKER_00: I love that they took that approach of
- 45:33SPEAKER_00: we're just going to do it ourselves.
- 45:34SPEAKER_00: We don't need you Shopify.
- 45:36SPEAKER_00: We don't need you anybody else.
- 45:37SPEAKER_00: We are going to build it end to end.
- 45:39SPEAKER_00: And especially around the discounting,
- 45:40some of the discounting things that they do where merchants
- 45:43don't even have to,
- 45:45SPEAKER_00: it doesn't come out of pocket in some,
- 45:46SPEAKER_00: in some situations.
- 45:48SPEAKER_00: Absolutely amazing.
- 45:49SPEAKER_00: And I guess what you were saying about Gary Vaynerchuk,
- 45:52SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 45:52SPEAKER_00: get in early and that's,
- 45:53SPEAKER_00: this is early days for TikTok shops,
- 45:55SPEAKER_00: especially this is a time to experiment if it fits,
- 45:59SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 45:59SPEAKER_00: your model,
- 45:59SPEAKER_00: if it's a,
- 46:00SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 46:00SPEAKER_00: if it works for your business and,
- 46:02SPEAKER_00: Try, experiment, test.
- 46:04SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's not right, but you won't know until you try.
- 46:06SPEAKER_00: Definitely.
- 46:08SPEAKER_00: Well,
- 46:09SPEAKER_00: we've got one final question for you,
- 46:10SPEAKER_00: and we like to wrap everything up with this one final question,
- 46:15SPEAKER_00: and it is on AI because AI is the hottest topic in town these days.
- 46:20SPEAKER_00: I'm just curious if you...
- 46:23probably use it in some way in your business,
- 46:26maybe on a daily,
- 46:27weekly basis.
- 46:29SPEAKER_00: What have you discovered?
- 46:30What's that one thing that you maybe have discovered lately
- 46:32that you just had a moment,
- 46:33SPEAKER_00: you stopped and you said,
- 46:34SPEAKER_00: wow,
- 46:35SPEAKER_00: I can't believe that I was able to do that.
- 46:41SPEAKER_01: Are you asking about that with AI?
- 46:44SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
- 46:44SPEAKER_00: just specifically like with AI,
- 46:46like a moment where you asked it to do something and it gave
- 46:49you something back and
- 46:50SPEAKER_00: you were like,
- 46:51SPEAKER_00: whoa,
- 46:51SPEAKER_00: this is unbelievable.
- 46:54This is going to be a little bit more personal than I planned
- 46:56to get,
- 46:56Ramin.
- 46:56SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 46:58SPEAKER_01: But last week I was having a moment as an entrepreneur,
- 47:01SPEAKER_01: as you do,
- 47:02SPEAKER_01: when you're like doubtful and you're like,
- 47:04SPEAKER_01: oh,
- 47:05SPEAKER_01: how I see it in my head,
- 47:05SPEAKER_01: is this ever going to go how I want?
- 47:07SPEAKER_01: Or is this a problem that I'm dealing with?
- 47:09SPEAKER_01: What's this?
- 47:10SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 47:11i put in a prompt yeah and i asked trash upt i said hey act as
- 47:15if you were my lord
- 47:16creator who designed me for this purpose here's what i'm
- 47:20struggling with can you
- 47:20give me an answer wow and i read the first sentence and i
- 47:23started crying i might
- 47:24even have it right now wow it was like it was a moment where
- 47:28you sometimes you're
- 47:29SPEAKER_01: trying to pray or meditate and you are waiting for that divine
- 47:34there but yeah and i read it and i just it was like everything
- 47:38i needed to hear at
- 47:38that moment so i use it every hour um i i don't i just did
- 47:43whether now if i'm
- 47:45praying through chat gpt which sounds super weird and people
- 47:47don't come after me if
- 47:48SPEAKER_01: you hear this try it for yourself um
- 47:52SPEAKER_01: But I use it just regularly.
- 47:54SPEAKER_01: It just helps me finish my thoughts sometimes or just clarify.
- 47:57SPEAKER_01: So every single chance that you can, I'm putting it into there.
- 48:00I know my husband thinks robots are going to come and take over
- 48:02my life someday.
- 48:03SPEAKER_01: They might.
- 48:05SPEAKER_01: Last chat, PPT, what to do at that time.
- 48:07SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
- 48:07SPEAKER_00: What do we do?
- 48:08SPEAKER_00: What do we do?
- 48:09SPEAKER_00: I love that.
- 48:09SPEAKER_00: That is, first of all, thank you for sharing that because it's
- 48:14SPEAKER_00: It's hard to be an entrepreneur.
- 48:15SPEAKER_00: It is very hard.
- 48:16SPEAKER_00: You have many moments of doubt, right?
- 48:19SPEAKER_00: Am I on the right path?
- 48:20SPEAKER_00: Am I doing the right thing?
- 48:22SPEAKER_00: Am I helping people the right way?
- 48:23SPEAKER_00: Am I building my business?
- 48:24SPEAKER_00: You know, all of these things that go through your mind.
- 48:27SPEAKER_00: And I've never thought to ask,
- 48:29SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 48:29SPEAKER_00: I ask it so many other things,
- 48:31SPEAKER_00: but I treat it like also like a confidant in some ways.
- 48:35SPEAKER_00: You know,
- 48:36SPEAKER_00: I'm sure everything's being recorded,
- 48:37SPEAKER_00: so I don't know how much of a confidant it can be.
- 48:40SPEAKER_00: But I ask it those questions to help me get out of a mental bind.
- 48:46SPEAKER_00: And you were in that situation.
- 48:48You were having a personal situation where you were struggling
- 48:52to get out.
- 48:52SPEAKER_00: And what a fascinating way.
- 48:54SPEAKER_00: And I encourage everybody, try these different things.
- 48:56SPEAKER_00: And I think we're at this – I know there's a lot of fear around this.
- 48:59SPEAKER_00: And this whole podcast was not meant to be about –
- 49:03SPEAKER_00: AI,
- 49:04SPEAKER_00: but in everything that we talked about in the marketplace,
- 49:07SPEAKER_00: right,
- 49:07from creating descriptions to potentially generating a copy for
- 49:12social media
- 49:13SPEAKER_00: promotion to even images.
- 49:15SPEAKER_00: I mean, AI is being used for that.
- 49:16SPEAKER_00: But there are so many other things,
- 49:18SPEAKER_00: which is why I like to ask the question,
- 49:19SPEAKER_00: because I want to know how people are using it.
- 49:22SPEAKER_00: And that was a fascinating answer.
- 49:26SPEAKER_00: And I'm going to go and try, honestly.
- 49:28There are plenty of days when people aren't available to talk
- 49:31to me,
- 49:32right,
- 49:32especially if you're
- 49:33SPEAKER_00: Running a solo,
- 49:34SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 49:34you're running a solo operation when you're really in that
- 49:37moment of quiet,
- 49:39SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 49:39SPEAKER_00: end of the day.
- 49:41SPEAKER_00: What's going on here?
- 49:42SPEAKER_00: You know, are we going to, you know, is this going to work?
- 49:44SPEAKER_00: Wonderful.
- 49:45SPEAKER_00: Wonderful answer.
- 49:46SPEAKER_00: Best answer I've heard.
- 49:48SPEAKER_00: Love it.
- 49:48SPEAKER_00: Love it.
- 49:49SPEAKER_00: Love it.
- 49:50SPEAKER_00: Well, Sherry, thank you so much.
- 49:51SPEAKER_00: This has been so...
- 49:53insightful i mean you were the perfect person i wanted to have
- 49:55you on you know from
- 49:56day one and i know i said we're coming we're coming back season
- 49:59two is coming back
- 50:00we're launching this this community we're going to get this
- 50:02whole thing going i
- 50:03really wanted you to come on because you have so much
- 50:05experience with the world of
- 50:07SPEAKER_00: marketplaces i mean you are building marketplaces
- 50:11I'm fascinated to see this new way that you're going to be
- 50:16doing these and your
- 50:18SPEAKER_00: thoughts and insights and you're a very thoughtful entrepreneur.
- 50:25SPEAKER_00: It takes a lot to be that and it also helps.
- 50:28SPEAKER_00: So I encourage everybody to be a thoughtful entrepreneur.
- 50:31SPEAKER_00: Think about your business in all these areas and experiment.
- 50:34SPEAKER_00: I think so much of what you said today was about
- 50:36Try things,
- 50:37you know,
- 50:38get involved early,
- 50:39you know,
- 50:40early days of a platform,
- 50:41get in there.
- 50:42SPEAKER_00: And I like to say that about, you know, your platform.
- 50:44SPEAKER_00: Some people ask, you know, should I do it?
- 50:46SPEAKER_00: Well, early days, get on, try it, experiment, build.
- 50:51SPEAKER_00: iterate, um, and, and expand, uh, from there.
- 50:54SPEAKER_00: So thank you very much for coming on and sharing,
- 50:58SPEAKER_00: uh,
- 50:58SPEAKER_00: this,
- 50:58SPEAKER_00: this,
- 50:59SPEAKER_00: uh,
- 50:59all this information with our entrepreneurs that are out there
- 51:02and maybe just take
- 51:03SPEAKER_00: a minute and,
- 51:03SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 51:03SPEAKER_00: let everybody know.
- 51:04SPEAKER_00: We'll definitely have,
- 51:05SPEAKER_00: um,
- 51:06SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 51:06SPEAKER_00: member marketplace Inc,
- 51:07SPEAKER_00: uh,
- 51:07SPEAKER_00: in the show notes,
- 51:08SPEAKER_00: but anywhere else they can reach out to you,
- 51:10SPEAKER_00: LinkedIn,
- 51:11SPEAKER_00: uh,
- 51:11SPEAKER_00: any other social media platforms.
- 51:14SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 51:14SPEAKER_01: MemberMarketplaceInc.com.
- 51:16SPEAKER_01: TikTok,
- 51:18SPEAKER_01: since I'm starting it,
- 51:18SPEAKER_01: again,
- 51:19SPEAKER_01: I'm navigating what I'm doing on there,
- 51:21SPEAKER_01: but come follow along as I mess up as I go along.
- 51:24SPEAKER_01: Startup Fairy, I think it is.
- 51:27SPEAKER_01: And then we're building,
- 51:27we've changed over Instagram to be a little bit more kind of
- 51:29personal and business building.
- 51:31SPEAKER_01: And gosh, I think it's under Sherry Edelson.
- 51:33SPEAKER_01: They've changed it over for me.
- 51:35So that one I'm not totally managing,
- 51:36but it's my content that's being pulled into there.
- 51:39SPEAKER_01: But yeah, MemberMarketplaceInc on LinkedIn as well.
- 51:42SPEAKER_00: Great.
- 51:43SPEAKER_00: Great.
- 51:43SPEAKER_00: Well,
- 51:43thank you very much and hope you have a great rest of your week
- 51:46and thanks for
- 51:47SPEAKER_00: coming on again.
- 51:48SPEAKER_00: And that's all we've got for today.
- 51:51SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
- 51:51SPEAKER_00: Thanks.
- 51:52SPEAKER_00: Bye-bye.
- 51:54All right,
- 51:54that brings us to the end of another episode of the e-commerce
- 51:58revolution podcast.
- 51:59SPEAKER_00: Don't forget to check out past episodes,
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