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- 0:37Jennifer Johnson: Today we welcome back into the studio EB Yarnell.
- 0:40Jennifer Johnson: Eb is an attorney, entrepreneur and community service leader.
- 0:43Jennifer Johnson: Her dynamic career has seamlessly woven together law, entrepreneurship and community service.
- 0:48Jennifer Johnson: She remains a dedicated professional, making a positive impact on both the legal community and the local community.
- 0:55Jennifer Johnson: It is such a pleasure to have you back.
- 0:57EB Yarnell: Thank you for having me again.
- 0:59EB Yarnell: It's so nice to be here, yes.
- 1:00Jennifer Johnson: So last time we talked about five things that every business needs to have legally from the beginning.
- 1:08Jennifer Johnson: Yes, that was really messy, but five things that need to be on our radar Absolutely With regard to legal.
- 1:15Jennifer Johnson: Today, I want to talk about essential personal legal planning that every entrepreneur should be aware of and should have on the radar, because we can button up our business.
- 1:26Jennifer Johnson: But what about our personal?
- 1:28Jennifer Johnson: Because there's never a perfect dissection between your business and your personal ever when you're an entrepreneur.
- 1:37EB Yarnell: Every entrepreneur learns that very early on, when they're working during their family time.
- 1:42Jennifer Johnson: Yes, oh goodness gracious, totally yeah, there's no line.
- 1:45Jennifer Johnson: And when we're talking legal, I mean that's very apparent, right?
- 1:53Jennifer Johnson: Yeah, because something that happens in your business is going to spill over to personal.
- 1:58EB Yarnell: So when you own a business, when you start a business, you are putting yourself out there into the community personally.
- 2:06EB Yarnell: So there are techniques, there are ways, there are protective measures that entrepreneurs can utilize to limit that exposure and that liability.
- 2:22EB Yarnell: So let's get into the big first one.
- 2:24Jennifer Johnson: Yes, Wills, and trusts.
- 2:26EB Yarnell: Yes, the thing no one likes to talk about estate planning.
- 2:29EB Yarnell: I know let's talk about our mortality, no, thank you, but that's so important.
- 2:38Jennifer Johnson: It is so important you need to continue the legacy, or whether that's selling, whatever that means.
- 2:44EB Yarnell: Absolutely, and you're investing so much.
- 2:46EB Yarnell: You're investing yourself, your soul.
- 2:48EB Yarnell: I mean, we know that as entrepreneurs, you're investing everything blood, sweat, tears, all your time, energy, passion.
- 2:55EB Yarnell: And oftentimes, when we get really rolling in business and things go really really well, the little things like estate planning fall to the back burner 100%.
- 3:07EB Yarnell: And if we just take care of it and we get it all wrapped up with a pretty little bow on it.
- 3:13EB Yarnell: It's pretty much done.
- 3:14EB Yarnell: It's much easier to maintain.
- 3:16EB Yarnell: It takes very little to no time or effort to maintain.
- 3:20EB Yarnell: We just have to get in and get it done at the onset.
- 3:24EB Yarnell: So the big thing about estate planning that works well as far as our entrepreneurial efforts and investments and assets is putting our assets into a trust.
- 3:42Jennifer Johnson: Okay, explain what that means, because not everybody understands Well, is a will the same thing as a trust?
- 3:48Jennifer Johnson: What's a trust?
- 3:49EB Yarnell: So a will is not the same thing as a trust.
- 3:52EB Yarnell: A trust is its own.
- 3:53EB Yarnell: I describe it as an entity.
- 3:56EB Yarnell: It's almost like a business kind of, but it's your personal business, Okay.
- 4:03EB Yarnell: So it lives on.
- 4:05EB Yarnell: It exists on past that individual's death Okay.
- 4:11EB Yarnell: Whereas me, individually, if I die, I'm done.
- 4:15EB Yarnell: The trust continues to live on.
- 4:18EB Yarnell: But what's the difference between a will?
- 4:19EB Yarnell: A will is a document that designates who does what, where things go.
- 4:26EB Yarnell: It's a way of describing and listing your wishes and, in some cases, assets, but there are some limitations involved in that as well.
- 4:40EB Yarnell: So a lot of people think, oh well, I don't have enough to warrant a trust don't have enough to warrant a trust.
- 4:48EB Yarnell: Only rich people have trusts, and that's not the case.
- 4:52EB Yarnell: There are so many different types of trusts.
- 4:54EB Yarnell: There are so many different ways to utilize trusts, especially if you're an entrepreneur and you have business assets and you have potential business liabilities.
- 5:05EB Yarnell: There are different types of trusts that go beyond just estate planning that you can utilize to protect those assets and keep them so far separate from yourself that they could be protected if you're sued personally for something that happens in your business.
- 5:22Jennifer Johnson: Ah, I see.
- 5:22Jennifer Johnson: So essentially what you said was it's like its own business.
- 5:27EB Yarnell: Yeah, the trust.
- 5:27EB Yarnell: That's how I describe it.
- 5:29EB Yarnell: It isn't technically, but again, it's an entity.
- 5:32EB Yarnell: It's a thing in existence that goes beyond the life of the individual who started it Got it.
- 5:39EB Yarnell: So, instead of saying, okay, this person died, now we have to get rid of all their stuff, we have to transfer all their assets.
- 5:46EB Yarnell: This account now has to be closed, this money has to be put somewhere else.
- 5:49EB Yarnell: It continues on in the trust.
- 5:52EB Yarnell: The management switches, so it's like a business in that regard.
- 5:56EB Yarnell: You can designate who manages it when you're unable, and it continues on.
- 6:02EB Yarnell: There are also tax benefits to having the trust Again, because you're not having to liquidate everything necessarily upon the death of the individual.
- 6:12EB Yarnell: So there's a lot of benefits.
- 6:14EB Yarnell: This is stuff that has to be planned on an individual basis.
- 6:18EB Yarnell: There is no right way across the board for everybody.
- 6:23EB Yarnell: It depends on what industry you're in, what assets you have, what you're looking to protect on what industry you're in, what assets you have, what you're looking to protect, your marital status, if you have kids.
- 6:35EB Yarnell: There's just so many factors that play into how this picture is painted for you in your life.
- 6:38EB Yarnell: But it is just such an important piece of every not just entrepreneurs every person's portfolio in life and just in the grand scheme of things, and it's probably the first thing that goes over the lip.
- 6:50EB Yarnell: Well, it's a difficult thing to acknowledge, right?
- 6:55EB Yarnell: Because we're basically saying I know I'm going to die and it's not something pleasant, coming in and saying, okay, I really need to figure out where all my things are going to go and who's going to get all my money.
- 7:06EB Yarnell: It's difficult, it's not a fun thing to face.
- 7:10Jennifer Johnson: We'd rather go to the dentist and have a root canal.
- 7:14EB Yarnell: Right, yeah, yeah, I mean it's tough and it takes time, it's an investment of time.
- 7:20EB Yarnell: But again, after you have that done, after it's put into that pretty little box with a bow on it, all you have to do is maintain it, change it occasionally if you need to.
- 7:29EB Yarnell: It's there, it's done.
- 7:31EB Yarnell: It's so important to do, absolutely.
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- 8:03Jennifer Johnson: All right, friends, we are back in studio with EB Yardnell, and she's an attorney, entrepreneur and community service leader, and we're talking about essential personal legal planning so important, yes, so we just talked about wills and trusts.
- 8:24EB Yarnell: Yes, now we're going to talk about asset protection.
- 8:27EB Yarnell: Okay, so I would like to just discuss some basic principles, some common concerns, some considerations that should be made.
- 8:38EB Yarnell: Anyways so when you're a business owner and you have people coming in, you have a product that's going out, whatever it might be, you have some interaction with people.
- 8:50EB Yarnell: There's always a potential exposure for liability there If they come after your business.
- 8:57EB Yarnell: It may or may not be a lot of money, a lot of opportunity for them to recover.
- 9:04EB Yarnell: It opens you up personally and oftentimes they will try to personally sue the owner of a company.
- 9:13EB Yarnell: Florida law in most what am I trying to say here?
- 9:21EB Yarnell: Cases Circumstances.
- 9:22EB Yarnell: In most circumstances there's some protection that's afforded to a business owner.
- 9:25EB Yarnell: But there are ways that we can further ensure that we're protected and that our assets, our extra properties or whatever we might have, are also protected.
- 9:38EB Yarnell: So there's a lot of different venues.
- 9:41EB Yarnell: One is a trust, like we were discussing earlier.
- 9:43EB Yarnell: There are different types of trusts that we can use as a vehicle to protect our assets and keep them outside of us as an individual, to distinguish them in a way that keeps them outside of the purview of what EB Yarnell has, or what Jennifer?
- 10:00EB Yarnell: Johnson as an individual has.
- 10:01EB Yarnell: There's a lot of tricky, fancy footwork that attorneys can do to retitle things.
- 10:09EB Yarnell: If you have say, for example, this is a common thing that we see Business owners have a rental property, they will own the rental property in their own name.
- 10:21EB Yarnell: This is opening yourself up for huge liability Anything that you own that isn't your homestead, that isn't your Really your everyday, or not even your everyday car.
- 10:35EB Yarnell: There's a way to protect that too.
- 10:37EB Yarnell: But I would just say that anything should be considered as far as how it can be better protected, how it can be retitled, as how it can be better protected, how it can be retitled, how it can be better held so that it's not exposed to potential liability.
- 10:51Jennifer Johnson: Okay, it makes sense yeah.
- 11:04EB Yarnell: I mean ouch To have to think ahead to what if I get sued.
- 11:05EB Yarnell: It's not a happy thought, no, but unfortunately, as business owners, we're targeted, we're an easy target.
- 11:12Jennifer Johnson: Everybody thinks and it's so funny as a business owner oh my gosh, you're rich, right, you are rolling in the dough.
- 11:20Jennifer Johnson: People don't understand that.
- 11:22Jennifer Johnson: That's not really how a business owner is, right?
- 11:28Jennifer Johnson: Not most of us.
- 11:36Jennifer Johnson: We're not the Bill Gates's of the world.
- 11:38Jennifer Johnson: It's like car accidents, right?
- 11:40Jennifer Johnson: I mean that's how I can relate to it.
- 11:47Jennifer Johnson: It's like somebody just slamming on their brakes to get into a car accident just to collect the money.
- 11:51Jennifer Johnson: Right, that can happen when you own a business, anything like that.
- 11:57Jennifer Johnson: Somebody slips and falls and then they go get.
- 12:00EB Yarnell: Absolutely.
- 12:01EB Yarnell: Slip and falls are a huge thing.
- 12:02EB Yarnell: I mean, there's just so many and, again, depending on the industry, there's so much exposure to potential liability there.
- 12:08EB Yarnell: Anything that you own, you want to protect and there's ways.
- 12:13EB Yarnell: Say, for example, I was just talking about a rental home that rental home should be a business.
- 12:18EB Yarnell: You should have another business for that rental home, right, it should be protected as its own business, again, adding a layer of separation between you personally and that property or anything that happens in that property.
- 12:29Jennifer Johnson: And you know a lot of people because I'm kind of going on to the next point but about like well, shouldn't insurance do that?
- 12:36EB Yarnell: Right, that's a question Absolutely, and every small business needs insurance and, again, depending on the area that you're operating in, that insurance looks differently.
- 12:47EB Yarnell: If you have a building and you're inviting business guests in, you're going to need general liability.
- 12:54EB Yarnell: There's nothing that says I can't be added to a lawsuit.
- 13:00EB Yarnell: I can be added to a lawsuit for just about anything.
- 13:03EB Yarnell: I could be added to a lawsuit and not have been there.
- 13:07Jennifer Johnson: I then have to go prove I wasn't there.
- 13:12EB Yarnell: So a lot of times what will happen is people will add you individually and then you have to go and defend yourself as a business owner.
- 13:22EB Yarnell: Oh wow, really, unless it's so blatantly obvious, unless it's so blatantly obvious but you still have to make a motion to the court to say this is incorrect and this is why, and that's time and that's money.
- 13:36EB Yarnell: So, when it comes to insurance, when it comes to things like that, they're going to sue your business.
- 13:40EB Yarnell: They're going to probably put you.
- 13:42EB Yarnell: Then you're going to have to bring in the insurance company.
- 13:44EB Yarnell: You're going to have to put the insurance company on notice that this happened.
- 13:48EB Yarnell: They don't know who your insurance company is Right, of course I don't know.
- 13:51EB Yarnell: If I had an issue I would sue the business directly and then they would put the insurance company on notice.
- 13:56EB Yarnell: So again, insurance is essential.
- 13:59EB Yarnell: There's no replacement for having proper insurance in place, but it's limited to whether or not the policy is going to specifically cover that incident.
- 14:10EB Yarnell: What does the policy say about that type of coverage?
- 14:13EB Yarnell: Is that covered?
- 14:14EB Yarnell: And then, what are the amounts that you're covered up to 100%, right?
- 14:19EB Yarnell: And what are they claiming their damages were?
- 14:21EB Yarnell: If they aren't met, they can continue to seek more Wow From your business or from you, right?
- 14:29EB Yarnell: So it's essential that your business assets, your personal assets, that you seek protection for those Right At the onset and that you set things up.
- 14:37EB Yarnell: It's so much easier to set it up correctly and to do things correctly than to do it wrong and then say, oh, I should go back and change all that stuff, right?
- 14:50EB Yarnell: So if you know you're getting into business, if you know you're opening a business and you're becoming an entrepreneur and you're exposing yourself to the public, consult with somebody and get that protection in place and hopefully some of that could be avoided, right?
- 15:07Jennifer Johnson: That's 100% crucial.
- 15:09Jennifer Johnson: Definitely, have a good attorney in your back pocket.
- 15:13Jennifer Johnson: Yeah, you need to have them because they can definitely guide you from the very beginning and we don't want you to have to call us.
- 15:20EB Yarnell: We want to get at least and I can't speak for every attorney, but personally and at my law firm, we believe in getting our clients set up properly.
- 15:31EB Yarnell: We don't want them to be sued, we want to know that they are protected, and that's our goal.
- 15:39EB Yarnell: That is the main thing.
- 15:40EB Yarnell: Let's get you set up right so that you don't need us later Exactly.
- 15:45Jennifer Johnson: Well, thank you again for such a wealth of information for our listeners.
- 15:50Jennifer Johnson: If our listeners want to get a hold of you, how?
- 15:52EB Yarnell: can they do so?
- 15:53EB Yarnell: So my email address is eb, as in boy Newberry, n-e-w-b-e-r-r-y at napleslawus, fabulous, thank you so much again, thank you.