Latest / The Vault: The Epstein Files / Doug Band And His Epstein Related Congressional Transcript (Part 4) (7/23/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
- 0:03Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're picking up where we
- 0:06Speaker 1: left off with Doug Band and his interview with Congress.
- 0:11Speaker 1: Question your friendship with miss Maxwell. You said many times
- 0:14Speaker 1: that you don't recall regarding that relationship, but you say
- 0:17Speaker 1: that you were friends Band, we were friends. Question, but
- 0:21Speaker 1: you don't recall many many interactions with her? Answer? No, sir,
- 0:25Speaker 1: I don't recall Higgins. That's all. Now it's mister Harness
- 0:29Speaker 1: doing the questioning again. Question, just to touch quickly on this,
- 0:34Speaker 1: did you ever have a conversation with President Clinton about
- 0:36Speaker 1: mister Epstein's assistants or young women around mister Epstein? Answer?
- 0:41Speaker 1: Not that I recall. Question Okay, I'd like to introduce
- 0:44Speaker 1: into the record majority Exhibit one. This is an email
- 0:48Speaker 1: chain on April thirteenth, two thousand and three between the
- 0:51Speaker 1: WJC email address, which I will admit to you is
- 0:55Speaker 1: WJC at imc ingu l R dot com singular with
- 1:02Speaker 1: the C and Glene Maxwell. This is Mark Desbates number
- 1:05Speaker 1: e F T A zero zero five eight two three
- 1:08Speaker 1: two six. Will give you a moment to review this answer.
- 1:12Speaker 1: Thank you. Question mister Band. Outside of preparation for this interview.
- 1:18Speaker 1: Have you ever seen these messages before? Answer? I don't
- 1:21Speaker 1: recall this message at all. No. Question from the WJC
- 1:25Speaker 1: email address. Did you send that email? Answer I don't
- 1:28Speaker 1: recall sending it. Question mister band, is that WJC email address?
- 1:33Speaker 1: Is that your email address? Answer? You know, I don't
- 1:36Speaker 1: remember specifically the email addresses that we used and we
- 1:39Speaker 1: didn't use, but I believe so. Question So, mister Band,
- 1:42Speaker 1: did you have access to a WJC email account to
- 1:46Speaker 1: which I've already laid out to you. Did you have
- 1:49Speaker 1: access to that? Answer, to the best of my recollection, yes,
- 1:53Speaker 1: Question did anyone else have access to that email address? Answer?
- 1:56Speaker 1: I don't think so, not that I can recall. Question
- 2:00Speaker 1: So then we can agree that if you don't recall
- 2:02Speaker 1: anybody else having access to this, but you had access
- 2:06Speaker 1: to this this is your email? Answer I believe so.
- 2:09Speaker 1: But again, this is twenty three years ago. Question just
- 2:12Speaker 1: working through the substance of the email. It opens with
- 2:15Speaker 1: just spook to our favorite person, mister Levine? Is that
- 2:18Speaker 1: Philip Levine that you're referring to? Answer? You know, again,
- 2:22Speaker 1: I just don't remember the email, so I don't know,
- 2:24Speaker 1: possibly sure. Question who is mister Levine? Answer Philip Levine
- 2:28Speaker 1: is a president or a friend of President Clinton's. Question
- 2:31Speaker 1: was he your friend as well? Answer? We became friends? Yeah.
- 2:35Speaker 1: Question when did you become friends with mister Levine? Answer?
- 2:39Speaker 1: I don't recall specifically when we became friends. Question do
- 2:42Speaker 1: you know who introduced you to mister Levine? Answer? I
- 2:45Speaker 1: don't remember. Question can you characterize your relationship with mister Levine?
- 2:50Speaker 1: Answer socially friends? Question and how long did you have
- 2:54Speaker 1: a relationship with mister Levine? Answer? I don't remember specifically.
- 2:58Speaker 1: He was again a friend of the residents and important
- 3:01Speaker 1: to him, and we were friends. We became friends as well,
- 3:06Speaker 1: and by socially question what does that mean you attended
- 3:09Speaker 1: functions together? You saw each other purely at work type events.
- 3:13Speaker 1: What does socially friends mean to you? Answer? Yeah, I
- 3:17Speaker 1: mean I was a young, single, unmarried guy in New
- 3:19Speaker 1: York in my late twenties when President Clinton left the
- 3:22Speaker 1: White House and I was friends with Philip. Question can
- 3:25Speaker 1: you approximate when your relationship with Philip Levine started? Answer?
- 3:29Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I just don't remember when. Question, Well, this
- 3:32Speaker 1: is you emailing about saying our favorite person, mister Levine,
- 3:36Speaker 1: So would you say that he was a close friend
- 3:38Speaker 1: at the time of the email? Answer? You know again,
- 3:42Speaker 1: I would characterize him as a friend. As I said
- 3:44Speaker 1: about these emails, they were you know, written a long
- 3:47Speaker 1: time ago, flirtatious, joking, messing around, silly emails. So I
- 3:50Speaker 1: don't remember. Question. The reason I ask is that we
- 3:54Speaker 1: heard testimony that Philip Levine has sexually assaulted victims of
- 3:58Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein around the time I am of the early
- 4:00Speaker 1: two thousands. Do you have any knowledge of mister Levine
- 4:03Speaker 1: committing these acts? Did you ever hear a conversation with
- 4:06Speaker 1: mister Levine about him sexually assaulting women? Answer no, absolutely not.
- 4:11Speaker 1: Question do you have any knowledge at any time that
- 4:14Speaker 1: mister Levine was in sexual contact with a woman or
- 4:16Speaker 1: young girl associated with mister Epstein or Miss Maxwell? Answer no.
- 4:21Speaker 1: Question so you never had a conversation with mister Levine
- 4:24Speaker 1: about any woman associated to Miss Maxwell or Epstein. Answer
- 4:28Speaker 1: not that I recall. Question. Working through this email, it
- 4:32Speaker 1: seems that you and mister Levine were going to try
- 4:34Speaker 1: to do a lunch Tuesday or Wednesday. Did that lunch
- 4:37Speaker 1: ever occur around this day? Answer? I have no idea.
- 4:40Speaker 1: I don't remember the email. Question. Moving on, it seems
- 4:44Speaker 1: that you, mister Levine, were fretting over your women troubles.
- 4:48Speaker 1: Do you recall the nature of the conversation with mister Levine?
- 4:51Speaker 1: What were the women troubles? Answer? No, I don't question.
- 4:55Speaker 1: You state that this is you're trying to set up
- 4:57Speaker 1: a lunch prior to a dinner. This is a dinner
- 5:00Speaker 1: that supposedly happened on April fifteenth, two thousand and three,
- 5:03Speaker 1: at Jeffrey Epstein's New York Manhattan town home. Did you
- 5:06Speaker 1: attend that dinner? Answer? As I said earlier, the only
- 5:10Speaker 1: time I remember attending a dinner at his house was
- 5:13Speaker 1: with a large number of people. Originally I was going
- 5:15Speaker 1: to staff President Clinton, and he decided not to go
- 5:18Speaker 1: to the dinner, and I went and attended the dinner.
- 5:20Speaker 1: Question Who attended the dinner? Answer? I don't remember specifically
- 5:24Speaker 1: who attended the dinner. Question You don't recall any single
- 5:27Speaker 1: person by name attending the dinner. Answer again, I'm sorry.
- 5:31Speaker 1: As I said, we just attended so many dinners over
- 5:34Speaker 1: so many years, and this was, you know, almost two
- 5:37Speaker 1: and a half decades ago, so I don't remember specifically
- 5:39Speaker 1: who was there. Question I'm just going to run through
- 5:43Speaker 1: this list and see if it refreshes your memory on
- 5:45Speaker 1: who attended the dinner. Glenn Maxwell answer possibly, I mean,
- 5:49Speaker 1: I just don't remember. Question did Jeffrey Epstein attend the dinner? Answer?
- 5:53Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't recall him being there or not,
- 5:56Speaker 1: but it was at his house, so I assume. So
- 5:58Speaker 1: question was Frederick Fokai attending the dinner? Answer? I don't
- 6:02Speaker 1: remember Tom Pritzker, I don't recall question. Philip Levine answer.
- 6:07Speaker 1: I don't recall question. Sergey Brynn answer. I don't recall question.
- 6:11Speaker 1: Leone Black answer. I don't recall question. Lauren Stroll answer
- 6:15Speaker 1: same emer can you speak up band them? Sorry? I
- 6:18Speaker 1: don't recall same answer. I don't recall Jess Staley. I
- 6:22Speaker 1: don't recall John Brockman. I don't recall David Blaine. I
- 6:26Speaker 1: don't recall mort Zuckerman. I don't recall Peter Mandelsson. I
- 6:30Speaker 1: don't recall question did any member of the Clinton family
- 6:33Speaker 1: attend this dinner? Answer not that I recall question. In
- 6:37Speaker 1: this email, it seems that you're talking about a brenda.
- 6:40Speaker 1: Who is the brenda that you were referring to? Answer?
- 6:44Speaker 1: You know again, I don't recall the email, so I
- 6:46Speaker 1: don't know. I dated somebody named Brenda. Question and who
- 6:49Speaker 1: was that? Answer? A woman named Brenda Shadd. Question did
- 6:54Speaker 1: miss Shadd have any relationship or association with mister Epstein
- 6:57Speaker 1: or Maxwell? Answer not that I know of. Question You
- 7:00Speaker 1: go on to say that speak for this he meaning
- 7:03Speaker 1: mister Levine is bringing the brit to jay Ease. Who
- 7:06Speaker 1: is the brit that mister Levine was transporting? Answer? I
- 7:10Speaker 1: have no idea. I don't remember. Question Were there any
- 7:13Speaker 1: young women or girls present at the dinner? Answer? I
- 7:15Speaker 1: don't recall. Question. I'll report to you that there is
- 7:18Speaker 1: an email exchange between you and miss Maxwell where she
- 7:22Speaker 1: states to you that you should know that the people
- 7:24Speaker 1: who are going to be serving along with the staff
- 7:27Speaker 1: are five models. Did any female models attend the dinner? Answer?
- 7:31Speaker 1: I don't remember whether they did or didn't. Question you
- 7:33Speaker 1: don't recall if there was ever any women or young
- 7:35Speaker 1: girls attending the dinner? Answer no, sir, I do not. Question. Finally,
- 7:40Speaker 1: just one last part of that email, it seems that
- 7:42Speaker 1: you're talking about talking to miss Maxwell saying we figured
- 7:46Speaker 1: you would come maybe a late night burgerfest. Again, what
- 7:49Speaker 1: does Burgerfest mean. Answer, I have no idea. I mean,
- 7:54Speaker 1: as I sit here today, I'd like to go to
- 7:55Speaker 1: Melons on the Upper east Side in New York. It's
- 7:58Speaker 1: opened very, very late. It's one of the only places
- 8:01Speaker 1: so I possibly could have been that, But I don't
- 8:03Speaker 1: remember anything. I don't remember this email or anything about it. Question.
- 8:07Speaker 1: Miss Maxwell replies, saying how happy she is, contemplating how
- 8:10Speaker 1: lucky she is being with her two favorite men. Why
- 8:13Speaker 1: would Miss Maxwell consider you one of her favorite men
- 8:16Speaker 1: at the time? Answer, I have no idea, mister Emmer. Question,
- 8:20Speaker 1: mister band during your opening, you testified to not going
- 8:23Speaker 1: to mister Epstein's island. Is that right? Answer? Yes? Question
- 8:27Speaker 1: did you ever visit the pom Beach Home? Answer no,
- 8:30Speaker 1: not that I recall. Question did you ever visit the
- 8:32Speaker 1: New Mexico Ranch? Answer no, not that I recall. Question
- 8:36Speaker 1: what about his apartment in Paris? No question? And you
- 8:40Speaker 1: testified you had been to the Manhattan home? Is that right?
- 8:43Speaker 1: Answer yes? Question what do you remember from your visit
- 8:47Speaker 1: to the property? Answer? Yeah, As I said, those two
- 8:50Speaker 1: instances are all that I recall. Once when staffing President
- 8:53Speaker 1: Clinton and the other was for dinner. Question and It's
- 8:57Speaker 1: been reported, and we have seen from the files released
- 9:00Speaker 1: by the Department of Justice that mister Epstein decorated his
- 9:03Speaker 1: home with odd and unusual weird artwork. Do you have
- 9:07Speaker 1: any recollection of seeing anything that you thought was unusual
- 9:10Speaker 1: on his property? Answer I've seen those reports as well.
- 9:14Speaker 1: I do not. I recall when I staffed the president there.
- 9:16Speaker 1: I went in the door and sat in the front
- 9:19Speaker 1: sort of waiting area of the foyer, whatever you want
- 9:21Speaker 1: to call it, and didn't go into the house or
- 9:23Speaker 1: go on a tour. I don't recall seeing anything. Question
- 9:27Speaker 1: you didn't see nude paintings or photography? Answer not that
- 9:30Speaker 1: I recall no. Question did you see cameras in the property?
- 9:33Speaker 1: Answer no, not that I recall. Question there's a weird
- 9:37Speaker 1: photo that portrays your former boss wearing a dress. Did
- 9:40Speaker 1: you see that photo or painting while you're on the property?
- 9:43Speaker 1: Answer I don't recall seeing the photo. I've seen it
- 9:46Speaker 1: in print. Subsequently, question by mister Harness, But you weren't
- 9:50Speaker 1: aware of that painting existing during the time of knowing
- 9:53Speaker 1: mister Epstein and Maxwell, answer no, not that. I recall.
- 9:57Speaker 1: Mister Grant asking a question mister Bant did Glenn Maxwell
- 10:01Speaker 1: or Jeffrey Epstein ever inform you that they were working
- 10:03Speaker 1: with any intelligent service of any nation, including the United States,
- 10:08Speaker 1: mister Band, no grant. During your relationship or time knowing
- 10:12Speaker 1: mister Epstein and miss Maxwell, did you ever suspect mister
- 10:16Speaker 1: Epstein or miss Maxwell of being affiliated with an intelligence agency?
- 10:21Speaker 1: Mister Band, not that I recall, mister Harness. We'll go
- 10:26Speaker 1: off the record, and now they're back on question. Good morning,
- 10:28Speaker 1: mister Band, answer a good morning question. My name is redacted,
- 10:32Speaker 1: and my colleagues redacted and redacted, and I will be
- 10:34Speaker 1: conducting the questioning for the minority. We appreciate your willingness
- 10:38Speaker 1: to speak with us today. I have a couple of
- 10:41Speaker 1: notes before we begin. First, some of our questions may
- 10:44Speaker 1: be a little repetitive to those of our majority colleagues.
- 10:48Speaker 1: We're going to do our best to keep that at
- 10:50Speaker 1: a minimum. And then, secondly, to the extent that any
- 10:53Speaker 1: of our questions or your answers contain the names of
- 10:56Speaker 1: survivors or their I identifying information, we would ask that
- 10:59Speaker 1: the GJORDI redact that information prior to releasing the transcript publicly.
- 11:04Speaker 1: And with that will get started. Mister Band. You spoke
- 11:07Speaker 1: about much of this in the prior hour, but just
- 11:09Speaker 1: so we're clear for the record, I'm going to ask
- 11:12Speaker 1: you to set a foundational questions about Jeffrey Epstein and
- 11:15Speaker 1: Glenn Maxwell. To your knowledge, did President Clinton ever engage
- 11:19Speaker 1: in sexual activity with a person introduced to him by
- 11:21Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein or Glenn Maxwell? Answer no question. Prior to
- 11:25Speaker 1: Epstein's indictment in two thousand and six, do you have
- 11:28Speaker 1: any firsthand knowledge of President Clinton being aware of sexual
- 11:31Speaker 1: abuse committed by Jeffrey Epstein, Answer no question. Prior to
- 11:35Speaker 1: Epstein's indictment in two thousand and six, did you have
- 11:38Speaker 1: any firsthand knowledge of Secretary Clinton being aware of sexual
- 11:41Speaker 1: abuse committed by Jeffrey Epstein? Answer no question. Earlier this year,
- 11:45Speaker 1: President Clinton testified under oath that he has never visited
- 11:48Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein's former estate on Little Saint James Island. Mister Band,
- 11:53Speaker 1: do you have any firsthand knowledge to dispute President Clinton's testimony?
- 11:56Speaker 1: Answer no question. You discussed your time the White House
- 12:00Speaker 1: with my Majority colleagues, and again, just to revisit that time,
- 12:04Speaker 1: we understand that President Clinton. During President Clinton's time in office,
- 12:08Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein visited the White House on seventeen occasions from
- 12:11Speaker 1: ninety three to ninety five. Did you have any role
- 12:14Speaker 1: in those visits? Answer no, I did not. I was
- 12:16Speaker 1: in college. Question And in October of nineteen ninety nine,
- 12:21Speaker 1: toward the end of President Clinton's tenure, Epstein contributed twenty
- 12:25Speaker 1: thousand to Hillary's joint fundraising account. At that time, were
- 12:28Speaker 1: you aware of the contribution? Answer no. Question. Did you
- 12:31Speaker 1: play any role in securing the contribution? Answer no question.
- 12:36Speaker 1: And as you discussed, President Clinton's final day in office
- 12:38Speaker 1: was January twentieth, two thousand and one, and after that
- 12:41Speaker 1: he left office, you continued to work for him. And again,
- 12:44Speaker 1: just so the record's clear, in total, how long did
- 12:47Speaker 1: you work for President Clinton? Answer? Well, I was an
- 12:50Speaker 1: intern in the fall in ninety five, consider that working
- 12:53Speaker 1: or not. I was hired on staff I believe in
- 12:55Speaker 1: early ninety six, and left some time in early mid
- 12:58Speaker 1: twenty twelve. And okay, do you remember the particular date
- 13:02Speaker 1: when you last work for President Clinton? Answer I'm sorry,
- 13:06Speaker 1: it's a good question. Sometime in the early to mid
- 13:08Speaker 1: part of twenty twelve. Question okay, and when was the
- 13:11Speaker 1: last time you spoke with President Clinton? Answer. You know,
- 13:14Speaker 1: as I said earlier, I believe it's been at least
- 13:16Speaker 1: a decade since I spoke with them, but I don't
- 13:18Speaker 1: recall specifically. All right, folks, we're gonna wrap up right here,
- 13:23Speaker 1: and in the next episode, we're gonna pick up where
- 13:25Speaker 1: we left off. All the information that goes with this
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