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Midterm messaging has to change · Booker Scott: Truth Be Told

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Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us tonight and every night, and
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Speaker 2: so much for doing that. There's a lot happening in
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Speaker 2: the world, but there's something we should not lose sight of,
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Speaker 2: and that's this is an election year. There was a
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Speaker 2: primary last week. There's going to be another one next week.
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Speaker 2: They're coming fast and furious right now, and before you
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Speaker 2: know it, it's going to be November. I had a
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Speaker 2: message from Steve Abramowitz, who is the publisher of theheartlandjournal.com
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Speaker 2: and also the host of the podcast, The Heartland Journal,
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Speaker 2: as well. You can find that on YouTube. We'll find
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Speaker 2: out more about that in a few minutes, but He said,
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Speaker 2: let's have a conversation. So, Steve, what is it that
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Speaker 2: you want to talk about here tonight?
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Speaker 3: So because of your years of experience and your observation,
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Speaker 3: I think you're kind of a genius at it. I
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Speaker 3: want to talk about the midterm elections are coming up here.
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Speaker 3: We are in almost the 11th year of MAGA since 2008.
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Speaker 3: Donald Trump burst onto the scenes and took over the
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Speaker 3: Republican Party, whatever was left of it, after Bush, in
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Speaker 3: my opinion. And we have had a John McCain campaign,
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Speaker 3: a Mitt Romney campaign. It's his birthday today. Happy birthday,
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Speaker 3: Mitt Romney. And the Republican Party is not what it
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Speaker 3: was when I was growing up. And it's not what
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Speaker 3: it's been in the history books that I learned about
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Speaker 3: as well. I've been an observer of this for almost
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Speaker 3: 40-something years. And so I wanted to get your take
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Speaker 3: and to see, do you think that what Trump is
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Speaker 3: accomplished in his first year will have positive or negative
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Speaker 3: effects on the midterm elections coming in November?
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Speaker 2: From what I am seeing, and I don't know what
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Speaker 2: you're seeing, but what I see on social media, it
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Speaker 2: seems like the base is very, very frustrated that the Congress,
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Speaker 2: the House, and the are not codifying, as they will
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Speaker 2: say almost every day, probably a word that many had
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Speaker 2: not ever heard of before it started being used about
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Speaker 2: a year ago. Not fully understanding civics, maybe, that it
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Speaker 2: takes 60 votes in most things in the Senate, which
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Speaker 2: is going to slow things down. But I think there's
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Speaker 2: a huge frustration from Congress. And I think there's a
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Speaker 2: frustration also from the base of not having any accountability for,
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Speaker 2: you know, the things that we saw over the last
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Speaker 2: four or five years. With Joe Biden actually going back
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Speaker 2: to 2016 and the Russian hoax, people really expected some accountability,
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Speaker 2: and they haven't gotten it. And I think they're frustrated. And,
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Speaker 2: you know, hopefully they don't use it because ultimately what
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Speaker 2: they're going to do, even though they are big Trump supporters,
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Speaker 2: they are going to end up getting Donald Trump impeached.
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Speaker 2: And I don't want to see that. I don't think
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Speaker 2: our country should have to go through that again. But
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Speaker 2: that's what's going to happen if we continue on the
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Speaker 2: trend that I've been watching since November. And I don't
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Speaker 2: know if you have paid attention to all of these elections.
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Speaker 2: You had the New Jersey, Virginia races for governor that
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Speaker 2: started in November.
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Speaker 3: Oh, yes. Republicans have had a terrible time with special elections.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and regular elections. And if you look at the primaries.
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Speaker 3: Which is a canary in the coal mine for what
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Speaker 3: we're about to see. I mean, we have a 218
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Speaker 3: Republican to 213 Democrat minority, Democrats in the minority, four
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Speaker 3: vacant seats. We are one flu season away from the
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Speaker 3: Democrats giving us Hakeem Jeffries as the Speaker of the House.
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Speaker 3: I mean, it is not that far-fetched. We've really never been...
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Speaker 3: in an era with this closely divided of a Congress. Now,
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Speaker 3: here my hair stands up. The Democrats and the Republicans
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Speaker 3: in the House have actually done what they needed to do.
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Speaker 3: They passed a ton of bills. One example I'll give
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Speaker 3: you is Tim Burchett from my state of Tennessee, eastern Tennessee,
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Speaker 3: the good part. He has proposed a bill to take
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Speaker 3: away $ 40 billion a week from the Taliban, $ 40 million
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Speaker 3: a week from the Taliban. The Senate has been sitting
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Speaker 3: on this for 11 months, which means, what is that,
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Speaker 3: 400 weeks. They have made a lot of money off
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Speaker 3: the taxpayers and a simple bill that they have not
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Speaker 3: voted on to make America great again. And so the
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Speaker 3: House is fine. They'll probably lose it. They always do
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Speaker 3: in the midterms. It's the Senate. The Senate is the problem.
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Speaker 3: And John Thune is not doing what he needs to
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Speaker 3: do to keep the majority. Do you think he is?
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Speaker 2: I don't think so. And, you know, the Senate is
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Speaker 2: a little bit different than the House. The Republicans are
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Speaker 2: defending 22 seats this time as opposed to the 10
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Speaker 2: that they did in 2024. So there is much more
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Speaker 2: vulnerability for the Republicans in the Senate. I think there's
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Speaker 2: more to come from Donald Trump and DNI Tulsi Gabbard
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Speaker 2: when it comes to exposing some truth, especially with voting
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Speaker 2: and the SAVE Act, because the SAVE Act is another
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Speaker 2: one of those things that people are so frustrated with.
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Speaker 2: This doesn't seem like it should be so difficult to
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Speaker 2: bring and get a vote. And now we know that
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Speaker 2: Thune is going to do this, but he's only going
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Speaker 2: to do it to try to show that the Democrats
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Speaker 2: are against something that most Americans are for. The numbers
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Speaker 2: are not even close. It's 80 percent of Americans want
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Speaker 2: to have a SAVE Act or voter ID when you vote,
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Speaker 2: I guess, is really the way it is. And that
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Speaker 2: is what the SAVE Act is. And there's a little
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Speaker 2: more to the SAVE Act. But John Thune has been
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Speaker 2: sitting on this for a very long time, for a year.
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Speaker 2: And here we are bumping up against an election. Even
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Speaker 2: if it were passed tomorrow, it probably would never make
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Speaker 2: a difference in this midterm. Maybe it would in 28,
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Speaker 2: but probably by 2030.
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Speaker 3: It's exposed a very fatal flaw to Donald Trump, in
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Speaker 3: my opinion, is his endorsements. He is in a box
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Speaker 3: right now between a, let's call him a MAGA candidate,
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Speaker 3: make America first or America first candidate and the governor
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Speaker 3: and AG Paxton from Texas versus a longtime Rhino who
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Speaker 3: wants another six years, which would make it a total
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Speaker 3: of 30 in the Senate, Cornyn. And what you have,
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Speaker 3: in my opinion, is obstruction from these Republicans, these establishment types,
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Speaker 3: these Mitch McConnell, John Thune types. And by the way,
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Speaker 3: The last time a Senate that lost a reelection was
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Speaker 3: from South Dakota as well, Tom Daschle. So things kind
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Speaker 3: of walking on thin ice here by being McConnell's water carrier,
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Speaker 3: as they say. And so a handful of others won't
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Speaker 3: pass the SAVE Act.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So if they were to say, let's blow up the filibuster,
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Speaker 3: like everybody says, and get that magic 50 votes plus
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Speaker 3: the vice president to break the votes, because you've got
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Speaker 3: your Susan Collins's, you've got your Lisa Murkowski's, you've got
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Speaker 3: your Lindsey Graham's, you've got your Mitch McConnell's still there
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Speaker 3: and food and down the line. Even Rand Paul has
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Speaker 3: showed himself to be not so MAGA and more libertarian.
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Speaker 3: So I don't trust the Senate for anything. And I
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Speaker 3: think That is going to demoralize the Republican base when
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Speaker 3: it comes to turnout because a lot of these senators
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Speaker 3: who are on the ballot for re-election are not going
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Speaker 3: to drive their people. My senator, Marsha Blackburn, who was
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Speaker 3: the first to endorse Trump, is actually not going to
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Speaker 3: run for re-election. She wants to be governor of the
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Speaker 3: state of Tennessee. And so therefore, what do we get?
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Speaker 3: We get the most conservative state in the country, Alabama.
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Speaker 3: Their senator, Britt, endorses Cornyn. If she goes to D.C.
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Speaker 3: or to, I guess, Mar-a-Lago and convinces Trump to endorse Cornyn,
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Speaker 3: who has an F Liberty score– and by the way,
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Speaker 3: Britt has a 43 Liberty score, which is one point
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Speaker 3: higher than Richard Shelby, who she took over for, who
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Speaker 3: was an establishment-type candidate– All you're going to get are
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Speaker 3: Republicans even madder to say, what's the difference between a
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Speaker 3: Republican and a Democrat?
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Speaker 2: Yeah. And I had John Dennis on the program last week,
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Speaker 2: who is the national chair of the Republican Liberty Caucus.
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Speaker 2: And we talked about the House scores. Next week, he
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Speaker 2: will be on with me to talk about the Senate scores.
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Speaker 2: And one thing people need to understand about the Liberty
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Speaker 2: scores is how they are scored. Because it's almost more
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Speaker 2: libertarian than it would be maybe conservative or Republican. And
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Speaker 2: you get points taken away. For instance, if you look
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Speaker 2: at Paul Gozar and Andy Biggs in the House of Representatives,
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Speaker 2: both of them had 100 last year. And that would
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Speaker 2: have been when Biden was president. The scores came out
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Speaker 2: in the winter of 25. So that was based on 24.
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Speaker 2: And both of them had 100 this year. They were
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Speaker 2: down 30 points because Trump was president. because they voted
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Speaker 2: for things like the Big Beautiful Bill, which was a
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Speaker 2: negative five points if you voted for it, because it
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Speaker 2: added more cost. So according to Liberty, that's what those
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Speaker 2: scores are. But, you know, when you look at this.
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Speaker 3: Well, you're right. And Cindy Hyde-Smith from Mississippi, which is
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Speaker 3: a conservative red state, at least they tell us, she's
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Speaker 3: got an F score. Cornyn has an F score. Thune
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Speaker 3: has an F score. And when they were deciding who
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Speaker 3: was going to be the majority leader, they had Scott
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Speaker 3: from Florida, and he was at least a B. So
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Speaker 3: they didn't go with him, and Trump endorsed Cornyn. And
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Speaker 3: he's endorsed Graham from South Carolina three times. And look
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Speaker 3: what he's done to him when it comes to Ukraine.
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Speaker 3: He doesn't have his back. Rand Paul doesn't have his
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Speaker 3: back in Venezuela. All of these things that Trump's trying
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Speaker 3: to do. Oh, they haven't passed a single, they won't
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Speaker 3: even go on recess to give Trump any of his appointments.
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Speaker 3: He's had zero. No president in our lifetime has ever
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Speaker 3: had zero appointments approved. So the whole job of the
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Speaker 3: Senate is to advise and consent. They've done a lot
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Speaker 3: of advising. Go ahead and get into Ukraine. Go ahead and,
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Speaker 3: you know, I guess back Qatar over Israel. I don't
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Speaker 3: know what that's all about. But they won't consent to
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Speaker 3: any of his appointments. We've had a few from TV,
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Speaker 3: like Hegseth and Piro, you know, the ones that are
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Speaker 3: household names. But the real ones that do the work,
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Speaker 3: they won't do, like Eagled Martin. They just got rid
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Speaker 3: of him. So The Senate's got a real, real problem,
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Speaker 3: in my opinion, because we've never seen a Republican Party
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Speaker 3: ignore the head of their party as much as they
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Speaker 3: do in the Senate right now. Do you agree with that?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. But let's get back at 30,000 feet
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Speaker 2: real quick. I want your opinion. Why do you think
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Speaker 2: turnout for the Republicans has been so bad in every
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Speaker 2: one of these races?
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Speaker 3: Disillusionment. I got to believe it's disillusionment. I mean, Trump
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Speaker 3: said that he was going to make an endorsement soon
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Speaker 3: in the Texas Senate runoff between Paxton and Cornyn. Well,
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Speaker 3: that's an illustration right there of, will he give Cornyn
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Speaker 3: the nod? We don't like that. He's not for us.
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Speaker 3: Will he give Paxton the nod? Oh, okay. Now we
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Speaker 3: can kind of get back to business because you could
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Speaker 3: go down the list of the ones that he has endorsed.
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Speaker 3: And I gave you the example of Cindy Hyde-Smith and
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Speaker 3: Katie Britt. And, you know, even Mike Lee was today
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Speaker 3: saying that all J.D. Vance has to do is walk
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Speaker 3: into the Senate, sit down and say, I'm the leader
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Speaker 3: of the Senate. You are not. Soon. Do as I say.
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Speaker 3: They don't do it. And of course, you've got Rubio,
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Speaker 3: who was a senator, and you've got J.D. Vance, who
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Speaker 3: was a senator. America has a really bad track record
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Speaker 3: of having the Senate be the leaders, but the little
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Speaker 3: unknown key to American politics is the Senate runs the show.
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Speaker 3: They're the ones that have always been either the obstructionist
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Speaker 3: or the go along to get alongs that got us
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Speaker 3: into this mess in the first place.
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Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned Susan Collins. Let's look at that race
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Speaker 2: real quick right now in the polls. And I know people,
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Speaker 2: they say polls suck. They're not any good, but they're
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Speaker 2: all we have. And I think they do show a trend,
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Speaker 2: and you can get something from it. Susan Collins is
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Speaker 2: neck and neck with one of the Democrats, and the
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Speaker 2: other one, she is losing by four points right now.
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Speaker 2: So if a Democrat wins, it's going to be a
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Speaker 2: socialist from the state of Maine, and that's what you're
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Speaker 2: going to get. Right now, Susan Collins votes with you
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Speaker 2: 60% of the time. Your alternative right now is going
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Speaker 2: to be someone that votes with you absolutely none. And
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Speaker 2: sometimes that goes into it, and when you look at
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Speaker 2: Texas and you bring that into it, John Cornyn, When
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Speaker 2: you look at his poll numbers against Tallarico, who just
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Speaker 2: beat Jasmine Crockett, Tallarico's a good candidate. You know, you
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Speaker 2: can say what you want to about him. Everybody can.
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Speaker 2: He has a past that's very interesting people should look into.
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Speaker 2: but he's polished. He's like a ma'am Donnie. He can
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Speaker 2: fool people. And if you lose the moderate, if you
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Speaker 2: have Ken Paxton, I think Ken Paxton maybe loses that
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Speaker 2: moderate vote. And if you look at the polls head
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Speaker 2: to head, Paxton and Tallarico, it's a toss up. John
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Speaker 2: Cornyn beats him by five or six points. I think
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Speaker 2: that's the box that Donald Trump is in. And at
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Speaker 2: the same time, that also puts him further in the
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Speaker 2: box with his base that wants Paxton. Does that make sense?
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Speaker 3: Well, that Yes, and that was the point I was
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Speaker 3: trying to make is that we've had Trump as the
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Speaker 3: leader of the Republican Party for 11 years, and he's
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Speaker 3: had a lot of endorsements. I got a list of
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Speaker 3: them right here in front of me. And what you
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Speaker 3: get is go-alongs to get-alongs because they basically got rid
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Speaker 3: of the moral compass that Barry Goldwater had given us
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Speaker 3: and Ronald Reagan had won two terms on. And we
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Speaker 3: get Lisa Murkowski, who has an F, Bill Cassidy in Louisiana,
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Speaker 3: who has an F, Susan Collins, who you mentioned, extremely low, 5%.
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Speaker 3: That's a Democrat. So it doesn't really matter if a
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Speaker 3: Democrat beats her as an incumbent. You're going to be
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Speaker 3: working with the same thing. She doesn't vote with him ever.
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Speaker 3: Mitt Romney was bad. John Cornyn, we just talked about.
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Speaker 3: He's a 15%. He votes with Trump 15% of the time,
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Speaker 3: and that isn't that much because they don't let him
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Speaker 3: vote on anything. So the base is Tom Tillis, who's
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Speaker 3: not running for re-election. He's an F. Chuck Grassley has
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Speaker 3: been there since Eisenhower. From Iowa, he's a 17. And
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Speaker 3: Joni Ernst, a very red state. Iowa is a 20% F.
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Speaker 3: So there's others, too. Shelley Moore Capito, West Virginia. West
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Speaker 3: Virginia is an interesting situation. I have the stats here somewhere. 93,
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Speaker 3: I wrote it down for this card, 91 Republicans to
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Speaker 3: 9 West Virginians in the House. Everyone is a pro-gun
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Speaker 3: person on the right, right? I mean, that's kind of
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Speaker 3: how you win if you're pro-life on the left and
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Speaker 3: you can't let guns, you're all about gun rights on
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Speaker 3: the right. Only 17 of those Republicans voted yes to
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Speaker 3: stripping out a red flag law from a major bill
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Speaker 3: that was protecting due process and firearm confiscation, right? That
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Speaker 3: wasn't 1856, that was today. So that's my concern, is
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Speaker 3: that we have these Trump-endorsed let's just call them rhinos
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Speaker 3: or establishment types, that vote with the Democrats more than
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Speaker 3: they ever do the Republicans. And so even if apathy
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Speaker 3: were to take place, or to your question, they just
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Speaker 3: don't turn out because they say, what's the point? That's why.
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Speaker 3: Because they think they're putting Republicans in there that agree
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Speaker 3: with them.
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Speaker 1: They're not.
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Speaker 3: They're getting Democrats with an R next to their name.
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Speaker 2: You mentioned earlier that this is not the same Republican
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Speaker 2: Party that we used to have. It's not the one
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Speaker 2: that you grew up with. What is that Republican Party?
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Speaker 2: What does the party look like that you grew up
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Speaker 2: with compared to today? Are you a Reagan Republican? Is
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Speaker 2: that what you look at?
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Speaker 1: Yes, yes.
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Speaker 3: I'm a Reagan, Goldwater Republican in my conscience. I probably
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Speaker 3: would have been more Reagan than Reagan himself. We're both
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Speaker 3: from California, but he made some huge mistakes, whether it
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Speaker 3: be pro-life legislation that led to what became Roe versus
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Speaker 3: Wade and didn't really handle the students that well, although
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Speaker 3: I did like the toughness. I was there during that time. So,
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Speaker 3: what that's my my ballast and you have to have
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Speaker 3: that if you're going to run for office because when
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Speaker 3: you don't you become a hypocrite and that's what people
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Speaker 3: hate the most about politicians is their hypocrisy sometimes that
17:30
Speaker 3: will look like deal making like if you're going to
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Speaker 3: say well we got a broker a nuclear deal with
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Speaker 3: uh moscow so we're going to have to you know
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Speaker 3: give a little take a little you're not going to
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Speaker 3: like at all but when you're talking about like uh
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Speaker 3: textbooks in schools or fluoride in the water or these
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Speaker 3: type of things that should be grounded in principle When
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Speaker 3: you start waffling like this, you don't look like a
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Speaker 3: Republican anymore. You start looking like a Democrat. And so
17:55
Speaker 3: when you have a Democrat, so when you have a
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Speaker 3: Democrat in sheep's clothing who's really Republican, it isn't good.
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Speaker 3: And I can give you examples of this. I mean,
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Speaker 3: Montana is the only state where American-born populations increased more
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Speaker 3: than foreign-born between 1980 and 2025. So we call that
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Speaker 3: the replacement migration, and it is definitely displacement of Americans,
18:22
Speaker 3: but you can see it's happening in the large employers
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Speaker 3: and their H-1B visa hiring from India. That's not racism.
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Speaker 3: That's demographics of voters. In India, they have a caste system.
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Speaker 3: In America, we don't. If you give a voter a
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Speaker 3: ballot and say, vote your conscience, you don't have Reagan, Goldwater,
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Speaker 3: if you've ever even heard of them. ballast in your
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Speaker 3: principles on who you vote for. You're going to vote
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Speaker 3: for the one who either helps you the most in business,
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Speaker 3: thinks like you, that there's a caste system, some people
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Speaker 3: are superior to others. I don't know what you ultimately
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Speaker 3: settle on, but when you're given a choice in a
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Speaker 3: two-party system, it certainly doesn't look like a conservative Republican.
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Speaker 3: And that's why I always say, in D.C., it's really
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Speaker 3: 85% have a vote that you can get away with
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Speaker 3: where it doesn't matter, it's not going to win anyway,
19:18
Speaker 3: because if it was a really close vote, 50-50, Rand
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Speaker 3: Paul would go screaming for the hills. He doesn't want
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Speaker 3: his stuff actually passed, is what I'm talking about. So
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Speaker 3: we don't have a center-right country in D.C. politics. We
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Speaker 3: have a center-right country in the voters, and they are
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Speaker 3: disillusioned because they don't get to have their vote represented
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Speaker 3: when they send people to DC who they think are Republicans.
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Speaker 2: We're right up against the break, but before we get there,
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Speaker 2: we've spent most of this first segment on the Senate.
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Speaker 2: What do you think? I've been saying for a months
19:50
Speaker 2: that it's really too early to make predictions, and I
19:52
Speaker 2: also want people to know this. I'm not blackpilling anybody.
19:57
Speaker 2: I'm not doing that. That's not the purpose. It's to
19:59
Speaker 2: heed a warning that if we don't get out and
20:02
Speaker 2: we don't go vote, then we're going to lose the House,
20:05
Speaker 2: I think, for sure. But a lot can happen between
20:08
Speaker 2: now and November. A lot can happen in politics, and
20:11
Speaker 2: when it does, it can change things drastically. But I'm
20:14
Speaker 2: going to ask you, if you had to say today,
20:16
Speaker 2: do the Republicans lose the Senate in this upcoming November
20:21
Speaker 2: midterm election?
20:24
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to talk to you about more after
20:25
Speaker 3: the break, but yes, because if the economy continues down
20:31
Speaker 3: this path of negativity with all of these layoffs from
20:34
Speaker 3: tech that they're blaming on AI, but it's really H-1B
20:38
Speaker 3: swapping out for hype, jobs that is going to affect
20:42
Speaker 3: the voter big time and they're going to blame the
20:44
Speaker 3: people in power so they're going to blame trump number
20:46
Speaker 3: one he's a republican number two and then the republicans
20:49
Speaker 3: will will suffer for it so even if they are
20:51
Speaker 3: relatively good especially if they're these in name only anyway
20:57
Speaker 3: so like in the case of texas why not let
21:00
Speaker 3: talarico go he's got gonna have the same voting record
21:02
Speaker 3: as our guy now anyway and then i think ted
21:05
Speaker 3: cruz will just balance it out unlike in alabama where
21:09
Speaker 3: Tuberville is stepping down to run for governor, just like
21:12
Speaker 3: in Tennessee. So they'll have to have a replacement. And
21:15
Speaker 3: that one could be a Brit and another Rhino, if
21:20
Speaker 3: that was the case, because their governor, Kay Ivey, who
21:23
Speaker 3: knows who she'll pick. And you end up with two
21:28
Speaker 3: Democrats running the most conservative state in the country. And
21:33
Speaker 3: they went for Trump by 40%.
21:35
Speaker 2: Let's take a break right here. We're going to come back,
21:37
Speaker 2: talk more about the midterm elections, what we can do
21:39
Speaker 2: about it, what we should do about it, because things
21:42
Speaker 2: right now just aren't really looking really good. We're going
21:44
Speaker 2: to get into the house. It's coming up right after
21:47
Speaker 2: the break.
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22:57
Speaker 2: much for being with us tonight and every night if
22:59
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23:01
Speaker 2: the podcast, thank you so much for doing that. We're
23:04
Speaker 2: visiting with Steve Abramowitz from theheartlandjournal.com and podcast. You can
23:10
Speaker 2: find his work at theheartlandjournal.com and you can also find
23:13
Speaker 2: it on YouTube. We talked about the Senate there, and
23:16
Speaker 2: I'm not going to make any prediction. Actually, you know what? Yeah,
23:19
Speaker 2: I will. If you put a gun to my head
23:21
Speaker 2: right now, I would say that the Republicans are going
23:24
Speaker 2: to hang on to the Senate in November. But like
23:26
Speaker 2: I said, there's a lot that can happen between now
23:28
Speaker 2: and then. Let's take a look at the House, though,
23:30
Speaker 2: because when it comes to the House, typically whoever is
23:34
Speaker 2: in power, they lose on average about 25 seats, 26,
23:37
Speaker 2: I believe. And that's over the last 100 years. That's
23:41
Speaker 2: a lot of history. And that's the average. And then
23:44
Speaker 2: When a president's approval rating is 42%, like Donald Trump's is,
23:48
Speaker 2: it's hovering there in an aggregate, which is very similar
23:52
Speaker 2: to Ronald Reagan. We were just talking about Ronald Reagan.
23:54
Speaker 2: I want to bring up some parallels with those two
23:57
Speaker 2: here in a few minutes. We could see very similar
24:01
Speaker 2: to what Ronald Reagan had in 1982 is losing 35 seats.
24:05
Speaker 2: And if you do that, Hakeem Jeffries will be the
24:08
Speaker 2: speaker and then Donald Trump will start getting impeachments. And
24:11
Speaker 2: here's something else I would say that coming off that
24:15
Speaker 2: conversation about the Senate and the rhinos. I wouldn't put
24:18
Speaker 2: it past some Republican senators to get to a point
24:21
Speaker 2: to want to remove Donald Trump. A year, two years
24:25
Speaker 2: down the road, they just get tired of it. You're
24:27
Speaker 2: 28th coming up. You have a presidential election. They're trying
24:30
Speaker 2: to hang on to their seats. There's no telling what
24:32
Speaker 2: could happen then. That's what we're up against, and we
24:35
Speaker 2: have to be honest about this. We have to have
24:37
Speaker 2: a real conversation, and we have to be willing to say,
24:41
Speaker 2: this is where we are. We've got to change this.
24:43
Speaker 2: You see Donald Trump now trying to get out and
24:45
Speaker 2: talk about the economy. He was in, where, in Ohio yesterday.
24:49
Speaker 2: So he is trying to do that. They're trying to
24:52
Speaker 2: put him out there. That is their big Susie Wiles,
24:55
Speaker 2: that's what she says they're going to do is get
24:56
Speaker 2: him out on the campaign trail. And he's great at
24:59
Speaker 2: doing rallies. Everybody loves the rallies. But does it really
25:02
Speaker 2: make a difference when you're talking about small local races,
25:06
Speaker 2: which is what the House of Representatives race is? Ronald
25:09
Speaker 2: Reagan lost to 35. And I say the parallels are
25:11
Speaker 2: similar between him and Donald Trump this time because both
25:14
Speaker 2: of them are following up a terrible president. Jimmy Carter,
25:18
Speaker 2: potentially the worst ever. I think Joe Biden probably is.
25:21
Speaker 2: Between the both of them, you have the highest inflation,
25:24
Speaker 2: the highest gas prices. You have problems going on around
25:27
Speaker 2: the world. And Ronald Reagan came in in 1980. He
25:31
Speaker 2: started putting policies in place, deregulation in businesses and corporations.
25:37
Speaker 2: And the people, the American people, did not feel it
25:41
Speaker 2: at the kitchen table by the time the 82 election
25:43
Speaker 2: came up. As a result, he lost 36 seats. By
25:47
Speaker 2: the way, Ronald Reagan, he picked up 35 House seats,
25:50
Speaker 2: but he was still such a deficit. It was 242 Democrats,
25:55
Speaker 2: even though they just lost 35 seats in 1980. So
25:59
Speaker 2: here we come into this year, Donald Trump following up
26:03
Speaker 2: the highest gas prices ever. The highest inflation since Jimmy Carter.
26:07
Speaker 2: World's problems in Gaza and Ukraine and Russia. Donald Trump's
26:12
Speaker 2: trying to clean all of that up. He's changed things
26:14
Speaker 2: in regulations. But have the American people felt it yet
26:18
Speaker 2: at the kitchen table? I don't think they have. That
26:21
Speaker 2: brings in the affordability issue. So as a result, I
26:24
Speaker 2: see that parallel, and you hear a lot of people,
26:27
Speaker 2: and the Democrats now are focusing in on 44 key
26:32
Speaker 2: races in the House of Representatives. The House usually comes
26:35
Speaker 2: down to about 25 toss-ups. The rest of them are
26:38
Speaker 2: pretty solid. You have those on the right that are solid,
26:41
Speaker 2: those on the left that are solid. It comes down
26:43
Speaker 2: to about 25. Those are decided by 5% or less,
26:46
Speaker 2: some of them as few as a few hundred votes. So, Steve,
26:49
Speaker 2: what do you see in the House of Representatives coming
26:52
Speaker 2: up in November?
26:53
Speaker 3: I think they're going to lose it. The worst case
26:56
Speaker 3: scenario for America is a Speaker of the House, Hakeem Jeffries,
27:02
Speaker 3: and a majority leader, Chuck Schumer. I do think that
27:06
Speaker 3: if you look at the senators on the right who
27:10
Speaker 3: have a D- or lower, FD, even in the Cs,
27:16
Speaker 3: you do have to be very afraid that they could
27:18
Speaker 3: vote to remove the guy because they've been obstruction of
27:21
Speaker 3: him ever since. They would much rather work with J.D. Vance,
27:26
Speaker 3: if possible. So you don't want to talk about the Senate,
27:30
Speaker 3: we want to talk about the House. So in particular,
27:32
Speaker 3: I can tell you that the special elections have mostly
27:34
Speaker 3: been along the way of the House, but the retirements
27:38
Speaker 3: on the right have been outsized more than normal. So
27:42
Speaker 3: Reagan had two things going for him. He had a
27:46
Speaker 3: pretty good economy, and we didn't really have– other than
27:49
Speaker 3: the war in Grenada, we didn't have a war. And
27:53
Speaker 3: I guess a third thing, if you really want to
27:54
Speaker 3: look at it, is he had– hadn't been in the
27:58
Speaker 3: majority forever, like 100 years. It was a long time.
28:04
Speaker 2: It was 1954.
28:04
Speaker 3: Yeah. Okay, so 35 years. So until Newt Gingrich showed up,
28:09
Speaker 3: we hadn't even seen what Republican leadership could do in
28:13
Speaker 3: the Congress. And Johnson is no Newt Gingrich. I mean,
28:19
Speaker 3: he was the fifth choice after they got rid of
28:21
Speaker 3: Mitch McConnell, or not Mitch McConnell, Kevin McCarthy, who Trump endorsed,
28:25
Speaker 3: by the way. So.
28:28
Speaker 3: My biggest concern is that if people– not everybody looks
28:31
Speaker 3: at it as closely and on paper as you and I.
28:33
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure of that. So I always try to
28:35
Speaker 3: kind of think of it more in general. And McConnell
28:39
Speaker 3: and Biden left Trump some serious landmines to navigate that
28:45
Speaker 3: I don't see him actually avoiding. First of all is
28:49
Speaker 3: the inflation bomb that was in the big bill that
28:53
Speaker 3: they passed back in the infrastructure bill. They called it
28:56
Speaker 3: the infrastructure bill. That is what we're dealing with to
28:59
Speaker 3: this day. You know, we got steak that costs 45 bucks.
29:03
Speaker 3: We've got, you know, gasoline's actually been pretty good, but
29:06
Speaker 3: we just decided to get into, you know, this war
29:09
Speaker 3: in the Middle East and take in Venezuela.
29:11
Speaker 2: How do you think that's going to affect it? I
29:13
Speaker 2: think that there's a lot of motivation for Donald Trump
29:15
Speaker 2: to end this really quickly. That's the way I see
29:18
Speaker 2: this happening. What does that mean? I know that's a
29:20
Speaker 2: relative term. It's subjective, probably, really quickly, four, five, six weeks.
29:24
Speaker 2: But if you get beyond that, I think the runway is...
29:28
Speaker 2: way too close to the November election. Gas prices in
29:32
Speaker 2: my area, Tampa Bay, Florida, they're up 75 cents to
29:35
Speaker 2: a dollar since this happened, since the Iran thing happened.
29:39
Speaker 2: And a lot of people don't think we should be there.
29:42
Speaker 2: And I think this is going to drag the Republicans
29:45
Speaker 2: down something. And I don't know if that's where you
29:47
Speaker 2: were going with that or not.
29:48
Speaker 3: It's a repeat of Iraq, and it's a repeat of Afghanistan.
29:51
Speaker 3: We are really, really good at lightning, or what used
29:55
Speaker 3: to be called blitzkriegs, where we can win a war
29:59
Speaker 3: by name only in 24 to 48 hours. We can
30:02
Speaker 3: drop bombs and precision right down the rat hole and, boom,
30:06
Speaker 3: kill the whole nuclear program overnight.
30:08
Speaker 2: We can do that.
30:09
Speaker 3: Where we're really, really bad and where we've spent a
30:12
Speaker 3: lot of money is the peace. And that's what I
30:15
Speaker 3: see happening because Iran, all the targets are hit. Even
30:18
Speaker 3: Trump has said it. They got rid of all the
30:20
Speaker 3: Navy so they can't block the Straits of Hormuz. They
30:22
Speaker 3: can still send surface to ship missiles and drop mines
30:26
Speaker 3: if they want to, but then they'll be messing with
30:28
Speaker 3: China and Russia as well if they do the mines.
30:30
Speaker 3: They probably won't do that. And they can't do the
30:32
Speaker 3: drones because we have air superiority. So that's over. So
30:36
Speaker 3: now what? Now we have to get invested in this
30:39
Speaker 3: whole nation-building thing and this regime change thing, just like
30:42
Speaker 3: we did in Iraq, where you end up getting somebody
30:44
Speaker 3: worse than you had before. Or in Syria, I guess,
30:47
Speaker 3: is really worse than you had before. Iraq, Saddam was
30:50
Speaker 3: a pretty bad guy. But we spent a trillion dollars
30:53
Speaker 3: in there. So what that means is inflation, higher oil prices,
30:59
Speaker 3: because you've got to fly these airplanes. And if you
31:03
Speaker 3: really wanted to be strategic— You drop those bombs in
31:07
Speaker 3: October or September where you can actually say, hey, we're
31:12
Speaker 3: doing great. We're winning the war. Not nine months from
31:15
Speaker 3: now when everybody's going to be like, this is dragging
31:17
Speaker 3: on forever. What are you doing? Now there's suicide bombing
31:20
Speaker 3: in Manhattan, God forbid. So I personally think that he
31:25
Speaker 3: did what most civilian presidents do. He went in for
31:28
Speaker 3: the big bang, shock and awe, like we did in Baghdad,
31:32
Speaker 3: won the war real quick, flew the airplane onto the
31:36
Speaker 3: aircraft carrier and said, mission accomplished, but little did we know,
31:39
Speaker 3: we're still there 20 years later. That's my fear about Iran,
31:43
Speaker 3: because it's a 90 million person country versus Iraq, which
31:49
Speaker 3: was much smaller, and they got water problems. So now
31:54
Speaker 3: we got to get invested in helping the peace, making
31:57
Speaker 3: sure that their infrastructure is intact that we just blew up.
32:00
Speaker 3: It could become a quagmire of the State Department more
32:04
Speaker 3: so than the War Department.
32:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's going to be over pretty quickly.
32:08
Speaker 2: I really do. I believe it's going to.
32:10
Speaker 3: But will we leave or will we open a base?
32:12
Speaker 2: No, I don't think we'll open a base. I don't
32:14
Speaker 2: see that. I think that you have the Kurds over
32:16
Speaker 2: there that it sounds like they're ready to help. So
32:20
Speaker 2: they've helped in Iraq, and I think that they would
32:22
Speaker 2: be perfect to help in Iran. I just don't see
32:25
Speaker 2: us being there for very long. I think it's going
32:28
Speaker 2: to be over quick. I think Donald Trump realizes, getting
32:30
Speaker 2: back to what our conversation about is about here is
32:33
Speaker 2: the midterms. I think he knows that. He realizes this.
32:37
Speaker 2: And so I think it's going to be over pretty quickly.
32:40
Speaker 2: We're going to get back here and really pay attention
32:43
Speaker 2: to the domestic side of things as we get into
32:47
Speaker 2: the election. I think that's what Donald Trump.
32:48
Speaker 3: Is going to do. Have you noticed that he hasn't
32:50
Speaker 3: done what he did in his first term where he
32:52
Speaker 3: went out and campaigned with a lot of the candidates that...
32:58
Speaker 3: ended up being successful and he was bragging about his
33:01
Speaker 3: batting average and his track record. He's not doing that
33:05
Speaker 3: this time. And I don't think it's necessarily because the voters, uh,
33:09
Speaker 3: like in Montana that went overwhelming for him, don't want
33:12
Speaker 3: him there. I think it may be the candidates really
33:15
Speaker 3: haven't asked him to come.
33:18
Speaker 2: Well, and it's still early too. You still have primaries
33:21
Speaker 2: like Cornyn and Paxton that we were talking about earlier.
33:25
Speaker 2: We don't know who the candidate is going to be.
33:27
Speaker 3: So, True, but with the special elections, we did. Like
33:31
Speaker 3: right here in Tennessee, we had a special election for
33:33
Speaker 3: Congress because Mark Green resigned.
33:36
Speaker 2: Let's talk about that one because that's one that I
33:39
Speaker 2: think shows exactly what I'm talking about. That was in 2020.
33:44
Speaker 2: It was about a 40-point race. It went down to 34.
33:46
Speaker 2: It kept going down 22%. And this recent election in December,
33:52
Speaker 2: it was down to 708 points. And so that's sort
33:56
Speaker 2: of the story that we're seeing everywhere, regardless of where
34:00
Speaker 2: it is. Everybody points to New Jersey and Virginia, and
34:02
Speaker 2: they say it's a Democrat state. Well, Glenn Youngkin just
34:04
Speaker 2: won that state four years ago, and Winsome Sears lost
34:07
Speaker 2: it by 15 or 16. And if you dig into
34:10
Speaker 2: the numbers, there are Republicans that are not going to vote.
34:14
Speaker 2: And that's what we need to focus on. That's what
34:17
Speaker 2: I want to talk about. How are we going to
34:19
Speaker 2: get people to understand how important it is for people
34:22
Speaker 2: to actually vote? And we can sit around and we
34:24
Speaker 2: can blame it on this or blame it on that.
34:26
Speaker 2: But if we don't get out there and vote, then
34:28
Speaker 2: what we talked about earlier, Donald Trump being impeached, that's
34:31
Speaker 2: going to be our life for two years. And they'll
34:34
Speaker 2: impeach him once, they'll twice or three times. It's just
34:37
Speaker 2: going to be a way of life. And I think
34:40
Speaker 2: American people are.
34:41
Speaker 3: Tired of it. I do too. And they're exhausted. As
34:44
Speaker 3: a matter of fact, we have voter exhaustion and I
34:46
Speaker 3: call it Trump complacency syndrome. You know, they talk about
34:49
Speaker 3: Trump derangement syndrome. I think Republicans have Trump complacency syndrome.
34:54
Speaker 3: They really sit home on their hands and say, it's okay,
34:56
Speaker 3: Trump's back in office. We got rid of that Biden guy.
35:00
Speaker 3: But what happens is that for 20 years when I
35:03
Speaker 3: lived in the state of Washington, I tried to do
35:05
Speaker 3: a very simple thing, I thought, move the needle from
35:08
Speaker 3: no votes and really no registrations, about 25% registered, of
35:14
Speaker 3: Christians to the polls. And they wouldn't do it. They
35:19
Speaker 3: could have the entire trajectory of that state that has
35:21
Speaker 3: completely fallen off the map. Illegal property or income tax
35:26
Speaker 3: are going to impose. They're going to let illegals be
35:29
Speaker 3: police officers and prosecutors. You don't have to pass the
35:31
Speaker 3: bar exam to get a law degree. They have got
35:34
Speaker 3: full North Korea over there. Never go into full North
35:37
Speaker 3: Korea if you're a democracy. And They could have avoided that,
35:43
Speaker 3: but you couldn't get 75% or even just closer to
35:46
Speaker 3: 50% of the Christians to register who would be the
35:49
Speaker 3: natural constituency for Republicans. The second one was hunters. They
35:55
Speaker 3: are the ones who have the most to lose if
35:57
Speaker 3: the gun rights are taken away and you couldn't get
35:59
Speaker 3: them to register or vote. Even register, not just be
36:03
Speaker 3: registered and just not vote, just not even bother with
36:05
Speaker 3: the process.
36:06
Speaker 2: If you look at the NRA.
36:10
Speaker 2: The majority of them are not even registered to vote,
36:14
Speaker 2: and I have a tactic for churches as well. I
36:16
Speaker 2: shared it with the RNC, the chair of the RNC,
36:20
Speaker 2: and unfortunately, he just said that churches are important. That
36:23
Speaker 2: would be Joe Gruters. That was his response. This is
36:26
Speaker 2: a tried and true method.
36:28
Speaker 3: Well, the Democrats have been using it, even when it's illegal.
36:32
Speaker 3: They go to the churches, the A & M churches,
36:34
Speaker 3: and they rally up the black vote. And they've had
36:39
Speaker 3: a very rock solid success at that for a long time.
36:43
Speaker 3: Trump was able to break that a little bit, but
36:46
Speaker 3: what are we going to do when he's gone? I
36:48
Speaker 3: don't see Thune or Speaker Johnson being the type of
36:51
Speaker 3: leaders that are going to bring young African Americans to
36:56
Speaker 3: the party or even young Hispanics, which Trump was able
36:58
Speaker 3: to do, or by the way, young Iranians in Southern California.
37:03
Speaker 3: Trump was very successful in this. They actually were dancing
37:06
Speaker 3: in the streets after this war. So he's doing what
37:09
Speaker 3: I think he needs to do as president, but he's
37:12
Speaker 3: not on the ballot. It's his workforce. It's his frontline troops,
37:18
Speaker 3: the Republicans and the Congress and Senate that aren't doing
37:23
Speaker 3: what needs to be done. We'll give the Congress credit.
37:27
Speaker 3: They have passed some stuff and sent it over to
37:29
Speaker 3: the Senate, but the Senate is where it has gone
37:31
Speaker 3: to die. So my hope is that they will actually
37:37
Speaker 3: have a big push between now and November to pass
37:40
Speaker 3: these things in the Senate to give their friends in
37:43
Speaker 3: the Congress a reason to go back home to raise
37:47
Speaker 3: money to say, hey, We passed the SAVE Act. Hey,
37:51
Speaker 3: we stopped giving money to the Taliban. Hey, we did
37:54
Speaker 3: an infrastructure bill. Hey, TSA is back open again, by
37:58
Speaker 3: the way, which isn't right now. They won't have a
38:00
Speaker 3: four-hour long wait for spring break and see and blame
38:05
Speaker 3: the president. But they're not, right? So if they start
38:08
Speaker 3: doing those things, yes, maybe they could hold the Senate
38:11
Speaker 3: and lose less than historically normal in the midterms.
38:16
Speaker 2: Let's listen to this this is a cnn pollster you
38:18
Speaker 2: probably have seen videos of him before maybe heard him
38:21
Speaker 2: i think he's pretty good he's usually pretty well on
38:23
Speaker 2: the number but listen to this there's.
38:26
Speaker 3: Going to be suffering down ballot for republicans and and
38:29
Speaker 3: and and here's the other thing that i will not
38:31
Speaker 3: it's not just the house that's in trouble with the
38:34
Speaker 3: senate as.
38:35
Speaker 2: Well and again i'm not black pilling anybody i want
38:39
Speaker 2: you to understand that i support donald trump i want
38:41
Speaker 2: the republicans to win That's not the way things look today.
38:46
Speaker 2: And if things don't change, if we don't understand that
38:49
Speaker 2: we have to get busy, we have to get to work,
38:51
Speaker 2: we have to do it now, then this is going
38:53
Speaker 2: to be our future. We're going to lose the Senate
38:56
Speaker 2: and the House. Donald Trump is going to be impeached
38:58
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39:57
Speaker 2: with Booker Sky. Great to have you along with us.
39:59
Speaker 2: And Steve Abramowitz is here. Steve, talk about theheartlandjournal.com real quick.
40:05
Speaker 2: Talk about your podcast and your platform as well. You
40:08
Speaker 2: did earlier, you were talking about 2.7 million people you
40:11
Speaker 2: guys reach with theheartlandjournal.com.
40:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, 70,000 emails a day and counting and growing. We
40:18
Speaker 3: are thrilled to have you and be able to disperse
40:21
Speaker 3: your content far and wide because it's well-deserved. You're a
40:26
Speaker 3: very articulate, smart dude. And yeah, the Heartland Journal, we're
40:30
Speaker 3: going to have our second anniversary on April 1st. I'll
40:35
Speaker 3: actually be doing a little celebration hosting the Yaffe Live
40:39
Speaker 3: show on that day. So call in and say great.
40:43
Speaker 3: But yeah, we dedicated it to voices in the heartland
40:46
Speaker 3: that have not been treated very well in this cancel
40:51
Speaker 3: culture era the last decade or so during Trump, basically.
40:55
Speaker 3: We all got treated like he did. And so, uh,
40:58
Speaker 3: you know, the podcast we've had J six folks and
41:02
Speaker 3: FBI whistleblowers and doctors who were lost their license, um,
41:07
Speaker 3: or worse. And, um, the ability and authors who literally
41:12
Speaker 3: just cannot crack the mainstream voices, but then ultimately they
41:15
Speaker 3: do like Riley Gaines, who, you know, we caught her
41:18
Speaker 3: early and she has become quite a force out there in, um,
41:22
Speaker 3: in the culture basically by, um, speaking out and speaking
41:27
Speaker 3: common sense. And so we wanted to be the place
41:29
Speaker 3: for the heartland of America's common sense discussions to be heard.
41:34
Speaker 2: Steve, one of the things that has frustrated me a
41:36
Speaker 2: little bit with the Trump administration and Congress for that
41:40
Speaker 2: matter is when Doge came in, they found all of
41:44
Speaker 2: this corruption and all of this and it was billions
41:47
Speaker 2: and billions of dollars, and I think if you read
41:49
Speaker 2: into it, I've researched it, I don't know if you have,
41:52
Speaker 2: that the billions and billions that Elon Musk was talking
41:55
Speaker 2: about probably wasn't as much as what he was talking about. However,
41:59
Speaker 2: we all know that there's waste and corruption in government
42:02
Speaker 2: and in the House, and these things become our laws,
42:06
Speaker 2: and we waste money. We all know that. Well, one
42:09
Speaker 2: way to get the money back that doesn't take nuking
42:12
Speaker 2: the filibuster, and it only takes 51 votes in the Senate...
42:16
Speaker 2: is with rescission. We had one bill of rescission was $ 9. 2 billion.
42:22
Speaker 2: That was what took out the NPR and public broadcasting.
42:27
Speaker 2: If you remember that, that was in May of 2025.
42:31
Speaker 2: We were told at that time that there were going
42:33
Speaker 2: to be many more coming. We haven't seen any. And
42:36
Speaker 2: that's pretty frustrating because I want to see the deficit down.
42:39
Speaker 2: I want to see the waste gone. I want to
42:41
Speaker 2: see the spending gone. Why is it? Why do you
42:44
Speaker 2: think it is that We haven't seen any more rescissions
42:47
Speaker 2: from that 1974 impoundment act.
42:51
Speaker 3: One man's waste, fraud, and abuse is another man or
42:54
Speaker 3: woman in the Senate's constituency. I mean, that's the tradition.
42:58
Speaker 3: What we're really talking about is reducing from Biden era
43:03
Speaker 3: spending levels, from COVID era spending levels. They don't want
43:06
Speaker 3: to do that because anytime you cut something, you're making
43:09
Speaker 3: somebody upset that voted for you or put you in
43:11
Speaker 3: power because they need that money or want that money.
43:14
Speaker 3: And so the doge was heartbreaking, but it was phenomenal
43:20
Speaker 3: because it exposed the fact that there are about 10,000
43:23
Speaker 3: NGOs operating in America every day, all the time, moving
43:28
Speaker 3: money around between themselves and not actually getting down to
43:31
Speaker 3: the people that they're supposed to help at the bottom.
43:34
Speaker 3: And so you see this in Minnesota with autism or
43:37
Speaker 3: with the food situation, or in California now we're seeing
43:40
Speaker 3: with hospice and all the rest. And so we've exposed
43:44
Speaker 3: He had a chance to vote on it, and they said, yeah,
43:47
Speaker 3: we'll send you some more money for that. So that's
43:49
Speaker 3: the heartbreak, is that, well, thank you, Elon. Remember, there
43:53
Speaker 3: were the images of him sleeping on the floor. and
43:56
Speaker 3: his co-worker, Big Balls, got beat up because he was
44:01
Speaker 3: so effective or whatever. Well, that's heartbreaking because we really
44:05
Speaker 3: were on to something. We could have done some great
44:07
Speaker 3: things and changed this trajectory of this debt. It's going
44:11
Speaker 3: to be $ 40 trillion pretty soon. We pay more in
44:13
Speaker 3: interest on our debt than our national defense at this point.
44:17
Speaker 3: We're getting very close, if not already past, the amount
44:20
Speaker 3: we pay in Social Security. Basically, our entire country is
44:24
Speaker 3: pays taxes to pay the debt on our bonds. And
44:28
Speaker 3: who owns those bonds? Japan, who is suffering the most
44:32
Speaker 3: from $ 100 oil, which it's come off of there, but
44:35
Speaker 3: that was the big one, Japan. So if they end
44:37
Speaker 3: up having to sell that debt in order to pay
44:40
Speaker 3: for imports to run their economy and keep their homes
44:43
Speaker 3: and feed their people, our interest rates are going to
44:46
Speaker 3: go up, which is going to stop our housing growth,
44:48
Speaker 3: which is going to make our cost of living go up.
44:51
Speaker 3: So that's worst case scenario. Trump had a bunch of
44:54
Speaker 3: great plans. Doge would be a great one because it
44:57
Speaker 3: would stop spending, waste, fraud, and abuse. And he had
45:00
Speaker 3: mentioned starting with tips, he was going to not tax
45:05
Speaker 3: tips as a part of a, we're going to increase
45:10
Speaker 3: tariffs and get rid of the income tax. The Senate
45:14
Speaker 3: won't let him do any of it. They even tried,
45:16
Speaker 3: the judges tried to take away the tariff part, even
45:19
Speaker 3: though today they just announced that it was a huge success.
45:22
Speaker 3: including an aluminum factory that's 100% at max capacity in
45:27
Speaker 3: South Carolina, where Lindsey Graham's up for reelection, right now.
45:32
Speaker 3: So it's proven to be an effective thing, but the
45:34
Speaker 3: judges in the Senate and the Congress have not been helpful.
45:37
Speaker 3: So I know that's a long way of answering your question,
45:40
Speaker 3: but those are the pocketbook issues that people are going
45:42
Speaker 3: to look at when it comes time to vote and say, well,
45:44
Speaker 3: the Republican didn't help me. Maybe the Democrat will. And
45:47
Speaker 3: if he won't, if I end up on welfare, at
45:49
Speaker 3: least I know they're going to keep those checks going
45:51
Speaker 3: because they'll even do it for people from Somalia or
45:53
Speaker 3: India who are fraudulently taking the social security. Why wouldn't
45:56
Speaker 3: they do it for me? That's the kind of economy
45:59
Speaker 3: we've built after all these years of this venture socialist, capitalist,
46:04
Speaker 3: quasi mix of thing that we've done called America. And yeah,
46:09
Speaker 3: Trump was trying to fix it as an outsider.
46:11
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the rescission though, because with rescission,
46:14
Speaker 2: There has to be a memo that comes from the
46:16
Speaker 2: administration to Congress, and they have 45 days to do
46:20
Speaker 2: new legislation to claw back money. And I'll never forget
46:24
Speaker 2: Kevin Hazard saying, we're just getting started. A lot more
46:28
Speaker 2: are coming. And there hasn't been one more memo coming
46:31
Speaker 2: from the administration to bring back that money. And I think,
46:34
Speaker 2: you know, Doge was a great thing. But when nothing
46:37
Speaker 2: is followed through, then I think that has an effect
46:41
Speaker 2: on Republicans showing up and voting. We talked about that
46:44
Speaker 2: in the first segment.
46:45
Speaker 3: And Chuck Schumer said if they win the gavel back,
46:46
Speaker 3: they're going to put them all back in. So you
46:49
Speaker 3: are damned if you do, damned if you don't. It's
46:51
Speaker 3: like shining a flashlight in a dark room and you
46:53
Speaker 3: see the cockroaches scurry, but you don't spray them. You're
46:57
Speaker 3: just like, well, there's cockroaches in there. What are you
46:58
Speaker 3: going to do? Just leave it alone. So they didn't
47:01
Speaker 3: do the second step, which is, like I said, get
47:04
Speaker 3: rid of the income tax. get rid of grocery taxes
47:07
Speaker 3: in places like Tennessee that make it easier on people
47:09
Speaker 3: who are suffering from inflation. They didn't do all the
47:12
Speaker 3: economic package. It was like when George Bush senior had
47:16
Speaker 3: his 13 points of light. Well, if they'd only done
47:19
Speaker 3: one of them and none of the others, you didn't
47:21
Speaker 3: really accomplish much in your presidency. Did you? That's what's
47:24
Speaker 3: happening with Trump. They're running out the clock on his presidency.
47:27
Speaker 3: So make America first is going to go the way
47:30
Speaker 3: the tea party it's it's, You have to have these
47:34
Speaker 3: guys codify this stuff in legislation, and they haven't done anything.
47:38
Speaker 3: You're absolutely right. At least not anything that isn't symbolic.
47:42
Speaker 3: Because like I said, if the House passes a bill,
47:45
Speaker 3: that's great. They get to go home and say, reelect me,
47:47
Speaker 3: and I'll pass more bills like that. But if the
47:50
Speaker 3: Senate doesn't, pass it to and send it to the
47:53
Speaker 3: house or the Trump for his signature, all you get
47:56
Speaker 3: is executive orders. And as we saw with Biden, those
48:00
Speaker 3: get washed away day one and they don't last and
48:02
Speaker 3: you won't have a hundred year run like Reagan did
48:06
Speaker 3: with his economy. Not really a hundred, but we're getting there.
48:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. When you go back to 2025, Donald
48:13
Speaker 2: Trump comes into office and I have to say that
48:16
Speaker 2: everything that he was doing, I think was going to
48:18
Speaker 2: do great things for the economy. And I think we
48:20
Speaker 2: started to see it. Wage growth was up. Inflation was down.
48:25
Speaker 2: GDP was up over four. And then we had a
48:28
Speaker 2: government shutdown of 43 days. And then that made the
48:31
Speaker 2: GDP go way down. So I agree with you that
48:34
Speaker 2: they are doing everything they can to try to run
48:37
Speaker 2: out this presidency. And they're having some success at it
48:40
Speaker 2: because going back to what we were talking about earlier,
48:42
Speaker 2: you have John Thune and Speaker Mike Johnson that really
48:46
Speaker 2: aren't doing anything to help him out. I think in
48:49
Speaker 2: the House, like you said, I think Mike Johnson has
48:52
Speaker 2: done okay. John Thune is doing nothing but obstructing everything.
48:57
Speaker 2: I think a talking filibuster would have been fine to
49:00
Speaker 2: pass the SAVE Act. I would have loved to seen that.
49:03
Speaker 2: I would love to get rid of the filibuster as
49:05
Speaker 2: it is now and have a talking filibuster. Let's go
49:08
Speaker 2: back to that. By the way, let's get rid of cloture.
49:11
Speaker 2: I don't think they have.
49:13
Speaker 3: The energy for that. I mean, could you imagine a
49:16
Speaker 3: 95 year old uh grassley doing a talking filibuster i
49:20
Speaker 3: mean we saw it with cory booker last year who
49:23
Speaker 3: was talking to nobody about nothing that wasn't you know
49:27
Speaker 3: there was no bill attached to what he was doing
49:29
Speaker 3: but i i don't see it i don't think ted
49:31
Speaker 3: cruz would do it i don't think rand paul would
49:33
Speaker 3: do it i don't think trump has a republican in
49:36
Speaker 3: that senate that would do a standing filibuster and when
49:39
Speaker 3: everyone was all upset and they all wanted to see
49:41
Speaker 3: the filibuster nuked remember that.
49:44
Speaker 2: Oh yeah that was like i'm not i was.
49:45
Speaker 3: Like no no no because what would happen is exactly
49:49
Speaker 3: what we said in the beginning you get 46 republicans
49:53
Speaker 3: to vote for something that trump wants because they know
49:57
Speaker 3: oh they don't get 51 and pass it so they'll
50:00
Speaker 3: take a free vote but they know that the mcconnells
50:03
Speaker 3: and the mc and the and the collins is will
50:06
Speaker 3: not vote for it even Mikulski today from Alaska, who
50:10
Speaker 3: won because of tiered voting, said she won't vote for
50:13
Speaker 3: the SAVE Act. Well, you can't lose one Republican, so
50:17
Speaker 3: there will be no SAVE Act.
50:19
Speaker 2: When I said that from the beginning, when everybody wanted
50:22
Speaker 2: the filibuster nuked, which, by the way, if they had
50:25
Speaker 2: nuked the filibuster back months ago and passed the SAVE Act,
50:28
Speaker 2: we found out that the save act wasn't good enough
50:31
Speaker 2: because they added some more stuff to it and passed
50:33
Speaker 2: it in the house again, send it back to the Senate.
50:35
Speaker 2: So we would have nuked the filibuster for something that
50:38
Speaker 2: would have done nothing for us.
50:41
Speaker 3: Can I also add that one of the horse trades
50:44
Speaker 3: they tried to do for Cornyn to get the endorsement
50:48
Speaker 3: of Trump by saying, I'll go to the Senate and
50:50
Speaker 3: pass the save act because if he doesn't get it
50:53
Speaker 3: and along comes, um, Paxton, that is next year. He
50:57
Speaker 3: doesn't get sworn in this year, so the election would
50:59
Speaker 3: come without the sayback. Okay. The same day, he said,
51:02
Speaker 3: I don't think I'm in favor of that. So he
51:04
Speaker 3: said he'd do it, but then he said, no, I
51:06
Speaker 3: don't think I really will. So he flip-flopped. Fastest flip-flop
51:09
Speaker 3: in history.
51:09
Speaker 2: Well, I was talking about that today, actually. What does
51:13
Speaker 2: that say about John Cornyn's convictions as a person? If
51:17
Speaker 2: he will flip that easily on that, only to remain
51:21
Speaker 2: in power, it says a lot about a person. And
51:25
Speaker 2: I know it's politics, and that's part of it, and
51:28
Speaker 2: you've got to change people's minds. But his mind has
51:30
Speaker 2: not changed. The thing that changed about him is he
51:34
Speaker 2: sees that he could lose. So he wants to win
51:37
Speaker 2: over his convictions.
51:39
Speaker 3: I don't even know why he wants to win. I
51:43
Speaker 3: don't know his soul or his heart, but I know
51:45
Speaker 3: his politics because I've watched him vote. He's been there
51:47
Speaker 3: 24 years, so if he wins, he'll have been there
51:50
Speaker 3: 30 years. I don't know why. He's got, like I said,
51:58
Speaker 3: an F rating on his Liberty score, which is darn
52:01
Speaker 3: near a Democrat in Texas, which has to be the
52:05
Speaker 3: reddest of all states, because if we ever lose Texas,
52:07
Speaker 3: it's over for the Republican Party and certainly the conservative
52:10
Speaker 3: movement that came out of the 80s and 70s. And
52:13
Speaker 3: if you just look at his track record, he's been
52:16
Speaker 3: almost the most vocal anti-Trumper that isn't a Democrat, literally.
52:22
Speaker 3: I mean, he came out in favor of Christopher Wray,
52:27
Speaker 3: and punishing Jan Sixers. He came out very much in
52:31
Speaker 3: favor of open borders. He's been very pro-immigrant in general,
52:36
Speaker 3: which is not, if you look at the polls, that's
52:38
Speaker 3: not a Republican talking point. He's been huge with pro-business,
52:42
Speaker 3: and you see that Google, Microsoft, YouTube, Adobe, IBM, Palo
52:46
Speaker 3: Alto Networks, Venmo, FedEx, all these CEOs, two to four
52:51
Speaker 3: billion users a day are not in the Jeffersonian democracy, Reagan,
52:59
Speaker 3: Republican vein of the party. They're mostly Indians. And that's
53:06
Speaker 3: not what the Pilgrims got away from King George from.
53:09
Speaker 3: They didn't want a caste system. They wanted something else.
53:12
Speaker 3: So John Cornyn is the perfect example, and it's ironic
53:16
Speaker 3: that it's happening right now, sort of like the most
53:18
Speaker 3: high-profile election because of the primary. that he probably wouldn't
53:23
Speaker 3: have won except they stuck in this third guy named
53:26
Speaker 3: Moore who was able to get about 100,000 votes, which
53:29
Speaker 3: would have been the difference, and we wouldn't have a runoff.
53:32
Speaker 3: But he survived to this point, and he's going to
53:35
Speaker 3: be right along there with the Murkowski-Collins-McConnell-Thune caucus and obstruct
53:42
Speaker 3: everything Trump wants to do because they are not Trump Republicans.
53:48
Speaker 3: There are no Trump Republicans. J.D. Vance might be because
53:52
Speaker 3: he's the vice president, but we really don't know. He
53:54
Speaker 3: hasn't had to vote on anything. So I guess, and
53:57
Speaker 3: I don't want to go down the list of all
53:58
Speaker 3: of them, but I can only fathom that John Cornyn
54:02
Speaker 3: is one of the most anti-Trump elected officials since John McCain.
54:09
Speaker 2: Well, Steve, we've got about a minute here, and we've
54:11
Speaker 2: got to wrap this up. Here's what I think. I
54:14
Speaker 2: think there's enough time between now and November. I think
54:17
Speaker 2: that Donald Trump can continue to do some things to
54:21
Speaker 2: let the American people feel it in their bank account,
54:24
Speaker 2: at their kitchen table. And if that happens, maybe there
54:27
Speaker 2: will become a fear in those people that we've got
54:30
Speaker 2: to go vote for Donald Trump or we're going to
54:32
Speaker 2: lose this because things are going so great. If we
54:35
Speaker 2: can stay away from the landmines that have been created
54:37
Speaker 2: from the Epstein files to bombing Iran a couple of
54:41
Speaker 2: times and shutting down the government to affect GDP and
54:46
Speaker 2: wage growth and things like that. I think things are
54:49
Speaker 2: on the right track. But, you know, the runway is
54:53
Speaker 2: short here. We've got until November. So you got to
54:56
Speaker 2: get to work. People have to go knock on doors.
54:59
Speaker 2: You have to get active. You have to get involved
55:01
Speaker 2: because that really makes the difference. People have to understand
55:04
Speaker 2: where we are as a country. And Steve, I want
55:06
Speaker 2: to thank you for coming on the program again. It's
55:08
Speaker 2: always great to talk to you here on The Truth
55:10
Speaker 2: Be Told and have yourself a great weekend.
55:12
Speaker 3: You too. Thanks for having me. Let's do this again.
55:14
Speaker 3: It's great.
55:15
Speaker 2: And don't forget, you were told 2,000 years ago that
55:17
Speaker 2: you are the salt of the earth, and salt without flavor,
55:20
Speaker 2: it has no value. So whatever you do, keep being salty.
55:24
Speaker 2: Have a great night.
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