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JPMorgan: Sex, Lies, and HR Scandals · Brief Recess: A Legal Podcast with Michael Foote & Mélissa Malebranche

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to brief Recess. I'm Michael Foot, I'm Alissa Melbrand.
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  Speaker 1: Should they We're going to talk about self loathing, pro
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  Speaker 1: cultural identity, all the cruise ships that I hate and
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  Speaker 1: the cesspools that they have haunted virus, how there's no
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  Speaker 1: adults in control the JP Morgan Chase sex scandal lawsuit,
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  Speaker 1: which turns out to be a hoax, I think. And
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  Speaker 1: we're going to answer all your burning questions from the DM,
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  Speaker 1: so stick around. Yeah, I was just making sure my
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  Speaker 1: high straight.
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  Speaker 2: Is that what it was?
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  Speaker 1: Yes? It really was?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, got it? Jesus complex?
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  Speaker 1: Sorry all my self loathing. You know how I feel
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  Speaker 1: about self floating the thing I don't have at all.
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  Speaker 3: Clothing, no self loathing whatsoever.
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  Speaker 1: No, I went to therapy. I figured it out. I
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  Speaker 1: went to therapy this weekend.
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  Speaker 3: How was that?
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  Speaker 1: I needed like a check in because it's just a
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  Speaker 1: lot of change in my life and it's been a minute.
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  Speaker 3: Do you not go regularly and not anymore? Okay?
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  Speaker 1: Because she was like, dude, I don't know why you're here,
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  Speaker 1: Like I honestly enjoyed going.
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  Speaker 3: She was like, because Michael is so well adjusted, it's
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  Speaker 3: like I really thought I needed to go, and she
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  Speaker 3: was like, there are people who actually need help.
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  Speaker 1: Can you leave me alone? And I was like wow, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And she had done that like a couple of times,
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  Speaker 1: and then I would come back and be like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: like I'm struggling and we chat.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, so.
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  Speaker 1: I went this weekend. She's gen Z. She looked me
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  Speaker 1: in the eye and she said like, why did you
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  Speaker 1: feel like you should even contact me?
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  Speaker 3: Why did you you mean, wait, the first time at
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  Speaker 3: all or this time?
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  Speaker 1: This time? She was like, I don't know why you
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  Speaker 1: really felt like you should even reach out to me. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: It's like, okay, I guess go fuck myself.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, what the hell? I like?
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  Speaker 1: And then she was like I'm not really hearing like
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  Speaker 1: an issue here.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, she needs a therapist because she
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  Speaker 3: needs what and you know what, she needs a gen
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  Speaker 3: x one.
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  Speaker 1: But it worked because I was like, you know what, pitch,
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  Speaker 1: you do got this? You are good? You are fine?
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  Speaker 3: Are you?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? I'd like leaving that call. I felt very confident.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, she's right, I do have this. I've
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  Speaker 1: got to figure it out. I do know what to do,
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  Speaker 1: I do have the answers, I do have the resources,
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  Speaker 1: and so it was kind of what I knewed, but
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  Speaker 1: it was like a very gen z response. She was like,
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  Speaker 1: she's like, how did you get this number? Why even
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  Speaker 1: hear talking about self loathing? I know that's the real
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  Speaker 1: thorn in your side. It's something that really gets under
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  Speaker 1: your skin.
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  Speaker 3: Raises your hackles. Well, when it comes to things like that,
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  Speaker 3: I think, again, you know, my desire to know why,
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  Speaker 3: like what happened? Right, what's going on? What's going on
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  Speaker 3: in the home, or what's not going on in the home?
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  Speaker 3: Is it a hug problem.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get into a sidebar about self loathing.
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  Speaker 3: And I actually would like to hear from people about
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  Speaker 3: that for themselves, Like do you you is there anybody
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  Speaker 3: who is self aware enough to realize that they are
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  Speaker 3: self they genuinely don't like things about themselves that they
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  Speaker 3: can't change, right, Like, well, I was going to say,
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  Speaker 3: like their race and ethnicity, but then I'm thinking about
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  Speaker 3: the conversation that, but like, you know, people who are
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  Speaker 3: you know, they are closeted. There are people who truly
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  Speaker 3: don't like who they are in terms of race or ethnicity,
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  Speaker 3: to the point where they have now removed themselves from
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  Speaker 3: their family. I told you this before. One time I
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  Speaker 3: had someone say to me, and this was an Asian
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  Speaker 3: person who said to me with a straight face, that
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  Speaker 3: they were like a banana, yellow on the outside and
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  Speaker 3: white on the inside. And I was flabbergasted, because my
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  Speaker 3: flabbers were gasted. I could not even it was as
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  Speaker 3: somebody you know what it is too, as somebody who
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  Speaker 3: out of all the problems I've ever had, I feel
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  Speaker 3: like the minute I introduced myself high Melissa Albrant Haysian
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  Speaker 3: and you do you know what I mean? And there's
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  Speaker 3: a pride there and not like a better than anybody
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  Speaker 3: else feeling, but like you're not going.
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  Speaker 1: To make me feel bad about my identity and.
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  Speaker 3: Not at all, not at all. And so I don't
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  Speaker 3: understand why you, as whatever it is that you are,
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  Speaker 3: cannot feel just genuine pride in that. I think, you know,
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  Speaker 3: whatever it is that you are, You're Irish, you're Italian,
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  Speaker 3: you're Jamaican, you're Ganayan, whatever it is, there should be
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  Speaker 3: like you should feel good about that.
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  Speaker 1: Right. What I'm hearing is that your issues with it
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  Speaker 1: are really tied to identity, correct, and it's about mostly race, gender,
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  Speaker 1: sexual orientation. I think, well, the banana common is insane
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  Speaker 1: because there is so much self loathing and like white aspiration.
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  Speaker 1: I think, yes, it's in person of color communities.
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  Speaker 3: It is really interesting, right, it's I don't know, do
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  Speaker 3: you watch Oh God, what is his name of that show?
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  Speaker 1: Gilded Age?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, the Gilded Age. So last year there was Felicia
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  Speaker 3: Vishad came on last year, right, and she is from
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  Speaker 3: this very prominent African American family and set in the
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  Speaker 3: Gilded Age. And one of the things that she does
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  Speaker 3: is her son is courting this other African American woman
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  Speaker 3: who is dark skinned, Okay, and the whole season is
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  Speaker 3: her trying to come to terms with it. And then
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  Speaker 3: there's another part in this show where there are some kids,
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  Speaker 3: black kids running out outside and she yells at the
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  Speaker 3: housekeeper to bring them back in the house or use
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  Speaker 3: an umbrella, because these kids don't need to get any darker, right.
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  Speaker 3: And the whole thing about that is in the the
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  Speaker 3: guy was saying to doctor Truvelle is there was a
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  Speaker 3: moment where people aspired to be if not white, then
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  Speaker 3: as light as possible as a way of making themselves
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  Speaker 3: sort of not stigmatized, not victimized. And I understand that, right,
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  Speaker 3: but it's really interesting to me to see that that
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  Speaker 3: is still in the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty sixties.
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  Speaker 3: Just tells me that I say this all the time,
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  Speaker 3: is that the long arm of colonialism is still with us,
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  Speaker 3: and it just it makes me feel I know. The
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  Speaker 3: other day we're talking about how I don't ever feel
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  Speaker 3: bad for anybody, but actually I do. I do feel
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  Speaker 3: really sorry for people like that, that you are not
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  Speaker 3: able to look at yourself in the mirror and be
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  Speaker 3: happy with what it is that you see. And I'm
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  Speaker 3: not talking about whether you're too thin or too fat
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  Speaker 3: or you want to change your body. That's not what
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  Speaker 3: I mean. But like, you know, years ago, I had
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  Speaker 3: a friend of mine who was Filipino, and she had
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  Speaker 3: said to me, and she was engaged to an Italian guy,
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  Speaker 3: and she had said to me that the idea of
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  Speaker 3: marrying another Filipino made her feel ill. And I just
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  Speaker 3: remember feeling again, really really sorry for that. Like and
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  Speaker 3: she loved her parents, she loved her dad, but there
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  Speaker 3: was something about being with a white person that I
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  Speaker 3: think that made her feel is a status symbol and
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  Speaker 3: also what her kids would look like. And I gotta
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  Speaker 3: tell you, I know it's so uncomfortable, oh so uncomfortable,
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  Speaker 3: and I and I just really wonder today, what is
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  Speaker 3: that about today?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 3: I do appreciate what it might have been like generations ago,
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  Speaker 3: but today.
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  Speaker 1: For me, it's like what self loathing it comes down to.
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  Speaker 1: It sounds like what we're talking about here is self
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  Speaker 1: loathing of any sort of minority.
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  Speaker 3: Right, any sort. It's not just it's not just race.
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  Speaker 1: And so the world already in so many ways tells
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  Speaker 1: you that it doesn't like you when you're a person
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  Speaker 1: of color, when you're queer, whatever. So all of that
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  Speaker 1: is going to be happening in the world. The one
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  Speaker 1: thing you can control is whether or not you love yourself,
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  Speaker 1: or whether whether or not you buy into it. And
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  Speaker 1: I think what I'm hearing is that like a lot
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  Speaker 1: of these people are buying into it, or these situations,
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  Speaker 1: like people we know who are hiding their heritage or
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  Speaker 1: hiding where they come from, or not talking about their
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  Speaker 1: family because they're ashamed that they're from a certain country.
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  Speaker 1: In the queer context, is mask gay men acting as
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  Speaker 1: masculine and straight as possible is still very coveted in
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  Speaker 1: the gay community.
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  Speaker 3: So it's like, so you mean somebody who could pass
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  Speaker 3: for straight.
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  Speaker 1: Pass for straight, acts like they're on the football team.
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  Speaker 1: Looks like that that is very much the ideal. And
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  Speaker 1: I have the same sort of raises my hackles, because
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  Speaker 1: that is self loathing of your queer identity, or this
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  Speaker 1: notion that if you are too effeminate, or if you
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  Speaker 1: are a sissy, or if you are you're acting too gay,
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  Speaker 1: it's considered less than or you're not the ideal in
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  Speaker 1: the gay community.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think that that? Like, so, if somebody is
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  Speaker 3: more effeminate, let's say, are they somehow less desirable?
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  Speaker 1: That's pretty much usually what happens, I think in the
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  Speaker 1: gay community, at least gay men.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, that is sort of like the same thing happens
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  Speaker 3: for lesbians, right, like somebody who is sort of more
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  Speaker 3: masked as opposed to more feminine.
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  Speaker 1: Based off like my lesbian friends. I think that there
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  Speaker 1: is I'm there is sort of like an equivalent, sure,
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  Speaker 1: of course, like a beautiful lipstick lesbian or someone who
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  Speaker 1: has very traditionally beautiful features, right, But what it comes
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  Speaker 1: down to it for me is like everyone fucking hates
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  Speaker 1: us for so many reasons, like why don't you just.
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  Speaker 3: Like what you're like, it's just.
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  Speaker 1: This is the one thing you can control how you
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  Speaker 1: feel about you.
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  Speaker 3: But I think that that's what it is, right. I
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  Speaker 3: think all of us, no matter where we are self
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  Speaker 3: living or not, right, I think we are influenced by
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  Speaker 3: outside voices.
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  Speaker 1: Right. It's also an affront to me, Okay, other gay
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  Speaker 1: people are like, oh, well he is too effeminate or
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  Speaker 1: not mask enough. That pisses me off. And I think
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  Speaker 1: it's the same for you. Where you see other black
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  Speaker 1: people who are like, oh, that person's too dark skinned,
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  Speaker 1: or I want my kids to be light skinned. It's like, no,
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  Speaker 1: you're actually doing harm to other queer people's and people
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  Speaker 1: of colors experiences because you are upholding this ideal, correct,
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  Speaker 1: this colonial ideal.
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  Speaker 3: I do wonder though, again, because I think that that
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  Speaker 3: stuff is so deeply ingrained that I don't believe that
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  Speaker 3: unless you are able to have some distance from it,
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  Speaker 3: that people with that line of thinking believe that they
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  Speaker 3: are being harmful.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Right, But that's also why I won't engage with you.
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  Speaker 1: If you are a copy paste chiseled up white dude
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  Speaker 1: footballer in a gay bar and you're not talking to
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  Speaker 1: other people, or you're not or or I hear comments
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  Speaker 1: like that, not that I won't talk to you, but
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  Speaker 1: if I hear comments like that where you are sort
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  Speaker 1: of maintaining that status quo, get out of here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know. Do you not just grow up?
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  Speaker 3: But like you sort of work past it? Is that
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  Speaker 3: something that I mean? And is it possible? Right?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 3: Is are you? Are you doomed to be this way forever?
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  Speaker 1: You and I have worked past it, right, Like I
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  Speaker 1: have gotten past it for me.
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  Speaker 3: I gotta tell you, I never had that problem with myself,
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  Speaker 3: Like do you know what I mean? There was never
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  Speaker 3: a moment where I wished for or aspired for whiteness
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  Speaker 3: or anything like that. I think my parents, without my
• 11:51
  Speaker 3: parents ever would have said anything about it. But because
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  Speaker 3: of the way that both of my parents held themselves
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  Speaker 3: and behaved, there was never a moment in my household,
• 12:01
  Speaker 3: in my family where it was like you should really
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  Speaker 3: want to be with a white person or you should
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  Speaker 3: want to be white yourself. That was never. There were
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  Speaker 3: other things that I feel like my parents didn't do
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  Speaker 3: a great job on, but like that's not one of them.
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  Speaker 3: And my brother and I were talking about this the
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  Speaker 3: other day about how much we both love Haiti so much.
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  Speaker 3: And it's because of the way my mom and dad
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  Speaker 3: talked about Haiti and how often we went as kids,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I think all that is
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  Speaker 3: very much experience based.
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  Speaker 1: I am like actually jealous of how you have like
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  Speaker 1: a very close affinity to a country that's like part
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  Speaker 1: of your identity. Maybe jealous is a strong word, but
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  Speaker 1: I like, I don't know really what that's like because
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  Speaker 1: I'm here and I'm constantly criticizing the country where I'm from.
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  Speaker 1: But I guess it's a close I feel a very
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  Speaker 1: strong affinity to the city of New York, Like that
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  Speaker 1: is my for sure, that is my idea.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's so funny that you say that I
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  Speaker 3: was thinking about that the other day, about about American people. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you don't feel because I have to tell you just
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  Speaker 3: because so just because I love being Haitian and I
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't be anything else, doesn't mean that I do not
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  Speaker 3: have a lot of criticisms for Haiti and Haitian people. Okay, right,
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't mean that. So you don't think it's possible
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  Speaker 3: or you tell me right, like to feel very proud
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  Speaker 3: of being American and being so proud of being American
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  Speaker 3: that you want to do whatever it is that you
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  Speaker 3: can do to make sure that she's better than what
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  Speaker 3: she is.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I think it is like one of these
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  Speaker 1: things where it's so specific. Right for me to be
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  Speaker 1: like a proud American is to try and force it
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  Speaker 1: to be better. Right. And I don't know if I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if that's the same that you feel for Haiti. Right, Like,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of your connection to Haiti
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  Speaker 1: is like cultural, maybe not political. I don't know. I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to like a son.
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  Speaker 3: No no, no, no, yeah, it is. It is cultural and
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  Speaker 3: it's it is familial love. You know.
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  Speaker 1: I have a fierce network of Haitians.
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  Speaker 3: I do.
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  Speaker 1: I do everything about every Haitian in New York, unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: And you can figure out if someone's Haiti if there quickly.
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  Speaker 3: That one, that one there, that one right there.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, she just pulled that. Actually there's a
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  Speaker 1: memory behind me. She figured that out. But yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: watch out if you're hiding how Haitian you are because
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  Speaker 1: Melissa is gonna.
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  Speaker 3: Fund you don't don't that for me. But as far
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  Speaker 3: as Haiti politically, I don't mind saying that. I'm very disappointed.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, do you know what I mean? I'm super disappointed,
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  Speaker 3: and it's I'm disappointed because I know that they we
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: can do better, right, And anytime I go someplace else
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  Speaker 3: that's similar to hate, like another island, I'm always just like, Wow,
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  Speaker 3: Haiti could be like this. Our food is so good,
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  Speaker 3: the music is so good, our art is beautiful, the
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  Speaker 3: beaches are wonderful. There's no reason why we can't. We
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  Speaker 3: can't be just as good as Jamaica therant tourist destination.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely do you are you? Can we get into a
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  Speaker 1: deep dive about the Haitian politics or could you talk
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  Speaker 1: about it?
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  Speaker 3: We could, except that I fully admit that I am
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: not as malagy research and that and maybe you can
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: have somebody on that would be cool.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's get into an algorithm is showing because a
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: lot of wicked and wild and crazy things have been
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: happening in the world. Do you just random question, have
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: you ever been on a cruise? And do you like
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: to go on cruises?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm so glad you asked me that I have
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: never been on a cruise and have never had any
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: desire to be on one way before anything. And let
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: me tell you something my parents loved cruises. Yeah, Andre
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: has been dying to get me on a cruise and
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: I have never had and I and I said to him, finally,
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, I'll do it for you, but not anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Not anymore, it's in your contract. I had them updata
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  Speaker 1: at exactly. I'm serious, you're not going on a cruise.
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  Speaker 1: We can't wrap up the show because you're stuck on
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  Speaker 1: a cruise.
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  Speaker 3: Well, anytime I've ever seen images of a cruise. First
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  Speaker 3: of all, all those people pein in that pool because
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  Speaker 3: you're pain and there.
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  Speaker 1: Pain in the pool.
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  Speaker 3: It's peace getting drunk, you're pissing yourself, absolutely right.
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  Speaker 1: There's a cruise ship documentary. It was called like the
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  Speaker 1: Poop Cruise or something.
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  Speaker 3: It was like it was like.
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  Speaker 1: Because everyone got sick, everyone got like rampant food poisoning,
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: and it was I forget the name of the documentary.
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  Speaker 1: I saw it came up on Netflix and I was like,
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: I gotta watch that. I gotta save that for later.
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  Speaker 1: And I never watched it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm good.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: And now people are whatever happened with the mice and
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: the haunt of virus, I don't want to know.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: So here's the thing about that this this virus is.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: Here's my my fear and my belief. Right. So, given
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: what we all went through with COVID, right, do you
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: imagine a scenario where if this really cut to pass,
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  Speaker 3: that people will do what they did during cold They
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  Speaker 3: will lock down, they won't do it, especially now with
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  Speaker 3: this administration going to do anything. You're not going to
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  Speaker 3: do anything. So people, I'm good, So people, So people.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: I just feel it's got a dry cough it was.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: I just feel like people will just sort of crumple
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: in the street, like because nobody. No one's going to
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: stay home.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: I think so too. Everyone's just going to be like, well,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: let's turn the party because I didn't die last time.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Meanwhile, this is a completely different thing.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be the nineties all over again
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: in New York. What do you mean, people just partying,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: going crazy and wild.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. We did do that.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we did do that.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: We did.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Hull's Kitchen will be you know, the dumps again.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But I think I wonder though, if gentrification has
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: changed that because health Kitchen is not Healths Kitchen.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Anymore, but parts OF's Kitchen are still Health's Kitchen. Kind
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: of health you can turn down the wrong street and
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: it's like wrong streets and else. Kitchen. Still you always
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: file them alphabet city, what is it. Avenue A, you're
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: all right, y, Avenue B you're brave, Avenue there's a thing.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Avenue C, you're crazy, Avenue D you're dead.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: That's okay.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: When I had hair, a hairdresser told me that that's
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: how long ago this was. And I was on Avenue
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: B getting my haircuts. Yeah you do, Yeah, it was great.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: It was like shoulder length.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: It was like eighties hairband. That's what he was. He
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: was in sticks Xana do.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: I had the braid. I had a Xana Do braid
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: across night for it. So anyway, this ship has docked,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: I guess, sir. People are now being quarantined. A couple
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: of them are from New York. Vocals out there talking
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: about how they're strong New Yorkers and I'm like, that's great.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: They need to do it from afar. We need to
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: do don't be here, right, can't we can't We crowdfund
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: sending them supplies to the boat and let them like
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: quarantine on the boat. Is everyone coming to shore suddenly?
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, do they need medical assistance?
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Maybe it could be that, but a couple of people
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: have died already, and there are five confirmed cases several
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: additional suspected cases. I don't know. It's making me a
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: little nervous.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: When I first heard about it, I was just like, oh,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: here we here we go, here we go. And there's
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: conspiracy theories that it's not real already.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: I heard a different one that there's an Australian lab
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: that where a hundred vials of virus were stolen two
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: years ago, and maybe that they created this new Andy's
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, strain of it. They're robbing labs and stealing hint. Yeah,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of robbing anyone. It's the it's the Irmez
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: store on Fifth Avenue. I'm not why would you rob
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: a lab?
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: I was talking to KP about that, yeah, Ermez, and
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: she's she's so all into it, like she's like, well,
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: so she and her boyfriend came over this weekend yesterday
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: for Mother's Day and we did mother say stuff because
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: her mom is out of state. Right, So she was
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: asking me about like my dream bag. I don't have
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: a dream bag. Okay, do you know what I mean?
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Do you?
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: So does she and she was, and I was just like,
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: there are some things I care so little about, and
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: this is one of those things.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't care that much about it. But it
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: is like a it's like your plastic surgery videos. Like
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: there's something very satisfying about an unboxing video for me.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: I guess so into it. And when we're eventually in
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: the hantavirus lockdown, I'm going to watch a lot of them.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'll do some of my own some of my
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: own unboxing. Maybe I'll start to a muck bangs.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: I've never seen a bag that I have felt like, God,
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: I wish that I had the money to get this bag. Yeah,
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: there are other things I feel that way about, but
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: I feel that way about sometimes sometimes jewelry, plastic surgery.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Get this bag removed. I actually did I dreaming.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: I actually went to my plastic surgeon this this weekend.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: You did that last week?
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Tell me everything.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: I mean, So for anybody who who doesn't know, it
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: doesn't matter. But so, I have had a couple of
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: procedures because of excessive weight loss. Right, so I needed
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: to have my stomach done, my arm's done, I had
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: my breast done, and I never got my thighs done
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: and I would like to do that, and while we're
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: at it, I kind of want to get my boobs
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: done again. So he you know, I went to him
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: and he drew on me the way that they do.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: I always I don't want anything, but I do kind
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: of want someone to draw me like that. It does
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: seem like the most fun. Everything else after that is
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: excruciating pain, and that seems like the fun part.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: I mean it was, and I like and I like
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: my doctor. He's really funny, but he's not funny, but
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: his dry humor, do you know what I mean? And
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: so when I say something funny, he looks at me like.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: I remember one time I said something to him and
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: he was like and he looked up at me and
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: he was just like, oh, this is you're making one
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: of your jokes.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Not laughing.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: No, but the nurse was in there and she was
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: dying and he just he was like doing something to
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: me and he looked at me. He was like, I'm
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: making money of your jokes. Okay anyway, And I love
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: people like that because I'm always trying to get people
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: like that to laugh, right, and so.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: But he never has I injured myself at one point
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: and I asked, Melissa, you know what do I do?
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: And the response I got was from me, yes, I
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: asked you about it, and you were like, well, why
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: don't you just get a like these three procedures done?
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: And it was and you were like and you were like,
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: and no memory of it.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Okay. It was a couple of years ago, and I remember.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: I remember being a bitch.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: I was like, hey, I brought this issue, like I'm
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: really worried about it, and you're like, why don't you
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: just get like four surgeries? And I was like, I
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: made the space that you're like, what are you talking about?
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: And you're like, oh, sorry. You were like, I forget
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: sometimes that not everyone throws themselves under the knife at
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: the first inconvenience.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I am. I come from a long line
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: of people who don't mind going to the dot.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh, I forgot that not everyone has a
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: medical gurney in their living room so when they can
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: sit up with a motorized Yeah.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: I was like, I rented one of those chairs.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: You told me. I was like, I don't have I
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: don't have a medical physical.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: I rented the chair, but I needed it. I know
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: you did I couldn't cut.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Me open like a medical trust.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: What is no, no, no, it was it was a chair.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: It was like it was a chair that it's the
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: chair because.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: I can't sit up.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: You can't make couldn't you couldn't like I couldn't like
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: sit down. Right, So the chair met me where I was.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Get yourself a man who treats you like a medical
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: chair like.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: The chair met me where I was. But we all
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: want to be met where we are, right, the chair
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: met me where I was. And then it's and I
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: had a remote control and it's slowly put me back
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: where I needed to be. It was great.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: This is actually that's what my therapist said to me
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: this weekend was find people that meet you where you are.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like that's a good that's where
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: it's at.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it ties into the self loathing too. That's beautiful.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: That's and that's a beautiful Here we are a full circle.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Let's take a break. Okay, let's get into an under oath.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about are you cool if we
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: talk about JP Morgan Chase in this guy's lawsuit where
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, have you followed this at all a little bit?
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: And so when I first saw it. The first thing
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: that I thought about is years ago, right years ago,
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: there was a book called Disclosure by Michael Crichton that
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: was turned into a movie that starred Demi Moore and
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: Michael Douglas. I think it's like a watch early the
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: mid nineties and Demi Moore's character whose name all of
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: a sudden, I'm remembering her name was Meredith, And that's
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: random shit that I remember.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Is that weird? Why am I like that you can't
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: remember to text me back?
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: That's not true. I text you back all the time.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: He's such a dirty liar. And it was sort of
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: similar to It just reminded me of it because the
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: Demi Moore character was harassing the Michael, she was the
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: Michael character.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: What was like the public's reaction to that? Because what
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: was this one?
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Was this? This was while nineteen ninety four, ninety ninety five.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder if it was, like I don't know,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: I feel like back then, women harassing men were I
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: were probably like, yeah, well no I.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: Don't remember, but I get the film that they were
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: just like that could never happen, do you know what
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: I'm saying? Like, I don't think there was a whole
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: lot of nobody believed it because we were all really
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: aware of men harassing women, but this idea of a
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: woman harassing a man was sort of like, there's no way, right.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: That's the first thing that I thought about when I
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: saw the closure. Closure Okay, so I read some of
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: the stuff.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Is just a quick overview of the case for people
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: who are totally unaware of what we're talking about. It
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: has now become a meme where people are so So basically,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: this guy worked for JP Morgan as a banker cherau Rana,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: and he filed a lawsuit accusing senior JP Morgan executive
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Lorna Haginie of turning him into a sex slave. So
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: these are very serious allegations and everyone was quite concerned.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: I think when they dropped it's a huge bank, the
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: allegations were vivid. They she was roofing him allegedly, there
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: was uh.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: And some of the stuff that she says is like
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: some of the stuff that she is alleged to She says,
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: she said, correct that do you really think management wants
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: some Indian boy leading organizations? That's disgusted, Like, yeah, do
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying? And like and some of
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: the other if you don't fuck me soon.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Also, yes, they do want that, don't they. We care
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: about diversity all the time. Yeah, especially yeah, you know.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: Just so I was reading this stuff and I was
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: just like, oh my god, if you don't have.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Sex with me tonight, I'm going to sabotage your promotion.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: I mean that is, if you don't fuck me soon,
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: I'm going to ruin you.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: That is like it's like written by AI. If you
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: don't fuck me soon, I'm going to ruin you.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: Never never never forget. I fucking own you.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: That really reads like not real. So this was This
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: was entered in a lawsuit. It was it was he
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: accused her of drugging him with Rufi's and viagra and
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: threatening to slash his bonus if he didn't comply. Like
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: these accusations were like extreme.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: We've talked about this before, right, Sometimes people will do
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: things or say things, and then my response to it
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: is not even like the outrageous thing that you said
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: or did, but it's more like the stupidity involved and
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: how you got to where you are, Like it's not
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: even like this thing. It's like, well, so like the
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: idea that this is the part that really got me. Right,
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: So the crazy plot twist. I am so concerned the
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: amount of people who don't recognize that the stuff.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: That you google is there forever. It's there forever forever. Yeah,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: any right, it's there forever.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: So even if you delete it, you get rid of
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: your cookies, it's no, but it's there forever. Right. So
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: like if you are looking up ways to like kill
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: your spouse or looking up ways to do X, Y
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: and Z, do it on a friend's computer, right, go
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: to the library. I don't know. I'm sorry, but I
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: think I'm just really concerned the amount of people who
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: don't recognize that you won't be able to get away
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: with it because they're going to do a deep dive
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: and they're going to find out that you did this.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: For example, this man went to ask a lawyer on
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: call dot com.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Oh Jesus christ oh no, and wrote all.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: Of these things yes, and basically lifted the stuff that he.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Got from an AI chatbot and put it into this lawsuit.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Correct. And again it's almost like the people who are
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: still falling for the Nigerian print scam. Yes, like why
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: are you still falling for this?
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: And so it turns out that all of his claims
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: were very much indefensible and quite spurious. I think people
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: concluded none, none of this happened. She was like, I've
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: never even managed him, and like JP Morgan, Chase did
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: a full investigation and they couldn't find any actual evidence
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: that this happened.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: He was just going after a payday, basically, think so.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: But jpmore and Chase offered him a million dollars before
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: the lawsuit blew up. They offered him a million dollars
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: to make this go away, and he turned it down again.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: And the thing is is that here's the problem with
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: stuff like this is that there will be a man
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: who probably has been or will be her currently being,
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: is now afraid to come forward because of people like this.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: This is what makes me so upset, is because I
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: know that there will be somebody if it hasn't happened already,
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: and I'm sure that it has, who finds himself in
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: this position, and especially as a man who maybe is
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: being harassed by a woman, right, who would be afraid
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: to come out and say that this is what's happening
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: to him because of someone like this, and think.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: About her as well, right, Because if there is nothing
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: that she did wrong, and this is just someone's wild
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: claims that they put into a.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: Liver time she's googled.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: I saw a meme. It was someone was sitting with
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: her across from her at lunch and took a photo.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: In the caption was first day at work, lunch with
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: my manager.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: Oh see, that's it's fucked up.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Actually yeah, because it's like, okay, this is like her
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: whole career. She maybe didn't even manage this guy, and
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: now he was like wild and made up these claims
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: and filed a lawsuit. If you want to file, if
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: you want to sue your employer for harassment or discrimination
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: after you're fired or while you're still working there, here's
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: how you do it. Document everything. You need screenshots, you
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: need text messages, you need emails, you need receipts. I
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: always people call me all the time and they're like,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: my boss did this crazy thing. I said, great, email
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: yourself and copy your personal email address detailing what happened
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: on that day. It will be timestamped. Like you said,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Google history is forever, so's your emails. So email your
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: personal account saying Melissa said this to me on this day,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: and it will be TimesTime with the date correct. Even
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: if you never use it, even percent of the times,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: you will never need it, but you will have a
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: record of it. Even if you're just emailing yourself on
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: your personal email account, you then have a receipt record
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: of what happened. So the first thing a lawyer is
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: going to ask you, if you're going to try and
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: see your employer, how old are you? First question age discrimination, gender, race,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: that's next protected classes. Then they're going to ask you
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: for documentation exactly what happened. They're going to try and
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: fit it into a couple different buckets. So one would
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: be hostile work environment. So we've got an environment that
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: you were just subjected to that was absolutely crazy, dangerous
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: for your health. We need to be able to show
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: that somehow right. So that's through your whatever emails, your documentation.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: That's all the ye On this date, my boss screamed
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: at me and said, yeah, three a stapler. Whatever it is,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: we know someone who threw a stapler. I do, that's
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: what we're laughing. But duck, if someone's throwing a stapler.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: I'm just thinking about the person who's through the stapler,
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: pregnant silence anywayant.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Pause for the listeners. Dead air made the dead air
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: fill your lungs. So anyway, then you're going to want
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: to another way you could probably see your employer is
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: for discrimination, sure, or retribution, like right if you were
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: fired or yeah, so you would want to be able
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: to show that you were treated differently because of was
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: he did?
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: He did? He and I sort of stopped following after
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: a little bit. But did he ever come up with
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: any receipts at all?
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: JP Morgan, spokesperson said following our investigation, we don't believe
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: there's any merits to these claims. While numerous employees cooperated,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: the complainant ree use to participate and declined to provide
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: facts that would be central to supporting his allegations. I mean,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: his one receipt was his like lifelong childhood friend who
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: who is staying at his apartment and claims that she
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: was came over to his apartment one night and sat
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: next to him naked on a couch and asked if
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: you want to have a threesome. Like that's but this
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: is like his lifelong childhood friend who's corroborating his story. Okay,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: but this is verifiable. Let's get the surveillance footage. Let's
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: get like her like uber account.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: Right, like and if it's yeah, and if he lives,
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: this is this New York Yeah, then we see her
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: coming in and out. There's no way in a doorman,
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: there's something.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: You're on camera five thousand times a day in New
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: York City, Like, we can easily verify that.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So did it just eventually go away?
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Her lawyer denies everything.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: I feel like there was an article that was like
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: this was not real, like it was literally made up.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: But that was like the maybe that's like the public consensus. Right,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: he he claimed that his father was dead or was
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: dying and.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: Dead, and saw that he made up that his dad
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: was dead. Meanwhile, somebody went to his dad's house. Dad
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: was like, oh, he didn't tell us anything, and he's
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: a good boy. He's a good guy, my son, before
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: closing the door. And here's the other thing about stuff
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: like that, right, my dad.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: Would never say that. If you he'd be like who.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: But this is the thing that just kills me about
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: people and their stupidity. Right, you're going to lie, and
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: you need someone to corroborate this story. Tell them, tell
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: them if I want Michael to lie for me. I'm
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: going to say to him, Listen, I'm about to tell
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: somebody that I was with you. Okay, but you don't want.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: To answer the phone. She's an incredible employee. She was
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: the best team member I've ever had.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: But do you know what I'm saying, Like, if you're
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: going to lie, yeah, and you're going to need someone
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: to help you clue them in.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah, everyone has the friend who's the fake reference.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Everyone has the friend reference had.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: This person wasn't my friend, but I had a colleague
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: who was just like, listen, if you ever need a reference,
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: just call me up. And they were like, it doesn't
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: We'll figure something out. And I was like, okay. I
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: mean I never had to use them, but I was like,
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: but they.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: That is like one of the best ways you can
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: be a resource to someone. I had a friend. I
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: got a call from the employer as their reference never
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: worked for me. It was for a dog groomer. Wow, Wow,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: you gotta tip me off, babe.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: She didn't tell you. But I don't understand. That's like,
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: that's like lying one O one would do. She wouldn't know.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: I'm going to stand up for my girl. So she
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: would never do that, that Disney bitch, wouldn't she would.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Wait. She texted me this weekend.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, is she back in the States.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: She was like, are you on your way? And I
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: was like where where are you? And she was like
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: literally the switch, she said, I'll pull it up, I'll
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: read it. To the wedding in Venice. Oh, I invited
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: you last week. You said you'd come. I was like, yeah,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: I was joking, aroun'd going to Venice with you.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: I would have gone.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be fun?
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: And I like weddings.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: I don't like Venice.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Do you like that?
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: I've never been to Venice. That's why I would have gone.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: It smells, it's hot, it smells its smell.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: Why is it? Is it because of the it's like sewer?
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: Huh, I don't know.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: I feel like a bunch of Italians are going to
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: get mad. Yeah now, but I actually think not that
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: many Italians live in Venice anymore. It's like ninety transplants. Oh,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: it's like a lot of things.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: We ruin everything. Get them straight to camera, get get
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: the bridging tunnel, get them like it's just like you
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: like when I lived in Flatbush, right, Yeah, there was
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: this place. It was like a Jamaican barbecue place, right
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: and you can smell it, right, and the jerk and
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: then a bunch of transplants moved in with kids and
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: whatever else, and they were just like, oh, it's too
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: it's too smoky. They were white, Yeah, they were white, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: And that place that had been there for twenty years
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: shut down.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Because it was too smoky. It's like a literal smoked
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: meat store.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But that's the thing. People move to places because
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: they like the edginess, they like whatever it is. But
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: then you move there and then you want to change it,
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: do you know what I'm saying? And that's why I
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: say that. And then transplants also make the rents go
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: up really high, and now people can't afford anything. How
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: a closet and a crackhouse is two million dollars, do
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying? And that's because transplants have
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: moved in. They don't they don't make it better. They
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: make it more expensive, and they make it exclusive, and
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: they make it so that the peapeople who were native
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: to the area can no longer afford to live there.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: And that is why transplants ruined everything.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: I went to Crown Heights to visit, not as a transplant,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: thank you, And they had all the barbecues on the
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: street and it smells so good. Yeah it's yeah, it's
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: right by my friend's apartment. And I went and yeah,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Good.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: So, I mean, so that's too bad about Venice, right,
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: So now that people who historically had lived there feel
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: like they can they've been pushed out, yes, by transplants
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: and tourists.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Like the tourist situation of menace is insane. Like the
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: speaking of cruise ships. The cruise ships like are rattling.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: The foundation of that is already thinking yeah, right, like
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: it's already struggle bus right exactly. It's like, yeah, and
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: now the cruise ships are like so many cruise ships
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: come in, all the tourists. It's it's a nightmare.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: I still don't want to go on a cruise. It's
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: like a giant floating peachry dish.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: I read something about all the garbage that is collected
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: on the cruise ships. They drop it at port along
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: the way, and these countries don't have infrastructure to handle
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: they don't all that trash. They don't, and so it
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: ends up polluting the island. The cruishive visits, all the
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: food is not from the local No.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: It isn't community, and the food hasn't ever really looked
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: that good to me.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Like you're only spending money on the cruise ship, so
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: you're never actually supporting the local community.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: And the other thing that's really interesting sort of we're
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: going to circle back to Haiti that and it's not
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: just Haiti, but a lot of countries in the island
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: have sold portions of their country to the cruise ships,
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: so that now like so for example, in Haiti, Labadi
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: no longer belongs to no longer belongs to Haiti, but it.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Belongs to Royal Caribbeans somebody like that.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: And it's and it's it's not forever, but it's for
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: a really long time. It'll be for like eighty years
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: or something like that. So like you're not actually supporting
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: the people of the area because that country has sold.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: I have a memorialism.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: If you're a cruise ship, go fuck yourself. I hate
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: cruise ships. They are always stupid.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: Yes did you hate it?
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: Why?
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: And I was like a kid, I remember being like
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: this is dumb. And I remember a kid, what did
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: you not like about it being trapped? I'm a gay kid,
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: I'm already trying to survive, and now you're locking me
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: on a boat with all these fucking breeders. They're disgusting,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: including your parents. I remember, and I wasn't that bougie.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: I remember being in that pool being like this is gross.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Oh that is sickening to even look at it. Yes,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: it is soup.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: It is people soup.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: And I swim in the New York City YMCA is
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: like on a swim teeth, and that shit is nicer
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: and cleaner than your nasty cruise ship. If you're a
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: cruise ship, get fucked. That's my message for you. I
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: hate you.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: Well, I guess we're not going to get any brand
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: deals from any crews.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: I don't want it. I'd rather be on the breadline
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: than take your dirty cruise ship money. Shove it.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: Okay, let's take a break. The scruple is suddenly a
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: scruple that he's so scrupulous all of a sudden, Let's
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: take a break. I'm mad as hell.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Why I hate cruise ships? Okay, there's no redeeming quality
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: about a cruise ship. If you support cruise ships. I
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: don't like you.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: Wow, Michael.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is I'm taking a stand I see someone. Finally,
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: this is my normal, ray unionize, this is my I
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: took so many ana histamines today. I feel crazy.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: Are you floating?
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: I am Jupidter welcome back to briefly says this is
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: tell us from the d MS. Don't message me if
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: you're a cruise ship. They wanted to get it. They
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: wanted me to do stand up. I made a TikTok
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: about it, and they wanted me to do stand up.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: But you're not a stand up.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: I'm not a I'm not a stand up.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think you're a funny guy. I do,
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: oh my god, But I mean you make me laugh,
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: but you make each other laugh.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: I don't have a set.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: Do you think he do it? I could not, But
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: could you do stand up? Or cruise ship stand up?
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: I'm opening I'm opening what is it called CJ. I
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: think it's called rat Scraps. It's a UCB improv show
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: that I'm going to open this coming Sunday. Actually, so
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: when says it's Thursday, come on Sunday. If you want
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: to see me in an improv show, there are actual improvisers,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: not just me, So don't worry. I'm going to do
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: like monologues like they're going to ask me questions, will
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: be like this, like a Q and a okay, and
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: then they'll do improv based off the stories that I tell, right,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: But it'll have actual improvisers. I think Jeff Hiller is
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: going to be there. I think, like real real actors
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: who know how.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: To do that.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Not me, not little old me. But no, I don't
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: think I could just stand up okay, but never Okay.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: So these are details from the DMS And what do
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: I always say?
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: Friends? While Michael is a lawyer, he's not your lawyers,
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: so find someone else.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, these are okay, these are just ths, just some
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: quick comments because some of these comments are really funny.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: They are from the fake assassination attempt episode. I haven't
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: heard a lot about that fake assassination after it happened. No, no,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: it's almost like it was fake. Sydney J t f says,
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: my mom's meth recipe is a bottle of Mr Low.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: What.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: I love that so much? Okay, this was like my
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: favorite one actually from the Swedish Latina who facts checks
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: our GFx on YouTube that said slut spurt, not slut spurt. Slutspurt.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: It's two words, guys.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: Okay, it's two words of shame, the slut spurts. All right.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Someone wrote in and said they're listening to the episode
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: talking about limitations on murder. No statute limitations. Right, that's
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: why we have America's most wanted, Right, they're wanted forever
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: for murder. So ICE agents could get charged with a
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: different administration. Yes, that's true. My question is might be
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: better to wait until then so that Trump can't commute
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: any sentences given to an ICE agent for murders they've committed. Yes,
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: that's absolutely true. You nailed it. I will say that
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: the charges that are hitting Trump commutes sentences. That's what
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: presidents do, or they pardon sentences, not charges. So charges
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: are what they hit you with. It's a charging document,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: it is. It's usually you get charged with like twenty
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: things if you commit a crime and then you plea
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: out certain ones, some charges are dropped, you argue certain
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: ones in court and pre trial hearings. So we've got
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: what two and a half three years left on his
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: term by the time Renee Goods murderer or Alex Prette's murderer,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: any ice officers who committed homicide while serving as an
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: ice officer, yea, he would not be able to do,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: like blanket immunity for them before he left office. Have
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: to be the sentence that he would commute. So that
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: is my understanding of it. And those folks are being
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: charged in state court, so that's sort of what's happening.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: What the Feds can do, what Trump can do is
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: sort of do anything to hinder the investigation, right, so
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: they're tainting evidence, they're not turning anything over there, just
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: completely trying to hamstring the prosecution, is my understanding of
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: those cases.
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: I wonder if we're just going to spend the not
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: the rest of our lives, but like just administration after
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: administration just undoing the things that the previous administration did before,
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: do you know what I mean? And it feels like
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: and while you definitely want justice for people, but it
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: feels like we're doing and undoing things all the time. Yes,
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like two steps forward, one step back. Sometimes
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: it's a bunch of steps back. That's why with antivirus,
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: I'm like, are we going to learn from any of
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: our mistakes.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: We don't learn anything. No, we really really don't.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: They're like, let them off the boat, Yeah, let them off,
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: let them off.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: Who cares?
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: Let them off that shit? Yeah? Yeah? Do you want
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: to read the next one?
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: Hi, Michael and Melissa. I'm starting law school in the fall,
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: and there's so much noise with my peers in the
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: schools that I tour about big law or bus and
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: how I'm going to regret it if I pursue criminal
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: law or public interest work. My question is how, in
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: the various stages of your careers, you balance giving of
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: yourself and serving the causes that you value with taking
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: care of yourself and your own needs.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: All right, let's pause there, because that's a big question.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: So this is like such a great question. I love
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: this so much. I never went the big law route.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: I never worked at a big law firm. So basically,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: for those who don't know, in law school, you start
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: to sort of campaign to get these high paying jobs
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: in corporate law, and a lot of people do them,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: and it's like very sparkly and they come and woo you,
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: and you've got to be at the top of the class.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: For me, I always the way I always tell people
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: when they ask me, like should I go into big
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: law and like make a bunch of money? Should I
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: do public interest work? Like my advice is always like
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: figure out what works for you, and this is for
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: any career really, like figure out what is going to
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: motivate you to get out of bed every day, because
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: you're gonna have to get out of bed every day
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: and it's gonna suck sometimes. So be able to look
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: at yourself in the mirror is what I say. I
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: have a lot of friends who went into big law
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: and a lot of friends who burned out, hated it
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: went on, like a couple of years after big law
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: went on big like finding myself trips around Asia, like
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: you know when people are they're starting to give the
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: blink twice if you need help sort of face, you know,
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: like it's a grind. And I think a lot of
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: people go into those careers because they're like, I'm just
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: going to make a bucket of money, sell my soul,
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: get out and then do what I want. There are
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: no guarantees in life. There's no guarantees that you will
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: live to be one hundred. What happens if after those
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: two years you find out that you know there are
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: no other jobs for you to go do that, or
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: if there's a chain circumstance, stance in your life or whatever.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: It is like it's historical cliche like live every day whatever,
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: but it is kind of that sentiment. It's like, Okay,
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: if you are going to quote sell out, I'm not
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: really committing to that term. But if you are going
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: to do something you know you're going to hate and
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: not want to do just for the money, just know
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: that that is valuable, precious time in your life that
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: you're taking and setting aside knowing you're not going to
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: like it. And I always really couldn't grapple with that,
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: and I was also privileged enough to not have to
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: make that choice.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: You need to ask yourself if you can live with
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: whatever it is that you're doing.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: So, I was not a lawyer. I was a pairalegal,
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: and it's very different. However, I was a paralegal in
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: big law firms and I was desperately unhappy, desperately unhappy.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: I was sick all the time, my hair was falling out.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: It was a lot of pressure. So as a pairalegal,
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: if that's the feeling that I had, I feel like
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: for associates, it's like tenfold, if yet more.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: Also, there was a point where I was working on
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: cases where I felt like I was doing the wrong
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: thing for the wrong people. It wasn't illegal, but it was,
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: you know, it was sort of crushing the little guy.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: Somebody would bring a case against a huge company, and
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: because this company had so much money behind them, they
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: were able to outspend this other person. And usually what
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: would happen was that other person would give up, not
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: because they were wrong, but because they had a run
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: out of money, right, And that was almost the goal
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: weight them mouth because they're not going to be able
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: to outspend us. And eventually, for me as a pair
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  Speaker 3: of legal I realize that this is not what I
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  Speaker 3: want to do. I want to help people.
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  Speaker 1: You're causing harm.
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  Speaker 3: It felt like I was causing harm, and so that
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  Speaker 3: is why I decided not to do that. And not
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  Speaker 3: that people who are on social media are always telling
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  Speaker 3: us the truth. But every now and then I will no, no, no,
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  Speaker 3: just hear me out. Every now and then I will
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  Speaker 3: fall on an attorney who's working in big law and
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  Speaker 3: they're talking about a day in the life. Right. I've
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  Speaker 3: seen those and these are people who are getting to
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  Speaker 3: work at say nine o'clock. They're not leaving me office
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  Speaker 3: until like eight eight, nine o'clock, they're getting home, they're
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  Speaker 3: working until like two o'clock in the morning. Ye, and
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  Speaker 3: then they're going back into the office the next day.
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  Speaker 3: Do you want to live your life like that?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, even if it's just for a couple of years,
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  Speaker 1: do you, like truly ask yourself that, is.
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  Speaker 3: That what you want to do? And you know, are
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: the golden handcuffs? Is it? Is that enough? And maybe
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  Speaker 3: it is? And no judgment, right, and no judgment. If
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  Speaker 3: that's okay with you, then that's okay with you, and
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  Speaker 3: it's fine. But if you are concerned at all about
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  Speaker 3: the quality of your life, yep. Do you want to
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  Speaker 3: be able to shut it off when you get home
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  Speaker 3: or not? Do you want to have a family? Do
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: you want to be in a relationship? Do you want
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: to go on vacation and leave it behind? So? I
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  Speaker 3: think that these are questions that people should ask themselves.
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  Speaker 1: For me, I'm like, I want to have fun at work.
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  Speaker 1: I know that's such a weird way to approach it,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm like, what I'm doing I need to be
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  Speaker 1: having some fun. That's how I'm approaching everything. Now. I'm
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  Speaker 1: writing emotion right now. I'm having so much fun writing
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: it because I'm eating these bitches up fork knife, no crumbs, gobble, gobble, honey,
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  Speaker 1: miss Thanksgiving dinner. I'm eating them up. And it's so
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: like it, truly. I can't wait to go home tonight.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to be in bed. I will have a
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  Speaker 1: sheet mask on and I will be giggling to myself.
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  Speaker 2: I'm serious, I'm lay waiting and I know that that's you,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm going to be cackling in bed.
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  Speaker 1: Well. Brad will be in the other room, like what
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  Speaker 1: is he watching? I'm watching myself, babe, I'm watching myself
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  Speaker 1: eat them up.
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  Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question. When you were in
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: law school, you never did a summer associate ship.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I interned for like a law firm, but it
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: wasn't a big law that's a big law associate thing
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: that's like a.
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  Speaker 3: Whole You didn't do it. No, yeah, no, no interest,
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: nothing I was.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know what it was, and so it just
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: never went out for it. I just wasn't really paying attention, okay,
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: and so and so it was happening and people were
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: talking about it and I was like, huh, I wonder
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: what that is anyway? Should we get a hot talk
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: for lunch? Like I just wasn't nothing was really registering.
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: So I mean you you weren't interested.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: I wasn't interested. It didn't sound interesting.
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: It's like like that like the drugs for me, right,
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: it's not It's like I knew, I don't. I just
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: didn't care. It wasn't do you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 3: Like it's like, oh, not interested in that particular thing.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway. Thank you for sending in your question. That was
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: really sweet. Oh and she also wrote that she hooked
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: her mom on this podcast this weekend and we drove
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: around for hours touring law schools and oh my god,
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: now I'm one straight fan, just one. Thank you so much.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: How fun touring law schools, d DM mae let us know.
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: Let's let us know where you get in and what
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: you want to do or someone we're legitimately interested.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: I love that, all right, Thank you so much. This
• 54:31
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• 54:38
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• 54:41
  Speaker 3: He's petty enough to do it.
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