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Credlin | 5 November · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Krendland live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good you think, welcome to the show. Great to have
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Speaker 2: your company. Here's what's coming up on Credline. While that
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Speaker 2: zero debate rages on. Chris Bowen has been called out
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Speaker 2: for his latest so called free energy folly. Experts are
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Speaker 2: right to say there's no substens a free lunch, But
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Speaker 2: this isn't so much about giving free power out at lunchtime.
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Speaker 2: It's about trying to save the grid from the damage
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Speaker 2: that rooftop solar surges are doing to reliability. You know
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Speaker 2: the books are bad when you learn today that about
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Speaker 2: a quarter of Victoria's debt is now owed to foreign players.
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Speaker 2: So who do we owe the most debt too? And
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Speaker 2: what happens when that debt gets called it? And just
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Speaker 2: how vulnerable it's the state's already discounted credit rating. The
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Speaker 2: new Shadow Treasurer Jess Wilson coming out, Plus yet another
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Speaker 2: example of kinder aged children being asked their preferred gender
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Speaker 2: and pronouns. This time it was a Catholic educator. So
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Speaker 2: how widespread is this not just in Queensland but other
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Speaker 2: states too? And desperate to quell leadership speculation Susan Lee
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Speaker 2: at it yet again, doing her best to downplay the
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Speaker 2: civil war within her party.
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Speaker 3: While we might be presented as being at war, and
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Speaker 3: that's how it's been described to me once or twice,
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Speaker 3: that's actually not the reality. So there are a lot
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Speaker 3: of sensible, calm, measured discipline discussions.
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Speaker 2: But First Liberal Party is getting a lot of free
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Speaker 2: advice now from people who make their living talking and
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Speaker 2: writing about politics. But I've never had any skin in
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Speaker 2: the game. Some of that advice includes that it can't
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Speaker 2: dump a bad policy if that policy happens to be zero.
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Speaker 2: That it can't replace a leader if the current leader
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Speaker 2: happens to be female. But why stick with a policy
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Speaker 2: that's driving up power prices and sending our jobs and
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Speaker 2: industry offshore, especially when nothing we do here will make
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Speaker 2: a scrap of difference given the massive increase in emissions
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Speaker 2: from China and India? And why stick with a leader
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Speaker 2: who's not making key decisions and who's not cutting through
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Speaker 2: or when she does, it's for all the wrong reasons
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Speaker 2: because her judgments so off. Maybe Susan Lee will swiftly
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Speaker 2: settle the Liberals' net zero debate and recover in the
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Speaker 2: polls I'd like to hope so, because I'd.
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Speaker 4: Love to see the party's first female leader be a success.
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Speaker 2: But the leadership has to be earned on the basis
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Speaker 2: of performance, not gender. The Opposition leader has made two
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Speaker 2: strong speeches on economic policy, and that's to her credit.
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Speaker 2: But in the end, we need to be a country
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Speaker 2: that makes things, it grows things, and we won't be
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Speaker 2: if government policy remains in a net zero strait jacket.
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Speaker 2: In twenty thirteen, the Labor Party replaced Australia's first female
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Speaker 2: Prime minister because the Caukers thought if someone else would
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Speaker 2: do a better job. Now he didn't, but that's another story.
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Speaker 2: The British Conservatives, well they have replaced three female prime
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Speaker 2: ministers because they thought someone else and each of these
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Speaker 2: three circumstances that someone else was a bloke, that they
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Speaker 2: could do a better job. Now, whether they did or
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Speaker 2: whether Rudd did, you make that judgment. But no one's
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Speaker 2: entitled to hold on to any job because of their gender,
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Speaker 2: or their race or any other indicy other than performance.
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Speaker 2: It's about runs on the board and nothing else in politics.
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Speaker 2: And as for the commentary that dumping that zero would
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Speaker 2: bran the Liberals forever. As climate deniers who could never
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Speaker 2: win an election.
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Speaker 4: Well, we've heard that before, haven't we.
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Speaker 2: Back in two thousand and nine, commentators said the Liberal
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Speaker 2: Party would be quote signing its death warrant if it
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Speaker 2: elected Tony Abbott, and then went on to oppose Kevin
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Speaker 2: Rudd's in missions trading scheme. We all know how that
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Speaker 2: turned out, didn't we. The Liberals forced a first teen
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Speaker 2: government into minority and then at the next election won
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Speaker 2: a landslide victory. Oppositions don't succeed by being a weak echo.
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Speaker 2: They've got to be a clear alternative to a bad government.
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Speaker 2: You lose one hundred percent of the fights you're not in,
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Speaker 2: and that's what the Liberals must remember. Last night, to
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Speaker 2: ASIO director Mike Burgess officially confirmed what we already knew
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Speaker 2: that the Islamist group Hesberteria.
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Speaker 4: Is fostering extreme due hatred in Australia.
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Speaker 2: It's domestic leader, hear Ishmael al Waha, has said that
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Speaker 2: an I quote recognizing the Jews and giving them even
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Speaker 2: a single inch of Palestine constitutes the epitome of evil
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Speaker 2: because this will strengthen that cancerous entity. They are the
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Speaker 2: most evil creatures of Allah. Last night, Burgess said that
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Speaker 2: Hissberteria's tactics were we want to those used by Neo Nazis,
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Speaker 2: testing and stretching the boundaries of legality without breaking them.
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Speaker 5: Our social fabric is fraying in ways we have never
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Speaker 5: experienced before, and this is not an accident. His Butteria
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Speaker 5: wants to test and stretch the boundaries of legality without
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Speaker 5: breaking them. As with Neo Nazis, this does not make
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Speaker 5: their behavior acceptable. I fear its anti Israel retric is
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Speaker 5: fueling and normalizing wider anti Semitic narratives.
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Speaker 2: Today, the coalition told the government that it must seriously
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Speaker 2: consider the listing of his Materia as a terrorist organization,
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Speaker 2: following the terrorists listing that's already taken place in Britain,
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Speaker 2: in Germany and even in Indonesia. To be listed, an
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Speaker 2: organization must be directly or indirectly fostering the doing of
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Speaker 2: a terror act. Now, if an organization is so listed,
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Speaker 2: the membership, recruitment, the financing, even associating with members of
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Speaker 2: the group becomes a crime punishable by imprisonment. Now, if
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Speaker 2: the Albanezer government was serious about tackling hate speech, listing Hasberteria,
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Speaker 2: it would be one of the most easy decisions it
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Speaker 2: could take. The fact that they are still sitting on
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Speaker 2: their hands despite this advice from their tops by chief
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Speaker 2: that is now enforced to make public says everything you
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Speaker 2: need to know about this government's commitment to ending anti
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Speaker 2: Semitism in Australia and their apparent willingness to turn a
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Speaker 2: blind eye to Islamist extremism. All right, Jorda, We now
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Speaker 2: for a look at a fairly hectic and tumultuous Question
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Speaker 2: Time today in the Parliament.
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Speaker 4: Senior Political Reporter Trudy.
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Speaker 2: Macintosh will start there on QT today, Truty, because pressure
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Speaker 2: on Jim Chalmers today following the decision by the RBA
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Speaker 2: the Reserve Bank yesterday to keep the cash rate on hold,
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Speaker 2: and those particular the pointed comments from the Governor about that.
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Speaker 4: Spike in inflation.
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Speaker 2: I said things were tempestuous, certainly were pretty fiery.
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Speaker 4: What did you make of things?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it did seem to get pretty willing at the
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Speaker 6: start of Question time today. In essence, this was a
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Speaker 6: fight about whether you can effectively call someone a liar
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Speaker 6: over the dispatch blocks. That's what Treasurer Jim Chalmers was
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Speaker 6: saying when he was accusing Susan Lee of doing that
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Speaker 6: this morning on breakfast television. He believes essentially she was
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Speaker 6: verbaling the Reserve Bank governor in this debate about whether
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Speaker 6: government spending is to blame for the inflationary precius we're
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Speaker 6: seeing in the economy. But key factional lieutenant of Susan Lee,
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Speaker 6: Alex Hawk, was having none of it.
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Speaker 4: He slammed his papers.
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Speaker 6: Down on the desk at one point and said, well
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Speaker 6: for an now to start calling people liars.
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Speaker 4: That he went on a series.
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Speaker 6: Of calling out lies the PMS done have a.
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Speaker 7: Look an egregious lie that was being pushed around the
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Speaker 7: gallery this morning on morning media by the leader of
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Speaker 7: the opposition.
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Speaker 8: You are hopeless. You are hopeless and the liar, and
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Speaker 8: the liar lying to the Australian Peter.
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Speaker 4: If lying is in order, then lying is is a lion.
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Speaker 2: Maybe given his Susan Leed's factional warlord, all the pressure
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Speaker 2: about a leadership and the fact that I think they're
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Speaker 2: spitting their wheels on this issue of Zero's get into him,
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Speaker 2: Alex Falk, I mean, I think it's getting the wall
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Speaker 2: the but Alex talk, I mean he's probably in the
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Speaker 2: gun there.
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Speaker 6: It does maybe this is a little emotional blowout of
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Speaker 6: what's been a pretty tumultuous couple of weeks for Susan Lee.
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Speaker 6: At the moment, as you know, Peter, the discussion here
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Speaker 6: is about a potential killing season. It doesn't seem like
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Speaker 6: that's where this is actually going to head in terms
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Speaker 6: of susanly being rolled before Christmas. But the very fact
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Speaker 6: she's being asked questions about that I think doesn't bode
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Speaker 6: well for her future.
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Speaker 4: Now.
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Speaker 2: I don't think she'll be there as leader within the
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Speaker 2: next sort of six to twelve months. I don't think
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Speaker 2: there's any push though to dump her before Christmas. First
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Speaker 2: of all, who wants the job? And I think they're
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Speaker 2: not at rock bottom yet. I think until they resolve
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Speaker 2: this issue on Net zero, I think the next leader
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Speaker 2: wants that issue off the deck, wants and dealt with,
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Speaker 2: and wants to move on with a clean sheet. So
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Speaker 2: I think there's any immediate immediate threat. But I do
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Speaker 2: make the point I did it in the editorial. It's
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Speaker 2: idea that you can't change the leader because she is
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Speaker 2: a woman. You know, the British have changed their female
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Speaker 2: Conservative prime minister three times. It didn't save Julia Gillard.
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Speaker 2: She was our first female prime minister in Australia. I mean,
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Speaker 2: if you're a dud, you're a dad, you're a dud.
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Speaker 2: You don't remove the dud. But let's hope she can
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Speaker 2: turn things around.
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Speaker 9: Well.
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Speaker 6: Funnily enough, Peter, the very day that Susan Lee actually
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Speaker 6: won the leadership, that very tight battle with Angus Taylor
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Speaker 6: back in May, it's six months next week. Incidentally, since
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Speaker 6: that point, someone said to me, not in Susan Lee's camp,
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Speaker 6: obviously you know it's going to be hard to roll
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Speaker 6: the first female leader, isn't it. And you thought Jesus
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Speaker 6: is day one of her in the job, that's already
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Speaker 6: the thinking that it's going to be difficult to get
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Speaker 6: rid of her, regardless of performance at that point, based
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Speaker 6: on her being a woman. I think, ultimately, as you say,
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Speaker 6: it's a good point about why would you want it
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Speaker 6: now if you're Angus Taylor or Andrew Hasty. Let Susan
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Speaker 6: Lee do the difficult policy dismount when it comes to
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Speaker 6: net zero. If it doesn't go well, if they can't
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Speaker 6: hold the party together, that actually gives them a potential
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Speaker 6: trigger next year to move on her leadership.
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Speaker 2: Well, let's go to the social media ban. We're not
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Speaker 2: far away from that kicking off. Anyone under the age
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Speaker 2: of sixteen. I say this to my nieces and nephew
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Speaker 2: I know are on social media.
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Speaker 4: They're going to have to get off it.
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Speaker 2: We've got some more information today about platforms in and
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Speaker 2: platforms out.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just thirty five days until this social media
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Speaker 6: ban takes effect. And finally we've got this a list
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Speaker 6: of platforms that are actually officially part of the band.
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Speaker 4: You'll be able to see them on the screen.
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Speaker 6: There's eight different platforms at the moment, the big popular
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Speaker 6: ones you will have heard of, including Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat
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Speaker 6: for examples, also Reddit and a platform I'd never heard
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Speaker 6: of called Kick. But at the e Safety Commissioner was
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Speaker 6: saying today Peter that essentially there's a rolling watch on
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Speaker 6: this that at any time they could add other platforms
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Speaker 6: to this if they are seen to be meeting the
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Speaker 6: criteria as a part of the legislation here. So there
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Speaker 6: is potentially going to be teething problems the platforms are
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Speaker 6: saying though, it could even go essentially over the top
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Speaker 6: to ensure that they are complying, So people who are
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Speaker 6: over sixteen might have their account deactivated for some times.
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Speaker 6: We're gonna have to watch this closely as to how
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Speaker 6: it's actually implemented.
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Speaker 2: Should I just put up a passion fruits sponge that
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Speaker 2: I cooked this afternoon on my Instagram this afternoon. I
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Speaker 2: hope I don't get bounced because mine's all the bad
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Speaker 2: cooking and dash outs. Believe it there, Thanks Trudy, think
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Speaker 2: you might be John Now for all the other politic
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Speaker 2: it might be fine, Thank goodness, all the other political
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Speaker 2: winners of the day. With our senior reporter Carolyn Marcus
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Speaker 2: and former Liberal MP Nicole Flint, let's pick up on
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Speaker 2: net zero if we can, because it's a fast apparent
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Speaker 2: there are not too many within the Liberal party willing
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Speaker 2: to back it in, at least publicly. According to the
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Speaker 2: Daily Telegraph, only three Liberals backed keeping the targets as
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Speaker 2: they are the twenty fifty target, Jane Hume, Julian Lisa
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Speaker 2: and Andrew McLaughlin too. There, of course, are senators they
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Speaker 2: backed in the target, and a whole lot of other
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Speaker 2: well known moderates who might say privately off the record
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Speaker 2: they like net zero, they declined to states to state
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Speaker 2: so publicly. So Nicole, this tells me that if even
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Speaker 2: the moderates are having a hard time selling this policy.
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Speaker 2: I mean, but even Bill Gates says the game's over.
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Speaker 2: You've got a wonder why on Earth it's still such
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Speaker 2: a political potent issue in Australia.
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Speaker 9: Well, I think it's still such a potent issue in
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Speaker 9: Australia and with voters because we haven't seen the center right.
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Speaker 9: So the Nationals and the Liberals doing the work to
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Speaker 9: carefully explain to the Australian voters why we need to
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Speaker 9: drop zero and Peter, I've said this on your program
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Speaker 9: previously about six weeks ago, which coincided with a News
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Speaker 9: poll showing that sixty two percent of Australians either supported
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Speaker 9: the current action on climate change or increased action on
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Speaker 9: climate change, and only twenty eight percent said we needed
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Speaker 9: to slow down because of the cost. I could not
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Speaker 9: be more delighted that we've seen the work by the
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Speaker 9: Page Research Center, the NATS think tank, and full credit
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Speaker 9: to Jared Holland and his team for that exceptional piece
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Speaker 9: of work, because this is precisely the thoughtful, researched information
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Speaker 9: we need to be talking to the Australian people about
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Speaker 9: in great detail. What we also need to do on
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Speaker 9: this issue is start an advance Australia style and paign
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Speaker 9: the like of which we saw with the Voice, which
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Speaker 9: turn the polls around and we managed to thankfully successfully
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Speaker 9: defeat the Voice. I'm just really disappointed that we don't
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Speaker 9: seem to be seeing that sort of work coming out
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Speaker 9: of the Liberal Party.
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Speaker 4: I hope it's there.
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Speaker 9: I hope that I'm wrong that it doesn't exist, but
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Speaker 9: we haven't seen it yet. And if we're going to
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Speaker 9: drop net zero, we have to see that work. We
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Speaker 9: have to promote this throughout every community because you will
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Speaker 9: not win back seats like Boothby, my former seat in
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Speaker 9: South Australia, or in the teal seats or the urban
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Speaker 9: seats that we've lost if we don't explain to people
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Speaker 9: carefully why we are dropping net zero.
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Speaker 2: Yes, I've made the point plenty of times in this program,
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Speaker 2: Caroline that they've got to actually make a decision and
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Speaker 2: do it quickly, because, as Nicole says, they can't absent
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Speaker 2: themselves from the debate if they are going to walk
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Speaker 2: away from net dere and I I advocate they should
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Speaker 2: know if snow barts no, you know, fear leaf of
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Speaker 2: an aspiration. They then have to spend every single day
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Speaker 2: between now and polling day at the next election explaining
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Speaker 2: why they're doing it and putting up an alternative. It's
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Speaker 2: not good enough to have a position and then hide
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Speaker 2: under the bed and not advocate for it like they
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Speaker 2: had with nuclear But just going back to this issue
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Speaker 2: with the moderates, because they are basically the supporters that
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Speaker 2: are propping up the leader at the moment. They're not
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Speaker 2: prepared to say publicly to the Daily Telegraph that they're
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Speaker 2: backing in net zero, But at the same time they're
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Speaker 2: telling the Australian that they're willing to go to war
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Speaker 2: over this. Now that's a huge issue if they won't
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Speaker 2: move off net zero, But they're not prepared to go
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Speaker 2: out there and argue.
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Speaker 4: For net zero. Well, they're in the worst possible world.
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Speaker 10: They can't have it both ways, can they, Peter. I
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Speaker 10: think privately it's quite clear that a lot of them
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Speaker 10: don't back net zero because they truly believe that this
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Speaker 10: is the best thing for the world and the climate
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Speaker 10: and Australia. They back it because of naked political posturing,
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Speaker 10: because they think it will help them hold on to
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Speaker 10: inner city seats fight off the til wave but they
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Speaker 10: don't think. They don't believe in it with conviction, and
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Speaker 10: I think that's why they're not willing to publicly support it.
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Speaker 10: I think Susan Lee is in a bit of a
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Speaker 10: lose lose situation here. I agree with you. I think
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Speaker 10: that zero is not the way to go for the party.
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Speaker 10: We've already seen the polling recently which have showed conservative
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Speaker 10: voters are abandoning the coalition. They're moving to one nation
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Speaker 10: and it's because of things like energy policy and the
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Speaker 10: lack of a good argument that the Liberals have been
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Speaker 10: able to mount for the policy that they took to
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Speaker 10: the last election.
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Speaker 4: They need to be able to fight.
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Speaker 10: This, and so far Susan Lee has been saying, well, look,
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Speaker 10: we don't have to come up with a policy yet
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Speaker 10: because it's three years or so to another election. Well,
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Speaker 10: clearly they do, because they need that much time to
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Speaker 10: convince people to come back to the party and to.
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Speaker 4: Vote for them. But look, I've always argued Susan Lee.
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Speaker 10: I think unfortunately for her, she's a bit of being
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Speaker 10: a placeholder this entire time. I don't expect the Liberals
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Speaker 10: to ever be continuing with her to the next election.
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Speaker 10: It's always a matter of not if, but when she
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Speaker 10: ends up getting rolled. And with this on top of
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Speaker 10: some of her recent captain calls recently about Kevin Rudd
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Speaker 10: about Alvin Easy's T shirt, which I happen to agree
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Speaker 10: with personally, but many people within the party didn't. I
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Speaker 10: think that it is closer to happening sooner rather than later, Benicle.
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Speaker 2: Can you imagine though, if they did walk away from
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Speaker 2: net zero and I make the point, you know, Tony
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Speaker 2: Blair says, leave it, it's over. Bill Gates says, you know,
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Speaker 2: green Manyana time to move on, and the leaves already
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Speaker 2: do not support the twenty thirty five targets.
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Speaker 4: How the heck do they support anything in twenty forty
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Speaker 4: and twenty fifty. Put that to one side.
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Speaker 2: Imagine they're not backing net zero, and then next year
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Speaker 2: Australia hosts that COP conference in adelaide as Chris Bowen
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Speaker 2: and Prime Minister are desperately trying to do. And Australians
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Speaker 2: not only know now that it'll cost them one billion dollars,
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Speaker 2: but they see that money being spent, they see the
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Speaker 2: chaos on the street, they see all the activists. I
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Speaker 2: just think that's a gift to the Coalition, if only
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Speaker 2: they were smart enough to grab it.
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Speaker 9: Well, I have a very strong view on this, Peter.
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Speaker 9: I want that conference in Adelaide, in South Australia, because
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Speaker 9: literally every single day in the Adelaide Advertiser we read
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Speaker 9: about another cafe, another restaurant, another small business that's closing
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Speaker 9: because of the appalling economic situation the state and federal
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Speaker 9: Labor government has put us in. So I want that
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Speaker 9: conference for all of our businesses right here in South Australia.
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Speaker 9: But I have a much better way to fund it,
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Speaker 9: because I do not think that Australian taxpayer should pay
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Speaker 9: for this. I think we should ask the likes of
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Speaker 9: Triggy Forest and Simon Holmes, the Court and Malcolm Turnbull,
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Speaker 9: and we should ask all of the multinational renewable energy
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Speaker 9: companies to bankroll this for the good of Australia, to
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Speaker 9: put their money behind what they believe in and bring
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Speaker 9: all of these international people here so they can boost
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Speaker 9: this out to Australian economy.
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Speaker 2: Well, Chris Bowen's free Power during the day off yesterday
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Speaker 2: didn't even survive twenty four hours. Experts are out there
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Speaker 2: Caroline saying that basically it's a dog of a policy
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Speaker 2: who's home during the day to turn on the dishwasher
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Speaker 2: and do what Bowen says. And Saul Kavadek, who we
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Speaker 2: have on this program, he's.
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Speaker 4: An energy analyst.
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Speaker 2: He says, there's no such thing as a free lunch.
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Speaker 2: It goes on to say that what happens here is
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Speaker 2: the prices or the free electricity during the day will
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Speaker 2: have to be offset by higher prices at other times
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Speaker 2: of the day to cover fixed It's also been slammed
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Speaker 2: by the Australian Energy Council as well.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean he's right, there is no such thing
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Speaker 10: as a free lunch or free electricity.
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Speaker 11: People.
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Speaker 10: There are going to be people out there who think Woho,
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Speaker 10: free power. But as you point out that, there's a
20:17
Speaker 10: very limited number of people who this will apply to.
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Speaker 10: First of all, it only applies to people who are
20:22
Speaker 10: on a default market offer, as it is, people with
20:26
Speaker 10: certain devices in their households, which outside of Victoria's only
20:29
Speaker 10: forty percent of the population. But on top of that,
20:32
Speaker 10: the retailers are going to have to recoup.
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Speaker 4: That margin somehow.
20:36
Speaker 10: So if you're going to have free electricity in the
20:38
Speaker 10: middle of the day when hardly anyone is at home
20:41
Speaker 10: to use it. But maybe the pensioner is an unemployed
20:44
Speaker 10: and some public servants working from home. Then people who
20:48
Speaker 10: need it like most of us after work, after school,
20:53
Speaker 10: in the evenings when it's coldest, when we need to
20:57
Speaker 10: run our appliances, we're going to have to pay higher costs.
21:02
Speaker 10: Just they're not going to be giving it away for free.
21:05
Speaker 10: It's going to come off somewhere else. So ultimately, what
21:08
Speaker 10: this is going to lead to is people being penalized
21:11
Speaker 10: for using electricity when they actually need it, and that
21:15
Speaker 10: is obviously a terrible thing for the country. But not
21:19
Speaker 10: only that, it's going to have other unintended consequences which
21:23
Speaker 10: perhaps Chris Bowen hasn't carefully thought through.
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Speaker 4: Experts of warning.
21:28
Speaker 10: It could also lead to greater demand from the coal
21:32
Speaker 10: industry and less demand and less people wanting to actually
21:40
Speaker 10: go to solar and use renewable energy. So ultimately it
21:44
Speaker 10: may not even help the government meet its renewable energy targets.
21:48
Speaker 10: So perhaps they want to bring that one back to
21:51
Speaker 10: the touring table.
21:54
Speaker 4: Before we go.
21:54
Speaker 2: I want to get a quick comment from back of
21:56
Speaker 2: you of actor that is sitting in this afternoon our
21:58
Speaker 2: time for the New Yorkers to have elected zorn Man
22:01
Speaker 2: Dami as their next mayor. He gave a long winded
22:06
Speaker 2: socialist die tribe as an acceptance speech, much of it
22:10
Speaker 2: aimed at Donald Trump.
22:11
Speaker 12: Have listen, and if there is any way to terrify
22:15
Speaker 12: a despot, it is by dismantling the very conditions that
22:19
Speaker 12: allowed him to accumulate power.
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Speaker 11: This is not only how we.
22:26
Speaker 12: Stopped Trump, it's how we stop the next one.
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Speaker 2: Nicola, I can't see how New York has voted for
22:35
Speaker 2: this bloke. You know, he wants to hit the rich
22:38
Speaker 2: even harder. One percent of New York's population pay fifty
22:42
Speaker 2: percent of the taxes. The rich are going to leave
22:44
Speaker 2: everything basically under this bloke is for free. But on
22:47
Speaker 2: the issue of nine to eleven, he's made it less
22:50
Speaker 2: about the victims of nine to eleven and more about
22:53
Speaker 2: poor old Muslims and you know, women in headscarves how
22:57
Speaker 2: they felt in the years after nine to eleven in
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Speaker 2: in New York City. I think if you were a
23:03
Speaker 2: Jewish American living in Manhattan or anywhere in the boroughs
23:07
Speaker 2: of New York, you would feel very, very uncomfortable tonight.
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Speaker 9: This is an extraordinary decision by voters in New York
23:16
Speaker 9: and Gosh. I think it's hugely concerning as to how
23:20
Speaker 9: this will unfold, not just for all of the reasons
23:22
Speaker 9: that you've mentioned, Peter, but such an aggressive speech firmly
23:28
Speaker 9: aimed at Donald Trump.
23:29
Speaker 11: That's not good.
23:30
Speaker 9: For the American people and for calm, stable democracy.
23:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so, you know, Paris, London and now Caroline.
23:43
Speaker 2: I think New York are basically cooked.
23:46
Speaker 11: Well.
23:47
Speaker 10: I think it's very boring for New York because obviously,
23:50
Speaker 10: economically he is a socialist a Trump called him a communist.
23:55
Speaker 10: He's offering free freezes on ranch, free public buses, and
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Speaker 10: free child can All of that obviously comes at a
24:02
Speaker 10: cost to higher taxes for big companies, for the richest
24:06
Speaker 10: and societies you say they'll leave. But culturally I think
24:09
Speaker 10: it's a real concern as well, not only because of
24:12
Speaker 10: the comments he's made about post September eleven, I mean,
24:16
Speaker 10: the worst terrorist attack on the West in recent times,
24:21
Speaker 10: but this is the biggest Jewish population in America. This
24:25
Speaker 10: is someone who refused to condemn Genoslide or slogans like
24:30
Speaker 10: globalize the inter Bata during his campaign. He made somewhat
24:34
Speaker 10: something of a turnaround towards the end when he realized
24:38
Speaker 10: that it could cost him, but he is firmly pro Palestine.
24:42
Speaker 10: Has called the Jewish State an apartheid state, accused them
24:46
Speaker 10: of committing genocide and gaza, which we know has not happened.
24:51
Speaker 10: And this is someone who's going to be leading the
24:53
Speaker 10: biggest Jewish state, a Jewish city in the world. I
24:56
Speaker 10: think it's really disturbing some of his extremist rhetoric. But
25:02
Speaker 10: the one silver lining could be that it does well
25:05
Speaker 10: at leads for Trump and the MAGA movement is that
25:08
Speaker 10: it attracts even more people to that because Trump will
25:11
Speaker 10: use this to say to Americans from all over the
25:17
Speaker 10: country that this is where the Democratic Party is heading,
25:20
Speaker 10: and if you vote for me and my people, my
25:23
Speaker 10: team at the next election, then you're going to be
25:26
Speaker 10: saved from this happening to your own city or states.
25:29
Speaker 10: So not great for New York, perhaps positive for the
25:31
Speaker 10: rest of the country in the future.
25:35
Speaker 4: We will see. You're an optimist.
25:37
Speaker 2: I think there's going to be a hell of a
25:38
Speaker 2: lot of damage done before we get to that point,
25:40
Speaker 2: but we'll see.
25:41
Speaker 4: Leave it there. Thank you both.
25:42
Speaker 2: Last night, during the twenty twenty five low E lecture,
25:45
Speaker 2: ASIO Director General Mike Burgess warned of the potential threat
25:49
Speaker 2: posed by foreign governments.
25:52
Speaker 5: Given the degrading trajectory of our security environment and the
25:55
Speaker 5: growing willingness of regimes to conduct higham operations. AZIO assess
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Speaker 5: there is a realistic possibility a foreign government will attempt
26:03
Speaker 5: to assassinate a perceived dissident in Australia. This threat is real.
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Speaker 2: Joining me now for his analysis, Former Australian Federal Police
26:13
Speaker 2: Detective Superintendent David Craig.
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Speaker 4: David, you are.
26:17
Speaker 2: Across this speech and the content that sits behind it
26:21
Speaker 2: over many years, more than probably any guest I can
26:25
Speaker 2: have on tonight what we were overall thoughts on those remarks.
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Speaker 8: Look, I think it's a good awakening, it's a good
26:33
Speaker 8: shakeup for the Australian population and I hope that they
26:36
Speaker 8: listen to Burgess. There are some that may think he's grandstanding,
26:39
Speaker 8: but I think it's a very important tactical way to
26:41
Speaker 8: inform the community, the Australian community, of the threats that
26:44
Speaker 8: we face, because they are, as Burgess says, unprecedented, and
26:48
Speaker 8: they're all coming simultaneously and we all need to be
26:51
Speaker 8: aware of this. National security is a matter for all
26:53
Speaker 8: of us It's a very complex environment, as he pointed
26:56
Speaker 8: out during his speech, and it is something that I
27:01
Speaker 8: hope that some of the notaries that were there last
27:03
Speaker 8: night will take back to their own organizations and feedback
27:06
Speaker 8: down through the tactical operators in their own organizations.
27:12
Speaker 2: I want to play some comments he made about a
27:14
Speaker 2: link that's emerged between Islamic extreme miss group Husberteria and
27:20
Speaker 2: the Neo Nazis have a listen well on.
27:23
Speaker 5: Entities such as his Butertteria is religiously motivated. Its provocative behavior,
27:28
Speaker 5: offensive rhetoric, and insidious strategy are very similar to the
27:32
Speaker 5: tactics of the National Socialist Network. The organization's condemnation of
27:38
Speaker 5: Israel and Jews attracts AMDIA attention and aids recruitment, but
27:42
Speaker 5: it deliberately stops short of promoting onshore acts of violence
27:47
Speaker 5: or acts of motivated violence.
27:51
Speaker 2: Why have so many other like minded countries overseas David
27:55
Speaker 2: listed Hisberteria as a terror group, but not so here
27:59
Speaker 2: in Australia.
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Speaker 8: It's a really interesting question, Peter, and it's one that
28:04
Speaker 8: we need to revisit. I mean, our description of a
28:07
Speaker 8: terrorist incident or motivating terrorism is simply not broad enough
28:11
Speaker 8: to incorporate Husberteria, but it should. I mean, they are
28:15
Speaker 8: banned in most Muslim countries. These are not friends of
28:18
Speaker 8: the Muslim community in any way, shape or form. They
28:21
Speaker 8: thrive on provocation. They motivate people to commit terrorist acts,
28:28
Speaker 8: but fall short themselves of actually inciting it publicly. I
28:33
Speaker 8: think that the Australian government needs to take a strong
28:36
Speaker 8: stand against Husbertteraria. They are I say that they work
28:40
Speaker 8: in the legal gray area between law abiding, good Australian
28:45
Speaker 8: Muslim citizens and those that have a propensity for radicalization.
28:52
Speaker 2: Okay, so if you say that there is ambiguity in
28:55
Speaker 2: the legislation, surely we just fix the legislation.
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Speaker 8: I don't think it's such a complex thing to do.
29:02
Speaker 8: Germany did it several years ago. I think the UK
29:05
Speaker 8: is looking very closely at it currently. America should I mean,
29:08
Speaker 8: if they are an undermining force in Muslim countries, then
29:12
Speaker 8: what are they in the West, That's the question I'd ask.
29:17
Speaker 4: Well, we know exactly what they are.
29:18
Speaker 2: But it is interesting, you know, I know that advice
29:21
Speaker 2: that he would have given in the speech last night
29:24
Speaker 2: would have been given behind closed doors to governments. The
29:27
Speaker 2: fact that it's now out there publicly, is you know,
29:30
Speaker 2: causing us all to have this debate, and that must
29:32
Speaker 2: be exactly what Azo and Burd just want us to
29:35
Speaker 2: have to possibly get movement on this issue.
29:37
Speaker 4: I'll leave it there, thank you very much, David.
29:39
Speaker 2: After the break, more and that astounding story out of
29:42
Speaker 2: Queen's Lay where parents have been asked to choose the
29:43
Speaker 2: pronouns of their kids in hinder class. Victoria's dead continues
29:49
Speaker 2: to climb. You will not believe how much the state's
29:51
Speaker 2: becoming reliant on foreign credit and why this is a
29:55
Speaker 2: concern for the whole country.
29:57
Speaker 4: Coming out, welcome back.
30:03
Speaker 2: Coming up, Victoria's credit rating under threat as state debt
30:06
Speaker 2: continues to spiral, and much of it, as we learned today,
30:10
Speaker 2: foreign owned. But now to follow a story from last
30:13
Speaker 2: night about the Queensland Curriculum and Assessment Authority which is
30:18
Speaker 2: sending out kindergart enrollment forms and asking parents whether they
30:22
Speaker 2: want alternative pronouns for their three and four year olds.
30:26
Speaker 2: We spoke to a defiant mother last night and Narrissa Pace,
30:30
Speaker 2: who's been outraged by the move. I approached then the
30:34
Speaker 2: Queensland government for their comment. The Education Minister, John Paul
30:38
Speaker 2: Langbrook came back to us, and he says, the independent
30:42
Speaker 2: statutory body, the QCA, distributed this form. We believe parents
30:49
Speaker 2: are the best place to choose how they fill out
30:51
Speaker 2: the form.
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Speaker 4: Well.
30:52
Speaker 2: Here to discuss the wider implications of what's going on here,
30:56
Speaker 2: Women's Foreign Australia's head of Advocacy, Stephanique Bastian Stephanie, welcome.
31:02
Speaker 4: I will make the point John Paul.
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Speaker 2: Langbrook is absolutely welcome and indeed invited as he was today,
31:08
Speaker 2: to come on this program anytime and debate this issue
31:11
Speaker 2: with me.
31:12
Speaker 4: But I want to get your view on those comments.
31:14
Speaker 2: I mean, if the LNP isn't ready to or willing
31:19
Speaker 2: to dump this labor introduced madness, I mean pronouns for
31:23
Speaker 2: kids in kinder Stephanie, what hope do parents have?
31:27
Speaker 11: Well, good evening, Peter, great to join you.
31:29
Speaker 1: I think it's an incredibly disappointing response from the LNP
31:33
Speaker 1: because they are conducting a review into these treatments of
31:36
Speaker 1: medical gender transition at the moment. What's disturbing about the
31:40
Speaker 1: whole thing is that these forms and the whole the
31:43
Speaker 1: education system is normalizing the idea that children can change
31:47
Speaker 1: their gender or sex as they use it.
31:49
Speaker 11: Intermittently. And what this is doing is that it's putting
31:53
Speaker 11: kids normalizing, putting kids through a.
31:56
Speaker 1: Social transition and then onto a medical transition which results
31:59
Speaker 1: in for puberty blockers, cross sex hormones, which is why
32:03
Speaker 1: psychiatrists like Julian Spencer are warning parents away from socially
32:08
Speaker 1: transitioning their kids. Of course, then you've got the other
32:11
Speaker 1: impact of this on children.
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Speaker 11: So you have these.
32:15
Speaker 1: Children who are non binary or whose parents say they
32:17
Speaker 1: identify as the other gender, and that's going to create confusion.
32:21
Speaker 11: I mean we're talking about three and four year olds.
32:23
Speaker 1: Who barely understand the whole idea around what sex is
32:27
Speaker 1: and biology and all the rest of it. And I
32:30
Speaker 1: really do question these parents as well, because they've got
32:33
Speaker 1: three and four year olds who do not understand this.
32:36
Speaker 11: How have they got their children on this pathway? Is
32:39
Speaker 11: it the gender.
32:39
Speaker 1: Clinics we know in Melbourne and South Australia they accept
32:42
Speaker 1: children as young as three or are they pushing them
32:45
Speaker 1: at home?
32:45
Speaker 11: Is this a form of conversion therapy?
32:48
Speaker 1: I think there needs to be a review by the
32:50
Speaker 1: l and P into how many forty six children I
32:53
Speaker 1: believe identify as non binary in kindergarten it's disturbing, quite frankly.
33:00
Speaker 2: And even if you don't want this to be part
33:02
Speaker 2: of your child's life at that age or at any age,
33:05
Speaker 2: they're going to be in a kindergarten setting where someone
33:09
Speaker 2: they look at that they think as a little boy
33:10
Speaker 2: or a little girl has different pronouns. And then there's
33:13
Speaker 2: this whole debate. Four year olds can't even write their name, Steff.
33:18
Speaker 2: They're having a debate about really adult issues forced on
33:22
Speaker 2: them by other people who ticked the form. Even if
33:25
Speaker 2: you died and look, I understand this has even happened
33:27
Speaker 2: to you as a parent.
33:30
Speaker 11: That's right.
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Speaker 1: When I was living up in Queensland last year, I
33:34
Speaker 1: opted not to send my daughter to a kindergarten and
33:37
Speaker 1: this was a kindergarten with no primary or secondary school attached,
33:41
Speaker 1: because they wanted to know her gender at birth, her
33:44
Speaker 1: gender identity, and her pronouns.
33:46
Speaker 11: And this was a four year old. And I wrote
33:48
Speaker 11: back to them and I said that you were pushing
33:51
Speaker 11: kids on.
33:52
Speaker 1: You are supporting a harmful ideology that is harming children.
33:55
Speaker 1: And they seem to accept that I've checked the form,
33:58
Speaker 1: they haven't changed it.
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Speaker 11: They are still requesting this information.
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Speaker 1: But I decided that the risks were too great on
34:06
Speaker 1: my daughter, that this was a kindergarten pushing this.
34:08
Speaker 11: I saw it as a form of activism and I
34:10
Speaker 11: wanted to protect her.
34:11
Speaker 1: So my message to parents is to be vigilant check
34:14
Speaker 1: what is going on, because in my experience, if you
34:17
Speaker 1: have activist teachers pushing this thing, your.
34:20
Speaker 11: Children will be affected. So communication is critical.
34:25
Speaker 2: And I do think it's pretty gutless of the l
34:27
Speaker 2: ANDP to high behind the fact that this is this
34:29
Speaker 2: curriculum Authority is an independent body. They say it was
34:32
Speaker 2: brought in as a political decision of the former Labor government,
34:36
Speaker 2: so it can be taken out as a political decision
34:40
Speaker 2: of the current CHRISO Foley government. If you feel strongly
34:43
Speaker 2: about this, and I know my email blew up about
34:45
Speaker 2: it last night, please I owe you to contact the LMP,
34:48
Speaker 2: contact the Premier and contact the Education Minister John Paul Langbrook.
34:52
Speaker 4: As I said, very welcome on the show anytime.
34:54
Speaker 2: Just before we go, this story that's really running everywhere
35:00
Speaker 2: al line, a woman in LA kicked out of her
35:02
Speaker 2: jim because she complained about a transgender woman, so a
35:06
Speaker 2: biological man in the change rooms as she was naked.
35:10
Speaker 4: Haven't listen, God, jeh.
35:14
Speaker 11: Man broa man. We're big and a woman's locker room.
35:21
Speaker 11: And that's why I'm getting kicked out. And I want
35:24
Speaker 11: to make sure to gross now.
35:26
Speaker 13: Today I was naked in the locker room. I turned
35:30
Speaker 13: around and there's a man there and boys like boy clothes,
35:35
Speaker 13: lip glass standing there looking at me. I'm butt naked.
35:37
Speaker 13: So the first thing I think is maybe there's a
35:39
Speaker 13: work doing here. Maybe I missed a sign. I say
35:41
Speaker 13: the word sir, to say, sir, what are you doing
35:44
Speaker 13: in here? He goes, don't talk to me. I'm a woman.
35:47
Speaker 4: I have a right to be in here. So why
35:50
Speaker 4: does she get kicked out here?
35:52
Speaker 1: Steff, Well, this is gender illogy at work. I mean,
35:56
Speaker 1: these are laws that prioritize the feelings of men trudged
36:00
Speaker 1: fine to women's spaces, and women are being violated. It
36:04
Speaker 1: is an act of violation for a woman to be
36:06
Speaker 1: in a state of undress being seen by man that
36:09
Speaker 1: she didn't consent to, and I think it's incredibly harmful
36:12
Speaker 1: and damaging. We haven't got women speaking out in the
36:15
Speaker 1: same way here. I think because there's a culture of
36:18
Speaker 1: fear and the fact that lawfare is so commonplace. You
36:22
Speaker 1: see others that have spoken out, such as Curer Lee
36:24
Speaker 1: Smith or Judsmine Sussex, and there's.
36:27
Speaker 11: A real threat.
36:28
Speaker 1: Men are more protected as their gender identity than women
36:32
Speaker 1: are in law here and it's incredibly disturbing. And she
36:34
Speaker 1: went on to make a comment about you know, these
36:36
Speaker 1: men have never been little girls. They've never been women,
36:40
Speaker 1: you know, who have experienced a soult or abuse in
36:42
Speaker 1: the past, and they've got to deal with this.
36:44
Speaker 11: It's incredibly unfair.
36:49
Speaker 2: Goodness, May the world's getting crazy and crazy. I'll over
36:51
Speaker 2: there that Stephanie Veastian, thank you well, keep following this up,
36:54
Speaker 2: don't you worry?
36:55
Speaker 4: All right?
36:56
Speaker 2: You might be surprised now Australian banks seem to have
36:58
Speaker 2: closed there's doors to the Victorian government. Overseas investors now
37:02
Speaker 2: owning more than a quarter of the state's debt. What's
37:05
Speaker 2: this mean for Australia If Victoria's on the hook to
37:08
Speaker 2: foreign creditors. That's coming up. Calbridge is coming up as
37:16
Speaker 2: he does every Wednesday. But now to those reports that
37:19
Speaker 2: are credit rating downgrade looms ominously over the Allen Labor government.
37:23
Speaker 2: With overseas investors now owning more than a quarter of
37:27
Speaker 2: Victoria's record high debt. It means Australian banks have effectively
37:31
Speaker 2: closed their wallets to more state bonds, forcing Victoria off
37:35
Speaker 2: shore to fund its soaring borrowings. Here to discussed this
37:39
Speaker 2: new Liberal treasurer, shadow Treasurer and Jess Wilson, I should
37:43
Speaker 2: say Shadow treasure I know a lot of people want
37:45
Speaker 2: to win the top job because I think the state's
37:47
Speaker 2: basically belly up bankrupt.
37:49
Speaker 4: Let's go to that point.
37:52
Speaker 2: Victoria's living on foreign credit and I think people were
37:55
Speaker 2: shocked in Victoria today to learn that twenty five percent
37:58
Speaker 2: of that is foreign eye owned.
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Speaker 14: That's right, and I think it just shows how bad
38:02
Speaker 14: the finances are here in Victoria. We're heading towards record debt,
38:07
Speaker 14: towards two hundred billion dollars and Victorians will be paying
38:10
Speaker 14: one point two million dollars an hour just in interest repayments.
38:15
Speaker 14: But what this shows is that the Allen Labour government
38:18
Speaker 14: have maxed out domestic lenders. They now have to go overseas.
38:21
Speaker 14: And we've seen this with the former Treasurer and the
38:24
Speaker 14: current Treasurer spending hundreds of thousands of dollars of Victorian's
38:27
Speaker 14: taxpayer money to jet set overseas to go and beg
38:31
Speaker 14: institutional lenders international lenders to buy Victorian debt because it's
38:35
Speaker 14: just getting too big and the Australian banks can't take
38:38
Speaker 14: on anymore.
38:39
Speaker 2: That explains all these road shows and we're seeing it.
38:42
Speaker 2: They look like junkets really, but they are a desperate
38:46
Speaker 2: fly around to try and get people to pay for
38:50
Speaker 2: what Australian banks won't support anymore in Australia.
38:53
Speaker 4: Do we know who owns this debt? Is?
38:55
Speaker 14: That?
38:56
Speaker 4: Is it?
38:57
Speaker 2: My great concern would be that it's significantly owed by
39:01
Speaker 2: what's the government revealed?
39:02
Speaker 14: Well, nothing, and it's just another example of the lack
39:05
Speaker 14: of financial transparency under this government. Every single day we
39:09
Speaker 14: see another metric change or another metric hidden. We just
39:12
Speaker 14: saw the annual reports dumped on dump day, as you know,
39:14
Speaker 14: two hundred and fifty annual reports dumped on one day,
39:18
Speaker 14: tens of thousands of pages. And when we actually had
39:21
Speaker 14: the opportunity to go through those and your reports in detail,
39:24
Speaker 14: what we saw financial metrics changed or hidden from last year.
39:28
Speaker 14: This government hides the detail of the finances at every opportunity,
39:33
Speaker 14: and the bonds are just another example of that. Victorians
39:35
Speaker 14: have no understanding of who owns Victorian debt.
39:38
Speaker 2: One of the things that I think people still a
39:41
Speaker 2: shock to learn is that governments pay interest on their debt,
39:46
Speaker 2: just like we all do on our mortgage. And yes,
39:48
Speaker 2: those sums you're talking about, you know, thirty million dollars
39:51
Speaker 2: a day. That's a huge amount of money, But it's
39:54
Speaker 2: what you could be spending that money on that matters.
39:58
Speaker 14: This is right, it's actually the opportunity cost of debt.
40:01
Speaker 14: Debt means interest repayments. As you say, it's like a mortgage,
40:03
Speaker 14: you have to pay interest on it. And right now
40:06
Speaker 14: we are paying tens of millions of dollars every single
40:10
Speaker 14: day just on the interest, one point two million dollars
40:12
Speaker 14: an hour.
40:13
Speaker 4: Very soon Victorians will be paying on that interest.
40:15
Speaker 14: That means we can't employ graduate nurses, we can't solve
40:18
Speaker 14: the teacher shortage crisis. It means we can't get enough
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Speaker 14: police on the beat to fix the absolute crime crisis
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Speaker 14: we have in the state. That's the opportunity cost of
40:27
Speaker 14: the government not managing the budget and the finances out
40:29
Speaker 14: of control in this state.
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Speaker 4: It's why all the police station's malven' is a good example.
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Speaker 4: We used to be a twenty four.
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Speaker 2: To seven police station it's now closed for most of
40:38
Speaker 2: the night.
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Speaker 4: We had those statistics out yesterday.
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Speaker 2: One hundred and fifty home invasions in Victoria are per week.
40:46
Speaker 2: Imagine what you could do if you had thirty million
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Speaker 2: dollars a day extra to hire police and keep the
40:51
Speaker 2: police stations open.
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Speaker 14: That's right, and it just comes back to the fact
40:54
Speaker 14: that when we mismanage the finances, like the Allen Labour
40:56
Speaker 14: government continues to do and the Treasurer does every single day.
41:00
Speaker 14: I mean, net debt in Victoria is growing by two
41:02
Speaker 14: million dollars every single hour. The opportunity cost of that
41:06
Speaker 14: means we can't keep police stations open, we can't invest
41:09
Speaker 14: in our schools. And at the same time the government
41:11
Speaker 14: is overseeing that debt increasing. They're ripping two point four
41:15
Speaker 14: billion dollars out of public schools because they can't afford
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Speaker 14: to fund them. This is the cost of mismanaging the
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Speaker 14: finances and Victorians are paying the price here in Victoria.
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Speaker 2: I was struck by a report today from the government's
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Speaker 2: own energy department.
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Speaker 4: This is despite what they promised at the last election.
41:32
Speaker 2: You know, we're going to recreate the State Electricity Corporation,
41:36
Speaker 2: the SEC, and it'll help drive down your power prices.
41:39
Speaker 2: In fact, they've had to revise all of their forecasts
41:42
Speaker 2: sharply upward. Power prices in Victoria, which are already high,
41:47
Speaker 2: are going to climb in further.
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Speaker 14: Well, this is a great example of them talking a
41:51
Speaker 14: big game about bringing back the SEC. But what Victorians
41:54
Speaker 14: are actually experiencing, Victorians who are under immense pressure when
41:57
Speaker 14: it comes to the cost of living, is just their
41:58
Speaker 14: electricity and their gas bills going up. We know in
42:01
Speaker 14: the current quarter September quarter, three point eight percent increase
42:04
Speaker 14: in electricity an eight percent increase in gas. But what
42:07
Speaker 14: that shows, and that was another example of what was
42:09
Speaker 14: hidden in these annual reports, is the Department of Energy
42:12
Speaker 14: itself is saying that we could see up to one
42:14
Speaker 14: hundred and sixty percent increase in the wholesale energy cost.
42:18
Speaker 14: That means that Victorians will be paying rapid amounts more
42:21
Speaker 14: in electricity than what they are paying today. Yet the
42:24
Speaker 14: government is promising under the SEC power prices are going
42:26
Speaker 14: to be lower. It just simply doesn't stack up. Once again, we.
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Speaker 2: Just mentioned crime. I've got to pick up the stories
42:31
Speaker 2: that I had to read it three or four times. Yes,
42:33
Speaker 2: I could believe it. Dozens of Victoria's most violent young
42:36
Speaker 2: offenders have been hit with firearm prohibition orders. Now, these
42:41
Speaker 2: are the sort of orders that I knew in the
42:44
Speaker 2: federal context we use for terrorists and buy keys. But
42:48
Speaker 2: we've got kids as young as fourteen on these orders
42:52
Speaker 2: in Victoria. They can't even get their learners permit in
42:55
Speaker 2: Victoria till their sixteen.
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Speaker 14: I think you're right. So these are orders that are
42:58
Speaker 14: meant for organized for the most serious violence, exactly for
43:02
Speaker 14: the most serious violent offenders, and we're seeing youth offenders
43:05
Speaker 14: in Victoria. I think it just underscores how serious the
43:08
Speaker 14: crime crisis here in this state. But it comes back
43:11
Speaker 14: to what we were talking about earlier, is the financial
43:13
Speaker 14: mismanagement under this labor government. Ten years of the financial
43:16
Speaker 14: mismanagement means we actually can't invest in the rehabilitation programs
43:20
Speaker 14: for young offenders.
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Speaker 4: We can't actually.
43:22
Speaker 14: Make sure that the young offenders, the violent young offenders,
43:25
Speaker 14: are put behind bars when they need to be because
43:27
Speaker 14: we're not investing in our prison system. This is the
43:30
Speaker 14: consequences of the Allen Labor governments financial mismanagement at play
43:34
Speaker 14: when it comes to the crime crisis here in Victoria.
43:36
Speaker 2: Well, this could all soon be your mess chest just
43:38
Speaker 2: quickly and you how do you react to all those
43:41
Speaker 2: stories that you know Queensland real estate agents are inundated
43:45
Speaker 2: with Victorian's just wanting to jump ship.
43:46
Speaker 4: They've just had enough that are out.
43:48
Speaker 2: You lose a tax payer base, you lose small business operators,
43:52
Speaker 2: you lose a big business in industry wanting to come
43:56
Speaker 2: and invest in Victoria.
43:58
Speaker 4: They're avoiding Victoria like the player.
44:00
Speaker 14: I hear it every single day. I hear investors fleeing
44:02
Speaker 14: the state. We see the South Australian Premier knocking at
44:05
Speaker 14: the door, the Queensland Premier and the New South Prayers
44:07
Speaker 14: premier saying why would you want to do business in Victoria.
44:10
Speaker 14: The reality is under a liberal government, taxes will always
44:13
Speaker 14: be lower and we've committed to scrapping five taxes. That
44:16
Speaker 14: means that we're going to be firmly focused on how
44:18
Speaker 14: do we attract investment and capital into Victoria and how
44:21
Speaker 14: do we grow the economy. How do we make our
44:23
Speaker 14: economy more productive? That is my absolute focus as Shadow
44:26
Speaker 14: Treasurer and to deliver that economic vision in advance for
44:29
Speaker 14: the next election.
44:30
Speaker 2: Good Luck and State needs it's mojo back. Thank you,
44:32
Speaker 2: Jos Wilson. I right, I have to break Kelbridge's.
44:39
Speaker 4: Welcome back.
44:40
Speaker 2: We love him, don't we, as he does every Wednesday.
44:42
Speaker 2: Wordsmith and broadcaster Kel Richards Kel this is an interesting one.
44:48
Speaker 4: I know it's gone viral.
44:50
Speaker 2: I know young people love it. I don't understand it.
44:53
Speaker 2: It's a bit like the fad now with clinkers. You
44:55
Speaker 2: know they lovely lollies. That's sort of gone around the world.
44:58
Speaker 2: That means you can't buy clinkers anywhere.
45:00
Speaker 4: But this one's sixty seven. What's this all about?
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Speaker 12: Okay, it's the current youth fad expression. Six' seven means
45:09
Speaker 12: so so, okay but not. Brilliant and when you say,
45:12
Speaker 12: it you meant to move your hands like, this as
45:14
Speaker 12: if you're weighing. Something, oh just so. So that's what
45:17
Speaker 12: six seven. Means it comes From LaMelo, ball who was
45:20
Speaker 12: AN nba player with The Charlotte. Hornets he's a he's
45:25
Speaker 12: very spectacular and swaggers a, lot but despite and very.
45:28
Speaker 12: Popular but despite his, popularity he's only a so so
45:31
Speaker 12: player basketball. Player and his height is six feet seven.
45:37
Speaker 12: Inches that's where the six seven comes. From and he
45:41
Speaker 12: was there was a celebration of him and his height
45:44
Speaker 12: in a rap song talking about six, seven and so
45:48
Speaker 12: the kids picked it up from. That now six to
45:49
Speaker 12: seven means so so, okay.
45:54
Speaker 2: Okay you're so you're saying, that even though he's that,
45:56
Speaker 2: high which is great for, basketball six foot, seven even
45:59
Speaker 2: with that, advantage is just a soso?
46:01
Speaker 4: Player is that the?
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Speaker 12: Gist apparently he apparently his skills are not. Brilliant he's
46:06
Speaker 12: more swagger than performance.
46:10
Speaker 4: Or hat no, cowboy as my dad would.
46:12
Speaker 2: Say callum wants to know about the phrase run the?
46:16
Speaker 4: Gauntlet what does that mean?
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Speaker 12: Exactly, Okay, well it came originally from these sixteen, hundreds
46:23
Speaker 12: and they sometimes pronounced that gauntle. Open they had an odd,
46:26
Speaker 12: pronunciation and it was a military, punishment and the victim
46:30
Speaker 12: was stripped to the waist and had to run between
46:32
Speaker 12: a line of officers who beat him with sticks and knotted.
46:35
Speaker 12: Ropes and they had invented this military discipline because they
46:39
Speaker 12: had a belief there's no evidence for, this but they
46:41
Speaker 12: believed that in The Middle ages there was something similar amongst.
46:44
Speaker 12: Knights someone who's been disciplined by the knights had to
46:47
Speaker 12: run between them and was beaten with the metal gloves
46:51
Speaker 12: that were part of their armor and the metal gloves
46:53
Speaker 12: are called, gauntlets hence running the. Gauntlet there you.
46:59
Speaker 4: Go baited.
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Speaker 2: Breath neil wants to know what baited breath.
47:05
Speaker 12: Means it's subdued or restrained, breathing often because of stress
47:11
Speaker 12: or emotion or something like. That and the baited part
47:14
Speaker 12: of it is what is called the short or ethetic
47:17
Speaker 12: form of the verb to. Abate and the verb to
47:20
Speaker 12: abate came Into english from A french source word meaning
47:25
Speaker 12: to cut down or cut, back so from the verb
47:27
Speaker 12: de bait to baited.
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Speaker 4: Breath so people need to know at home that we
47:32
Speaker 4: do not rehearse.
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Speaker 2: This SO i am just as interested in some of these,
47:36
Speaker 2: answers and many of THEM i don't, know AND i
47:38
Speaker 2: did not. KNOW i use the term bated breath plenty
47:41
Speaker 2: of times in most, weeks BUT i did not know
47:44
Speaker 2: the origins of.
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Speaker 4: IT i love, that thank.
47:45
Speaker 2: You beverly wants to know the origins of the term
47:49
Speaker 2: or the phrase rank outsider.
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Speaker 12: Comes to horse, Racing so it comes from the area
47:54
Speaker 12: you know so. Well first record at eighteen forty, seven
47:57
Speaker 12: and a rank outsider was an outsider at very low,
48:00
Speaker 12: Odds and it comes from a much much older, verb
48:03
Speaker 12: the verb to, rank which was originally a military word
48:06
Speaker 12: meaning to line up in lines or in, order as it.
48:09
Speaker 12: Were so a rank outsider is in one of the
48:12
Speaker 12: very low ranks and has very little. Chance but the
48:16
Speaker 12: expression itself coined in horse.
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Speaker 2: RACING i thought it must have been the first of the.
48:23
Speaker 2: Outsiders you know how you have the, insiders you've got
48:26
Speaker 2: sort of the middle ground in the, field and then
48:28
Speaker 2: you've got the outside field and the rank. OUTSIDER i
48:31
Speaker 2: thought might have been the first of the Out.
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Speaker 12: NO i think it's meant to be the worst of,
48:36
Speaker 12: them the one with the lowest. RANK i think that's
48:38
Speaker 12: what the that's what it. Implies, go it's me all?
48:43
Speaker 2: Right where do we go to add some more into
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Speaker 2: the mix for next?
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Speaker 4: You we would love to hear from.
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Speaker 2: You that's it for me, tonight have lovely evening everyone
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Speaker 2: up next angible