Latest / Urantia Radio / Your Spirit Is Real

Transcript

Your Spirit Is Real · Urantia Radio

• 0:00
  All right, well, everybody is freezing.
• 0:01
  Right now, there's no question about that.
• 0:03
  Welcome to another edition. Of the Rancher Radio Podcast.
• 0:06
  My name is Jim, a long time student.
• 0:09
  And what? Do we talk about what are we?
• 0:11
  Talking about on this program that is so unique from every.
• 0:15
  Other podcast. On the planet.
• 0:17
  Well, first of all. We're talking about something.
• 0:19
  That is a epical revelation. Which means they don't come
• 0:23
  along very often and this one came along about. 60 years ago.
• 0:29
  And there's about a million people around the world.
• 0:31
  That have discovered it, it's it's as if.
• 0:33
  Jesus himself came back like the second coming, only this time
• 0:38
  instead of Jesus coming, he sent his his army of teachers and the
• 0:45
  armies of teachers brilliant personalities on a.
• 0:48
  Spiritual level were. Given permission to inform the.
• 0:53
  World of our. Existence where we came from.
• 0:56
  How we got here? The purpose of.
• 0:58
  God's creation and what happens next?
• 1:02
  That's what this podcast is about.
• 1:04
  It's about. Examining an epical revelation
• 1:08
  now how many podcasts do you know where they focus on epical
• 1:12
  revelations now? I know a lot of.
• 1:16
  Urantia podcasts are out there. This one, probably one of the
• 1:19
  first ones, I think the one that beat me was Cosmic Citizen and
• 1:23
  they're wonderful people and I've been a long time listener
• 1:26
  of that program and a. Lot of these podcasts that are
• 1:30
  about the Urantia book really get.
• 1:32
  Into the neat nooks and crannies of the book.
• 1:36
  But my. Philosophy is I want to.
• 1:38
  Share the truths of the book that should be.
• 1:40
  Inspiring to you? And should.
• 1:43
  Make you want more so that you can it's like nutrition for.
• 1:48
  The spiritual aspect of you. It's like getting a vitamin.
• 1:52
  Boost of B12 but for your spirit.
• 1:57
  And and so. While we do.
• 1:59
  Bounce around a little bit and. It does appear as if I'm.
• 2:03
  Going in all kinds of different directions on on what?
• 2:05
  We talked about there is a. Really a linear progression and
• 2:10
  what I'm trying. To do is talk about.
• 2:12
  Something that will appeal. To a wider group of people.
• 2:15
  Some people might want to find out about.
• 2:17
  Jesus Christ, so we. Spent some time talking about
• 2:20
  him. And his relationships.
• 2:22
  And the truths that. He taught we talk about the
• 2:25
  Bible a lot because the urantia. Book seems to bring to life many
• 2:31
  of the. Biblical truths on a grander.
• 2:33
  Scale and we enjoy that. We love that.
• 2:37
  I'll tell you what else we like to talk about is the.
• 2:39
  History of humanity. There's so much that we don't
• 2:42
  know about ourselves. And if the Urantia book is
• 2:45
  truly. An epical revelation, then it's
• 2:48
  filling in a. Lot of holes.
• 2:49
  And a lot of missing pieces, you know, my wife does.
• 2:54
  Puzzles all the time. She's a puzzle.
• 2:56
  Fanatic. Imagine if you.
• 2:58
  Had a picture. And most.
• 3:01
  Of the pieces of the puzzle. Were missing and you didn't have
• 3:05
  the the. The cover of the puzzle box to
• 3:07
  guide you and you had to figure out what the the picture
• 3:10
  actually. Was well, most of us that walk
• 3:13
  on this planet have really no idea.
• 3:17
  Of what our past was like for the first. 850,000 years of our
• 3:22
  existence the. Urantia book fills.
• 3:25
  In those missing holes. It completes the picture.
• 3:30
  So sometimes we talk about the earth history as.
• 3:33
  Given to us. By the revelators.
• 3:35
  Who tell us they've been here for a long, long time and
• 3:38
  they've been watching us and they're still here and there's a
• 3:41
  spiritual retinue. An actual seraphic.
• 3:44
  Government that. Guides our evolution.
• 3:47
  Along now don't let evolution be.
• 3:50
  A dirty word. It's not the Darwinian devil
• 3:54
  revolution I'm talking. About it's the.
• 3:56
  Cosmic evolution. Remember, God is not in a hurry.
• 4:01
  In fact, the one thing that God has all the time in the world
• 4:04
  time itself and so. We talked about that.
• 4:08
  And we also jump into the more higher concept.
• 4:11
  And talk about spiritual reality.
• 4:14
  Sometimes we talk. About the Spirit.
• 4:16
  That's in you. Sometimes we talk about what's
• 4:18
  going to. Happen when we die and when we
• 4:20
  go to that next place, and then sometimes we talk.
• 4:24
  About the eternal future and what all of this is about so.
• 4:28
  I can't think of a more exciting topic than the.
• 4:31
  Rancho Radio podcast. And you can hear it in my voice.
• 4:35
  I still marvel. At the the.
• 4:38
  Literary genius. Of this text OK so for the last
• 4:42
  couple of episodes we've been really.
• 4:44
  Centering in on. Paper 12 it's.
• 4:47
  Something that I just reread recently and there were so many
• 4:50
  aspects. Of it and we talked.
• 4:52
  About some of the segments in that paper, it's Paper 12, the
• 4:56
  universe of universes now, when we first started talking.
• 5:00
  About it we. Explained the different.
• 5:02
  Levels of space. So think of space from a bird's
• 5:07
  eye. View and at the very center of
• 5:10
  this circle is the the Isle of Paradise.
• 5:14
  And then? Outside of that.
• 5:16
  Surrounding the. Isle of Paradise.
• 5:19
  Is Havona 1 billion perfect worlds?
• 5:22
  Inhabited by perfect. Beings then outside of that
• 5:26
  Havona level. Is the. 7 grand universes, which
• 5:30
  represents the seven. Characteristics of deity, if you
• 5:35
  will. And then outside.
• 5:37
  Of that. 7 super universes. Which is where we exist are the
• 5:40
  three outer levels of space that are.
• 5:43
  Yet uninhabited. And that's what.
• 5:45
  We've talked about since we picked up on Paper 12.
• 5:49
  Now in the. Last couple of chapters of the
• 5:52
  episode we talked about space. And motion and space and time
• 5:57
  and how they intersect and how they interrelate.
• 6:01
  And we also took a dive into. The over control.
• 6:04
  Of the universe in general being in the hands of Deity and the
• 6:08
  Trinity as well. So we've covered a lot of very
• 6:11
  heavy topics, but the best one of all is the.
• 6:14
  One on personal. Reality and we're going to talk
• 6:17
  about that because this is where it gets personal.
• 6:20
  This is where all of. These cosmic realities come down
• 6:25
  and come. Together.
• 6:26
  So we'll talk about that. In just a moment, I do want to
• 6:29
  tell you that I have a sponsor. It is low cost airlines.
• 6:32
  And I decided to allow them to. Sponsor this broadcast because I
• 6:37
  thought it was a real good way for.
• 6:38
  People to save money if. You're going to travel, so if
• 6:41
  you get a airline ticket before. You make plans, call this number
• 6:45
  and see if they can get you a better rate.
• 6:47
  They got me a better rate and you're talking to a live human
• 6:50
  being and you don't. Get all these.
• 6:52
  Questions like give me your e-mail and all.
• 6:54
  They don't. They don't do that.
• 6:56
  You tell them where you want to go when you want to go.
• 6:58
  They give you a price. And then you can decide to move
• 7:01
  forward or not. Anyway, the number is 800.
• 7:04
  654-O. 759 So we're going to come back 01 more time 800. 654.
• 7:12
  O 759. And they're also good for hotels
• 7:15
  too. So if you're just going to stay
• 7:16
  at a hotel. In town somewhere.
• 7:19
  And you want to check out what the best rates are, you can do
• 7:21
  that too. OK, All right, so.
• 7:23
  This break and then we'll come back and talk.
• 7:25
  About the all. Important.
• 7:27
  Final chapter of chapter 12, which is aptly.
• 7:30
  Titled Personal Realities. So now we're going to talk about
• 7:58
  personal realities on a spiritual.
• 8:00
  Level. Up to this point, we've looked
• 8:02
  at the. Physicality.
• 8:04
  The cosmic dimensions of of the universe and all of the other
• 8:07
  universes. The outer rings, the
• 8:09
  uninhabited. Areas of space.
• 8:12
  And this. Is all part of God's?
• 8:13
  Creation. And it is evolving.
• 8:17
  But now we talk. About.
• 8:18
  All of this on a personal level and the importance of
• 8:22
  understanding how the value. Of spirit, really.
• 8:25
  Functions in our living experience.
• 8:28
  Without this spirit. Indwelling into us, we would
• 8:31
  simply be material mortal beings, and material and mortal
• 8:37
  things don't survive death, and I can think of no other.
• 8:42
  Area of the book where it explicitly describes why that
• 8:45
  is. So from Paper 12, Section 9.
• 8:50
  We read that Spirit is the basic personal.
• 8:53
  Reality in the universe, everything that we know about in
• 9:00
  the universe, we know. Because the Spirit.
• 9:05
  Came before. All of it.
• 9:06
  The Spirit. Of God came before the material.
• 9:10
  Reality of God, so it reads, Spirit is the.
• 9:14
  Basic personal reality in the universe and personality.
• 9:17
  Is basic. To all progressing.
• 9:19
  Experience with spiritual. Reality.
• 9:21
  So personality is key because you and I possess a unique
• 9:26
  personality no one else can be exactly like.
• 9:30
  Us. This is why the sum of.
• 9:35
  The human part is not measurable in terms of quantity.
• 9:39
  You can't put a quantity on personality.
• 9:42
  You can put a quality, but you can't put a quantity.
• 9:45
  We are not a sum of our parts. God does not look at all.
• 9:49
  Of us. In a quantifiable, you know, per
• 9:52
  unit, there are so many of these and and this book, this section
• 9:57
  gets into. That a little bit every.
• 9:58
  Phase of personality experience it reads on every successive.
• 10:03
  Level. Of universe progression swarms
• 10:06
  with clues. To the discovery.
• 10:08
  Of alluring personal realities, man's true destiny consists in
• 10:13
  the creation of new. And spirit goals.
• 10:16
  And then in responding to the cosmic allurements of such of.
• 10:20
  Such supernal goals. Of non material.
• 10:22
  Value love is the secret. Of beneficial association
• 10:29
  between personalities. You cannot really know a person.
• 10:33
  As a result. Of a single contact.
• 10:35
  You cannot appreciatingly know music through mathematical
• 10:39
  deduction, even though music is a form of mathematical rhythm.
• 10:44
  The number assigned to a telephone subscriber does not in
• 10:48
  any manner. Identify the.
• 10:49
  Personality of that subscriber or signifying anything
• 10:54
  concerning his character and this is where they talk about
• 10:57
  the difference between material science and.
• 11:00
  Spiritual reality and. It gets.
• 11:03
  Real deep here especially. If you tend to lean along, the
• 11:07
  more analytical, pragmatic. View of life.
• 11:10
  Which many, many people do. Many people are materialist and
• 11:14
  they are begging you to show some proof or some existence.
• 11:18
  Of spirit they're begging you to.
• 11:19
  But they know you can't, because the world they live in is based
• 11:23
  purely on material science, that which we can prove so from.
• 11:28
  Paper 12, section. Nine in addressing this very.
• 11:32
  Issue it reads. That mathematics, material
• 11:35
  science is indispensable to the intelligent discussion of the
• 11:39
  material. Aspects.
• 11:40
  Of the universe, but such knowledge is not necessarily a
• 11:44
  part. Of the higher.
• 11:45
  Realization of truth. Or the.
• 11:47
  Personal appreciation of. Spiritual realities not.
• 11:51
  Only in the realms of life, but even in the world's of physical
• 11:55
  energy, the sum of two or more. Things is very.
• 11:59
  Often something more than or something different from.
• 12:02
  The predictive or predictable. Additives and consequences of
• 12:07
  such unions. The entire science of
• 12:09
  mathematics. The whole domain.
• 12:12
  Of philosophy, the highest physics or.
• 12:14
  Chemistry could not or know that the union of two gaseous
• 12:19
  hydrogen atoms with one gaseous oxygen atom would result in a
• 12:25
  new and qualitatively super additive substance.
• 12:29
  Liquid water the. Understanding of knowledge and
• 12:33
  this one physiochemical phenomena should have prevented
• 12:37
  the development of a materialistic philosophy and a
• 12:40
  mechanistic cosmology should have could have, but maybe it
• 12:46
  still can think about what they just said there material science
• 12:51
  could never predict. That if you put H2O together it
• 12:55
  would create water because every.
• 12:57
  Element of H. 2O is. Combustible in theory.
• 13:01
  You would predict. That putting such chemical
• 13:05
  molecules. Together would actually.
• 13:07
  Cause something to explode, but in fact you come with liquid
• 13:11
  water and it is one of the most common elements.
• 13:14
  By the way. Hydrogen certainly the most
• 13:16
  common element, so they're using that as an illustration that
• 13:21
  sometimes material science can't explain everything, and rarely.
• 13:26
  Are are two. Individual anythings more than
• 13:30
  just being additive as 1 + 1 = 2, it's 1 + 1 equals.
• 13:35
  Who knows, it could be something else totally different.
• 13:40
  So it reads from paper 12-9 paragraph 4.
• 13:44
  Technical analysis did not does not reveal what a person or a
• 13:48
  thing can do. For example, water is used.
• 13:51
  Effectively to extinguish fire. That water would put out fire as
• 13:55
  a fact. Of everyday experience and no
• 13:57
  analysis of water could ever be made.
• 13:59
  To disclose such a property. Analysis determines that water
• 14:05
  is composed of hydrogen and oxygen, and a further study of
• 14:08
  these elements discloses that oxygen is the real supporter of
• 14:12
  combustion and that. Hydrogen will itself freely
• 14:15
  burn. And then they make a real quick
• 14:19
  change and they go from that example to this.
• 14:23
  It says your. Religion is becoming real
• 14:25
  because it is emerging from the. Slavery of fear.
• 14:28
  And the bondage of superstition. Your philosophy struggles.
• 14:32
  For emancipation from dogma and tradition, your science is
• 14:37
  engaged in the age long contest between truth and error.
• 14:42
  While it fights. For deliverance from the bondage
• 14:46
  of abstraction and I, and I've long pondered what that means.
• 14:50
  What does that mean when it says?
• 14:51
  It fights for the. Deliverance from the bondage.
• 14:54
  Of abstraction. I sense that what it means is
• 14:58
  that. As hard as.
• 14:59
  The material scientists will. Try at the.
• 15:02
  End of the. Day without adding.
• 15:04
  The spiritual element of any. Observable theory it.
• 15:09
  Still doesn't disclose its. Value based purely.
• 15:13
  On a material observation, there's still going to be
• 15:18
  something that's missing, and that's why it remains abstract.
• 15:23
  So while the. Scientist is looking.
• 15:25
  For Deliverance. From that.
• 15:27
  Slavery of abstraction. The slavery of mathematics and
• 15:32
  the relative blindness of mechanistic materialism.
• 15:36
  It never arrives. At the full truth.
• 15:38
  Because it isn't taking into account.
• 15:40
  The Spiritual aspect of All Reality from Paper 12. 9 The
• 15:47
  final. Paragraph Mortal man.
• 15:50
  Has a spirit nucleus. The mind is a personal energy
• 15:54
  system existing around a divine spark nucleus and functioning in
• 15:59
  a material environment. Such a living relationship of
• 16:03
  personal mind and spirit constitutes the universal
• 16:08
  potential for eternal personality.
• 16:13
  Real trouble. Lasting disappointment serious.
• 16:16
  Defeat. Or inescapable death can only
• 16:20
  come after self concepts presumed fully to displace the
• 16:25
  governing power of the central. Spirit nucleus thereby.
• 16:30
  Disrupting the cosmic scheme of personality identity.
• 16:35
  Now that has to be. Read or thought?
• 16:37
  About, but essentially. It says that it's it's.
• 16:40
  Really our own decision with that line, it's our judgement
• 16:47
  that defeats us, our own judgement that sometimes defeats
• 16:51
  us. And when we decide that
• 16:54
  ultimately we can't. Believe.
• 16:58
  Because we can't see. We can't.
• 16:59
  Evaluate the Spirit. Nucleus of every personality and
• 17:04
  by refusing to accept. That aspect of the truth we are
• 17:08
  really. Causing our own.
• 17:09
  Spiritual suicide by. Refusing in.
• 17:13
  Jesus words to. Be born again.
• 17:15
  Be born of the. Spirit there has.
• 17:16
  To come a point in a human being's life where they make a
• 17:20
  final decision on whether they. Believe that there is the.
• 17:24
  Potential for eternal life. And I don't know what happens if
• 17:27
  a person doesn't make that decision.
• 17:31
  Does my spirit make up 1% of me? Does it make up 10%?
• 17:35
  If it makes up 0%, then then it wouldn't be possible for me for
• 17:40
  to make that spiritual transformation inescapable.
• 17:45
  Death only comes. After self concepts refuse to.
• 17:49
  Acknowledge the spiritual nucleus.
• 17:52
  So it ultimately have to be our own decision and and I'm not
• 17:56
  going to let that gas tank ever get empty.
• 18:00
  I'm going to keep an eye. On that spiritual.
• 18:01
  Gauge and make sure it's at. Least half.
• 18:04
  Full so I don't have to worry about running out of gas.
• 18:10
  So we'll see you again. Don't forget we are on all of
• 18:13
  your. Favorite podcast players?
• 18:15
  And we love when you show up and share the Urantia Radio.
• 18:19
  Podcast. If you can't take a little
• 18:22
  bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under
• 18:24
  your bed. It's not safe out here.
• 18:27
  It's wondrous with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and
• 18:32
  gross. But it's not for them to.