Latest / Privycast / Ep. 127 Urinals and Standing to Pee
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- 0:00>> Speaker A: And I'm here to tell you the language in a
- 0:03patent is wild because they have to
- 0:06describe in detail down to,
- 0:09like, the minute functioning of every
- 0:12portion of the mechanics of their
- 0:14patent.
- 0:19Welcome back to privy. Privy
- 0:22is a podcast about bathrooms
- 0:25recorded from my home
- 0:27bathroom. I'm your host, hunter hoover,
- 0:31and I love bathrooms. Thank you guys so much for
- 0:34being here. Thanks for joining us. Here I am in my home
- 0:37bathroom once again, the old.
- 0:40The old steed. Uh, and we
- 0:43are fully into the spring season. You can. You can
- 0:46probably hear it in my voice. My family and I, uh,
- 0:49we did a little fire pit this evening, and anytime you do a fire
- 0:52pit, you got to get your. You really got to get your
- 0:55whole snoot right up in the mix to really get
- 0:58the fire really stewing and brewing. You
- 1:01kind of got to get your whole mug down in there,
- 1:04and it. And it just. It just smokes you out.
- 1:07And as a result, it just kind of makes the
- 1:10whole situation a little raspier. And
- 1:13so, forgive me. Forgive me for my raspberry.
- 1:16Uh, forgive
- 1:19me for the rasp. But it's the spring season. The
- 1:22allergies are already real.
- 1:25And at the point of this episode, it.
- 1:27Today at the recording is April Fool's
- 1:30day. Happy April Fool's day, everyone. Uh, it's late
- 1:33by the time you're hearing this, but I don't really care.
- 1:35Uh, again, if you pulled any. If you
- 1:38pulled any fun pranks, uh, let us know on the
- 1:41privy socials. We'd love to see and hear
- 1:44about those. You can send us an
- 1:45email@privycastmail.com, or share us
- 1:48on social rivycast. Um, and last
- 1:51month, we discussed feminine hygiene. It
- 1:54was International Women's Day. Uh,
- 1:57and also, it was kind of women's month.
- 1:59So, ladies, good job. I hope
- 2:02you enjoyed it. Uh, right at the end, our
- 2:05beloved president tried to shoehorn a whole group of people in
- 2:08on it. But.
- 2:11And in a statement that is probably all together
- 2:14out of place, I
- 2:17gotta say, you know, we have this month,
- 2:20this is. Hello, I'm a white
- 2:22man. Um, so,
- 2:25obviously, I'm an idiot, but
- 2:30for the first time in all of time, the guys were kind of
- 2:33left out. Like, they didn't really get much of the action.
- 2:36Last month, it was kind of, you know.
- 2:38And so this week on privy, I thought. I thought we would
- 2:41venture into the boys space a little bit. We're
- 2:44going to talk sort of a little bit about
- 2:48something that is very, very akin
- 2:50to being a guy.
- 2:52Um, but before we fully launch into
- 2:55that, uh,
- 2:57we got some things that we need to talk about. We're
- 3:00going to discuss urinals and we're going to discuss.
- 3:03And we're going to kind of trace, not trace
- 3:06in like the snow here. You'll see. But like
- 3:09the history of men standing to pee. Why do
- 3:12men stand to pee? And better yet, should
- 3:15they stand to pee? We're going to seek to answer those
- 3:18questions this week on preview.
- 3:26I'm going to go ahead right at the top here. We got a way to grip
- 3:29and rip. I'm thirsty.
- 3:33There's something about a fire pit that just creates a real thirst.
- 3:36Now, the history of men
- 3:38standing to pee is really not as
- 3:41interesting as the history of urinals.
- 3:44Or better yet, the development
- 3:48of the social norms behind
- 3:50standing to pee. It's pretty
- 3:53straightforward. Men, you see, men
- 3:56have a PP,
- 3:58and the PP that men have
- 4:02is it makes it easier
- 4:05for them to stand and go pee.
- 4:08And I say easier because women
- 4:11can stand in pee and as we're going
- 4:14to see often have throughout history. But
- 4:17it takes some work and maneuvering to do
- 4:20so without whizzing on yourself
- 4:23or as it has been put to me, peeing in your
- 4:26shoe. And I think the best
- 4:29method for ladies, ladies allow me to mansplain how
- 4:32to pee standing up is the idea
- 4:35of like the bear hug around the tree. You can use like a
- 4:37ratchet strap or a sweatshirt. And you go around the tree and you just
- 4:40kind, you kind of hang back. You kind of drop deaf,
- 4:43you know, you kind of, you kind of throw that, throw that
- 4:46butt back there and just sling it back.
- 4:49And now in this squat position,
- 4:52you just let fly. Um,
- 4:56you can also do the hang.
- 4:59You can kind of hang beef and let it
- 5:01ride. But essentially you are
- 5:04holding onto something and then putting your butt,
- 5:07leaning back into this semi squat
- 5:10hanging position wherein you're peeing.
- 5:13Totally flattering ladies hanging beef.
- 5:15But it'll get the job done. It
- 5:18squares out. Uh, it serves its purpose. You know, it helps
- 5:21you void. But men
- 5:24have this extra digit
- 5:27that makes standing to pee a lot
- 5:30easier. Like just a lot easier.
- 5:33It also makes writing and drawing or spelling your
- 5:36name, uh, in the snow a lot easier.
- 5:38Or as I received an image,
- 5:42you can, you can mark your territory when you
- 5:45visit various national parks, shout out,
- 5:48you know who you are.
- 5:51So, yeah, uh, the beginning, that's the beginning of
- 5:54men standing to pee. Pretty much as long as men
- 5:57have been peeing, they've been standing to pee.
- 6:02And it kind of seems like that continued for a
- 6:05long time.
- 6:08Also, keep in mind,
- 6:11for hundreds of years when you went to the bathroom,
- 6:14you went straight into nature. You just
- 6:17blasted straight back into the source. You
- 6:20know, what goes around comes around.
- 6:23It's the circle of
- 6:26life, and
- 6:29it m moves it. I don't know. I'm going to
- 6:32get slapped with some sort of copyright infringement if
- 6:35I keep singing, because old Mickey Mouse, old
- 6:38Michael E. Mouse is going to come and
- 6:40sanction me.
- 6:43Tyrant. Uh,
- 6:46but
- 6:49they were often not really worried about where the
- 6:52material went, like,
- 6:54up. And that's kind of the end of the
- 6:57concern. And as developments in
- 7:00cleanliness grew, you know, people began to
- 7:03realize, we need to spend less time in
- 7:05contact with the things that have already processed and come
- 7:08out of our bodies. With the
- 7:11creation of the piss pot and the privy
- 7:14and later the toilet, these all
- 7:17began to have an impact on
- 7:20the development and
- 7:22progression of men standing to
- 7:25pee. You have to
- 7:27remember, men can pee
- 7:30where men and women must sit,
- 7:33and so there must be some splashing
- 7:36involved. Like when you. I'm going to tell you right now, as
- 7:39a guy who pees standing up frequently,
- 7:42there is splashing involved. And part of, and
- 7:45part of growing up, part of parents,
- 7:48if you are parents of boys, part of
- 7:51raising boys is to teach
- 7:54them to manage their p. Stream
- 7:56it. And I'm gonna be honest, it is the job
- 7:59of the dad. But moms,
- 8:02you guys are superheroes, and you probably are
- 8:05doing this too. But like
- 8:09every, every man person,
- 8:11every male person with the male
- 8:14wiener has made a mess. Peeing,
- 8:17it's just part of it. It's part of the game.
- 8:20And it seems that
- 8:23with this splashing,
- 8:28the seated options for
- 8:31bathrooms developed in men,
- 8:34even though they're splashing, would still opt
- 8:37to stand. But
- 8:40there are records of sitting. In
- 8:43some instances, new technologies
- 8:45developed. One of these was.
- 8:48Can be found in
- 8:51archaeological digs, uh, in Sri
- 8:53Lanka, uh, around the year
- 8:55800. Uh, they believed that
- 8:58this was part of a monastery, but they dug up what
- 9:01they believe to be one of the oldest
- 9:04and most rudimentary
- 9:07inground urinals. And,
- 9:10um, the development here makes a lot of
- 9:12sense. This urinal is probably one of
- 9:15many that became standard in buddhist
- 9:18monasteries. These were often
- 9:21habited primarily or only these monasteries,
- 9:24were they housed primarily or
- 9:27only men? And as such, it would be
- 9:30standard in the monastery to stand. To pee. You
- 9:33don't need sitting pee
- 9:35stations. It is also
- 9:38because of how they had to dispose of their waste,
- 9:41um, to pee and poop
- 9:44into the same spot made just dealing with what could be
- 9:47a simple job, peeing more
- 9:50costly time,
- 9:52time impeding
- 9:56and it just took more of your time because now you have to,
- 9:58like, scoop the poo out of where you peed
- 10:01as well, where if you poo and pee in separate
- 10:04spots, you can sometimes just dump, um, the
- 10:06pee. And so the idea of what
- 10:09they have going on here is it's like you pee into
- 10:12the hole, and now you don't have to deal with the poop, you
- 10:15just have the pee to deal with.
- 10:18Ingenuity. Since you would just be
- 10:21urinating these vessels and the cleaning rituals that
- 10:24followed could be more appropriately
- 10:29tailored to address the specific bathrooming
- 10:32job that you did. Did peeing in a space separate
- 10:35from where you would poo ensured easier bathing and
- 10:37easier collection for cleaning. Essentially, what this
- 10:40thing looks like, this sri lankan buddhist
- 10:43monastery urinal, is, it's like a stone
- 10:46slab with these two pegs where you would put
- 10:49your feet,
- 10:52and then there's just like a hole, and you would pee through the hole and it
- 10:55would go into like, a pot or a cistern or something.
- 10:59And that is what it is.
- 11:05This is likely the first urinal, but I'm going to be
- 11:08honest, it's really just a hole in the ground.
- 11:11And by this definition, my buddies and I peed into,
- 11:14quote unquote gopher hole urinals when we were a
- 11:17kid, if you know what I'm saying.
- 11:20Really, the next big strides in urinal
- 11:22technology were in the french pissoirs. And you can go
- 11:25listen to our. Our entire episode on
- 11:28these. I think it's just called something piss
- 11:30wars. Wee wee
- 11:33monsoor. Um, why are the
- 11:35French got so much to do with bathrooms?
- 11:38Like, I feel like every time I talk about
- 11:41bathrooms, I'm talking about the freaking Romans and
- 11:44the French. Why.
- 11:48Why do they get their snoot on
- 11:51this seat so often?
- 11:53They don't even shave their armpits. Figure it out.
- 11:57But, uh, the idea of a place
- 12:00to pee with these
- 12:03pissoirs that were installed in public and
- 12:05hooked to the newly renovated
- 12:08french sewer, uh, system
- 12:11made the idea of public
- 12:14places to use restrooms a little more
- 12:16prominent. The word about these public
- 12:19pisswars spread, and as it did, they were adapted in
- 12:21other countries and large cities.
- 12:24And there isn't really a lot of development in the world
- 12:27of urinals. These, again, were essentially a
- 12:30hole that you pee into. But they were technically not
- 12:32urinals because they
- 12:35could receive solids. Now, you shouldn't
- 12:38do it, but they did do it.
- 12:41The next strides in urinal technology
- 12:44came in the time of the American Civil
- 12:47War.
- 12:52The first us patent for a urinal is
- 12:55registered to a man named Andrew Rankin.
- 12:58He was granted this patent on March
- 13:0027, 1866. And I say
- 13:03registered to because there's some
- 13:06scuttlebutt here, some
- 13:08sources, and they all seem to be quoting from the
- 13:11same source without ever stating what that source
- 13:14was. Um, all state
- 13:17that this was a wall mounted urinal, which is the first
- 13:20time in all this that the urinal in
- 13:23question looks at all like what we are thinking in our brain
- 13:26when we think of a urinal today.
- 13:28But. But the scuttlebutt here is that
- 13:31Andrew Rankin did not invent it, that it was actually
- 13:34invented by a woman. And the way the story
- 13:37goes is that because women were not allowed
- 13:40to hold patents at the time, and the
- 13:42US patent Office thought it completely insane that
- 13:45a woman would be developing a men's
- 13:48urinating vessel, they would not
- 13:50grant her the patent. And so Andrew Rankin
- 13:53swooped in, pretty much stole the idea.
- 13:57Uh, and I want to know. The woman is not named, so there's not
- 14:00a way to give her credit if this is true. But what's
- 14:02interesting about the patent, you can. And I don't know if you know
- 14:05this, but you can just go online
- 14:08to Google and you can just go read
- 14:11patents. Like, you can just read the language in
- 14:14any patent, if something's patented, you can probably look it up
- 14:17on Google, see the images, read the
- 14:19description language. And I'm here to tell
- 14:22you, the language in a patent is
- 14:25wild because they have to describe in
- 14:28detail, down to, like, the
- 14:30minute functioning of every portion
- 14:33of the mechanics m of their patent.
- 14:36What this means is something even as simple as
- 14:39a wall mounted journal has a pretty
- 14:42wild patent description. But what's
- 14:45interesting is when you read through this patent
- 14:49is
- 14:52sometimes in Rankin's. In the
- 14:55case of Rankine's urinal, which is the name of
- 14:57this unit, by the way, it
- 15:00makes it seem like he might be
- 15:03stealing the idea. Like, if you name. If
- 15:06I named my, uh, video
- 15:09online video service, hunters
- 15:11YouTube, it kind of seems like I'm.
- 15:14I'm stealing a little bit of an idea. Do you know what I'm saying? So
- 15:17Rankin's urinal much, um,
- 15:20of the design and the language that he includes. And this
- 15:23is, I think, another tale that we can key in, that
- 15:26maybe this was designed by a lady,
- 15:29is it's less
- 15:31focused on letting men
- 15:34pee standing upright.
- 15:37And the device, the urinal itself,
- 15:43seems designed to be
- 15:46focused on controlling the smell that
- 15:49is created by urine
- 15:51sitting. The patent mentions
- 15:54numerous times being able to put deodorizing
- 15:57agent in the urinal to reduce the smell.
- 16:00Fascinating about all this is, you hear that, men?
- 16:03So, ladies, I don't know if you know this, but
- 16:06in a urinal where men blast urine
- 16:09is a little disc, uh, called a urinal cake. You
- 16:12probably know what a urinal cake is, but if you've never seen it, it's always a
- 16:15thrill because they do kind of smell nice,
- 16:19and they do make the experience of peeing really
- 16:22cool. Uh,
- 16:25but what's interesting is his patent
- 16:28is rife with language about this deodorizing
- 16:30agent. But his patent
- 16:34came 20 years prior to the
- 16:37urinal cake being patented and developed.
- 16:40But that's for another day. In
- 16:43short, the modern urinal had, for all
- 16:46intents and purposes, been invented.
- 16:49These urinals became standard installment
- 16:52in factories during the industrial revolution.
- 16:55Reason being, many of these factories were
- 16:57staffed only or primarily by men.
- 17:00As such, prior to the invention, it would be
- 17:03common for. For workplaces not
- 17:06to provide a place to pee. They would have a
- 17:09toilet for men to poop. And it
- 17:12was frowned upon for men to walk to that
- 17:15toilet to pee. Time is money, and if you're
- 17:17peeing, you ain't making money. And so
- 17:20men would opt to just pee right onto the floor,
- 17:23into the corner. You got to establish a pee corner. And in
- 17:26the american revolution, they did. Or
- 17:29industrial revolution. My bad. I'm not a historian. I've
- 17:32never claimed to be. I, um, am.
- 17:35But. So it's. So it's whack.
- 17:39They got. They got pee on the ground, pee on their
- 17:42pants, and they're working with food, sometimes
- 17:45packing industries. It's not sanitary, it's not
- 17:48good. Uh, but it was
- 17:50the scope. But these urinals
- 17:53save space. They saved time. They
- 17:56improved hygiene and the working conditions
- 17:59and allowed men to pee and get back to work
- 18:01faster. You can,
- 18:05for, like, the same space that it would take to
- 18:07have one toilet, you can put two to three urinals in that
- 18:10space. Urinals are also less
- 18:13intensive on the plumbing.
- 18:20What's truly interesting is the role women
- 18:23begin to play in the development of urinal culture
- 18:26for men. During the women's
- 18:29suffrage movement, it was a common point for
- 18:32many of the men who were against women to
- 18:34gain the right to vote, to
- 18:37tout their ability to stand
- 18:39NP as a mark for
- 18:42why they were superior as
- 18:45men over women. Now,
- 18:49first of all, we've made some jokes this episode,
- 18:53but to the idea that you are able to
- 18:56stand up, um, that
- 18:58NP, and that makes you better
- 19:01shut up. That's. It's not
- 19:04that cool of a trick. Like, it's kind of cool, but it's not
- 19:07that cool of a trick. And
- 19:12one. And also, women can stand
- 19:15to pee. A, uh, reality that I
- 19:18became all too aware of when an
- 19:20unfortunately uncensored image on Wikipedia
- 19:23was all too keen to demonstrate that to me.
- 19:26Wild. That that's just on the Internet loose like that.
- 19:30Wikipedia, censor your crap a little better.
- 19:33But as such, men began to make it a bigger
- 19:36and bigger deal about being able to stand
- 19:39to pee. Wee. Look at me. I can vote, and I
- 19:42don't have to sit to pee. This morphed
- 19:45into a cultural phenomenon
- 19:49in which men were then expected
- 19:52to stand to pee. It kind of had a little bit of
- 19:55sexism attached to it. If you sat to pee,
- 19:58maybe you're a little bit more of a lady. That's where this
- 20:00idea comes from. This coupled
- 20:03with the janky history of women's public
- 20:06bathrooms, which there was a huge
- 20:09shortage of at the outset because women were expected
- 20:12to be at the home. And when they began to enter
- 20:15the workforce, there was this awkward, like, oh, shoot, they need a
- 20:18different place to go to the bathroom. We need to have a women's
- 20:21bathroom. Also, at the
- 20:24beginning, a lot of times they charged women
- 20:27to use the public restrooms. They had pay
- 20:29toilets. And while they were not just
- 20:32for women, women could not pee in the streets. And
- 20:35so it kind of became just for women,
- 20:38because men, instead of paying, they just go blast it right into the
- 20:41street, where women were like, I'm not doing that.
- 20:44And as these amenities became more.
- 20:48More public and they didn't have
- 20:51to pay, and they began to make strides
- 20:54in making bathroom access more
- 20:58of a reality to everyone,
- 21:01people began to make a realization.
- 21:05We don't like it when
- 21:07creepy Doug blasts
- 21:10his stream in the middle of the street
- 21:13in front of every. We're just coming out of target, and dudes
- 21:16peeing on the cart. Like, figure it
- 21:19out. Sort yourself, ma'am.
- 21:22No, sir. You
- 21:24know, ladies on this,
- 21:28but. And
- 21:31so it went. For some time, pay toilets
- 21:34and public restrooms were a toilet, no
- 21:36urinal. But as it became free, we
- 21:39began to have men's and women's rooms.
- 21:42Urinals were started to be installed
- 21:45as it allowed men to pee and get in and out
- 21:47quicker. Think of how many times
- 21:51you've been to a state fair, amusement park, or some
- 21:54sort of venue. Any,
- 21:57really, anywhere where there's a large gathering of people and the women's
- 22:00restroom line is always longer than the
- 22:03men's. I've never seen it the other way. I'm sure it's happened.
- 22:06I've never seen it. And the reason
- 22:09usually is, if you have to pee,
- 22:11women still have to go about the same
- 22:14process of taking the drawers down,
- 22:17sitting, doing the business where men, you
- 22:20have fewer toilets, you can have urinals which save space. You
- 22:23can have more urinals in that amount of space. It saves
- 22:26water. It saves time. And for many
- 22:29businesses, if this was an option
- 22:31to install urinals, it was a no brainer. It saved your water
- 22:34consumption, it saved your
- 22:38time, of your employees. It's less
- 22:40paper, all of these things.
- 22:43And this distinction turned into
- 22:46a further distinction.
- 22:49If a man can use a urinal,
- 22:53then it must be what a man does to stand
- 22:56in pee. And that's kind of the thinking.
- 22:59And I know there's some whack job out there who will one
- 23:01day make the argument that it's sexist to stand and
- 23:04pee. If you stand and pee, you're being a sexist
- 23:07pee. I know that argument exists. I know
- 23:10someone out there is going to make it, but shut up.
- 23:13That's stupid. But that's
- 23:16kind of the thinking. It's annoying.
- 23:19And they're already trying to install urinals in
- 23:22women's bathrooms. Now, I should note, this is
- 23:25not a women's urinal which exists.
- 23:28They are trying to put men's urinals in
- 23:31women's restrooms so men who want to
- 23:34make believe can still go in there and pee in a
- 23:36urinal, whatever.
- 23:39As noted, there are also women's journals
- 23:42for actual, real women. And that brings us
- 23:45to this segment of poo in the
- 23:48news.
- 23:54This poo in the news was published
- 23:57eight days ago at the. This episode's release, it looks
- 24:00like March 23
- 24:03ish. And it's published by the
- 24:05BBC News of west England. And it's
- 24:08titled Pair behind female
- 24:11eyeing up european expansion.
- 24:16They note that the company
- 24:18Pequol, designed by
- 24:21these two ladies in Europe, um,
- 24:26and it was designed to reduce time spent
- 24:29waiting in line for the women's
- 24:31room. The 25
- 24:34and 26 year old say that these are
- 24:37six times quicker to use than a regular
- 24:40toilet. And the team have raised
- 24:43500,000 euro. I don't know how much
- 24:45dollars that is. It's probably like $15. No, I'm just
- 24:48kidding. Um, and they're going to
- 24:51continue to improve the product. They're expanding into
- 24:54Germany and Netherlands. Uh, and
- 24:57I should describe these,
- 24:59uh, the ones that they have. They
- 25:02look like these multi, like, stepped up into
- 25:05rims. And when you get in there,
- 25:08you have this, like, privacy thing.
- 25:11You have enough privacy to where you can pull your drawers
- 25:14down and do your thing. Um,
- 25:17and it's got a thing
- 25:19that minimizes splash. Very good. When you're
- 25:22trying to use a urinal, by the way, I've shared at
- 25:25length at my job at the high school
- 25:28there, there is an in ground urinal that I
- 25:31use frequently. And when you wear shorts and use
- 25:34that urinal, you definitely feel the splashback. That's
- 25:37all I'm saying.
- 25:40But they have investors and they begin to
- 25:43drag these things out at festivals.
- 25:46Ah. And it's a shift in behavior. At the start,
- 25:49uh, a lot of people were like, I
- 25:52don't know about it, but when you don't
- 25:55have to wait in a regular 15 minutes line,
- 25:57the option is suddenly, like, there. They say,
- 26:02they, they say that
- 26:05the biggest thing is like, oh, the impact on the climate.
- 26:08It's fine. We're gonna be fine. In
- 26:11addition, uh, they're trying to make the
- 26:13units out of plastic from the ocean. And
- 26:16they're in discussion about collecting the
- 26:19urine in the bottom and it being used to turn into
- 26:22fertilizer. Now, uh, I want to
- 26:25note, I looked at these, I had to go look
- 26:28these up to see what these look like. And, uh, they're
- 26:31kind of cool looking, I'm not going to lie. But here's the deal. The
- 26:34mechanism by which women you would squat and
- 26:37pee in this is literally, it's
- 26:40a man made device to allow women to do the squat and
- 26:43hover bear hug method I mentioned earlier. It's
- 26:45just inside of a plastic cage rather than wrap
- 26:48your butt around a tree. And if you don't believe me,
- 26:51go look this up on YouTube. It's pretty clear what's going on.
- 26:54You pretty much like brace, hang beef, let's bray,
- 26:57move on. It's pretty cool. It's a path
- 27:00forward, giving women something that's for them to
- 27:03use, that is quick, like what men have, rather than
- 27:06just making the experience the same as a
- 27:08man's. This brings us to
- 27:11the end of poo in the news.
- 27:18It should also be noted in the standing to
- 27:20pee and urinal technology. We have two other things we need
- 27:23to discuss. First is
- 27:26the concept of portable urinals. Now, while
- 27:29I think the distinction between these and
- 27:32piss pots is essentially shape like,
- 27:37some of these ancient portable urinals are wild.
- 27:40And I have to say this. The
- 27:43opening of the portable
- 27:46urinal I, uh, you need, well, imagine a watering
- 27:48can. But instead of like a nice little
- 27:51spout is what appears to be like a two inch
- 27:54hole that protrudes from the spout itself. The pot
- 27:57itself.
- 27:59I'll post pictures of these out on the privy social. But
- 28:02yeah, people were definitely sticking
- 28:06stuff into these devices. It's wild.
- 28:10Also, this is another thing of
- 28:13feedback to those of ancient history.
- 28:16Don't make the portable urinals look like
- 28:19animals. And if you're gonna make them look like
- 28:22animals, like if you can't help it, don't
- 28:25make the hole on the portable
- 28:28urinal correspond to a hole that could be found
- 28:30on the real life version of the animal.
- 28:33Stop it. So many of
- 28:36these is like the mouth of the animal
- 28:38is the receptor hole.
- 28:41Please dear Lord, help us. Why
- 28:45the guys like spray into the container and then they dump it
- 28:48in an appropriate spot. And I think these actually probably
- 28:51had some religious usage. If you go back far enough,
- 28:54they just did it wherever. But if you need to get
- 28:57outside the camp or outside
- 29:00of some sort of an area that
- 29:03was affected by worship, this would
- 29:06definitely make disposing of your
- 29:09waste out of those areas much easier.
- 29:12They have found these in all sorts of ruins from ancient
- 29:14Japan in the Europe in the 500s. It's
- 29:17wild stuff.
- 29:20The other stand to pee technology is a
- 29:23modern invention and it seeks to make
- 29:26the urinal using process less of a thing for
- 29:29just men. And add the experience for the
- 29:32ladies. Ladies, this one's for you.
- 29:36While much of this technology is pretty new,
- 29:38most of it came about in the last hundred years. It is
- 29:41really the updating and development of women's
- 29:44clothing to allow for easier bathrooming while
- 29:47standing pants, if you will. Uh uh.
- 29:50Because a long time ago, like you go back 100,
- 29:522150 years, women didn't wear pants. It was
- 29:55like, what is wrong with her? But they're
- 29:58essentially devices for the collection or
- 30:01aiming of urine. One
- 30:03popular device is this cone shaped thing. And
- 30:06I think the woman holds it to
- 30:09her zone while standing to pee. And then it comes
- 30:12out the end in what looks like a more aim
- 30:15friendly shape. Others seek
- 30:18to collect it for the lady and then dump it in the toilet.
- 30:21Similar to the urinal situation,
- 30:25the most popular of these, something called the
- 30:28urinal, originated in France and
- 30:30entered widespread use in 1996.
- 30:33But here's the deal. There are
- 30:36countless accounts and images of women
- 30:39standing to pee in pots and things throughout
- 30:42history. It's the
- 30:44urinal that fouls us up because
- 30:47you can't really stand and hover over your. No, not
- 30:50well. And that brings us back to
- 30:53the question. Men stand to pee. And
- 30:56the urinal followed. But should
- 30:59men stand to pee?
- 31:07There's been a lot of debate about this in recent times
- 31:10and as we will
- 31:13see in times past, about whether men standing
- 31:16to pee has any health
- 31:18risks. And this
- 31:21original hypothesis dates back to
- 31:241883, when the english medical
- 31:27officer Raglan W. Barnes stated
- 31:29his concern about the number of
- 31:33bladder stones they were finding in the
- 31:36indian immigrant population. And
- 31:39he said that this was linked to the fact
- 31:42of them and their voiding position. Now, I
- 31:45want to know. His hypothesis was
- 31:48definitely racist in nature, because he goes on
- 31:51to say that, like, because they pee in the
- 31:54position they pee in, they're savages. All this
- 31:56stuff. Now it's just another
- 31:59old guy. Uh, he's a
- 32:02product of his time. Okay, I'm not saying it was
- 32:05okay, but that was the belief at the time.
- 32:08We've moved on. And since, since
- 32:11his original hypothesis, it's only been
- 32:14researched a handful of times, and one of the most
- 32:16recent was in a study in
- 32:192014. And this study
- 32:23sought to determine if there were any
- 32:25health benefits or
- 32:28detriments for men standing to pee.
- 32:31Does it improve flow? Is there any
- 32:34data to suggest that men standing to be as
- 32:37harmful or helpful? And the
- 32:40one ongoing argument is that if you are
- 32:43standing up, you are going to
- 32:46be less able to relax and allow
- 32:49everything to just noose, rough out flow
- 32:52right on out of you.
- 32:55It's a hypothesis at minimum. And they
- 32:58did this study, and they found that there isn't
- 33:01really a benefit unless you
- 33:04just prefer to sit. And here's the rub.
- 33:07You're free, baby.
- 33:11They said that for people with pre existing
- 33:14medical conditions, uh,
- 33:16luts, it's like lower urinary
- 33:18tract somethings, it could
- 33:22help you to sit to pee, but other than that, it's
- 33:25not going to make that much of a difference. And here's
- 33:27the thing. You're free.
- 33:31Uh, we here, where I make this show, we are free.
- 33:34We are in America. You might as well enjoy it while it's still free.
- 33:37If you want to sit to pee, sit to pee and own that
- 33:40you're a man because you have the equipment, not based on what
- 33:43position you are when you use that equipment.
- 33:46So our takeaway is this week on privy. Sit
- 33:49to pee if you want, stand to pee if you
- 33:52want. Ladies, demand the technology
- 33:55developed to you, not just altering
- 33:58men's technology to fit you.
- 34:01This brings us to the end of another episode of
- 34:04privy. Thank you all so much for being here. I hope you enjoyed
- 34:07our brief look at men standing to pee in urinal
- 34:10technology development. As always, you
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- 34:56world. The free world was not always free. And not everyone has clean
- 34:59water yet. We need to work towards that. Thank you again
- 35:02for listening. We want to thank Kevin McLeod and Poddington Bear for
- 35:05the use of their music this week. Uh, this has
- 35:07been another episode of Privy. Thanks for listening. Keep
- 35:10pooping in the free world. Own your stank. As always,
- 35:14don't forget to flush.