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BONUS: Instant Reaction from Ohio State's 31-14 Win Over Iowa · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Hello everybody, welcome to the Buckeye Weekly Podcast.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Tony Gerderman, here as always with Tom or Tom.
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  Speaker 2: How's it going?
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  Speaker 3: Boy, that was a pretty impressive win for Ohio State.
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  Speaker 3: I know this is one of these games where you
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  Speaker 3: go back and you read Twitter from the first half
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  Speaker 3: and you're like, wow, they lost 55-24 again, twice in
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  Speaker 3: a row in Iowa City. What are the odds? But man,
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  Speaker 3: all the sky is falling with the defense in the
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  Speaker 3: first half. Man, they held the sky up very effectively
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  Speaker 3: in the second half and As it turns out, Jeremiah
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  Speaker 3: Smith continues to be pretty good at football.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was telling this to Jack. Like, I've
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  Speaker 2: been doing this, we've both been doing this a long time,
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  Speaker 2: but I've been doing this a long time, and I
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  Speaker 2: don't ever really like, I don't write a lot about
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  Speaker 2: the Stars because I, like, everybody does that, and I
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  Speaker 2: just kind of like to write about other stuff. But
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  Speaker 2: you have to continue to write and talk about Jeremiah
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  Speaker 2: Smith because he is B-star, but he's unlike any other
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  Speaker 2: star Ohio State has ever had. There's always something to
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  Speaker 2: talk about, and the 200 and, however, 205, 206 yards,
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  Speaker 2: on 11 catches tonight. The first Ohio State receiver to
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  Speaker 2: ever have back-to-back 200-yard games. And he just continues to
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  Speaker 2: be amazing. And he is now, although Tom, I did
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  Speaker 2: tweet this out earlier. So basically, this was an average
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  Speaker 2: performance for Jeremiah Smith because he's averaging about six yards
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  Speaker 2: a reception and 105 yards receiving per half that he's played.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, great job. 11 catches, 206 yards, two touchdowns,
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  Speaker 2: which is also his average per halves played. Like, do
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  Speaker 2: something a little bit more than just average.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you said that this is the first time in
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  Speaker 3: history that anyone has had back-to-back 200-yard receiving days. And
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  Speaker 3: it was, you know, like, yeah, he did. And you
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  Speaker 3: watched it and you were like, yeah, that was pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: But it was just kind of like, it was a
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  Speaker 3: good Jeremiah Smith game. It was not a.
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  Speaker 3: I tweeted something out in the second half that was...
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  Speaker 3: I think it was the pictures of him going up
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  Speaker 3: in the triple team and then coming down and turning
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  Speaker 3: a terrible decision by Julian Sane into 70 yards. And
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  Speaker 3: I tweeted out, who do you think is the second
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  Speaker 3: best player in the country this year? Because it's like,
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  Speaker 3: conversation over. We're done here. Dear Heisman people, start engraving
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  Speaker 3: the trophy. That way you don't need to rush it.
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  Speaker 3: It's just... And it's the Heisman, so people are going
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  Speaker 3: to be stupid and have, oh.
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  Speaker 2: We need to do something contrary.
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  Speaker 3: You can't go to... Don't be dumb. Give it to
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  Speaker 3: Jeremiah Smith. The Litnikov people, don't be morons. This is
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  Speaker 3: easy this year. But you look at what he did
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  Speaker 3: in that game, and it just feels like, oh, yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 3: it was another Jeremiah Smith game. But in the context
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  Speaker 3: of Ohio State football, it feels like we're like A
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  Speaker 3: month away, if he does this against Indiana, if he
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  Speaker 3: does this against USC, if he does this against Oregon,
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  Speaker 3: we're going to be having the who do you think
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  Speaker 3: is the second greatest player in Ohio State football history conversation.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't think we even need to get to
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  Speaker 3: the end of the season for that.
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  Speaker 2: No, I think right now for me, and this is
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  Speaker 2: a topic we can discuss forever, he's top two. And
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I know he's going to be number one.
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  Speaker 2: do I want to see him play, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know his junior season first. Oh yeah. I think
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  Speaker 2: let's have two more years. Technically let's go ahead and
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  Speaker 2: see if he can finish out his junior season, the
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  Speaker 2: way he has begun it or the way he's finished
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  Speaker 2: out any of his seasons. And it's, it's fun watching
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  Speaker 2: him every time we go on the road and you
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  Speaker 2: hear like the, the road, not just the road crowd,
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  Speaker 2: but the road media press box, get to watch Jeremiah
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  Speaker 2: Smith do something. And you hear other people react. You're like, yeah, that's, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that happens. You'll see that. And then they catch in
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  Speaker 2: a triple coverage. And then the run after that. And
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  Speaker 2: I thought, I feel like last week's touchdown of spinning
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  Speaker 2: the safety around convinced him he could do that again.
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  Speaker 2: Because I think if he just kept it outside, if
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  Speaker 2: he just kept going, he might have scored again. And unfortunately,
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  Speaker 2: he did not score on that drive. So I don't
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  Speaker 2: know why we're talking about that play. But, yes, incredible.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I will tell you, I'm down here
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  Speaker 3: with the photographers. And these are people who are on
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  Speaker 3: the field for every game. You get an up-close view
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  Speaker 3: of all sorts of players. high level of the sport
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  Speaker 3: and people are just like, people are just doing the
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  Speaker 3: SMH my head. Just, just like I had three different
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  Speaker 3: people say some version of the phrase, it's not fair,
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  Speaker 3: including a national person. I'm not going to doubt them
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  Speaker 3: because they weren't saying it on the record to me,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm sitting next to a national person on the
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  Speaker 3: goal line. And they're like, man, that is just not fair.
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  Speaker 3: And it's just, it's remarkable. How, how, he continues to
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  Speaker 3: amaze you, but also it's, it's turning into the routine.
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  Speaker 3: Like the incredible is becoming routine, which is even more
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  Speaker 3: incredible than incredible. It's average. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The Jeremiah Smith average is better than anybody else has
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  Speaker 2: ever been in college football.
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  Speaker 3: It's the, it's the wide receiver version of the Ezekiel
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  Speaker 3: Elliott post-season run in 2014.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and that that's probably the last time that I
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  Speaker 2: could think of that. Somebody went 200 yards back-to-back games,
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  Speaker 2: rushing or receiving. So shoot. There have been some, there've
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  Speaker 2: been decades where I understand didn't go back to back
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  Speaker 2: 200 yard passing days.
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  Speaker 3: There was, I saw someone and I, now I forget
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  Speaker 3: who it was, but someone pulled up the season stats
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  Speaker 3: for the leading receiver. There's, and there's Jeremiah catching the
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  Speaker 3: ball in the middle of a triple team defense. That was,
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  Speaker 3: the funniest moment of post the post game was when
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  Speaker 3: someone asked Julian saying about the play where he threw
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  Speaker 3: it into triple coverage and he sort of smiled and goes,
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  Speaker 3: which one? And then everyone, you know, everyone laughed because
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  Speaker 3: it's funny because he didn't get picked off.
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  Speaker 2: That's a self-aware quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: Yes. Yeah. That's a quarterback who probably heard about it
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  Speaker 3: on the sideline a little.
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  Speaker 2: Bit, but he, I forgot where I was going with that,
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  Speaker 2: but Julian Jeremiah Smith is an average receiver.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. Mid, mid at best. Yeah. It's just, it's
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  Speaker 3: really amazing. And, I don't know that the Jeremiah Smith
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  Speaker 3: of it all is what I look at and think.
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  Speaker 3: Coming away from this game, the Jeremiah Smith thing is
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  Speaker 3: that's what's going to get the highlights and the headlines
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  Speaker 3: and all that kind of stuff. To me, the thing
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  Speaker 3: that I looked at and thought, this is really encouraging
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  Speaker 3: for Ohio State's big picture for this season was the
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  Speaker 3: ground game.
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  Speaker 2: They just churned. In the long run, 16 yards by
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  Speaker 2: Bo Jackson, Jacoby Jackson had a 12-yarder. But they stayed
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  Speaker 2: on schedule. Jacoby Jackson lost no yards. I think Bo
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  Speaker 2: Jackson had maybe like a two-yard loss or one-yard loss.
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  Speaker 2: But those guys churned. And Jacoby Jackson got the start,
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  Speaker 2: was running hard, stalking the jack. I'm like, I wonder
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  Speaker 2: what he could do with 25 carries. And then I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if he can– if his knees would
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  Speaker 2: hold up 25 carries running the way that he does.
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  Speaker 2: But together, 30 carries, 142 yards, a touchdown, averaging probably
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  Speaker 2: nearly five yards a carry between the two of them.
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  Speaker 2: But Jacoby Jackson, he does a very good job of
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  Speaker 2: just picking his way through between the hatches, between the tackles,
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  Speaker 2: and he's got good vision. And it goes back to
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  Speaker 2: something we were told before the season, before the spring even,
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  Speaker 2: about how Jacoby Jackson may be the most natural of
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  Speaker 2: the runners on the team, has the most natural feel.
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  Speaker 2: And you see that out there. And he gets upfield quickly.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes Bo will keep stretching it and looking. And Jacoby's like, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: we'll just go and we'll get what's there and maybe
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  Speaker 2: a little bit more. I'm going to run hard. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: break a tackle, maybe not, but I'm going to fall forward.
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  Speaker 2: And now we've got second and fourth. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and I go back to a conversation we had
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  Speaker 3: on the pregame show where we were screaming right down
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  Speaker 3: there over ACDC's Back in Black, where we talked about
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  Speaker 3: what's the median run for Ohio State? Like, I know
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  Speaker 3: your average run, you're going to average four and a half,
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  Speaker 3: five yards. What's your median run? You know, you line up,
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  Speaker 3: you stack up all the runs, top to bottom, the
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  Speaker 3: middle one, for those of you who don't remember, like,
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  Speaker 3: middle school math. Mean is just you add them all
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  Speaker 3: up and divide by the number. Median is you stack
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  Speaker 3: them all up, and what's the middle one? Because sometimes
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  Speaker 3: you can have a big number. You average five yards
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  Speaker 3: a carry, but you had an 80-yarder, and that really
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  Speaker 3: skews the fact that you had a bunch of twos
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  Speaker 3: and threes before that. I'm just going to read Jacoby
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  Speaker 3: Jackson's run. Four, eight, seven, zero, 12, six, three, five, six, nine, three, seven,
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  Speaker 3: and then on that last drive, two and zero. But
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  Speaker 3: the median is like 5, 6. I mean, that's really good.
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  Speaker 3: Let's run down Bo Jackson's runs from the game. 1,
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  Speaker 3: negative 1, not off to a great start. 12, 5, 16, 10, 4, 5,
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  Speaker 3: negative 1, 3, 2, 5, 4, 2, 3, 0. And again,
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  Speaker 3: the 2, 3, 0 at the end, that's when they're
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  Speaker 3: running it out. Again, you're like in the 5 or
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  Speaker 3: 6 range, and that's your median run. They were... moving.
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  Speaker 3: If the Ohio State band was here, they would do
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  Speaker 3: that song that they play where it sounds like a
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  Speaker 3: train rolling down the tracks that they'll play when they're
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  Speaker 3: churning down the field on offense. I feel like you
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  Speaker 3: would have heard that 15 times today if the Ohio
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  Speaker 3: State band had made the trip.
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  Speaker 2: That's another Ohio State furthest down. I was impressed with just...
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  Speaker 2: I told Jack during the game, I bet Ryan Day
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  Speaker 2: loves this running game right now. Not the fact– doesn't
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  Speaker 2: love that there's no explosives, but loves the fact that
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  Speaker 2: they're running hard and they're picking up yards. They're staying
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  Speaker 2: on schedule. The efficiency, all of that, the success rate,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure, is just fine. And it then allowed them
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  Speaker 2: to do better on third downs. And I think they
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  Speaker 2: did fairly well on third downs, throwing the ball when
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  Speaker 2: they needed to. We probably talked about the lack of
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  Speaker 2: the fact that Julian Sane was sacked four times.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: When Iowa had one sack through against two power four opponents.
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  Speaker 2: But they did bring some pressure and they tried to
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  Speaker 2: do some things. And Ohio State did not hold up
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  Speaker 2: well enough. And he tried to scramble as much as
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  Speaker 2: he could. He is running a little bit more today
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  Speaker 2: as well. a lot of penalties on that offensive line though.
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  Speaker 2: Some of them were, did not decline, but.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there were some, it was a lot of false starts,
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  Speaker 3: which it was loud in here. It got loud. I
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  Speaker 3: tweeted out a couple of videos on third down and they,
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  Speaker 3: it gets noisy in here because they are kind of
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  Speaker 3: on top of you. And there's a lot, it kind
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  Speaker 3: of goes straight up in places. Like this is a
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  Speaker 3: place that holds in the noise pretty well. It's what 70,000 people,
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  Speaker 3: something like that, but it holds in the noise pretty
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  Speaker 3: well here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you. Keep counting. We'll get there. You have to
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  Speaker 3: take your shoes off when you get to the next row.
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  Speaker 3: But the Julian Sands running was another thing that I
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  Speaker 3: think that's a real low key. It's completely going to
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  Speaker 3: get lost in the broader conversation because everyone's going to
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  Speaker 3: want to go Jeremiah Smith. We and like fair, fair play. Like, absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: Julian Sands runs other than the sacks. Second and 11
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  Speaker 3: scrambles up the middle for five turns second and 11
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  Speaker 3: into third and six instead of third and 11. That's
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  Speaker 3: a very, I believe, and they picked up, I believe
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  Speaker 3: they picked that one up. That might've been a first
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  Speaker 3: down drive. First and 10 scrambles for two, like second
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  Speaker 3: and eight is better than second and 10 rather than
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  Speaker 3: throwing it away. First and 10. This was on the
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  Speaker 3: drive right before halftime where they're kind of in a
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  Speaker 3: two minute drill. First and 10 at the Iowa 41
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  Speaker 3: scrambles up the middle for seven yards. All of a
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  Speaker 3: sudden it's second and three and you got the whole
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  Speaker 3: playbook open instead of second and 10. Third quarter, third
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  Speaker 3: and eight, scrambled to the middle for five yards. I
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  Speaker 3: think they might have– I think they punted that one away. But, again,
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  Speaker 3: like had a chance to extend the drive. And then
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  Speaker 3: third and one on the OSU 45 with about seven
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  Speaker 3: minutes left, rushes to the right for a gain of
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  Speaker 3: nine yards, picks up a first down.
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  Speaker 2: Naked bootleg.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, on that third and one. It's–
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  Speaker 3: that's what they need out of him. That's it. Like
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  Speaker 3: last week he had seven rushes and I think six
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  Speaker 3: of them picked up first downs or were touchdowns. And
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  Speaker 3: he wasn't quite that effective this time, but if you
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  Speaker 3: can turn second and 11 into third and six, that's
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  Speaker 3: when that's, that's fine.
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  Speaker 2: Especially with as afraid of Jeremiah Smith, as the defenders
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  Speaker 2: are six yards on a third and six is often
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  Speaker 2: just stealing. Yeah. And now you're seeing Julian look around
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  Speaker 2: more for other guys, even though you will still look
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  Speaker 2: for Jeremiah triple coverage and, Somehow things happen, but yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I thought he did a good job of spreading the
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  Speaker 2: ball around. Although you look and what another 15 targets
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  Speaker 2: for Jeremiah Smith, they're just going to feed him.
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  Speaker 3: And, and of the ones he didn't catch, how many were,
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  Speaker 3: did you watch and go, yeah, they could have called
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  Speaker 3: defensive pass interference. I mean, there were, there were a
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  Speaker 3: couple down in the end zone down there where they
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  Speaker 3: weren't both pass interference, but it was like, you looked
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  Speaker 3: at it and you were like, there were some, there
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  Speaker 3: were some contact there before the ball got there and
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  Speaker 3: you're not going to call everything and you're not looking.
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  Speaker 2: They're calling it on Devin Sanchez.
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah. Devin Sanchez, Devin Sanchez is this year's Davis.
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  Speaker 3: And where I think he's, they're looking, they're looking for
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  Speaker 3: him at this point and he's getting more than his,
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  Speaker 3: more than his share. But yeah, it's a, he, he
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  Speaker 3: is just so consistent and it's just, it feels like
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  Speaker 3: Arthur Smith is, former NFL head coach and longtime NFL
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  Speaker 3: offensive coordinator and brilliant football mind and Ryan day, brilliant
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  Speaker 3: football mind. And like your grandma sitting at the couch
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  Speaker 3: at home, it's like the handshake meme where it's like,
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  Speaker 3: just throw the ball to Jeremiah Smith. Like it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone sees it. Everyone knows that's going to be the plan.
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  Speaker 3: And it's like, I mean, what are you going to do?
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  Speaker 3: Stop it. Good luck.
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  Speaker 2: Well, there was a third and 18 and Julian saying
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  Speaker 2: is getting pressured. So he couldn't step in and throw.
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  Speaker 2: And it was just short of Jeremiah. They went on
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  Speaker 2: the first down. Jeremiah beat his guy. And he just
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  Speaker 2: couldn't get down low enough to get his hands under it.
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  Speaker 2: But if he picks up 20 yards on third and 18,
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  Speaker 2: you're like, what? Why do you do? But it's like, well,
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  Speaker 2: you don't have just one guy on him. And then
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  Speaker 2: when they are designing that long touchdown play in the
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  Speaker 2: third quarter, how did they know it was going to work? Well,
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  Speaker 2: they knew that they were going to have a safety
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  Speaker 2: over on top of them. And it's like talking to,
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  Speaker 2: I think, Jack during the game. don't ever run a
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  Speaker 2: defense where you're handing off Jeremiah, handing him to a,
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  Speaker 2: to a safety and be like, whatever your coverage you're
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  Speaker 2: running and he's moved himself in.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You got to get out of it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: No, brother, we need to do something. Ooh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: that sort of thing. Yeah. Because if you're just going
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  Speaker 2: to hand him off to a safety, it's like, well,
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  Speaker 2: now he's got an escort into the end zone.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. We have, okay. So we're going to get to
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  Speaker 3: Jeremiah's updated records a little later on. And I know
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  Speaker 3: we have a bunch of super chats that we need
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  Speaker 3: to get to. Do you want to do the Super
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  Speaker 3: Chats now?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do the Super Chats.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, let's start running through the Super Chats because I
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: know we've got some of those stacked up. And if
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: you want to kind of get your question to the
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  Speaker 3: front of the line, throw those Super Chats in there.
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  Speaker 3: Let's see. Can we pull those up?
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  Speaker 2: We can.
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  Speaker 3: I can.
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  Speaker 2: You can, you.
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: Here, I will pull it up right now. From Mike Ferguson,
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: he wants to know, why is there no trophy for
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: this game? A giant cement ear of corn to add
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: to the city's existing crops should do nothing. They have
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: that big field of cement corn up in Dublin. There's
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: one in Dublin. Ohio State, Iowa, it's kind of an
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: interesting series where it's not a rivalry because they haven't
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: played enough, but they've played some really memorable games over
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  Speaker 3: the years.
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  Speaker 2: And they used to play every year. I was thinking
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: the same thing. I was going to throw it out
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  Speaker 2: on Twitter. What should the rivalry be called? Because if
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: you have a rivalry trophy with Illinois....
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: You got to have the Eyes Eyes trophy.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: But it's like, there's got to be something. And it's
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: got to be something like, there has to be some
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: sort of a pig involved.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: Iowa already has.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: A pig trophy. I don't know. I don't know. The
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: Ohio something or other.
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: Ohio is not bad. I think you can work there.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: You got the Buc-ee's truck stop on one side. You've
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: got the Iowa 80 truck stop on the other.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. There's one Bucky's in Ohio.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah. There's only one Iowa 80 truck stop.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: So it's fair.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: Score tied.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: Get more truck stops.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: Uh, from, uh, Tiki off micron. I know we won,
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: but I hate this offense. Trying to keep guys fresh
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: to the playoffs means absolutely nothing. If we get there
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: and can't score quickly. Cause we haven't done it all year.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't, is it, is that I read
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: that as a lack of tempo. I mean, it's, it's
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: not like they're not playing. They're good players. It's, It's,
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: I guess, a lack of tempo.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: They had 74 plays.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: Right. I mean, they played. They had, yeah, 74. I
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: count 67 plays. Oh, no, you're right. You're right. Yeah,
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: 74 plays. And Iowa had 32 passes and 21 runs.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: So 53. If you're over 70 plays with the new
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: clock rules, that's a lot of plays. I mean, when
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: Ohio State was in the 50s in plays, absolutely. Totally
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: agree they've got to play with more tempo. They were
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: playing with a good bit of tempo, and then you
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: go to the fourth quarter, and then they are killing
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: the clock in the fourth quarter, which is exactly what
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: they needed to do. That's exactly what they needed to do.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: But you go through the quarters, they had 11 plays
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: in the first quarter, and a lot of that had
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: to do with the short field after that Kenyatta-Jackson forced fumble.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: 24 plays in the second quarter. 18 plays in the
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: third quarter, 21 plays in the fourth quarter. That's a
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: lot of plays. I mean, that's, that's a lot of
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: plays from scrimmage. Yeah.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: I don't, I don't necessarily understand this complaint because I think, well,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: I did call it station to station baseball at one point.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: And it's like, that's kind of what the running game is.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: Well, I was, I was playing their outfielders back in
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: no doubles right now. So you're going to play station
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: to station.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: But I also was talking with somebody and they're like,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: this team just is not entertaining to watch when Jeremiah
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: is not involved.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: And it's like, well, good news. Jeremiah's involved a good bit.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: So I don't like the circus when there are no
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: clowns and elephants. So you don't like trapeze.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But with this, the inability to score quickly, they've
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: scored a touchdown in the final at the end of
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: the second quarter and every game this year, they've shown
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: that ability to score quickly because they got the ball
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: back with like one 45 or something. They went right
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: down and scored with like 13 seconds left. Yeah. They've
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: done that every single game this season. So they've shown
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: that ability. I think maybe they've not shown the ability
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: to close things out in terms of scoring at the
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: end of games, but also that's not necessarily what they're
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: trying to do. Like the way they're running between the
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: tackles at the end of the game.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: The game is over.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah. And watching the management of this game, I thought,
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: you know, I constantly have issues. Like, I don't love
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: Ryan Day's timeout management at times. And I don't love how,
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: you know, I thought at Texas, they needed to run
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: the ball way more. They strangled the life out of
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: this game. This was, this was, they got up, they went, well,
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: you're not going to be able to, you know, Iowa
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: went down and scored a touchdown. It was like, congratulations.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: Now you're down three scores. And there's nine minutes left
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: in the game and Kirk Ferentz at that point didn't
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: even bother onside kicking that was weird to me but
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: Ohio State just spent the whole second half just sort
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: of strangling the life out of the games it was
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: which is what you need to do you get your
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: lead and then Okay. And it was, it was very
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: obvious what they were going to do. Cause if Jeremiah
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: Smith was on the field, maybe they were going to
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: throw the ball. And then Jeremiah Smith went off to
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: the side. You knew they were going to run the ball.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: Everyone in the stadium knew they were going to run
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: the ball and they could still run the ball. And that's,
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: that's one of those benchmarks that offensive line coaches talk
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: about all the time. When everyone in the stadium, Justin
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: Fry used to say that all the time, when everyone
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: in the stadium knows you're going to run the ball,
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: you got to be able to run the ball. Number four,
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: standing on the sidelines is, Everyone in the stadium knows
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: this is going to get handed to Jacoby or Bo
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: or whoever, Isaiah, whoever's back there. And they were still
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: able to run the ball.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and trying to keep guys fresh for the playoffs
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: means absolutely nothing if we get there and can't score
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: quickly because we haven't done it all year. But also,
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: hasn't there been a clamoring for rotating guys? Get more
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: guys involved in the passing game, get more receivers out there.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying that... that that's a complaint here, but
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: we know we've been asking, we have been talking about
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: a larger receiver rotation for a while. The fact that
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: you don't always have more than just one and a
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: half running backs. I think they've got more than that now.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Maybe if legend Bay can ever get his act together
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: and get out there. But I still think what was
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: the average scoring drive of, you know, if we look
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: in terms.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Of it was, yeah,
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: 16 plays, 55 yards, where they were just, again, strangling
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: the life out of the game.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Nine minutes and 30 seconds.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Right, yeah. Their last two drives were 26 plays for
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: 125 yards and 14 minutes and 35 seconds. That was
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: a quarter of football, basically. And the only reason it
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: didn't reach 15 minutes and a second touchdown is because
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: they took a knee and the game ended.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and a five-play touchdown drive of 75 yards a
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: nine play 84 yard touchdown drive that took one 36.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Like to me, though, that's, that's indicative of being able
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: to score quickly. Now they still don't to field goal and,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: you know, they weren't perfect and Iowa's defense is okay,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean, you're going to want to get
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: better and, you know, they'll see a better defense next
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: week against Maryland. Tom said, no, that's not true.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: Well, Maryland, Maryland lost to Nebraska in the end. Right.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: But it was a little closer than you thought.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Here's the other thing. Like, I feel like people in
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: the chat and on Twitter and everything are reasonably happy
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: with everything, but I would encourage you to look at
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Mississippi state, Mississippi state, man, Mississippi state, everyone's feeling great
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: about life. And then they get firebombed by Alabama, Florida, man.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: Oh man. Everyone's feeling great about life and they got
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: firebombed today. And you know, Michigan, Michigan is– boy, if
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: not for the cheating Big Ten refs, Tony, Michigan would
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: be undefeated. And then they go up to Minnesota, who
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: got killed by that Mississippi State team, and lose. There's
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Penn State. Penn State on Friday night gets killed by Northwestern.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: There's just a lot of inconsistency in college football. So
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: if you can go on the road in the Big
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Ten– Against a good opponent, this is not an incredible opponent,
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: but this is like a top... This is a team
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: that's going to be somewhere between 20 and 30, probably,
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: in the final polls. You go on the road, you
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: just kind of control the game. There's no drama in
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: the second half, really, at all. You have to kind
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: of look at that and go, this is as consistent...
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: If you could be consistent and consistently good in college
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: football this year... That's better than almost anyone else can say.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and after the game, you can hear we're in
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: the post-game media room. The locker room is, I don't know,
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: 20 feet away.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right across the hall.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Very loud and boisterous team banging on the lockers. Ryan
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Day is telling them all week long that you win
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: on the road and it's something that can bolster you.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: They sure seem to believe that. Tommy, I will remind you,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: we were promised a four-quarter game and it didn't happen.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Well, so.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: He said win the fourth quarter. That was the message
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: at the team hotel last night was win the fourth quarter.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: They lost to 8-7.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: And they had 21 plays for 106 yards. Iowa had,
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: I think, eight plays in the fourth quarter. So 21
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: plays to eight plays. At a time when you don't
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: need the points, you're just trying to kind of– That's
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: winning the fourth. I mean, they won the third quarter.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: They won the first quarter. They won a lot of
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: this game.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: This was an Iowa blowout. This is a Big Ten blowout.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: This is a Jim Trestle blowout.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: This is the first time anyone has scored 30 points
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: in this building on Iowa in 10 years. October 1st, 2016,
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: Northwestern did it. No one has done this in 10 years.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: And I predicted it. Profiles encourage. You want to hear
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: a funny story?
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: No.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Chuck, you Chuck may have told it while he was on,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: but his pregame score prediction was 31-12.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: Oh, man. And it was 31-12. It was briefly.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: And then they went for two.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Did not get it, but there was a 12th man
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: on the field. And then poor Chuck. And I told him, like,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: I predicted 31-17. And so, like, I feel like I
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: am closer. than his 31-13. I think we would all agree.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: 31-12. Can you imagine? We had that handsome set of
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: luggage and the home edition of our game ready for
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: him to give it to him as a prize and then, man,
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: that's too bad. Excellence or nothing. That is our motto.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: APC says, we riot if Jeremiah Smith doesn't win the Heisman.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: Who else are you going to give it to at
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: this point?
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Well, and the thing is, it's like, well, if he
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: can keep this up, I don't expect him to keep
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: this up. No.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: But But if he can just get 100 yards a
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: game and a touchdown, at that point, because he's where now?
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: He's got, what, nine touchdowns this season?
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Nine touchdowns.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: So if he just has a touchdown a game for
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: the rest of the season, one, which would be a
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: tremendous slump for him. If he has one touchdown a
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: game for the rest of the season, the next seven games,
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: he's one shy of Terry Glenn's school record. and then
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: he's got probably a game or two or four after
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: that to break it. He is doing stuff, and you
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: know he could get, you know, he can. The thing
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: that I think maybe makes me think that he might
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: really put up some crazy numbers this year is Ryan
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: Day knows. Like, Ryan Day is keenly aware of the
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: fact that Jeremiah Smith needs to keep, just keep the
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: numbers down. Keep the numbers spinning there. They're going to
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: throw to him. They are going to find him. They
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: are going to lean on him. They are not going
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: to play him for two quarters against Maryland. They are
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: going to, you know, Ryan Day probably. Ryan Day never
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: minds putting a couple extra points on Maryland. I would
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: expect that he might look to Jeremiah Smith to do
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: that next week.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure if we have his season totals available,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: but it is 44 catches, 823 yards, nine touchdowns through
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: five games. And again, I will remind you, he did
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: not play in the second half against Ball State. He
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: did not play in the second half against Kent State.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: So you're talking 823 yards in 16 quarters. Four games
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: of action.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: Well, I think I said this earlier. I at least
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: thought it. Go back and find the 2011 season leading
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: wide receiver totals. I think Devin Smith had 16 catches.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: Three guys with 14.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Three guys with 14 catches for 237.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: Yards and a couple touchdowns. That was the season in 2011.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: Season leaders. And he's doing that, like, in a game. Like,
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: multiple weeks in a row, he's done that against not
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: bad defenses. This is not against Ball State.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: No, and I think that was Devin Smith, Jake Stoneburner,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: and maybe Philly Brown?
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Could be. The game that I remember from that game
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: was they– that season was they had– they went to Illinois,
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: completed one pass for 17 yards. It went to Jake
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: Stoneburner for a touchdown, and they won.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: And they won.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: What a time to be alive.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's Jeremiah Smith doing some work there. The one
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: on the left is the shot of him in that
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: triple coverage. And the one on the right is him
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: reaching the ball out at the goal line for the
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: touchdown right before halftime.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: What I like about the one where he's reaching out,
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: his towel is in the background. It looks a little
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: bit like a cape.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. Mike Ferguson Super Chat says, Iowa and Purdue
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: get one genie wish to beat a top-tier team every
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: five years. Being that Iowa played a basketball team last week,
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: we were right to take this game seriously.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and... Ohio State watched Iowa beat Michigan. Ryan Day
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: was here in 2017. There was no way Ohio State
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: was gonna come in here thinking anything other than we're
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: gonna have to fight and they were prepared for a
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: fight they were prepared for all four quarters and they
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: made it so that that tom actually left no doubt
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: through those first three quarters and then just stayed burning
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: the clock yeah or the fourth quarter as they start
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: to Turn out the lights. You will see how many
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: we lose.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: Are we going to get Rutgers-ed?
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: No. We'll go as far and as long as we
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: have to.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're planning to go for at least another half
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: hour or so. Mike Farino, Super Chat, says, Game went
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: largely as I expected. Predicted 35-13 was real close. Loved
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: the Sane to Smith touchdown. We're saying how to navigate
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: the pocket. Sane has done a really good job kind
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: of getting around, like being a little more mobile, buying
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: some time. all the lights are off on that side
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: of the stadium. I don't love that. That's not great.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: It might get a little dark here. We might be
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: standing here in the dark.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: They just decided to give all of the lighting to us.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe. Maybe that's what they're doing. We'll see. I've
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: got my phone and we'll figure it out. We've been
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: in weirder situations than this. I feel like I know
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: everyone wants to tell you every time Julian Sane doesn't
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: see an open receiver, but he's taken another step this year.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: This is, this is a better quarterback this year in
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: a lot of key ways than he was last year.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. And he's, you're right. He's like navigating
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: through the pocket and he's running around a little bit
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: and taking that next step. And the right day talks
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: about the X factor with his legs. You're seeing that more. I,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: it would be interesting to see what he is like
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: without Jeremiah Smith. Now it would be interesting to see
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: what Superman is like without a yellow sun. You've got
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: that guy and you can always go to him. But,
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, he was on the sideline for several downs,
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: and they would manage. But, like, what would his– how
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: would he spread it out? I mean, when Cardinal Tatum
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: was around, he spread it out just fine.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: He would spread it out. But, like, when Arthur Smith
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: gets here and he's like, we're going to get this
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: guy the ball, Jeremiah Smith before the season, like, when
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: I asked him, What's different about an Arthur Smith offense
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: for a receiver for you? We're going to get me
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: the ball.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he wasn't kidding.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: No, we're going to get me the ball. Now, did
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: we think 11, 12 receptions a game? That's not something
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: that ever happens here consistently.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Jackson Smith did 95 catches over 13 games in 2021,
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: which is what? Seven, eight catches a game. This, like
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: I said, if he continues this, 11 or 12 catches
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: a game, which, again, I don't expect. But if he did,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: he would eventually become the all-time Big Ten receptions leader,
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: passing a four-year Purdue player.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: Right, yeah, Taylor Stubblefield, right? Or Standiford?
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Standiford or Stubblefield.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, one of the Joe Taylor wide receivers in the
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: early 2000s. TK wants to know, how many punches could
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: say and take from Rocky in Rocky III before getting
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: knocked out? Man, this feels like the most Tony Gerderman
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: question of all time.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Rocky, well.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: Sorry to say that about you, TK. I didn't mean it.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: I'd say after he loses to Clever Lang, where Rocky's
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: beaten up, or after he loses Mickey and there's just
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: no fight in him, I think he could take a
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: punch from Rocky after he loses Mickey because Rocky doesn't
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: want to fight. And he's lost Mickey and really just
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: a baby.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: Enunciating as well as always.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Exactly. And so I think Julian could take a punch
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: from sad Rocky.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: Is he wearing a helmet? If he's wearing a helmet,
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: I definitely like his chances.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Maybe. Now, what about taking a punch from over the top?
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: Oh man. He doesn't know. He doesn't punch. Does he?
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: No, I mean, but he, he's, listen, he's a trucker.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: He can punch anyway.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Super chat from Dave K.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: If number four is handcuffed in a straight jacket in
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: a Buc-ee's surrounded by 200 people, he's still open. Now.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, we've been in a Buc-ee's. I got to
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: say the average person in a Buc-ee's does not feel
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: like this is, this is like fighting, uh, a hundred
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: duck sized horses, like any individual, one of those people,
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: not going to make a big difference in terms of
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: the likelihood that he's open. You add them all up. Like, yeah.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: You're going to trip on something, but yeah, I still,
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: I still like his, I still like his, I don't
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: think anyone's going to be able to high point the ball.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: 200 random people from the Buc-ee's belt. I think Jeremiah
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: is going to be able to high point the ball
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: better than any of them.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: You know how you're at Buc-ee's and they start yelling
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: because the brisket is done or it's ready or whatever?
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: At some point they yell, all right, we need 200.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: We just had Herky the Hawkeye go by on a gator.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: It is officially a loud vehicle right behind us. Hawkeye Weekly.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: What service do we have to do with that? Oh, man. Anyway, yeah.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: Jason Fruit says, how long can they keep Bay on
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: the bench before we have to worry about the portal?
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: And if he goes, is that a short sale? Here's
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: the thing. He's in, he's not playing right now for
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: reasons that don't have to do with his on-field abilities.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: You have to have sort of the big picture. You
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: can't have, if there are rules, you have to enforce
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: the rules or suddenly there are no rules. And then
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: if there are no rules... That's when stuff goes pear shaped.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: Like Ohio State is pretty like the rules are the rules.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: The standard is the standard. You can say the standard
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: is the standard. And if you don't enforce it, then
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: then the standard stops being the standard. So if you
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: know and this is not like, you know, he's rubbing
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: liquor stores. I'm not it's not anything. It's not legal stuff.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: It's just like the day to day stuff. Handle the
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: day to day stuff and you'll play. but you gotta
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: handle the day-to-day stuff. That's it. You can't let that
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: stuff slide or then you're asking a question a year
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: or two from now, why are they not as together
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: as they used to be? Why don't they have this
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: stuff together?
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: It's like, well, that's why. And you have parents that
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: also get involved, like, why is my son not playing
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: if that person's playing? But you also have the best
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: player in America, Jeremiah Smith, setting the example on, you know,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: when to be where, how hard to work when you
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: get there, how hard to work afterwards, doing all this
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: stuff on your own. He doesn't need to do any
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: of that. But that's how he's built, and that's the
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: example that he's trying to provide for everybody else, and
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: that's also just how he is. And if you're on
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: the team with him, and that doesn't necessarily motivate you
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: to want to be like that, again, you've got to mature. Players,
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: freshmen have to mature. Not everybody... Jeremiah Smith came in
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: as a professional. Nobody is generally like that.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison came in like that, but that's the exception.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: That's not the norm. There are a lot of guys
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: who come in and it's like, well, Travion Henderson. Travion
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: Henderson is a freshman. Even when he played, he was
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: not the person that he was when he graduated Ohio State.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: You grow a lot in college. You learn a lot.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: You mature a lot in college. That's a normal part
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: of being a going from being 17 or 18 to
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: 21 or 22. Like, that's how it's supposed to work.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: And if they can't– Ryan Day always talks about building trust.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: If you're not building trust doing stuff off the field
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: in terms of out of games, practice, and things like that,
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: meetings or whatever, why would they ever trust you in
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: a game? And he played well against Ball State, and
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: that was fun, and everybody enjoyed it, and everybody wants
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: to see more. And I think that's the frustrating thing.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: And I had somebody on Twitter asking me like, well,
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: why don't the captain say something to him? Like, do
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: you think they, do you.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: Think people are, do you think you're the first person to.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Say, somebody needs to talk to that.
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: Right. Sometimes the first time you hear it, it doesn't,
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: doesn't solve the problem. Like everyone, sometimes it takes a
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: little while and it's just people, you know, some people
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: are growing up with doctors and lawyers for parents and
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: growing up in, you know, with, uh, You know, Clarence's
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: parents have a real good marriage. And sometimes you're growing
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: up in different situations. And some people are more prepared
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: for the real world than others. That happens.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: And Marvin Harrison still had only had five catches through
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: the regular season as a true freshman.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But he was doing the work. And so then
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: when the opportunity arose, they went, yeah, fine. Good.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Go.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: Score three touchdowns in the Rose Bowl. And he did.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: If you have to.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: If you must. Fort Wayne Buckeyes says, best game of
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: the season for the defensive line, especially Edrick and Quay.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Quay Russo, one and a half tackles for loss,
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: was one of the four people that we talked to
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: after the game, as you guys saw if you're watching
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: the stream. His best performance as a Buckeye, when Chuck
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: and I were talking before the game, you know, will
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: we finally see something from Edrick? And he was making some,
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: almost making some plays, but then also had one where
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: he was in the backfield and made a play, and
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: it's like, okay, well, Maybe you're getting some, and, you know,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Jason Moore continued to have some more plays at the
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. So, yeah, now, can you have a
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Jackson set after the game that the defense is fixed?
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: You can't tell that based on an Iowa offense, so
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: let's keep that clear. They may have been more gap sound, but, again,
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: Iowa has not run the ball against anybody that isn't
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: northern Iowa or northern Illinois. So until you see them
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: do something, like, it won't even matter, but Ohio State
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: stopping Indiana. Or being prepared for Indiana has no bearing
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: on their ability to stop Iowa's offense in their running game.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but that being said, they did to Iowa's offense
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: what you would have hoped that they did to Iowa's offense,
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: given what Iowa's offense has been. Iowa, their leading rusher,
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: 11 rushes, 27 yards, long of eight, two and a
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: half yards per carry. Iowa's on average 21 carries, 39 yards, 1.9
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: yards per carry. Like that's when a team is not
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: running the ball well, that's what you want to do
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: to them.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And they did a good job running some man
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: beaters and ran some good routes and rock route combos
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: that kind of picked some defenders before the balls in here.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: So it was kind of, you know, fair play, good design,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: but those stopped in the second half.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. Robert Howard says, good evening, gentlemen, important question.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: What's the best part about Michigan being own two in
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: the conference? It feels like, man, this feels like a
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: question for urban Meyer. And I don't think it's a round.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Boy, that I completely, as I'm watching this expected Michigan
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: to eventually win come through, but, I've got people texting
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: me like this was Bryce Underwood's worst performance to date.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Two interceptions should have been more not still not running
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: the ball. I believe. Yeah.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah. They, Michigan ran the ball for 2.8 yards per
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: carry 28 rushes, 79 yards, Bryce Underwood, 10 for 21,
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: 101 yards, no touchdowns, two picks. I mean, and, and
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: that's a Minnesota team that got torn limb from limb
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: by Mississippi state. And, You should admit you have a
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: quarterback who is supposed to be sort of along the
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: lines of Mississippi State's quarterback. Nope.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: No.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: But everything with Bryce Underwood. Last week, they lost and
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: we kind of went, well, you saw some really encouraging
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: stuff out of Bryce Underwood. And it's just everything with
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: Bryce Underwood is like one step forward, two steps back.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: We were listening to a Michigan podcast on the drive here.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: Where they were talking about the positives of the loss, too.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: I was that, well, at least the offensive price underwear,
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: that that's the best game he's had so far.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: And it was, it was like almost verbatim, the stuff
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: that we said, like they saw it the same way
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: we saw it other than the massive anti-Michigan big 10
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: officiating conspiracy, which I don't know how that happened. Tony
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: Petitti was here today on the field. I saw him
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: down on the field earlier. So I don't know if
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: he was coordinating that remotely from here up to Minnesota.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's close. They're right.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: Well, look, a vast conspiracy does not rely on just
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: one person. You've got a team.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: That's very true.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: You've got a team that handles these things.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: Tony Petitti's henchmen lurking in the shadows.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: For sure, for sure. Yeah, but so then now what
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: is that podcast saying when the one thing that you
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: could latch onto is at least Bryce Underwood is playing
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: well now and the passing game looks good. And then
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: you come to this and it's like, well, now you
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: have no idea what to expect anytime you're out there
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: other than you probably can't run the ball and who
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: knows if you're going to be able to throw it.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: Well, and Michigan lost 20-14. one of the touchdowns was
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: a 79 yard interception return. So that was, that was
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: not only was, and that was kind of right before halftime.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: So that was not only did Michigan score seven points
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: on offense, Minnesota was driving almost into the red zone
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: on one of the other drives, Minnesota. I mean, they're
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: Michigan's drives. I know people love reading drive charts. I'm
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: guessing our audience won't mind this one. Michigan's drives today,
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: five plays, 23 yards punt, nine plays, 36 yards punt.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: five plays, 34 yards touchdown. So they, they started with an,
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: that was an interception and they, they scored their three plays,
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: negative two yards punt, three plays, negative three yards punt,
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: two plays, five yards interception, one play, zero yards interception,
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: nine plays, 33 yards punt, four plays, two yards punt,
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: eight plays, 37 yards downs. Their longest, they had a
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: five minute, 36 second drive in the fourth quarter. They
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: had a five minute, 40 second drive in the first quarter.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: But then other than that, after the– basically the last
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: three quarters of the game, all but one of their
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: drives were two minutes and two seconds or less. And
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: they had one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: Seven of their eight drives were two minutes and two
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: seconds or less. And Michigan is not a real tempo team.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: So that is– man, that is– Longest drive, 38 yards.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: That is– yeah, 37 yards at the end of the game, yes. Yeah,
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: your only touchdown drive was five plays, 34 yards.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: That's bad, man.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Is Minnesota, do they have one of the best defenses
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: in the nation? I don't think so.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: Well, I can refer you once again to the Mississippi
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: State-Minnesota score.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Even Washington scored, what, like 24 on them or so?
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: And the current credits of Minnesota for getting that win,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: and they have some momentum right now, but that was bad.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: That was bad, yes. Super chat from Mike Ferguson says,
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: not snowing during the postgame, unlike some shows in the past, man.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: It was gorgeous here today. It was. This is the
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: second week in a row that I've gone. This is
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: the perfect football weather. It was like 70 degrees, sunny.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: And we've talked about this, I think, in other shows.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: But man, this is a great trip. Iowa City is
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: a very nice town. It's a very nice campus. This
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: is a great stadium. The people are great. We talk
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: all the time about Lincoln and how much we love
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: going to Nebraska and all the fans and how great
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: it is and the traditions and all that kind of stuff.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: Iowa is great. Right in that conversation. It is a
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: top-tier Big Ten trip.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: There were a lot of Ohio State fans here today.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: They were sprinkled all throughout. They had an entire section up.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Up there.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: In the upper deck there. But, yeah, and I saw
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: a whole lot of people I knew from one of
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: the security guys from the field. Someone I had gotten
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: a picture of at Notre Dame a couple years ago
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: stopped him. One of our friends from the board who
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: always has the best tickets saw him and his daughter today. No, no.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: Let's not say something we can't take back. But yes,
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: not snowing here today. Very, very, very, very nice day.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: And this is, like, if you have not been to Iowa,
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: I know you sort of hear Iowa City, Iowa, and
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: you're like, eh. Great, like, Had a nice meal last night.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: Great town. Very, very nice location. Really a fun, really,
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: really fun trip. And the hospital wave, very, very cool tradition.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: All right, so we are through our Super Chats now.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: So now we've got to get, we've got a couple
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: more things we've got to get knocked out before we
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: wrap things up. Let's hit the Jeremiah Smith career numbers
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: real quick because that feels like something we've got to
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: hit right now. Top of the charts for touchdowns. top
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: of the charts for receptions, top of the charts for
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: career receiving yards. And then we're going to have to
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: get the big 10 records up there next week. Cause I,
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: I be coming over here. I think we were talking
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: in the car and I felt, well, you know, he
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: might break the, the career touchdown records. I think I
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: was going to do their very best and not let
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: him get the ball. It was like, well, you know,
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: Bart handing them the cake that says you tried like that. Like,
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: all right.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: And while you've got the numbers up there, I can
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: give you the big 10 career. Okay.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Go ahead. Taylor Stubblefield has 325 receptions. That's one where
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Jeremiah average like 11.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah. He needs another, he needs another 118 receptions. Receiving yards,
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: John Stanford, 3788. So that's going to fall. That's yeah.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: 407 yards away.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: Braylon Edwards, 39 touchdowns. That's four away that he might
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: get that next week.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, he might get that next week. He might
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: get the yardage in. He's going to probably do the
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: yardage this month.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: He can go over 1,000 yards next week if they
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: want to.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: Not in the game, for the season. Yeah, okay, I
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: was going to say. I mean, they probably could. It's
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: only 250 yards a quarter. Mike Farino says, should Day
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: just abandon field goals this season? I have absolutely zero
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: faith that Hawken will hit one under any pressure.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: That was only 40 yards. It was a red zone miss.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: Was it? Okay. Here's the thing. Like, and I know
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: you're not saying that this was the only pressure kick.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: Like this was not any more of a pressure kick
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: than the ones in Texas that he hit. Like he
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: hit three in Texas before he missed the one. And
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: then you look at the one and you know, everyone
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: wants to nail themselves to the cross because they're the
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: first college football fans to ever have a kick or
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: miss a kick. And it's like, you know, You feel
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: like you're the kicker. Your kicker is the only one
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: who ever misses kicks. Virginia Tech missed a kick at
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: the gum last night.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: Did they?
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, probably. But you go through Iowa's kicker. You know,
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: everyone wants Ohio State's, everyone's Iowa special teams. Iowa's kicker
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: missed a field goal last year. And, you know, Hawkins
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: hit the upright. It wasn't like it was a real
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: terrible shank. Everyone was all put out because it was
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: a terrible miss in Texas. This wasn't a terrible miss.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: He hit the upright. If it's that much further.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: I think the problem is that you would love to
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: be able to trust him and know that this is
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: going to happen.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: And now you can go. But now you know.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: So don't play for that. And, you know, that's– This
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: is a good thing. Yeah, right. Put him in situations
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: where he's going to, you know, get the confidence up
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: a little bit. Don't play for a field goal. Yeah.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: you've got plenty of ways to score touchdowns. Don't play
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: for your free goal. That's it.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: And that was a 40-yard doink.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and the punting was, again, not outstanding.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, and also the punt returning, letting the ball bounce.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: It was a short punt, and it kind of died.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: You got a heck of a bounce, and you pinned
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: it at the three. Not a great day overall for
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: the special teams, although the one thing that everybody wanted
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: to make sure happened was no kickoff returns allowed. Like,
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: kick everything into the back of the end zone. And
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Marcello Diametti did that.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Let's hit the wide receiver targets because I want
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: to talk. Believe it or not, Ohio State does have
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: other wide receivers on this year's team.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: Name six.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: All right, fine. Jeremiah Smith, Devin McEwen, Brandon Ennis, Isaiah West,
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: Nate Roberts, Max LeBlanc. Not all of them are wide receivers.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: Devin McEwen had a very nice day. Four targets, four catches,
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: 80 yards, had that touchdown. right off the bat, had
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: another– that 34-yarder was a really nice play. Like, that's
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: what they need out of him.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: And they were trying to get more. They were dialing
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: some stuff up, some deep shots up that they just
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: couldn't protect for.
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: And so then, you know, Julian would have to throw
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: it away or he'd get sacked. But they were definitely
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: dialing some stuff up for him just– To reassert that
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: it's not just Jeremiah. I think you're going to continue
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: to see that with Devin. And if there's single coverage,
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: he can beat it. If there's protection.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: Yep. Brandon Innes, two catches, 14 yards. But he had,
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: I think one of them was a big third down
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: catch for a first down, which he's not going to
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: put up enormous stats. He's made some really big plays
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: for them. He is going to be one of those
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: really underappreciated people who he blocks. He makes really important catches.
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: I know Brock Boyd and Chris Henry Jr. not on
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: that graphic. They played a bunch of snaps today. They
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: played a ton of snaps because those are guys who
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: they trust to block. Those are guys who they trust
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: to do the little stuff. And for two true freshmen
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: to be in that spot, I know they're not on
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: the stat sheet there. That's really, really good for their
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: long-term careers at Ohio State.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: And I don't think Brock maybe played as much as
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: he did in the last game, but he's a normal
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: piece of the rotation. It's no like, oh gosh, look,
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: Brock Boyd's out there. Defensively, Jordan Thomas was out there
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: at nickel. I think Cam Calhoun was the nickel initially,
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: and then Jordan Thomas was out there and got some time.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: And this is while the game is still very much alive.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: So you're seeing Simeon Caldwell, the big nickel, big linebacker,
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: he was out there. So they're getting Some different freshmen
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: in there.
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: When you, yeah. When people are saying they're not playing
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: the freshmen, they're scared to play the freshmen. No, they're
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: playing the freshmen who they trust to play. And that's,
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: you know, that that's in a very important distinction. Yeah.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: You're not just randomly selecting. Right.
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: Which freshmen to play.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Super 10 for Mike Frano. So Hawkins is three
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: for four, three for five on field goals and P
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: four games. I sure do trust him to kick. You
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: have the kicker that you have. You just have to
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: plan around it now. And if you, you know, The
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: distinction of P4 games is, you know, if he hit
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: the upright against Kent State, that one would have counted.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, he missed four field goals last year, just
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: like Jaden Fielding.
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Mike says OSU would probably have a better fourth
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: down conversion percentage. I mean, it depends. Is it fourth
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: and 12? Is it fourth and one? If it's fourth
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: and one, that probably changes your calculus.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: Is it a wildcat?
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: And if it... let's talk about that for a minute
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: because you know and i know it didn't work the
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: first time which means they were getting too cute and
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: then it did work the second time which meant it
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: was a creative solution so you know i i you
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: would love to see them just line julian saying up
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: under center and run it just run the quarterback sneak
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: and if you don't think that's going to happen like
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: if i was pinched in they were throw a little
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: pop pass or something like that like i if you
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: do that, that's fine, but that's very obvious. Like what
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: you're doing there. I just, you're taking a shot, a
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: shotgun snap there. And obviously you're not going to throw,
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: you take away the threat of the past. So I
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: don't love that from that perspective, if they want to
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: do it like fine, I I'm, I'm willing to sort
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: of see the experiment out, but I don't, I don't
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: love taking the ball out of Julian Sands hands when,
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: have Julian saying out there taking the snap, have Jeremiah
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: Smith out there, like that gives the opponent a whole
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: lot more stuff to worry about than Bo Jackson taking
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: the direction.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: And the thing is, if Bo Jackson picks that up,
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: it's still coming back because you had two guys in motion,
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: Jeremiah Smith or Julian saying we're set. Julian was never
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: going to be set because he was going to stay
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: in motion. So that was a botch from the get go.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: It tells me that they're not competent. Julian saying running
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: the sneak when it is expected.
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Let's hit some defensive stats real quick while we're,
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: while we're going through some, some kind of cleanup here.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: We have those. There we go. Peyton Pierce, six tackles,
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: Quay Russo, five, I mean, clearly Quay Russo's best game by,
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: by a long shot, very big to get Zion Grady back.
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: It felt like.
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: And he had those four tackles pretty early on. I
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: don't recall many of them, but again, it gives them
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: another option. And it also kind of, kicks the other
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: defensive ends into gear like do you want to continue to.
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: Play right well you now everyone kind of takes one
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: step back in the line and quay russo you got
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: it you got a better performance out of him we'll
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: see you know maryland you would assume they should be
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: they should win the line of scrimmage against maryland let's
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: see what it looks like in bloomington we're two weeks
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: away from a trip to bloomington indiana and that's that's
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: the next time that you're going to have a you
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: know that's the next like let's check in and see
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: how it's going.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: Should we just start watching Indiana games now and doing
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: rewatches of Indiana?
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: Well, if that means I don't have to watch more Maryland,
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: then yes, that's exactly what we should do.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: What if the success of Quay Rousseau is because he's
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: fresher because of Zion Grady's contributions and Quay Rousseau out
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: there a ton against Illinois. And he, you know, he's
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: even talked about after the game working on his win.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: And that was maybe what, the second game back. And
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: it's like, here, you've got to play 54 snaps against Illinois. And,
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: try to handle it and try to hold up. And
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: that's not what I'm here for, bro.
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: He's here to rush the passer and he did a
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: better job of that today.
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: All right. We got, I know we got a couple
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: of photos that we wanted to get up here. So
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: let's let's run those up there and then we can
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: start to wrap it up. So this is Jeremiah Smith.
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: This is the touchdown, the second touchdown, the one where he, no, sorry,
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: the third touchdown.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: No, he only had two today.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: He only had two. So this was the, Second touchdown
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: where he breaks the record, uh, breaks the, yeah. And
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: then catches it. Got a defender right there. And you know,
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: as much as, as much as they talk about, Oh,
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: the running backs, aren't running through tackles, breaking Jeremiah, boom,
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: just runs right through it. Uh, he did the Heisman
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: pose five feet for me. I had too long of
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: a lens, so I could not get Jeremiah Smith doing
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: the Heisman pose directly in front of me. It was like,
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: hang on. No, hold that. Don't move. I got to
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: get my phone out. I'll get it. It won't be
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: as high quality, but it's going to be.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: No, I do like this photo, though, because there's a
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: statement there.
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: Uh huh. Yeah, for sure. I don't know. Do we
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: have the ones from right before halftime? Those right. That
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: was my favorite. That was diving into the diving into
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: the end zone, which. You know, last week, I think
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: he scored four touchdowns, and they were all on the
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: opposite side of the field. Both of them happened today
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: directly in front of me. Dave K says, Tom made
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: a joke on Twitter, and I haven't stopped grinning since.
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: That was about right before halftime, the fact that the
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: Buckeyes had scored in the final 15 seconds of the
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: first half, and that it was the best sports performance
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: in 15 seconds since Rick Pitino in the Italian restaurant. Yeah,
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: there we go. There's Jeremiah Smith getting into the end
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: zone right there. And also, I will say the sun
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: angle here, Jeff Kiss. Yeah, I will take the low
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: sun in the sky. Low Iowa sun. Get that low
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: Iowa sun midway through the season. Yeah, that was good.
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: Rick wants to know if I got any photos of
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: Juck running to pay dirt. I don't know. I hope
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: nobody had cameras out when I got into the post
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: game room and realized my laptop was still in the
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: photo work room, which is on completely the other end
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: of the field. So I did a 120 yard sprint
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: from the, like ran down the tunnel past the OSU
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: locker room, which I'm sure players and coaches were like, well,
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: I can outrun him and ran down the length of
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: the field and grabbed my laptop and ran all the
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: way back was huffing and puffing in the post game
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: interview room. But yes, got there, got there in time.
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: So it all worked out. So I think, that must be, uh, Devin,
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: Devin Paul says, uh, great job, Tom. Well, Tom, great photos.
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: Great job tonight, guys. Thank you. Thank you very much.
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: This is Devin McEwen, uh, scoring the touchdown right at
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: the beginning of the game.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: It's like his first touchdown.
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And if we have the Kenyatta Jackson, I
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: got real lucky on the, there's, uh, oh yeah, there's
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: Kenyatta Jackson, uh, punching the ball. I got real lucky
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: on that one. Cause I was moved over to the side.
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: Cause they're like, maybe the sun will be better here.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: And then that happened right in front of me. So uh,
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: excellent preparation on my part last week. It was bad
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: luck this week. Excellent preparation. Everything happened right in front
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: of me. You're clear of you for the, for the
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: most part.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: Uh, our friend Jordan Kapler, uh, criticized me for not
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: having ref foot in my Jeremiah Smith photo. And then
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: there was the one that was down the sideline right
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: back here. Uh, I had a ref, but directly in
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: front of me, you know, the, for the play got
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: broken up. So it was fine, but I sent that
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: to him on Twitter and said, okay, there you go. Your,
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: your dream has come true. So, all right, there you go.
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: I think it is time to, uh, Yeah, we got
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: to start wrapping things up. Well, we got to do
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: a morning show and then we got to hit the road.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: That's true. So thank you all for tuning in. We
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: appreciate that. Thanks for sticking with us this entire time.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: Hope you guys got to see everything. All of the players,
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: the coaches right there as well. Chuck, Tom, of course, me,
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: but most of the time. Yeah, no, but we do.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: If any of this has interested you today or tonight
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: at any point or the day's game, Come find us
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: over at BuckeyeInsider.com. We're going to be talking about that.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: The game thread has been going since, oh, I don't know, Sunday.
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it has been lively.
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and plenty of other stuff to talk about. And again, hey,
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: it is now officially Maryland week.
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: Tony, what do I need to fear this week?
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: Fear the turtle and fear Mike Locksley's low low buyout
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: so that will do it from here thank you all
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: for tuning in and we will talk to you all later.
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: Love, this time, can what I feel be real? Well,
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: she threw away the motel key. I wish it never
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: meant nothing to me. Say you will, I'll say you will. Oh, yeah.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: If you tell me that Des Moines's alright, we could
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: steal a car and leave tonight.