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- 0:35Speaker 1: It's gonna be very exciting to share a conversation with
- 0:37Speaker 1: you because you and I walk such the same street
- 0:40Speaker 1: and it's like, it's like, Wow, we need to get
- 0:42Speaker 1: more of us together to bring forward a journey, a path,
- 0:46Speaker 1: something where people aren't just sitting there just going to
- 0:49Speaker 1: chat GPT to locate what they think is the right journey.
- 0:53Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know that AI is going to
- 0:56Speaker 2: help us on our journey. Boy, it might help us
- 0:58Speaker 2: with technology, but you know, we don't need more technology
- 1:03Speaker 2: and we need more awareness.
- 1:04Speaker 1: Isn't that truth? How did you find your awareness path?
- 1:07Speaker 1: And what was it that took place where all of
- 1:09Speaker 1: a sudden you started realizing, Oh wait a second, there's
- 1:12Speaker 1: something much bigger than me here.
- 1:15Speaker 2: Oh, that's been happening since I was a child. I
- 1:19Speaker 2: was raised in metaphysics and the sciences and so forth,
- 1:23Speaker 2: and study a lot. It's really been my life's journey
- 1:28Speaker 2: to bring this forth. My first book was about nuclear war,
- 1:33Speaker 2: and then this book is about peace. But it's a structure,
- 1:39Speaker 2: it's not just a philosophy, So there's a path here.
- 1:45Speaker 2: This is a self help book for the species.
- 1:50Speaker 1: Meaning one brick at a time, as my master in
- 1:52Speaker 1: martial arts would say, if you're going to take that
- 1:54Speaker 1: mountain down, you got to do one rock at a time.
- 1:57Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we better do several at a time.
- 2:00Speaker 2: What we're not going But.
- 2:03Speaker 1: Yeah, but you started this book long before where we
- 2:06Speaker 1: presently stand today. But then again, if you hear some speeches,
- 2:10Speaker 1: this has been going on for forty seven plus years
- 2:12Speaker 1: and even longer.
- 2:14Speaker 2: Well, but I'm just a messenger, and this message has
- 2:18Speaker 2: been given by a lot of people throughout history. Yeah, Christ, Buddha, Mahatma, Gandhi,
- 2:27Speaker 2: Albert Einstein, Carl Sagan Alsi'm in Abraham Lincoln, and I'm
- 2:32Speaker 2: not comparing myself to them. I'm comparing the message to theirs.
- 2:35Speaker 2: It's the same message. It's the same message now worded
- 2:40Speaker 2: in today's language, but it's the same message. And there's
- 2:44Speaker 2: thousands of messengers out there today of that caliber. But
- 2:49Speaker 2: there's eight point four billion. We're approaching a point four
- 2:51Speaker 2: billion people on the planet, and we got some crises
- 2:55Speaker 2: we're facing, and there's a lot of principles involve involved
- 3:02Speaker 2: here in an addictive cycle. Yeah.
- 3:05Speaker 1: So yeah, and you speak of that addictive cycle, is
- 3:09Speaker 1: that because we are living in a false world in
- 3:11Speaker 1: the way that we can just go on to social
- 3:13Speaker 1: media and pretend and all of a sudden we just
- 3:15Speaker 1: incorporated our lives.
- 3:18Speaker 2: Well, we're not yet aware of who we are.
- 3:20Speaker 1: Yeah, you that's so true.
- 3:23Speaker 2: And once we realize that, then these other problems will
- 3:27Speaker 2: get solved. So our goal of the book is just
- 3:31Speaker 2: part of the foundation of a timefrehumanity dot orgon. And
- 3:35Speaker 2: I don't know if you if the publicists sent you
- 3:38Speaker 2: the book, or if you had a chance to look
- 3:39Speaker 2: at it or anything, but you know, our goal and
- 3:44Speaker 2: the foundation is to unite humanity in order to save
- 3:48Speaker 2: us from ourselves, because basically, you know, we've got we've
- 3:55Speaker 2: been at in a worldwide state of war for ten
- 3:58Speaker 2: thousand years. Yes, and you know, we're collapsing the ecosystem.
- 4:04Speaker 2: It's not just global warming. We're poisoning the air and
- 4:07Speaker 2: water and planet about a thousand times the natural raid.
- 4:12Speaker 2: So we've got things like the militarization of the earth,
- 4:15Speaker 2: an impending worldwide water crisis, things like that. We're trying
- 4:20Speaker 2: to solve those while we're killing each other. It's like
- 4:26Speaker 2: trying to have a house party while the house is
- 4:29Speaker 2: on fire.
- 4:29Speaker 1: Oh Jesus, oh my god.
- 4:31Speaker 2: Then and of course denying the house is on fire
- 4:33Speaker 2: at the same time. So you know, we kind of
- 4:37Speaker 2: have this backwards.
- 4:40Speaker 1: And isn't that odd that we have We're playing that
- 4:43Speaker 1: game only because I mean, I'm reminded of what happened
- 4:45Speaker 1: to us here in Carolina yesterday with this passing storm,
- 4:48Speaker 1: where there are still people without electricity. I had a
- 4:51Speaker 1: tree that fell on my house. And you sit there
- 4:53Speaker 1: and you go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what happened here?
- 4:55Speaker 1: And you're going, wait a second, this is nature doing
- 4:58Speaker 1: what nature does. Don't humanize everything. And sometimes I think
- 5:02Speaker 1: that's our fault, is that our egos, our illusions, our
- 5:05Speaker 1: beliefs are getting in the way.
- 5:08Speaker 2: Oh, we do have some misunderstanding of our role in
- 5:13Speaker 2: our own problems. People love to blame other people for
- 5:17Speaker 2: their problems, but the reality is we even as individuals,
- 5:21Speaker 2: we tend to cause most of our own problems ourselves.
- 5:24Speaker 2: We just kind of like to blame other people because
- 5:25Speaker 2: it makes us feel better.
- 5:28Speaker 1: That's so true. But you know, one of the things
- 5:31Speaker 1: that you cover though, if there is fear and separation,
- 5:34Speaker 1: does that always lead to violence? Because I know how
- 5:37Speaker 1: people are reacting to higher prices right now. Because one
- 5:41Speaker 1: of my essential jobs only because I just want to
- 5:43Speaker 1: be with people. I just love studying people. So I
- 5:46Speaker 1: took up a job at a grocery store. You can't
- 5:48Speaker 1: get any more real than a grocery store. And so
- 5:51Speaker 1: that's why I think your book is so important to
- 5:53Speaker 1: my heart. It's helping me understand where people might be
- 5:57Speaker 1: and how we can plant one word and maybe change
- 6:01Speaker 1: their life in a positive way.
- 6:04Speaker 2: Well, I think that this book and the foundation and
- 6:09Speaker 2: the reason you would pursue a path like this is
- 6:13Speaker 2: because it will give humanity hope. And we face a
- 6:17Speaker 2: number of challenges, but I think one of them that
- 6:20Speaker 2: we don't yet realize is we're suffering from a lack
- 6:23Speaker 2: of joy. And when you eliminate that from life, boy,
- 6:28Speaker 2: then you know you're going down the wrong path. We
- 6:34Speaker 2: continue to cry, you know, in our soul for salvation,
- 6:38Speaker 2: and yet we don't even realize it's in our own hands.
- 6:41Speaker 2: It's waiting for us. We're waiting for it. It's waiting
- 6:45Speaker 2: for us. We have Humanity has to open its heart.
- 6:50Speaker 2: Logic won't solve the problem. We have to open our heart.
- 6:53Speaker 2: It's the only way we're going to survive.
- 6:56Speaker 1: Don't you think though, that we are living a life
- 6:58Speaker 1: of My mom used to say all the time, is
- 7:00Speaker 1: that we're trying to just keep up with the Joneses.
- 7:02Speaker 1: I think we have passed the Joneses and we're seeking
- 7:05Speaker 1: something even higher.
- 7:08Speaker 2: Well, I think we're kind of lost. We've lost our way,
- 7:12Speaker 2: and I think humanity and various cultures can sense that
- 7:17Speaker 2: we're spinning out of control, and there is a convergence
- 7:22Speaker 2: starting to happen. If we don't abort, that will be okay.
- 7:28Speaker 2: But there's still an element of free choice, and nobody's
- 7:32Speaker 2: going to stop us from destroying ourselves except us.
- 7:38Speaker 1: Well, you bring up something here inside the pages that really,
- 7:41Speaker 1: it's an eye opener. It's also a conversation starter. Reconnect
- 7:45Speaker 1: and compassion. We see the evidence of a reconnection taking place.
- 7:49Speaker 1: But what we rarely find on page one of any
- 7:52Speaker 1: social media or even newspaper the compassion. We're not hearing
- 7:56Speaker 1: about the compassion. We'll hear about the potential of reconnection,
- 8:00Speaker 1: but we're not seeing the compassion. And in your pages
- 8:02Speaker 1: you're saying we need them both.
- 8:05Speaker 2: Well, we do, and you know, compassion alone would probably
- 8:09Speaker 2: save humanity. But the best definition I've ever heard of
- 8:12Speaker 2: civilization is that it's the process of learning to be kind.
- 8:17Speaker 1: Hmm.
- 8:18Speaker 2: That's civilism. That's a definition of civilization. M hmm. Yeah.
- 8:23Speaker 1: But you know how people are kind here, I'm going
- 8:25Speaker 1: to give you a tip today, you know, that's that's
- 8:27Speaker 1: what It's one of the things when people win at
- 8:29Speaker 1: the lottery, they think that, you know, giving me an
- 8:31Speaker 1: extra five dollars bills is going to give them another
- 8:34Speaker 1: opportunity to win. I'm going down. No, no, you keep this.
- 8:36Speaker 1: You may need somebody on that, or you may meet
- 8:39Speaker 1: them out on the street one day that needs that
- 8:41Speaker 1: five dollars bill. Just give that to them, don't give
- 8:44Speaker 1: it to me. But because I always feel like that.
- 8:46Speaker 1: Don't buy your happiness with me? Is that wrong in
- 8:48Speaker 1: thinking like that?
- 8:51Speaker 2: Well, certainly there's my Giving something to someone is certainly
- 8:58Speaker 2: a form of kindness, and it might make you feel better,
- 9:01Speaker 2: and it might actually do some good. But we need
- 9:05Speaker 2: to change our consciousness. As Einstein knew, you can't solve
- 9:12Speaker 2: problems from the same level of consciousness that created them.
- 9:15Speaker 2: You have to raise your consciousness to solve those problems.
- 9:19Speaker 1: Please do not move. We'll be right back with Kenneth
- 9:22Speaker 1: Callison coming up next. The name of his book, The
- 9:26Speaker 1: Way to World Peace an idea whose time has come.
- 9:30Speaker 1: A door is open. Let's do the talk, right, Kenneth Kylison.
- 9:35Speaker 1: Kenneth Callison is back. You say that peace is in
- 9:38Speaker 1: alignment with humanity's deeper nature. I love the way you
- 9:42Speaker 1: present that because it gives us kind of a new
- 9:44Speaker 1: definition of what piece is. We just think that if
- 9:47Speaker 1: I think peace and I talk piece and I write
- 9:49Speaker 1: a piece, that piece will happen. No, it goes deeper
- 9:52Speaker 1: into our nature.
- 9:54Speaker 2: Well, peace needs to be run. War is run as
- 9:58Speaker 2: a business. Oh, yes, you're right, very much of a business,
- 10:02Speaker 2: very profitable business. But we need to run peace as
- 10:05Speaker 2: a business, the same effort at the same marketing, the
- 10:08Speaker 2: same budgets, the same focus. Peace needs to be run
- 10:12Speaker 2: as a business.
- 10:13Speaker 1: But aren't they doing that within the ranks of church,
- 10:16Speaker 1: because but then again, you know, it's I don't know,
- 10:19Speaker 1: I don't know how to react to that in the
- 10:21Speaker 1: way of that church is trying. But we can't get
- 10:23Speaker 1: businesses to try with churches unless there's something in it
- 10:25Speaker 1: for the business.
- 10:27Speaker 2: Well, in my opinion, and religion is supposed to heal
- 10:33Speaker 2: and encourage and give people hope. But unfortunately, over the centuries,
- 10:40Speaker 2: really organized religion has become the commercialization of spirituality. So
- 10:46Speaker 2: we've commercialized our spirituality through religion.
- 10:51Speaker 1: You talked about buying happiness. I mean, it's like I
- 10:54Speaker 1: gave my tithing today, I did well, I did good. Okay,
- 10:57Speaker 1: here we are, and all of a sudden it's not
- 10:59Speaker 1: going well.
- 11:00Speaker 2: Well. I think there needs to be a change in
- 11:09Speaker 2: our effort, our awareness, our logic, our approach, our belief
- 11:18Speaker 2: in ourselves. Humanity doesn't value itself, so when a species
- 11:26Speaker 2: doesn't have an understanding of its own value, then it
- 11:31Speaker 2: will act out of confusion.
- 11:35Speaker 1: I so love where you're going with this book, because
- 11:38Speaker 1: it is a conversation starter. And the thing is is
- 11:41Speaker 1: that you can go and try to get something like
- 11:43Speaker 1: this started with a neighbor or a coworker or a friend,
- 11:45Speaker 1: and nobody knows what's going on. But yet when you
- 11:47Speaker 1: dive into your book, it gives us that opportunity of,
- 11:50Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm not alone. This guy is speaking
- 11:53Speaker 1: something that I am feeling deep inside my thought process.
- 11:57Speaker 2: Well, I think it has touched and it's interesting. People
- 12:02Speaker 2: that are politically liberal think it's a liberal work, and
- 12:05Speaker 2: people that are conservative think it's a conservative work. So true,
- 12:09Speaker 2: it's just really interesting. I think I just struck a
- 12:11Speaker 2: nerve as all. But yeah, it's interesting.
- 12:14Speaker 1: Where do you take it from here now, Kenneth in
- 12:17Speaker 1: the way of growing it forward?
- 12:21Speaker 2: Well, it's it's really, in many ways a revolution wrapped
- 12:28Speaker 2: within a peace movement.
- 12:30Speaker 1: Oh, peace movement in the way of bringing people together,
- 12:35Speaker 1: because I mean, I just talked with the guy last
- 12:37Speaker 1: week that he's one of those people that hires others
- 12:40Speaker 1: to join him in protests, and it's like, ah, this
- 12:43Speaker 1: isn't what I learned back in the sixties and seventies
- 12:45Speaker 1: when it came to protests. But then again, he proved
- 12:48Speaker 1: me wrong saying yes, they did pay people to go
- 12:50Speaker 1: to these protests. I'm going, oh my god, so is it?
- 12:53Speaker 1: So what is that peaceful path that we take like
- 12:56Speaker 1: a Moses walking across the desert floor.
- 13:00Speaker 2: Well, we do have to at least become educated, Then
- 13:05Speaker 2: we have to become empowered. Then we have to take action.
- 13:08Speaker 2: So there are steps in this process. I don't know
- 13:12Speaker 2: if you read the chapter on the Venturi, but all
- 13:16Speaker 2: of what has happened before this is just noise. It's
- 13:20Speaker 2: really not. We do tend to get fixated on the past,
- 13:24Speaker 2: but that's not where the secrets are. It's where we're going.
- 13:29Speaker 2: And we do tend to get locked into patterns of
- 13:33Speaker 2: revenge and retribution. And it's not those who forget the
- 13:37Speaker 2: past that are condemned to repeat it. It's those who
- 13:39Speaker 2: can't forget the past that are condemned to repeat it.
- 13:43Speaker 1: So how does that make you feel that you're putting
- 13:47Speaker 1: words out here that are going to change people's lives?
- 13:50Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, you really have planted something here
- 13:52Speaker 1: that is a step in a direction that people want
- 13:56Speaker 1: to talk about and haven't been because we've shut ourselves
- 13:59Speaker 1: up in this little world where we think that we've
- 14:01Speaker 1: got self comfort.
- 14:04Speaker 2: Well, it's interviews like this. I just got a great
- 14:10Speaker 2: review from Literary Titan, who was spot on on their analysis.
- 14:15Speaker 2: It's not that it was positive, it's they understood. So
- 14:19Speaker 2: this kind of feedback does help keep the ball moving forward.
- 14:27Speaker 2: So that's a good thing. It is.
- 14:29Speaker 1: It is Wow. Where can people go to find out
- 14:32Speaker 1: more about you, Kenneth, because I want them to really
- 14:34Speaker 1: jump on your path and give you a lot of
- 14:37Speaker 1: attention and a lot of love.
- 14:39Speaker 2: Well, any the books sold anywhere, Amazon, the Barnes, Noble,
- 14:43Speaker 2: and so forth. Of course on the internet. But I'll
- 14:48Speaker 2: be speaking as this rolls out. You know, get to
- 14:52Speaker 2: the website, which is a time for Humanity dot org,
- 14:56Speaker 2: and at least subscribe to the newsletter and then you'll
- 14:59Speaker 2: at least keep up and that'll show you as we
- 15:02Speaker 2: progress how to get more involved.
- 15:04Speaker 1: You got to come back to this show in the
- 15:05Speaker 1: future because this can't be a one time only conversation,
- 15:08Speaker 1: because I do see your personal growth and I want
- 15:10Speaker 1: to help measure it in the way of just keep
- 15:13Speaker 1: pushing this word forward.
- 15:16Speaker 2: Well, you know, it'll reach a certain inertia, reach a
- 15:19Speaker 2: tipping point, and then that's where it'll get excited.
- 15:22Speaker 1: AH like your attitude.
- 15:24Speaker 2: I love it man.
- 15:25Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today?
- 15:26Speaker 2: Okay, mister Kenneth Well, get a