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Ep. 32: All Eyes Ahead: Review the Week 6 Colts Victory and Short Week | Jags A.M. Podcast · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome into jags A. I'm here on victory Monday. The
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Speaker 1: shows are always better on victory Monday. I've decided I'll
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Speaker 1: speak for everybody.
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Speaker 2: John.
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Speaker 1: It's a good feeling. It's a good feeling early in
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Speaker 1: the year. I know you were just talking about it.
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Speaker 1: It's a little bit peculiar at this time you are
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Speaker 1: to be so positive.
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Speaker 2: Maybe, well it's it's Uh. Brian and I were talking
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Speaker 2: about it, and I I'll confess I didn't do the research,
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Speaker 2: and I have to speak bad intelligently. But they're four
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Speaker 2: and two at three game winning Street, and that means
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Speaker 2: you're in first place. Uh, it's been decades to get
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Speaker 2: into first place. But since you had a game like
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Speaker 2: that and you said, Okay, we're gonna take early control
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Speaker 2: and feel like we're the team defeat. Uh, Brian, that's
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Speaker 2: been since the ninety.
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Speaker 3: First of all, did you just me a compliment and
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Speaker 3: say you you know you're not that intelligent to have
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Speaker 3: done the research. It wasn't a matter of and it's rare.
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Speaker 2: You didn't mean to.
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Speaker 3: I get it. It wasn't a matter you did. It
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Speaker 3: wasn't a matter of intellect. It was a matter of attention.
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Speaker 3: I was paying attention. Yesterday, CBS through a stat up
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Speaker 3: on the broadcast that it had been eighty something weeks,
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Speaker 3: eighty two, eighty three weeks. I forget which one, but
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Speaker 3: a long time since the Jaguars had been multiple games
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Speaker 3: over five hundred. You got to go back to when
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Speaker 3: they were three and one in twenty eighteen, and it
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Speaker 3: just tells you how long this team has been sort
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Speaker 3: of bumping and grinding it out. Three straight wins, you know,
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Speaker 3: and two of those, obviously, you know, came in London.
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Speaker 3: This was a difficult week. You know, I don't care
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Speaker 3: what anyone says. You had to work to get your
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Speaker 3: body back, and we all felt it, and we didn't
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Speaker 3: play right. Even play in London. You get on the planet,
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Speaker 3: get back, and your energy level isn't the same at
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Speaker 3: the end of the day. So, I mean, I thought
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Speaker 3: that was a really important win yesterday. I will say this,
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Speaker 3: There's a part of me that didn't feel all that
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Speaker 3: good last night, you know, leaving here, you know, with
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Speaker 3: the uncertainty about the quarterback and the injury, didn't feel
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Speaker 3: like a normal victory, you know, evening because you're you know,
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Speaker 3: there's a little cloud here. Okay, Okay, or is he not.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna get more information on that this week. We'll
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Speaker 1: hear from Doug later on today and then Trevor will
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Speaker 1: speak tomorrow, so we'll get some clarity on how serious
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Speaker 1: ode injury is. And it's a short week, so when
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Speaker 1: you're dealing with injuries, that's always tough. We're going to
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Speaker 1: talk about that first. We'll start off with our big thing,
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Speaker 1: and big thing number one is a statement win, because
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Speaker 1: that's exactly what that was. They came back under tough
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Speaker 1: circumstances playing in London for those two weeks, kind of
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Speaker 1: resetting themselves in a big divisional matchup against the Colts.
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Speaker 1: Now they're in first place after that win. And we
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Speaker 1: heard a little bit about this wind streak.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think that this is where we
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Speaker 4: want to be. You know, we're getting better every week.
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Speaker 4: I think that's the that's the most exciting thing is
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Speaker 4: we're getting better every week. We're getting closer. I feel
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Speaker 4: like the momentum and the energy is really rolling for us,
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Speaker 4: and we got to keep that going every week.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 4: Now, especially it's a short week on the road, so
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Speaker 4: it's the same same mindset. We got to make sure
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Speaker 4: we dial in on all the details, get our bodies
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Speaker 4: back for this for this game coming up on Thursday.
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Speaker 4: I mean it's three four days away, so we got
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Speaker 4: to get ready for that one.
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Speaker 1: So it's great that we're on a win streak, as
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Speaker 1: he mentioned, but you know, quick turnarounds, So by the
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Speaker 1: time we get to Thursday, it's like you can't even
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Speaker 1: enjoy it that much because we're already thinking about the Saints.
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Speaker 3: You know, give them a lot of credit. It was
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Speaker 3: not statistically a day that you go, well, well they dominated.
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Speaker 3: Look at thirty seven points or four hundred yards. They're
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Speaker 3: coming on four hundred and seventy four yards against a
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Speaker 3: very good Buffalo team when they put up yesterday two
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Speaker 3: thirty eight something, just under two hundred and fifty yards.
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Speaker 3: But they were opportunistic. They took advantage of that, and John,
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Speaker 3: I have a lot of hope for this football team
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Speaker 3: based on the fact that one side of the ball
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Speaker 3: is playing consistent. I think the defensive side and the
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Speaker 3: offensive side still has a wayte to go to find
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Speaker 3: that consistency.
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Speaker 2: Well, it I get that the opposite didn't put up
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Speaker 2: with ten yards, but as a team, you scored thirty
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Speaker 2: seven points and the offense did what it hadn't done
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Speaker 2: in some games, which was to put the ball on
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Speaker 2: the end zone they have when they had the opportunity.
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Speaker 2: So I'm not I guess I didn't come out of
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Speaker 2: that game. O. The even's been horrible, but I get
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Speaker 2: your point.
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Speaker 3: Well, they just were very good on third down, right,
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Speaker 3: they fell way back and were inefficient on third down again,
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Speaker 3: and that was what I thought. Well last week, you know,
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Speaker 3: ten of eighteen, they had made a major breakthrough. They
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Speaker 3: had found that when they were consistent on third down,
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Speaker 3: they're really good on all.
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Speaker 2: I thought that they found an identity of sorts in
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Speaker 2: London that I never thought they had last year, which
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Speaker 2: was a toughness on defense and a grit and determination,
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Speaker 2: if you will, on offense. And I thought they took
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Speaker 2: control of the game early by playing that way. So
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Speaker 2: I still think they're that team. But the NFL is hard,
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Speaker 2: and they won by seventeen points. They swept the Colts,
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Speaker 2: outscoring that team for the season by twenty seven, and
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Speaker 2: you're in first place. And yet there were people angry
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Speaker 2: last night in the inbox. It's a nice change of
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Speaker 2: pace made way.
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Speaker 3: I heard a stat on a podcast this morning. You
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Speaker 3: realized that through six weeks in the NFL, the red
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Speaker 3: zone touchdown percentage is as low as it's been in
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Speaker 3: the last twelve years. I mean, it's just there are
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Speaker 3: a lot of offenses that are struggling to find their way.
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Speaker 3: Defenses had the upper hand through six weeks.
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Speaker 2: I think what's happening there is offense has gotten so
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Speaker 2: good and I think and go out of defensees have
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Speaker 2: accepted we're not going to be shut down defenses anymore,
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Speaker 2: but we're going to be great in the red zone
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Speaker 2: and keep them out. That's the way the lead has
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Speaker 2: been going a little bit. You know, by the end
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Speaker 2: of the season that could not see where but uh,
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Speaker 2: by the way my mic was off, I guess for
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Speaker 2: the first segment takes.
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Speaker 1: We need more job if you want to, they just
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Speaker 1: rewind it. Okay, let's got our second big thing. I'm
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Speaker 1: sure John will weigh in on that. I'll take that
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Speaker 1: because turnovers have been the name of the game for
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars defense this season and we love to see
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Speaker 1: that from them. Of course, Doug super happy with the
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Speaker 1: defense so far through the first six weeks.
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Speaker 5: Defense sometimes doesn't get enough credit for that. You know,
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Speaker 5: the takeaways are something that we as a team talk about.
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Speaker 5: They talk about it as a as a defense, and
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Speaker 5: it just it just shortens the field for your offense.
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Speaker 5: Right and and pass rush again today there was pressure
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Speaker 5: on Gardener, you know, putting in places maybe he didn't
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Speaker 5: want it to go. And again, just a great team
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Speaker 5: effort on defense to uh uh play the way they
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Speaker 5: did today.
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Speaker 1: John, it feels like it's a different person every week,
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Speaker 1: but then some of the same faces. Obviously Darise Williams
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Speaker 1: with third straight pick and third straight game. Cisco again,
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Speaker 1: Josh with the stripsack. It's everybody's It's an effort on
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Speaker 1: every aspect of the defense.
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Speaker 2: I remember a couple of weeks ago when we were
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Speaker 2: sort of trying to figure out is this is this
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Speaker 2: defense really good or not? And I think it made
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Speaker 2: the point all eleven guys, there's no weak spot. Uh,
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Speaker 2: there's no spot where you say, boy, you know, teams
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Speaker 2: can pick on this. Their teams can pick on that.
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Speaker 2: They brought back all the lab Uh. They brought back
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Speaker 2: the same defensive coordinator. They talked a little bit, and
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Speaker 2: nobody paid attention to how much continuity was going to
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Speaker 2: help them. They're a complete defense. They're really good against
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Speaker 2: the run. They're really stout. I think Doug Brian, I
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Speaker 2: think he's a little bit frustrated or wants to keep
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Speaker 2: pushing and get the offense better. But I think when
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Speaker 2: he looked at this team's chances overall, I think he's
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Speaker 2: smiling inside saying, all of a sudden, we're pretty tough.
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Speaker 2: All of a sudden, we're a pretty good defense. I mean,
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Speaker 2: and press are gonna get the offense figured out. You know,
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Speaker 2: I think it's probably his feeling when he's driving into
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Speaker 2: the morning, saying, you know, we're all right here. We've
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Speaker 2: got to stay afloat, and then if we get the
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Speaker 2: offense figured out, we can go on a run and
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Speaker 2: get in with these with the big guy, so to speak.
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Speaker 3: Well, people didn't hear you compliment me earlier, but but
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Speaker 3: I'm going to compliment you here. You called it a
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Speaker 3: few weeks ago, you said, this Jaguars defense takes the
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Speaker 3: ball away. It's what they do. This morning. They lead
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Speaker 3: the NFL through six weeks with fifteen takeaways and at
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Speaker 3: plus seven right they're number one in the AFC, number
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Speaker 3: two in the NFL in overall takeaway giveaway margin, and
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Speaker 3: they were everywhere yesterday. You know there were three interceptions
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Speaker 3: that were recorded. Devin Lloyd had another one that he
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Speaker 3: couldn't quite pull in with the cast on his hand,
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Speaker 3: and Foyer Lucon made a dive and grab it one
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Speaker 3: couldn't quite pull it in. Both of those would have
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Speaker 3: been tough catches, but you could have taken away.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it could have.
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Speaker 3: Been so much better for the Jaguars, worse for Gardner
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Speaker 3: Minshew in the Colts. This Jaguars defense is playing at
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Speaker 3: a really high level. Now, I mentioned earlier, you know
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Speaker 3: a little worried about the quarterback and want to find
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Speaker 3: that out. A little worried about Tyson Campbell and the
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Speaker 3: hamstring injury because when Monterrek Brown was in the game
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Speaker 3: in the second half, Michael Pittman had a field day.
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Speaker 3: They just went after him. I would think he might
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Speaker 3: be better if he has to practice this week, getting
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Speaker 3: more reps, even though there's very limited reps. But that's
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Speaker 3: a worrisome spot too, is Tyson Campbell is a star
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Speaker 3: on your defense. There's good a players you've got. You
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Speaker 3: need him on the field for you.
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Speaker 1: That could be a point of concern. Obviously, hamstring injuries
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Speaker 1: for that position. When they're running around a lot that
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Speaker 1: can linger and it's not a ton of depth there.
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Speaker 1: Braswell's on ir now, So what they're gonna do exactly,
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Speaker 1: we'll have to see. And ouch is our final big
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Speaker 1: thing of the week. There were several injuries in the game,
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Speaker 1: none bigger than Trevor Lawrence. We don't know the severity
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Speaker 1: of that just yet, but he did talk postgame about
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Speaker 1: how he was feeling.
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Speaker 2: He had just felt.
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Speaker 4: Something, you know, just some discomfort in my knee when
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Speaker 4: I went down. I don't know if it was twisted
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Speaker 4: or landed on or what, so I kind of felt
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Speaker 4: it right away and then kind of put a little
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Speaker 4: pressure on I realize I can get up, so I
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Speaker 4: was just trying to get up and get off and
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Speaker 4: go off the field. So yeah, that's that's all it.
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Speaker 1: Was there, and we're not going to speculate to that,
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Speaker 1: but we did see Trevor walking around. He spoke to
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Speaker 1: his post game. You know, if it's really severe injuries,
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Speaker 1: sometimes they skip that. So if he's not able to
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Speaker 1: go this week, it's a short week, so this could
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Speaker 1: be a chance where you know, there's several injuries on
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Speaker 1: the steam Campbell as well, where can they get right
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Speaker 1: in two.
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Speaker 3: Three days, I'm gonna lay out because that's my hont
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Speaker 3: take sure.
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Speaker 2: Well, Thursday night games not all of them, but they
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Speaker 2: are often a matter of a couple of teams trying
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Speaker 2: to patch things together, not only medically but game plan wise,
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Speaker 2: energy wise, and they're often sloppy seventeen to sixteen games
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Speaker 2: where you wonder how in the world this team will.
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Speaker 2: You know, Doug's pretty good on Thursday games. Yeah, I
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Speaker 2: think they'll figure out a way to keep it simple
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Speaker 2: and have a chance. But a lot of times they're
10:36
Speaker 2: these kind of games for this reason, because if you
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Speaker 2: get guys kind of nicked up, that's what you have
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Speaker 2: to go to.
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Speaker 3: If you ever wonder what the NFL's about, it's about
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Speaker 3: the money, because Thursday night games by billion dollars to
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Speaker 3: the equation to the bottom line for players, and it's
10:51
Speaker 3: why they don't complain too too much. But man, it
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Speaker 3: is really difficult again, especially coming off of London, coming
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Speaker 3: back playing a game going there, It is really difficult
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Speaker 3: for a team to be able to play on a
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Speaker 3: normal Thursday with just two or three days to get ready.
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Speaker 3: But the money says we do it, and.
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Speaker 2: So they do. They're going to do it.
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Speaker 1: I have no idea what to expect, though in Thursday
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Speaker 1: Today, we are back. It's victory Monday. All things are well.
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Speaker 1: So we're going to look at some of the highlights
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Speaker 1: from the game yesterday because there were a lot of
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Speaker 1: them and things went really well for them, and at
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Speaker 1: least on defense they got everything together and the offense
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Speaker 1: looked good at points as well. We're going to start
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Speaker 1: out with that drive early on their first score, Brendon
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Speaker 1: Strange setting up the touchdown to Travis Etn Because we
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Speaker 1: love it when they can do it in multiple ways, right,
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Speaker 1: Strange is probably himself that he didn't get into the
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Speaker 1: end zone. You could see right there because he's like, oh,
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Speaker 1: that was my opportunity. He can get one later on,
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Speaker 1: but then Etn to run it in from there. And
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Speaker 1: Etn has just been the MVP so far this season.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, just such a consistent football player. There weren't a
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Speaker 3: lot of holes yesterday, especially after Brandon Sheriff went out,
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Speaker 3: but the way he hits the hole and the coach
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Speaker 3: said they were going to get him to go downhill
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Speaker 3: and I thought, he doesn't look like a downhill runner
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Speaker 3: to me. He does this year.
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Speaker 1: He certainly turned the page and just adapted to what
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Speaker 1: they need them to be.
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Speaker 3: John.
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Speaker 1: It's like he looks completely different at times depending on
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Speaker 1: what they need from him.
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Speaker 2: Well, he had some runs yesterday that really exemplified what
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Speaker 2: he's trying to do, being more patient, not always trying
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Speaker 2: to go for the big play. The first second of
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Speaker 2: the play on the fourth and one. Sweep for showing
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Speaker 2: that later, but he clearly waited for his blockers while
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Speaker 2: I was patient on fourth and one, which is hard
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Speaker 2: to do because every instinct is to go after it again.
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Speaker 2: I thought that first drive said so much about this team.
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Speaker 2: There being games early on where the Colts go down
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Speaker 2: and threaten. Maybe they give up a touchdown, but certainly
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Speaker 2: the offense in a lot of games this season early
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Speaker 2: you're down three and h in, the offense stalls punt
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Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden it's ten. Nothing to
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Speaker 2: come out and just really have a well enforcing drive
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Speaker 2: on that first drive. Trevor said it after the game,
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Speaker 2: he thought that really set the tone and said, hey,
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Speaker 2: you guys can do that. Well, we're that kind of
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Speaker 2: team too. Well, I thought that says something about the team.
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Speaker 3: Well, it was a statement drive because the Colts chewed
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Speaker 3: up eight and a half minutes and sixteen plays and
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Speaker 3: the jag Wars came back with seven and a half
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Speaker 3: minutes and thirteen plays and ended up with the touchdown
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Speaker 3: on top of it. It said okay, you got your
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Speaker 3: time on the field. Now watch what we do. And
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Speaker 3: they had to go forward and fourth down right because
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Speaker 3: they couldn't be convert on third, which is a bugaboo
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Speaker 3: for this offense still, but they got it done with
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Speaker 3: Travis's run, and at that moment it's like, Okay, they got.
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Speaker 2: This, and I got a lot of early in the
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Speaker 2: season when fourth and one or a fourth and go
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Speaker 2: for it didn't work. I got a lot of complaints.
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Speaker 2: It was amazing how many people white. Awesome done. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: that's how it is. Sometimes you kill the bear, Brian,
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Speaker 2: sometimes the bear kills you.
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Speaker 3: I'd like to say, good plays are ones that work
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Speaker 3: in bad playser ones that don't.
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Speaker 1: That's very, very true. And Doug always seems to go
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Speaker 1: for it, so he ends up dealing with some of
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Speaker 1: that criticism. But when it works out, he looks really
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Speaker 1: really smart. Let's go to Etn's second touchdown of the
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Speaker 1: day was very quickly after that first touchdown thanks to
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Speaker 1: his friend Josh Allen creating that strip sack on the
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Speaker 1: other side of the ball. And I mean, Josh Allen's
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Speaker 1: playing about as lights out as you can for I
14:29
Speaker 1: know we talk about this every week, but it's like
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Speaker 1: every week he's doing something else.
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Speaker 3: And let me just tell you. Right before the snap, okay,
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Speaker 3: because it was the first snap of the drive, CBS
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Speaker 3: put up a stat that said that Bernard Ryman was
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Speaker 3: fourth in the league, the first year starter at left tackle,
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Speaker 3: fourth in the league and pressures allowed. They were pumping
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Speaker 3: him up and then here comes Josh Allen and just reludless.
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Speaker 2: There was some stat too, and I didn't see the
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Speaker 2: whole thing, but basically laying out that Josh Allen at
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Speaker 2: least the league in pressures and had a higher pressure
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Speaker 2: percentage yesterday going against Raymond than any player in the league.
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Speaker 2: He's a game wrecker right now. Yeah, he's playing really well.
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Speaker 2: To me, he's playing like he always has, except now
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Speaker 2: he's getting that extra second in the sack.
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Speaker 3: And I talked to him last night and I said,
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Speaker 3: it's all about finish. You said it in August, he said,
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Speaker 3: and I'll be saying it in December this year. I'm
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Speaker 3: finishing on every play.
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Speaker 1: He's going to earn that paycheck. I know that much
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Speaker 1: because he looks impressive every time he touched the football,
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Speaker 1: and he feels like he touches the football every time
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Speaker 1: he's out there on defense. And of course this leads
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Speaker 1: to Etn just finding his way around. I know, we
15:40
Speaker 1: talked about him waiting for his block. Sometimes he finds
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Speaker 1: his own way there though.
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Speaker 3: You can just see as that play evolves, and we're
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Speaker 3: going to see it again. When you see that much
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Speaker 3: space around Travis Etn, You're like, well, he's going to score.
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Speaker 3: Look at that.
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Speaker 1: He'll find a way.
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Speaker 3: He's just so he's so good. He's better than I
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Speaker 3: thought he was going to pay.
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Speaker 2: Well, he's better. He's tough for He's also tougher to
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Speaker 2: bring down than you would think for his size because
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Speaker 2: he has a way of positioning his body so you
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Speaker 2: never really get like a good first hit on him.
16:09
Speaker 2: I don't know if he breaks tackles as much as
16:12
Speaker 2: he bounces off would be tackle, but it's the same result.
16:17
Speaker 2: And uh yeah with you, Brian. I thought he would
16:20
Speaker 2: be good. I thought he would be complimentary. I didn't
16:24
Speaker 2: think he would be the guy Dewey.
16:25
Speaker 3: Told me last week that Jonathan Taylor is a slippery runner.
16:28
Speaker 3: You just never get a chance to get a good
16:31
Speaker 3: hit on him because he can what they call flip
16:33
Speaker 3: his hips and turn his body at the right moment.
16:35
Speaker 3: Well that was that was what he did on that play.
16:38
Speaker 3: So he's running like Jonathan Taylor does. That's saying something
16:41
Speaker 3: because Taylor's no all pro do he.
16:43
Speaker 2: Is Andrew winning good, Brian, and Andrew.
16:46
Speaker 3: On a first nickname, Is there another player in the
16:50
Speaker 3: locker room who you can you don't have to use
16:52
Speaker 3: his first name and everybody knows who he is.
16:53
Speaker 1: Well, it was always the Jag, so he's got that,
16:56
Speaker 1: of course everybody knows to Let's look at Cisco's third
17:00
Speaker 1: interception of the year. He seems to be having his
17:02
Speaker 1: hand on the football as well every single time, and
17:05
Speaker 1: he's very sure handed when it gets thrown his way,
17:08
Speaker 1: and he creates those turnovers. And we discuss this a
17:10
Speaker 1: little bit because there's so many takeaways for this team.
17:13
Speaker 1: With a team that's struggling on offense, give them extra possessions.
17:15
Speaker 1: That's got to help out a little bit.
17:16
Speaker 3: We'll tell you what, especially with you got an offensive
17:18
Speaker 3: line that's struggling right now with injuries Walker little Brandon Sheriff.
17:22
Speaker 3: To have a defense that can give the ball back
17:25
Speaker 3: in short fields, right and if you have to play
17:27
Speaker 3: just guessing you, if you have to play with CJ.
17:29
Speaker 3: Bethord on Thursday night and you give him short fields, no.
17:32
Speaker 2: Problem, all right?
17:34
Speaker 1: I like to hear that. Let's move on quickly. Trevor
17:36
Speaker 1: to Kirk for their touchdown. That was a good little situation.
17:40
Speaker 1: I think they talked a little bit about it, just
17:42
Speaker 1: a preview of sounds of the game. They talked a
17:44
Speaker 1: little bit about how they had been working on something
17:45
Speaker 1: similar in practice, and they obviously their connection is just,
17:49
Speaker 1: you know, as similar to Calvin Win, You're just like
17:51
Speaker 1: kind of give him the eye and then he knows
17:52
Speaker 1: what to do. Just to see that set up.
17:54
Speaker 2: There, well, it's a big moment for Trevor. He saw
17:57
Speaker 2: something on film this week it indicated that would be there.
18:01
Speaker 2: He talked to Christian about it, they decided what they
18:04
Speaker 2: were going to do, and then it worked. As he said,
18:08
Speaker 2: it doesn't always work when you think you see it,
18:11
Speaker 2: but to have it pay off a little easier to
18:15
Speaker 2: spend those extra hours in the film room when you've
18:18
Speaker 2: seen that success. It could be in the long run
18:23
Speaker 2: an important play for him. Not that he doesn't do
18:25
Speaker 2: it anyway, but seeing it being able to apply it,
18:29
Speaker 2: that's pretty cool. Those are the moments that he'll remember
18:31
Speaker 2: after the season.
18:32
Speaker 3: I just we're getting used to Trevor making really good throws.
18:35
Speaker 3: That was an excellent throw. I mean he hit his
18:36
Speaker 3: backstep and just let it rip. Not every quarterback in
18:40
Speaker 3: the league and make that throw like he does, and.
18:41
Speaker 1: The trust there obviously to make that catch as well
18:43
Speaker 1: was good to see. Let's do racheon Jenkins interception to
18:46
Speaker 1: get that first interception taken away because of a penalty,
18:49
Speaker 1: but got his hands back on the football and got
18:51
Speaker 1: another one, got his chance to celebrate. I don't know
18:53
Speaker 1: if we have a name for it, is the Jacks jump,
18:55
Speaker 1: the bank leap, whatever we're going to call it after
18:57
Speaker 1: when he jumps into the stands. But I mean, Rachel's
19:00
Speaker 1: kind of someone we don't talk about. But he's been
19:02
Speaker 1: playing amazing too.
19:03
Speaker 3: Listen, after twenty twenty one, you're thinking, how long do
19:05
Speaker 3: I have to pay this guy nine million to play safety?
19:07
Speaker 3: Then last year he comes up with two of the
19:10
Speaker 3: most iconic defensive plays in franchise history, You're thinking, how
19:15
Speaker 3: long do I get to pay him nine million dollars
19:17
Speaker 3: to play safety? Because he just comes up with big
19:20
Speaker 3: plays for this football team. His energy level. John to me,
19:24
Speaker 3: that's what he does for this football team, is he
19:27
Speaker 3: has them play to match his intensity.
19:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really defense in the NFL is like this
19:34
Speaker 2: across the board. He really exemplifies it. As safety in
19:38
Speaker 2: the secondary, you are going to give up some plays.
19:43
Speaker 2: He I think sets the tone for the defense in
19:47
Speaker 2: the sense that if there's a bad play the next play,
19:51
Speaker 2: he's going as hard doing his assignment. And that sounds easy,
19:55
Speaker 2: but it doesn't always work that way. You know, you
19:57
Speaker 2: give up a play and all of a sudden, your
19:59
Speaker 2: energy level goes down. You get down yourself. This defense,
20:02
Speaker 2: last year, when it wasn't a very very good defense,
20:05
Speaker 2: made big plays at key times. Ray Sean sort of
20:09
Speaker 2: exemplified those big plays. He's a good player. Cisco is
20:13
Speaker 2: a good player. Darius Williams is getting better. If you're
20:16
Speaker 2: going to be a good team and be there at
20:17
Speaker 2: the end, you got to have guys who maybe you
20:19
Speaker 2: didn't talk about before the season. There's a bunch of
20:21
Speaker 2: guys in this team like that.
20:22
Speaker 3: I won't confess to Ari will confess to not knowing
20:25
Speaker 3: every safety tandem in the league. But if there's a
20:26
Speaker 3: better tandem than Cisco and Jenkins, I'd love to see
20:30
Speaker 3: it because the way they're playing. Last year they led
20:32
Speaker 3: all safety tandems. It passes defense. This year, they're intercepting
20:37
Speaker 3: the ball, they're coming up strong against the run. Maybe
20:40
Speaker 3: there's a better safety tandem. I don't know right now.
20:42
Speaker 3: I nominate them absolutely. We love what we've been seeing
20:44
Speaker 3: from them.
20:45
Speaker 1: And sometimes that old adage of on defense, if they're
20:47
Speaker 1: not saying your name, it's a good thing because you're
20:48
Speaker 1: shutting down everybody that's coming or all the balls that
20:50
Speaker 1: are coming your way. Our final highlight's going to be
20:52
Speaker 1: brent Strange getting his first career touchdown in the NFL.
20:56
Speaker 1: He almost had his touchdown in that first drive, came
21:00
Speaker 1: up just a little bit short and ETN got the score.
21:02
Speaker 1: But it's cool to see Travor spreading the ball around.
21:04
Speaker 1: I mean, he always tries to find whoever's open, but
21:07
Speaker 1: it's it's nice to get the tight ends.
21:08
Speaker 3: If you remember Atn's first touchdown in London last week,
21:13
Speaker 3: there was a beautiful seal block by Strange on Jordan Phillips,
21:16
Speaker 3: who's three hundred and forty pounds, and you could just
21:18
Speaker 3: see the pride that the kid had as he came
21:20
Speaker 3: off the field because that block really set Eten up
21:23
Speaker 3: to get around the corner. So the question was asked
21:25
Speaker 3: last week in a news conference, you know, how how
21:28
Speaker 3: long until Brenton Strange gets more involved? And then this
21:31
Speaker 3: week they get him involved. He's a talented young player
21:36
Speaker 3: who has a lot of upside, John and by the
21:39
Speaker 3: end of this season, I think you'll see a guy
21:41
Speaker 3: that you really like.
21:42
Speaker 2: Look, we're so impatient these days, and I've seen stories
21:46
Speaker 2: about what the Jaguars draft class isn't We're six games in, yeah,
21:50
Speaker 2: and their rookies we have to right, So this guy
21:55
Speaker 2: is already a good player, meaning he's a really good blocker.
21:59
Speaker 2: Mayor the tank they be played at the beginning of
22:01
Speaker 2: the season carry Tank in.
22:02
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what I did a Jordan Phillips last
22:04
Speaker 3: week was epic.
22:04
Speaker 2: He's a really good blocker already. You're seeing what he
22:08
Speaker 2: can do on this play. He has athleticism to do
22:10
Speaker 2: this in this offense when you've got seventy five skill
22:14
Speaker 2: guys who are all good. Breton Strange is not going
22:17
Speaker 2: to be a huge factor all season in the way
22:19
Speaker 2: that Ingram is because how many balls you have to
22:21
Speaker 2: go around. But he started showing yesterday what he can
22:25
Speaker 2: give you is a wrinkle. Am I saying fans have
22:29
Speaker 2: just been killing Breton Strange. But the ones who had
22:31
Speaker 2: me to get off his back because he's good.
22:34
Speaker 3: Draft ded we talked about Breton Strange and Tank big speed,
22:37
Speaker 3: second and third pick right, second third round picks, guys
22:40
Speaker 3: who would have a role in the offense. We're starting
22:42
Speaker 3: to see that now. Tank's got a master protection, but
22:45
Speaker 3: he has upside on the field, just like this kid.
22:48
Speaker 3: If by the end of the year, these two guys
22:49
Speaker 3: have a package, each one of them have their own,
22:52
Speaker 3: then this offense will really be playing well. Well.
22:54
Speaker 2: Tanks this year obviously is going to be It's hard
22:59
Speaker 2: as a coaching staff to find ways to get etn
23:01
Speaker 2: off the field right now.
23:02
Speaker 3: Well, I'm not taking the ball out of his hands,
23:04
Speaker 3: that's true, but just talking to guys, you know, oh,
23:06
Speaker 3: he'll be in there now. It isn't mastered protections yet,
23:08
Speaker 3: and it's tough to have him out there with the quarterback,
23:10
Speaker 3: especially with the offensive line not playing as well as
23:12
Speaker 3: it has.
23:13
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, at the point that the team is at now
23:15
Speaker 1: with drafting, you can give them the time to figure
23:17
Speaker 1: that out. It's not You're not throwing them in there
23:19
Speaker 1: trying to figure it out on the fly. They have
23:21
Speaker 1: the ability now with the way the roster is put together.
23:24
Speaker 2: Stay with us.
23:24
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24:02
Speaker 1: share with this now, way you take it.
24:03
Speaker 3: People might have figured this out, but I would air
24:07
Speaker 3: on the side of caution this week, and I would
24:09
Speaker 3: sit injured players. Now, look, if the quarterback comes out,
24:12
Speaker 3: you know, we find out today, no problem. You know,
24:14
Speaker 3: just stuck the knee in the ground. It felt wrong,
24:16
Speaker 3: but he's fine. Well, then play it right. But it's
24:18
Speaker 3: your third game in twelve days. It is a non
24:21
Speaker 3: conference game on the road on Thursday night. You've got
24:24
Speaker 3: two starting offensive linemen that probably won't play, maybe a
24:27
Speaker 3: starting corner that won't play. My thought is sit them all.
24:31
Speaker 3: The Cleveland Browns found a way to beat the mighty
24:33
Speaker 3: San Francisco forty nine ers yesterday with p J Walker
24:36
Speaker 3: p J Walker as their starting quarterback.
24:38
Speaker 2: They did it with defense. They took the ball away.
24:41
Speaker 3: You know, put a game plan together, put the guys
24:43
Speaker 3: in that have been working hard, you know, on the
24:45
Speaker 3: practice field. But take this opportunity to give all these
24:48
Speaker 3: guys two weeks to get ready for a conference game
24:52
Speaker 3: against the Steelers. I would air on the side of
24:54
Speaker 3: caution and if it's even a question of could sit
24:56
Speaker 3: them all.
24:56
Speaker 2: This week, yeah, I think for the most part they will.
25:00
Speaker 2: Guys like Zay Jones and Walker Little.
25:03
Speaker 3: Brent Sheriff, Tyson Campbell.
25:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would do that before I would do it
25:08
Speaker 2: with the quarterback because the quarterback gives you a shot.
25:11
Speaker 2: It's so tough. It's just a matter of really how
25:14
Speaker 2: we're getting can he protect them himself? Will be as
25:19
Speaker 2: always the gauge you use, So I agree to a point,
25:24
Speaker 2: but they basically do that anyway. If a guys going
25:27
Speaker 2: to be marginal and can't protect themself, they won't play it.
25:30
Speaker 3: You're not going fifteen to two, right, I mean, you're
25:32
Speaker 3: not winning the rest of the games this season. You
25:34
Speaker 3: probably have four to five games you know that you
25:36
Speaker 3: lose this year, even if you're a really good team.
25:39
Speaker 3: So I'm willing to sacrifice and take my chances with
25:42
Speaker 3: my backups. Again, you know, watching how the Browns got
25:45
Speaker 3: it done yesterday with their defense. I think you could
25:48
Speaker 3: be in a good spot. I just it's the quarterback obviously.
25:51
Speaker 3: I mean everybody else, but it's the quarterback in particular.
25:54
Speaker 3: And we'll find out what the doctors saying.
25:56
Speaker 2: We will.
25:56
Speaker 1: We'll have some more information coming up later in the week,
25:58
Speaker 1: so we'll have a better idea in what we can
26:00
Speaker 1: share with you guys on Wednesday, John, what's your hot
26:02
Speaker 1: take for this week?
26:03
Speaker 2: I feel like I've probably used this hot take already,
26:05
Speaker 2: so maybe it's luc it's important. But every time you
26:11
Speaker 2: say the defense is good and then you sort of
26:13
Speaker 2: go and they play well, and everybody's like, oh, well,
26:16
Speaker 2: oh well, look at the defense, I'm surprised. Well, I
26:19
Speaker 2: guess it's time to stop being surprised. These guys are good.
26:22
Speaker 2: Forty two turnovers in twenty three games under called well, now,
26:27
Speaker 2: it's what they do. They're an effective pass rush and
26:33
Speaker 2: they use it all the time when they rush as
26:34
Speaker 2: a team. Josh Allen is the star, but these guys
26:39
Speaker 2: pressure the quarterback. They affect I think they're going to
26:42
Speaker 2: be better when they get Devon Hamilton back, and Smooth's
26:44
Speaker 2: gonna help that so until they show us different. It's
26:49
Speaker 2: really two plays, two miscommunications against the Texans that are
26:54
Speaker 2: the only really flaw on this defense's resume this year.
26:57
Speaker 2: These guys are good and I don't see any reason
26:59
Speaker 2: why they won't be. Look in the NFL, he gets
27:01
Speaker 2: seventeen games defenses, They're going to have a couple of
27:05
Speaker 2: games where the offense is just roll because the league
27:07
Speaker 2: set up that way right now. But I think his
27:09
Speaker 2: defense will play very, very well, winning football thirteen or
27:12
Speaker 2: fourteen times.
27:12
Speaker 3: Listen, they're number one in the AFC in run defense,
27:16
Speaker 3: number three in the NFL. Right they are giving up
27:19
Speaker 3: seventy five yards on the ground. They're second in yards
27:22
Speaker 3: per rushing attempt at three point five. That is winning
27:25
Speaker 3: football when you do that and you forced the opposing
27:28
Speaker 3: quarterback to throw fifty five times. I was reading last week,
27:32
Speaker 3: we're gonna get two or three up. There was a
27:34
Speaker 3: reporter who covers the Colts who made a prediction, and
27:36
Speaker 3: I get a prediction, start conversation. But he thought that
27:38
Speaker 3: the Colts would run for two hundred because they had
27:41
Speaker 3: more time with Jonathan Taylor and more time with Zack Moss. Well,
27:44
Speaker 3: there was no way they were going to run for
27:46
Speaker 3: two hundred yards none because of this Jaguars defense. Is
27:49
Speaker 3: that good. I bring that up because obviously the rest
27:51
Speaker 3: of the league is slow to catch on that this
27:54
Speaker 3: defense is legit. It is legit.
27:57
Speaker 1: I think sometimes defenses don't get the credit there because
28:00
Speaker 1: you look at the box score and they're like, oh,
28:01
Speaker 1: they allowed twenty points.
28:02
Speaker 2: Oh they allowed this.
28:02
Speaker 1: But it's like when you're creating turnovers like that, that's
28:06
Speaker 1: more valuable in my opinion, in the league.
28:07
Speaker 3: They're number three against the run, really super impressive. I
28:10
Speaker 3: think they're twelfth overall because their pass defense isn't very good.
28:14
Speaker 3: But when you stopped the run and you forced teams
28:17
Speaker 3: to throw, like the Bills and the Culture coming from behind,
28:21
Speaker 3: same thing with the Falcons the last three games. You've
28:24
Speaker 3: shut down the run and you forced teams to throw
28:26
Speaker 3: to try to play catchup. Well, you're gonna give up
28:28
Speaker 3: some yardage. That's the way the league is set up.
28:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, out of the twelfth. You know, when you rank
28:34
Speaker 2: twelve means given them a lot of yards or yardage
28:38
Speaker 2: in one category or the other. Well, think about how
28:40
Speaker 2: many of those yards have come in chunk plays. With
28:43
Speaker 2: the Jaguars leading by double ditch at the end of
28:45
Speaker 2: the games the bunch against the Bills, which the Bills stuff.
28:49
Speaker 2: I'm not discounting it, but it was still in sort
28:52
Speaker 2: of protect time. They're a good defense, and if a
28:59
Speaker 2: lot of the yards the last two weeks, you can't
29:03
Speaker 2: watch those games and say the defense played poorly in
29:06
Speaker 2: those games. So they're a good defense five out of
29:09
Speaker 2: six times this year.
29:09
Speaker 3: Yep.
29:10
Speaker 1: All right for my hot take, I'm going elsewhere in
29:12
Speaker 1: the division because I think the Texans are going to
29:14
Speaker 1: be trouble. I know we talked a lot about the
29:16
Speaker 1: Titans always have that in them, but they really haven't
29:19
Speaker 1: put much together at least a third of the way
29:20
Speaker 1: through the season.
29:21
Speaker 2: Right now.
29:21
Speaker 4: C J.
29:22
Speaker 1: Stroud is still on an amazing pace. He did throw
29:24
Speaker 1: his first pick of the year, but didn't rattle, and
29:26
Speaker 1: he came right back through two touchdowns through I think
29:29
Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety nine yards and got to win
29:31
Speaker 1: over the Saints. And I think for this team to
29:34
Speaker 1: be able to do what they're doing, Demiko Riins is
29:36
Speaker 1: amazing in his first year as a head coach. He's
29:38
Speaker 1: clearly bringing that tenacity that they need. And yes, they're
29:41
Speaker 1: overachieving at this point. But that's the trouble. And obviously
29:44
Speaker 1: with that loss to them we've had earlier in the season,
29:46
Speaker 1: they worry me a little more than I thought they
29:48
Speaker 1: were going to at this point in the year.
29:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, me too. C J. Stroud is an effortless passer
29:53
Speaker 3: of the ball. I mean, he's just so gifted. They
29:56
Speaker 3: don't have a lot of down the field weapons, but
29:58
Speaker 3: he makes the most of what he does have. And
30:00
Speaker 3: Denika Ryans as a defense that's not all that talented, right,
30:03
Speaker 3: but he's got them playing at a very high level.
30:05
Speaker 3: So as long as they stay close, c J. Stroud
30:08
Speaker 3: gives them a chance to win, and that means they'll
30:10
Speaker 3: be in this thing longer than I thought they would be.
30:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're the Jags, you I mean, it's sort
30:15
Speaker 2: of of course, John, you want them to lose a
30:19
Speaker 2: couple and get a little bit of air between you
30:23
Speaker 2: and them, because you've got to go there at some point,
30:27
Speaker 2: and if you go there playing with a one game lead,
30:30
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden you're playing at their place,
30:33
Speaker 2: and if they beat you, they got the suite, So
30:34
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, they becomes a really pressure game
30:36
Speaker 2: unless you got a little air with you.
30:37
Speaker 3: Well, and you saw cracking the armor the kid through
30:39
Speaker 3: his first interception, which means that teams are starting to
30:42
Speaker 3: kind of figure out, you know, how they're using him.
30:44
Speaker 3: He'll have other games like that. But you still they're
30:47
Speaker 3: gonna apply pressure, and you know that that's probably a
30:49
Speaker 3: good thing, right for this team not to be able
30:52
Speaker 3: to coast to the division title, you have to fight
30:54
Speaker 3: for it because they showed us last year. They like that, right,
30:57
Speaker 3: that's who this team is. Having the Texans on their
31:01
Speaker 3: heels will make it more interesting for us and more
31:05
Speaker 3: intense for them, and that's probably good.
31:07
Speaker 2: You know what they like more than that two game leads.
31:11
Speaker 3: We gotta fight for it.
31:12
Speaker 2: Build's character. We gotta fight for it.
31:14
Speaker 3: But you're right, and this is who they are. They
31:16
Speaker 3: played better, Yeah, under pressure.
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Speaker 6: Department grad Congratulations your first place in the MC South
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Speaker 6: right now, great team effort, Great team effort. We talked
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Speaker 6: we that we started over in Monday and we brought
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Speaker 6: all over it, right, appreciate Hey is beginning to like
32:20
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32:23
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Speaker 5: Service on how good we can be as a football
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Speaker 5: team once any one two three.
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Speaker 1: Touched on it right there. First place in the AFC South.
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Speaker 1: And it's a short week, so we'll be moving on quickly.
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Speaker 3: It's already Thursday. It feels like the schedule. Yeah, we're
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Speaker 3: back in the days, right, so you know today is
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Speaker 3: Wednesday and Thursday all rolled into one.
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Speaker 1: It's true. We'll hear from Dougwell try to get some
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Speaker 1: details about what Trevor's injury are, Campbell's injury as well,
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Speaker 1: and kind of what they might be looking for on Thursday.
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Speaker 1: Trevor speak to us tomorrow as well, hear from him,
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Speaker 1: and we'll bring you all the latest details on Wednesday
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Speaker 1: here on Jack Say Yeah.