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- Chesla Wechsler: of the same family with me today. Here are Jennifer and Mackenzie, mother and daughter. Neither one has watched Doc Martin, so they are unspoiled. and both have been enthusiastic viewers of Best Medicine. Welcome to Podcast Portwenn. Mackenzie Malpass: Hi everybody. Thanks for having us. Chesla Wechsler: I'm delighted to have you guys. ⁓ It sounds like you guys are enjoying the show. Mackenzie Malpass: Yes, absolutely. This is really cute. We didn't watch Doc Martin and we're excited now to watch it. But now that we're watching Best Medicine, it's a good show. We're enjoying it. Yeah, we're really enjoying it. Yes. And it's fun to be able to see almost like a reverse of what I'm sure you guys are doing where we're kind of starting at the end and then while we get to go back and see it all from the beginning. Chesla Wechsler: That's right, that's right. And it is a US adaptation and so it's not exactly the same show, ⁓ but it's obviously they've taken some plot arcs from it, they've taken the characters and the underlying themes are the same. Mackenzie Malpass: Yeah. Chesla Wechsler: ⁓ So which one of enjoys it the most? Mackenzie Malpass: Ooh, that's tough. Well, I think I laugh out loud louder than you do. When we were watching the episode of when they thought they had the plague, I think that was episode 10, I think it was. And I just kept, I thought that was the best episode for me because I thought it was the funniest. So I was just laughing out loud the whole time and everybody else in the house was just, ha ha ha ha. But I was. a little more vocal about my laughing. she's definitely she gets a kick out of it. I love it though because I really enjoy how theatrical it is. I feel like you don't really get a lot of shows nowadays that take a little bit more of like that theatrical approach. I think a lot of stuff is very heavy nowadays and it's nice to just have something light and fun and just very welcoming. I feel like anybody can watch the show and genuinely enjoy it. So it's really I like it a lot. Chesla Wechsler: Good, good, good. Now you watch it as a family, correct? And you said Michael, Jennifer, your husband watches it as well? Mackenzie Malpass: Yay. Yes. Yes. he actually, honestly, I would say that he likes it the most. Yeah, he asked us to put it on. He's like, ⁓ we got another episode. Each week when we sit down, you know, late at night, we would put the TV on. He'll say, wait a minute, is the new episode of Best Medicine out? And he'll be clicking, looking for it. So I would say he likes it the best. But we all enjoy it. It's family time, it's a show we can all watch together and enjoy and not have to worry about anything. So we really enjoy watching it every week. And I think we've all liked different episodes for different reasons, but we all really enjoyed that episode 10, like I said, I it was. the plague. Chesla Wechsler: Yeah, I'm trying to remember the plague. When was the plague? I think it might have been 11, but I'm not sure. Mackenzie Malpass: Oh, you know what? I did write it down. It was episode 11 and it was the plague one. So I did. Chesla Wechsler: You can imagine, I study the show and I talk to so many people, it tends to, I remember the later ones much better than I remember the earlier ones. Do you watch on Fox or on Hulu? Mackenzie Malpass: Yes, yes. On Hulu. Yeah, we watch it the next day. So I don't know why. I don't know why, but we just pick Wednesdays to watch it. So Wednesday nights when we flick on Hulu and put it on. And we all get excited. We're like, all right, everybody come sit. We all sit in the TV room and put it on and maybe pop some popcorn and. Chesla Wechsler: Okay. Okay. Mackenzie Malpass: You know, and if anybody does have to get up, this is a show that we will pause until the person comes back. We don't do that for every show. That's not something we do for everything we watch, but for Best Medicine, we will pause it until the person gets back in the room. So funny. And it is so nice to have a show that all of us can watch as a family. Like, it's hard to find shows to watch with the parents that isn't, you know, a little scandalous or it's boring or it's just you feel like you're watching Chesla Wechsler: That's great. Yeah. Mackenzie Malpass: like you know something that a kid should be watching it's for everybody so yeah it's really nice. I think everybody can really enjoy this ⁓ it's because it's not so over the top you know the characters some of them are they're more caricatures of Chesla Wechsler: Yeah. That's great. Mackenzie Malpass: of the people. But it's not so over the top that people might be like, ⁓ yeah, I'm not going to watch that. I really think everybody enjoys it. And we've told other people about it. Like, I'll tell people at work about it. And they'll come back and say, yeah, I started watching it. It's really good. So yeah, we're, yes, we're, we're influencers about Best Medicine. So it is. Chesla Wechsler: So you're being an influencer. That's fun. That's great. Now, have you ever watched an episode more than once or are you just working your way through ⁓ each one at a time? Mackenzie Malpass: We're just working our way through. So each week we'll watch the episode. ⁓ I don't think we've watched any twice. No, but this is definitely a show that you can go back and rewatch. And it's enjoyable the second time. I'm a big rewatcher. I love we are going through series just every year repeatedly. So this is definitely one we would add to the list for sure. Yeah. Chesla Wechsler: That's great. Good, good. Now you had talked about there's people at work and stuff who you have gotten to watch the show. Do you find that since it is something that comes out weekly and you guys watch it in a timely manner, is there ever a, did you watch the episode last night and chatting about it at work? Mackenzie Malpass: Yes, so we don't have the water cooler at work since I work in a school, you know, we don't gather around the water cooler. But when we're walking in hallways, there's a few people that, you know, I know have been watching it. So in passing, it's, hey, what did you think about the show? I like this and that was great. And then we keep going. So so we do talk about it in the hallways. And then another teacher might hear, ⁓ wait, what show were you talking about? And, know, it kind of then more people get interested in it. yes, we do discuss it the next day or at some point that week we'll talk about it. So yeah, it's become a topic of conversation. Some of the people like certain characters more than others and some people, especially the first few episodes of the season. I think some of the people at work were saying some of the characters were a little much like Elaine with the social media and Mark as the police officer, that they were a a little... a little much to handle, but as the season went on, I think they became, I don't know, they just started liking those characters more and more and becoming more attached to them. So I don't know if it's because the characters weren't so much over the top or they just started liking them. I'm not sure. Chesla Wechsler: I found that they grew on me as time went on. I think maybe they settled out a little bit. Now, Elaine, I'm guessing Elaine is maybe 20, 21 years old and Al is maybe 20, 21. Is that your impression as well? Mackenzie Malpass: Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think it like. Prof. Oh, yeah, actually no in the episode. We just watched Al said he was 19 didn't he? No, no said he was in his 20, 20? I think they said okay. Um, but yes I do think that's like the argument and that you know She's going off to college, but maybe took a couple years to try and figure her life out So yeah, I would say probably like early 20s Yeah Chesla Wechsler: Okay, now I am terrible with these generation things. So Gen Z, I don't know what that extends to. So Mackenzie, are you Gen Z and are they Gen Z? Mackenzie Malpass: Thanks. I'm Gen Z and so Elaine and Al would also be Gen Z. ⁓ I'm really ⁓ at that too so I don't know the official year that that cuts off but yes. you are Gen Z? I am We are not Gen Z. Chesla Wechsler: I am apparently what they're I am not Gen Z, I am what they call Generation Jones, which is the very tail end of, yeah, that's what they're calling the very tail end of boomers. Jennifer, where are you? Mackenzie Malpass: Jones. I have no idea I fall. Now I have to You're not a millennial. Are you like, yeah. ⁓ Maybe I'm. don't know. I'll be looking that up after this is done. ⁓ Chesla Wechsler: No. Yeah, I don't know what that is. Yeah, let me know and I'll put a little textual banner over it and say, Jennifer found out she is this. Mackenzie Malpass: Yeah, Jennifer is Jen whatever. Chesla Wechsler: Yes, yes. Yeah, because, yeah, you wouldn't be a millennial, but you wouldn't be a boomer, and you wouldn't be this Gen Jones nonsense. anyway, whatever that means. Mackenzie, do you have a favorite episode? Mackenzie Malpass: Whatever that is. I honestly I really love the finale. I wasn't finale. So all the season last night. Was it the finale? That was the season finale, right? Yes. Okay. Chesla Wechsler: Season finale. Yep. Mackenzie Malpass: I thought that was really cute because I I've been really interested in Louisa and Martin's little love story they have going on ⁓ I'm a hopeless romantic. So that's kind of where my interest peaks throughout the show And I also really loved how they left it on a cliffhanger. I Love a good cliffhanger. I want it. That's what makes me want to keep watching is ⁓ well now I have to find out what's going on with them ⁓ So I do think it was really that Martin's kind of like officially noticing that he really does want to be with Alisa but her with her baby she wants to have a baby she doesn't know if she's gonna have it now with Mark the police officer and now he's saying that you can have a baby with me like I'm just waiting for them to get together but that's the closest I think we've gotten to them finally kind of admitting that they want to be together so that's I'm excited. Chesla Wechsler: They're back and forth, back and forth. It seems like every time one of them gives a signal, it just gets misunderstood or turned around the wrong way. mean, that kiss, geez. Mackenzie Malpass: Yes. Ugh. That was a great kiss. was amazing. Remember I was going, woo! Why don't you clap? I'm so excited. I started cheering. I know. I was honestly shocked they didn't officially start their relationship after that kiss. But obviously we know that Martin just feels really badly for Mark and doesn't really have a good regulation of emotions and what he wants and goes after it. So I do like that they're kind of doing this little push and pull, a little bit of a slow burn. I'm ready. We're ready. for this to get kicked into gear. Yeah, but now Martin's ex-girlfriend is in the picture. What's that? She showed up at end of the episode and we were like, uh. I don't like it. Chesla Wechsler: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You know, seemed, they seemed pretty well matched. I mean, he seemed pretty engaged in her conversation with her at the restaurant, don't you think? Mackenzie Malpass: Yes, yes, they do and they did a really good job delivering the baby together ⁓ for the Norwegian couple but I'm just I'm so team Louisa. I she's such a doll and this lady seems a little high maintenance, but you're right like she does have a good little little thing with Martin. I think they're both real stoic and yes, you know not not very emotive. ⁓ So yeah, I could see them. If Louisa weren't in the picture, could see Martin and the ex-girlfriend together because of their personalities. But I think Martin needs someone like Louisa to bring out his emotions, to bring out his soft side and him ⁓ ⁓ I think he's been learning how to really live now that he's in Port Wenn. ⁓ So I'd hate to see him backslide into more closed emotion with this ex-girlfriend. Yeah, it was interesting No, that's okay I was just gonna say it was interesting because at the end of the episode when he did his whole speech talking about how to the Norwegian guy like you have to Chesla Wechsler: Yeah. Yeah. You certainly get us. Go ahead, Mackenzie. I'm sorry. Mackenzie Malpass: cut up the contract, like we're not doing the salmon fishing, fishery, whatever it was. Salmon farm. Salmon farm. And Martin had this beautiful speech and it was like, you know, it's a Port Wenn thing and it was just like the first time we've really seen him actually engaging with the fact that he does actually love the town and he loves the people there. And the doctor... his ex girlfriend was like, what was that? And he was, oh, you know, couldn't really like, it's hard to understand. Or he said something like that. And Louisa was obviously like so moved by what he did. And I agree with mom that it's like, he really does come out of his shell so much when he's with Louisa, that it would be so sad to see him kind of revert back to his old ways at the beginning of the season where he was just like, so to himself, because he has opened up a lot. Even with the dog. Chesla Wechsler: Yeah, does seem, yeah, right, with Copernicus, right? Mackenzie Malpass: Yeah. Copernicus, yes, he finally admitted that Copernicus was his dog and gave him that collar. That was the last step, or two, whatever. But finally put a collar on Copernicus, gave him his name, and admitted that, yes, he has affection for this dog and it's his dog. Which is really... It was, I think that was a huge step. I agree. That was huge. That was huge. And, go ahead. Chesla Wechsler: Mm-hmm. seemed like a big step. Yeah. Now, Eden and Martin to me seem like, you know, it's easy to fall back into the old relationship and it seems to be a recurrent theme to me because, you know, Louisa, episode one, it sounds like she had a big breakup where she was very much in love with someone in New York. That broke up and she falls back into her old boyfriend who is Mark for eight years. So, you this idea of like we fall back to what's familiar seems, you know, this is the second time we've seen this in this show. Mackenzie Malpass: you Yeah, agreed. But even though, so even though it's a humor show, it's more, think, like we said, just taking characters and just kind of blowing them up a little bit, it really has very nice undercurrents of storyline that make you feel good, make you feel happy. ⁓ you know, just tying people together and showing you nice, just humanity, you know, just even though the characters are well over the top, they really come together in that sense of community and love and friendship and trust. And they just hit on a lot of notes that are just nice to watch. And it's just nice undercurrents in each episode. Yeah, definitely. Chesla Wechsler: Yeah. Yeah. Do you have a favorite to... ⁓ go ahead, Mackenzie. Sorry. Go ahead. Mackenzie Malpass: ⁓ no, just said it was definitely a feel-good show. Chesla Wechsler: Yeah, yeah. Do you have a favorite character, Jennifer? Mackenzie Malpass: Oh boy. I like them all for different reasons. I would have to say maybe Louisa. But the other ones are growing on me even more. Like Elaine in the beginning, oh she was so annoying to me. It was just the social media thing and it was just hard to connect with her. But now in this last episode... She really loves Al, she really cares for Dr. Martin and does the blood work for him and has kept his secret. You know, she's trustworthy, she kept his secret this whole time and that's a huge secret and... you know, so even though she's always trying to promote herself, there, you know, with the blood work and with, with just the townspeople, she does really care about everybody. And I think she's settling into her character now. ⁓ So I really, I am growing more of her, especially Martin's ⁓ mother ⁓ her that one episode. ⁓ You I forget what she said, but really made feel bad about herself. ⁓ I think that's when she started settling down. ⁓ So I don't know I've been growing more fond of her. But Mark... He's funny, but he, I love how he thinks Martin has been his best friend this whole time. And Martin just has thought of him as anybody else. So that's been funny. That's been funny to watch that duo together. That was a good time. What about you? Who's your favorite? Chesla Wechsler: Sure, My favorite, in this show, George the Salty Breeze. I just find him to be so sweet and he just really holds things together and he's thinking about, mean, he's a gossiper, right? He wants to know the dirt just like everybody else does, but he's just warm and cheerful. ⁓ just, I've liked George from the jump. ⁓ Mackenzie Malpass: Yes. Yeah, and how nice they got married in this last episode. I actually got a good ride. Chesla Wechsler: Yeah. Well, I mean, they... Yeah. I loved that episode. I love that they surprised him. I usually can predict a plot, and that was not predictable to me. And I loved that little warming of the rings thing. Mackenzie Malpass: Yeah, I actually while it was happening. I said to Mackenzie. Oh look at this tradition. This is fantastic. I love that and how Aunt Sarah explained how you know it's not just a ring anymore, It's a symbol of everyone's love who's here for you today. I thought how special that is. I I tucked it into the back of my mind for you know one day when my kids get married like ooh little nugget. I'm going to hold on to that one. Yeah. Chesla Wechsler: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and even if you have a big wedding, presumably you could like walk the rings up the aisle and that aisle can like, you know, because, you know, this was a small wedding, you could pass it around. I was trying to think scale. How do you scale this? So Mackenzie, is Louisa your favorite character or do you have, you know, somebody else who you think is your favorite? Mackenzie Malpass: really special. Yes. For like the warm-hearted character, I actually have to agree with you. I think George is my guy I think he is so cute. I have just like you I've liked him from the jump. Like mom I didn't love Elaine in the beginning. I thought she was a little much but she's also grown on me I feel like she's really coming into her own in regard to Just like what she wants to do with her life, even though she doesn't know what she wants to do She's like becoming more comfortable not knowing what she wants. ⁓ So I think that's really admirable. But do think Aunt Sarah is hilarious. ⁓ love the dry sense of humor she kind of brings. I feel like every time she's on the screen it's ... you know something funny is about to happen. ⁓ And she's a little bit more realistic. Like I like that it's not even though it is a feel good show. I like that she kind of brings a little bit of negativity in and like makes a little bit more realistic and you can relate to it a little bit more. Because Martin obviously has this sense of negativity that's a little bit ⁓ not relatable. I feel like a lot of people can't really grab on to how truly detached he is, but Aunt Sarah is like, she is a community girl. She's just a little crabby. And aren't we all sometimes? So I do, I think she's hilarious. Yeah. Well, I can say my least favorite character and that's Glendon, Glendon? Chesla Wechsler: Yes, yes. Mackenzie Malpass: the board member, the father of the bully kid. He's worst. I really don't like him at all. He's just mean. He's mean. Yes, yes. He's my least favorite. because now we left the cliffhanger of now Doc Martin gets the letter from the medical board and Chesla Wechsler: Yeah. Yeah. He's mean-spirited. Mackenzie Malpass: It was just so, I don't know, backhanded of Glendon to do that to him. Even though Martin is such a pillar of the community and so needed and everybody in the community needs him and trusts him, just to spite him, he's gonna go against the whole community and hurt his whole community just to prove a point to Martin. So that's annoying. Yeah. Yeah. And it's a good comparison. Chesla Wechsler: Yeah. Yeah. You have to admit though. Go ahead. Mackenzie Malpass: I was just gonna say it's a good comparison of like he is mean-spirited But aunt Sarah is just grouchy like it's a very clear difference of likes She's the person who does genuinely love her community She's just don't mess with her and then this guy is just a complete jerk like yeah, we don't like him Chesla Wechsler: And he's been a complete jerk Martin's whole life it sounds like, because if you recall earlier episodes, he bullied him as a child when they were there for the summers, when Martin was like parked with Aunt Sarah when they were grieving the loss of his sister. I mean, who is that cruel that the kid is there because he lost his sister and you're gonna bully him? Mackenzie Malpass: Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. That was awful. was. That was awful. So he's the person of the show that we just don't like. We want some kind of... Karma. Yeah, we want a little karma to come back to him at some point. little bit of karma to put him in his place. Chesla Wechsler: I absolutely get it. Now, does Michael have a favorite character? Mackenzie Malpass: he likes Martin. I was gonna say I think of all of them he thinks he's like I don't know just the most in a way relatable. Yeah for Michael. Yeah for his personality. He's most like Doc Martin so I think that he he likes Martin the best. Yeah I really I really think so. Because that's when I hear him laughing the most is when something happens with Martin and you hear him in his chair. Chesla Wechsler: ⁓ that's very good. Yeah, that's fun. That's fun. what do you, what were you surprised, Martin? Okay, what were you surprised about in the season finale? Mackenzie Malpass: So I would have to say Martin. I was surprised about the ex. That surprised me. To me that came out of nowhere that there was this ex in the picture and that now she wants Martin back. So that to me came out of nowhere. And to just go off of that, I think one of the most shocking things is that Martin was entertaining it. I feel like his relationship with Louisa, from what the show kind of puts out there, it seems like Martin is just smitten with her and to have this ex walk in and he's kind of going for it a little. I mean, obviously at the end, it's like because he was really upset that he heard Louisa and Mark talking about the baby and everything. But even before that, like he did entertain a lunch with her. ⁓ You know, it seemed like he was a little too excited that she was coming back, but we did talk about that they fall into old patterns and stuff like that. So yeah. But yeah, that shocked me personally. Yeah, no, that's ⁓ interesting. Yeah, I would have to say that that not just her coming back, but that he was interested in entertaining it. Yeah, that would be the shocker for me. Yes. Yeah. Chesla Wechsler: Yeah. Okay. Now, one question I have for you is, uh, when Robert Best and Vanessa, Martin's parents come, um, were you aware that Robert Best was played by a British actor? Mackenzie Malpass: Okay, yes. No. No. I didn't know that. Yeah, no. Not while I was watching it. Afterwards, I realized it, but not while we were watching the episode. Chesla Wechsler: Yeah. So you did not know that Martin Clunes was not only British, but he actually played Doc Martin in the original show. Mackenzie Malpass: I didn't know that. That's so funny. I didn't know it during the show. didn't know it while we were my gosh, now that's exciting to like see him when we do watch the other show. It's gonna be like, my gosh, ⁓ I that face. That's a thought. ⁓ Chesla Wechsler: Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I thought it would be an interesting question to ask because ⁓ if you don't realize he's British, if you realize he's British, I thought he pulled off an American accent extremely well. ⁓ It's not always easy. Most of the time I find British actors get tripped up by the R sound. ⁓ But I thought he'd... Mackenzie Malpass: and Chesla Wechsler: He did fine, but ⁓ I wanted to find out from people who might not know who that man was, whether they thought. Mackenzie Malpass: No, I didn't know it and listening to him, ⁓ wouldn't have known it. Somebody who didn't know he was British, you would not have known it while he was talking. Chesla Wechsler: Yeah, yeah. And I was also impressed at the ability to pull off a character who, I he defined Doc Martin. I mean, he created the character basically, and yet he could act in a show that is an adaptation of the show that he was the star of, be a completely different character. And people like me who have seen both can completely accept him as this new character. That was... rather mind blowing. Mackenzie, I wanted to ask you, since you are a Gen Z-er, ⁓ the type of content that Elaine produces, like let me just show you as I wrap rubber bands around this ball and unpack this box. mean, is there an interest for that stuff out there or is she... trying to be, know, then trying to discover something wacky that will catch someone. Because I know there's people like, you know, the little boy who unwraps presents, right? You know, like, some things have hit people, right? Do you think she's reaching or is this typical of people trying to be influencers or whatever? Mackenzie Malpass: think it's definitely a little bit of a reach. I also think because she wasn't really trying to define herself as like one. She didn't have her niche and she was trying to figure it out obviously and just posting literally a hundred different things at once to see if anything stuck ⁓ Of course, there are things like the weirdest things that you would never think would be Watchable are watchable. I last night I watched somebody dust for like two hours Yeah, they were just dusting and I was like, this is great I love a cleaning video like it's it's very funny the things that do end up catching So it's not that she was like, ⁓ you know in a position where she was just like not doing it correctly it's just she wasn't doing it in a way that ⁓ I would typically like say is the right way to go. ⁓ Chesla Wechsler: Okay, okay. So when Vanessa confronts her and says, you you're just putting more garbage on the internet, is that really what you wanna do with yourself? It sounds like she's not completely the only person doing inane things. Mackenzie Malpass: Yeah, yeah, I mean I kind of saw both perspectives honestly because I do think there's just so much Garbage on the internet that does not need to be there. It's so useless. It's just putting Stuff out there that we don't really need to be watching. It's just taking away our brain cells as we're watching it there goes one. Yeah do think that there are some really great videos out there that are educational and fascinating and you know it's a great great tool for so many different things but there are negatives to everything and you know I don't think she was honestly that wrong and I think that was the thing that kind of shoved Elaine into her trying to be okay with not knowing what coming next. So it was awful and it was so mean and it needed to be said in a very different way but... Chesla Wechsler: Yeah. Mackenzie Malpass: I think it in a way kind of worked for her in her favor. Didn't she say, yeah, she said, you think you're cute, but not as cute as you think you are. You're not that cute. She did say that. That was, ⁓ We need to go there. That's a little far. But I think she ⁓ meant in a way, obviously, that was like... Chesla Wechsler: Yeah, the radical honesty. Yes. Yes. Mackenzie Malpass: coming from a good place. I hope, I hope, maybe not at all, that's the end. Chesla Wechsler: Yeah, well, she seems to be this radical honesty person, right? That's her psychiatric or psychological philosophy. It's just... lay it out there. Mackenzie Malpass: Yeah. Yes, radical honesty. But it did, I think, help Elaine take a step back and rethink her approach to her future. And because it was after that that she decided to apply to Juilliard and get into acting. But unfortunately, she didn't get a call back. But it did allow her Chesla Wechsler: Yeah. Yeah. Mackenzie Malpass: that honesty to explore other options for her future that might be better suited for her. Even though it so mean. So mean. Terrible. But yeah. Chesla Wechsler: But the people of Port Wenn are so amazingly supportive that it makes me wonder, Elaine seems very wrapped in layers and layers and layers of undeserved self-esteem. You know, like, is she a great actress? Not really, but she thinks she's a lock for Juilliard, right? That... Mackenzie Malpass: Yes. Ha ha ha! Yes, yes, yes. Chesla Wechsler: Who knows that radical honesty might have been the only thing that would have cut through? Mackenzie Malpass: Yeah. Yeah. And that's so interesting because it's like, you know. The sense of community in Port Wenn is obviously so strong and that is one of the biggest topics of the show in general. It's just family and love and friendship. But it's like how far does it allow you to go as a person if nobody is honest with you about certain things that are very hard to hear. And that is a part of trust and a part of growing up. And you know, if she never got that and as you said, like she's not the best actress. But everybody was like, oh you're going it's not even a question like you're going to get in and that was the first time she ever heard, maybe in her life, that maybe you're not all that, maybe you need to practice. Maybe we need to get some you know coaching in blah blah blah So it was awful, but Chesla Wechsler: Yeah, right. Mackenzie Malpass: Sometimes those situations kind of kick us into gear and it's terrible but sometimes you need it sometimes you just need brutal honesty ⁓ Chesla Wechsler: Yeah. Yeah. That's right, that's right. Are there any things you would want to add before I ask you my last question? Mackenzie Malpass: I think just like the show is great. It's a lovely experience to watch it as a family. ⁓ know, times like these, especially like in my early 20s, it's so nice to have things to share with my parents and to be able to do something together. And this was an activity that we all did on Wednesday nights. That was our thing. ⁓ And if you are somebody, obviously, who's thinking about watching the show, this is your sign to do it. Because it was great. ⁓ Chesla Wechsler: And that's great, that's great. Super. Jennifer, do you have anything or that wraps it up for you? Mackenzie Malpass: I think that's it really was a feel-good fun it was a fun show to watch walking away feeling good from it yeah ⁓ gosh yes gosh yes so that's why we look forward to it so much because we knew we were gonna laugh yeah ⁓ we were going to just enjoy the episode and walk away feeling nice about it so yeah Chesla Wechsler: And we could all use that right now. Yes. Yes. So what do you hope to see in season two? Mackenzie Malpass: Ooh, I know what I wanna see. You go first. I wanna see Martin and Louisa get together. That's what I wanna see. I wanna see them admit their feelings for each other and put down all the roadblocks that they have up and move forward with their relationship. That's what I, ⁓ I know what else I want to see. I want to know why, what's her name? I want to know why got the neck brace on all the time. I want to know what happened to Martin's sister. How did she die? What happened? Like what was, ⁓ what were the details surrounding that? I'd like to know that. ⁓ What else? What do you to know about? I mean obviously as I said, I'm the hopeless romantic I am so excited to see where this takes us But I also feel bad for Mark, like I hope that they find him somebody else because good point maybe a Little empty up here, but he does have a very big heart Yes, and it's very clear that he cares so deeply for Louisa and he does care really deeply for Doc Martin as well So I think it'd be really nice to have a little love interest in his area Chesla Wechsler: Ha! Mackenzie Malpass: And then obviously Louisa and Martin getting together, rip the band-aid, like we're just, we gotta get this moving. ⁓ But that's a good point. Yes, I second that. I want that more towards the top for me is Mark getting a love interest, but a true love interest, not somebody who's gonna hurt him. Somebody who really loves him and they could really form a good bond together. Even if that means like, ha ha Louisa, you could have had me. if we do kind of... Chesla Wechsler: Okay. Mackenzie Malpass: Kick it into gear in that way. To make it funny that way. But to give him actually somebody who cares about him, Yes, he deserves it. He really loves Louisa. Yes, I agree. Yep. And that would make it easier for Louisa and Martin to get together because they wouldn't feel any guilt over hurting Mark. So I think that that... Yes, I agree. Yeah, you got the snaps for that one. Chesla Wechsler: Yeah, yeah, cool, cool. They're very good. Very good. Things I have no idea what they mean. Because I'm old. I'm not old though. I will never be old. I keep telling you I will never be old. I never be old. Yes. That's a choice. Old is... Pardon? What do I want to see happen? ⁓ I definitely want to see the explanation for what happened to Rosemary. Mackenzie Malpass: You're never old, Chessa. Never. Never. Absolutely not. But what do you want to see happen? Chessa? Yes. Chesla Wechsler: ⁓ But I want that explanation to come from Robert and Vanessa Best. I want to see them come back because I think that there's a lot of unspoken stuff between son and parents because we have that whole thing of, you know, why have we never spoken about her? Mackenzie Malpass: Okay. Yes. Yes. Chesla Wechsler: And why was he parked at Aunt Sarah's when they were grieving? I'd like to know, could they not cope with their son at the time? What happened and all that? So I'm definitely looking forward to that. ⁓ That to me is probably... Mackenzie Malpass: you Chesla Wechsler: the biggest thing that I want answered. I'd like to understand whether Al maybe goes off to college. I'd like to know that because it seemed like he was gonna do that because he was gonna follow Elaine, but if she doesn't go, he got into NYU and all these great schools. Mackenzie Malpass: Yes. Chesla Wechsler: So let's hopefully see if that's something he wants to do. He can potentially come back and be an asset to the town after he gets a degree or something, who knows. ⁓ But my main thing is I would like to see Martin's parents come back and answer the questions. Sarah has to figure out what's going to go on with her house, so they kind of have to come back. Mackenzie Malpass: That's great. That would be great. this. Yeah. that's true. That's true. They've set it up for them to have to come back. Yeah. Because of the house. You might get what you want. Chesla Wechsler: Yeah, right. Unless she just buys them out because they have sea urchins that they can sell or something. Yeah. And I'll tell you, I also have a question in my mind as to ⁓ are the Norwegians really gone? Mackenzie Malpass: Yes! ⁓ yeah. Well, I have to... Go ahead, good. Mmm Chesla Wechsler: And I ask that because just because Geneva ripped up one contract. Mackenzie Malpass: That's true. Yeah. Huh. And if they find out about the sea urchin business, they're going to be. Yes. Climb to get their hands on that. Because the Norwegians don't know about the sea urchins yet. So if they if when they will because obviously they're going to find out about it ⁓ because of. Chesla Wechsler: because there were two copies that were signed, right? So. Yeah. They didn't mention that they know about it, but they did have that drone go under the water. Mackenzie Malpass: Yeah, yes. And even if for some reason the drone didn't see the urchins because they the urchins just came out whatever, Glendon would definitely be telling them about it because he wants them there. So they're going to find out unless they just write them off for the show and be like, okay, the contract's done, But they do set that up for them to come back because of the sea urchins. Wow. Yes. Good point. shall see. Chesla Wechsler: See that? Well, I have thoroughly enjoyed this, guys. I hope you enjoyed it. I hope our viewing public enjoyed it. ⁓ Folks out in the ⁓ watching land or listening land, if you've enjoyed it, please subscribe to the feed. Please like the episode. Comment, I always respond to comments. And you guys, I hope to see you back. Thank you so much. Mackenzie Malpass: apps. Thank you. Bye everybody. Thank you.