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Navigating True North: Journeys in Self-Discovery and Professional Evolution · Mrs. PIE

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  Speaker 1: Julie Chair, tah ril, you All right, good evening.
• 2:19
  Speaker 1: We got a lot of promos because we've got a lot of stuff going on.
• 2:22
  Speaker 1: What's going on, shelley?
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, hello, peter.
• 2:29
  Speaker 2: So good to see you again.
• 2:31
  Speaker 1: Oh man, this is so like okay.
• 2:33
  Speaker 1: First of all, thank you everyone for watching.
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  Speaker 1: But I do want to say thank you for all the folks who are watching on Facebook, linkedin, youtube, twitter and especially our Parade Deck family.
• 2:56
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• 3:07
  Speaker 1: So I guess I have to stop and say hey.
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  Speaker 1: So listen, I am introducing y'all to my friend, peter, and we're going to be talking about some real life situations tonight.
• 3:19
  Speaker 1: Peter and I met in I think it's 2020, I feel like I've known you for 20 years.
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  Speaker 2: It does feel like that.
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  Speaker 1: But we just had a natural connection.
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  Speaker 1: We met on another program and we were sharing HR insights and we met some amazing people.
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  Speaker 1: But I want to, I want to read something to y'all and this is going to help you understand part of why Peter's here.
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot of us are really going to benefit from the journey that he's on so that we can get some inspiration.
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  Speaker 1: So again, thank you everybody for watching.
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  Speaker 1: Hi, sheila, how are you?
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  Speaker 1: I got to make sure I catch the comments because I'm usually terrible.
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  Speaker 1: And for those of you all who are listening, because we go on the audio podcast and within 48 hours, and those of you who are listening, come back and watch the video, see how cute my friend is, but he's married, so don't try it.
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  Speaker 1: So Peter is the CEO for a company called True Bearing.
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  Speaker 1: He's a storyteller, he's a speaker and when you ask him what he does, he leverages the power of narrative to drive change and humanize business by transforming the way we connect with talent.
• 4:26
  Speaker 1: But there's a statement that Peter put out on a post on the LinkedIn streets where you can find him, and it really stopped me in my tracks.
• 4:34
  Speaker 1: It says this I am taking a break from LinkedIn to figure out my future and advance my end goal.
• 4:42
  Speaker 1: Now, if you are on LinkedIn with as many in his community or followers as Peter has, you know that first of all, that's a risk.
• 4:51
  Speaker 1: Right, not being on LinkedIn, because now you're moving yourself from social media.
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  Speaker 1: We know how scary that is.
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  Speaker 1: Right, oh my gosh, I can't miss a date.
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  Speaker 1: We're not putting out a post.
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  Speaker 1: But the fact that you had this insightful response to what was happening and I think again a lot of us are in that mode I wanted to find out if you could share what's going on and what led you to make kind of that call.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking about purpose, values, the future of culture, all of those things.
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  Speaker 2: But I think again, this is going to help somebody else as well.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let me start with my purpose and then an event some time ago that really shook me up and has kind of been guiding my decisions for the last seven years.
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  Speaker 2: So, based on the fact that we, all of humanity, is deeply and profoundly connected to what I'm doing.
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  Speaker 2: My purpose in life is to lift those connections up so they're visible and tangible in our day-to-day lives and they're recognized as a source of insight, joy, strength and belonging.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what has driven me all my life.
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  Speaker 2: It's why I'm a storyteller, because I love those moments where I'm listening to a story, a live story, and the storyteller says something and I realize wait, that storyteller and I I've never met them before, but they're me.
• 6:13
  Speaker 2: What they have experienced is exactly what is in my heart and soul.
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  Speaker 2: And then when that happens, inevitably a few moments later I will look over and I'll see somebody else in the audience and clearly she is having that same moment.
• 6:28
  Speaker 2: And even though this is the first time I've laid eyes on the person, I know that we are also deeply connected, and so it's one of those moments where those connections are just there, so visible and tangible.
• 6:39
  Speaker 2: You can practically see them and touch them.
• 6:40
  Speaker 2: And that's really what's driven my life.
• 6:44
  Speaker 2: And I was an entrepreneur in the recruiting and staffing industry and I was pretty miserable.
• 6:48
  Speaker 2: It was, it had become a real commoditized industry, and it was my daughter was this summer, before she was going to school.
• 6:56
  Speaker 2: It was my birthday weekend and I, before she was going to high school.
• 7:01
  Speaker 2: And I'm driving her to spend the weekend with a friend in New Jersey and we're crossing the Verrazano Bridge and she says you know, dad, I'm working really hard for to prepare for a future and I have these amazing teachers, some of the best teachers in New York City, who are preparing me for that and I'm, I'm, really excited.
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  Speaker 1: And it's one of the most that I do?
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  Speaker 1: She's saying I think it's I think.
• 7:35
  Speaker 1: I lost your audio.
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  Speaker 1: There we go, get your back.
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  Speaker 2: Well, how could I continue working to support a quality of life or standard of life when my daughter didn't believe she had a future?
• 7:49
  Speaker 2: And it really set me in a tailspin.
• 7:52
  Speaker 2: And I figured out.
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  Speaker 2: I had a staffing company I had at that point.
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  Speaker 2: I had an investor, but it was focused on management consulting firms and me and my partner.
• 8:05
  Speaker 2: Just that was a crisis of purpose for me.
• 8:08
  Speaker 2: It was a crisis of purpose for her.
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  Speaker 2: She was having one for different reasons and we stopped and we said, okay, what are we doing?
• 8:14
  Speaker 2: And we came up with the idea to work toward creating a platform for independent consultants and that was not like Fiverr, where the platform is at the center, but a platform where the consultants at the center really, really empowering people.
• 8:31
  Speaker 2: And we got really excited about that and we needed we weren't going to raise money, but we were going to fund it with what we were with that existing staffing company.
• 8:40
  Speaker 2: And that was the idea.
• 8:41
  Speaker 2: And the problem was is we both really hated running that staffing company.
• 8:47
  Speaker 2: We were working really hard building a business we didn't like so we could build a business we liked.
• 8:52
  Speaker 2: And we sold that company in 2020, not for a tremendous amount, but we were done at that point and I started this true bearing with the idea of helping working at the intersection of purpose and culture and storytelling, to fix what's broken about recruiting and because I could put what I really wanted to do was really work on cultural and structural transformations to flatten hierarchies and to make work more appealing to the people who work there so they have more agency in what they do.
• 9:29
  Speaker 2: But, more importantly, I know that the time we're entering is going to be the most disruptive period of time in human history and I know that the hierarchical structures that run our organizations are not capable of surviving the change that we're about to face.
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: And so here I am doing the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: I am starting a business in recruiting so that I can do what I really wanted to do, and I was having some decent success.
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: But it was moving a lot slower and I was so nervous all the time In college not a lot of money coming in, a lot of money going out and I wasn't really excited about it.
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: But whenever I did work in this other area, I got really excited and I came up with the idea of a talk, and it's really the story of the.
• 10:28
  Speaker 2: I'm not really the king.
• 10:30
  Speaker 2: I have a dream speech, which I think is probably one of the greatest stories, and I realized I can't continue to work on something I don't want to do anymore.
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: I just couldn't do it.
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: And the LinkedIn thing was interesting because I was spending so much energy trying to prove something on LinkedIn.
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: You know like just oh, look at me, I'm smart, you want to hire me, and yeah, and it was just a drag and I just it just started, it just started to get so painful and I realized, no, this is the time.
• 11:06
  Speaker 2: So I sold my house and I'm going to take the year and I'm going to work.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to spend the time working on that, the first six, seven months working on that talk and then perfecting it and delivering it for the final year and ready to go out and with the idea that I'll build a consulting firm on the back of that speaking practice.
• 11:25
  Speaker 2: But it was.
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  Speaker 2: It was a transformative decision and a really great one, yeah.
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: I think again.
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of folks are really going to appreciate your transparency and your honesty.
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: There are a lot of folks again on LinkedIn, especially on LinkedIn, where, where they are, it's very performative, A lot of people are, you know, they're posting their best selves at that one event, that they did that one time and, and it is exhausting, and so you know, I wanted to get your, your take for you to make that kind of decision.
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: Were there any?
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: Were you at any time?
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: Were you fearful about it or did you feel like you know?
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: No, I've really I've considered the risk, like how do you, you know, what kind of advice can you give to someone who might be, you know kind of where you were trying to get to the next?
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: You know that next step, like you know, I really do need to pull back and assess where I'm going.
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: Was I fearful?
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: Yes, am I fearful?
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: Yes, all the time, yeah, and so I think it was.
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: It just a lot of it was just the logical conclusion.
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: Now, I am a diehard Brooklyn guy.
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: When, when, you know, when we, when I got married, I told my wife like I'm never leaving Brooklyn, so you want in on this deal, you got to be comfortable with it and you know, my, my father-in-law grew up in Brooklyn, you know, in the 50s, yeah, it was a very different Brooklyn.
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: You know that he grew up in.
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: And when we bought our house he said he called me up and said, peter, I spent my whole goddamn life trying to get out of Brooklyn.
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: Now you're bringing my baby girl back there, yeah, but my, my wife has not been enjoying it and just for the last couple of years she's been saying like I think I want to leave Brooklyn.
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: And I was like remember the deal, Like nah, and you know, and then my daughter, you know just particularly, she's 20, she'll be 21 in 24 days, which is wow.
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: Not that I'm counting or anything, but she kind of indicated and I mean you could understand, you know, her junior and senior year pandemic stuck in this house.
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: She doesn't have a lot of happy memories here, yeah, so and and she feels that when she comes back and so she's been talking about not coming back and we have a lot of space here and you know it's and and then I started realizing I wasn't really enjoying Brooklyn and and then and then we realized leaving just solved a lot of problems, and I got really excited about it, shelly, I'm watching gardening videos on YouTube and we just realized that it's this is time.
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: You know, we we we've built some equity in the house and it'll give us some breathing room, and I've really wanted to be a nature for a long time now and have more of my life that way.
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: But also I have a view into what's coming with work and technology and how that's going to change, and I think you know when I am and when I see those changes playing out over the next couple of years, the way we are going to work is going to be unimaginable and I want a life that's going to fit in with that work style and make me happy.
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: You know, during that that change and so you know, being being outside a lot more is a big part of it Now, I love that.
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  Speaker 1: you know something that you know in January I had a series on, and so Thursday mornings I, you know, leave the career series, and the entire month of January was around planning out.
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  Speaker 1: So the first, the first session was around vision and planning.
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  Speaker 1: And I was talking to folks about putting yourself in a position where you're.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: You know I call the lean back lean back and assess your situation.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: Before you know they went out and did all those beautiful vision reports with their you know what, what trip you're going to take and what shoes you're going to buy and where you're going to live and all that.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: But it sounds like you did something very similar where you you took that time to assess everything.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: You know where you want to go and the goals you want to meet before you started to make even that decision.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: And I wonder if, if you could also give some insight to those people who maybe there's someone who's at that point right now where they're trying to make the decision.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: And you know one thing we talked about right now this is the season, this is I call it layoff season, and this is when a lot of companies announced layoffs and so there are going to be a lot of people impacted in that way.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: So some people are almost you know, they're almost forced into that that their purpose, because the situation has changed.
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  Speaker 1: But for those who are kind of on the on the fence and they're not sure how to make that, what kind of tips can you share with this basic assessment of where you are and where you want to get?
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: to.
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad you mentioned your prayer work, because I think faith has a lot to do with it.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I do believe that the divine wants us to be happy.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and one of the things that I one of the saying since it's a Buddhist saying, but it works really well with me is life is suffering and suffering is the results of holding on to things that do not last.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: Wow, and I read that probably 15 years ago in a novel about the Vietnam War and I've never forgotten it and it's guided me.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because when I feel suffering, I just have to really look at what I'm holding on to that's no longer relevant or true and let it go.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: And that, in the beginning, was really easy.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: It was, yeah, but then in the last five years it became incredibly hard, because the things that I were holding on to were things like my concept of self and my very idea of of who I am supposed to be, my dreams, yeah, and I that was, and so I was, I was.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: They're going through this period of time of suffering where, yeah, where the growing a business that I didn't really want was becoming increasingly difficult, and not only from what I was doing was very new and it had been not been done before, and I was looking to dramatically change the model of recruiting to one of storytelling rather than advertising and and using stories about purpose and culture to attract people who want those things.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: But you know, it was just moving so slowly and it was really painful and I was really nervous about money and it, and so it's this.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Recognition like this is suffering this is.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: This is something that I'm holding on to and when I realized selling my house solves a lot of problems.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't want my daughter to be terribly in debt for college.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: You know I haven't been enjoying New York and I realized that the dreams that I had, you know, like we wanted to take over the whole building and and have a house in the country, and but those are very, very big dreams that aren't really relevant anymore.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: You know, and the truth of the matter is is I don't like the only.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: I set that dream because I wanted to be in nature and I thought I had to be in New York City for my work.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: And and so the dream, you know, so it was, but it was really letting go of my dream and then myself of, like I'm from Brooklyn, like that's like yeah, the identity yeah, I had you know,
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: I had brunch with my friend Roxanne, who I've known since I was seven.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: You know I had.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Before we spoke, I spoke to my friend Andy, who I've known since I was 14.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: You know so much of my life is around this neighborhood.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got cousins around the corner, so letting go of that was was a really big thing.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: So the advice I would have is is look at where there is friction, look at where they're suffering and and, and.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: That is a good indication of of where you might need to let things go, and and for me it was that and yeah.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: And also, I don't think, I don't, I don't think the divine wants me to create a better recruiting system.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and you know I've, I've always been taken care of.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: There's never there's been times where I've been like I don't know, I'm going to get through this plenty of times, and it's always worked out, and so why not now?
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Now, wow, yeah.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Wow, why not now?
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: I'm so again.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: I'm so, I'm so beyond myself right now, because again I'm in the same space where I'm just I'm just going.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm kind of going with the flow, and I think you know something I tell people all the time is having the eye for opportunity.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Like you've got to know how to seize opportunity, but a lot of people don't know what opportunity looks like it, you know, sometimes it's just like a very ugly problem that needs to be solved and I'm crazy enough to say, hey, I spot a problem, I've got to solve that Right.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: So, the eye for the future and what's coming, as well as your, as you're thinking about what's coming down the pike and how we work, you know, with whatever is coming down the pike in business or in culture and all those things, is there advice that you can share or tell us, like, how are you preparing for that or are you, are you know?
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: What are you doing in terms of that?
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Well, let's talk a little bit about what I see coming down the pike.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: So I think when we look at technological changes that have dramatically shifted our society and the world so the locomotive, the telegraph, the locomotive, the electric light, the telephone, the automobile, the internet all of these things had a marked impact on our society, and I don't know if any of your listeners remember the days before the internet.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: But and if you stop and think like how did I drive to a place that I didn't know with how the internet like how did I manage to meet people?
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: you know, for plans like it's just mind-boggling, but you know, and so these, these inventions have dramatically changed the world as we know it and some of us have experienced those changes.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Now we see generative AI and it is just the beginning of the curve and we already know.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Some of us have it like on our PowerPoint and something that took us all day long is now taking us 15 minutes.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: And so, but it's just the beginning, but it's not the only thing that's changing.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: So I mean, if we look at the that, what tech, transformative technologies, are coming.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: We've got generative AI, we've got quantum computing, we've got, you know, our genetic work in CRISPR.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we have, you know, we have 3D printing, we have robotics.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: You know that we have a dramatic innovations in energy.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's a think tank that I follow pretty regularly and they predicted in 2012, that by 2023, there'd be a car electric car that could go 300 kilometers, you know, and cost less than $17,000 or less.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Well, sure enough, it happened, yeah, yeah, now, last year, in 2023.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: And they predicted that there will be no more combustion engines made in 2030.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Like, they're clear on this, and they're they, and they just had to revise their prediction because they said that battery storage, the price of solar and battery storage would be reach a certain point where it was dramatically cheaper than fossil fuels in 2026.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: But it's already happened, yeah.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: So we're, we're, we're, we're and we're going to see this just dramatic change.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: And so one of the things that I'm really clear is that companies as we know them will not exist the way we think they'll exist, and I don't know how they'll exist, but I know it's not going to be how they'll happen.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: And because a small group of mostly men at the top of an organization cannot see all of the threats and opportunities that surround them.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: And we manage by because they're big and they have.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: They see enough.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: But now that's going to go on steroids.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: There will be so many opportunities coming at them at every moment and so many threats coming at them at every moment that that small group of people who has bad vision about what's happening on the ground won't be able to manage it, and so we'll need to evolve into organizations that are more network based.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: And you know, let's remember that this hierarchical structure that we created thousands of years ago.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: What was created?
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: So you know?
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: illiterate, uneducated peasants didn't mess up farming and starve the whole community.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: That's why we did it.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: We are not working with illiterate, you know, ignorant peasants.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: We all of us in our pocket have access to the entire compendium of human knowledge.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're all.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and I don't care if you're educated or not educated.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: We're smart people and we understand our jobs and we understand the impacts of what's happening around us.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: And if people aren't listening to that and they can't have a way of extracting those insights and recognizing their importance and acting on them you know, instantaneous then those organizations aren't going to survive.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pal, but I think that's also motivation when I think about just continuous learning.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: And for me, I mean I, I, I, I I popped into the AI scene but I was encouraged by Peter and I was very hesitant and I have not, I have not looked back, and so it's.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: It's, you know, for those, for those of us who are, I call us, the over 50 crowd, who are, you know, concerned about AI or worried about it, I think this is, this is an opportunity, especially if you're still in, if you're still in the working space, right, or if you own a business, or or you don't.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: You know you really need to get a good understanding of using the technology to help improve your business, improve your productivity, save time, save money, reach your clients, understand your audience, all those things.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: But I love that point about the change in the hierarchy of decision making within the organization.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: So those days where it's just the select few and the information kind of gets fed, you know, fed up, you know the upstream, somehow, even that, don't you think that will change as well the way that you know the work groups communicate?
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's really interesting.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: So I actually what I?
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: So I think there's a lot of outcomes that are possible.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: There's the, you know there's, you know there's the outcome where people like Elon Musk have all the power, money, and I don't think that's going to happen.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: I think what I actually think and and it's interesting that you're talking about the layup season and all these people who, who are like maybe it's time for me to go out on my own and do my own thing and I think, and I think that's there's.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: I'm getting blurry on it.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: There we go, the.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: I think that technology will enable in people independently to then very, very quickly come together, work on a project and then reconfigure as that project changes and shifts.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: The needs of that project shift over time and, and I think, and I think the corporation will be more project based and more temporary.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: So I think it will be like oh, there's an opportunity to do X and there might be a poor people who are seeing those opportunities on the regular, but they'll have other smaller companies or independence.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Join them for a period of time for the section of doing that project that's appropriate and they'll split off and I think you know, I mean, we've got all the crypto bros who gave blockchain a bad bad name and they certainly did.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: But the truth of the matter is is you know, that area of trust if you and I were to work on a contract and and we're agreeing to work on future income well, who owns the bank account?
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, like all these questions like like, if I'm doing work now and we're not going to get paid for another three months, how do I know you're going to give me my money?
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Well blockchain handles all of that Like we can create contracts that are in the background, you know, check those in the bank, you get your money and I get my money, and our vendors get paid and that's the end of the story.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: And so we'll have this ability to very, very quickly come together and split apart.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: And so I think that that the future that we are moving toward is highly decentralized.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: That's what I think and that's what I'm hoping for, because that's a world where people are empowered, yeah, where I mean and I think, the idea of you know, there are people out there I've heard of them who are trying doing the same thing for their entire lives.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: I'm not one of them, but we're entering into a phase where that's just going to be impossible.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Change is going to be so fast that we will need to be adaptive in what we do.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: So that's that's where I think it's going and, I think, some real power in creating those tools that allow people to really seamlessly work together.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: You know, on a project, split apart and join other groups and move.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: But that's what I think that the future is like.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: That is great.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: That is so good information.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Again, I think that is that is really encouraging expression for those.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: And maybe you, maybe you are that person who believes you know I'm going to stay in this job for 20, 30, 40 years.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Even even if that's the stake, you still have to adapt to the change because that job itself, the responsibility of the roles you know, the projects change and all that.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: So you do have to put yourself in that position.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: So, we're down to our 30 minutes.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Is there anything that we we missed, that you wanted to say?
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: I think I just cut you off.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Well, there's just one thing I don't think that there is anything wrong with wanting to work one job, your entire life yeah, yeah but what I do know is that the companies don't have that same respect for us.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah and so, yeah.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: So I don't want to disparage the desire, but the reality is it's a contract and it's one that has not been honored.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's true.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: And so we are liberated from that obligation, and I think there are certain organizations that really don't view that way and they really do honestly care for their people, and if you're lucky enough to be part of those, yeah, hold on to that.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: But, and I think those are the ones that will survive, particularly if their connection with people really requires them to listen.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Now, Good point.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Is there anything else that you wanted to share that you didn't get to say I want to make sure I get.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: I get all my Peter isms out.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Well, how much time do we have?
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Just so I yeah.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: We got a few more minutes.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, no, I think that's really it.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: I can't get the rest of me I can.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Well, I am one of the things, and we were talking a little bit before we went live.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: But what I am, yeah, and I think, yeah, one of the things I'm really excited about of that, yeah, adaptive future that we're moving toward is we have really great examples from our past yeah of that adaptive future, and so, yeah, and that's I think what I'm really most excited for is when we look at really big movements whether it be you know the civil rights movement here, or the anti-colonial movement in India, or you know what's yeah, what has happened in Eastern Europe and the Middle East you know they are movements of people coming together and really listening.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: They're not structured in one leader saying this is the way it's gonna go, and I think that that's what companies are gonna need to take on, and that's really what I'm spending the next year working on is how do I tell that story in a way that inspires people to action?
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: And when I mean people, I mean CEOs, yeah.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: And we're looking forward to hearing those, those actually the outcomes from that, because we know we're ripples and you know, again, I encourage you guys to still, you can find Peter on LinkedIn.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: I still encourage you to reach out and read his information.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: There's a ton of just free information.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: If you're trying to just personally develop yourself or professionally develop yourself, you literally I go through Peter's post just to keep myself aware of what's happening, you know, regardless of the industry.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: But because I'm interested in what's coming down the pike and I always wanna keep learning, I'm following Peter.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: So you can find Peter on LinkedIn.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: I'm so grateful that you are here.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for, again, for the courage of talking about the change that you're making and for being honest and transparent, and for everyone who is watching.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Again, I hope that this really helps you, inspire you to make that call, make that decision at least, maybe think about some of the tips and insights that Peter share, and I wish you all the best.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: I'll be tracking you, stalking you, like I normally do.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Anyway, I'm just excited for you.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: You won't be stalking me.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: I'd spread the opposite charge.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: I'd be trending off.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: I love this so much.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: So we'll hang out in the back room for a minute.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: We'll tell everybody good night.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Good night everybody on the Fridaek Live TV and all the other channels.
• 34:35
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• 34:43
  Speaker 1: So we thank you so much for listening also, as well as those who are watching us.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: All right, take care everybody.