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- 0:29I Hate Talking: Episode 10, double digits.
- 0:32I Hate Talking: Woohoo! So I have heard that some podcasts don't make it past the 1st 5 episodes.
- 0:40I Hate Talking: Oh, so sad.
- 0:43I Hate Talking: So we have officially arrived at our, I guess 6th episode if you consider our 1st 5 as sort of a bundle deal, all released on the same day, and this will now be our 10th episode, but really when you think about it, our 6th time sitting down and focusing on what we are going to talk about.
- 1:06I Hate Talking: Hey, congrats to us and congrats to y'all listening.
- 1:09I Hate Talking: And as part of the topic today, we're gonna be talking about our origin story of our podcast.
- 1:18I Hate Talking: Oh, I love that.
- 1:19I Hate Talking: But before we do, we have our word or phrase of the episode, and today's word or phrase of the episode is Genesis.
- 1:30I Hate Talking: Genesis.
- 1:32I Hate Talking: So this is an interesting word.
- 1:34I Hate Talking: It has a very deep history within the etymology.
- 1:38I Hate Talking: It has both Greek and Latin roots as well as the Hebrew root word, uh, that maybe some are familiar with as the book of the Bible, the first book of the Bible, which is the Book of Genesis or in Hebrew, Berisheth.
- 1:56I Hate Talking: Interesting.
- 1:59I Hate Talking: So it has parts of all of those languages or each language uses the same word?
- 2:04I Hate Talking: So in the case of the Latin and Greek, it is sort of similar to the word that we discussed a few episodes in the past.
- 2:13I Hate Talking: Malady where the French are borrowing from the English and the English are borrowing from the French.
- 2:20I Hate Talking: Similarly, the original word came from the Latin Genesis, which means generation or nativity or in other words being born, and then the Greek took that and use the same word Genesis, which they used as meaning origin, creation or generation.
- 2:40I Hate Talking: And they also had another word separately from that that meant to be born, but it was related to the word Genesis, but both of those words because they are interrelated in Latin and Greek, ultimately have their genesis in the Hebrew word besheth in terms of the definition that is used.
- 3:01I Hate Talking: I love that.
- 3:02I Hate Talking: That is so cool.
- 3:03I Hate Talking: So, in other words, we are going to be talking today in part about the genesis of this podcast.
- 3:12I Hate Talking: Oh, I love that.
- 3:14I Hate Talking: So how did this podcast come to be?
- 3:19I Hate Talking: OK, and you might have a slightly different recollection.
- 3:24I Hate Talking: Um, I really like my story, so I'm gonna stick with it.
- 3:29I Hate Talking: One night, a couple months back, um, we were just chit chatting, and we had a couple of weeks prior leading up to this, and, um, doing some studies with ourselves and like having really good discussions and um after the kids went to bed.
- 3:48I Hate Talking: And I really enjoyed those moments where we could just stop and talk.
- 3:53I Hate Talking: And so I listened to quite a few podcasts that are couples, and I really like their banter or I really like how they interact with one another.
- 4:05I Hate Talking: So I told you, hey, think about this.
- 4:09I Hate Talking: And again, we talked about this in the other episodes about like, how I have to throw something out there, think about it, come back to this in the future.
- 4:18I Hate Talking: So that's how I approached the subject, like, think about this.
- 4:21I Hate Talking: What if we started a podcast?
- 4:24I Hate Talking: It doesn't have to be anything big.
- 4:26I Hate Talking: We never even have to publish it.
- 4:28I Hate Talking: It could just be something you and I do that we're intentionally talking about each other or talking about something.
- 4:37I Hate Talking: Instead of just putting the kids to bed, turning on Netflix, and then falling asleep, which is the habit we've gotten into recently.
- 4:46I Hate Talking: So that's how I left that.
- 4:48I Hate Talking: And then, do you remember what you said the second I stopped talking?
- 4:52I Hate Talking: I think I said something to the effect of today I actually thought of the same thing.
- 4:58I Hate Talking: And I was like, what?
- 5:00I Hate Talking: That's crazy.
- 5:01I Hate Talking: And then you said, yeah, and the name of the podcast is, -- I hate -- talking.
- 5:08I Hate Talking: And it's just it was so weird that you thought about it that specific day that I brought it up.
- 5:14I Hate Talking: And then we're like, well, now we have to do it.
- 5:17I Hate Talking: And so then we started, um, you already had a name and everything.
- 5:22I Hate Talking: So we started um parsing out ideas and moved forward since then.
- 5:27I Hate Talking: And I believe that uh at that time, I had already been thinking about it as I typically do.
- 5:34I Hate Talking: I was thinking about these things before I voiced the idea.
- 5:39I Hate Talking: So I believe at that time I had already Come to the idea on what our song would be for our intro and outro.
- 5:48I Hate Talking: I had already come up with a name.
- 5:51I Hate Talking: I think I had already come up at least with the concept art.
- 5:54I Hate Talking: I don't know if I had finished the artwork yet, but I had at least the idea of what I wanted it to look like.
- 6:00I Hate Talking: So it is super random that You had already had all this planned in your head.
- 6:08I Hate Talking: And when were you planning on presenting this idea to me?
- 6:13I Hate Talking: I still had not finished coming to all the conclusions.
- 6:18I Hate Talking: Uh, I think I would have wanted to have the artwork finished and the song selected and maybe a little bit more of the topics, but because you had brought this idea up, I was sort of uh forced to share what my ideas were so far.
- 6:35I Hate Talking: Uh, so you forced my hand in a way.
- 6:37I Hate Talking: That I was sharing what uh some of my ideas were but had not fully come to the formation of those things.
- 6:46I Hate Talking: And I literally thought of it that morning when I was listening to a podcast couple and thought, oh, they sound like fun.
- 6:55I Hate Talking: I wish they live local, I'd want to be their friends.
- 6:58I Hate Talking: Indeed, and I don't think I have been a podcast person, uh, even a consumer of podcast content for very long.
- 7:08I Hate Talking: However, over the last few years, it has become more of a mode of knowledge that I have partaken in, and I think that does harken back to some of the things that we talked about and Um, but I believe just a few episodes ago where we are talking about the visual versus the auditory consumption of the written language because maybe up to this point I'd listened to a little bit of Joe Rogan, uh, I think probably the most famous podcaster out there, not necessarily, uh, all his content safe for work, but there is the occasional episode out there that is, uh, insightful and um.
- 7:50I Hate Talking: I think that uh there's a number of other podcasts that have uh become part of my normal routine, uh, such as Theocast or Blurry creatures or Weaponized, those are some of the ones that I listen to, uh, at this time, uh, in terms of just other podcasts that I listen to and Previously to that, not as much recently, but, uh, Julia LaRoche and uh Heresy Financial in the financial market world because that has been one of my hobbies in the past, um, so those are are some other ones that are out there that again have sort of, uh, I think.
- 8:30I Hate Talking: Come to the conclusion that uh podcasts can be valuable and a valid source of gaining knowledge and insight.
- 8:39I Hate Talking: Yeah, and um like you were saying, some might not be work appropriate.
- 8:44I Hate Talking: Sometimes some of the podcasts I listen to, I have earbuds in.
- 8:48I Hate Talking: Um, While I'm doing household chores or driving or whatnot.
- 8:54I Hate Talking: So that way I can listen and maybe other people around me don't hear it.
- 8:59I Hate Talking: But I laughed when you mentioned Heresy Financial cause our kids quote them sometimes.
- 9:05I Hate Talking: Radio is still very much a thing, I understand, but I feel like podcasts, um, streaming is now becoming, um, obviously was something that we didn't have when we were kids.
- 9:17I Hate Talking: And when I grew up, I listened to my father's radio, while we were driving, he had talk radio.
- 9:25I Hate Talking: And I listen to talk radio also up until Well, I got internet on my phone.
- 9:33I Hate Talking: I was pretty late to get internet on my phone, maybe 2016.
- 9:39I Hate Talking: And and even then with the internet on your phone, you would listen to an AM station streaming.
- 9:45I Hate Talking: Because I was committed to these AM talk radio people that I grew up with and continued to.
- 9:52I Hate Talking: So just cracks me up on our kids quote Heresy Financial because I I feel like I could quote Bill Handel or people like that, that my dad listened to.
- 10:03I Hate Talking: Indeed.
- 10:04I Hate Talking: So, and I think another Particularly strong consideration that made me uh want to do this.
- 10:13I Hate Talking: In addition to considering that podcasts are a valid way to learn things and get more insights into what one is experiencing or knowledge in terms of what one can be successful at, uh, in addition to, you know, the books that you may read or the books that you may listen to.
- 10:35I Hate Talking: Or the lectures that you may attend, uh, that this is a significant way of doing that, that personally, I think for both of us, we have a desire to be producers.
- 10:50I Hate Talking: Of good content rather than strictly and explicitly consumers of content.
- 10:58I Hate Talking: Yeah, um, whether it's on a podcast or just in life.
- 11:03I Hate Talking: I think that life is very short, our days are very short.
- 11:08I Hate Talking: Why are we doing what we're doing?
- 11:12I Hate Talking: Why are we listening to what we're listening to?
- 11:14I Hate Talking: Whatever we're using, I feel like needs to Improve, whether it's just like, hey, that just makes me happy, and that's OK too.
- 11:23I Hate Talking: Everything doesn't have to be such a hierarchy of, I am now a better person.
- 11:29I Hate Talking: It could be that gave me a smile on my face.
- 11:31I Hate Talking: But our times are limited and I want to be able to, while I'm here on this earth.
- 11:36I Hate Talking: Um, provide some kind of smile or helpfulness to others.
- 11:43I Hate Talking: Indeed, and that is part of the reason that we have selected certain aspects of our show with etymology as well as discussing some of these topics that are perhaps avoided or hated or just hard to talk about.
- 11:59I Hate Talking: Uh, obviously we've touched on some of those things with just the human psyche and how people interact with one another that hopefully there are some insights that our listeners can glean from that.
- 12:09I Hate Talking: That can make their lives either a little bit better or a little bit more cheerful.
- 12:15I Hate Talking: Yeah, I think so, and I hope so.
- 12:18I Hate Talking: That's the plan going forward.
- 12:20I Hate Talking: So from there, we had some ideas, we developed our artwork, we developed our a number of topics that we have in the queue, uh, we developed our launch plan.
- 12:35I Hate Talking: And then we also did a lot of research on equipment, which uh there's a lot of different options out there, as well as different software, which there is even more software than there is equipment out there to be able to do these things, uh but I think we've arrived at a pretty good spot for what our budget allowed versus what we wanted to accomplish.
- 12:58I Hate Talking: Yeah, and I think it's been fun and I think it's been a really cool thing that we can do together.
- 13:04I Hate Talking: In a super dark thought I've had in the future is like, well, No matter what, at least you and I are having fun, and our kids will be able to hear our voices when we die.
- 13:16I Hate Talking: And as long as the the cloud endures, he will be out there for as long as that is.
- 13:24I Hate Talking: Yes.
- 13:26I Hate Talking: My, um, just today, one of our episodes dropped, and our oldest son, he's uh super sweet about it.
- 13:35I Hate Talking: He's very excited and he was telling me that he listened to it right when it dropped.
- 13:40I Hate Talking: And um then he's like, and Papa listens too.
- 13:45I Hate Talking: He's like, Mom, isn't that awesome?
- 13:47I Hate Talking: Your dad and your kid are your biggest fans.
- 13:50I Hate Talking: Yeah, full circle, I love it.
- 13:54I Hate Talking: Well, there you have it.
- 13:56I Hate Talking: So, and I think that uh perhaps there are a number of things that those kids look to in their parents for, you know, perhaps notes or stories or things that they have told them, uh, that has been passed down verbally for millennia, and this is just the latest evolution perhaps in how that occurs.
- 14:20I Hate Talking: Yeah, um.
- 14:22I Hate Talking: If this is not too far off topic, your grandfather was an amazing man.
- 14:27I Hate Talking: I um I'm very grateful to have known him before he passed.
- 14:32I Hate Talking: He was a war veteran.
- 14:35I Hate Talking: And one of our children are named after him, and we um Before he passed, I told him I wanted him to tell me his, some of his stories.
- 14:46I Hate Talking: And he was, he's very um humble and didn't want to make a big deal about it.
- 14:51I Hate Talking: But when I asked him, please, like, if I record this.
- 14:55I Hate Talking: I would love for my kids to know.
- 14:58I Hate Talking: You know, who you were and what you did.
- 15:01I Hate Talking: And that I was able to convince him by just joking and saying, or you have to live until they're old enough to remember your stories.
- 15:10I Hate Talking: And he quickly was like, get the camera cause I don't want to live that long.
- 15:14I Hate Talking: And so, um, It's really cool that we have his stories.
- 15:19I Hate Talking: Of our child who's named after him.
- 15:23I Hate Talking: And it is really cool technology nowadays, that we do have these stories um that we can share.
- 15:30I Hate Talking: Versus um In the past, it was orally passed down.
- 15:37I Hate Talking: And the hearer would listen, and then they would share it orally, and it would continue on that way, which has worked for since the beginning of time, but it is really cool nowadays that we have this technology that pauses everything for a moment.
- 15:54I Hate Talking: Indeed, and I think we've come full circle maybe a few times because we've had that oral tradition in the past, and then we had the written language and perhaps some of those oral traditions were written down, maybe even in the book of Genesis and then now we are once again speaking these stories to one another and recording it into the cloud for others to listen to and Right now and in the near future, there will be an artificial intelligence that can transcribe what we are saying in the written word and therefore we are at least a few times around the loop.
- 16:36I Hate Talking: Oh, that blows my mind.
- 16:38I Hate Talking: That's a lot to think about.
- 16:39I Hate Talking: Indeed, but I think it does again stress the point that whether you are talking or writing and whether you are listening or reading, it is through these conversations in whatever form that we continue the journey to understanding.
- 17:01I Hate Talking: So in regards to that and to build off some of the things that we've talked about in just the last 1 or 2, maybe 3 episodes in terms of the verbal processor versus the non-verbal processor, as well as some of the things that we've discussed just with listening versus reading, what are your thoughts about the visual learner versus the audio learner?
- 17:27I Hate Talking: Hm, OK.
- 17:29I Hate Talking: I do think that um It's a whole another facet of it.
- 17:34I Hate Talking: Um, Hm.
- 17:37I Hate Talking: No, or perhaps to ask it another way, do you associate.
- 17:43I Hate Talking: More strongly with one or the other.
- 17:47I Hate Talking: Yes, so.
- 17:49I Hate Talking: I don't know personally which one I am.
- 17:54I Hate Talking: Um, I read studies, heard people talk.
- 17:58I Hate Talking: I actually think I'm both.
- 18:00I Hate Talking: And the reason why is because When I am reading something or listening, I can remember it, but if I am physically hearing.
- 18:13I Hate Talking: Something and following a lawn.
- 18:18I Hate Talking: It's infinitely like Solidified in my brain better, even if I speak it out loud, which makes me start to think, oh, I must be auditory because I'm speaking it versus just silently reading.
- 18:32I Hate Talking: Also, when I think back to like when I used to be in lectures.
- 18:37I Hate Talking: At a test, I'd be like, oh.
- 18:40I Hate Talking: The professor, I know this answer because the professor is wearing a blue tie with purple stripes.
- 18:47I Hate Talking: And he said, blah blah blah.
- 18:50I Hate Talking: So I go back and forth I'm like, well, that's visual.
- 18:54I Hate Talking: So I do not know which one I am.
- 18:57I Hate Talking: I think I'm both, but which would you think you are?
- 19:01I Hate Talking: Or which one am I wrong on who I am?
- 19:03I Hate Talking: So definitely studies have shown, just like what we were talking about with the use of audiobooks versus reading a book, that the retention is extremely far and above.
- 19:19I Hate Talking: One another if you do both.
- 19:21I Hate Talking: So if you are listening to a book being read and at the same time reading those exact words with your eyes that you will retain that far and above if you just do one or the other.
- 19:35I Hate Talking: And I think that does go a little bit back to the distraction theory that we were talking about that if you are reading with your eyes and listening with your ears that you have far less distractions because you're using more of your senses to intake what is being communicated.
- 19:53I Hate Talking: That being said, I would think that I would personally be more associated to the visual learner where I am going to be retaining knowledge better or at least in some ways being able to intake information more quickly if I am visually looking at it and reading it.
- 20:15I Hate Talking: Hm, yeah.
- 20:16I Hate Talking: OK, that makes sense.
- 20:18I Hate Talking: And um as you're talking about distractions.
- 20:21I Hate Talking: Just a call back, you don't know this, that one of our kids heard us discussing a couple of weeks ago about whether you can read something and listen at the same time, read something else, and listen.
- 20:37I Hate Talking: Now, he has taken it upon himself to believe that he has this ability that you have.
- 20:43I Hate Talking: And during school, if I try to get him to stop.
- 20:47I Hate Talking: And listen to what I'm reading, he'll say, I can read this and listen to you still.
- 20:53I Hate Talking: But yesterday, I asked him, what did I just read?
- 20:58I Hate Talking: He told me about um 55, 60% of what I said.
- 21:03I Hate Talking: And there you have it, 55 to 60% is usually enough to fake it.
- 21:10I Hate Talking: So, yes.
- 21:12I Hate Talking: So he was able, if I had just hadn't pushed him further, he would have looked like he was listening enough, but I continued to push.
- 21:20I Hate Talking: And I know his abilities, so I knew he was, um, -- half tuning me -- out.
- 21:26I Hate Talking: The other thing that I think perhaps gives me more association with the visual learner is again the speed at which I can intake the information because when someone is talking and even when we're talking right now.
- 21:45I Hate Talking: In most cases, I will be able to read faster than the normal person will talk or what is socially acceptable in terms of the speed for talking and some may even say that our podcast is maybe a little bit too fast compared to some other podcasts that are out there in terms of the speed of our recitation of our words.
- 22:09I Hate Talking: Hm But do you think that's because you, um, would you also then say, I know I speak fast, I intentionally have to slow down my speech when we're talking on this.
- 22:21I Hate Talking: Because I know from conversations with people just in general, that I tend to talk quickly.
- 22:29I Hate Talking: But if you and I are reading the same thing, You finish so much faster than I do.
- 22:39I Hate Talking: And I'm like, hold on, still reading.
- 22:41I Hate Talking: And if you say something or anyone disrupts me, it's gonna take infinitely longer for me to find my place and restart.
- 22:50I Hate Talking: Very true.
- 22:51I Hate Talking: So maybe another question that we can ask ourselves is what speed because again with technology we can modify the speed of a particular podcast or audiobook to be either faster or slower.
- 23:06I Hate Talking: So what speed do you listen to?
- 23:10I Hate Talking: As a norm for a podcast or a book.
- 23:15I Hate Talking: My speeds um vary between, sometimes I'm at one.
- 23:21I Hate Talking: Sometimes I'm up to, I'd say like 1.2, 1.5 is my average.
- 23:28I Hate Talking: I occasionally will go to 2, but It definitely depends on first, who's speaking and how fast they're speaking, and then second, what they're talking about.
- 23:42I Hate Talking: Cause if it's something I really need to pause and think about, I'll slow it down to 1.2 or 1.
- 23:49I Hate Talking: You, on the other hand, go ahead, what do you listen to?
- 23:53I Hate Talking: So my default is to.
- 23:56I Hate Talking: There are a few podcasters out there that I do need to slow down, and I do find that perhaps when a podcaster has a guest and it is not a voice that I'm used to hearing that I have to slow it down to either a 1.5 or 1.8.
- 24:13I Hate Talking: But then there also are particular narrators out there, shout out to Ray Porter.
- 24:20I Hate Talking: That I can listen to on 2.5, even 3 speed because one, they do read a little bit slower, uh, but also the voice and the rhythm that they use to speak is very familiar and I can listen to it in a much faster rate.
- 24:40I Hate Talking: Yeah, and like you said, familiar, if it's someone you've listened to for a long while.
- 24:45I Hate Talking: Someone you're familiar with, I think you can probably listen quicker.
- 24:49I Hate Talking: Occasionally, um, Audible or the podcast will come on, whatever you are listening to, and I physically feel my heart start racing.
- 25:00I Hate Talking: Like you listen so fast that it becomes a Stressor for me when I listen to it that way.
- 25:07I Hate Talking: Now the drawback to this is that when you listen to people in real life, you cannot s them up.
- 25:14I Hate Talking: You can't just click a button to make them talk faster.
- 25:19I Hate Talking: But I can always read faster and that is why, again, I would consider myself a visual learner.
- 25:25I Hate Talking: Interesting.
- 25:27I Hate Talking: So which one am I going back to this.
- 25:29I Hate Talking: I still do not know.
- 25:31I Hate Talking: Can you just be both?
- 25:33I Hate Talking: So I do think that you can be both, you can be elastic, to reuse a word that we used in a previous episode that you can.
- 25:42I Hate Talking: Certainly be able to read when maybe typically you prefer to listen in order to learn and vice versa.
- 25:51I Hate Talking: But I do think that typically you are going to be one or the other, but that if you're using both, that that is again, the best way to retain information.
- 26:03I Hate Talking: The other thing that I've had success with recently is I can listen to a book on a fast speed, like a 2 or 2.2.
- 26:11I Hate Talking: Do a first pass at it and then come back to it and listen to it at a 3.5 and That probably takes about the same time as a 1 or 1.2, but I think because I'm listening to it twice, that I'll actually have greater retention than just doing the slower speed one time.
- 26:30I Hate Talking: That is super interesting cause you are, it's now familiar.
- 26:35I Hate Talking: You know what to expect, but it's just solidifying in your brain, something, cause they say, right, the more you listen to something, the more um it sticks.
- 26:46I Hate Talking: So, uh, Listening to it fast 2 times may give you a better chance of Remembering what you've heard.
- 26:56I Hate Talking: Exactly.
- 26:57I Hate Talking: And I think to answer your question in a very straightforward fashion, I would say that you are an auditory learner.
- 27:06I Hate Talking: Why would you think that?
- 27:08I Hate Talking: Because you like to talk and you like to listen and you like to hear stories and that even in your self-described childhood of things that you love, it is things that you have listened to, not things that you have read.
- 27:23I Hate Talking: OK, so would you think that instead of just a personality quirk.
- 27:28I Hate Talking: Uh yes, I can listen to somebody else talk for endlessly, and I love that.
- 27:34I Hate Talking: Um, that's not a personality quirk.
- 27:36I Hate Talking: You would think that that would be just how I learn and process knowledge.
- 27:40I Hate Talking: Your preferred way to learn and process knowledge.
- 27:44I Hate Talking: Oh preferred.
- 27:45I Hate Talking: There you go, that's good.
- 27:47I Hate Talking: So, whatever way you learn, whether that be through the visual processes or the auditory processes.
- 27:55I Hate Talking: Remember, from your friends at I Hate Talking, it is only through talking that we begin the journey to understanding.