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Patriots Unfiltered 4/14: Eliot Wolf Presser Analysis, NFL Draft Talk, Latest Mocks/Buzz · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 2: to Patriots Unfiltered.
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  Speaker 3: What is the official definition of old guys?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Uncle Lord Aska? What is the number?
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  Speaker 4: One hundred five five five past?
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  Speaker 5: That?
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  Speaker 2: I love?
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  Speaker 1: Like these high school kids who are even if they're
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  Speaker 1: not recruits, they're making their own graphics of like where
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  Speaker 1: they're going to school, Like the decision good at Bridgewater States.
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  Speaker 1: Did you guys ever win a championship in your various
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  Speaker 1: athletic endeavors you want, you have to win your conference
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  Speaker 1: to then go the Big Dance.
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  Speaker 2: So I didn't want to win the Big Dance, But okay,
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  Speaker 2: conference title won my last hockey game.
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  Speaker 1: If Fred and Paul were opposing head coaches of equally
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  Speaker 1: talented teams, who would win that game?
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  Speaker 4: So I'm giving that one to Paul.
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  Speaker 1: Paul bo school o'clock manager. Really yeah, I go Fred,
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  Speaker 1: Like Fred would be like, you know, call heads, but
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  Speaker 1: then when they be like no, I.
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  Speaker 3: Called the it's like just get some kind of controversies,
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  Speaker 3: like you can't do that.
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  Speaker 6: What do you do with the leadership is not one
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  Speaker 6: that I didn't consider. I was more thinking no offense
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  Speaker 6: football achemen.
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  Speaker 3: This is Patriots Unfiltered, presented by Toyota's official website for
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  Speaker 3: deals by a Toyota dot Com. Oh excuse me, I
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  Speaker 3: was just reading my R lads Draft guide.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.
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  Speaker 3: It is Tuesday, here rachel Lett's Stadium, and the gang's
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  Speaker 3: all here. It's Evan, it's Paul, it's me, it's Duce,
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  Speaker 3: it's Matt and the booth and we're talking.
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  Speaker 2: We're getting ready for the draft coming.
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  Speaker 3: Up in less than two weeks now, getting excited about that.
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  Speaker 3: We had Elliott Wolf talking that that's the first sign
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  Speaker 3: that the draft is here, and he was talking from
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  Speaker 3: the new Patriots training facility, kind of a soft opening yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: If you will. Yeah, in the media workroom, the new Balance,
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  Speaker 2: the new.
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  Speaker 3: Balance, Aletics center, plural. Yeah, so very exciting times. Here
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  Speaker 3: Richel state what it was like drafter piece theater.
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  Speaker 2: Are you boys stepping it up a little bit? This
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  Speaker 2: looks a little, This looks a little.
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  Speaker 1: They go back and forth professionally bound this year.
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  Speaker 2: A little a little. She got to compete with the best,
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  Speaker 2: and you're looking get that back.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I need in ft with the glasses and I
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  Speaker 1: need it like that. Oh hello, yeah you know you were.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so this came in the mail yesterday the r
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  Speaker 3: lads and then I I haven't printed out the Beast yet.
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  Speaker 2: I had to get around to doing that.
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  Speaker 1: You better get about a seven hundred pages ready to Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: print that sucker printed out. Remember last year we came in.
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  Speaker 1: I don't draft it either, because that's we came in
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  Speaker 1: for the draft show and there's just a stack of
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  Speaker 1: white papers all like paper clips.
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  Speaker 5: So I like, I like to take the beasts the
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  Speaker 5: positional rankings, you know, like just the page with the
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  Speaker 5: names listed and then his top hundred. Yeah, I like,
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  Speaker 5: I print those out for you know, I haven't been
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  Speaker 5: here somewhere, but I have those for reference. But I'll
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  Speaker 5: wait to the guys that we actually take and then
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  Speaker 5: I'll print those pages out for my own.
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  Speaker 2: What I do, and I like, now I just have
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  Speaker 2: it all in my head.
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  Speaker 3: I take it and I divide it up by the positions,
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  Speaker 3: and I took those bulldog clips and I clip each
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  Speaker 3: position together, so I make mini booklets, right, and then
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  Speaker 3: I do with Paul. I also then I have separate
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  Speaker 3: his top one hundred, and between that and this book,
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  Speaker 3: I start crossing off the names as they get drafted.
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  Speaker 1: Do we have any back of the envelope sort of
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  Speaker 1: like scoring a baseball?
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  Speaker 2: This is this is how you get a back of
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  Speaker 2: the envelope.
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  Speaker 1: This is this is the process for fred. I mean
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  Speaker 1: that's what.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody's got their process.
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  Speaker 5: The guys that our lads where the position that's not
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  Speaker 5: in the top twenty five and the Beast he comes
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  Speaker 5: a back and.
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  Speaker 3: They don't have Mendoza in this. I'm only kidding. I'm
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  Speaker 3: only kidding to my friends at our lads and do
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  Speaker 3: a great job. Yeah, but it always seems every year
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  Speaker 3: there's like one guy that I can't find him.
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  Speaker 1: It's not here, so not in the Beast.
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  Speaker 3: So what are you guys thinking? Between what Elliott had
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  Speaker 3: to say yesterday and the draft coming up? What's what's
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  Speaker 3: on your mind?
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  Speaker 1: Like Devin's sing, we came out and Evan was like,
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  Speaker 1: would you underline you were like day three off the ball, linebacker,
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  Speaker 1: speed off the edge. There were some like very specific
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  Speaker 1: things that he that he put out that I think
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  Speaker 1: we then all scurried back to our prospects and kind
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  Speaker 1: of tried to make it fit.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's fun.
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  Speaker 6: What I like about his approach Shelley Wolf's is that
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  Speaker 6: it doesn't necessarily mean it's all gonna work out, but
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  Speaker 6: he kind of takes a very common sense approach to
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  Speaker 6: the way that they look at the draft. Like if
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  Speaker 6: you just looked at the Patriots roster at the edge
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  Speaker 6: position right now, and he looked at their depth chart,
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  Speaker 6: what would you say is like sort of the missing
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  Speaker 6: ingredient from that group, and it's like somebody that can
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  Speaker 6: get after the quarterback on third down. And then he
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  Speaker 6: goes up at the podium and they ask him about
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  Speaker 6: the EDG Dresser and he's like, yeah, he probably could
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  Speaker 6: use some speed off the edge, and it's like, again,
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  Speaker 6: it doesn't mean that they're gonna be able to fill
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  Speaker 6: that need or fix it or the problem or whatever,
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  Speaker 6: but it's uh. He doesn't try to get over complicated
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  Speaker 6: or overthink things. And I think people that approach the
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  Speaker 6: draft when they overthink the draft is when you start
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  Speaker 6: to get yourself into trouble. Like you never hear the
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  Speaker 6: Eagles call a name in the first round and people
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  Speaker 6: are like, Howie Roseman took who from where? No it's
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  Speaker 6: always like Jordan Davis, Oh yeah, defense.
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  Speaker 2: Is stud from Georgia.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, this makes sense. Again, not all of them
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  Speaker 4: pan out.
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  Speaker 6: But in an exact science, that's probably the best way
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  Speaker 6: to do it in my opinion.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I like the just the overall sense of thinking
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and I say it a lot looking
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  Speaker 1: at next year's free agents and kind of basing some
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  Speaker 1: of the needs off of that with like on when
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  Speaker 1: you coming up and a bunch of the coming up.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it's easy to look at the obvious
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  Speaker 1: holes right now, but I think once you get into
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  Speaker 1: the rhythm of how it's supposed to be, you should
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  Speaker 1: be drafting that way. You know, you should be ahead
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  Speaker 1: of the curve a little bit and not. And that's
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  Speaker 1: why I was kind of thinking about, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: question of the of the springs, did the team get
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  Speaker 1: better in free agency? And you know, I get why
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  Speaker 1: they're asking that, because you know, you probably can't look
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  Speaker 1: at it and be like, well, they're dramatically better in
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  Speaker 1: this spot. But I just feel like, if you're asking
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  Speaker 1: yourself what teams got the best got the most better
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  Speaker 1: in the spring, it's the crappy teams that had to
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  Speaker 1: go get the free agents.
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  Speaker 2: So totally agree.
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  Speaker 1: You want to get into a place where you don't
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  Speaker 1: get through free agency and then you judge whether or
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  Speaker 1: not you're better or not. It's well, the best teams
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  Speaker 1: are improving and the best teams are putting guys like
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  Speaker 1: Jared Wilson into their long term role where you might
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  Speaker 1: say Garrett Bradberry was better last year, then maybe he'll
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  Speaker 1: be this year, but in the long term he will
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  Speaker 1: be better. So, you know, I just I think that's
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  Speaker 1: what we're trying to build towards is getting back in
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  Speaker 1: that cycle where you're not constantly trying to play whack
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  Speaker 1: a mole with needs for this replenishing. You're replenishing and
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  Speaker 1: looking down the road and saying next year, when we
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  Speaker 1: have three wide receivers come up for free agency, we're
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  Speaker 1: going to look back and say, hey, Kyle Williams is
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  Speaker 1: now gonna be able to get into these roles or
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  Speaker 1: somebody we draft this year, you know able to come in.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I like that.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I just wonder when when they start doing that,
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  Speaker 6: Like you could argue that you know that at a
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  Speaker 6: lot of different positions, and I think it gets complicated
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  Speaker 6: of you know, is that really something that you want
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  Speaker 6: to do in the first round is draft somebody who
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  Speaker 6: you're really drafting for twenty twenty seven, not necessarily for
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  Speaker 6: twenty twenty six. Like, I still feel like they're in
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  Speaker 6: a position in the first round at least, and I
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  Speaker 6: would say really the first two rounds, but at least
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  Speaker 6: the first round where they need to be drafting somebody
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  Speaker 6: who's going to play right away and make an impact
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  Speaker 6: right away.
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  Speaker 3: So how different would we be looking at this offseason
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  Speaker 3: if the Patriots same players as last year but they
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  Speaker 3: finished the season like eight to nine and missed the
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  Speaker 3: playoffs or nine to eight, How differently would we be
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  Speaker 3: looking at this draft in this off season?
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  Speaker 6: Well, that's so I think that's sort of what I'm
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  Speaker 6: trying to do, is because I don't I don't think
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  Speaker 6: they feel like they were a super Bowl caliber team.
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  Speaker 3: That's kind of what I'm getting at.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great question.
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  Speaker 6: I think they've kind of said that at both of them,
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  Speaker 6: so Elliot Wolf and Mike Rabel. So I feel like
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  Speaker 6: to say sit here and say, yes, they have a
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  Speaker 6: need in twenty twenty seven at a bunch of different
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  Speaker 6: positions tight end, guard, linebacker, potentially safety if you draft
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  Speaker 6: that guy this year, so you're gonna draft a third safety,
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  Speaker 6: you know, Like and if you're to your point, Fred,
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  Speaker 6: you're still feel like you're building here, Like, wouldn't you
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  Speaker 6: want that player to make a little bit more of
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  Speaker 6: an immediate impact and have a path to play a
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  Speaker 6: little bit sooner than he's going to replace Mike Onwennu
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  Speaker 6: next year?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: You know, like, how does that really help the twenty
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  Speaker 4: twenty six other than depth?
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  Speaker 5: And that's why I like Mike's the way Mike put that,
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  Speaker 5: and I totally agree.
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  Speaker 2: I think you can marry the two.
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  Speaker 5: I think you should be able to find some guys
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  Speaker 5: that can immediately fill holes.
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  Speaker 2: This year early in the draft.
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  Speaker 5: But I also think they will have an eye on
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  Speaker 5: what Mike is talking about and trying to find maybe
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  Speaker 5: a Day three guard or two.
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  Speaker 2: I mean they have right now all of those.
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  Speaker 5: Day three eight, Day three picks. You're probably going to
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  Speaker 5: take multiple offensive lineman with those, and you know, who knows,
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  Speaker 5: maybe you strike it rich again and get another Michael
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  Speaker 5: Winnhu who was also a sixth round pick.
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  Speaker 2: You know, that's the goal.
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  Speaker 5: Now, they've done that a lot lately, and they haven't
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  Speaker 5: had as much success with it, But that doesn't mean
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  Speaker 5: you stop trying. It's like the whole wide receiver thing.
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  Speaker 5: You don't just stop taking wide receivers early because you
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  Speaker 5: haven't been able to do it. So I think you
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  Speaker 5: can marry the two philosophies. I think Mike is right.
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  Speaker 5: I think good teams are hoping that their draft picks
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  Speaker 5: that they've just made are going to continue to progress.
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  Speaker 5: And then you get the Evan pipeline that Evan just
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  Speaker 5: talked about. Yeah, and you have guys ready to I
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  Speaker 5: mean to step into bigger roles.
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  Speaker 3: You got a Morgan Moses, so you say, all right,
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  Speaker 3: tackle fine, you know, forget about the death.
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  Speaker 2: But remind me of something on Morgan Moses.
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  Speaker 3: But there's nothing wrong with drafting that guy who you
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  Speaker 3: hope will replace Morgan Moses, you know, and doing it
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  Speaker 3: that way. Elliott said, you know, you never want to
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  Speaker 3: be in a position where you have to draft for need.
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  Speaker 3: Now we didn't say whether or not they're in that
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  Speaker 3: position or not. They might be in that position where
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  Speaker 3: there is a little bit of weight on the need
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  Speaker 3: part rather than the best player available. Still, you know,
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  Speaker 3: for certain positions. But I you know, I agree totally
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  Speaker 3: what Evan's saying is, you know you want to get
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  Speaker 3: into that cycle where you're you're just replenishing your team
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  Speaker 3: through the draft and hoping that you know, you hit
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  Speaker 3: on a few guys.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Tevin's point. It might be a lot
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  Speaker 1: to ask to take a guard and say, you know, pregnant,
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna sit for a year. But at the tackle position,
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  Speaker 1: I could be kind of talked into it a little
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  Speaker 1: bit with you know, Blake Miller. We've talked about Blake
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  Speaker 1: Miller and I Haannitcher.
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  Speaker 4: Close enough.
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  Speaker 1: I know that it become a joke that I can't
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  Speaker 1: get anymore.
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  Speaker 5: But I thinks Fred would win in one on one
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  Speaker 5: coaching matchup with me.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I said he would. He would. He would know
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  Speaker 2: how to He would protest with you, and.
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  Speaker 1: He would have weird little things that he did different
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  Speaker 1: that would take what's he doing?
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  Speaker 2: He can't do that.
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  Speaker 5: He wouldn't question a call, he would question the rule.
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  Speaker 1: You know, how to push your buttons. But I think
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  Speaker 1: to the tackle position, I think at thirty one, maybe
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  Speaker 1: it's it's worth a consideration, you know, because you don't
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  Speaker 1: know exception.
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  Speaker 6: To me, that's all exception just more about because of
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  Speaker 6: the talent and the draft and the class.
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  Speaker 5: I need to see what happens before them before I
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  Speaker 5: go all the way in I I heard this morning.
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  Speaker 5: I think Chris Price was on and he's advocating for
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  Speaker 5: like the seventh tackle.
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  Speaker 2: I no wanting. I don't want the seventh tackle, and
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  Speaker 2: I know that it's a deep position. I I did.
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  Speaker 5: This is this is actually one of the positions. I
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  Speaker 5: did some research on it because I know, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: they are going to be defensive line is a possibility
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  Speaker 5: at thirty one, So I did pay a little extra.
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  Speaker 2: Attention to that.
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  Speaker 5: I don't want to take the seventh or eighth tackle
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  Speaker 5: at thirty one, even if it means, you know, even
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  Speaker 5: if it's you know, a guy who's going to start
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  Speaker 5: probably next year, I would I would rather get a
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  Speaker 5: better player than that.
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  Speaker 1: I think if I was.
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  Speaker 3: A GM, i'd look at my roster and I would say,
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  Speaker 3: you know, in terms of this question of need versus
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  Speaker 3: you know, best player, I would say, is there a
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  Speaker 3: place on our team, a position on our team where
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  Speaker 3: it's going to lose US games? And if there's an
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  Speaker 3: answer yes to some place, then I gotta I gotta
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  Speaker 3: fill that need.
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  Speaker 2: I got to fill that need.
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  Speaker 3: So if you agree with that, is there a place
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  Speaker 3: right now on the Patriots roster as it's constituted right
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  Speaker 3: now that if we go to if we had to
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  Speaker 3: start today, we could lose games because of this position.
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  Speaker 1: I mean the third tackle. I mean that might be
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  Speaker 1: a stretch, but I go back to that. I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: I have a tough time those I just think, like,
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  Speaker 6: to me, it's they still I think have needs at
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  Speaker 6: some PREMI in positions you know, tackle, edge, playmaker on offense.
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  Speaker 2: But as it is right now, is it's not going
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  Speaker 2: to cost you games.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know if it's going to cost you games,
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  Speaker 6: but I think that I look at the thirty first
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  Speaker 6: pick of what's going to make the biggest impact immediately,
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  Speaker 6: and you could make the case of that is pass rusher.
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  Speaker 2: I think, you know, off the edge.
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  Speaker 6: If you can't get a guy at thirty one that's
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  Speaker 6: going to come in and potentially flirt with double DIGITSUND.
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  Speaker 3: But I want to stop you right there. Okay, so
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  Speaker 3: you've defined it as I want to look at the
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  Speaker 3: guy that can make the biggest impact right now, right Okay,
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  Speaker 3: does that mean that that's the best player available?
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  Speaker 6: I think so, because I mean, I don't know about
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  Speaker 6: best I don't know, like I don't.
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  Speaker 3: Because of who else.
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  Speaker 6: But I don't really agree you have the best player
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  Speaker 6: available thing. See, It's it's because I think it's kind
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  Speaker 6: of a fallacy. Like if you're going to say the
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  Speaker 6: best player available at thirty one is the player that
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  Speaker 6: you should draft?
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  Speaker 4: What what if it's a quarterback?
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  Speaker 3: No, but what I'm trying to get at right, absolutely,
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  Speaker 3: But what I'm trying to get that is the best center.
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  Speaker 3: The guy that can make the best, biggest impact on
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  Speaker 3: one team may not be the same on another team. Right,
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  Speaker 3: So if we're so deficient that one position and you
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  Speaker 3: take the player that's going to make the biggest impact,
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  Speaker 3: all that could mean is he's playing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think it's as dramatic as you're making it sound, though, Like,
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  Speaker 5: is there a position on the roster that's going to
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  Speaker 5: cost you games?
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  Speaker 2: In my view, really, if you want to really get.
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  Speaker 5: To it, there's only one position on the team anywhere
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  Speaker 5: in the league that's going to cost you games if
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  Speaker 5: you don't have it, and that's quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: Well, but I also like, you know, not to go
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  Speaker 2: all Belichick. You know, if we had a game tomorrow.
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  Speaker 5: We could put a lineup out there and start, like
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  Speaker 5: you have NFL caliber players that will start. I agree
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  Speaker 5: with all of the people that have been saying the edge,
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  Speaker 5: the playmaker, you know, the offensive line, but like, to me,
• 14:49
  Speaker 5: the offensive line is more depth.
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: I don't think your starting five is going to cost
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: you games, well at least I hope not.
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: Well unless your left tackle is so deficient.
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah I know, but I don't think that they're left
• 14:59
  Speaker 5: tackle was so deficient.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: Well no, I know, I'm just saying if it was, yeah, I.
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: Mean, I just not just don't think there are a
• 15:05
  Speaker 5: lot of like I think most teams have like players
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: that will start. Not everybody has a quarterback like that
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: will cost you games. But when you're one of those
• 15:15
  Speaker 5: teams that doesn't that you've seen them, like sure, you
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: know the Cardinals last year, it keeps you from winning,
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: Like it will prevent you from winning. I think that's
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: kind of where I would draw the line. Like I've
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: seen many teams with nothing at the offensive line. I mean,
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: obviously makes it a lot harder. Yeah, but and you know,
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: and they're able to work arounded scheme around it. You
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: want to get better at those spots. And I recognize it.
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: But I could see a situation and thank goodness, we're
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: not there where GM looks at his roster says, we
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: don't have.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: A starting cornerback. Corner back.
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: We've got cornerbacks, but none of them are number one.
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: We need a cornerback on this team, you know, to
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: set the room right because right now, like we're not
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: good enough.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: I think they're an edge light still.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they could use a starting caliber edge player,
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: but I don't you know, yeah, I think that that's.
• 16:06
  Speaker 6: Like to me, that's what it is, because you need
• 16:08
  Speaker 6: to you need to have a way for that player
• 16:12
  Speaker 6: to play early on as a rookie, Like what's the path,
• 16:16
  Speaker 6: like we keep going back to guard or even like
• 16:20
  Speaker 6: let's use tight end for example. You know, I think
• 16:23
  Speaker 6: that they could draft a tight end on Day two
• 16:25
  Speaker 6: that has a lot of upside and a lot of potential.
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: Is he going to be better than Hunter Henry as
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: a rookie? Probably not.
• 16:31
  Speaker 6: You know, Hunter Henry is probably still going to be
• 16:33
  Speaker 6: your starting tight end linebacker.
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: I think Robert Splain.
• 16:36
  Speaker 6: Is going to be better than anybody that you draft
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: for twenty twenty six. The one spot that I think
• 16:41
  Speaker 6: that they could probably improve on that. You can say
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: that is probably on the edge, Like I like Draymond Jones,
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: He's a fine player. Harold Andrew if he's healthy, is
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: a fine player. But with the talent that's in this
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: class that he could use a starting caliber edge. Yeah,
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: they could maybe get a guy that is the best
• 16:57
  Speaker 6: pass rusher out of that group, almost even if he's
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: not the most well rounded or whatever, but just instant
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: speed off the edge pass rush ability. You know, one
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: of these guys like Howl or mesidor or our Mason
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: Thomas or Lawrence or one of any one of these
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: guys are probably the best pass rusher.
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: Mason Thomas thing is gonna drive me crazy. You know,
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: he's ours are or.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Our lads ours there are there.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: There are a lot of guys though, I mean, Nev
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: and I just did another mock draft video and there's
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: just a lot of guys who play with that fire
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: and that you know, just that energy that you can
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: tell that that Vrabel and them cove it. And so
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: I think they've got a lot of a lot of
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: different options. But I think I do think they kind
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: of run out quick. So I mean, if you you
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: don't hit one of those guys in the first two rounds.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: It's it.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's it's a good class, it's
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: a deep class, but I.
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: Think he day three runs out quick, yeah, because there's
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: so much talent at the top, Like the top one
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: hundred is going to have like sixteen guys sixteen seventeen
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: guys that go in the top one hundred at EDGE.
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: Once you get into day three, I think you do
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: fall off a cliff of bit, but there's still going
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: to be quality players, i'd say into the third round,
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: especially when you start to consider body types and heights
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: and weights and different skill sets.
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: That's where your thing comes into play, is one team's
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: prototype might be completely different from another team in.
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: This class with a deposition like edge that is I
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: think the most important thing is what is what what's
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: your height, what's your weight?
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: What are your parameters for you? For that player?
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: You know, the guy i'd just like to maybe talk about,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: and I think it gets to what Fred is talking
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: about is like Caden McDonald probably you know the best
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: defensive tackles and could be a guy that's available at
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: thirty one. And that's a position where you say the
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: middle of the line guy. Yeah, he's a big guy.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: He's a big guy, you know, but certainly a need.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: But is that a position? And I know what Paul's
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: going to say, but I mean, that's why I skuld debate.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: It's just, you know, is that a position where you say, look,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: this guy is the best defensive tackle in this class.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: It's pushed him down to us. It's not a huge need,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: but we feel like we're gonna plug this guy in immediately. Yeah,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: and Tim Barmore and Milton Williams to go.
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: And I would be in favor of something like that. Now,
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: I'm not advocating taking him, but I'm saying, if that's
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: the way it unfolded. And now you're getting a guy
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: that a lot of people think is, you know, top
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: twenty ish talent, and he's there at thirty one.
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I don't know if he's that because he
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: doesn't rush the past.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: No.
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so you know he led the fbs and run
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: stuffs last year. Thirty run stuff is playing nose tackle,
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: so this isn't just like a space eating nose tackle
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: as a guy that gets off blocks and makes plays,
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: but he doesn't really rush the passer like he's probably
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: not going to play on third down very much.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: But but I mean having that guy in the middle,
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: he's going to say certain help helps the rest.
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: Of your defense helps you get to third Those.
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: Kinds of things, and this can be like a longer
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: convoluted thing. But those types of things give you flexibility
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: to loster flexibility. So let's just say, for arguments sake,
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: we play the play it out. This guy ends up
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: being a stud, right, he's a stud in the middle, Carter.
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: That allows you to do something with Christian Barmore if
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: you want to. Because Milton Williams is here, you know,
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: he's signed the long term deal right now.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Barmore's here.
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: There's been a lot of talk about whether or not
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: he's here long term or not. I think he'll be
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: here this year based on you know, we're sitting here
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: at the draft and he's still on the roster. But
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: if you hit on a guy like that, does that.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Give you more flexibility? You can turn that into assets, you.
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: Know going forward, you can clear some salary as you
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: have Christian Gonzalez and Drake May on the horizon for
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: big money deals like those kinds of things can give
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: you some flexibilities.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: An example of potentially one of the advantages of picking
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: down to the bottom where somebody does kind of get
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: kicked through the cracks a little bit, and if you
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: have that kind of flexibility to be able to say, look,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: not a huge need, but this guy's going.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: To be a superstar.
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: Same kind of thing happened with a similar kind of
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: player one hundred years ago in Vince Wilfork. Vince Wilfork
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: wasn't expected to be there when the Patriots took Man
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: twenty one. Yeah, he wasn't supposed to be around that late.
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: M Yeah, and ended up being obviously a really good
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: pick for him. And it wasn't a huge you know what.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: A huge need?
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean they just they had.
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: A really good defensive line with a couple of other
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: recent first rounders and Seymour and Warren in it already,
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: right right, they already This is kind of Evan and
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: Paul's thing, like we're not really at that stage.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Just just take it. They donald.
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: That is thing that you know, Tonga obviously leaves in
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: free agency, so they have a need for a run
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: stuffing nose tackle.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: So at least you can put hit a guy.
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: Like McDonald into Tonga's snaps right away. Now you hope
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: that he's better and that he you know, plays even
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: more than that. But to Paul's point, you know, maybe
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: in twenty twenty six he's just tires Tonga, you know,
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: and plays in that role. And then in twenty twenty seven,
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: is Christian Barmore still around or not, you know, and
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: then maybe he's playing even more in twenty seven.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: That one at least I can see.
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: A path of this is what we're going to do
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: with this player as a rookie to get him on
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: the field. Is playing forty five percent of the snaps
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: that Tongo left behind. Now, I think they're better depth
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: there at nose tackle in this class compared to others,
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: Like you could probably get that with Dominique Orange or
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: Dante Corleone or any of those guys like third and
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: fourth round even later that are just going to be
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: run players. So maybe you don't have to reach out
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: thirty one on a detackle. But McDonald's considered the only
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: guy that that really is a surefire first rounder.
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: So social social guys are rooting for for Orange or
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• 22:36
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• 22:38
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• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Right, merch.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: So it's good stuff. Obviously the emails are coming in now.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: This is uh, we've hit on the subject that people
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: most want to talk about right now, so let's get
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: right into it. I guess we'll get to the phones.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: Eight five to five pats five hundred eight five No, No,
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  Speaker 3: when I heard that, when I heard the intro, I
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  Speaker 2: It's sorry.
• 23:08
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• 23:13
  Speaker 2: On behalf of Fred. I would just like to apologize
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: to everybody for last week but last week. Yeah, you're
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: both out about that. Yeah, last Thursday show evidently, Uh.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: You know, I thought it went great, but what happened?
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: No, no, I don't know.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: It wasn't okay, I did mess up the phone number
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: that is, that's accurate.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: He did a great job.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: But otherwise I'm sure Mike was perfectly adequate in his adiquosity.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: A lot of football though.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: I mean we noticed, you know, we figured out Fred
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: on Tuesday when I had to sit in the chair
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: for you, there was it was like Evan, we did
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: finish the episode that was like, that was like a
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Catch twenty two episode. We're like, we didn't do anything fun.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: So we realized you always have, like, you know, your
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: musings about what you thought about on the drive in,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: and you take us down these back paths that involve fun.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: But apparently when I host, there's no I don't I
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: don't get into the fun stuff.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Why is that?
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: I don't know, because I usually a pretty fun show.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: I'm a pretty fun guy. Are you too clenched up
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: back there that you can't well, I mean I do
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: have an I do have a ball Catch twenty two.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Let's just talk hardcore football side too, So I maybe
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: I slip into that, but you know me, I'm I'm
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: always down guy.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: I thought we were going to get into like punters
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: at one point, We're.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Going, I'm not bars, Let's go well, actually, well, Bart's
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: got Bart's got a tough show coming up this afternoon.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: We can talk about that. What's what's he doing?
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Oh he's got to tangle with with mask today.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Yesterday they got.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Some they got some new things they're throwing in figure.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: I know they're throwing things at the board.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Now, I know I really have you that as a
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: personal a front to all of us who put a
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: lot of hard work into our big boards and they
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: just throw darts.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: That's it's and they get some right they do.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, throw a hundred of them and eventually you're going
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: to hit one.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Wow, good bit you can you can hear the jealousy, jealousy,
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: jealous I don't like how they treat It's more just
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: I don't like how there now.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I really don't why the bully is serious right now.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: No, I really don't like they.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: Do bully him a little bit, but I think he
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: comes off as a smart draft guy and something that
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: they're not.
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: That's that's fair as his friend, you know, like it's
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: kind of like a brother thing right now.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: I can make.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Stand up for yourself.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: I don't like that.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, don't let them talk to you like that.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: You my friend.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if you.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Know, if you're not gonna if you're not one of
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: the hosts and you come on that show, you kind
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: of have to come on with a character.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: You have to have a character, right.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: And you also need to have a thick skin. Believe me,
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: thick skin right, that's.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: His shows, So you know, all right, So we had
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: all six lines lit up at one time, and during the.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Show, how is that possible? It was like, how is
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: this possible?
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: MAT's like, yeah, we fixed the phones and like they've
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: broken for.
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: Five years, Like I got I got a bulletin.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: I can't have more than three lines.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: I got a text about it.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: We had five of them lit up.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: That's cool.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: No, we used to have five and then we would
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: deserve one for the hotline.
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, for the next week is vacation week around here too,
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: you know, not only the draft. So you know what
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: that means means spring break for the kids. Yeah, yeah,
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: you know what that means for Paul? Oh what vacation
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: field in time? Your favorite time of the year. Okay,
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: there you go.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: All right, let's get to it. People are waiting herms
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: in DC.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: What's up herb.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: Here?
• 26:23
  Speaker 7: What's going on with squad?
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Question?
• 26:29
  Speaker 7: And this might be obviously very prettymature.
• 26:33
  Speaker 8: But it kind of ties a little bit into a
• 26:36
  Speaker 8: conversation I with Paul a while ago by a bunch
• 26:39
  Speaker 8: of bills and matter of fact.
• 26:41
  Speaker 7: Paul of Mike had which we were Mike he might
• 26:45
  Speaker 7: afraid of a little bit wrong in terms of the
• 26:49
  Speaker 7: bills being desperate.
• 26:50
  Speaker 8: But my question is what did you guys' overall confidence
• 26:54
  Speaker 8: level moving forward?
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: And I understand it's still a rut of new regime, right,
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: and I don't want to really harp on the past
• 27:02
  Speaker 7: whatever happened in the past the past, but what if
• 27:05
  Speaker 7: you guys confidence level and the current regime consistently taking
• 27:11
  Speaker 7: good pass catchers moving forward?
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 27:14
  Speaker 7: And I say that, and I want to purchase this uh.
• 27:19
  Speaker 8: As I said earlier. I know it's super early.
• 27:21
  Speaker 7: But you know, Drake May will let me you get paid, right,
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: So with that having.
• 27:28
  Speaker 8: To go back into the free agent pool gonna be
• 27:31
  Speaker 8: I think it's.
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: Fairly difficult, you know what I mean moving forward?
• 27:34
  Speaker 8: So I guess to say all that to say, what
• 27:38
  Speaker 8: if you guys the confidence level moving forward that this
• 27:41
  Speaker 8: current regime will be able to consistently draft competent past catchers.
• 27:48
  Speaker 9: For Drake May?
• 27:49
  Speaker 7: And the reason why for the Buffalo Bills because I
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: think paulits have believe that just because you paid a
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: quarterback that's made you can't really on it.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right, thanks herm.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: So I guess that gist of the question is how
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: confident are we that the Patriots are going to be
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: able to draft good wide receivers. That is that really
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: the question is the question?
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: That was the question.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I wouldn't compare this to anything they've
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: done in the past because this is a new regime.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, they didn't draft Nikhil Harry or Aaron Dobson
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: or these guys. So now they did draft Kyle Williams,
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: and the jury's still out on him, and they used
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: the second round pick to get him, so third it
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: was the third, that's right, because they did Henderson in
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: the second.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, still top of the third, so kind.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: Of a second round, you know, as they said, close yeah,
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: close enough one of special picks, right, one of our
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: special picks. So the jury's still out on Kyle Williams.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: But I why wouldn't I be optimistic that they can
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: find a good wide receiver at thirty one if that
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: where they wanted to go.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the history, But I just I feel
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: the same way about all the positions. I don't, you know,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: it's like, oh, well, they can easily keep trying these guys,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: like you know, I just I think the draft is
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: a crapshoot generally speaking, any way. I mean, there's look
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: at how much the guys that know it all miss
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: I mean they miss all the time, but I get it.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: I mean they have to keep trying though. That's the
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: biggest part of it. I wouldn't just give up and
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: be like, well, we can't get them.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: You know, it's left for the Ravens.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: You know, they used first round picks on Daniel Graham
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: and Ben Watson, and you know, each one had their attributes,
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: but none of them was that complete tight end that you.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Were looking for.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Then they took a chance on a guy with a
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: bad back from Arizona, and he's going to be a
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: Hall of Famer.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: So you keep trying.
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, no doubt, you keep trying. My confidence level right
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: now not very high, but you do. There's no doubt
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: that you keep trying.
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: I think that they're It's interesting because they've they've sort
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: of pivoted like throughout you know. They they went with
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: Taekwon Thorton in twenty twenty two, who was just a lanky,
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: lean speed guy, and then they went to Jalen Polk,
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: who is more of like supposed to be the floor
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: you know, not a great athlete, but great hands and
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: body control and play strength and just sort of a
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: safe or bed and then they went with like a
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: small speed guy and Kyle Williams. Like they're all three
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: of them are very different type of players, and all
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: three of them have not exactly.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: Panned out yet.
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: You know, maybe Kyle Williams does, but right I until
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: they do it, I don't know how you could be
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: super confident that they're going to be able to.
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: I think that's fair. I'm with Fred a little bit
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: here on this one. I'm going to keep an open
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: mind and just keep taking swings and trying to find
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: a way because I think Evan's right. I think it's
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: easy to say, well, this is a new regime, and
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: technically that's true because Rabel is here, and I do
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: think that Rabel ultimately has the final say. But Wolf
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: and Grow were part of Thornton in Polk as well.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: You want to get fast, get faster playing.
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: You know, so they were part of you know, you know,
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: some pretty premium picks being used on wide receivers that
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: didn't hit two second rounders in a third rounder, and
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: I would count all of them as sort of, you know,
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: part of this brain trust. Again, it's a little different.
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: Williams is the only one that was drafted with rabel here,
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: so that's a little different, But I understand the skepticism.
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: I'm going to try to keep an open mind. I'm
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: going to be a little bit more like Fred on this.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Peter in South Floresas can't remember the name of
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: the gentleman who coaches all of you on your interviewing
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: skills during the Super Bowl week, but he needs to
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: do extensive training for Fred. Does the gentleman recommend you
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: say yep to all the time?
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: His name is Jerry Madelon and go f yourself.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: I don't think Jerry told him to do that. I'm
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: only kidding. Wow, Gmail, Yep.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: You can't say that.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: I'm only kidding you. Jerry Madelon is the coach. He's
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: great heat. I saw he gave you some tips today,
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: he did. I took them.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Hopefully it came out.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: What did you do with the plant your flag and
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: be definitive the defend.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: It was interesting because he was criticizing one of our
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: first mock draft videos, which honestly some of the players
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: I was kind of talking about. I was like, well,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: I'm really not all that passionate about this guy, so
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: I think it kind of shows a little bit when
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: you don't believe in somebody as much as you do
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: believe in them.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: You know what, Mike to fake it.
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: You just sort of nailed my whole apprehension about this
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: entire draft. And maybe it's as simple as the difference
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: between picking fourth and third the last two years and
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: thirty first. I'm not overly you know, Evnant had this big.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Thing last week.
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: I think it was last week about I just can't
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: fall in love with anybody.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Like I kind of agree with him. I don't love
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: this draft. There's not like there's.
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: A couple of guys that I really really like that
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: aren't really in line for the Patriots. You know, Like
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: Caleb Downs is a player I think is a really
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: good football player who's probably going to drop.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: A little bit because he's a safety.
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: Even if you dropped a thirty one, I'm not sure
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: I would love him for the Patriot. It's although I
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: probably take them because I think he's just be too
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: good to pass up. But I don't love a lot
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: of players in this draft.
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think that you're alone that loves a
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: lot of players in the draft.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Either.
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: It's not a I think when drafts get bad raps
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: or when there's not a lot of blue chip players
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: and there's not a lot of quarterbacks.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Like when those two things, the second thing was definitely.
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: Don't check those boxes.
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: So like with Mendoza really being the only franchise caliber
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: quarterback in this year, big Ty Simpson fan, this isn't
• 33:29
  Speaker 6: really there's not a ton of buzz about this draft
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: because of that last year's draft. At least we had
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: Travis Hunter and Abdul Carter who were two stud players
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: at premium positions, and Hunter just won the Heisman and was,
• 33:41
  Speaker 6: you know, two way player in this whole big deal.
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: Like those guys kind of you know, we're popular players.
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: And then obviously the year before, Drake's draft was just loaded.
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's just a hell of a draft. So
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: this one is out of the last three or four drafts,
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: this is probably the worst one.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: Alan I saw on this winning on one of the
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: football shows either on the network or ESPN.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Kind of one in the same these days.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: But h that Pittsburgh Steelers draft where they had four
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: Hall of Famers draft, Mike Webster, Jack Lambert.
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: The water Boy, they.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: Don't belong in the whole Yeah, but that's get four
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: Hall of Famers.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: And one draft.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's you know, when somebody who's asking
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: what our confidence level is, it's like, you know, not
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: just for the receiver position, but my feeling for the
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: overall Patriots is like they really need to keep stacking
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: drafts because they did a good job last year. They
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: but they've got some veterans in some positions right now
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: that you know. I think Tommy Kerran asked yesterday, Yeah,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: as we were saying, you need those top picks to
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: be really good in the hit on those, but those
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: later rounds are really valuable to try to stalk the
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: pantry behind these guys, because if they don't replace Hunter Henry,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: and they don't replace Morgan Moses, and they don't replace Robertsplane,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: and they don't replace Carlton Davis in a year or two,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: those guys are gonna be gone. And so it's a
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: constant process. So I need another good draft out of
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: these guys, and you know, hopefully not just with starters,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: but guys who you can say, well, they've got a
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: player behind the scenes. He used to six round pick
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: they started draft.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: Let me let me ask a question there, because you
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: know that Pittsburgh Draft we just talked about was pre
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: free agency. I think things have changed since then, but
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: also things have changed lately because the salary cap has
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: gotten so high. Yes, I do think the draft is
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: the way you build your team. But when you lose
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: guys like that Splane and Henry and Moses that you
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: know you're forecasting to lose, isn't that critical because now
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: you're probably going to have room under the cap to
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: replenish them through free agency as well.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, And it's a balance, like it's not like, well,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: we just always have to draft and we never even
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: have to think about free agency. But I think you
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: just don't want to leave so much in free agency
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: that you've got six holes. You have a couple holes,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: everybody's got a couple holes. But if you don't draft, well,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: now you're looking at the twenty twenty one.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, free agency.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: But I even think, like twenty years ago, last year,
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: the draft was probably even more important than it is now.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: I still think it's the most important thing, but it
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: was even more important.
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: I think the most important thing now about the draft
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: is the cost effectiveness of the draft, Like because if
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: you draft players at premium positions.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: You know, receivers. I saw a report. You know, I
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: just said receivers.
• 36:23
  Speaker 6: But I saw a report yesterday that Will Anderson might
• 36:26
  Speaker 6: get fifty million dollars a year on his contract extension
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: with the Texans. So if you have to continuously dip
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: into the veteran market, whether that's trade or free agency,
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: you're paying top dollar for those players.
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: You can only play so many of those guys.
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: Whereas with the draft, if you draft, if you hit
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: on a Christian Gonzales in the draft, you now have
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: one of the best corners in football on a rookie
• 36:46
  Speaker 6: contract for four years, maybe even five if you do
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: it with the fifty year option. That's why I like,
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: I'm so big on drafting premium positions early, because if
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: you hit on the edge rusher, if you hit on
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: the wide receiver, if you hit on the quarterback, like,
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: you don't have to pay that guy now for four
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: or five years. Where As if you hit on a guard,
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: it's like, okay, great, but like I can just go,
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: I can go buy a guard. I can go pay
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: Elijah verraatucker. But I think the middle of the market.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: I think I think the threshold for being able to
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: retain you know, those big guys is easier now than
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: it was twenty years ago.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: So if you have your quarterback, you have a cornerback,
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: you have an edge rusher, A team can probably afford
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: to pay three top notch guys.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Will they Well, that's a different question.
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: I see both sides, because what Evan's talking about is
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: the cash, and I do like so in Houston's case,
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: to use your example, Will Anderson, it's going to be
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: hard for them. And they paid Stingley a lot of money.
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: They paid Will Anderson a lot of money. They haven't
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: addressed the quarterback yet, yeap, and they want to. Well
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: that's the whole thing is they're probably I think Nick
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: Cassario is buying himself some time. He picked up the
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: fifty year option, but I'd be surprised if he gets
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: that they're going to do the two of them and
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: make them wait, you know, the extra year, which they should,
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: especially based on that last you know, the last thing
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: that we saw was just complete ineptitude at quarterback for them.
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: But let's just say he bounces back and has a
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: good year. Now that's another guy who's going to be
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: in the fifty plus million dollar a year category. So
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: at some point it's the cash. Yeah, Like you're absolutely
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: right about the cap, and no one would argue that
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: more than me. But everybody's got a budget and there's
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: only so much cash that you can hand out to
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: everybody at the same time. It's what we're talking about
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: right here, right now with with gonzal You know, if
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: AJ Brown comes, what does that do? If anything to
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: Gonzales and then in turn next year to Drake May.
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: They're they're valuable that if you can graft the receiver
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: instead of trade for AJ Brown, then you don't have
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: to put the money towards the receiver. And so I
• 38:53
  Speaker 6: think that that's why receivers, you know, everybody always talks
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: about like the day two receivers, like who's going to
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: be the diamond in the rough, doesn't happen as often
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: because the value of the contract, like the rookie contract
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: on a stud receiver is just great return on investment. Yeah,
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: And I think the Patriots are in a position where
• 39:13
  Speaker 6: that's why I would like to see them go in
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: that direction. Like tackle, I think is another one too,
• 39:17
  Speaker 6: because they don't come to free agency like the good
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: starting tackles usually don't hit the market, so you have
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: to be able to get those through the draft. But
• 39:25
  Speaker 6: you can find those tackles that we talked about Kat
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: and McDonald for five minutes, like Kiris Tongo was a
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: pretty good nose tackle for this team last year and
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: did the job. So I need to draft Kadd McDonald
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: in the first round to play a rotational role in
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: forty five.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: I really agree with your premium position theory. Yeah.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: I mean it's not just money too. It's that if
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: you have really good talented players that those select spots,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: you're probably gonna be okay, you know, Whereas if you
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: have the greatest right guard in history, you're gonna need
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: more than that.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: You know, Zach's in New Hampshire.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Hey, Zach, thanks.
• 39:58
  Speaker 7: Taking my call.
• 40:01
  Speaker 10: I was just wondering do you think Rabel would bet
• 40:04
  Speaker 10: on TJ. Parker's twenty twenty four cape or his twenty
• 40:07
  Speaker 10: twenty five cape. And then also I saw Lanceer lines
• 40:11
  Speaker 10: comp for Gabe Akis is Matt Judon. I was just
• 40:13
  Speaker 10: wondering if you guys saw that in him as well.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I see him a little more loose
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: and athletic than Judon's. You don't kind of big and stiff,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: kind of stand up guy. See a little more flexibility
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: explosiveness out of him.
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I could see that. I think act is a
• 40:29
  Speaker 6: better run defender. But Judon I think did.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: That, you know, sort of.
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: They gave him sort of freedom to just rush the
• 40:38
  Speaker 6: passer and get up the field when he was here
• 40:40
  Speaker 6: just as Yeah, so I don't know if that ju
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: don't got.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: Some speed though, he's got some explosiveness.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Good edge Russia. Yeah, that first year that he was
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: here in twenty one, he did.
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I can see the motor like the look of
• 40:53
  Speaker 6: it being similar to Akis.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Who is the other guy he asked about? TJ.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Parker had a Clemson here you go?
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, is that a back of the envelope?
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: Guy, I haven't done my envelope yet.
• 41:06
  Speaker 6: You got to ask yourself that question about it. Basically,
• 41:08
  Speaker 6: all the clubs and guys, you know, Peter Woods, Terrell Parker,
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: all those guys had better twenty fours. The program had
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: a bad year in twenty twenty five. So you can
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: blame the program if you want, and blame the program
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: going the run direct, Yeah, you can blame twenty four.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Who bar loves to Orange?
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: No, I haven't, mostly because it doesn't fit anymore.
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that that program is going south.
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: So maybe you just think that they had a bad
• 41:35
  Speaker 6: year and it, you know, affected everybody, including TJ. Parker,
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: and he had half as many sacks as he had
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: in twenty four and as he did in twenty five.
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: So it's a it's a good question. I think.
• 41:47
  Speaker 6: I I normally don't put a ton of stock into
• 41:50
  Speaker 6: underclassman tape because like, I'm not drafting the guy that
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: played two years ago. I'm drafting the guy that just
• 41:56
  Speaker 6: ended his season in you know, December or January. So
• 41:59
  Speaker 6: I put a lot more emphasis on the twenty five tape.
• 42:01
  Speaker 6: But I would other people do it differently.
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: But I think you also have to do you have
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: to do some research to figure out context. Yeah, and
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: I know a lot of people this doesn't mean it's true,
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: but a lot of people with that particular player for Clemson,
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: we're talking about how much more attention he got last
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: year than he did the year before. I'm with it
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: with Evan, like, if you're good, you're going to get attention.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: And you bet it.
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so you need to show that you can you
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: can prove that you can handle you know, extra blockers
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: and be able to still be productive. That's the difference
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: between the really good players average.
• 42:35
  Speaker 6: Would be like if you transferred, like if you transferred schools.
• 42:39
  Speaker 6: You know, Jordan Addison was a big one. He played
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: at Pitt in a USC. He was a better player
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: at Pitt than he was at USC. And so a
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: lot of people were like, we gotta go back and
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: watch the pit tape because the pit tape is better.
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: But if there's they're at the same school year to year,
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: I tend to kind of go with the most recent.
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: I get that one right, right? Was he one of
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: those guys that everybody talked about last year?
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: You got double team the whole year? And kind of
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: I mean maybe.
• 43:08
  Speaker 6: Like Peter Woods and k part were both in the inside,
• 43:11
  Speaker 6: like they had players like on that defensive line besides him.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: I might be confusing and with someone else, but I.
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: Just don't I think that I wouldn't really buy that because.
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: Oh, I like I said, I, if you're good, you're
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: gonna get double teamed.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that you can be productive.
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: Like Peter was going to be a top fifty player.
• 43:29
  Speaker 6: Kp Art their other defensive tackle is going to get drafted.
• 43:31
  Speaker 6: So they had other NFL players on that defensive line
• 43:34
  Speaker 6: besides just TJ.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Parker.
• 43:36
  Speaker 6: So you know, maybe it wasn't the guy on the
• 43:38
  Speaker 6: other side, you know that was you know, the edge
• 43:40
  Speaker 6: rusher on the other side. Maybe it wasn't as good
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: of a player. I don't remember, but I'm kind of
• 43:45
  Speaker 6: a lukewarm on him.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: Okay, what does he have to say? Christian in La?
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: What's going on?
• 43:52
  Speaker 11: You got?
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: So?
• 43:56
  Speaker 12: I was thinking two questions too, main questions in a
• 43:59
  Speaker 12: statement question, one being what I think you guys said,
• 44:03
  Speaker 12: what position? If we don't address, we're gonna we could
• 44:06
  Speaker 12: transit to losses. But a better question for me is
• 44:09
  Speaker 12: what key positions do you guys feel that if we
• 44:12
  Speaker 12: could level up would translate into wins? You know, better
• 44:16
  Speaker 12: translate into wins. And then a secondarily, if you guys
• 44:22
  Speaker 12: somehow we came up with some miracle plans to trade
• 44:24
  Speaker 12: up into the top ten, which player would you guys get?
• 44:28
  Speaker 12: Those are my Those are my two questions. And then
• 44:31
  Speaker 12: from a statement standpoint, do you think they would add
• 44:35
  Speaker 12: something like double teams to the statistics tracking of defensive linemen?
• 44:41
  Speaker 12: Like on the inside, they don't get a lot of
• 44:42
  Speaker 12: love to what they do, especially if they don't get
• 44:44
  Speaker 12: a lot of sacks and stuff. But I think it
• 44:46
  Speaker 12: should count like towards their statistics if they get double teams.
• 44:50
  Speaker 12: And you guys had just touched on the So those
• 44:52
  Speaker 12: are my my Tuesday questions. Love you guys, love the show.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: Let's go past all right?
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: They do track double teams now on a place like
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: PFF and next Gen stuff like that. You can next
• 45:04
  Speaker 6: Gen you can look and see how many raw double teams,
• 45:08
  Speaker 6: you know, total double teams, percentage of double teams, chips,
• 45:11
  Speaker 6: you know, if they're getting chip help against them a lot.
• 45:14
  Speaker 6: They have all that kind of stuff. Now, cool.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: So his first question, what position, if you could get
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: to the next level on it would.
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: Help you the most wide receiver?
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: It seems like that's the logical answer, right, Yeah, I
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: mean I can't. I mean, edge would be something, but yeah,
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: I think wide receiver would have more of a every
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: play kind of impact.
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: Like think of some of these wide receivers that have
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: come into the league like Gangbusters over the last say
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: five years. If you could inject one of those kinds
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: of players into the offense and all of a sudden
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: you had like a twelve hundred yard receiver thirteen hundred
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: yard receiver, ten touchdown guy for Drake May which then
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: slots everybody else behind that guy. That's an immediate impact
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: in your.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: Off Ted McMillan, right, I mean that's one Evan's been
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: bringing up. I mean, that's a great guy for Drake,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: really athletic, and combine him with what they have even
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: long term you look at him with maybe Kyle Williams and.
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: Dobbs, that's a pretty good start your guy, Nabbers. I mean,
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: if you could just take a guy like that, you know,
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: I would say Abuca from last year, you know, until
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: he pulled his hamstring and he kind of tailed out.
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: He was kind of really non productive the second half
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: of the year. But that is immeasurable, like to have
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: someone come in and hit the ground. And do you know, Mike,
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: I know you were doing a lot of research on
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: ninety six.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: You know what Terry Glenn did.
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know for a good for a good offense,
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: and it made it a really really good offense.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: Ye, Melvin's in Utah. Is this our Melvin or another Melvin?
• 46:52
  Speaker 10: Probably?
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: Oh? Yes, it turn it up a little bit.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: Matt.
• 46:57
  Speaker 13: I just wanted to say two things, Uh, Fred I'm
• 47:02
  Speaker 13: glad you're back. It's good to have a real ball
• 47:03
  Speaker 13: and now we're back on the show.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: Okay, thank you, Okay, I know that's I know you're
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: you're being starcastic, all right.
• 47:11
  Speaker 13: And the second thing was, I don't get how Dante
• 47:16
  Speaker 13: high Tower took fifth and Hall of Fame voting behind
• 47:20
  Speaker 13: Logan Mankins and west Woker when he was like far
• 47:23
  Speaker 13: more important to the team.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: Really, you don't get I I think that's totally uh
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: in line my opinion.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: I missed it. I'm sorry.
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: Well, how could high Tower take fifth?
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: In well, Patrin's voted.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: He didn't really take fifth. I mean, he was just nominated.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: There were you know, it wasn't like an order thing.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: There were certain people nominated and spoken.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: I only know about three.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: But well, I don't know how I got out there,
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: but what he's talking about, But let's just say he
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: did for argument's sake. I could see Mankins and Welker
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: being ahead of him.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: Well we talked about him just being brought up and
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: being mentioned as you know somebody. It was his first
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: year of ELI.
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: I think there were eight guys nominated. You only know
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: about the top three. Those are the finalists.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: How would you know?
• 48:09
  Speaker 6: I think I think it was just when we were
• 48:12
  Speaker 6: talking about it, it was kind of assumed that it
• 48:14
  Speaker 6: was those four or five guys in High Tower. We
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: kind of made it sound like High Tower was fifth
• 48:21
  Speaker 6: on that list. I understand why they think.
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: Okay, thanks Melvin. I'm getting a lot of heat from
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: people who say I'm being hypocritical in my stance on
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: vinitary because when Belichick, you know, I was so adamant
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: about Belichick should get in right away because he's that
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: much better than anyone else. And I stand by that,
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: And yes, Gronk should get in right away, but so
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: should Adam Vinitari. He should get in right away. But
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: bull shit, Adam. You know Gronk's the best tight end ever. Well,
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: I think Adam's the best kicker ever. You know, a
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: kicker verse tight end, what.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Listen.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: I don't think I'm being hypocritical in my stance on Vinitari,
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: and especially when you're comparing it to my stance on Belichick.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: I think not that the.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: Patriots missed the boat or that the committee missed the boat.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: Brady was alone that year, so he didn't get in.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: He wasn't available to get in last year. But I
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: think you just put in minitary. Now he's gonna be
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: He's already a Pro Football Hall of Famer. I don't
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: think that contradicts what I was saying about Belichick.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: Sorry, no, you know, we kind of landed on on Thursday,
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: which I don't know why. It kind of just dawned
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: on me to look at it this way. But it's like,
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: right now you're reaping what you sewed for twenty years
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: of like the greatest run in maybe professional sports history.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: So like this problem of having too many people to
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: put into the Hall of Fame, it's a pretty unique
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: problem and one that I don't think needs to have
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: all these different rule changes in there to accommodate that,
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: because eventually it will catch up. Yeah, and eventually it
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: will all of allow. You're just you're suffering because you
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: were so blessed to have so many great players and
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: win so much right now that you gotta kind of
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: sort it out. Guy's got to be patient, but yeah,
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: That's what it is. So but judging from the the
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: blowback that I got, I think fans are going to
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: vote for Gronk. They're not going to listen to me.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: So, but maybe cooler heads will prevail, and Gronk was
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: made for the patients the tone.
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: Cooler heads will Yeah, so you're a hothead, right if
• 50:27
  Speaker 5: you don't see it the way he does, that's r.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: Cooler heads will prevail. That's right, that's fair. Yep.
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: David Mayne h. David Mayne says, Evan, could you explain
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: one more time why taking Chris Brazel at thirty one
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: is a bad idea? He six' four ran a four
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: to three. Seven Imagine booty on one, end In brazil
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: on the other and they both run a go route
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: And drake throws to whoever is more, open Aj brown
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: who six years from, now we'll have to listen to
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: everyone saying how we should trade three first For brazil
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: because we still don't have that number one. Receiver it's
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: gonna be. Insufferable, yeah be a little.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Rich it's.
• 51:07
  Speaker 6: INTERESTING I i think it depends on how you're looking at,
• 51:12
  Speaker 6: it you. KNOW I i look At Chris brasel as
• 51:15
  Speaker 6: a guy that Fits drake may like a. Glove and
• 51:19
  Speaker 6: if you're looking at the draft in like from a
• 51:21
  Speaker 6: bird's eye view where you're you're not drafting for a specific,
• 51:24
  Speaker 6: team then, like, NO i would not Have Chris brasel
• 51:27
  Speaker 6: as like my number one wide receiver in the, draft
• 51:30
  Speaker 6: but specifically where The patriots are drafting and the type
• 51:34
  Speaker 6: of RECEIVER i want to see them pair With Drake.
• 51:36
  Speaker 6: MAY i just think that he fits the mold the
• 51:39
  Speaker 6: best out of this.
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: Group, now some people think he's.
• 51:43
  Speaker 6: Raw you, know he doesn't have like the full route
• 51:45
  Speaker 6: tree down yet and all that different type of.
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: Stuff you, know some people are a little bit concerned
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: about the.
• 51:50
  Speaker 6: Frame you, know he's six,' four he's one hundred and ninety,
• 51:53
  Speaker 6: five pounds so he's Not Quite taekwon, thornton light but.
• 51:55
  Speaker 6: He's not he doesn't have great play straight and great
• 51:59
  Speaker 6: you know ass on the. Frame either, but again, it's,
• 52:03
  Speaker 6: LIKE well i keep, repeating myself it's exactly the conversation
• 52:05
  Speaker 6: we Had With. Alec Pierce Is alt piers the best receiver?
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: In?
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: Football no is he a really good?
• 52:11
  Speaker 6: Deep threat and do you have a quarterback that throws
• 52:14
  Speaker 6: a really good deep ball and does? The cut is
• 52:16
  Speaker 6: the fit makes sense with the two of. Them, Together
• 52:18
  Speaker 6: YEAH and i think the same Thing. About, brasil Now
• 52:20
  Speaker 6: If dame bruger ends up being right and he has
• 52:23
  Speaker 6: brazl in like the. Third round then they can draft
• 52:25
  Speaker 6: him at sixty three and we can all, be happy,
• 52:27
  Speaker 6: you KNOW like i think he's going to go higher.
• 52:29
  Speaker 6: Than that, you know you don't a six point four
• 52:31
  Speaker 6: receiver that runs a four to three and balls out
• 52:33
  Speaker 6: in the sec getting outside the top like sixty picks,
• 52:37
  Speaker 6: to me is just doesn't happen.
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: Very often But if, dane's right.
• 52:41
  Speaker 6: Then cool now we can get him at ninety Five
• 52:43
  Speaker 6: and i'll, be happy and you know they'll get.
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  Speaker 1: It's amazing some of these guys just have such, good size,
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  Speaker 1: YOU know, I mean i mean bronze is six thirty
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  Speaker 1: From Like cole strange to, You Know jared wilson isn't
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  Speaker 1: the biggest kind of. A guy but what do you
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  Speaker 1: guys think makes sense in?
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  Speaker 2: This position?
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: Is this is this, a hey there's a guy that
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: we love that we think could, YOU know i don't
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: know if he's going to start, this year, but yeah
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: it's the third round, right now and maybe this is
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: a little rich for a spot that we're not, taking
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: it but we love. This guy is it crazy to
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: think they could tap this class of that, YOU said.
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  Speaker 6: I would say that that, for me it starts in the,
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  Speaker 6: round guy, you know like one of The guys CHRIS
• 57:38
  Speaker 6: and i were talking about is probably going to be right.
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  Speaker 6: In there if you want somebody that has a little
• 57:41
  Speaker 6: bit more passed, protection upside maybe it's like A cage
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  Speaker 6: Casey or zoom and.
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: The Guy that. Paul mentioned those guys have, you know
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  Speaker 4: we're college tackles that are going to, move inside so
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  Speaker 4: they might be a little bit better. Pass protectors but
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  Speaker 4: if you draft a guy at.
• 57:54
  Speaker 6: One, twenty five one, thirty one then you make the
• 57:57
  Speaker 6: argument that he backs up right, this year, you know
• 58:01
  Speaker 6: kind Of Pushes ben brown in, that role and then
• 58:04
  Speaker 6: next year maybe he takes Over for Mike. ON wanhu
• 58:07
  Speaker 6: i think drafting anybody a little bit higher, than that
• 58:09
  Speaker 6: there's probably other needs and not necessarily, the best, you
• 58:12
  Speaker 6: know allocation. Of RESOURCES but i do think we need
• 58:15
  Speaker 6: to keep in Mind At Elijah vera tucker, gets hurt,
• 58:18
  Speaker 6: you know he has an.
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: Injury history do You Trust.
• 58:21
  Speaker 6: Ben brown to be the guy if he goes down
• 58:24
  Speaker 6: for a, you know long period, Of time and if
• 58:27
  Speaker 6: he does go Down And ben brown has to go
• 58:29
  Speaker 6: into the, starting lineup then who's Backing Up?
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: Ben? Brown yeah nobody?
• 58:32
  Speaker 16: Right?
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: NOW right, i mean there's there's NO depth, i mean
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: and that's, you know not we're not getting the center
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: just Yet Because, jerry wilson Second Year, ben brown they.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: Resigned him he's got center experience. As well but, you know,
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: Right Now ben brown's really the only backup for those
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: three spots everywhere, you know, you need you need to find.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: A guy, You know i'm almost a little surprised they
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: didn't add, you know a veteran Other Than, via tucker
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: just to pad.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: Their depth a, little bit, You, KNOW yeah i mean it's.
• 58:55
  Speaker 17: Just supporting you got To Give ben brown a lot
• 58:57
  Speaker 17: of credit for what he's been able to do to
• 58:59
  Speaker 17: kind of, come in.
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: Sort of be this shield For, the patriots especially.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: As as he jumped right in and like started that week, last.
• 59:06
  Speaker 17: Year years or two, years ago like you just somebody
• 59:08
  Speaker 17: you can rely on if you. Need help but it's
• 59:11
  Speaker 17: that long term ability THAT you, i mean we haven't
• 59:13
  Speaker 17: Fully seen, ben bround especially at a differ position other,
• 59:16
  Speaker 17: than center where he played a lot in twenty. Twenty
• 59:17
  Speaker 17: four so, you know you want to See the patriots
• 59:22
  Speaker 17: maybe start to.
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: Think about that a little bit more as we've been.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: Talking about, BUT.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah i Talked To, david andrews WHO sorry i Talked
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: To david andrews At the dropt party and he just
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: Brought Up ben brown out, of nowhere, just saying really
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: like the player thought, he was, you KNOW just i
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: know he's not, you know. The man but those are
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: valuable guys.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: And it's maybe a spot where they're a little light.
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 59:38
  Speaker 6: Now yeah the one GUY that i, would say like
• 59:39
  Speaker 6: if they were going to go a little, bit higher
• 59:41
  Speaker 6: Like tearing In, from northwestern interest ME because.
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: I think he's probably a little bit too small to.
• 59:46
  Speaker 6: Play tackle he had thirty two in a quarter, inch
• 59:49
  Speaker 6: arms so he's not he's below, the threshold but he's got,
• 59:52
  Speaker 6: tackle feet he's got a.
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: Tackle feel is he a type of guy that is
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: going to?
• 59:57
  Speaker 6: Play guard but in a pinch if you, had injury
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 6: is there something you could kick him outside and he
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 6: could survive out? At tackle so maybe he would give
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 6: you some, Of that like he's a, starting guard but
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 6: he's there a backup right tackle and that flexibility might.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: Be enough, You KNOW dunker i think needs to. Play
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: guard he's, too clunky his feet are, too slow not good.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: Enough athlete he's going to have to.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 6: Play guard so at Least, tearing in even though he's
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 6: a little bit. Shorter armed, YOU know i think you
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 6: could probably survive a game, or two or, you know
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 6: a handful, of games kind of like how they kick
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 6: one outside every once in.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: A while is that worth the value to?
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: Do?
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: That maybe but he probably.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: Goes.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 5: INTERESTING yeah I mean i kind of LOOK when i go,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 5: down here, AND again i don't study.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: This stuff it's not, you know it's not.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 5: MY forte i look, at schools, you know and you
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 5: know when you Brought, UP dunker i looked.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: At him because he Went. To iowa.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 5: It's a program that you know that THAT produces Nfl
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 5: Lineman Notre Dame kid shrout is how you pronounced? That
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 5: One Billy, billy schreuth.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: You know a Captain At.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 5: NOTRE dame i don't know that these guys are athletic
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 5: enough to make, the TRANSITION but i look at schools,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 5: and programs. You know and That's why evan's always ON
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 5: the bc Lineman Because, boston college, you know for all the,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 5: afflaw as they PRODUCE a. Nfl lineman yeah. They DO
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 5: so i kind of look at guys, like that AND
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 5: then i try to figure out if maybe there's a
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: spot in day three that, you know you can pick
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 5: a guy like that up if.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 6: You want ten Seconds On logan taylor because he Brought
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 6: Up boston. College player, so yeah so he played four
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 6: out of five Positions At boston college everything butt center
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 6: during his. Career, There, slacker well, he, yeah right AND
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 6: so i think that he's going to be an.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: Interior player we were at the draft Party.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 6: LAST sunday i actually talked To coach scarr about him
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 6: because he's working with Coach scarnekia as Along With. Jude
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 6: bowry the two of them are working On with scar
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 6: in the pre draft process together and he really.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: Likes them he thought, that he, you know has a.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 6: Future, probably inside but maybe even at tackle as.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: A Backup and scar was pretty high.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 6: On HIM and i usually take that guy's word for
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 6: it when it comes the, offensive linemans. SO too i
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 6: think he's a little bit higher cut, for guards and,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 6: you know comes in a little bit high kind of
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 6: blocks like, a tackle but plays like a guard in
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 6: terms of.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: His movement so that's going to be a little bit of.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 6: A tweeter but he's one of those guys you know that,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 6: sixth round probably a fifth or sixth round that you
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 6: could get that you're probably developing as.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: A backup.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 6: You know it is a kind of Like A ben
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 6: brown super sub type. Of player but those are, extremely valuable,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 6: you know in the league.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: To have guys.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 6: Like that so one OTHER guard i just would throw
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 6: out THERE because i know a Lot of patriots fans talk,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 6: about Him Is michael Morris, from georgia who is just
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 6: another massive dude with a great, athleticism profile had a.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: Great combine, you know those are the types of.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 6: Guys that when we start getting into the end of
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 6: the draft that you're just betting, on traits, you know
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 6: and those are some of those trades.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: Based guys just quickly just circling Back.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 6: To dunker if they Hadn't Signed Elijah, VERA tucker i
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 6: would have been pounding the table for them The Draft
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 6: jennings dunker to play. Left guard but now that They Have,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 6: vera tucker probably not as pressing of a need to
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 6: draft a guy on day two as a backup to.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 6: The interior but even though we said that he can't,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 6: play tackle don't Like getting dunker is an.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: Awesome player he's a really.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 6: Physical guy he's going to set a tone in the,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 6: run game like having Him And will campbell next to
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 6: each other would have been a lot. Of fun but
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 6: he's going to go too high for you know what.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 6: They need they need backups and, developmental guys not plug and.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 6: Play starters, all.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: RIGHT well i think that's going to do it for.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: This one the offensive line breaking.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: It down you don't, get centers, no center.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: No centers now do that on.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: Your OWN te i mentioned one center.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: Real quick catch twenty two centers.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 6: Really Quickly brian Parker from duke played Tackle.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: At duke some think.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 6: He's going to be all moved all the way inside.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 6: The center but this is a guy that probably could,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 6: play tackle guard. Or center probably, Not tackle i'd probably rule, that.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: Out but at least.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 6: Garden center so if you're looking for somebody that has
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 6: some versatility and has some upside in, the interior he's
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 6: just another NAME that i think was. Worth mentioning, it's
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 6: funny like you always these places and some people think he's.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 6: A GUARD some i think he's. The center like he
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 6: played tackle IN the acc at a high level and
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 6: we'removing him all the way inside. The center it's. Pretty
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 6: crazy but he's one of the centers that might have
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 6: some like center.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: Guard, Flexibility there.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: I'm done, All, right well that's going to do It.
• 1:04:17
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• 1:04:21
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• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: Talk about tight ends and running back will be a.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: GOOD one.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: I know evan's really high on this running. Back class,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: great class. Just kidding we'll see then.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: And now great moments. IN history i.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 5: Think it's so easy to rebuild IN the nfl because
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 5: of free agency and the salary cap, being garbage in
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 5: the non guaranteed nature of the contracts and build's dominance
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 5: over the rest of the league that in, two years
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 5: Provided that jared st didn't can walk from here to
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 5: there without, falling down they can win.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: THE age i wish the salary cap was garbage because
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: then we could Just resign brady.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: And rebuilt you Can resign brady if you want to
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: and not re you don't want to and.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: Not, rebuild yes you could do whatever. You want they
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: don't want to do that because they're.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: Too old you can't.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: Do it they don't want to roll this. Team.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: Back brown you can't rebuild And.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: Sign, brady, yeah no, You, can't right.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 5: You can't that's correct because you're not rebuilding if You,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 5: signed brady you're.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: Too old you can bring back the same Team with
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: brady if. You want didn't, say that you said you
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: can't rebuild And. Sign brady.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 5: THAT'S right, i, agree right because you don't rebuild with
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 5: a forty three year old quarterback because he's.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: Too old.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: That's another great moment from.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: All right back Here On PATRIOT'S unfiltered a five to
• 1:05:41
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• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: Dot com it's the. Email address, of course we're talking,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: draft here taking your calls. And emails WHAT else i.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: HAD something i wanted to?
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 5: Bring out did you guys think it was odd yesterday
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 5: the amount of Attention That morgan moses got every.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 6: Single time these guys, are available combine, Owners Meetings, Elliott, wolf.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah yesterday does somebody Like Think morgan moses?
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 5: Is?
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: Retiring like is there LIKE so i?
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: Wasn't, Alone, no no that's not like every off season.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 6: Check, IN yeah i get the guys, thirty five but
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 6: they've already said multiple times that.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: He's well obviously a lot of people did a lot
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: of research on possible, right tackles and so they have
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: to ask the, question no.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: But, oh oh a little piece of your? Chicken NUGGY
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: should i? Get you.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 5: Sort of separating from the draft NEED because i still
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 5: think that you can make an Argument like mike did
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 5: at the top of the show about, you know a
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 5: tackle and waiting or, third tackle you know at. Thirty
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 5: ONE but i just thought it, Was, odd hey that
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 5: the question was.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: ASKED yesterday i thought that was a.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 5: FOREGONE conclusion, I mean I think rabel was on record
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: as saying they've already established a plan for him for. The,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 5: summer yeah the question was do you expect him to
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 5: play in?
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: Twenty six, i'm. Like huh and then not only that
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: THAT that i thought.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 5: Was surprising that was one of the sort of takeaways
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 5: from a lot. OF people i heard it in a
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 5: lot of like a lot of the sports. Updates today
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 5: you Know That mogan moses will indeed be back, Next
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 5: year like when was that?
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: In?
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 5: Question, YEAH now i know things can, always change and
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 5: maybe someone who's asking the question is operating with. Some
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 5: information maybe he heard that there was some inkling that
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 5: he was having second thoughts. Or WHATEVER but i just
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 5: thought it was strange the amount Of Attention morgan moses
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 5: got yesterday that, Draft, Press.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Poort morgan moses gonna have to show up at
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 6: mandatory mini camp for people to believe that he's.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: You're here wasn't one?
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: Of them wasn't there one of Those false facebook things
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: that he?
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: Was retiring there.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 5: Was Something, on twitter a fake Account on twitter Attributed To,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 5: mike giardi To Which mike giardi, immediately said this. Isn't
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 5: me that's what, it was you, Know whatever but that was. Weeks,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 5: ago yeah like that. Was fake some of these guys they've.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: Talked about, It SINCE like I just i, DON'T know
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: i don't. Get, it yeah that's.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 6: Weird things it's one of those weird things EXACTLY that
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 6: i feel like you just need to keep confirming at
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 6: every CHECKPOINT because i, get, it like if he's going,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 6: to retire then tackle now becomes maybe the biggest need on.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 6: The team but they keep telling us he's. Not retiring
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 6: so but it's interesting.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: Listening to paul talk because they are going to manage
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: him again, this summer and it makes me realize that
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: there are opportunities there that if you were to draft a,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: right tackle Maybe It's, james hudson the veteran that. They
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: signed but if it is a rookie that they're gonna
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: be opportunities for him to get in there to get
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: a chance, to play, you know in during, you know.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: Training camp so that might be a way to trying
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: to figure out how to get guys involved and get,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: Them IN like, i mean there might be an opportunity
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: right out of, the.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 6: Gate especially for some of these guys that need, Them
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 6: developing like if they do drafty on, A chore like
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 6: that's a guy that a lot of people think might
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 6: need a red. Shirt year like it's kind of the
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 6: perfect Situation, For IANACHOR like i.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: Don't KNOW if i love that he's not. Gonna play but.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: That's why Even if miller was there at, thirty one
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: would you consider like maybe a trade down and then
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: just Go, With yeah miller.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 6: Is definitely the, you know he made like fifty something
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 6: odd starts in College, at clemson so like he's definitely
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 6: ready to play as, a rookie whereas theanotor is, the upside,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 6: you know Talent Grab but i'd say the same thing
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 6: with about a lot of these guys that are gonna
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 6: be later in. The draft, YOU know i think a
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 6: Guy like cronover for has like fallen the board a
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 6: little bit as we get closer and just you got
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 6: like thirty six, Inch arms like he's just a, huge
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 6: dude big, time power but needs. Some seasoning like a
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 6: lot of those guys in the middle. Rounds too could
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 6: use like a full trading Camp Where morgan moses is. Just,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 6: chilling yeah and you get like ninety percent of the
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 6: reps in training camp And Then morgan moses is, you
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 6: know plays as.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: A rookie Uh Don and philly has that evergreen question
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: as of four, to fourteen what Are the patriots doing the?
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: First round what position and what player or trade up?
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: And down so what are they going? To do what's on?
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: YOUR madra i know you receiver two?
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: POINT oh i think receiver released your, Big.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 4: Board yes the big board, is, out yeah.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: RECEIVER edge i think those are the POSITIONS if i
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: had to bet on you have a player one of.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: Those ones who's who's on your Matra.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: Like boston Receiver like bostel at Edge and miller. A.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: TACKLE yeah i have a different question. For you two
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: draft experts said that.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: VERY sarcastically.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: I did i'm glad you caught.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 5: The tone is there a guy sort of That screams patriot.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: To you.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 5: You know sometimes there's like one of those GUYS that
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 5: i don't know when in, day three but they're going
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 5: to pick.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: This guy he. Played, lacrosse.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah back in the old something like that guy would.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: Have been he's from someone that, just screams well that's,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: a pain that's a. Rable guy. He's Good the patriots
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: are going to. Take him Look.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: AT ohio i just need the number of edges that
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: kind of play with, you know not the specific one where,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: you know maybe you get into, the NUANCE but i
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: think there's a bunch of different edges that play with
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: that kind of style that. That fits sorry not to answer. Your,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: QUESTIONS yeah, i mean but that's a position and off the.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: BALL linebacker i think there's a lot of guys that
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: are smaller and can run and, you know have that
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: kind of field general style that maybe Could replace. Robert's
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: PLAYING but i, don't know it's a. GOOD question i
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: mean we Joked about Hide, and Wright the. Navy kid
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: bill would have drafted. Him second he would have been
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: the one that's kind.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: Of what i'm, talking about something that we Know like bill.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 4: Would, be yeah we had more of like a sample
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: size of more than ONE.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 5: Draft a mike is saying the thing about The, Edge rusher, i'm,
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 5: THINKING like i Look At howard Landry And calevon chasing is.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 5: Very different so, Even then i'm like thinking, to myself
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 5: there's a lot of guy like the way you, said
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 5: that there's a lot of GUYS that i, could see, you,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 5: KNOW like i don't Know what chase style, that is
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 5: which one More Like.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: CHASE on i think it's it's a, Good. QUESTION paul
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: i think you you look at the Guys Like chase
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: on that are obvious that you just get off. The
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: ball he's gonna fly into the backfield harder to find
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: that other side where maybe he's a little, more, stout maybe,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: you know like and THAT'S where i think we get
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: into the debate. Of size, You know elliott was asked about.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: That too there's, you Know The zion youngs of. The
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: world they are bigger guys that could maybe, you know
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: be a little bit more suited on.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: The offenses so let me ask kind of a it's
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: kind of the SAME question i, asked earlier but with
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: a little bit. More focus if you just look at
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: last year's playoff run And The super. Bowl game what
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: position would you want to upgrade just for those games.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: That you saw?
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: Past, PROTECTION yeah i mean, left position, left tackle, Left, TACKLE.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah I MEAN i i Assume That will campbell, was
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 6: HURT so i give to. That caveat but, left, guard,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 6: LEFT yeah i think the left side of.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: The okay and he was sacked more than any player
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: in history in, The PLAYOFFS so, i mean that's an.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: Easy way but they.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 6: Already did that's an easier ANSWER than. I thought they
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 6: already addressed One With. Vera tucker and then you Hope that, campbell's,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 6: healthy yeah, you know and that and improves he plays
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 6: like he did in the first fourteen weeks of the
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 6: season instead of when he.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: Came.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 6: Back right answer your question though about vrabel guys on,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 6: DAY three a couple guys that come to my little.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 6: Earlier actus to me is like they they the word
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 6: that they use so consistently in the defense, Is violence
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 6: like they want guys to just play with like a
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 6: mean streak and.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 4: A violence and gay back Is? From illinois is that?
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: IS that i? Like him he is a.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 6: Violent dude like he just takes, On blocks he just
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 6: blows people glup in a great way on, the field
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 6: in a, great.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: Way violent but in the.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 6: Good way the other guy that you know on the,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 6: Offensive Line travis Burg, from memphis just another one that
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 6: just he wants to finish you into the ground and
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 6: then when you're on, the ground he's going to finish
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 6: You with.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 5: Was that the felgrim madsk guy Yesterday? WITH barthy i
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 5: don't know it Was A memphis i'm pretty sure there
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 5: Was a.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: Memphis tackle. He's nasty there's not two, of them, ARE
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: they i don't.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 6: Think so he's like six six eight six nine three,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 6: twenty three twenty five and just wants to ruin. Somebody's day,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 6: that guy to me, feels like, you know they wanted to,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 6: get bigger they wanted to, get tougher they wanted to
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 6: get more physical. On offense, you know that's why you
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 6: get a full back and you get, a guard and
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 6: you get a blocking, tight end and free agency might.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 5: BE guys i might Stick with actus GOING because i did.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 5: Like Him mike is that's one of.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 16: The.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: Guys mike mike assigns me some players to watch in a.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: Great Way, sometimes mike, you know he gives.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 5: Me assignments this guy out check this, Guy out let
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 5: me know what, You, think Mike and florida WRITES in
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 5: i have not heard anyone make much of an argument
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 5: for alignment in the first or.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: Second, ROUND really i think we want to beef up
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: the line as much as possible To protect drake. Moving
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: forward given age, and injuries and given what happened in,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: the playoffs defense was less, The ISSUE so, I mean
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: i can make it. Argument Easily, for Also does paul
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: really drive a car with two hundred and eighty? THOUSAND
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: miles i Don't think i've ever met anyone that went
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: higher than one.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: Hundred AND fifty. I had my last car was over.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 5: One hundred this is my second Car that i've gotten over. Two,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 5: Hundred yeah i'm. Second straight my first car was over.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: Two, hundred yeah that happens all. The Time paul's Paul's
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: like kramer.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: On where he's on the running out of running out?
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: Of gas can we just? Keep Going he's he's gonna.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: Milk this for as long as everyone was rock IN
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: the r on, his car, Like, YOU paul a little
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: tribute To the perilla.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: THE car i don't want to name.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 6: The businesses, or ANYTHING because i don't want to blow up.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 6: ANYBODY'S spot i had a very bad experience with, an
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 6: inspection a mechanic with, an inspection and did you? Trigger
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 6: finger the guy claimed that my tires did not my
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 6: front tires didn't didn't.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 4: Pass inspection?
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: Oh god and was? He Right, uh so doesn't matter
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: if he's right. Or wrong we do the.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 6: Penny thing, it's, like so here's. The thing here's. The
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 6: thing if we're gonna, do this we'll. Do it here's.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 6: The Thing so i'm standing outside the garage for twenty
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 6: twenty five minutes as he's doing. The inspection he, then,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 6: says yeah it's. All FINISHED so i come into the
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 6: garage to where his cash register is or whatever. TO
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 6: pay i handed, My money he takes, my money says,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 6: it's finished then tells me that.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 4: It failed.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 6: And so at, THIS point, i said the cars it's
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 6: a twenty, twenty three it's on, a lease it's it's
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 6: got forty five thousand miles.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: On It so, i'm like. That's ridiculous what do you
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: mean it that?
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 4: He, failed no that he. Failed, you yeah. THAT'S ridiculous i,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 4: was like what do you mean it? Didn't, pass like
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 4: what do you mean if? It's failed and, he's, like
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 4: yeah like you need. NEW tires i was. LIKE okay
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 4: i WAS like i was standing out here the. Whole
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 4: time why didn't you come out to me, and, say,
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: hey SORRY like i, YOU know i can't.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 6: Pass it go down, the street get some. New tires,
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 6: come back we'll get you an. Inspection, sticker instead he
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 6: puts THE red r on, the car.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: Which many people have done, for me by, the, way
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: right which means that you have a you have what
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: a week to, get well you have sixty days to
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: get into. Four years but by the letter of, the
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: law it is illegal to drive the car with THE.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: Red r, oh really you had a certain amount of time.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: To go by a.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 6: Letter of, the law it's illegal to drive the car
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 6: with THE. Red R and i live in. THE city
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 6: i don't have A. Red r AND so i there's
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 6: a lot, of cops there's a lot of, meter maids
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 6: there's a lot of people that, you know can give
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 6: me cancite.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 4: The CAR so i had to do and, you. KNOW
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 4: quickly i had to get it DONE because i need
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 4: to be able to drive. The car it's our. Only
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 4: CAR but i was me and THAT guy i.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: WAS living i was what is Really, angry, evan, LIKE
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: oh i.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 4: Was mad he didn't even?
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: Watch film did you use? Cuss?
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 4: Words NO but I mean i had to like walk
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 4: AWAY because, I was i was. REAL mad, I was
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 4: i was.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 6: FIRED up i, was like what do you? You know what
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 6: do you mean that? You failed like you couldn't have just?
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: Told me like it was like the sticker didn't expire
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 4: until the end of.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: The month so what would how would it have helped
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: if he told you ahead? Of time he wouldn't have
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: PUT the r on. The, car oh so you would
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: have pulled out? Right, right no you KNOW what, i
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: mean you would have gotten out. Of, THERE yes i could.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: Have said he could have said, to.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 6: Me, safety first you know it's not going to, Pass
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 6: right or he could have passed it and said go get.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 5: New tires he could have done that and been a really.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 5: Good guy but he could have at the very, least, said.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: Well he can't do that because if you don't get the.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: New tires and they, asked who who who gave you?
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 5: That stick the tire thing isn't one of the like
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 5: there's things that they hook it up to, the computer
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 5: and there's emissions.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: And stuff they can't. Fudge, that yeah you can fudge. The,
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: tires oka like that's not been through these, you know
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: the ins.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: And OITY unfortunately.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 5: I do unfortunately the guy at, twenty no that doesn't
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 5: see again that stuff doesn't.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: Work anymore like.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 5: YOU used i used to go to a very. Specific,
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 5: guy YEAH and i still go to. That guy but
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 5: it can't. Help me that's because my right. It goes
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 5: it has to go in.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 4: The.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: Computer now it just it.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 6: Could have been handled differently where we, could have, you
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 6: know nipped it in the butt a little bit faster
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 6: without PUTTING the r on the car and going.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: To that and what did, he say like why he didn't?
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 6: Do that he wanted to show me that the tires
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 6: weren't going to pass by the little test that they do,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 6: or whatever but like it just wasn't. Handled correctly and
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 6: then he gave me attitude about IT because i Questioned his.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: So they do?
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 5: They do they do the tires with some kind of
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 5: a computerized it's like a little GAUGE that. I, use
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 5: yeah THAT'S what. I, thought YES all i said to
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 5: her was you could have just been a little bit
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 5: more helped me, out here.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: Customer, friendly yes. That's IT so i wasn't asking then break.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 3: Any, laws hey if it's anything other, than missions let
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: me know ahead. Of time go in there and say
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: that to.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 6: The guy and then the other thing that he said, to
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 6: me which really was, the kicker which really put me over, the.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: Edge WAS that i needed windshield.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 6: Wiper fluid so he Oh forgot so he failed me
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 6: on the, Wipers too, no, Way yes.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: Oh, come on and this is this guy Doesn't like cast,
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 3: twenty two and this.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 6: Is that's and this is a gas station that sells
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 6: Windshield wiper oh that's.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: That's BAD so i said to, the guy are you kidding?
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: Me it would you still?
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: A failure could you? Five DOLLARS can.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 6: I just go buy some some windshield wiper fluid? And
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 6: see and he, was like well we still have.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: The tires.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 5: That's that's a guy who's not not in. Customers there, oh.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: No and so go. Right here these.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 6: Guys agree the funniest part WAS is i called my
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 6: FATHER because i. WAS screamed i, Was MAD so i
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 6: called my DAD and i, was, like, what like how
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 6: much bullshit? Is This and, he's, like well technically you
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 6: can go back to the same place and they won't
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 6: charge you because you already paid for them. To DO
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 6: but i was not welcome back at. That PLACE so i, Was,
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 6: Like dad i'm gonna have to go. SOMEPLACE else i
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 6: DON'T think i can go back to the.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 5: Same place i've gone To places fred and, THEY like
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 5: i pull it in and they look and, They're like
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 5: i'm not going to hook it up.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: Because you're not going. To pass and this is.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 5: Like That but i'm just giving you an example of
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 5: you don't have to be This.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: Like nark and, you, know yeah help me. Out here
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: you Can be you could be in the customer, service business.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 6: Especially when he hands me the slip where it says
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 6: past past, past past, you know like the, inspection form
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 6: and it's just the tires.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 4: That failed so LIKE all i needed to do was get.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 4: New tires is not, No.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 6: OFFENSE paul a situation where there's ten things to do
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 6: with that are wrong with.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: The car one it was.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 6: Literally one it Was, a winch two front, tires converted
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 6: and Like, in everett as, you know there's there's mechanic,
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 6: body shops tire places all the way down, The line
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 6: like there's ONE that i could throw a football and
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 6: hit a town fair tire, you know like it's they're
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 6: all up. And down so it would have taken me
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 6: a couple of hours to go get new tires and
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 6: come back And.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: Get nobody Beats Town. Fair. Tire nobody i'm still Except.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: For sullivans we Fixed and i'm still.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: Fired up, Yeah responsible, oh Yeah.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 6: We're, Sullivant Sorry Sullivan, town bridgestone and in, ALL seriousness I.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 5: USE sullivan i do this one down one right down
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 5: the street. From me that's why that's. Me too they
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 5: helped me out During The.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: Super bowl did you KNOW that i was trading in.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: MY car i had already planned to, do THIS but
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: i had to wait until like a back from The. Super,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: bowl meanwhile the, Night before i'm planning to Go To.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 3: Santa clara you know that medium that they built in
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 3: the of the. Ring road they put that, and go
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: somebody's going to. Hit that well that's somebody was Me because.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: I'm dummy i'm on my phone and all of, a
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: sudden oh there's the median and went right up on.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: The curb and, YOU know i didn't pop the, city
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: DAMAGE but i HEARD so i made it back to.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: The cave, I'M like i got to get this.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: FIXED before i get Back because i'm trading the car
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 3: IN so i took It to SULLIVAN and, i said there's.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: NO rush i won't be back for. Ten days they
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: took care.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: Of, me.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: No it was there was something that. Broke underneath. DID
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: well i didn't, need one but they took care of
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 3: Me At. Sullivan tire thank you to the Guys at
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 3: sullivan tied down a. Sandwich mask.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: It's a complimentary sniff.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: FOR you i, wonder if meanwhile it. Cost me it
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: cost me another eight hundred bucks to get rid of.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: The car.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 4: How much money do YOU think i just dropped?
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 5: On?
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: There, yeah. Yeah terrible, Let's.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: See james pettig were the Most interesting patriots fan in.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: The world RIGHTS and i seem to remember us Always
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: praising bill for drafting a year too early against. The
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: position how do we get back to that? Attitude situation
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 3: Was it bill stacking drafts or just another Example of
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: Tom covering?
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: Bill's? Risks, both YEAH but, I agree but we had a.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 5: Good, roster yeah you had A super bowl, caliber ROSTER
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 5: which i think that, you know they're working towards, YOU
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 5: know i don't think they have a lot of, huge
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 5: needs right now they, have SOME but i think they're working.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: To that that's.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 5: Why one mike brought up the whole possibility of McDonald's
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 5: Right The ohio state.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: DEFENSIVE tackle i don't.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 5: HATE that, i mean that wouldn't be my. First choice
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 5: it probably wouldn't be my top three or. Four choices
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 5: but if you are in a position where you think
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 5: that that is just too much value to, PASS up
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 5: i don't think that that's a bad way to go about.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 5: DOING things i just feel like you do have some
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 5: needs to fill those Teams that bill was best at
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 5: when he was drafting guys a. Year early those Were
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 5: Perennial super bowl teams and if they didn't go To The,
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 5: super bowl they.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: Were going TO The.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 5: Afc championship and maybe this team will. Be that, you
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 5: know they'll go right back TO The afc championship again.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 5: This year but, YOU know i wouldn't be surprised if
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 5: they're not at that.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: Level, yet mike you need a correction in your top.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: Ten board you HAVE. A j halsey as Going. To
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 3: houston he WENT. To lsu He's. From houston he WENT, to,
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 3: lsu though so, he said maybe your editor should look
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: it over. FOR you i was, the editor so HOW would?
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: I know, i mean why are we even? Doing it
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: what are?
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 6: WE doing i do, think that, you know the difference
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 6: in in length, like DEUCE like, i realize is so
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 6: much better at, you know here's like the two sentences
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 6: of what you need to know and me it's like
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 6: so it's.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 5: SIX thou i often, tease you mostly to, your face
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 5: but sometimes when you're, not around and that is one of,
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 5: the Things says evans' mentality with all of this Stuff
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 5: is i'm going to tell you ABSOLUTELY everything i know
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 5: about absolutely every single PLAYER that i. Know correct and
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 5: that's THAT'S how i get that that.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 6: Was Only FIFTY like i could have done that for
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 6: one hundred and. FIFTY guys i cut it.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 5: Off at there's, your Draft, Fred Yeah, histor LAMBERT and
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 5: i had.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: To look back though at some Of these pittsburgh drafts
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: after you Brought. Up freddy sorry this IS but, i
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: mean starting in, Sixty Nine joe green First pick Hall
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: of famer for them overrated nineteen seventy To Get bradshaw
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: Hall of Famer And mel blunt first and, third round
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: So two hall of famers the. Next year next Year they,
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: JackAM second and then they.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: Seventy Two.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: FRANCO harris i mean they're Just drafting hall of famers
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: every single year there from basically except for. Seventy three
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: from sixty nine to seventy fort he had six years
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: where You're getting hall. Of famers it's also like twenty
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: draft picks.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: Per class that's what happens when all of.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 4: Your players that, WAS like i mean like hall of
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 4: fame is a loose term in, this case but this
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 4: that seventy four.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: IS crazy I Mean Lynce wan Hall, of Fame, Jack,
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: At Lambert, John Stalwart Jimmy Allen lin.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 6: Swan might be the guy that deserves it the least
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 6: out of all the guys that we brought Up this Hall.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 3: Of fame Tim, in california would you Rather Draft gabe
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: Jackets Or chris brazil at?
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: Thirty One, acus brasel.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: Draft a tight end or a linebacker at sixty three?
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: Tight end tight end or a linebacker sixty three. Tight
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: end that was the other Thing.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 6: That elliott SAID that i was happy About the day
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 6: Three linebacker like enough of no no.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: Double dip at edge or tight.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 6: END edge i don't think they need to double.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: THE now I think, i mean they get you. Three
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: years they got him in.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: A row i Deal with massachusetts Inspections or california. Emissions,
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 3: TEST oh i.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: Dealt with both of, those Actually and i've had similar.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: Impossible Situations so california has.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: Stricter emissions you.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: Got to get like a like they plug like a
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: thing into.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: Your car. That's why THAT'S how i. Standards, are yeah.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 4: Now they do that, here now but they did That
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 4: in california when we were, living there like, you know.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 4: Years ago now the masschts.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 6: CAUGHT up i do wonder if maybe part of IT
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 6: is i think they are getting stricter about. THE inspections
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 6: i guess they have cameras now in the body shops
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 6: and there's an inspector that comes by and watches tape
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 6: of all of. Your inspections that.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 5: Is true that's why it's harder to fudget watching.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 6: SOME tape i, mean yeah so if they, like bet
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 6: if you've been, the rules like let's say on the two,
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 6: front tires then they could take the license away for
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 6: you to be an. Inspection station SO that i think
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 6: it is a little bit stricter NOW than.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: I mean i had a guy once it, was, like
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: hey take it for a run, real quick like in
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: IT because i guess if you go on the highway
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: and open it up a, little bit it's more likely to.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: Pass EMISSIONS because I think i was kind of on.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: The edge so guys hooking. YOU up i failed one
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: because of tires one time we had to. DO that
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: i had another one was just a. Light out but
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: it was so satisfying to like go to A, car
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: max buy a little, light bulb pop the rear, light out.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: Change it, you know it's not, that hard and they
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: put it. Back in THAT was i felt kind of proud,
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: of myself. YOU know i, felt like there, you go
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: you can. DO that i know some of.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 3: These things you can't just pop.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: That, Out, NO no.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: I couldn't now it take a.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: SCREW out a couple OF screws.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 4: I changed you could change a changed some some rear some.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: REAR lights i wouldn't know how to even get the.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: Thing off oh.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 3: You, start by you hit, the button your recliner lifts. You.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: Up, Something friend, Dinner's ready hold on, Right then.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 3: Jeffrey. And, canada well my wife just informed me that
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 3: we now have tickets to go watch my nephew's high
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 3: school drama on. Draft night, Oh so i'm glad we're.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: Picking late.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 3: We'll play i'd be one hundred percent on board with
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 3: trading back as long as the draft back gets a
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 3: second round pick that is top forty plus.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: Something else, Of, COURSE okay i want to go more
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: than ten. TEN spots i would agree.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 3: With that my question is how many seasons like last
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 3: Year would drake may have to have to qualify for
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 3: a red jacket For The patriots Hall. Of, FAME also
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 3: i split my Votes between Gronk. And, Adam, sorry fred
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 3: that's THE best i. Could do how many seasons like
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 3: last year would he need?
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: To have LIKE five mvp runner up type seasons would?
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 5: THAT be, i mean based on the way it's, going
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 5: now he's probably already In over Overwholker.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 3: OVER manco i think if you're a quarterback who doesn't
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 3: Win A super bowl for, your team you have to
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 3: you have to retire.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 5: As, THAT yeah, i mean in, all seriousness if, he
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 5: has like if he's the starter for ten.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 3: Years but doesn't Win A, super bowl.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: That doesn't Win A super Bowl, Like, drew.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, EXACTLY like i think that's because if he continues
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 5: to be, the starter he didn't, fall, apart right, you
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 5: know he had comparable seasons.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: TO this i was kind of thinking along, This line
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: fred when you brought up the thing, of like what
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: are your what would your expectations be if they had
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: gone like nine to EIGHT and i, was Well then
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: drake pably didn't HAVE an mvp, type SEASON and I
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: think i would be in a much different place so
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: feeling let me, REPHRASE that i don't know HOW sure
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: i am Of what drake, is YET but i have
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: like at least some confidence NOW that i didn't have,
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: last year that like he can play at, a really really.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: High LEVEL but i don't think if we saw that,
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: last year we'd be coming in the season still, being like,
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: you know they were five. Hundred team, you know like
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: maybe it was positive and you, Felt GOOD but i
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: feel a little bit better about what his ceiling might
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: be after last, season then, you know if they had
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: been up and down and he hadn't been. That GOOD
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: but I but i got to see him get back to,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: that level, YOU know.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 6: I FEEL like i feel better about his floor because
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 6: LIKE now i feel like i'd know that they have.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 4: A quarterback is he getting played well enough to carry
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 4: them To A. Super bowl well he didn't the first
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 4: chance he had, at it but that was his. First.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: Chip yeah, you.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 6: KNOW now i FEEL like i for the next five to,
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 6: TEN years i feel like they're not going to have
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 6: to worry.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 4: About Quarterback.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 3: H yeah, i mean ONE thing i am sure about
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 3: is his, athletic ability no doubt. About that the only
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 3: question still is his. Mental processing, you, know like can
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 3: he get better In that?
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: Seattle?
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 3: Game yeah you know two years, from now, same situation
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 3: does he handle?
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: It, better yeah, That's it that's. IT'S great i mean
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: just generally those situations where, you know does he get
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: to a point where he has such confidence in what
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: he's doing that he could, be, calm cool collected within,
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: those moments, you know and able to run the offense
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: in a way that can exploit what the defense, is
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: doing rather than, you know getting caught up and seems
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: like Maybe.
• 1:32:30
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• 1:32:33
  Speaker 3: he says walk all Day For United States, Post office
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 3: so you guys make two hours go, by fast get that.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 2: Mail done is that all day IN The Us post
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: office is? Two? Hours, well no he listens to the
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: show for. Two, Hours oh. I'M sorry I get.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 3: I'm IN The aj brown boat and really think that
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 3: that's a key piece For the patriots offense to take a.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 3: Step forward my, question is is it against the rules
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 3: For the Patriots and eagles just ANNOUNCE THAT. A j
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 3: brown will be Traded in june and they have an
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 3: agreement already.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: In, place yes that's what. EVERYONE says i still don't
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: really understand why you.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 4: Can't designate a trade. Appost, You, NO no.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 5: I, Know THAT but i don't know why people can't
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 5: say that that the parameters of that trade have been.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: Worked, out well you just, do it you don't.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 5: Say, IT no i, Know That but i'm Saying the
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 5: Raiders and ravens just just did that and the world
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 5: Didn't end when the trade ended up not coming.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: To fruition depends, on, yeah right, but no but that.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 5: Was different Know what i'm saying is they made the
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 5: they announced the trade before the start of the, league
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 5: YEAR which i mean technically you can't make any moves
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 5: until the start of.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 3: The way but they had to have an excuse to
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 3: back out, of that which they said was The.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: PHYSICAL no i. Understand.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 5: That yeah my point is they announced the trade when
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 5: you weren't allowed to announce trades, quote unquote you're not
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 5: allowed to during traders during, that period like not the
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 5: start of the, league year and that they. DID it
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 5: i don't really know what the difference between that and.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: This, is yeah but everybody says the, same thing so
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 2: that must. BE illegal, I, agree, WELL.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah i don't think we need to get bogged down
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 6: in by. The semantics is there a chance That on
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 6: may twenty seventh they, might report just like they did with,
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 6: that trade the parameters of a trade, have agreed, you
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 6: Know on, june second they will execute. The, trade SURE
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 6: but i don't think they're going to say it two
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 6: months ahead of. The trade, YOU know i think we're
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 6: still probably too, far away, you know.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 3: From the, eagle standpoint what's the incentive now to do that?
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 3: TRADE early i guess if the deal on the table
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 3: For the patriots is something you don't think that you
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 3: can beat and could go away if, you wait then
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 3: you do. It now but if you think that the
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 3: draft might change things for some teams and whatever we
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 3: think That the patriots are offering could get a, lot.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: Better, then, yeah wait, that's wait.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 6: That's the, to me That's the eagles leverage is that
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 6: they can wait, it out And the patriots might put
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 6: all their eggs IN The aj brown basket and then
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 6: some other team or even if it's not, really real
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 6: they could probably make up some other team is coming
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 6: in and going to swoop in and steal.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: The player.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 6: You know the only other argument would for doing it
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 6: now it would be to get twenty twenty six. Draft
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 6: picks but then you have to eat something.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: NOW that i. Could understand why would?
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 5: Be, illegal yeah you can't get you can't have, Both
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 5: ways like if it's going to be designated for A
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 5: post june, first cut you, know trade then you can't
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 5: then make the trade and get stuff NOW that i.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 5: Would understand but this the FIRST thing i think is.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 5: Probably Interesting the eagles want to wait because you want
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 5: to wait till the. Draft happens at, this point if,
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 5: you're like if you're determined to Wait till june first for,
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 5: cap reasons you want all the other teams to, figure,
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 5: out WELL yes i satisfied my wide receiver needs in,
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 5: the draft, OR no, i didn't and now potentially there's
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 5: more teams in the fray that might be looking TO Get.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: Aj brett THAT'S.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: What i wonder Is the patriots get through the draft
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: and let's say they don't pick a. Wide, receiver now
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: does it Feel like philly has all. The leverage you're
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: gonna have a large segment of the fan base, being
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: like well you gotta go Get. Aj brown now you Only.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: Added dobbs we need more.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 5: Than this or If the rams don't get a wide
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 5: receiver in, the draft they were rumored to be involved
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 5: and then all of, a Sudden Maybe pooka nikoua's availability
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 5: isn't quite a sure thing with this whole stuff that
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 5: he's going through personally off, the field maybe that increases
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 5: the urgency For for.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: Sean, mcvacum yeah.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: Any move for, me though For the rams doesn't feel
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: Like a rams move, to me, YOU know, I mean
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: i know they they went last year and got.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 5: Think it's the epitome Of a rams really today, Over,
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 5: tomorrow well.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 6: They they're rumored trade interest was if they Could Flip.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 6: DeVante adams, yeah Right.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: But, i'm saying Now this nicoua stuff wasn't, really known then.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 4: That's true. That's true so what if.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: This is just.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 5: Complete hypothetical i'm not basing this on. Any information what
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 5: if this is a significant thing.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: For him and.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 5: His availability MAYBE the nfl was already talked To the rams,
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 5: and saying, you know he's gonna face discipline, For.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: This yeah and his availability is.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 5: In question maybe he's suspended for the first six games.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 5: Or whatever like he's.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 6: Like not to make light, of it but you certainly
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 6: have to worry about giving him a long. Term, extension
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 6: absolutely he's extension eligible and should be making top of
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 6: the market forty plus million dollars, a year and with
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 6: what's going on with him off, THE field i don't
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 6: know if you're ready to hand them.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 4: That, Contract yeah it's just interesting how.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: Opposite is like our fan base is completely gunshy about
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: drafting wide receivers And that rams team has proven that
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: they have drafted well. WIDE receivers i mean they, you Know,
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: drafted pooka They Had. Cooper, cup, like no they've added,
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: free agency but it still, seems like, you know they're
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: willing to kind of go outside and address. Free, agents
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: like once you draft, a guy it doesn't give you
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: this insane confidence that, you're, like well we've drafted, Guys
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: before like we'll just keep drafting because we we've hit
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: him in The bast we're gonna drafted.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 5: A couple but they've signed a. Lot too, you know
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 5: did They Draft bobby trees or? Signed him then they,
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 5: signed him and They Signed brandon cooks, even that, you
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 5: know they've they've signed a HANDFUL.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: Of, i mean now that we talk, about it they
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: have had quite a few of, those guys haven't? They
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: late but really those always feel like. COMPLIMENTARY pieces, i
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: Mean Maybe DeVante adams is outside, that box but you
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: know it was Always like cooper cup was, the engine
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: is the engine.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: In The super. Bowl run they made the Deal.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 6: FOR beckham i think they feel like they have a
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 6: lot of system wide receivers that work well within, the
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 6: System Like cuping takua and then, You KNOW adams i
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 6: feel like was added because they needed one, guy that
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 6: especially when They, faced seattle that could win a one
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 6: on one like at some point it just becomes my
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 6: guy against your guy on, the outside and they felt
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 6: like they needed that one guy that that seems To
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 6: be seattle's like one little kryptonite is if you have
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 6: like a REAL true x that can go and win on,
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 6: his own and you can have a guy.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 4: Like that But, THE rams i mean A j.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 6: Brown's a little bit Younger than adams, right by like
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 6: maybe a couple. Of years it, feels LIKE so i
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 6: guess maybe you'd be getting. Younger, THERE technically i. Don't
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 6: know it seems like a lateral, move though in terms of.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: OH yeah i think that.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 5: You're right their initial interest, IN him i think was
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 5: Predicated on adams.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 2: Getting, moved yeah it was just. Thirty, three yeah so.
• 1:39:26
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  Speaker 1: I Mean The rose bowl twenty years ago was a
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  Speaker 6: But usc pen for him was one of the best
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  Speaker 6: Football games i've ever. Been to and uh It Was
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  Speaker 6: SAM Donald's usc trojans Against Sa Quon Bark Penn State
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  Speaker 6: Nitty lyons and there was probably LIKE twenty nfl players
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  Speaker 3: In The, final dude would you ratherould you Rather see
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  Speaker 3: paul get a new car or a?
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  Speaker 2: New?
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  Speaker 3: Chair oh definitely a, new car unless it's one of
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  Speaker 3: those clients that.
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  Speaker 2: PICK you i just need about one. Hundred grand one
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  Speaker 2: hundred grand would probably solve all of my.
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  Speaker 6: Just think, but then, YOU know I said i say
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  Speaker 5: I don't it's not like, a million that's not like one.
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  Speaker 5: would get me from here where they Are and i'd
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  Speaker 5: be All set.
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  Speaker 2: Nick In New. York city Who Wouldn't paul.
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  Speaker 1: Nick In New.
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  Speaker 3: York city how do you think the change in defensive
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 3: coordinator will change how they? Draft defense they seem to
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 3: blitz a lot more in. The playoffs was that out of?
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 3: Pure necessity will that be a? Stylistic? Shift well it
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  Speaker 3: was the same coordinator really all season.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: RIGHT now i just think in a, perfect world you
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: want to get pressure. With four you want to have
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: an edge rusher that can compliment those. Guys INSIDE and
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  Speaker 1: i think they did have to get a little bit
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  Speaker 1: created down the stretch to try to generate some of.
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  Speaker 1: THAT pressure i know there's a lot of numbers going
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: around about how they, you know, fell off how much
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  Speaker 1: of That, was landry how much was it just, you
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: know wear and tear of. The SEASON but i think
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: everybody that covers this team thinks they need to get
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: better at.
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  Speaker 6: SPOT yeah i also wonder how much was it opponent
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  Speaker 6: driven in the playoffs when you're facing a Really bad chargers,
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 6: offensive line a turnover prone quarterback and stroud and then
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 6: the backup quarterback instead, of them and just like heating
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  Speaker 6: them up was just the best, STRATEGY yeah i wonder
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  Speaker 6: how much of it it was.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: That too it's funny with, that, defense though there are
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  Speaker 1: a couple of times where it's like YOU just, i
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  Speaker 2: Just yeah.
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  Speaker 6: They don't they don't do Like the belichick disguise stuff in.
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  Speaker 6: That sense they do, it differently like they do zone
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  Speaker 6: disguises and post, nap rotations especially. Early downs But when
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  Speaker 6: Nyo blitz man like they're coming and you can, SEE
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  Speaker 6: it I.
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  Speaker 1: SEE donald I mean. DONALD still, I mean i don't
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  Speaker 1: know how he was, against those but there was at
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  Speaker 1: LEAST one i think in the red zone that he,
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  Speaker 1: you know just couldn't get it off.
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  Speaker 5: In.
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  Speaker 3: Time yeah Paul in providence at the end of one
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 3: of the shows, last week there was a brief discussion
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 3: about player development and imediately brought the offensive line, to
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  Speaker 3: mind whether it be individual player development or cohesion as.
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  Speaker 3: A unit was there any development at all along the
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 3: offensive line over the course of. Last season After The,
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  Speaker 3: super bowl every offensive lineman whoever suited up Came To will,
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 3: campbell's defense pointing out a myriad of technical shortcomings.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 2: That resulted in what.
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  Speaker 3: We saw should those, technical shortcomings most of which date
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  Speaker 3: back to his time, in college have been approved over
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 3: the course neck of. The season there is Talk the
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  Speaker 3: patriots may draft another offensive lineman early based on his
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  Speaker 3: recent Work In, New orleans alabama and last Season In.
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  Speaker 2: New england i'm.
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  Speaker 3: Not sure morone is the guy that developed young.
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  Speaker 2: OLD linemen i.
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  Speaker 6: Would disagree that his issues were the same and the
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  Speaker 6: ones that he had. IN college i would say his
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 6: issues in college, were actually for the, most part it
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  Speaker 6: pretty much.
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  Speaker 4: Cleaned up.
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 6: You know his issues in college were more about oversetting
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 6: or drifting off his spot at the top Of the
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  Speaker 6: russian allowing the rushers to come back in side. Of
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 6: him that was what he was getting beat it with CONSISTENTLY.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 6: At lsu this was more about vertical setting and putting
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 6: too much space between him and the rushers and losing that,
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  Speaker 6: reach ADVANTAGE which i think. IS different i thought they
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  Speaker 6: did a really good job at the offensive line. LAST
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 6: year i thought there was. Significant improvement now there was
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 6: better players on, the line and that's part, of IT
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 6: but i saw a significant improvement from. Those guys campbell,
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 6: got hurt, you know he got hurt and it kind
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 6: of derailed. His SEASON but i thought all, Of Them
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 6: jared Wilson and campbell obviously being the, younger Ones IMPROVED
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 6: and I Thought ben brown when he had, to Play
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 6: When vederien lowe had, to play like those guys came
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 6: in and played at a functional. Level TOO so i
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 6: don't Know if campbell's issues were tied to were similar
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 6: to what. WE saw i didn't see him getting bull RUSHED.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 6: At lsu now he WASN'T playing nfl PLAYERS at lsu all,
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 6: the time so that could have been part.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 4: Of it but it's.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: Just hard they got hurt at. THE end, I mean
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: wilson can cost he came back. HE was, I mean
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: i don't know if that's what he was or if
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: that concussion had anything to do, with it but at
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: the very least it showed them that he's going to
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: go back. To center but will, you KNOW towards mcl
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: came back. On IT so i. Don't know it's just
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: hard to judge where they were at. THE end i
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: feel like they kind of peaked In, like november, you
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: know and then after that they were kind of fighting.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 5: THROUGH stuff i would just say from ten thousand feet
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 5: not talking about techniques or any of.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 2: That Stuff.
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 5: Doug maron and the rest of THAT staff i think
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 5: did a really good job because just watching from two
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 5: years ago to, last year the amount, of, like, oh
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 5: man no one blocked, that guy it had to be,
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 5: LIKE yeah, i mean if, not eliminated pretty close. To
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 5: eliminated there are always going to be times where, you
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 5: guys man on man just. Get beat and. They were,
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 5: You know i'm not telling you it was perfect last
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 5: year because. It wasn't i'm probably not as high on
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 5: the overall performance of the offensive line last year as most.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 5: People were but the issues that happened the year before were.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 2: Guys didn't know who they were supposed. To block they
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: didn't look.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 5: Like they were schooled, At ALL and i thought it
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 5: was almost like a.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 2: Fire drill most, you know they had guys like.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 5: Guys coming clean IN the a gap and, you know
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 5: the center's going, one way the god's going the, other
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 5: way and no one's taking this linebacker who Clearly was
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 5: there was One In san francisco that really stands out.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 5: To me and if they just came free up the
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 5: middle and there's no one even, touched Them and brissette.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 5: GOT killed i didn't see a lot of that. LAST
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 5: year i saw guys losing one on one battles from time.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 5: To time but in terms of, the, coaching yeah they
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 5: looked like They were they were well schooled and on
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 5: the same page more often.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: Than THAT and i think consensus they got from terrible
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: bottom of the league to middle the average to middle of.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 4: The, pack yeah and with. Two rookies starting.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 2: With two rookies is a. Good, POINT now i would.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 6: Agree with you, Whole, Hardly paul, and like let's, face
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 6: it during, the, season especially it's a lot more about
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 6: assignments and steering guys in the right direction that it
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 6: is working On Like will campbell's footwork, And, pastet like
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 6: you don't have time to Work On will campbell's foot
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 6: work in his past set when you're preparing FOR The afc, Championship,
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 6: game like.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 4: That's not the time.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 6: For that now is the time, For them like that's
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 6: when they get into, you know their spring camps and things.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 6: Like that that's when they can start working on that kind.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 6: Of stuff once you're, in season it's it's, game plan it's,
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 6: you know getting. Assignments correct It's.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 5: THAT like i think that THAT'S that i almost Called
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 5: Them san. Diego Again the chargers, playoff game there was
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 5: the Play That milton williams made when, everybody's, like wow
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 5: he just broke in there and just. Killed like no one,
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 5: Touched him no one was assigned quote unquote to block.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 5: THEM like i didn't see that a lot last year With.
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 5: THE patriots i started a ton two, years AGO so.
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 5: I DO like, I said i thought that they were
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 5: pretty pretty well schooled and what their. Assignments were now
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 5: it's a it's a different thing to, execute PROPERLY but
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 5: i thought they were on the. Same PAGE and i agree, with.
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 5: YOU guys i think that's the bigger Job For doug
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 5: marone is to make sure you're prepared for the very
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 5: are you personnel packages and blitz schemes and whatnot that
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 5: the opponent's going to give you every week and make
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 5: sure that you're Not getting.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 2: DRAKE.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: Killed yea interested to see the guys all. Get Back,
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: What monday april twentieth is when all the players will?
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: BE back, i mean very able talk so much you
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: know us of the combine about players. Getting stronger you
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: realize what a small window, it is though you know
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: it's JUST like i think back to LIKE when i
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: would have an off season, from hockey and like hockey
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: would end In, like march and you'd have all the
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: Way till october basically. To trimp, but like how much
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: work can you? Really do, you know especially like to
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: get that much stronger or what has it been like?
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: SIX weeks, i mean it's it feels like it's been
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: a blink of, an EYE But i. I'M in i
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: mean Not that i'm expecting to see all of a
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: Sudden will cammebll's will come back and see. But longer but.
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 2: It's all the.
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: Summer, too yeah, you know now continue through, the program so,
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: you know hopefully they make. SOME strides i think that's
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: a huge part of this team is the improvement from
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: those young guys into Year two Tyler.
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 3: And ludlow would you rather have A Perfect march madness
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  Speaker 3: bracket or a perfect first round?
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• 1:50:13
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  Speaker 2: RIDICULOUSLY hard i probably have never been done it.
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  Speaker 3: you know thirty, ONE players i think. THIRTY two I
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  Speaker 1: Come close in, Two Thousand, doctor Z A, sports illustrated
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  Speaker 5: But I know espn has Run That march madness THING
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  Speaker 3: It's generally after the figure out what are the four
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  Speaker 5: Generally your first day it's. OVER now I think i
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• 1:52:36
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  Speaker 1: Because everything i'm googling about, the moon it's going to that.
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  Speaker 2: The moon i'm just saying it's a tough time to release.
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  Speaker 4: A moon, OH yeah i was on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah how could they see the coverage?
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  Speaker 2: To ten and so we went To the.
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  Speaker 3: What was the medium more Excited about artemis two or
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  Speaker 3: the new media?
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  Speaker 2: Work room in.
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  Speaker 4: The new, MEDIA workroom i was told by one person
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 4: that If the patriots had the practice facility, last year
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 4: they would have won The. Super bowl and he was not, being.
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 3: Really he was being.
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 6: Dead, serious okay that's how much the media loved the
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  Speaker 6: media Work Someone.
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  Speaker 5: Said that not on, the air but if someone was,
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  Speaker 5: DOING it i mean IF they, i was if they
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  Speaker 5: you don't have.
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  Speaker 6: To know this was a Dead serious you should Have
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  Speaker 6: New balance athletics center is. So good they would have
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  Speaker 6: Beaten the seahawks and The. Super bowl if that's where
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  Speaker 6: they prepared For The. SUPER bowl i just.
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  Speaker 1: Like when we got in There and Taylor and brian
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  Speaker 1: and they were all sitting on like, the wing like
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  Speaker 1: what's that? Wing area like the, Jury Box and i'm
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: like looking over, at them like what are you? Guys
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• 1:55:05
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  Speaker 1: people but the jury box, is interesting just a work
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  Speaker 2: But, You know i'm Looking for i'm gonna go over
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  Speaker 2: tomorrow and Take The.
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  Speaker 3: Nickel, Tour yeah i'll be Interested because i've been.
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  Speaker 2: Through it you. Designed it the locker room. Is amazing
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 2: there's a lot, of good cool things. In, It yeah,
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 2: i'm excited but, you know.
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  Speaker 5: Something Tells me i'm not going to be as excited
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 5: as whoever thinks that they would have won of.
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  Speaker 2: Its Presence but. I'm looking i'm.
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 3: Looking for we got we got a few minutes left
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 3: Quick one Rick, And Riverside. Rhode island which young players
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  Speaker 3: do you envision take a big leap? This offseason do
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  Speaker 3: you see one of the following making? That leap he
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  Speaker 3: Offers Up, William, Swinson Farmer wallace dirden, and farms which
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  Speaker 3: is the those guys will take a.
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  Speaker 2: BIG leap i don't even know who some of. Them
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  Speaker 2: are can you name, Him.
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  Speaker 3: Again, Kyle Williams, Winston, Farmer Yeah, CADEN wallace i guess
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  Speaker 3: he's talking about durden.
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  Speaker 2: And farms out of, THAT group i Would.
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  Speaker 1: HOPE farmer i don't have seen Enough Of.
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  Speaker 6: Joshua farmer I'm, not yeah you Put Like, elijah ponder
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  Speaker 6: can we Get a ponder mentioned?
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  Speaker 5: In THERE then i feel a little BIT and i
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  Speaker 5: would say the GUY that i would hope.
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 2: For The Most. Kyle. Waim absolutely how do you guys
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 2: Feel About?
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: TRAVION as i feel like he came Out? Like gangbusters
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: we Were all enamor's consistent with, his speed uh and
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: you know we had a period that he was good
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: and you know when the rookie of, the month.
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 2: You don't think there's room for improvement.
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 3: FOR him i think he's going to.
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 1: Be a developed vision and can he? Be MORE like
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: i think.
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 6: There's definitely room for improvement, for sure but like, you
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 6: know maybe. He does but like he had a very.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 5: Good, year yeah he had an excellent. Statistical YEAR like
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  Speaker 5: i hear what.
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: You're saying you Know what i'm getting at right.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly what you're. Talking about, BUT like i think that
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 2: might just.
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 5: Be him that's one of those guys that if you're
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 5: around the league and you looked at, his numbers, you,
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 5: say wow that's a that's a monumental rookie running, back
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 5: year especially considering he was kind of the number two
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 5: guy all year.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 4: And he was a Nominee.
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 5: For explosion but when you, watched it he did, nothing
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 5: early he did, nothing late and he had a bunch
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  Speaker 5: of huge runs in.
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 2: The, middle yep ye.
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  Speaker 5: Scute, It YEAH and i Mean even rabel, SAID that
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 5: I just i want to run the ball. More consistently
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 5: we HAD the, x plays but we need to be, more,
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 5: CONSISTENT right.
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: I mean I think, i shoot somebody posted like his
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: scouting profile and it kind of matched. Up well but
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: IT'S just i just wondered about the. Vision development is
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 1: that something as a running back that you can start
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 1: to see it a little better or is your vision
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 1: kind of what? It is because a lot of THE
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: scouting i read is like he doesn't have. Great vision
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 1: it's not something that scouts look at, and say well he'll,
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: Develop that oh he'll.
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 2: Get it get a few for.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 4: The game you like to think that it would slow down.
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 6: For, him yeah, YOU know i think that guys would
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 6: have good vision or patient and they like know how
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 6: to set up their blocks and kind of stay let
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 6: the blocking develop and let the block blocking do the
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 6: hard work and then like you do the.
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 2: Fun.
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: Stuff YEAH and i think that how does the fullback?
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: Affect him, you know like having a different, you Know
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: could gilliam is he.
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 4: Is basically running it for him because that's.
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 2: The vision the fullback now has the follow the. Full,
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 2: back YEAH but i.
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 5: Would just say that if he has a number of
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 5: years like you did, LAST year i would be okay.
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 5: With that my fear about him is like what happens
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 5: if you take away the four sixty?
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 2: Yard? Touchdowns, yeah?
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: Right sure and then how do you feel if, you
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 1: know the number one gets hurt and we got to
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: lean on you and you we're, Gonna need we're.
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 2: Gonna need but if you can tell me, that no
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 2: he's that's who.
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 5: He is he's going to be this explosive guy and
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 5: there's gonna be some two yard runs where it looks
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 5: like he has, no vision but every once in a
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 5: while he's gonna spring.
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 2: One for a. Home run i'll.
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 6: Take, THAT yeah i think just value with, the mare
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 6: grinding them down and doing the more.
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 4: Consistent stuff, all right that's going to be it for.
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 3: This show we will be Back on thursday with. Another
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 3: episode Everybody, here thursday, nou, okay noduce noduce catch twenty two,
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 3: Tomorrow Tomorrow big, draft, Show Right big.
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 6: Draft show we're gonna we got lots of talk.
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 3: An he reveals gonna happen during, The show nothing, Like,
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 3: that no.
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 6: But next week we will reveal who we both think
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 6: is that they are actually going To.
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 3: Take wow so you wait till the end of, the
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 3: show very very get ready.
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 2: Going to set up that notification to keep?
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 3: People hanging or do you do it early and then?
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 3: Discuss it you, know us we got to, discuss, it yeah,
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 3: you know so wait till the second hour, at, Least, right.
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah we'll say like somewhere in, the middle and then
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 6: we'll spend forty five minutes telling each other why.
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 2: We're, wrong yeah, you, know okay, all right? Good stuff,
• 1:59:58
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