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Best of the Bus: Peyton Manning On Facing Tom Brady & His Greatest NFL Memories · Bussin' With The Boys

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  Speaker 1: Boys.
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  Speaker 2: On this best of the Bus episode, the Sheriff himself,
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  Speaker 2: Peyton Manning, invited us down to Saloon sixteen in Knoxville
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  Speaker 2: for an all timer. We got to talk about what
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  Speaker 2: it was like growing up a Manning while he chose
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  Speaker 2: Tennessee over Ole miss and how Archie helped shape his
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  Speaker 2: view of a leadership. Peyton also give us some insight
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  Speaker 2: in his life after football, building Oma productions and turn
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  Speaker 2: the Manning Cast into a much watch TV And yes,
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  Speaker 2: if you are wondering, we get into the prank wars
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  Speaker 2: between him and his brother Eli. Boys, this one special
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  Speaker 2: tap in. Enjoyed the ride. Let's have a good day,
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  Speaker 2: and while you're here, subscribe on Subscribery, subscribe.
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  Speaker 1: One of our biggest guests we've ever had, no question
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  Speaker 1: about it, maybe the biggest.
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  Speaker 3: Although Dale earn Hard Junior, that was a big one. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's a big one. But Peyton Manning, welcome to Busting
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  Speaker 3: with the Boys.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you all for having me. Yeah, appreciate that. Honored,
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  Speaker 4: very honored.
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  Speaker 1: Just kick us off.
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  Speaker 3: Brother walking in this room, Like, honestly, it's a rhetorical question,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm gonna ask it anyway. Did you ever think
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  Speaker 3: that you would leave a legacy like this because like
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  Speaker 3: you come from a football family, like you're growing up.
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  Speaker 3: You have all the footage where you're playing in the backyard.
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  Speaker 3: Stuff they like when I'm young and I'm watching you
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  Speaker 3: get you and your brother get talked about an archie
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  Speaker 3: to where you see all the footage and you just
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  Speaker 3: know that little kid in you that loves the game
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  Speaker 3: so much and making such an impact that you've made
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  Speaker 3: on this game, Like do you ever just sit there
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  Speaker 3: and try to take a moment to take it in.
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  Speaker 4: I'm very grateful and honored for the teams and organizations
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  Speaker 4: that I was a part of, but I cherished my
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  Speaker 4: four years here at Tennessee. And no, I mean, you
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  Speaker 4: have no idea that you're going to have this connection
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  Speaker 4: and relationship with the university thirty years after I came
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  Speaker 4: here back in nineteen ninety four. But I love coming back.
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  Speaker 4: I stayed four years in college. Will I think people
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  Speaker 4: here in Noxvill and Tennessee probably remember that more than
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  Speaker 4: anything more than a throw or a touchdown, that I
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  Speaker 4: turned the NFL down for a year to stay one
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  Speaker 4: more year in college, which spoke a lot about how
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  Speaker 4: much I'll loved the university in the whole school, in
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  Speaker 4: the whole place in order to stay here. So it's
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  Speaker 4: fun to come back. I love coming back to games,
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  Speaker 4: and yeah, this place. After I got drafted by the Colts,
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  Speaker 4: I was moving out of my college apartment. My mom
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  Speaker 4: came up and basically we moved all of my college stuff,
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  Speaker 4: just put him into a like a storage unit and
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  Speaker 4: just it's been sitting here for like twenty years. And
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  Speaker 4: opened this kind of hotel bar and I said, I
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  Speaker 4: got a bunch of my mom kind of things. It's junk.
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  Speaker 4: It's in this storage unit. Yeah, fucking dig in there.
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  Speaker 4: So they went and that's that all this stuff. That's
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  Speaker 4: what my mom thought of this stuff. It was all
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  Speaker 4: basically garbage. But anyway, it's fun to come back.
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  Speaker 1: That's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: With choosing Tennessee, like your old man obviously went to
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  Speaker 2: Old Miss, what was your recruiting process, like way back
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  Speaker 2: in ninety.
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  Speaker 4: Four, Yeah, that was hard. I mean, for years, Taylor,
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  Speaker 4: I thought Ole Miss was the only school that ever existed, right,
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  Speaker 4: I grew up in New Orleans. Of course, you know
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  Speaker 4: LSU was the Bibby, the top school in the state.
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  Speaker 4: But Ole Miss with the games we went to on
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  Speaker 4: the weekends, and then all of a sudden, you're a
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  Speaker 4: junior in high school and you start getting recruited by
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  Speaker 4: other schools. And I really didn't know how serious it
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  Speaker 4: was up until I got my first handwritten letter from
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  Speaker 4: Bobby Ballden at Florida State. And yeah, I guess I'd
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  Speaker 4: heard enough about recruiting. There was a lot of form letters,
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  Speaker 4: the type letters, but you got a handwritten letter. I
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  Speaker 4: mean I checked it. It smeared. I mean, it was
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  Speaker 4: a legitimate handwritten letter, Bobby Ballden, and I was like, Okay.
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  Speaker 4: I figured, if he's writing me a handwritten letter, tell
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  Speaker 4: me he's going to recruit me. Maybe there are some
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  Speaker 4: other schools out there that are interested. And that's when
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  Speaker 4: I started kind of looking around, I guess, opening my
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  Speaker 4: eyes up a little bit. And had a great visit
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  Speaker 4: here to Tennessee. I was snowing, didn't get to really
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  Speaker 4: see the stadium in its glorious view, but met a
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  Speaker 4: lot of good people. And my brother Cooper went to
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  Speaker 4: Ole Miss on scholarship. Taylor had a neck injury had
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  Speaker 4: to stop playing, and he was in the right school
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  Speaker 4: for him if football didn't work out. And that's kind
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  Speaker 4: of when I said, that's really how you should choose
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  Speaker 4: the school. If I get hurt the first day, but
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  Speaker 4: I'd be happy in the school. And that's kind of
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  Speaker 4: how I felt about here at Tennessee. So and my dad,
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  Speaker 4: I give him credit. If he would have said, son,
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  Speaker 4: you're going to Old Miss. That's the end of the story.
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  Speaker 4: That would have been it. I would have said, yes,
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  Speaker 4: sir dev He said, you're eighteen years old, You're old
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  Speaker 4: enough to make your own decision. I'll support you wherever
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  Speaker 4: you go. And he'd call a lot of flak from
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  Speaker 4: Old Miss people, and how could you not, you know,
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  Speaker 4: make your son go to your school. You know, you've
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  Speaker 4: kind of let us down. It was I think. I
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  Speaker 4: know he was disappointed, and a lot of course when
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  Speaker 4: Eli went to Old Miss, everybody made up it was
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  Speaker 4: all good. But I respect my dad for letting me
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  Speaker 4: make that decision. And uh, you know, I think when
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  Speaker 4: you make those decisions, it's kind of you kind of
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  Speaker 4: make it the right decision after the fact by just
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  Speaker 4: going all in and not looking back. And so, uh,
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  Speaker 4: it was a hard decision, but I appreciate my parents
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  Speaker 4: kind of supporting me in it.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like if he was my boy he'd be
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  Speaker 1: not to mention.
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  Speaker 3: He did come back a senior year, and ultimately the
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  Speaker 3: season didn't go. It didn't end the way you wanted
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  Speaker 3: it to.
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  Speaker 4: Well, look, I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Was it like forty something the seventeen.
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  Speaker 4: It was it Nebraska? Yeah, I forgot about that game.
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  Speaker 4: There's none of those pictures in here. Well I took out.
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  Speaker 4: That's not just because you're here. Yeah, when you come back,
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  Speaker 4: I mean you sign up for all of it, right,
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  Speaker 4: I mean you sign up for it to be glorious
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  Speaker 4: and to go undefeated and all that. Obviously, if I
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  Speaker 4: would have gotten injured, you know I was. I was
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  Speaker 4: okay with that. I just I felt like I'd rushed
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  Speaker 4: my first three years in college. I was always running
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  Speaker 4: a class, running the new interviews, and I didn't want
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  Speaker 4: to be my age now for eight years old and
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  Speaker 4: kind of wondering what was college even I don't remember
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  Speaker 4: anything about college. My senior year, I slowed down. I'd
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  Speaker 4: already graduated. I got more mentally stronger. My rookie year
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  Speaker 4: with the Colts was a struggle. Right. We only one
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  Speaker 4: three and thirteen twenty eight picks. I don't think I
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  Speaker 4: would have handled that had I not stayed four years
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  Speaker 4: in college. Right, that's the kind of season that can
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  Speaker 4: kind of break you. But I kind of said, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I'm actually doing some decent things. We're not winning any games,
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  Speaker 4: and we went thirteen and three my second year. I
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  Speaker 4: gave all that credit to stay in four years in college,
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  Speaker 4: and so it was the right decision for me.
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  Speaker 2: Now, did you come to come to that decision on
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  Speaker 2: your own or was that sitting down and talking to
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  Speaker 2: your dad, talking to people you loved me and like
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  Speaker 2: what should I do?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny, it's a great question because my dad
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  Speaker 4: was always one of those guys that said, hey, ask
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  Speaker 4: some different people some questions, like call some people that
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  Speaker 4: have had this decision. So he kind of formed a list,
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  Speaker 4: and I guess he I don't know how, Like somehow
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  Speaker 4: he helped me get some phone numbers. So I called Troy,
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  Speaker 4: aightman who stayed four years in college. He said he
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  Speaker 4: really wanted to be the first pick in the draft.
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  Speaker 4: That was important to him, and he was drew BLEDSOE
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  Speaker 4: left as a junior. He said he knew he was
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  Speaker 4: gonna be the first pick in the draft as a junior,
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  Speaker 4: and he was like, I'm ready to go I'm a
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  Speaker 4: totally name dropp here. I talked to Michael Jordan, who
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  Speaker 4: came out as a junior.
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  Speaker 2: That's a that's a good name drop.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and he just said, look, I thought I was ready,
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  Speaker 4: and so I guess I came away with it that
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  Speaker 4: it's it truly has to be your decision of what
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  Speaker 4: you really want. And I probably would have been the
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  Speaker 4: first pick as a junior. The Jets had the first pick.
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  Speaker 4: Interesting to see think how things would have turned out.
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  Speaker 4: Parcels was the head coach, Belichick was the decordinator. Just
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  Speaker 4: he ended up coaching the Patriots and Brady who knows.
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  Speaker 4: So I just it was the it was the right
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  Speaker 4: decision for me. So uh, Eventually you kind of gather
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  Speaker 4: the information. You sort of had the old yellow notepad
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  Speaker 4: out with the pluses and minuses. You look at them.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's kind of fifty to fifty either way.
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  Speaker 4: You make a decision, you pray about it, and then
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  Speaker 4: you go with it. Uh. And so it ended up
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  Speaker 4: working out for me.
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  Speaker 1: Your first year. You alluded to with the is it
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  Speaker 1: still the record?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, which which is amazing with seventeen games. Now, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: seventeen games. I mean Mahomes is breaking every other record.
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  Speaker 4: Why can't we break record?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 1: How do you keep it?
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  Speaker 4: But the problem is when they struggled early with picks
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  Speaker 4: that they take them out. Leave them in there, let
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  Speaker 4: him learn right. Yeah, I'm with you, Jeez, I'm over it.
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  Speaker 4: But record, I'm a piece. Eli would have broken it easily. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: he only started six games that I put him in there.
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  Speaker 4: This is my top. I got a good chance this year.
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  Speaker 4: We got we got several kind of good chance. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: is mey gonna get the starting job? I mean I
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  Speaker 4: don't want Nicks to do it in Denver obviously, but
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  Speaker 4: if he.
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  Speaker 2: Did do it, it'd be like, well that's a.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, so you know you'll be the first phone
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  Speaker 1: call for that rookie he does do it.
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  Speaker 2: Put you got to say, whoever, whoever beats you to
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  Speaker 2: send a handwritten letter.
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  Speaker 4: Be a sixteen to seventeen game starter or so put
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  Speaker 4: all these guys.
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  Speaker 1: In the now kind of like as competitors.
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  Speaker 3: When you start to when you have an up and
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  Speaker 3: down year like that, and then you're three and thirteen,
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  Speaker 3: you're like the you you were the first their first
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  Speaker 3: round pick, and you do set the record for interceptions
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  Speaker 3: like the mental fortitude on trying to keep the noise
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  Speaker 3: out of your head going into that next year, because
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  Speaker 3: I'm just I was obviously young then, but now thinking
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  Speaker 3: about it, if a rookie quarterbacks, a rookie quarterback is
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  Speaker 3: breaking that record, they're just getting drug across the mud.
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  Speaker 4: It was like it was tough. And I think playing
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  Speaker 4: in Indianapolis probably would have been different had I been
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  Speaker 4: with the Jets. If I would have been with the Jets,
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  Speaker 4: and hey, part would have ventured me way before the
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  Speaker 4: sixteenth game. But I don't know, maybe somewhere Indianapolis at
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  Speaker 4: the time, being a smaller market, maybe that helped me
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  Speaker 4: a little bit. So it was bad. Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 4: we were playing on the CBS, you know, e broadcast
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  Speaker 4: team every weekend, like you know, there was no Madden.
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  Speaker 4: There was no Nance or Summer All or Phil Simms
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  Speaker 4: coming to Indy. Uh, you know, no Monday night TV.
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  Speaker 4: So but yeah, look, it's the kind of season that
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  Speaker 4: can sort of can kind of make or break yet, right,
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  Speaker 4: And I just we actually were in some games, you know,
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  Speaker 4: everybody like nobody was getting up to play us, right.
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  Speaker 4: We played the Niners that year, Steve Young, Jay Rice,
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  Speaker 4: We played the Jets who went to the AFC Championship.
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  Speaker 4: You know, they had us as a circled win. So
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  Speaker 4: we actually had some actually fairly close games. We'd blow
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  Speaker 4: it in the end. But that's what I kind of
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  Speaker 4: went off of. I'm like, I think I actually can
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  Speaker 4: do this if I just don't throw three interceptions in
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  Speaker 4: the first half. So it didn't break me and my coaches.
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  Speaker 4: Jim Mora had a tough coach, but he was loyal.
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  Speaker 4: He stuck, He stuck with me. He said, hey, stay
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  Speaker 4: in there, keep learning. We're going to fight through this thing.
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  Speaker 4: And sure enough we did. I'm not sure if it's
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  Speaker 4: been but at the time it was the biggest turnaround
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  Speaker 4: in history from three to thirteen to thirteen and three.
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  Speaker 4: There's no way I'd do that if I don't play
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  Speaker 4: all those games rookie. So, uh, I tell all these
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  Speaker 4: college quarterbacks. We were talking earlier about that camp that
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  Speaker 4: we have, and I tell all these guys, it's a marathon,
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  Speaker 4: it's not a sprint. Don't don't let them. You know,
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  Speaker 4: a couple of bad seasons break you, right, just keep
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  Speaker 4: learning from it and keep getting better.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, two thousand and nine, you're playing the Miami dolphins
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  Speaker 2: and John Gruden crowns you the sheriff. Now this is
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  Speaker 2: kind of just Hey, how cool is that nickname? And
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  Speaker 2: also how long did it take the stick? Because sheriff,
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  Speaker 2: unless you're writing a movie, there's no cooler nickname to
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  Speaker 2: be bestowed on somebody.
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  Speaker 4: I uh, you know, I never ever once, if you
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  Speaker 4: ever hear me referring to myself as a sheriff, shoot me.
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  Speaker 1: The sheriff.
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  Speaker 4: I've never wants texted, Hey, you know, sheriff will be
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  Speaker 4: there at three o'clock. You know, please, My brothers would
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  Speaker 4: would have have their way with me. Yeah, Gruden, Uh
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  Speaker 4: what was his expression? You know? Uh? When when Peyton
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  Speaker 4: comes to town, he lays down the law and he
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  Speaker 4: always gets his man. He finds who he's wanting going
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  Speaker 4: to get and he gets his man. So look, I
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  Speaker 4: love Gruden and he was a great broadcaster. It was fun.
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  Speaker 4: So I you love the nickname.
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  Speaker 2: The nickname, It's okay, it's the best nickname.
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  Speaker 4: I wave. I'll respond to people never call me Peyton.
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  Speaker 4: They just yell omaha or sheriff and you keep going.
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  Speaker 4: But like I said, I will never go third person
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  Speaker 4: on you saying you know, Sheriff's heare.
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  Speaker 2: You know where were the teammates ever picking it up
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  Speaker 2: calling you the sheriff.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, for sure. Oh yeah, Vaughn, I mean von Miller,
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  Speaker 4: I gets that's all they called me.
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  Speaker 1: That's it.
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  Speaker 3: That is Yeah, there's there's this legend of Peyton Manning.
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  Speaker 3: I've had some teammates that play with you and they
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  Speaker 3: would say they would tell stories like if a tight
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  Speaker 3: end drop the pass and then a you get him
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  Speaker 3: off the field, and then if a coach tries to
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  Speaker 3: get him back on the field, You're like, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 3: he's got to stay on the sideline.
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  Speaker 1: Whether it was that, whether it was like whether it
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  Speaker 1: was like that or not. When do you feel like
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  Speaker 1: you started to like have that confidence in you two
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  Speaker 1: take over like that?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean certainly not early on, not coming off
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  Speaker 4: a tough rookie season, and like, I mean, the number
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  Speaker 4: one thing that you want to do as a NFL player,
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  Speaker 4: you guys know this is try to earn the respect
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  Speaker 4: of your teammates, right, and when you're twenty two years
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  Speaker 4: old as a quarterback, you got thirty seven thirty eight
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  Speaker 4: year old grown adults in that huddle with you. My
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  Speaker 4: first game in college here at Tennessee. I went into
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  Speaker 4: the huddle. I was a freshman. You know, I kind
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  Speaker 4: of had this pre planned speech for my first game.
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  Speaker 4: I know, I'm just a freshman. Let's go down the
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  Speaker 4: field and score where Big Left tackles, like shut the
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  Speaker 4: f up and call the effing play. Yeah, And it
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  Speaker 4: was the most It was like the best thing that
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  Speaker 4: ever happened to me. Because college, high school, NFL, they
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  Speaker 4: don't want to hear that. They want to see you
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  Speaker 4: take a hit. They want to see you take responsibility
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  Speaker 4: for holding the ball too long, right, not blaming you know,
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  Speaker 4: the receivers or o linemen. So that's what I wanted
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  Speaker 4: to do when I got to the NFL. So yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it took you know years before that. I never kicked
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  Speaker 4: the guy out for chopping the ball. I would kick
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  Speaker 4: a guy out if he if he made a mental error,
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  Speaker 4: like if he if he jumped off sides and maybe
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  Speaker 4: did it twice. And the legend, the one, the one
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  Speaker 4: that is, we were playing the Ravens one time and
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  Speaker 4: this guy jumped off sides to start the series. All
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  Speaker 4: we had to do is get one first down. We
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  Speaker 4: were gonna run the clock out, and he jumped off sides.
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  Speaker 4: On the first play, and sure enough we don't get
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  Speaker 4: the first down. We punt to Ed Reid, who's you know,
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  Speaker 4: remembers what I electric he was, and somehow we end
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  Speaker 4: up stopping him and we win the game. So now
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  Speaker 4: we're going to take the knee. We have the ball
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  Speaker 4: with twelve seconds that we're gonna take the knee. So
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  Speaker 4: the guy that jumped off sides is in the huddle
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  Speaker 4: to take the knee, and I said get out and
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  Speaker 4: he's like, he's like, what, We're just taking the knee.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, get out out and so he
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  Speaker 4: ran out. We had to substitute bring somebody in to
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  Speaker 4: take the knee, and he said his dad asked of
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  Speaker 4: after the games, like, why don't you have to go
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  Speaker 4: out to take the knees? Like, oh, talk about it
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  Speaker 4: killed this play, so uh, you know, But like like
• 14:13
  Speaker 4: I said, but it was all I was hard on myself,
• 14:16
  Speaker 4: people could. I probably cussed myself more in practice than
• 14:20
  Speaker 4: I did anybody else. So I think people knew that
• 14:22
  Speaker 4: I was hard on myself, and so when I was
• 14:24
  Speaker 4: hard on them, it was fair, right, And and I hope,
• 14:27
  Speaker 4: you know, my teammates felt that way, that it was
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: all about just trying to win. Let's try to do
• 14:31
  Speaker 4: it together. I never ever wanted to embarrass anyone. This
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: was a rookie receiver. I'm not going to mention his
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: name on the podcast. He may live in Nashville, so
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: he knows who he is. But that was kind of
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: a one a one off, if you will, dude.
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: We had we had earlier this morning, we had Will
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: Levis on and Will Levis is talking about working himself
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: into a leadership role on how that looks for him.
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: At what point in your career did you know, Okay,
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: I can start telling these guys point blank, this is
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: how I as opposed to kind of like beating around
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: the bush.
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a great it's a great question because it's
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: a feel h Taylor. I think I think you got
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: to do some things first, right, I think he got
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: to lead a two minutes drew that game Will had
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: against the Dolphins right last year, that was a that
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: was a good thing, Right. I think he can bank
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: that one and that that earns you some stripes. So
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: you love to have some continuity, certainly, you know, leading
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: a team to the playoffs or winning a division or
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: beating a team that you're not supposed to just those
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: kind of things where you just sort of kind of
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: check some boxes. That's that's how it was for me.
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: You know, I didn't say a whole lot in my
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: rookie year. I just wanted to earn their respect. And
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: you know, I had a two minute drive to beat
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: the Jets that year, and I was excited. But uh,
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: you know, I just don't think veteran players, you guys
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: know this, and they don't want to hear young players,
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: you know, barking orders until they truly have earned their respect.
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: And I think that's a process that takes a little time.
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: But I liked what Will did last year. You know,
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: he's tougher than nails. He stands in the pocket, he runs.
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: I like him to slide a little more, just to
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: stay healthy. Look, that's hard because I never could run.
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: I never had the option. But these guys that can run,
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: as you know, you still want to be there all
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: seventeen weeks, and so I'm pulling for him. I like
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: Brian Callahan. He was an assistant coach with me in Denver.
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: I think that could be a good uh you know,
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: head coach quarterback combo.
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: How everybody talks about the Manning Brady rivalry when you
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: were in it, How real was that in your mind personally?
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: Like if you when after a game, are you are
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: you searching to see how he did?
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Like what was that rivalry?
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean, I mean you always just knew, right,
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: if there's no Tom Brady, I mean you always you
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: always knew that, you know that the Patriots had won.
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: I mean I guess when it really started when we
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: played him in the regular season so many times, and
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: if we lost to him, you just knew we're going
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: to have to go play that New England in the
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: playoffs and this like we lost to him week one
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: one time, I'm like, we're coming back here in in January. Yeah,
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: And so you just knew they were going to be there.
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: They were so consistent. Look, it was Tom, it was Belichick,
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: it was defense, it was the whole thing, right, It
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: was just this kind of this triple headed monster. So
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: when you played them, yeah, you knew you had to
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: be on your game. You knew their defense was going
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: to be stingy. You know, you just they always Belichick,
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: you know, kind of the easiest way to describe him.
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: He always took away the things you really liked to do,
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: so you had to find something else to kind of
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: do well that game, and then Tom was going to
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: be on his game, so you had to score some points.
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: But you know, major respect to everybody during that era.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we were.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: You were mentioning in your last answer about how you
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: feel like you corbacks just seem to do something a
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: little bit.
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: I fumbled a big question when we had a Rich
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: eisend on the podcast because my dad told me something
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: as a kid, and my dad told me this as well.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: But I was told that when you first got in
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: the NFL, you didn't want to do any marketing stuff
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: until you kind of proved it a little bit.
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: Is that? Yeah, that is true. I just didn't which
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: people would laugh at. Now. It's like, you know, you
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: do so many commercials, Peyton, I can't believe there actually
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: was a time when you didn't do anything. But yeah,
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: I think there's something to that about just kind of
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: earning your stripes a little bit and make that the
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: incentive right to go win some games and then, man,
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: some things are gonna come your way when you do it,
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: but not just because you got drafted or whatnot. You know,
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: to go and earn it and that's Look, those days
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: are probably out the window now because of what's happening
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: now in college right with an I l but uh, yeah,
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: I remember the first real commercial uh that I did
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: was kind of uh in my second year uh in
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: the NFL.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: We'd had a good season, so I felt like i'd
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: kind of maybe earned some stripes. I did a Gatorade
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: commercial with Michael Jordan another name drop yeah, against but
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: I can tell you where I was on the totem pole.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: I never knew what a what a what a double
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: was for a commercial. Michael Jordan had this double guy
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: that looked kind of like him that just made a
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: ton of money, you know, filling in for Mike on
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: some of the commercials that he did. So I got
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: there and they said, hey, your double is going to
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: be standing in for you. I'm like, oh, I've got
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: a double. This is this is big.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: You went to see him and.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: They said, uh, they said, your hair is a little
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: longer than the double. Do you mind if we give
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: you a little haircut to match the double? I was like,
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: is that how it's supposed to work?
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: Would you tell Michael to shave his mustache to match
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: his double? Something? Tells me I was pretty low in
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: the totem poll. But yeah, look, it's still kind of
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: my advice to rookies is, man, just go earn it,
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: go do it. But the team's going to try to
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: promote you, and the marketing team's gonna want you to
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: go meet every sponsor. I get that, there's excitement. It
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: really wasn't me as much Taylor as much as the
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: Colt's organization. I had a great general manager and Bill
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: Pully and who just said, hey, let this guy play
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: football first before you kind of start trying to use
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: them to promote the team and whatnot. And that really
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: helped me just kind of concentrate on football.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: With your nephew, has he kind of taken that same
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: approach that was.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: Kind of with My advice was, look, you know, he's
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: my nephew. He reaches out to me, you know, for questions,
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: but his dad's been around the block. You know, Cooper's
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: giving him great advice. And I think he wants to play.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: He wants to establish himself, you know first, and you know,
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: obviously I think they got a good team this year.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: I'm a big fan of Quinn. I've gotten to know him.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: He comes down to our camp. The two of them
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: get along great. So I'm proud of him for staying there.
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: Most kids probably transfer in that setting, but he stayed there.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: He likes playing for SARK, he likes the system, and
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: when he does get in there, he's going to benefit
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: from kind of having a little continuity in the system.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know, it's my third one in
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: a row.
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: But you're good.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Your nephew obviously calls you a lot, and I know
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: you and Eli have a big rivalry. Who do you
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: think he calls more?
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: It's funny, you know, like he's I mean, these these
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: nineteen twenty year olds. I mean the text response rate
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: it's not super high, right, it's not a great completion percentage,
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: So I don't I kind of let him reach out
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: to me if he has a question. He came to
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: Denver a couple of years ago. We worked out. That
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: was fun. And he will every now and then text
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: me with a question about, Hey, a two minute drill.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: This is what happened in practice today, And I'm sure
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: as soon as he texts me the question he regrets
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: it because you can't answer a question about a two
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: minute drill with a text back what the phone is.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: You have to go to the voice memo. You have
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: to and it can't be just one. So you bang
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: them back with a seven minute voice memo response about
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: about the two minute about you know what the defense
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: is doing, and the plays that you like. You got
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: to go to your staples. Yeah, the plays that you like.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: And you finish it and you're like, I didn't even
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: mention the fact that a defense after a time out
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: will probably come with an exotic blitz, so you better
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: call a max protection coming out of the time out.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: And then you finish that when that's about a six
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: minute or and you're like, well, but totally even you know,
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: forgot about the red zone. Yes, And so three voice
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: memos later, send me a video back.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Moore, Who do you think the favorite uncle is?
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: So? I don't know if he has one, hope if
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: you did, I don't know. I mean I haven't really
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: seen it. I mean, Eli's a good uncle to my kids.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: He is, he calls them, He's got nicknames for all
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: of them, you know, yeah, kids. So I've said we're
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: probably pretty equal.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, you talked about two minutes, and then there's so
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: much poetry when you watch a good two minute drill
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: quarterback go down the field and just pick a part
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: of defense all the way through. It's truly something beautiful.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Is there a one two minute drive that sticks out
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: in your mind where you're like you essentially played chess
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: while the defense is playing checkers.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: I mean I mentioned this this one against the Jets
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: my rookie year. Belichick's the decordinator, Parcells is the head coach.
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: They go to the AFC Championship. So I don't know.
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: We had a fourth and eighteen, which is that you
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: have him right where you want him right.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's an ideal situation.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: And so it was fourth and thirteen in Belichick went
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: all out blitz and so we are not ready for
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: we're gonna get sacked whatever. We had a false start,
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: so that takes it to fourth and eighteen. So now
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: that's always the chess game. Does the defensive coordinator do
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: the same blitz on the next play or since he
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: showed his hand, he's gonna do something different. So we,
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: of course the two and twelve colts go, well, he's
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: definitely gonna show the same blitz again. So we keep
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: eight guys in the block, saying like one guy out
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: on the route, and what does Belichick do? Drop eight
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: guys in the coverage. There's nobody open, and me like,
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: by the book, quarterback, hey, if nobody's open, throw your
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: check down. Probably not what you're supposed to do on
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: fourth and eighteen, right, But coach I was listening, I
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: was taking notes, and I throw this checkdown to Marshall
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: Falch and he breaks seven tackles and gets the first
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: down and then we go down away and throw a
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: game winning touchdown. So I always remember that one. But yeah,
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: the two minute drill to quarterbacks, the pressures on the defense,
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: they have the lead, It really ought to be a
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: time for a quarterback to kind of free up a
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: little bit, right, and let make the defense get tight. Right, Hey,
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: we can't give up this lead. Hey, let's better not
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: blitz them. We're gonna give a man a man. And
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: so you want to try to kind of lean into
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: that a little bit, But it means you've screwed up
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: in the first three and a half quarters to get
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: to that point as a quarterback. So it's your chance
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: to get out of a bad jam. But hopefully you
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: can play a little free in that situation, because nobody
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: really expects you to come back and maybe you can
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: surprise the crowd.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah what what coordinator gave you the most problems?
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: Patriots spellcheck Rex Ryan was tough, you know, he just
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: did things that didn't make sense to me. I'm like,
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: there's no way he can bring that guy, and he would.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: I was always looking when I watched the defense will Okay,
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: you know they're never going to bring the will linebacker
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: and the strong safety, so we can eliminate that. And
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: then you watch the Jets or the Ravens game against
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: the Bills and they bring that exact wlitch and I'm like, dang,
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: you know, and so uh, I had a lot of
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: sleepless nights getting ready to play against his teams.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: The uh We've talked about you getting on other guys,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: and a lot of times when the quarterback, especially an
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: established quarterback, speaks up as an offensive lineman, you don't
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: say a fucking word. You just sit there, You take it,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: and maybe the locker rooms say, maybe please don't yell
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: at me in front of everybody like that next time.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: But there was one situation when you were at the
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Colts Jeff Saturday yelling about running the ball, which is
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: every offensive lineman's dream. If you if you can just
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: run heavy the whole game, the pressure's off, you can
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: bruise it and you walk over there, and this is
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: just I'm from an offensive line perspective.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: You come over there getting jet.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: And then you got four or five?
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: Can you give them the whole listen, It's not that
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: big of a deal. It's not that big of a
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: deal that situation. Yeah, I mean, we were all frustrated.
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: We had this great drive to get down there, and
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: we called a run play. You remember those days, we
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: were a one back offense. We never had a fullback.
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: So the rules were if the defense just put too
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: many guys in there, you got out of the run
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: and you threw a quick slant or a fade to
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: Marvin or Reggie. And so the rams they went to
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: a you know, a crowded line of scrimmage, like on
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: first down and second down.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: So we threw through incomplete and we had run the
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: ball all the way down to that point. And now
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: on third down it's third and goal from the seven.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: You throw again, so we go three straight incompletes. I'm frustrated,
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: but the line definitely is frustrated. So we're coming off
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: the sideline. I could just hear them over there talking
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: to the line. He's barely hearing.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: It.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't know exactly what he's saying, but
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: I know what he's talking about. And you're just sitting
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: there breathing. And finally I just go over there. And
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: as soon as I get over there, I'm like, this
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: is a bad movie. Oh my god, and they all
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: stand up. I got no back up. You know, Stokeley's
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: going the other way to the D B side of
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: the bench and uh so, yeah, I was miked up
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: at the time, and so that that lives on forever.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: But Jeff was my roommate on the road. Our lockers
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: were next to each other. My locker in the Coast
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: locker room was right in between the offensive lineman. You
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: know a lot of times there's a quarterback section the
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: receiver section. I put it right in between the five
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: starting offensive lineman because those are the guys never protecting you.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: Those are the guys who were talking all the time
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: about checks and audibles. I wanted them to kind of
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: know what I was going to audible too. I didn't
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: want them to be surprised, And so we'd sit by
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: each other on the plane ridse but yeah, that one
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: certainly lives on.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Lives on forever.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: You guys, tell I'm sorry.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: I was going to talk about when it's all coming
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: to an end, like your mortality. Obviously, you go out
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: with the Super Bowl, but you had the neck injury,
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: you had the you know, you had the things going
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: you had the things going on physically to where you're
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: throwing for like north to fifty touchdowns, you run forty touchdowns,
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: and then that last year you kind of know that
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: it's your last year going out, Like what was it
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: like for you when that mortality started to set in? Like, damn,
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: this game is it forever? Even though I've played, Yeah,
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: felt like forever.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think you just you just kind
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: of know, at least for me, when certain throws that
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: you used to always make that you just don't make
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: them anymore, and the ball's not going where you're where
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: it's supposed to, you just sort of kind of go, hmm,
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: that's different, and and so you sort of accept it.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: And so I think somewhere in my last season I
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: kind of knew it was going to be my last season.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: But Derek Jeter, I'm just on a name drop and roll.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Here putting good names out there.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: Announced his decision to retire before his last season, and
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: he told me that he regretted that because the whole
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: season was a tribute to Derek Jeter and in a
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: team sport. He said, it got to the point where
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: he was almost embarrassed by it because he was going
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: to play in Milwaukee and they had a and they
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: were giving him gifts, and he's like, it was all
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: about me, and the Yankees didn't have a winning season,
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: and so he said, hey, if you ever know you're
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: going to retire, announced it the day before you decided,
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: and then announce it the next day and be done
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: with it. Don't do it before the season. And so
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: I always remembered that, and so I kind of knew
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: halfway through that last season, this is probably going to
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: be it, but you just don't want to say it
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: because then it becomes kind of all about you. And
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: we had a good thing going. And so we got
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: to the Super Bowl, and of course they asked you
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: right away that game you kind of want one moment
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: just to enjoy that game. It was my eighteenth season,
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: and you know, I had a chance to win the
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: super Bowl. You want to sort of enjoy that night
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: and not talk about you right away. So I tried
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: to pivot and say, I'm just thinking about drinking a
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: lot of Budweiser tonight. And everybody thought, oh, he's got this,
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: but I was really I had no relationship. You're not
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: allowed to have a at the time, a beer relationship
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: as a current player. I was just I was that's
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: what I was going to do that night. I was
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: gonna drink a lot of beer. I was just trying
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: to get him to stop asking me about retiring.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: And then.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: Tony Dungee had told me, he said, even if you know,
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: just take one more month, just to let it sink in.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: Don't make some emotional decision. Remember Dick Vermil kind of
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: won the Super Bowl and he said I'm retiring, and
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: then he missed it and he came back and coached
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: the Chiefs, and so I took about a month and
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: then I decided in March that it was going to
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: be it. I was thankful for the time I got
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: to play. Most guys get injured, they oftentimes it's not
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: their decision they get retired. So to be able to
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: do it on my terms, I was at peace with it,
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: and I was thankful for the time that I got
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: to play and the relationships that I made. I mean,
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: you know, the equipment manager for Tennessee picked me up
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: today at the airport, right. I cherished my friendship with him.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: The equipment manager for the Colts texted me a picture
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: of his grandchildren today. And so those are my greatest
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: takeaways from my time playing not game, not a throw.
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: The friendships, as you guys know, with your teammates and coaches,
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: of the behind the scenes. The video director here at
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: Tennessee for me, is now the video director with the Broncos.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: And you talk about a guy that's broken more film
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: down for me, and you know he and I are friends.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: So anyway, uh, you don't get to play anymore, but
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: you still have those relationships.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Is there not a better group in a franchise than
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: the equipment guys.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: The equipment guys.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Are the number one cats everywhere we go. Guys, my
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: boy Joey over there, all of them, Yes, air.
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: Of those guys. I mean, you know they have they
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: have what I call thankless jobs. I mean nobody, I
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: mean people only come to them when they need something.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: I need lockers exactly I said, so show show appreciation.
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: I don't know how y'all did your clubhouse dues or whatnot,
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: but I was real big on, hey, take care of
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: these guys because uh, they love football and they want
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: to win. So uh, I still send my my clubhouse dues.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: Do you really to the cults and the Roncos? No ship, Yeah,
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: I'm retired, and so I just uh yeah, because it's like,
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: you know, they you know it, don't obviously they're not,
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: you know, not seeing them every day. But I'm just
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: thankful for for them for what they did for me.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Did you guys do flat rates or did you do
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: practice squad as this much veterans or this?
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the thing. We tried to kind of do
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: it different ways. I didn't necessarily like, you know, sort
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: of the public sign up list where.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: It was always Brett Kern for us who would sit
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: in front of the team. But here's how it's gonna go,
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: and just kind of label it for everybody. This is
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: where you're at, this is what you're putting.
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, which is fair, yes, fair right, because you know,
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: I think young players don't realize what these guys are doing.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: They are staying there at midnight washing socks and jockstraps
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: or whatnot. So uh but it's a good it's a
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: good tradition and and uh yeah, it's it's funny. I
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: mean today I've talked to both those guys today, so
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: uh great, great memories.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: A good transition into tier talk or a tear talk.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: Oh you gotta you got I did.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: But literally as soon as you said tear talk, my brain,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Like Men in Black.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: He was talking about.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: He was talking about like gift giving our cheer talk
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: we wanted to do with you is the best, Like
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: in your career, your top three gifts that you've either
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: given Oligneman, the team. I don't know how you've gifted
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: everybody but your top three.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: Top three Wow, I guess. I mean you have to
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: probably ask them, I guess. Uh. You know, Jeff and
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: Tartlan and those guys. I flew them all to the
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: Hawaii to the to the Pro Bowl, right, you know?
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: That was that was kind of one of the first
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: things that I did, custom made cowboy boots. Okay, I
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: mean you gotta understand now, this is this is two thousand,
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: two thousand and one.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you flew the O line to the
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: to Hawaii and there.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: And their spouses. You know, I'm just saying it's like,
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: I mean mahomes like that, they're like cooler things available
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: now at least I guess right. And so mom was
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: from the hard cowboy boots, custom made suits, overcoats, you know,
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: like always something fitted, you know, bring the guy in
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: electronics TVs. But it wasn't like it wasn't a it
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: wasn't a Christmas gift like it was you had to
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: have blocked well gift. Like one year two thousand and one,
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: we didn't make the playoffs and my left guards like
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: with no gift. This year, I'm like, there's no playoffs.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: You know you ever seen Team Wolf, No Wolf, no
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: part you know, no blocking, no gifts. So but like
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: the rules change. I mean, you know, Tarat Glynn at
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: one point was making my left tackle was making I
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: don't know, like twelve million a year. Used to be quarterback,
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: take care of the poor old offensive line on the
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: offensive line and they're making banks. They're like, yeah, god bless,
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: Like what is this watch? I mean right, this is
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: not it's not even the best role x out there.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: This is right, Yeah, offensive linemen Offenseimemon gotta get paid.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: That's a good that's a good call.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: Was there a how about this starting on line?
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: No, I took care of all of them. Okay, here,
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: I took care of the wingman. Uh, you know, the
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: practice squad guys, and yeah, then you start spreading out
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: you got the tight ends, uh, receivers and so yeah,
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: like I felt like, uh, I tried to show, you know,
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: my appreciation for all those guys because you know, you're
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: you know, sometimes receiving some of the awards or whatnot,
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: but those are the guys that were making it, making
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: it happen. You know.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: I'm walking over to Peyton's locker, like, hey, you got
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: anything for your boy?
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: For linebackers? Yeah, maybe for white middle linebackers.
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh that reminds me. No, never, never, never crossed over.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: We had not for pet Anger.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: We had we had josh Allen and we talked about
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: going to an empty situation. There's one middle linebacker that
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: you know is a liability and coverage he goes out
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: with your running back. Josh An called it a milk check,
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: white guy.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: I see him. That's why I'm going with I'm staying
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: in the box there. Yeah, no, no, no, you it
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: was it.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Did you ever have like a hey, listen over, white
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: guy out here. We got to take advantage of this
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: poor soul.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: It's funny. I mean, I think Zach Thomas a bunch
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: and that was kind of thing we always sick because
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: he was always in the middle. We were always like,
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: you know, I'm not sure if he can if he
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: can cover can we.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Just can we get him outside the get him out there?
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: And he was just what you said. He was so smart.
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: He never put himself and that.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you gotta know your weakness and checked out.
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: He's like, no, no, you sending the sam out there?
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: The wheel out there? Yeah, couldn't. We could never get
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: him in that spot. And maybe look he was a
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: stud player, so he probably could have covered him. But
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: so we'll never know.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: I guess no milk checks you. You talk about the
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: gift giving is great. But one thing that I've always
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: appreciated you for with some of the clips I would
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: see about pranks you would do. You'd want to pull,
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: boil you empty the little thing. Do you have any
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: like top pranks you ever put on guys in the
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: locker room at you were like, man, I've done it.
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: Just you know, I mean training camp, everybody had golf carts.
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: Coaches had golf carts. We were always trying to get
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: those moved, you know into like there was a little
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: pond in the middle of the training can that had
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: a little platform out there. We got the golf carts
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: moved out on that one time, big trash can full
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: of water leaned against the door in the dorm rooms
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: on the last night or training camp when their bags
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: are packed and their luggage should be on the floor
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: right which you know, oh yeah, last night, last night.
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: I can't. You gotta be last night. They gotta be
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: packed because we'd say practice in the morning. I kind
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: of get up and say, guys, practice in the morning.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: I'm telling you you don't want to get on the road.
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: So you know, I just go ahead and pack up tonight.
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: It's a nice veterans And you lean that trash can
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: against that door, you know, about eleven thirty after bed checking,
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: you just you know, bang on that door hard. And
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: they opened that door and it's just a tidal wave,
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: the flood coming in. And like I said, you know,
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: if it only it's their dorm, it's not really good.
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: But when he gets that luggage. Oh yeah, they're nice
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: luggage that they've had. They got their picture with their
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: girlfriend probably on top of the bag. It's ruined. It's
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: trying to think. Uh. You another guy, guy in Denver
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: who had a uh had a picture of his girlfriend
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: in his room. I think it was like body paint
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: of her, you know, like I'm just it was an
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: interesting picture to have in training camp. And we got
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: it somehow, and we had a security you know, you know,
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: you have security on the floor right and like these guys,
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: you know, they take naps like you know, eleven o'clock,
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: And we put that picture like on the security guard's lap,
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: like as he was sleeping, and that kind of caused
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: a little stir. But the player like, why does the
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: security guard have a my girlfriend and body paint? So uh,
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: anything to keep you know, keep things loose, you guys
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: know the grind of train any camp, so just to
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: make things fun. But yeah, I miss that. I haven't
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: put a trash can full of water in a hotel room.
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: You want to mess with Eli Eli's Eli's got some
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: got some prank game. He's big with the cell phone.
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: His go to move for years was he could change
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: your settings you could change the language on your phone.
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: He'd like say, hey, well let's get a picture, you know,
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: and and uh, I'll take it of YouTube first. And
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: he's taken your picture, and he changes your phone to Chinese.
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: And now you can't get it out.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Now you can, you can't figure it out.
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, in general and settings are in Chinese. And now
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: his go to he is is a thing called text replacement.
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: The feature on your phone would be anything you text
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: often that's long worded, your address, your email, Hey, what's
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: your email? You know? Text replacement. If you put you know, p,
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: it auto corrects to your email. But see it autocorrects
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: to your Well, you can make whatever you want to
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: mean whatever you want. So he changes the word yes
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: on my phone to I just sharded okay. And so
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: when my wife says, hey, are you going to be
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: home for dinner? You know, quickly yeah, so she says, actually,
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: she's like, oh, I'm so sorry, are you okay? I'm like,
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: what what just happened? So yeah, anyway, respect that's a
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: good one. Don't mess with him.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: That is a solid one.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: What about this episode to bring you let's lock in?
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: They taped it, They taped it smart move, smart Move.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: You guys have had so much success with the maning
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: cast on all productions and everything else. Is there anything
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: that is there something that you guys are doing different
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: this year that people can look forward to this year.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: We were talking about him earlier. Bill Belichick is gonna
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: be a permanent first half guest, permanent in every game
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: that we're doing this year, to talk about the defense.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: We got Niners Jets first game. He'll come on and
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: talk about, you know, the three things that the Jets
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: are gonna have to do to stop Purty, you know
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: what the Niners gonna have to do to stop Aaron Rodgers.
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: He'll be able to talk about, you know, maybe some
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: coaching decisions that might happen. Look, I don't enough people
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: have gotten to hear Belichick's brilliance, right. He never shared
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: with everybody. His players know. I played for him in
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: two Pro Bowls. I have a sense of it. But
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: we've had rehearsals. I come away as a smarter football
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: fan after listening to him, and he's witty and he's dry.
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: He couldn't tell in the rehearsal when we were live
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: and when we weren't a couple of times so some
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: of the things he said when we were live and
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: he thought we weren't were great, and like, if we
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: could just get that a little bit, HELI I could
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: just trick him, like, Bill, we're not live, what do
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: you really think right now? So I don't know if
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: we'll do that to him as a rookie prank, but
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: I'm excited about that because he's Look, he's a brilliant
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: football mind, and I think viewers will have the benefit
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: of hearing from him and Eli and I looking forward.
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: Plus he doesn't like Eli because Super Bowls making fun
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: of Eli's encouraged here. So it should be a fun.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: Year, dude. That's that's gonna be awesome.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: Is there anything over these first few years that you
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: kind of look at and you're like, we need to
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: get better in these areas because obviously it's a new thing.
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: No, we do a study in the off season, just
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: like you do when you're playing. And look, we have
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: those these guests on We've learned that when we're interviewing
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: a guest about why they love football and a big
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: play happens, we've got to cut him off or her
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: off and say, hey, hold that thought. I got to
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: tell you what Aaron Rodgers just did here. He just
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: checked to a wide receiver screen verse cover zero and
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: they just gashed the riders. Eli and I weren't doing
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: that enough because they want to be rude. We don't
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: want to interrupt y'all. But the fans have kind of
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: spoken in our little study that we did, and they said, hey,
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: we want to hear about the big plays that happened.
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: And Belichick's going to be a first half guest, and
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: then maybe just have two guests in the second half.
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: Try to have one former player or a current player,
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: and then maybe one celebrity. Maybe just to have enough,
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: you know, a football discussion in the fourth quarter, and
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: then maybe one celebrity because look, the show it's supposed
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: to be different than the main broadcast, right. They don't
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: want just me and Eli talking, so we have to
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: be different. Those are our instructions. So we think, uh,
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: you know, being sure the guests are dialed into the game,
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: and being sure we're always talking about what's going on
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: in the game. So and then if Eli would just
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: stop making forehead jokes. It's been four years, it's it's
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: it's expired.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Got to find new materials.
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: The yeah, you keep going back to the same stuff.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: So those are a couple of things we want to work.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: On a couple of things.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: I know you're out of time, and I just want
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: to say thank you. This has been so awesome. The
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: stories have been amazing. I want to let you know
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: that we are also available every Monday, anytime.
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: Maybe. Yes, we have repeat guests.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, in a pinch.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: Just know that the boys got you.
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: You were voted uh high in our off season study.
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: People appreciate it with the bust and bump, the stories.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: The rating, a little painting at the end.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, see here there was a big jump here in
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: week eleven. That's get the pain we got.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: No, we never got the pain the hang on?
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: Did we get the instagrams on the Instagram?
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say we got instagram the class.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: But thank you, thank you for taking the time. Seriously,
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: this was awesome. We've wanted to get you on the
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: show for a long time. We appreciate you. You're a legend.
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: No, no, really are bro.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: My dad's gonna be fired up at the cafeteria in
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: high school. I battled to the death for you. But
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: once Tom got a couple more, It's kind of like
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: but I'm talking every year. I'm like vein coming out
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: of my neck. I like it, but the boys got
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: your back. Bro, thank you so.
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: Much as thank you appreciate it. Thanks.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: Thanks at