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- 0:04Speaker 1: From The Australian. I'm Claire Harvey. A special bonus episode
- 0:07Speaker 1: of The Front for You Today, Bruce Lamon has been
- 0:13Speaker 1: ordered to pay the vast majority of Network ten and
- 0:16Speaker 1: Lisa Wilkinson's whopping costs after unsuccessfully suing them for defamation.
- 0:21Speaker 1: Just as Michael Lee said Ten's journalism was unreasonable and unjustifiable,
- 0:27Speaker 1: but he slated Lahman's lies and his decision to have
- 0:31Speaker 1: his lawyers cross examine a rape victim knowing she was
- 0:35Speaker 1: telling the truth. In today's episode, Wylee is still furious
- 0:39Speaker 1: with the Network ten and what he says about Brittany
- 0:42Speaker 1: higgins conduct.
- 0:54Speaker 2: Mister Lhermon had sexual intercourse with Miss Higgins and yet
- 0:57Speaker 2: ran a primary case premised upon the fanciful, knowingly false
- 1:00Speaker 2: premiss that in the early hours of twenty three March
- 1:03Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, he was preoccupied with noting up details as
- 1:06Speaker 2: to French submarine contracts.
- 1:09Speaker 1: This is justice, Michael Lee delivering what he says he
- 1:12Speaker 1: hopes are some of his final words on the matter
- 1:15Speaker 1: that has gripped Australia over four years, the claim that
- 1:19Speaker 1: Bruce Lehman raped Brittany Higgins on a sofa in Federal
- 1:23Speaker 1: Parliament House.
- 1:25Speaker 2: As I said, mister Lehman defended the criminal charge on
- 1:28Speaker 2: a false basis, lied to police, and then allowed that
- 1:30Speaker 2: lie to go uncorrected before the jury. He wrongly instructed
- 1:34Speaker 2: his senior council to cross examine a complaint of sexual assault,
- 1:37Speaker 2: then two legal proceedings, including relevantly for present purposes in
- 1:41Speaker 2: this case, on a knowingly false premiss Indeed, this was
- 1:45Speaker 2: misconduct in the running of the case of such a
- 1:47Speaker 2: character that even if I had not reached the level
- 1:49Speaker 2: of satisfaction that mister Lehman raped Miss Higgins, and mister
- 1:52Speaker 2: Lehman was therefore entitled to judgment of twenty thousand dollars
- 1:55Speaker 2: in the count of factual explained in the judgment, I
- 1:58Speaker 2: would have declined to award costs in mister Lurman's favor.
- 2:01Speaker 2: This would have been the appropriate exercise of discretion in
- 2:03Speaker 2: circumstances given mister Lehman had acted in serious breach of
- 2:08Speaker 2: his unbl obligations under Part five B the Federal Court
- 2:11Speaker 2: of Australia Act in advancing a case he knew was
- 2:13Speaker 2: false and which occasion much delay, in efficiency and increased cost.
- 2:18Speaker 1: The judge has already found on the balance of probabilities
- 2:21Speaker 1: that Laerman did rape Higgins. Lareman's indicated he may appeal,
- 2:26Speaker 1: but now he's facing an immense legal bill because the
- 2:29Speaker 1: federal court judge has ordered him to hand Network ten
- 2:33Speaker 1: and its journalist Lisa Wilkinson what's likely to be millions
- 2:36Speaker 1: of dollars to pay their lawyers. Lahman's own lawyers up
- 2:41Speaker 1: till now have been working on a no win, no
- 2:43Speaker 1: fee basis and won't get paid because they lost the
- 2:48Speaker 1: lawyers earlier this week told the court Laerman does not
- 2:51Speaker 1: have a secret financial backer out there paying his bills.
- 2:55Speaker 1: He likely does not have millions of dollars lying around.
- 2:59Speaker 1: This decision may bankrupt him, and given he now has
- 3:02Speaker 1: new lawyers who may not be working no win, no fee,
- 3:06Speaker 1: it could make an appeal less likely.
- 3:12Speaker 2: There are no real winners in this litigation.
- 3:15Speaker 1: Something that's been grinding Michael Lee's gears about the epic
- 3:19Speaker 1: legal storm surrounding Laman and Higgins is the way he says,
- 3:23Speaker 1: everyone only hears what they want to hear with.
- 3:27Speaker 2: The predictability of an atomic clock. Partisans have focused solely
- 3:31Speaker 2: on those parts of the judgment that happened to align
- 3:33Speaker 2: with preconceived notions, but their reality of mixed findings has
- 3:37Speaker 2: been somewhat obscured in the public statements of the respondents
- 3:40Speaker 2: and their submissions as to costs, which advanced an assertion
- 3:43Speaker 2: that they won the litigation and that costs should axiomatically
- 3:47Speaker 2: follow the event.
- 3:48Speaker 1: Here's what he means. Ten won the case, Yes, but
- 3:52Speaker 1: it wasn't a total win, and they shouldn't assume they
- 3:55Speaker 1: get to force Bruce Lamon to pay all their legal costs.
- 4:02Speaker 1: Bruce Lambon sued Network ten and presenter Lisa Wilkinson over
- 4:06Speaker 1: the Bombshell twenty twenty one story on the project, in
- 4:09Speaker 1: which Rittney Higgins told her emotional story of being raped
- 4:13Speaker 1: by Bruce Lammon and then despairing as as she claimed
- 4:17Speaker 1: her bosses failed to act, and.
- 4:20Speaker 3: So I would, I would try and raise it, and
- 4:23Speaker 3: I would try and bring it up. Then it was
- 4:25Speaker 3: always it always sort of came back to sort of
- 4:27Speaker 3: being a mere issue and it says, so you can't
- 4:30Speaker 3: deal with it, then you can leave.
- 4:33Speaker 1: Lamman said he never had sex of any kind with Higgins,
- 4:35Speaker 1: and that when the pair came back to Parliament House
- 4:38Speaker 1: one autumn night in twenty nineteen after a big night
- 4:41Speaker 1: of drinking. He went to his desk and made some
- 4:43Speaker 1: notes about French submarine contracts.
- 4:47Speaker 2: Oh, Bruce Lareman here with Minister Linda Reynolds to then
- 4:50Speaker 2: request to pick up some documents.
- 4:53Speaker 1: Have I've forgotten my past? Ten and Wilkinson had two defenses,
- 4:59Speaker 1: First that Britney Higgins's claim of being raped was true,
- 5:03Speaker 1: and second that their story was covered by statutory qualified privilege.
- 5:08Speaker 1: That's a rule designed to protect well intentioned, careful journalism.
- 5:13Speaker 1: The qualified privilege defense means a publisher has to prove
- 5:16Speaker 1: that they made all reasonable efforts to ensure the publication
- 5:20Speaker 1: was true. In his judgment back in April, Justice Lee
- 5:24Speaker 1: found Ten and Wilkinson had successfully proven the truth of
- 5:28Speaker 1: the rape on the balance of probabilities, which is the
- 5:31Speaker 1: standard in civil cases like this, but he said Ten
- 5:35Speaker 1: had failed on the qualified privileged defense.
- 5:39Speaker 2: First, I explained why the conduct of both Network ten
- 5:42Speaker 2: and miss Wilkinson in publishing the project program its character
- 5:46Speaker 2: of to feign that defamatory imputations as to mister Lihman
- 5:49Speaker 2: was unreasonable. Contrary to assertions of Network ten, the examination
- 5:53Speaker 2: of the respondent's conduct was not devoid of, nor divorce
- 5:56Speaker 2: from reality, nor did it involve picking a part in
- 6:00Speaker 2: secting the respondent's conduct by reference to a standard of perfection.
- 6:04Speaker 2: For anyone taking the trouble to read the judgment would
- 6:07Speaker 2: conclude that I did not consider the evatagey assessment required
- 6:10Speaker 2: by the statutory qualified privileged defense to be a close
- 6:14Speaker 2: run thing.
- 6:16Speaker 1: That there is a big swipe at Network ten over
- 6:19Speaker 1: something else that has made the judge very cranky. The
- 6:22Speaker 1: statements made on the court steps and in media interviews
- 6:25Speaker 1: after the trial by a representative of ten's law firm
- 6:30Speaker 1: in terms.
- 6:30Speaker 4: Of Channel ten's reasonable us look the way in which
- 6:34Speaker 4: judges and barristers, and this is the problem with defamation
- 6:37Speaker 4: law in Australia. The way in which judges and barristers
- 6:40Speaker 4: pick apart and dissect what journalists did or didn't do
- 6:44Speaker 4: in applying a legal threshold or legal test of reasonable
- 6:49Speaker 4: was is quite often divorced from reality.
- 6:53Speaker 1: The judge went on.
- 6:54Speaker 2: I also explained that although the respondents legally justified their
- 6:58Speaker 2: imputation of rape, their conduct was not justifiable in any
- 7:02Speaker 2: broader sense. The material in evidence is replete with the
- 7:05Speaker 2: recognition by the project team that the major theme of
- 7:08Speaker 2: the broadcast was the publication of what mister Charraz, the
- 7:12Speaker 2: promoter of the project and the regular conduit between Miss
- 7:15Speaker 2: Higgins and mister Llewellyn, had pitched to Miss Wilkinson. The
- 7:19Speaker 2: credulous approach taken as to the allegations pitched by mister
- 7:23Speaker 2: Charraz and as to Miss Higgins's credit, generally lacked both
- 7:26Speaker 2: rigor and objectivity. Contrary to the recent assertions of Network teen,
- 7:30Speaker 2: a publication is not reasonable simply because it turns out
- 7:33Speaker 2: to be true in some respects.
- 7:36Speaker 1: Mister Charraz, that's Britney higgins fiance. He pitched the story
- 7:41Speaker 1: to Lisa Wilkinson by email under the heading Liberal Party
- 7:45Speaker 1: Me Too project pitch Scharaz told Wilkinson it was a
- 7:49Speaker 1: story of a young rape victim being silenced by Scott
- 7:53Speaker 1: Morrison's federal government. That's something the judge said was not
- 7:56Speaker 1: borne out by the facts. He found that, in fact,
- 7:59Speaker 1: Minister Reynolds and a chief of staff Fiona Brown, had
- 8:02Speaker 1: not tried to cover up the rape or pressure Higgins
- 8:05Speaker 1: into silence. Ten tried to argue in its submissions that
- 8:09Speaker 1: it wasn't claiming there was a cover up, just that
- 8:11Speaker 1: Britney Higgins said. So here's what the judge said about that,
- 8:15Speaker 1: and it relates to the way he says TEN and
- 8:18Speaker 1: its supporters have crowed about their victory.
- 8:21Speaker 2: The result is best characterized as the respondents overcoming a
- 8:24Speaker 2: misconceived claim in relation to a broadcast because they were
- 8:29Speaker 2: able to prove a trial the substantial truth of what
- 8:32Speaker 2: the contemporaneous material demonstrates that they considered to be the
- 8:36Speaker 2: less substantial allegation made in the broadcast.
- 8:39Speaker 1: In other words, the judge says Ten's chosen to ignore
- 8:42Speaker 1: the fact they did present this as a cover up
- 8:44Speaker 1: and that that just wasn't true. The judge said, even
- 8:48Speaker 1: though TEN and Wilkinson's barristers had made very learned submissions,
- 8:51Speaker 1: there was no hiding the fact that Lisa Wilkinson and
- 8:54Speaker 1: producer Angus Llewellyn wholly believed Brittney Higgins's story and didn't
- 8:59Speaker 1: do an enough to establish whether it was true.
- 9:02Speaker 2: This is a case where extensive contemporaneous records demonstrates a
- 9:06Speaker 2: very large gulf between the carefully drafted respondents affidavits and
- 9:09Speaker 2: the true position as to the immediate and unquestioning belief
- 9:13Speaker 2: in miss Higgins's acount by mister Llewellyn and miss Wilkinson,
- 9:17Speaker 2: and as to the project team's lack of interest in
- 9:19Speaker 2: examining the account properly or obtaining contrary accounts.
- 9:23Speaker 1: The reason the judge is going through this is that
- 9:25Speaker 1: Lahman's lawyers sought to argue that because Ten lost on
- 9:28Speaker 1: the qualified privileged defense, Laman should not have to pay
- 9:32Speaker 1: tens legal bills for preparing and running that defense. Ultimately,
- 9:36Speaker 1: the judge didn't agree with that argument. He said the
- 9:39Speaker 1: two defenses were bound up together. Even if he had
- 9:42Speaker 1: serious problems with ten's journalism.
- 9:45Speaker 2: One cannot ignore the fact that the relevant conduct of
- 9:47Speaker 2: Network ten relating to the publication of the project program
- 9:50Speaker 2: was far from reasonable, and the statutory qualified privilege case,
- 9:54Speaker 2: while not hopeless, was weak.
- 9:58Speaker 1: The judge's other big problem with Network ten's behavior was
- 10:01Speaker 1: about the Logis speech made in twenty twenty two, in
- 10:04Speaker 1: which Lisa Wilkinson declared.
- 10:07Speaker 5: After forty years in journalism, this interview and this story
- 10:11Speaker 5: is by far the most important work I have ever done.
- 10:15Speaker 5: And I knew it from the very first phone call
- 10:18Speaker 5: I had early last year with a young woman whose
- 10:21Speaker 5: name she told me was Brittany Higgins.
- 10:25Speaker 1: That was eight days before Bruce Lahman was supposed to
- 10:28Speaker 1: face the Act Supreme Court in a criminal trial for rape,
- 10:32Speaker 1: at which Wilkinson was supposed to be a witness. A
- 10:35Speaker 1: furious Act judge delayed the trial because of the speech. Ultimately,
- 10:39Speaker 1: the trial was aborted without any finding of guilt against Lamman.
- 10:44Speaker 1: The judge said the Logis speech was grossly improper and
- 10:47Speaker 1: his slated Ten for approving it and continuing to defend
- 10:51Speaker 1: it in this defamation trial. And this brought him back
- 10:55Speaker 1: to the lawyer's statement on the court steps and subsequent
- 10:58Speaker 1: interviews where he defended Ten's journalism.
- 11:02Speaker 2: Following the delivery of judgment, however, a solicitor spokesman retained
- 11:05Speaker 2: on behalf of Network Ten made what might be described
- 11:08Speaker 2: as a victory tour and express public comments relevant to
- 11:11Speaker 2: the relevant findings, and repeatedly expressed the view the Logi
- 11:14Speaker 2: speech not only did not have the tendency to interfee with
- 11:17Speaker 2: the administration of justice, but presented no difficulty whatsoever.
- 11:21Speaker 1: If you've been listening to the front, you'll know. The
- 11:23Speaker 1: judge demanded an explanation from Ten. He wanted to know
- 11:27Speaker 1: if Ten thought the Logi speech was still a good
- 11:29Speaker 1: idea despite the fact he'd slammed it in his judgment.
- 11:34Speaker 1: This was high stakes stuff for Ten. The risk was
- 11:37Speaker 1: that if the judge was sufficiently annoyed, he could throw
- 11:40Speaker 1: out ten's costs claim altogether and it'd be left footing
- 11:44Speaker 1: its own bill. Ten and its lawyers humbly asked the
- 11:48Speaker 1: judge for forgiveness, saying the remarks were off the cuff
- 11:51Speaker 1: and unintentional, and that ten takes its legal obligations very seriously.
- 11:57Speaker 2: After these issues were raised, further Affidavidson submissions explaining the
- 12:01Speaker 2: considered a current view of Network ten were provided to
- 12:04Speaker 2: the court. This material suggests that Soul of Tarsus, like
- 12:10Speaker 2: the scales, have belatedly fallen from the anthropmomorphic eyes of
- 12:14Speaker 2: Network ten. In the circumstances, no further comment or action
- 12:17Speaker 2: from this court is necessary or appropriate.
- 12:21Speaker 1: So he's given them a scare and we'll leave it there.
- 12:25Speaker 1: Saul of Tarsus, by the way, is also known as
- 12:29Speaker 1: Paul the Apostle. He was cured of blindness in the
- 12:32Speaker 1: Bible when scales like that of a fish fell from
- 12:36Speaker 1: his eyes and he could suddenly see everything clearly.
- 12:42Speaker 2: Coming up.
- 12:43Speaker 1: What the judge said about Brittney Higgins demand Lisa Wilkinson
- 12:46Speaker 1: sack her lawyer. The best coverage of this and all
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- 13:09Speaker 1: back after this break. One of the side shows that
- 13:24Speaker 1: occupied Michael Lee's time during this trial was a cost
- 13:27Speaker 1: dispute between Lisa Wilkinson and her employer's Network ten. That's
- 13:32Speaker 1: still raging, by the way, and it will be determined
- 13:34Speaker 1: by an independent referee who'll decide how much everyone's bills
- 13:38Speaker 1: are and who pays what later this month. But it's
- 13:41Speaker 1: thanks to that cross claim that the court heard a
- 13:43Speaker 1: large amount of evidence about what was going on within
- 13:46Speaker 1: Network ten as its relationship with its star Lisa Wilkinson deteriorated.
- 13:53Speaker 1: The LOGI speech cost Wilkinson her role on the project.
- 13:57Speaker 1: In November twenty twenty two, she made an emotional exit,
- 14:01Speaker 1: positioning it as her decision rather than ten's.
- 14:06Speaker 5: I have had a ball, but for me right now
- 14:10Speaker 5: it's time for a change. To be clear, I'm not
- 14:13Speaker 5: leaving ten and we're looking at some very exciting work
- 14:17Speaker 5: ideas ahead. But I also have to be honest with you.
- 14:21Speaker 3: The last six.
- 14:22Speaker 5: Months have not been easy and the relentless targeted toxicity
- 14:27Speaker 5: by some sections of the media has taken a toll,
- 14:31Speaker 5: not just on me, but on people I love.
- 14:35Speaker 1: Hiring Wilkinson had been a major coup for Ten back
- 14:38Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen. That's because Wilkinson, the popular long term
- 14:42Speaker 1: co host of rival network nine's Today Breakfast program, had
- 14:47Speaker 1: quit Nine on a point of principle she wasn't earning
- 14:50Speaker 1: as much as her male co host, Karl Stefanovic. Wilkinson
- 14:54Speaker 1: then brought in the Higgins story. It had been broken
- 14:58Speaker 1: earlier that day by Samantha Maiden of new Um dot Au,
- 15:01Speaker 1: but the project had Higgins on camera. It was a
- 15:05Speaker 1: rating success that turned into a social juggernaut as Higgins's
- 15:09Speaker 1: story captivated Australians angry about violence against women.
- 15:14Speaker 3: We are all here today not because we want to
- 15:16Speaker 3: be here, but because we have to be here. We
- 15:20Speaker 3: fundamentally recognize the system is broken. We are here because
- 15:24Speaker 3: it's unfathomable. But we are still having to fight the
- 15:28Speaker 3: same stale, tired fight.
- 15:34Speaker 1: But the LOGI speech, which should have been a jewel
- 15:36Speaker 1: in Ten's crown, was tarnished when the act judge reacted
- 15:40Speaker 1: with such fury and delayed the trial. Wilkinson has not
- 15:45Speaker 1: returned to an on air role, even though she's still
- 15:48Speaker 1: employed by Ten. Documents tended to court show Wilkinson felt
- 15:52Speaker 1: abandoned and betrayed by Ten. She insisted Ten and its
- 15:57Speaker 1: lawyers had approved the speech and even asked to make
- 16:00Speaker 1: it as a deliberate show of support for Brittney Higgins.
- 16:05Speaker 1: Wilkinson was right, and part of tense humiliation in this
- 16:08Speaker 1: trial was that its treatment of Wilkinson was laid bare.
- 16:16Speaker 1: When Bruce Lahman first indicated he was suing Lisa, Wilkinson
- 16:19Speaker 1: hired her own solicitors and barrister Prominent Senior Council Sucris Amfu,
- 16:24Speaker 1: and that turned into another dispute with Ten. Buried in
- 16:28Speaker 1: all the documents that surfaced in the cross claim, but
- 16:31Speaker 1: found by Justice Lee was an unusual request from Brittaney
- 16:35Speaker 1: Higgins solicitor Leon's wire well before this trial kicked off.
- 16:39Speaker 6: It is important for your clients to appreciate that Brittany
- 16:42Speaker 6: is doing so on the basis that your clients will
- 16:45Speaker 6: not offer Luhman a payment of damages or a retraction
- 16:49Speaker 6: of the defamatory statements, or an apology or costs or
- 16:53Speaker 6: any other relief to settle the civil claims commenced by
- 16:57Speaker 6: Lerhman against your clients. For the avoidance of any misunderstandings,
- 17:03Speaker 6: Brittany has instructed me not to assist lawyers and counsel
- 17:06Speaker 6: currently retained by Lisa Wilkinson to defend civil claims commenced
- 17:12Speaker 6: by Luhmann against Lisa Wilkinson. I am not prepared to
- 17:16Speaker 6: work with Lisa's current senior counsel under any circumstances.
- 17:21Speaker 1: There's a complicated backstory. Chrisanfu had acted for Brittany Higgins
- 17:26Speaker 1: in the past briefly, but some of her other prominent
- 17:29Speaker 1: cases had included acting for Jeffrey Rush, the actor who
- 17:32Speaker 1: successfully sued for defamation over sexual harassment claims, and former
- 17:36Speaker 1: Attorney General Christian Porter, who also faced unproven claims of
- 17:40Speaker 1: sexual misconduct. But there's a rule barristers have to act
- 17:45Speaker 1: for any client that asks, unless they've got a conflict
- 17:48Speaker 1: of interest or are already engaged. So the judge came
- 17:52Speaker 1: in strongly on the side of Chrisanthu. He noted that
- 17:56Speaker 1: after Leon's Wire's email, Ten did make Laman an offer
- 18:00Speaker 1: to settle, but it didn't include any damages or apology
- 18:04Speaker 1: Justice Higgins had requested. The judge also noted that ten's boss,
- 18:08Speaker 1: Beverly mcgavey had repeatedly tried to get Lisa Wilkinson to
- 18:11Speaker 1: drop Suchrisantheu and the solicitors Leon's Wire had objected to.
- 18:17Speaker 1: Ten denied that acted on the demands in Leon's Wire's letter.
- 18:21Speaker 1: The judge found that, curious.
- 18:23Speaker 2: By reason of the fact that Miss mcgavey, on behalf
- 18:26Speaker 2: of Network ten at least twice expressly referred to the
- 18:28Speaker 2: conditions as a reason why Miss Wilkinson should replace her
- 18:31Speaker 2: chosen senior council, it appeared to me available to infer
- 18:35Speaker 2: that what might be thought to be the appropriate response
- 18:38Speaker 2: to Miss Higgins solicitor was not conveyed. That would have
- 18:41Speaker 2: been to say, with respect that if Miss Higgins did
- 18:43Speaker 2: not wish to operate with Network ten without imposing conditions
- 18:46Speaker 2: upon representation of a party and potential sediment options, then
- 18:50Speaker 2: Miss Higgins will need to be subpoened and shall be
- 18:53Speaker 2: obliged to assist a court of justice in coming along
- 18:56Speaker 2: to tell the truth until excused.
- 18:59Speaker 1: Ultimately, the judge said he accepted the reassurances of Ten's counsel,
- 19:02Speaker 1: Matt Collins Casey that Ten had not felt itself bound
- 19:05Speaker 1: by the Zoia letter. So here's what the judge ruled
- 19:12Speaker 1: on costs. Ten and Wilkinson can recover costs from Laman
- 19:15Speaker 1: on an indemnity basis. That means the vast majority of
- 19:19Speaker 1: the bill, but that only applies to the truth defense,
- 19:22Speaker 1: which they won. On the other defense qualified privilege, which
- 19:26Speaker 1: they lost, Ten and Wilkinson can recover costs on an
- 19:29Speaker 1: ordinary or party to party basis, which means about seventy
- 19:33Speaker 1: percent of its costs. There are a couple of exceptions,
- 19:36Speaker 1: but it's the best result Ten and Wilkinson could have
- 19:38Speaker 1: hoped for. The matter comes back to court on May
- 19:41Speaker 1: twenty seven, when the judge will decide the terms of
- 19:43Speaker 1: reference for the referee. He'll sort out exactly how big
- 19:47Speaker 1: the bills are and who pays what, And then it
- 19:50Speaker 1: was over, But for one last Michael Lee Mike.
- 19:54Speaker 2: Drop I published my reasons call the next matter.
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