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Nadine Sutherland On Being Bob Marley's Protege, Whining, Afrobeats, Angela Yee Day + More · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: In the morning Breakfast Club Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy,
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Speaker 1: Angela Yee, Charlemagne the guy. We are the breakfast Club.
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Speaker 1: We got a special guest in the building. Yes, not
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Speaker 1: just a special guest, she is a legend. Well introduce
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Speaker 1: it the right waiting Nadine Sutherland. Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty excited.
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Speaker 1: Legend Ardane something I don't sound too bad, but think
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Speaker 1: about it. It is legendary. I mean, you've been in
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Speaker 1: this business for over forty years. Most people can't say that. Yes, yes, yes,
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Speaker 1: it's going December. I think it's the last Thursday in December.
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Speaker 1: It's going to be forty three years. Wow. Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: want TC Italian contest. When I was eleven in Jamaica,
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Speaker 1: I love to both. I was the first winner. There
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Speaker 1: you go. And then immediately I started working with um
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Speaker 1: Tough Gong and not the Helm at that time was
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Speaker 1: Bob Marley. So I had the wonderful experience of working
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Speaker 1: My first recording session was with Bob. Who can say
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Speaker 1: that my first immediately say that because sometimes I pinch myself, like,
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Speaker 1: you know, we'll tell us how it was getting into
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Speaker 1: the industry back then, and how your grind was and
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Speaker 1: the journey was when you first started off. It was
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Speaker 1: so natural and a little bit easier for me because
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Speaker 1: I was always a little girl singing on stage, singing
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Speaker 1: around a community. So I guess I was considered somewhat
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Speaker 1: a little bit precocious. Grandma to catch me singing on
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Speaker 1: a jukebox and give me to slap in my head.
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Speaker 1: It was, you know, young ladies were not supposed to
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Speaker 1: be able to move their waistline like oh I did
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Speaker 1: as a little child, you know. And then somebody saw me,
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Speaker 1: and it was somebody in my community who entered Tasty
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Speaker 1: Talan contest and he came back and he was lighting Nadine.
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Speaker 1: I think it would be good for you, and I
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Speaker 1: did it. The first round I won, and in the
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Speaker 1: second round, the grand Finals, which was in December, I won,
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Speaker 1: and part of my prize was a recording contract with
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Speaker 1: Tough Gong, but by that time was alive. That was
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Speaker 1: his vision because you know, if you know about Molly's story,
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Speaker 1: I heard from my father that's his name, Zoe Whalers,
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Speaker 1: because they wheeled so much because of the pain that
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Speaker 1: they experienced through you know, some unscrupulous producer. So he
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Speaker 1: wanted life for younger artists to be better. So he
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Speaker 1: facilitated that with his stuff gone. You know, at that time,
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Speaker 1: a big superstar and everything. So I got that opportunity
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Speaker 1: as an eleven year old girl recording my first song,
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Speaker 1: Starvation on the line. He was in the studio because
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Speaker 1: you know, I was a little his little project. I
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Speaker 1: didn't spend a lot of time with him because you know,
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Speaker 1: after that, I think he transitioned the next year, went
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Speaker 1: on to Zion. Yeah, so that was my start and
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Speaker 1: I was just you know, I wanted to tal in
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Speaker 1: contest and I went in so at that time it
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Speaker 1: was really difficult. You know. I got to ask you
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Speaker 1: this because obviously we know you from terif Fabulous the
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Speaker 1: song Action. How old were you when you did that song?
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Speaker 1: I think I did a song that was I call
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Speaker 1: it my second comment. I did that song Action was
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Speaker 1: probably done when I was twenty three as a demo
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Speaker 1: and then yeah, it was a demo for me. But
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Speaker 1: because at that time I went to London, I auditioned
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Speaker 1: for Soul to Soul. Karen Wheeler left the whole story
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Speaker 1: behind that. I was a girl that was chosen to
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Speaker 1: be the front girl. The managers hated each other and
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Speaker 1: I think heat is very mild. They it was like
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Speaker 1: they disliked each other. There's no word to describe that. So,
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Speaker 1: you know, my manager then suggested that I come back
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Speaker 1: to Jamaica and do danceall, which was okay for me,
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Speaker 1: you know, because that was my Cultureney they were trying
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Speaker 1: to steer me into more and more R and B line.
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Speaker 1: So I came back to Jamaica did Action as a
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Speaker 1: demo four Dave Kelly. But what happened is that the
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Speaker 1: rhythm those took off in the dancealls. So if you
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Speaker 1: see the journey of Action, it's very, very very strange.
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Speaker 1: You see. Initially was Knitting Souland and Terri Fabulous because
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Speaker 1: I was old there before the dancall of the nineties
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Speaker 1: came out. I was a child star in the eighties.
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Speaker 1: So it was released into Jamaica, then was released in
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Speaker 1: the ethnic market, and then Terra got signed to East
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Speaker 1: West Ra, so because it was their artists, they had Terrifabulous.
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Speaker 1: But then they asked me to come in the video,
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Speaker 1: and a maturing dancers that I'll come in the video.
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Speaker 1: I'll go in the video, and then I took out
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Speaker 1: the responsibility of getting the dance together the choreography because
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Speaker 1: I didn't modern and Bali and African and dance all dance.
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Speaker 1: So I was like, yeah, so they only had terrif Fabulous,
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Speaker 1: But I think I showed up and showed out. Yes, yeah,
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Speaker 1: and by the time they want they signed me. So
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Speaker 1: initially when it burst in the scene, it was terrifabulous,
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Speaker 1: and then after when they signed may see the terri
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Speaker 1: Fabulous featuring the the in Sutherland. So that's a history
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Speaker 1: of action and it's still being a history because I
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Speaker 1: still can't believe that it's yes. I'm like, you actually
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Speaker 1: did the death plate for Kamala Harris for her campaign.
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Speaker 1: I did with the Action, I was asked and yeah
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Speaker 1: I did. Yeah. Did you get paid the money you're
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Speaker 1: supposed to get paid back then? Because I remember, especially
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Speaker 1: all the artists, like it just felt like record just
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Speaker 1: kept coming and signing them and it was just the
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Speaker 1: place and they were just taking off. Did you actually
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Speaker 1: get paid things like, Um, I didn't write actions, so
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't get the publishing, okay, But then when I
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Speaker 1: phoned out about performance royalties, which as a performer on
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Speaker 1: the song, I think it was a little bit too late. Um,
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Speaker 1: in terms. I do still get royaltists from action, but
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Speaker 1: I believe that if I understood the business a little
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Speaker 1: bit more, I would probably be a little bit richer,
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Speaker 1: which we're in complainment were like money So so now
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Speaker 1: you also were on Wicked Dicky. Yeah, classic song and
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Speaker 1: I remember singing that as a kid, not knowing what
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Speaker 1: I was talking about. Angels. That's a lot of story
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Speaker 1: though with Wikied DICKI though, because Wicked Dickie. It was
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Speaker 1: weekend on weekend on wild a nice wonderful song, Oh
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Speaker 1: what oh? And bo had Dicky Dicky. So I was
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Speaker 1: in London UM one year and I was at my
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Speaker 1: friend's host and I went to a Dreamerican Um recording
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Speaker 1: studio record a selling place, and the man's record sir.
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Speaker 1: A man said congratulation and your number one song with
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Speaker 1: Butcher Banton. And I'm like, what are you talking about, sir?
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Speaker 1: And that I'm meeting summers back in Jamaica. You know
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Speaker 1: you should speak a certain way young ladies. I was like, Sir,
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Speaker 1: I don't have a song with Boujer Branton. I'm say,
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Speaker 1: my girl, you have a song with Ban And I'm like, Sir,
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Speaker 1: I do not have a song with ban, and the
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Speaker 1: man started to get angry and all kind of wheezled
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Speaker 1: me and I'm gonna blu you. So by that time
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Speaker 1: he was heated. But I just never knew. And when
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Speaker 1: I heard my song and I heard, oh what then
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Speaker 1: the unmistakable voice the Banton going Dickie dick. So that's
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Speaker 1: how I went on. I was like, you know, when
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Speaker 1: I go back to Jamaica, I wasted Donovan Jereman and
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Speaker 1: we're habital with him. So that's how I learned that
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Speaker 1: I had a song called Wicked Dick and he won't
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Speaker 1: perform that song anymore now, right, because I guess ever since, um,
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Speaker 1: you know, he came home, he doesn't do those songs
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Speaker 1: like I have no idea we haven't performed. Really, I
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Speaker 1: never knew that. Um, I mean, I'm not sure if
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Speaker 1: that's still too, but I remember at first they were
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Speaker 1: saying like he's not doing any of those type of songs.
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Speaker 1: When I performed, Um, it's the funnest thing a perform.
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Speaker 1: And performed my song and then the crowd will nicely
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Speaker 1: just do budge part because it's such it's such an
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Speaker 1: iconic song. Say it is like I'm like, oh, and
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Speaker 1: then the whole crowd, so I have no choice, So
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Speaker 1: no thankful that was that that happened a lot when
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Speaker 1: you put vocals down and then could you come back
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Speaker 1: three months later and then into singy be like, oh,
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Speaker 1: that was the first time that has ever happened. And
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Speaker 1: you know who's complaining? I mean that that guy's become
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Speaker 1: another iconic song of mine, apart from action, I would say,
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Speaker 1: after action is wicker Dickie? Yeah? How were you protected
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Speaker 1: in the industry at such a young age? At eleven
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Speaker 1: years old? You know, being in this business which can
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Speaker 1: be really tough, especially for our young girl too, so
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Speaker 1: coming up like who was around you to make sure
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Speaker 1: that you were good? You know, I must say there
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Speaker 1: were definitely a predatory let me get it out there.
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Speaker 1: You know, we have some sick people in the world.
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Speaker 1: But what I'm very very thankful for is that I
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Speaker 1: had a father, and that a father who could see
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Speaker 1: what I couldn't see is the eyes were accustomed to
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Speaker 1: I guess whole men would look at women. So I
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Speaker 1: was working around with I'm eleven or a kid, come on,
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Speaker 1: just getting into high school. So I'm very thankful that
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Speaker 1: I had a strong male figure in my life. That
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Speaker 1: was a lion. He was a lion, you know, and
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Speaker 1: you know, I cannot thank him enough because I basically
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Speaker 1: went through a stage of my life being able to
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Speaker 1: be a kid and being unscathed by a lot of
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Speaker 1: stuff that is in the music industry right now. Even
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Speaker 1: my comfort zone, you know, when I go in and
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Speaker 1: where it's my family, I always say my posse, it's
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Speaker 1: my family. So I keep it really tight in my
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Speaker 1: life because I feel more comfortable, you know, just being
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Speaker 1: our own people who who know me, and you know, yeah,
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Speaker 1: and after Big Up, Missus Marley also she had girl children.
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Speaker 1: She had you know, young women, Tidela and Sharan, so
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Speaker 1: she understood about protecting young women and at the stage
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Speaker 1: of my life, along with my father, she was very
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Speaker 1: very protective. So Forbig the mom, I saw you put
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Speaker 1: her in the video Queen, Yes, that you did. And
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Speaker 1: Miss pat isn't that dare pictures Porsha Simpson who was
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Speaker 1: the first Jamaican Prime Minister, m first Jamaican female prime minister,
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Speaker 1: and Babsy Grange And I chose those women specifically because
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Speaker 1: I felt that they embodied what the lyrics of Queen
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Speaker 1: is all about. And YouTube I heard how you're going
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Speaker 1: on do your own thing. Oh yeah, yes, that's I'm
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Speaker 1: excited because this queen will be performing at Angela yee day.
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Speaker 1: I just saw you too and Queen's and yeah. I
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Speaker 1: was like, oh wait, is that Nady settling up there.
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Speaker 1: I wasn't sure if they were playing your music or
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Speaker 1: if you were performing it at first, and I was like, oh,
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Speaker 1: she's really here. I had a great time. I'm not sure.
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Speaker 1: Roy Wilkins right, the VP jerk Fest. Yeah, still living
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Speaker 1: it because I got a chance to bubble. I was like,
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Speaker 1: oh my god, an opportunity, so wine on myself as
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Speaker 1: well a dog wall. Do you still enjoy? You still
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Speaker 1: enjoy traveling and performing and whining and dancing? I do,
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Speaker 1: And you know, I'm really thankful, Like every day for
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Speaker 1: me as a performer is a blessing because I basically
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Speaker 1: I am able to do what I could do years ago.
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Speaker 1: I'm a trained answer. I'm into exercise at all, not
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Speaker 1: one way, not wanting, went wanting, but I protected because
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Speaker 1: I know that, you know, I guess getting there, I
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Speaker 1: was like, Okay, I'm not gonna do the extra squads,
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Speaker 1: yeah right right, But every day is a blessing for
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Speaker 1: me even, like I was saying to my friend from
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Speaker 1: VP Neil, I was pinching myself as like three years
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Speaker 1: ago I did my masters, I was the director for
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Speaker 1: the performing arts at a school and here, man, I'm
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Speaker 1: on the birthfastlovel Oh my god, oh my god. I'm
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Speaker 1: like I never even thought in my life that at
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Speaker 1: this stage that I was be still be still in music.
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Speaker 1: So I always say music chose me is like my
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Speaker 1: destiny and I'm just a little small part in it
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Speaker 1: just being played. And when it did slow down, because
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Speaker 1: obviously it did slow down, what did you do during
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Speaker 1: that time? Because their school to school, go school, got
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Speaker 1: your masters? You went to UI, right, yeah, I went
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Speaker 1: to the University of the West Statis And I was like, okay,
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Speaker 1: so all right, you know, you know you have to
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Speaker 1: change course right now. It's a different kind of life.
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Speaker 1: And I basically sat in the space of acceptance and
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Speaker 1: I was like, okay, if this was a plan for
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Speaker 1: my god, this is what it is. And the ringing again,
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Speaker 1: I don't even I don't even know what happened. I
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Speaker 1: can't even tell you what happened. I know that it
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Speaker 1: was coming up to Nadine forty forty years that I
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Speaker 1: was in the music industry, and I guess, you know,
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Speaker 1: teaching got disrupted. That's an a story. That's another story.
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Speaker 1: And I went home and I'm like, I owe it
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Speaker 1: to myself. I owe it to my legacy, to the
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Speaker 1: energy evolved. I owe it to the energy of reach
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Speaker 1: of all those people who stood with me, my parents,
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Speaker 1: to celebrate my forty a year. It was going good,
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Speaker 1: machinery was going and then all my friends I was
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Speaker 1: going to have this big show in Jamaica. Sparga said yes,
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Speaker 1: Vega said yes, Marcis said yes. Third World. I was
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Speaker 1: really psyched. Corporate Jamaica was coming on board, and the
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Speaker 1: wonderful thing named COVID comus Oh, and then Jamaica said,
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Speaker 1: COVID much up my life. It didn't marsh up my life,
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Speaker 1: but you know, like for one week, I was not
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Speaker 1: done because the reality of that, the fortieth year and
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Speaker 1: everything that was I was planning, and then I don't
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Speaker 1: know what happened. This was Old music started releasing. I
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Speaker 1: started doing interviews and I did Queen because I thought
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Speaker 1: that Queen exemplified my life and a lot of women
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Speaker 1: life and the story of what we've been through. And
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Speaker 1: I don't know I'm here this morning. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I can't tell you. It's like, there's no way. I
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Speaker 1: was like, I can't tell you anything. So how impressed
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Speaker 1: were your parents when you were eleven years old? And
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Speaker 1: did they get to meet Bob Marley and coming, Oh god,
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Speaker 1: my father my father found old bad. I find oh
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Speaker 1: because you know my father, you know black in the
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Speaker 1: days well still is a Pan African is and you
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Speaker 1: know then it had Rastafier ideals, became a Rastafier later
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Speaker 1: in his life. So he's a man of the seventies.
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Speaker 1: And if you understood the control the cultural context of
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Speaker 1: what popular culture was, it was like a lot of Rastafire,
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Speaker 1: a lot of Pan Africanism. So he was a man
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Speaker 1: of his time. So when he met Bob, when I
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Speaker 1: also then when I met Bob, so I was like
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Speaker 1: mm hmm, okay, Bob Barney. My father was like basically
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Speaker 1: wanted to kiss his feet because that was his hero,
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Speaker 1: you know. So I don't think mommy, I don't think
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Speaker 1: my mother met Bob, but my father show. Yes. I
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Speaker 1: gotta ask you, what is your diet? Like you look
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Speaker 1: amazing just to see just even from when you were younger,
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Speaker 1: up until now, Like what's your self care routine? My
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Speaker 1: self care routine is I say, I'm a flexitarian, so
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Speaker 1: I can't go vegan for a while, and then I
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Speaker 1: eat seafood, but I don't go over. I'm not an
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Speaker 1: excessive eater and I'm not an excessive eater of carves um.
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Speaker 1: I don't smoke, and I take my red wine in
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Speaker 1: the evenings, probably that I don't excessively drink. I drink
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Speaker 1: a lot of water. And you know, I danced back
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Speaker 1: in the day, so I still go dance glasses, I
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Speaker 1: still go to the gym. I still do a lot
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Speaker 1: of car deal because you know, especially no that I'm
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Speaker 1: getting back on stage and when the music hit me,
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Speaker 1: I feeling no pain. I love to dance and I
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Speaker 1: love to and I love to entertain, so that too.
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Speaker 1: But I think a lot I have to do in
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Speaker 1: my mindset. I'm a meditator. I'm into spiritualism. I remember
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Speaker 1: I wanted to shat meaning I wasn't say that interview
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Speaker 1: it did with Deep Actop was so impressive. So I
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Speaker 1: really try to keep myself in a zone of positivity.
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Speaker 1: And just like I believe that good health is a
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Speaker 1: holistic thing, it's a mind body thing and I'm into
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Speaker 1: all of that. So I think that that has helped me.
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Speaker 1: What did you realize you made it? What was the
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Speaker 1: first time that you like, Wow, I made it and
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Speaker 1: I make it it? Yeah, when did you realize? Was
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Speaker 1: it your first show? You know? Was it your first
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Speaker 1: show in London and the US? It was it? I've
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Speaker 1: never even like, what was the first time you'd be like, wow,
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Speaker 1: I man gonna ta that? True? Men, I think him
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Speaker 1: to make it yet because my career has been you know,
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Speaker 1: seeing so many highs, seen so many lows. Um, there's
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Speaker 1: so much more that I want to do as an artist.
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Speaker 1: So and if I think that to your may kids,
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Speaker 1: I don't when anything you make it. You don't work
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Speaker 1: as hard as I do. You don't go on stage
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Speaker 1: and perform like I do. So I don't want to
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Speaker 1: get in a space that I am complacent and I
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Speaker 1: think I've made it. I want to go I always
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Speaker 1: in a space like what can I do to improve myself?
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Speaker 1: What can I do to be a better performer? Okay?
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Speaker 1: So the wine them because I want to look at
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Speaker 1: bit more right there? I shake kid, right there? Could
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Speaker 1: I do something more? Okay? So I go out doing
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Speaker 1: my vocals, I'm like, okay, so okay that song. You know,
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Speaker 1: like some people that can't deal with me when I'm
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Speaker 1: doing my vocals because like you're so excessive. I'm like,
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Speaker 1: this is gonna be on record for the rest of
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Speaker 1: my life. So I don't think I've made it because
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Speaker 1: I don't want to get in that space I'm making it.
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Speaker 1: You talk about whining, right, so as a young girl,
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Speaker 1: you know young girls whine, Yes in America, I guess
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Speaker 1: it would work. Yeah. The other day, I guess somebody
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Speaker 1: was performing at a high school and people had as
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Speaker 1: if she's twenty three years old. I didn't have a
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Speaker 1: problem with it because when I was in high school,
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Speaker 1: my wife was whining on her head, you know what
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Speaker 1: I mean? That was the dance back right. I didn't
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Speaker 1: see anything wrong. So what do you tell because even
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Speaker 1: you said your grandmother or your mother popped trying, right,
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Speaker 1: So what you say to those people, because that's you know,
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Speaker 1: the funniest thing. I did cultural studies, and one of
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Speaker 1: the things that I recognize is what you call sell
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Speaker 1: it or memory and people who are have Africa in them,
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Speaker 1: and that don't necessarily means that you're sitting there blood.
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Speaker 1: But it's also in your culture. And I like some
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Speaker 1: places of Latin America, I know this. A lot of
16:51
Speaker 1: people wine. We wine, we use their barducks, and we
16:55
Speaker 1: talk people who are exposed to that kind of culture. Unfortunately,
16:59
Speaker 1: people see through different lenses and you know, you see
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Speaker 1: it and it's associated with a kind of life, and
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Speaker 1: unfortunately it is usually complimented with a certain lifestyle. I
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Speaker 1: knew when I was whining, I just could dance and
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Speaker 1: I thought it was wonderful. And I think sometimes a
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Speaker 1: lot of young people who are whining is something that,
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Speaker 1: as I say, Sellaer, it's cultural. They're just wine. And
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Speaker 1: people see through different lenses and sometimes it's some Victorian lenses,
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Speaker 1: and it don't necessarily mean that it's you know, sexual, right,
17:34
Speaker 1: But then in some sense when you look at the
17:36
Speaker 1: where it came from in terms of sex, let's speak honestly,
17:40
Speaker 1: with sex, there's a lot of stuff with sex. Sexes
17:42
Speaker 1: are very natural thing, being sexualal is natural. I guess
17:49
Speaker 1: there are narratives that they associated with, and I guess
17:52
Speaker 1: in some sense, when you associate sexuality with certain narratives,
17:55
Speaker 1: it become this darkened evil thing which is not in Africa,
17:59
Speaker 1: it was celebrated to that something as natural. So when
18:01
Speaker 1: they do like that, it's life. This is all you came,
18:03
Speaker 1: this is all I came. It's a part of life.
18:05
Speaker 1: Sexuality is a part of life. Unfortunately some things that
18:09
Speaker 1: aren't no attached to it. I believe in time and
18:12
Speaker 1: space and understand that irrespective we can intellectual license and
18:18
Speaker 1: I have this explanation. Society dictates certain things. So you're
18:22
Speaker 1: a stigmond space, and I don't believe in some sense
18:25
Speaker 1: that certain in certain spaces, certain things should be done
18:30
Speaker 1: because of certain attachment to those actions. So I don't
18:34
Speaker 1: know what happened. You're giving me a very very wide thing.
18:38
Speaker 1: Example you okay, the dance wine away? What about going
18:41
Speaker 1: to carnival? Right? And so let's just say, you know,
18:45
Speaker 1: my man goes to carnival and then I see video
18:47
Speaker 1: of him all up on these girls and he's like, no,
18:51
Speaker 1: it's nothing, that's just the culture of it. And that's
18:53
Speaker 1: that's a culture of it. But again, you know, I
18:55
Speaker 1: don't know if my mind got kind of a I
18:56
Speaker 1: mey seeing my home. Pam Pump appreciates it. Let's be honest,
19:01
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, um, honey and mummmmmmmmm. So no, and
19:06
Speaker 1: you're not gonna let anybody grind up on you. No, Na, Na,
19:13
Speaker 1: you're not wearing dagon me, You're not we wind up
19:14
Speaker 1: on me. I believe in some sense that if I
19:17
Speaker 1: choose somebody to dance and dagger with with, you know
19:20
Speaker 1: probably probably, you know, probably I'm from a different kind
19:23
Speaker 1: of age group and a different kind of mentality, But
19:25
Speaker 1: I do want to no man, come behind, man, come
19:27
Speaker 1: dag on me or whatsoever, and not for entertainment purposes
19:30
Speaker 1: at all. I was going to ask, what are your
19:32
Speaker 1: thoughts on afrobeats, because afrobeats niceness, niceness, it comes from dance. Yeah,
19:39
Speaker 1: you know, it's amazing to see just everything in terms
19:42
Speaker 1: of culture and the influence of as I say, Africa,
19:46
Speaker 1: you know, because dancehall is soul is where our music
19:49
Speaker 1: is concerned. It's the most Africa and in terms of
19:51
Speaker 1: the speaking and the rhythm and to say that, to
19:53
Speaker 1: go right back to Africa and it's the same thing.
19:55
Speaker 1: So He's just like, it's like it was exciting when
19:58
Speaker 1: I heard afrobeats. I was like, look at the world,
20:00
Speaker 1: you know, it's always this mixture and people listening and
20:03
Speaker 1: people you know, ingesting stuff and then reproducing it and
20:06
Speaker 1: it's just so exciting. And then new cultural forms, new
20:09
Speaker 1: cultural forms always emerge and all of that. Like a
20:13
Speaker 1: cultural studies scholar, art I don't know what do you
20:17
Speaker 1: like today? Like what young are? Younger artists are you
20:20
Speaker 1: like they're next? I would love to work with them. Well,
20:23
Speaker 1: coffee is the next. She's doing what she's going. I
20:26
Speaker 1: love coffee. I love everything about her as a writer. Um.
20:29
Speaker 1: Some of Shan Shares songs I like very very much.
20:33
Speaker 1: UM Like I like chronics, chronics, I love chronics nowadays.
20:40
Speaker 1: You know some of the stuff that Jada Kingdom does,
20:45
Speaker 1: I mean she I have one, and I guess some
20:47
Speaker 1: people find it obscene, but I find it's very creative.
20:50
Speaker 1: I can look at the work of art and I
20:52
Speaker 1: am not a woman who likes a lot of profanity,
20:54
Speaker 1: but I can see artistry in music. And I really
20:58
Speaker 1: like her new song. I can't say the acronym g
21:02
Speaker 1: p P. I like Thams who Tams who names? You
21:10
Speaker 1: probably heard of the song she's on the Essence song
21:12
Speaker 1: with whis Kids. She's like she's an but I'm gonna
21:17
Speaker 1: check her out. Probably I hear are and I don't know,
21:19
Speaker 1: because a lot of artists, I know, they're songs that
21:22
Speaker 1: I'm not really familiar with their name because it's so
21:23
Speaker 1: unimportant and I just always there. She's on the Essence
21:26
Speaker 1: record Essence. Okay, cool, I'll check her out. Man, who
21:29
Speaker 1: was your mount rushmore of danceall artists? So I'm stuck
21:33
Speaker 1: in the nightties. All right, I'm stuck in the nightties. Okay,
21:39
Speaker 1: this is what Colin. I can't take terrifabulous, terrifabulous. One more. Um,
21:50
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think about artists, try with writing and
21:54
Speaker 1: all of that. Um. I like Bonty it's essenc and
21:59
Speaker 1: its person and everything that he comes with and miss
22:01
Speaker 1: some miserable back in the days as well. Yeah, the
22:07
Speaker 1: voice signed. The whole posture was, you know, the menacing thing.
22:10
Speaker 1: I think that you know, so you love the verses
22:12
Speaker 1: with Bounty Killer and being a man? Oh my god,
22:18
Speaker 1: one more being a man. I have to put that
22:21
Speaker 1: versus was my Oh my goodness, it was we in
22:24
Speaker 1: the pandemic. Was in the pandemic? I win that versus game.
22:27
Speaker 1: I was the happiest woman because you know, I was
22:29
Speaker 1: on my veranda and I was skinning notes and I
22:31
Speaker 1: was broken notes and it lifted my energy so much.
22:35
Speaker 1: You know, I feel like that was the best versus
22:37
Speaker 1: that they had because that's what I think was just
22:40
Speaker 1: coming from dance hall like versus is. Yeah, basically like
22:43
Speaker 1: a gosh, yes, I'm glad you you know used to
22:48
Speaker 1: see that link. Yeah, it was so incredible for me.
22:50
Speaker 1: I just remember and the police kept coming and knocking.
22:55
Speaker 1: You want to I want to be that guy. It
22:59
Speaker 1: was a kid. Yeah. I saw Snow did an interview
23:04
Speaker 1: with Vlad and he was talking about how anything for you,
23:07
Speaker 1: how that song is really and at first it was
23:09
Speaker 1: just you featured on that song. Yeah, and that's why
23:11
Speaker 1: it really got him to cross over where they respected
23:15
Speaker 1: him in Jamaica after doing that song because he was
23:18
Speaker 1: going really hard. He's I think Canada. Yes, he's from Canada.
23:21
Speaker 1: So how did you end up getting on that song?
23:23
Speaker 1: I was signed to UM East West Electra and UM
23:26
Speaker 1: they were about to put up my project. That's where
23:29
Speaker 1: I don't know what politically happened at that time in
23:31
Speaker 1: my life. So they thought that, you know, after action,
23:33
Speaker 1: to feature me on Snow, which you know, had a
23:35
Speaker 1: big hit, would informa it would be nice you know,
23:38
Speaker 1: to expand my market. So I ended up on that
23:41
Speaker 1: song they in Southernland, Snow Forget, and then they had
23:46
Speaker 1: the remix Oh my God, and I have to put up.
23:50
Speaker 1: They showed up, but they showed out all the lyrics
23:53
Speaker 1: that you heard, and the performance was done right there.
23:56
Speaker 1: They taped, they wrote, they dj they did everything and
24:00
Speaker 1: filmed at the same time. So that's why sometimes when
24:03
Speaker 1: it comes on to the ninetiest artist, I tend to
24:06
Speaker 1: be like, I'm you know, just like giving them the
24:10
Speaker 1: honor and the prison because I see them in their
24:12
Speaker 1: mastery and especially at that moment you could I give
24:16
Speaker 1: you as mine and so right on the spot that
24:20
Speaker 1: was done. So they just wanted me to show up
24:23
Speaker 1: being cute. So that's why. And you're good friends with
24:27
Speaker 1: like we're tan you Stevens too, right? Is that I
24:30
Speaker 1: can't say she's my good friend. We respect each other
24:33
Speaker 1: artistically and we respect each other as women. I love
24:36
Speaker 1: what she has done and being very honest and candid
24:39
Speaker 1: about her journey in terms of you know, being an
24:42
Speaker 1: abuser and taking control and you know, taking control of
24:46
Speaker 1: it artistically. I mean as a writer, she's just there
24:50
Speaker 1: and she read me too, so we read each other
24:52
Speaker 1: as women. Can't say she's my friend. I'm not gonna
24:54
Speaker 1: go to her house. She don't come to mind. But
24:56
Speaker 1: when we see each other is mutual respect and love
24:58
Speaker 1: because she's one of our best Were there other women
25:01
Speaker 1: in the business that you actually would consider like that's
25:04
Speaker 1: my Homieum to tell you one woman that I would
25:11
Speaker 1: consider that just my homies. Lady G. We don't see
25:14
Speaker 1: each other a lot, but she's a very very nice person.
25:17
Speaker 1: As I said before, I'm not a person who you
25:19
Speaker 1: see a lot. I don't. I tend to be with
25:21
Speaker 1: my family. That's my comfort zone. So even like some
25:24
Speaker 1: of the industrial stuff, sometimes I really don't even go,
25:27
Speaker 1: you know, I just show up. Yeah, but on stage, no,
25:31
Speaker 1: You'll think I'm a party girl. I'm good at watching videos,
25:36
Speaker 1: so that's it. So I'm not really a Lady G
25:38
Speaker 1: in terms of she's a very sincere and beautiful heart.
25:41
Speaker 1: That's she's really really a beautiful person. Now, before you
25:44
Speaker 1: came back to Jamaica, like you said to do dance hall.
25:46
Speaker 1: After you had left, what type of music where you
25:49
Speaker 1: supposed to do? He thought I was supposed to do
25:51
Speaker 1: some R and B, some Whitney Sun's stuff, you know,
25:53
Speaker 1: because they thought that someone had a voice for that,
25:56
Speaker 1: which is songs didn't sound that bad. I revisited one
26:00
Speaker 1: Um Simon who worked with Soul to Soul. I read visit.
26:03
Speaker 1: He did an album and I got to do the song.
26:05
Speaker 1: I actually audition for Solta sol I got the part.
26:08
Speaker 1: I did it on the album. I remember the name
26:10
Speaker 1: of the song. It's so many things happened in my life.
26:13
Speaker 1: You were going to be part of Soul to Soul.
26:15
Speaker 1: I was always going to be the next guy. And
26:17
Speaker 1: that's right, Oh yeah, you did say kid, Yeah, okay.
26:19
Speaker 1: So what should people expect from you this weekend? Of
26:22
Speaker 1: course it's Angelie Day. She does this each and every year.
26:25
Speaker 1: And what should the people expect from you? Well, they
26:28
Speaker 1: should expect me be bringing who I am. I love performing,
26:33
Speaker 1: I love my stage. I love everything that I do
26:36
Speaker 1: um whining and dancing and singing. The last year Angelie
26:40
Speaker 1: had was a grandmother out there whining. She needed some help.
26:46
Speaker 1: She was with Noah Poa and she definitely got on
26:48
Speaker 1: the ground and was going crazy. Usually class before, like
26:53
Speaker 1: right before you teach people how to whine, yeah, and
26:56
Speaker 1: then you go in all right, I probably have our
26:58
Speaker 1: whining competition. I'm I might do that. Yes, they can't.
27:04
Speaker 1: I always see guys winning, especially No, it's okay. Back
27:07
Speaker 1: in the days, mine my never did want to whining.
27:09
Speaker 1: And it's just like, you know, it's like, yeah, I
27:11
Speaker 1: was just like, no, only women want. They strained so
27:14
Speaker 1: much drastically because I'm seeing men whining and they're doing
27:18
Speaker 1: a very very good job of whining. So yeah, mine can.
27:21
Speaker 1: When you ask me, da wan wine, no drag you
27:24
Speaker 1: up in on Saturday, I said, come to a bad
27:26
Speaker 1: wine and we and they could do it. And where's
27:28
Speaker 1: a waste trainer? We actually have video. It was a joke,
27:34
Speaker 1: Oh my god, joke. We appreciate. I appreciate you so much.
27:39
Speaker 1: I can't even thank you enough for just being, you know,
27:42
Speaker 1: available to do this for me. It means a lot
27:45
Speaker 1: to the community. I know everybody's going to be super
27:47
Speaker 1: hype to see I know I have to be there.
27:49
Speaker 1: And congratulations, you're such a queen. I really hope you
27:52
Speaker 1: listened to that song. I did. I watched the video
27:55
Speaker 1: to the song you got Yourself. I'm proud of you too.
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Speaker 1: Good morning,