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The Little People: The High Strangeness ET Contact Story of Kelli Anderson · UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT

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  Speaker 1: Hello everyone. My name is Preston Dennett, and thank you
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  Speaker 1: for joining me for another episode of UFOs and the Paranormal.
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  Speaker 1: I have a very special episode for you today, which
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  Speaker 1: I call The Little People. The High Strangeness ET contact
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  Speaker 1: story of Kelly Anderson. That is a pseudonym. She did
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  Speaker 1: not want her real name used, but she did a
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  Speaker 1: write up for me of all of her amazing experiences.
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  Speaker 1: I also interviewed her first hand. And while her story
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  Speaker 1: is so amazing because it involves a very wide variety
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  Speaker 1: of not only ET events, but the paranormal, including but
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  Speaker 1: not limited to UFOs, missing time ets, ghosts, psychic events, precognition,
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  Speaker 1: a tree, spirit, owl stories orbs OBEs, an apparent miracle,
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  Speaker 1: and more so, really a series of really unusual events,
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  Speaker 1: some startling unique. I did write up her experience in
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  Speaker 1: my book Humanoids and High Strangeness. In that book, I
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  Speaker 1: really tried to embrace all the events that surround ET contact.
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  Speaker 1: ET contact usually comes along with a wide variety of
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  Speaker 1: paranormal events of all kinds, and that's certainly true with
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  Speaker 1: Kelly Anderson. Her story is particularly profound, super interesting, really
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  Speaker 1: unique in a lot of ways, and I think you'll
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  Speaker 1: find it really compelling and interesting, so let's just get started.
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  Speaker 1: She didn't want to admit it, but recent events had
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  Speaker 1: convinced Kelly that she was a complete freak. Was nineteen
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  Speaker 1: sixty eight. She was only eight years old, just starting out,
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  Speaker 1: but so many strange things were happening to her that
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  Speaker 1: had no rational explanation. She didn't know what else to think.
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  Speaker 1: At the time, she and her older sister, i'll call
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  Speaker 1: her Julie that is a pseudonym, who was one year older,
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  Speaker 1: had recently gotten their own rooms. Her father was a
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  Speaker 1: music teacher, and he had moved his music room into
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  Speaker 1: the garage so that the girls could each have their
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  Speaker 1: own space. At the time, they were living in a
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  Speaker 1: three bedroom house in Escondido, California. Now they weren't a
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  Speaker 1: religious family, but Kelly did have a friend who was,
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  Speaker 1: and Kelly began to develop an interest in the concept
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  Speaker 1: of God. So when her friend received a new Bible
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  Speaker 1: in Sunday school, Kelly asked her if she could have
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  Speaker 1: her old one, and her friend agreed, and, as Kelly says,
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  Speaker 1: I often read it by flashlight in bed at night.
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  Speaker 1: Jesus' words were all in red print, and I read
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  Speaker 1: and reread those red words with fascination, and after such
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  Speaker 1: a night of reading, something happened that, after decades of
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  Speaker 1: wondering about, I now believe shaped the rest of my life.
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  Speaker 1: It was late at night and Kelly was getting very sleepy,
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  Speaker 1: so she decided to stop reading and just go to sleep.
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  Speaker 1: As she says, I just snapped off the flashlight and
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  Speaker 1: was adjusting my eyes to the darkness when there came
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  Speaker 1: a sudden, low rumble and the sound of the glass
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  Speaker 1: at my window trembling. My immediate thought was that a
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  Speaker 1: burglar was trying to force the window open. I shut
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  Speaker 1: my eyes tight in fear, thinking that my survival depended
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  Speaker 1: on faking that I was asleep and knew nothing. My
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  Speaker 1: heart pounded with dread at the sound of heavy, slow
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  Speaker 1: footsteps coming to the side of my bed. I figured
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  Speaker 1: I was done for as the edge of my bed
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  Speaker 1: sagged with the heaviness of someone sitting beside me. Heart
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  Speaker 1: racing panic ensued as I clung to the idea that
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  Speaker 1: he might let me live if he thought I was asleep,
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  Speaker 1: so I kept my eyes glued shut. I knew that
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  Speaker 1: they were leaning down right next to my face. Then
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  Speaker 1: there was a clicking sound and light flooded through my
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  Speaker 1: closed eyelids, showing red. Now I knew he wasn't being
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  Speaker 1: sneaky and had no fear of me at all. The
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  Speaker 1: light seemed to peer through my closed eyes for an
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  Speaker 1: eternity as I struggled not to move and give myself away.
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  Speaker 1: So Kelly wanted to scrunch her eyes more tightly closed,
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  Speaker 1: but she was smart enough to know that such an
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  Speaker 1: action would look phony and was At this point she
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  Speaker 1: felt a terrible itch on her arm, but was even
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  Speaker 1: too afraid to scratch that lest her movement betray the
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  Speaker 1: fact that she was faking being asleep. Then, to her
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  Speaker 1: great relief, the pressure on the mattress disappeared. There was
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  Speaker 1: another loud clicking sound, and the eerie red light went out.
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  Speaker 1: She didn't hear any footsteps moving away, so she still
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  Speaker 1: feared that her mysterious intruder was lurking in the room
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  Speaker 1: and perhaps testing her, so she continued feigning sleep. She
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  Speaker 1: lay there in unmoving terror for most of the rest
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  Speaker 1: of the night, too afraid to open her eyes, and
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  Speaker 1: not until she sensed the morning light coming in through
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  Speaker 1: the windows heard the birds start to sing, did she
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  Speaker 1: take action. Not even daring to inspect her room. She
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  Speaker 1: sprung from her bed, ran for her life, and landed
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  Speaker 1: in a frenzied heap on her parents bed, waking them
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  Speaker 1: both up from a sound sleep and breathless, she ranted
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  Speaker 1: and raved about the intruder who had haunted her all
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  Speaker 1: night long. Now her mother listened with concern and then said,
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  Speaker 1: you are just dreaming. It was a nightmare. Kelly protested,
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  Speaker 1: she knew this wasn't a nightmare, she was awake, but
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  Speaker 1: her mother just shook her head unconvinced. As Kelly says,
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  Speaker 1: I knew it wasn't a dream, and if it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: a burglar, I decided it must have been some sort
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  Speaker 1: of monster. I've periodically thought of possibilities over the years
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  Speaker 1: and still have no definite conclusions. If only I had
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  Speaker 1: had the nerve to open my eyes, I think it
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  Speaker 1: would take me nearly forty more years of living and
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  Speaker 1: inexplicable experiences before I would begin to see a pattern
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  Speaker 1: in the strange events. How interesting is that, as we know,
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  Speaker 1: et contact usually does start at a very early age,
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  Speaker 1: and I suspense fact that this was ET contact. Certainly
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  Speaker 1: Kelly has considered it, but again, it's a little bit ambiguous,
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  Speaker 1: could have been a ghostly visitation, hard to say for sure,
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  Speaker 1: but certainly super interesting. And it was following this that
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  Speaker 1: her life really began to change. She blossomed into a
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  Speaker 1: whole series of psychic events that really changed the way
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  Speaker 1: she thought about the world. So yeah, the next chapter
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  Speaker 1: is all about psychic events. So it wasn't long after
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  Speaker 1: this strange childhood bedroom encounter that Kelly had a very
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  Speaker 1: odd dream, and at the time she didn't think there was
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  Speaker 1: much to it, and she says, one morning, I woke
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  Speaker 1: up with the image of my own hand on a
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  Speaker 1: piece of glass that was spidering out in cracked patterns
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  Speaker 1: beneath it. That was all just a snapshot image, but
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  Speaker 1: the dream had a certain nagging insistence about it that
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  Speaker 1: in time I would learn to recognize. Later that day,
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  Speaker 1: she and her family went to visit relatives in the
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  Speaker 1: town of Julian. Kelly and her cousins were playing around
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  Speaker 1: in their uncle's feed and supply star and while crawling
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  Speaker 1: among the bales of alfalfa and sacks of feed, Kelly
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  Speaker 1: heard and felt something cracked below her hand, and as
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  Speaker 1: she says, I looked down and saw the exact image
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  Speaker 1: of my dream. Upon waking that morning, the weirdness of
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  Speaker 1: it made me scream unintentionally, but it hadn't hurt. I'd
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  Speaker 1: just ruined our fun game and got us all in trouble.
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  Speaker 1: When I asked why I screamed, I just said I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. So after a few more incidents like this
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  Speaker 1: where Kelly had inexplicable foreknowledge of events, she began to
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  Speaker 1: question her sanity and wonder what the heck was going
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  Speaker 1: on with her. So Unable to understand, she went to
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  Speaker 1: her mother and told her what was happening. As Kelly says,
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  Speaker 1: my mother assured me that it was nothing to fear.
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  Speaker 1: She herself had occasional premonitions and unusual experiences, and her
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  Speaker 1: grandmother had claravoyant My great grandmother had even seen an
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  Speaker 1: angel once and reportedly had healing abilities. So I was
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  Speaker 1: somewhat relieved to discover I wasn't a complete freak. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: when Kelly's interests and focused in life began to shift
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  Speaker 1: more towards spirituality, she began to collect little Buddha statues
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  Speaker 1: and figurines of various deities. She pilfered candles from her
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  Speaker 1: grandmother's drawer and set up a secret little temple in
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  Speaker 1: her closet, and she says, I just sit in there
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  Speaker 1: and look at them and wonder about God. I called
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  Speaker 1: this sanctuary my Buddha hut. As you might imagine, experiencing
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  Speaker 1: all this paranormal precognition in psychic events changed the way
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  Speaker 1: she thought about life at a very young age made
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  Speaker 1: her a very deeply spiritual person. And events were still
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  Speaker 1: in progress because she was now about to experience something,
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  Speaker 1: a huge event that would change everything, change the course
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  Speaker 1: of her life, really affected her whole family as well.
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  Speaker 1: So from a very young age again, Kelly was deeply spiritual.
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  Speaker 1: She began to feel a very strong connection to nature,
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  Speaker 1: particularly to trees, and when her parents gave her a
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  Speaker 1: toy doctor's kit, she didn't use it on people, but
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  Speaker 1: instead he used it on trees. As she says, I
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  Speaker 1: made up poultices for injured trees on our property out
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  Speaker 1: of various leaves, herbs, and flower and lovingly applied it.
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  Speaker 1: Trees were not background objects to me, but more like
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  Speaker 1: close friends. I climbed up in them and sat for
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  Speaker 1: long periods of time, singing made up songs or just thinking.
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  Speaker 1: I drew pictures of trees and wrote poems about them.
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  Speaker 1: But my childhood would come to a screeching halt by
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  Speaker 1: the time I was eleven. So at this time, at
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  Speaker 1: age eleven, Kelly began to have this very weird, repetitive dream.
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  Speaker 1: It happened every night, and it was always the same,
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  Speaker 1: and in this dream, Kelly she found herself running for
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  Speaker 1: her life from a huge crowd of children chasing her
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  Speaker 1: across the field. Was a very vivid dream and different
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  Speaker 1: from most of her dreams, And after three nights of
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  Speaker 1: having this same dream over and over, Kelly woke up
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  Speaker 1: one school morning and told her mom about it, and
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  Speaker 1: her mom asked, of course, how are things going at school,
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  Speaker 1: handing Kelly the sack lunch she had prepared for her,
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  Speaker 1: and Kelly said, fine, same as it always is. She
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  Speaker 1: thought it was an odd question for her mom to ask,
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  Speaker 1: because she didn't think the dream had anything to do
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  Speaker 1: at school. In fact, Kelly's school life was very happy.
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  Speaker 1: She was popular enough, she had good friends, the school
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  Speaker 1: work was easy for her. She got very good grades.
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  Speaker 1: She was having a good time at school, and her
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  Speaker 1: mother said, well, then don't worry about it, so Kelly didn't.
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  Speaker 1: She dismissed the dream and walked off towards school. On
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  Speaker 1: the way there, she met up with one of her friends,
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  Speaker 1: and as they walked along the trail to going to school,
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  Speaker 1: they saw a group of other school girls heading in
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  Speaker 1: the same direction ahead of them. And this is when
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  Speaker 1: things became strange, because out of the blue, Kelly's friend,
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  Speaker 1: for some weird reason, randomly picked up a rock and
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  Speaker 1: tossed it ahead of her. Accidentally, to the horror of
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  Speaker 1: them both, the rock struck one of the girls ahead
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  Speaker 1: of them, right on the back. And of all people,
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  Speaker 1: the girl hit by this rock was the school bully,
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  Speaker 1: the meanest girl in the eighth grade. So Kelly's friend
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  Speaker 1: immediately hid behind her and pleaded, please, Kelly, don't tell
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  Speaker 1: her it was me. And, as Kelly says, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: have time to think because the bully and her minions
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  Speaker 1: were already upon us. She glared into my eyes with
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  Speaker 1: hatred and jabbed my chest with her finger as I
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  Speaker 1: stood my sorry ground and aimed for no expression. You're
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  Speaker 1: going to wish you were never born, the bully hissed,
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  Speaker 1: as her cohorts giggled nervously. The sound of the school
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  Speaker 1: bell could be heard just then, and thankfully the crowd
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  Speaker 1: broke for the grounds in a hurry, so Kelly thought
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  Speaker 1: to herself that was close. Her friend thanked her profusely,
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  Speaker 1: and they rushed to class. Now. Throughout the day, Kelly
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  Speaker 1: kept a careful lookout for the bully, but thankfully she
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  Speaker 1: did not run into her. And when the school day ended,
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  Speaker 1: Kelly decided that to be safe, just in case the
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  Speaker 1: bully was waiting for her, she would stay late at
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  Speaker 1: school and help the teacher. What she did putting away books,
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  Speaker 1: cleaning the blackboard, and doing other small jobs. And as
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  Speaker 1: Kelly says, as I later banged two erasers together outside
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  Speaker 1: the classroom door, I felt the sense of doom as
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  Speaker 1: I watched the white puffs of chalk fall heavy to
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  Speaker 1: the grass. A quick scan of the empty halls and
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  Speaker 1: grounds assured me that only my teacher and myself remained.
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  Speaker 1: At some point, the teacher said, my mother would probably
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  Speaker 1: be getting worried if I didn't get home soon. I'd
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  Speaker 1: bought quite a bit of time with all my cleaning,
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  Speaker 1: and I figured kid was going to hang around in
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  Speaker 1: an empty school any longer than they had to. The
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  Speaker 1: buses were long gone, the bike racks were empty, and
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  Speaker 1: the school was clearly deserted. So Kelly turned to the
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  Speaker 1: teacher and said, Okay, then I'll see you tomorrow. She
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  Speaker 1: glanced out the window to double check that the coast
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  Speaker 1: was clear, and it was, but it was not to be.
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  Speaker 1: Kelly would never see her teacher again. Only slightly concerned
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  Speaker 1: in seeing no sign of the bully, Kelly headed home now,
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  Speaker 1: she says, I gripped my books tightly as my brisk
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  Speaker 1: footsteps echoed down the empty halls and towards the gate.
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  Speaker 1: I'd soon be home, and tomorrow the incident would be,
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  Speaker 1: if not forgotten, at least diminished. Tomorrow I'd make a
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  Speaker 1: new plan. I made it past the bike rack and
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  Speaker 1: was coming to a stand of trees when, in a
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  Speaker 1: blurry rush of downing and adrenaline, I saw them rushing
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  Speaker 1: towards me. It was a whole pack of frenzied kids
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  Speaker 1: with thurmain dog, the school bully in the It was
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  Speaker 1: totally unexpected and bizarre. I reacted instinctively, and ess kept
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  Speaker 1: running towards home, looking back when I dared to see
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  Speaker 1: if I lost them. So she ran as fast as
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  Speaker 1: she could, but they kept running after her, and the
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  Speaker 1: next thing, she knows, she ran out of breath and
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  Speaker 1: looking up, saw that she was surrounded by a large
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  Speaker 1: circle of kids. Some of them were supposedly her friends,
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  Speaker 1: but not anymore, and the bully came in towards her
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  Speaker 1: like a prize fighter. She said, with a hateful look
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  Speaker 1: of glee spreading across her face, and said, you're done for.
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  Speaker 1: So Kelly tried to defend herself, but she was not
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  Speaker 1: able to. She felt time actually seeming to slow down
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  Speaker 1: as she got beat up by this school bully. The
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  Speaker 1: next thing she knew, she was lying on the ground
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  Speaker 1: and getting pounded by this school bully. She lost conscient biousness. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: when she woke up, she was on the couch in
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  Speaker 1: her friend's house, and later learned that her older sister
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  Speaker 1: had come running to investigate and rescued Kelly. So Kelly
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  Speaker 1: thanks her sister for basically saving her life. But this
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  Speaker 1: was exactly like the dream had predicted. Kelly was left
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  Speaker 1: deeply traumatized by this event. The kids that she thought
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  Speaker 1: were her friends had done nothing to stop the attack,
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  Speaker 1: and Kelly herself had done nothing to deserve it. She
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  Speaker 1: hadn't even thrown the rock that precipitated all of this.
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  Speaker 1: When Kelly shared that event with me. My heart went
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  Speaker 1: out to her. I mean, that must have been really
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  Speaker 1: hard for her. She said that it was very sad,
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  Speaker 1: very poignant, but it ended up having a really interesting
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  Speaker 1: silver lining. As many difficult events do, it can lead
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  Speaker 1: to a great awakening, and that's certainly what happened to her.
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  Speaker 1: And this next event that she describes is so interesting,
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  Speaker 1: so unique. I don't think I've ever heard anything quite
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  Speaker 1: like this. This is a level of contact that is
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  Speaker 1: really unusual and interesting and profound. So, as you might expect,
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  Speaker 1: this event affected her profoundly, not only her, her entire family.
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  Speaker 1: They ended up pulling Kelly out of school and her
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  Speaker 1: sister and shortly later moved to this beautiful little town
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  Speaker 1: called Julian, located in southern California. It's very rural, surrounded
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  Speaker 1: by trees and mountains. It's a beautiful area. But Kelly,
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  Speaker 1: as a result of this really traumatic experience, became quite isolated.
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  Speaker 1: She had no desire to make any new friends. But
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  Speaker 1: the good news was she loved this new town of Julian.
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  Speaker 1: It was surrounded by trees, and trees had always been
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  Speaker 1: her best friends anyway, And by luck, the school year
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  Speaker 1: was now over and she had all summer to enjoy
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  Speaker 1: the forest around her house, so once again she rejoiced
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  Speaker 1: among the trees. Nowhere else but in the forest had
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  Speaker 1: she found such peace. And our house was right in
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  Speaker 1: the middle of it. As Kelly says, our house was
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  Speaker 1: a gray wooden split level set on a sloping hill
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  Speaker 1: of clay. The pines and oak trees that surrounded the
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  Speaker 1: house on all sides were thick and towering, extending into
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  Speaker 1: the web of forests that covered the local hills. The
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  Speaker 1: scents and sounds of the trees were ever present, whether
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  Speaker 1: buckling with heavy drifts of snow or being worked by squirrels,
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  Speaker 1: woodpeckers and jays. At night, the wind whistled high over
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  Speaker 1: the rub and creak of limbs, and the house so
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  Speaker 1: closely meshed. So this was a welcome change from the
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  Speaker 1: trauma Kelly had left behind in Escondiel. And it was
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  Speaker 1: that summer that she had her first of a series
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  Speaker 1: of very lucid dreams about a mysterious entity she would
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  Speaker 1: later name Birch. These dreams were very vivid, very realistic,
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  Speaker 1: and they came nightly without fail were very comforting. As
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  Speaker 1: Kelly says, they always began and ended exactly the same way.
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  Speaker 1: I would be walking in the forest, admiring the trees,
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  Speaker 1: and everything would become extremely vivid. Colors and textures stood out,
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  Speaker 1: along with the natural sounds and smells of the forest.
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  Speaker 1: I could even feel the breeze on my skin. I
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  Speaker 1: would stop to gaze upon a particular tree, when suddenly
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  Speaker 1: a loud rustling of leaves would cause me to turn
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  Speaker 1: and look in the direction of the rising wind. As
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  Speaker 1: soon as I turned my head back around, a man
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  Speaker 1: appeared where only a tree had stood before. I say man,
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  Speaker 1: because I have no other way of explaining him. The
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  Speaker 1: truth is, I knew I loved him from the first,
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  Speaker 1: and felt as if I'd always known him, But after waking,
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  Speaker 1: I could never remember what he looked like. I dreamed
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  Speaker 1: of him every night for a year, and yet upon waking,
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  Speaker 1: his form had already vanished from my memory. So these
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  Speaker 1: sound very much like out of body experiences, but certainly
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  Speaker 1: very lucid dreams at the very least. And while the
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  Speaker 1: dreams began and ended the same way, there was always
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  Speaker 1: some variation in the middle of them. As Kelly says,
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  Speaker 1: we somehow traveled through the forest, having deep and inspiring
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  Speaker 1: conversations the overriding feelings I had were of love. Love
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  Speaker 1: is too small a word for what I felt. I
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  Speaker 1: would come to him with grievances about the world in general,
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  Speaker 1: in my little world in particular, and somehow he would
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  Speaker 1: bring me to a place of profound compassion towards it all.
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  Speaker 1: At the point of my understanding, I would hear or
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: feel the gust again and turn my head in that direction.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: When I looked back for him, he was gone, but
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: a tree was where he'd been. So one day Kelly
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: summoned the courage to actually ask his name. And this man,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: this spirit, replied Birch. This was odd, Kelly thought, because
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: the forest around them was mostly oak and pines. Birch
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: called the other trees quote his friends. Kelly fully understood
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: that because she felt the same way, and these strange
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: dreams or OBEs affected Kelly profoundly. They were so vivid,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: so beautiful, that upon awakening she felt as if she
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: had truly been out in the forest. And she always
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: woke with a deep sense of peace and happiness. And
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: it was strange because she had no other dreams. And
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: each night she would go to bed with incredible excitement,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: knowing that she'd get to meet Birch again, talk with him,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: and wander through the forest. She came to rely upon
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: him deeply for companionship, but at the same time it
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: was kind of frustrating because she could never remember what
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: he looked like, and the conversations she had with him,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: while long and varied, were always somewhat shrouded in forgetfulness,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: and upon awakening, they'd flee from her awareness like a
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: flock of scared birds. She even kept a pad of
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: paper and a pen next to her bed in the
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: hopes of capturing something anything, but alas, it never happened,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: so she still had no idea what he looked like,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: though in her heart she pictured him as a shining
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: and beautiful man. But it was okay because Kelly knew
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: that she would see him the next night and the
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: night after that. She had finally found a true friend,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: and she no longer felt the sadness and confusion and
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: trauma that had overwhelmed her following this terrible beating that
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: she had endured, and she found herself enjoying her sleep
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: life as much as her waking night. Then one night
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: she went to sleep, and as she knew he would
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Birch appeared in front of her, and as usual, they
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: ambled through the forest, talking of everything under the sun.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: After what seemed like hours, Birch turned to her and
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: said something that made her stomach drop. He said, we
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: will no longer be meeting like this. Kelly immediately woke up,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: the word still echoing in her mind. She thought to herself,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: which can't be true. Birch would never leave her, but
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: he did. Despite all her efforts and repeated entreaties for
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: him to come back, these dreams came to a sudden end.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: She longed terribly for him to return, but that was it.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Following this, her nights became ordinary again, and she never
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: saw him. It was a tragic loss. She felt a
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: hollow emptiness that his absence had left in her life.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: She missed him more than she could express. She hadn't
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: realized how much she had come to depend on his friendship.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: But as the days and weeks passed into months and years,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: she was able to look back on that special summer
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: with an incredible sense of gratitude and love. Her meetings
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: with Birch had left her forever changed, and although she
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: couldn't remember specifically, their long conversations. She knew that he
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: was the wisest, most loving creature that she would ever
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: have the grace or honor to know. She looked upon
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: him as some kind of tree spirit, one who had
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: come to her because she had a special relationship with
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: trees and worked hard to heal them, and when she
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: needed a healing Birch was there for her. She speculates
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: that he only left her because her healing was complete,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: but for years afterward and still she missed him. Oh
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: amazing is that? I mean? I think we've all heard
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: of things like nature spirits, but to have someone describe
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: an event so clearly in such depth, to have someone
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: experience something that changed her so profoundly, I mean, that's
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: just amazing. I've never heard anyone describe an event like
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: that before. I suspect other people have had these kinds
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: of experiences, but so so amazing, and again shows how
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: high strangeness paranormal events are often a part of the
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: whole contact tee experience, and his life moved along for Kelly,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: sure and more events occurred, including not only paranormal events,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: but apparent visitations by ET's or maybe ghosts. Again, there's
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: a little bit of ambiguity here. With the birch dreams over,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Kelly's attention was now drawn to the many weird events
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: occurring in their house. For example, there was this heavy
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: wood door at the bottom of the stairs that kept
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: opening by itself. Nobody ever actually saw it opening, but
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: they certainly remembered closing it, yet it would be opened
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: in the morning. Of course, that wasn't all. Shortly after
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: moving into this house, they found this deep red stain
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: on the concrete floor of their room, and they could
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: not get rid of it, so they just ended up
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: painting the floor red and basically getting curtains and other
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: furniture to match. But not long after moving in, Kelly
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: started to see something she couldn't understand, visitations of some
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: kind of weird figures. As she says, many a late
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: moonlit night, I awoke to the surreal vision of several tall, thin,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: nearly human looking figures moving back and forth in front
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: of the windows. Their shapes were easily discernible through the
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: sheer curtains, but I was always too afraid to get
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: up and pull the curtains back. They were too tall
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: and thin to be quite human, and besides, the windows
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: were several feet off the ground, so I knew they
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: had to be floating instead of walking. So although they
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: didn't seem to be human, the idea of extraterrestrials had
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: not entered Kelly's mind at this point, and she wondered
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: if they might be ghosts. In fact, her curiosity was
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: even more sparked when she found what looked like child's
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: carvings of ghostlike figures similar looking figures etched into a
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: wooden plank above the closet door. Then one night, she
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: had a very close encounter with whoever these people were.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: As Kelly says, my sister was away and I was
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: alone in our room reading the f store's door was closed,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: and my parents were in the living room watching television.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: I just turned out the light and lay face down
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: with one leg dangling from under the covers off the
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: edge of the mattress. As soon as I closed my eyes,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I felt someone push my leg back on to the
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: top of the bed before arranging the blanket over my legs.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: It took a few moments from my brain to catch
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: up to the fact that I was alone in my room.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: I shot off the bed and took the stairs by
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: twos racing up to the top like a maniac. I
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: shoved the door open with a rude jolt and stared
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: at my parents, who were sitting on the couch laughing
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: at their favorite sitcom, The Honeymooners. So she asked them,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: was someone just downstairs? And of course no, there wasn't,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: So that was very strange. It quite frightened her, even
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: though ultimately it was a very benevolent event, and soon
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: more events would occur that convinced everyone in the house
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: that there was something there. They would experience unexplained cold
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: drafts of air. On occasion, an object would slide across
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: the table, fly across the room, fall off a shelf.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Was startling, of course, but somehow not scary, and it
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: came to convince Kelly that there were such things as spirits,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: so she came to look upon them as unseen friends.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: And another strange thing were owls. They would appear all
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: the time around the house, more than you would think now.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: It was once, as Kelly's mother sat in her art room,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: an owl would come sit at the window and stare
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: at her, even during the day, and Kelly's mother admitted
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: that they gave her an uneasy feeling. So this became
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: another weird thing that was going on in Kelly's life.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: So interesting, in my personal opinion, because Kelly's describing these silhouettes,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: these figures she saw as being somewhat not human looking,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: very very slender. I suspect they were ET's, but she
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: leaves the interpretation open because until you're sure, you don't know.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: But so interesting. Also interesting is how owls started to
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: become a part of all of this, which certainly, as
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: you may know, does seem to be a part of
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: the ET experience. Owls come up again and again, and
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: they would come up in the future in a really
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: dramatic way. But now events took a turn where it
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: became pretty clear to Kelly that she was in fact
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: a contactee because UFOs showed up big time. So Kelly
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: was twelve years old when the day came that she
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: saw a UFO. She and her sister had landed their
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: first babysitting job. You were caring for two toddlers and
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: a baby. It was a long, hectic day. Neither of
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: them had realized how difficult it was to care for children.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: But finally they had the children fed and put to
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: bed and Kelly's sister went into the kitchen and came
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: out with a can of beer. Kelly was a little
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: bit alarmed, but her sister said, it's just one can.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: They'll never know. So, as Kelly says, she drank half
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: of the beer and she gave me the other half.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: I snuck out into the back lot and I was
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: going to sit there and drink my beer under this tree.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: I sat down and leaned against this tree, and for
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: some reason, maybe it was because I was tipping the beer,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: something made me look up and right above the tree
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: was this weird thing. I remember it looking like a long,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: gray blimp type thing, but it was so close to
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: the top of the tree that it just freaked me out.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: It was all guilty because I was sitting there drinking beer.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I've been busted. And
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: that's the end of the memory. I don't remember running
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: and screaming. I just remember being really, really paranoid. That's
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: the end of the whole thing. I cannot remember. Years later,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: when Kelly asked her sister about it, her sister had
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: no memory of this whatsoever. Didn't remember remember the babysitting job,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: didn't remember the UFO was so strange because Kelly didn't
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: remember telling anyone either, and in fact, for years the
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: whole experience seemed to slip from her mind, and one
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: day she just spontaneously remembered it. Very amazing. When someone
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: sees a UFO that close up almost always denotes deeper
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: levels of contact. I think that's absolutely true in Kelly's case,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: especially given the fact that there was apparently some amnesia
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: surrounding this event. Near there of them fully remembering what
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: happened until years later, it's a huge red flag. UFO
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: researchers are certainly aware of this. This often does mean
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: that there might have been missing time and perhaps an
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: on board experience. Kelly doesn't remember anything like that, She
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: didn't have any dreams of being on board or anything
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: like that, but she certainly wonders about it. Man, so
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: do I. Now? Moving along, next event she described is stupendous,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: really unique and unusual. Never heard anything quite like it,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: and Kelly is absolutely sure that this was what we
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: would call a miracle. So time marched on, and then
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: one day, after receiving a blank diary as a gift,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Kelly found she had a real talent for writing. She
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: began to compose poems and songs, which her sister put
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: to music, actually formed a band and got gigs at
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: school and local banquets and dance halls. Kelly also developed
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: an interest in horseback riding. One of their neighbors had horses,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: and both Kelly and her sister began to take turns
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: riding this horse, and they both enjoyed it so much
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: that their father finally bought an old horse named Joker,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: so they could ride whenever they wanted. But of course
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: this brought new challenges was living up in the mountains.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: The winters were pretty cold and snowy, and with her
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: mother working as an artist and her father as a musician,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: there wasn't a whole lot of money for new warm clothes. Now,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Kelly's friends also rode horses, but they all had nice
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: white long underwear beneath their outer clothes to keep them warm,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: and Kelly became increasingly envious about this, and as Christmas approached,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: she repeatedly begged her mother for a new pair of
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: long underwear, but despite several requests, when Christmas morning arrived,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: there was no long underwear. Kelly did get a book
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: about horses and other small gifts, which she loved, but
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: disappointment flooded her. The book was nice, but she really
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: wanted this pair of long underwear. So very sad and
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: upset and disappointed about this, she decided to take her horse, Joker,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: for a ride, and, as Kelly later wrote in her journal,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: I went out and slid across the mud and patches
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: of dirty ice and pushed the bit into Joker's mouth.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: I threw the reins over his shoulders and stood on
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: a log and leaped onto his back. The air was
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: crisp and piny, the saturated hills of melting snow. I
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: ran Joker into a gallop until my body became one
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: with his rhythmic motions. No matter how fast he ran,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: I knew I wouldn't slide off his back. The light
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: glistened off the trees in the morning light, as his
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: chipped hoofs clamped across the rock and frozen clay. We
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: ran up a nearby hill for no particular reason, And
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: as I rounded a turn through some trees, I leaned
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: down nearer to Joker's neck for better balance on his
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: wet and bony back. And when I sat up straight
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: and lifted my eyes I saw a miracle shimmering before us.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: I referred to this as the long underwear miracle. There
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: it was, hovering like an angelic vision before me. A white,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: long sleeved long underwear shirt dangling from an oak branch
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: was just high enough that I could only reach it
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: from Joker's back. With trembling hands, I plucked the snow soaked,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: bark flecked shirt from the tree. I squeezed the water
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: from it and examined it for tears or holes. It
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: was perfect, not worn out looking, but neither with that
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: embarrassingly new look either. I quickly looked around, but there
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: were no signs of people in this area and no tracks.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Held it close to my body and whispered thank you.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: I didn't know who I was thinking, but I felt
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: sure it was somehow intended for me. My mother was
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: genuinely shocked by my discovery, and for years after we
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: would joke about some hapless hiker who had lost his
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: shirt in the woods in a storm. If this was
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: some clever ploy of a sympathetic, unknown person. It was
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: brilliant who knew of my long underwear longing, Besides my mother,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: who hadn't really understood its depth. To this day, the
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: whole event remains mysterious. At the time, others saw it
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: as a coincidental and insignificant occurrence, like so many odd
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: events that make up our lives. By the time I
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: was fourteen, though, I already knew that my life, with
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: all its strangeness and briin alliance, was more than that.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: So Kelly never did learn where the long underwear came from,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: but deep in her heart she believes it may have
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: been a gift from Birch. But how he did it,
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: she has no idea. Meanwhile, Kelly's psychic awareness grew by
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: leaps and bounds. Daily she would predict who would be
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: on the phone, what song would come next on the radio,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: what someone near her was going to say. These usually
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: involved trivial events, but it happened so often that Kelly's
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: mother took notice and actually began to strengthen Kelly's abilities
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: by testing her with esp cards. And this was a
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: lot of fun for Kelly, So she started testing herself
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: by predicting various events, and she quickly learned to take
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: her hunches seriously, especially after one particularly poignant example. So
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: there you go, the underwear miracle. Very unusual, really quite
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: poignant and so interesting, and she wondered to this day,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: as does her family. You know who was responsible for
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: gifting her that pair of underwear hanging there on a
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: tree in the middle of the forest. I mean, it's
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: just beyond bizarre, but it certainly fits in with all
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: these weird experiences that Kelly was having. It's certainly interesting,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: to say the least. And Kelly's strange events continued. She
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: was again always having experiences with ghosts and precognition and
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: all kinds of psychic events, But now she was about
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: to have a spirit visitation that left no doubt in
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: her mind that there was life after death. One morning,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: after getting out of bed, I noticed how absolutely still
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: the house felt. I knew before opening my eyes that
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: it meant a deep snow had fallen the night before. Suddenly,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: an image of my great grandfather, who was alive and well,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: came to me. I felt a sharp, painful feeling of
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: loss for no apparent reason, as then rang, which it
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: always did if the snow is deep. I already knew
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: it wasn't about there being no school that day. I
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: knew at the sound of the ringing it would be
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: about my mother's grandfather. After a few moments, my mother
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: came downstairs and told us grandfather had just died of
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: a sudden heart attack while going to the kitchen for
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: a glass of water. This was my first of many
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: bouts of sensing before I had been told that someone
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: close to me had passed on. The fact that my
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: great grandfather had died was upsetting because it was my
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: first experience of death. But I also had to wonder
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: what it meant to know this beforehand. It nudged me
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: deeper into the mysteries of the underworld. At age fourteen,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Kelly met a boy I'll call him Jay. That's a pseudonym.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: He was a Native American boy who lived nearby at
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: the Santa Isabel Indian Reservation with his family, and Kelly
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: and Jay soon fell deeply in love, and Kelly began
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: to spend a lot of time on the reservation with
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Jay and his family, and this changed many things for
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: her life. What a gift that is to be able
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: to be visited by a deceased loved one who lets
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: you know that there is life after death. It's very special,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: very poignant, very profound. She's very blessed to have had
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: that experience, but now falling in love at a very
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: young age with a Native American boy, her life was
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: now about to take another major turn. In fact, as
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: she spent more and more time on the reservation, she
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: started to realize that the people that she was living
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: with viewed the life in the universe in a very
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: different way. And this really altered her thinking to some extent,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: and I think her experiences as well. Lilly soon learned
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: that Jay's family and the people around him acknowledged paranormal events.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Is absolutely true. They were something accepted as a part
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: of life. People would report strange entities that would come
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: into the room, causing temporary paralysis. There was all kinds
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: of strange Poultergeist like activity, knockings on windows and doors,
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: objects being tossed around. On one occasion, Kelly and her
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: friend had just riven to the reservation and parked when
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: something struck the car with such force the vehicle actually
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: lifted up on two wheels and then slammed back down.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: After recovering, the two of them exited the vehicle and
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: searched the area. There was no sign of anyone, no tracks.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Kelly wondered what could be so strong as to lift
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: the car like that. It was. Around this time, Kelly
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: had a very powerful out of body experience. She had
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: taken a long hike, went into the house to take
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: a nap. All of a sudden, her body became enveloved
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: by a powerful electric vibration feeling. She heard loud crackling sounds,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: and Kelly suddenly found herself soaring through the sky. She
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: realized she was astral projecting and pretty soon got pulled
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: back into her body. Another thing Kelly quickly learned about
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: the reservation is that owls were seen as messengers from
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: the other world and often harbringers of misfortune. None of
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: the people on the reservation liked seeing them near their
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: homes or even hearing them, and if any owl lingered
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: for too long, people would throw rocks at them. At
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: the time, Kelly kind of viewed it as a quaint superstition,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: even though she and her family were having similar experiences
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: strange experiences with owls, and later Kelly would have reason
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: to reevaluate her outlook on all of this. Kelly's boyfriend, Jay,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: did have an elderly uncle who she adored, and he
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: would often regale her with fantastic tales of the supernatural,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: such as about a man named Toquish went dancing and
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: then turned into an eagle. There were all kinds of
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: stories he had and would share them, and Kelly found
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: them absolutely fascinating. But once he did something that really
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: left her wondering. One evening, the family was sitting in
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: front of the fireplace, enjoying the heat of the flames,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: when the sound of an owl brought dead silence among them,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: and at this point Uncle jumped up and, walking like
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: a bird, he approached the fireplace and grabbed a large,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: red hot coal and placed it on the palm of
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: his hand. As Kelly says, he began singing an Indian
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: song and paused only to blow on the coal, which
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: then fired up even brighter. The coal was at least
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: the size of a golf ball, and it was plain
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: to see it was glowing all the way through. Uncle
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: then popped the coal into his mouth and somehow continued
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: singing like that for several minutes. Horrified, I quickly glanced
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: over at Jay's father, who made a face that told
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: me not to do anything. At the end of what
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: seemed an excruciatingly long song, Uncle nonchalantly bit the coal
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: into his hand and blew on it again. We could
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: see it was still red hot. With no more concern
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: than someone holding a rock, he slowly took it back
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: to the fire and replaced it under the log. He
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: wasn't harmed in the slightest way. So that that's truly
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: amazing and really made Kelly realize how extraordinary these people
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: were that she was living with. How amazing is that
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: It's clear that Uncle has a very advanced understanding of
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: some things, being able to handle a hot coal like that,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: all his amazing stories. Some really interesting events occurred during
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: her time on the reservation, but now, as often happens
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: with people who are contactees, events were to escalate, and
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Kelly soon had an experience that made her realize in
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: unequivocal terms that she was in fact a contactee because
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: she was visited directly by extraterrestrics. Shortly after Kelly turned
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: sixteen years old, her boyfriend Jay joined the army, and
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: to avoid being separated, the two of them decided to
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: get married. Before they left, Uncle approached Kelly and told
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: her that by the time she returned, he would be gone.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: This was a chilling prophecy that turned out to be true,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: so Kelly followed Jay to Germany, where he was transferred,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: and they stayed in a small apartment in the city
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: of ober Weisenborn. Very quickly, Kelly became pregnant, and while
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: she was pregnant, while she was staying there in Germany,
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: she had an encounter with a truly strange humanoid. As
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Kelly says in her own words, I awoke one night
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: in terror. There was a short little man, not more
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: than three feet tall, standing close to my face. I
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: cannot recall his features, except that he seemed to be
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: leering as he reached out towards my pregnant belly. It
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: looked like a troll. I could tell it wasn't young.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: It had an old feet feeling to it was leaning
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: towards me. It seemed to have some kind of a hat.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: There was something unusual about his hands or his fingers.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: I jerked away from the side of the bed as
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: he leaned in, and then noticed a long line of
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: similar creatures standing all the way from this one to
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: the door. There would have been fifteen of them or more.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: I was scared out of my mind. I got up
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: on my knees and started pounding on Jay to wake up.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: By the time he opened his eyes and was listening
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: to my crazy ranting, they had already vanished. To make
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: matters worse, Jay didn't try to reassure me in any
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: way or explain that I'd been dreaming, and instead he
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: jumped out of bed, grabbed his medicine bags off the wall,
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: and I remained there in the center of the big bed,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: cowering in fear as he went into the other room.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: I supposed to perform some ritual, so strangely, Kelly and
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Jay never discussed this. She did mention it to a
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: few friends, but they awkwardly offered their explanation that she
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: must have had a nightmare what she knew wasn't true.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: Whatever this was that came to her room, she feels
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: it was very interested in the fact that she was pregnant,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: interested in her baby. She doesn't understand it, though, because
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: it didn't touch her at all. It was just standing there,
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: And when she told Jay about the beating beings, he
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: didn't seem at all surprised. In fact, he acted like
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: he already knew what they were. And only after returning
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: to the US and telling Jay's family about it, did
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: she learn that they had their own theories about what
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: these beings were. As Kelly says, Jay's family explained that
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: these guys had been around forever, terrorizing women who are
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: pregnant with Indian children. Uncles certainly knew about them, and
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: Jay's father told me his brother had been harassed by
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: them when they were children. Over the years, I've heard
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: numerous accounts from many people about these little people, which
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: they called wapoos. So Kelly's pregnancy went well. She gave
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: birth to a healthy baby boy, and the little people
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: did not reappear, at least not for a long time,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: and she assumed that her experiences with them were over.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: She did have precognitive dreams while she was in Germany.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: She woke to see her grandmother standing at the foot
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: of the bed, radiant and happy, and she said, I'm
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: going to be with Dad. So she knew that her
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: grandmother had passed away, which of course turned out to
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: be true, and it really helped her grieving process. And
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: then she had another dream where she saw uncle Jay's uncle.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: He looked very concerned in distress, and the next day
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: she found out that her uncle had in fact been murdered.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: So Kelly and Jay moved back to southern California, grew
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: their little family had a new daughter. Years later, when
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: her eldest son was eleven years old, these little people
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: that she had seen returned. Kelly says one early morning,
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: he came into my room, scared to death by what
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: he'd seen. As he related the story, the hairs on
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: the back of my neck rose with comprehension. He said
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: he woke up because our cat, who was sleeping with him,
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: was freaking out, and when he opened his eyes, he
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: saw a crowd of little men standing around him, making
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: strange hand movements over his stomach. He said, I remember
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: floating down the hallway. I tried to act like it
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: wasn't anything to worry about and probably a dream, so
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't scare him. Then I said he should try
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: drawing a picture of them to take away the fear.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: And when he showed me the picture, I was overcome
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: with disbelief and confusion. They looked just like the little
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: man with pointed hats. How on earth could this be
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: a coincidence. I never told him of my previous experience
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: until he was grown up. He doesn't like it when
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: I talk about it even now. So many times Kelly
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: did ask her son for more details, he always refused.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: He says, they're aliens and it's a subject he does
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: not want to discuss. As Kelly says, he has always
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: been really, really against anything that has to do with
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: anything that implies UFOs or aliens. If anybody even talks
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: about anything or he sees a book, he just immediately
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: changes the subject. I have a couple of times just
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: said what do you think and he says, you know what,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: I just don't want to talk about that. It just
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: gives me the creeps and I don't want to So
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: I haven't been able to get him to talk about
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: these things because he's just horrified of the idea. Oh
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: interesting is that? I mean the way the Native Americans
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: viewed her experiences are a little bit different perhaps than
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: the way the average Western person does, but certainly fascinating
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: also because Kelly's son started having experiences that were pretty
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: much identical to her. This is the pattern we see
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: with so many people. Contact is generally speaking, generational. It
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: certainly does seem to be true in Kelly's case, and
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: her experiences continued because she went through a very difficult
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: period in her life and this is when she had
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: an experience that she's really not sure how to interpret.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Was it angelic, was it spiritual? Was this a spirit guide?
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: She's really not sure, but it involved this really intensely
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: amazing experience with orbs. Was not long after this that
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: Kelly's life started to become a little bit of a struggle.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: Her marriage with Jay didn't work out, and she got
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: a divorce and had to raise the kids on her own,
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: and she was just having a hard time working and
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: going to school. She tried to ease her stress by
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: gathering herbs and doing healing things, but life was very
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: difficult and she just wasn't happy. And one evening she
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: laid down on the floor and closed her eyes, and
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: as if a switch had been flipped, an overwhelming surge
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: of joy swept over her, and laughter began to bubble
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: out of her. Was so unexpected, then, out of the blue.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: Given how depressed she was, it made zero sense, and
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: as Kelly says, there was no excuse for me to
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: be all of the sudden joyous. So I thought, my god,
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: I must be losing it. I opened my eyes and
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: I saw what looked like a bubble, a round ball
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: of light, but about the size of if you blew
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: a bubble. It came in through the wall and started
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: floating through the room. I just lay there and this
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: emotion continued, where I felt these waves of intense joy.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know why. I sat there and watched it,
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: and pretty soon it started making all these strange movements.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: The feeling I had was that it was like dancing,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: was moving around, like it was aware that I was aware,
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: like we were almost interacting in some strange way. As
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: I continued to watch it, and the emotion was getting stronger,
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: was so strong that it was almost devastating. It was
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: like being in love, only a zillion times, just overwhelming emotion.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: I just lay there looking at this light and having
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: these feelings, and then pretty soon more of them came
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: into the room and they started doing these almost like
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: a choreographer designed to dance, and went on for a
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: long time. The feeling that I couldn't stand it anymore
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: was just too intense, and I closed my eyes and
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: when I opened them, I saw them just going out
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: through the wall and just disappearing and going away. So
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: this left Kelly quite confused. What were these angels spirits UFOs?
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: She really had no idea, but whatever they were, the
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: whole experience was very healing and her depression completely lifted.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: As she says, I can't say what that was, but
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: the emotion was just something else. I've never felt or
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: seen anything like that before, and I hope someday I
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: do again. How amazing and profound is that It's an
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: experience that Kelly looks back on with extreme fondness, And
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: I don't blame her truly amazing angels spirits, I don't no,
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: but certainly a very very positive experience. But as happens
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: with contact ees, the experiences are pretty much unending. The
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: paranormal becomes normal when someone is a contact EEE and
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: with Kelly Anderson, I mean, her experiences are off the
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: charts by strangeness. Owls are known to be a part
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: of the et contact experience. She's dealt with them throughout
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: her life again with a big part of the whole
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: paranormal with her life on the reservation, But now she
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: was about to have an OWL experience of such high
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: strangeness that it is mind boggling, And I'm glad she
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: wasn't the only witness, or I don't think people would
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: believe her. I mean, this one is just so weird.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: So time moved on, and one day Kelly wrote an
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: article about hers and her other people's experience with what
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: they call the wiapoos, and to her amazement, people responded
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: to her article implying that these little men were actually extraterrestrials.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: She hadn't really considered this idea, not seriously, so she
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: began to research the subject and was amazed to hear
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: how closely her experiences and others matched with what people
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: called ets. She also learned that many people reported seeing
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: owls in connection with ets, and she became even more
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: astonished because she and her family had just had this
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: really crazy sighting with an owl, many of them actually,
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: but one was just off the charts weird. As Kelly says,
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: I really got spooked because when my son had his experience,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: we were constantly having unusual owl sightings. Besides seeing them
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: in the driveway and on fence posts in great numbers
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: by daylight. We had a highly unusual incident while driving
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: home one night. We were coming back from a birthday
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: party and my aunt and uncle's house us The back
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: road was very dark and no other cars were around
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: Suddenly I came around to turn and had to stop
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: abruptly because a gigantic owl the size of a small
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: person was standing in the middle of the road. It
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: was just an impossibly, ridiculously large owl. We sat there
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: for a long time. The kids leaned up over the
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: back seat in amazement and were like, oh my god, Mom, Mom,
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: And we just stared at it, and it stared right
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: back straight at us. Was tripping me out because it
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: was staring into my eyes. The kids were excited and
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: scared at the same time, and my son said we
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: needed to go see his grandpa. His grandfather, being of
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: the owl clan, would surely know what it meant. I
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: didn't take my eyes off the owl, but after a
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: while it became so uncomfortable about its refusal to move
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: that I let my truck roll closer to it, hoping
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: to scare it off the road. It didn't budge, but
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: just continued to stare seemingly into my eyes. After what
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: felt like a very long amount of time, the owl
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: slowly turned and flew off. When I later told the
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: kid's grandfather about it, he didn't know what to say,
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: but it clearly disturbed him very hard to say, what's
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: going on there? I mean, you have a four or
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: five foot tall owl, probably not an owl in fact,
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: I mean it was not only look looked strange, but
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: there it was, standing in the middle of the road,
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: blocking the way, staring right at them. This could very
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: well have been a screen memory. Hard to say for sure,
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: but definitely unusual. And now Helly was going to get
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: some answers about these strange visitations she had with these
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: little people, because she finally decided to bring it up
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: to the folks on the reservation, and she got a
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: really interesting response about how they viewed these visitations that
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: she was having. So some years later, Kelly was driving
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: home with Jay and his friends and she decided to
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: bring up the subject of the weapoos and again shared
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: her own encounter with them and asked them, so, are
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: they real or what? And Jay said, they're real if
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: you noticed them, and his friend nodded in agreement, and
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: Kelly shook her head and said, what kind of answer
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: is that. Jay replied, they are there, but not everyone
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: sees them. They like to pray on little kids and
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: people who don't have a strong identity, and Jay's friend
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: nodded and said, yeah, yeah. So Kelly turned to Jay's
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: friend and said, have you seen them? And he said, yes,
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: I've seen the little bastards, but I chased them away.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: You can't be afraid of them, or they will never
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: leave you alone. And she said, for some reason, I
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: can't remember what they looked like. And this is when
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: both Jay and his friend explained that these weapoos, these
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: little people were nearly flets. These guys made it clear
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: that they didn't want to talk about it anymore, but
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: Kelly dropped the subject. But she couldn't help but speculate
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: about these little people. What were they, you know, beings
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: from another dimension ets? Or were they like fairies or
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: el's of the so called mythical people that seem to
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: be present in various cultures throughout the world. She didn't know,
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: But having experienced them herself and heard about other people's encounters,
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: she knows only one thing that they are real. And
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: now she says, I feel more certain every day that
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: something real is happening to us that defies ordinary explanations.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: If and how the psychond experiences are connected, I do
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: not presently understand. She did take the step to ask
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: her mother about UFOs and to her shock, her mother
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: revealed that she once did experience a missing time incident,
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: but she didn't want to talk about it, so she
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: asked her dad and he also admitted that he had
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: once seen a UFO. And, as Kelly says, my dad
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: totally doesn't believe in anything. He's one of these total
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: imperial realists. He has even told me that when he
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: was a teenager he saw something that he could never explain.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: He said it was a round, glowing object that seemed
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: like it was under intelligent control that was in the distance.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: It sounded like a UFO to me, but he wouldn't
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: use those words. He just shook his head and said,
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: that was the darnedest thing. I don't know what it was.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: But other weird memories that were possibly UFO related began
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: to surface, because twice, several years apart, Kelly woke up
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: at around four a m. To a very unusual sight.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: As she says, both times, I woke up in the
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: middle of the night and the entire house was lit
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: in a red light inside, evenly through the house, not
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: like coming through a window or anything. Red light on
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: everything everywhere. And both times that had happened, they were
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: within a couple of years apart, so I wasn't expecting
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: it to happen again, but it was so similar that
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: I immediately thought there was a fire, it was that bright.
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  Speaker 1: When I started walking around the house, I realized it
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  Speaker 1: was not coming from anywhere. So my next thought was
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  Speaker 1: I must be getting some kind of horrid eye disease
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  Speaker 1: and going blind. And of course that didn't happen, and
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  Speaker 1: I just sort of filed it away. Oh interesting is that?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, with so many Native American cultures seeing all
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  Speaker 1: different kinds of little people, we might have to keep
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  Speaker 1: our minds open to how we interpret these events because
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: there still are all kinds of questions surrounding contact. I
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  Speaker 1: suspect there's a lot of stuff going on here. It's
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  Speaker 1: not just ET's but all different kinds of things. I
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  Speaker 1: do think Kelly is having contact with extra trestrials in
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  Speaker 1: the classic sense, given that she did seeufos, did have
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  Speaker 1: missing time, she was pregnant the time of her encounter.
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  Speaker 1: I find that interesting because that is a pattern I've
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  Speaker 1: seen with many other people. But you can make up
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  Speaker 1: your own minds about it. And now we move to
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  Speaker 1: another really amazing experience in which Kelly got some answers
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  Speaker 1: about a very mysterious event in her childhood involving this
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  Speaker 1: tree spirit by the name of Birch. With around two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and five, Kelly went to bed one evening, and
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  Speaker 1: as she sometimes did, she began to reminisce about her
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  Speaker 1: childhood experiences with this tree spirit, called Birch, a mysterious
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  Speaker 1: dream friend who had had such a huge and lasting
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  Speaker 1: impact on her life. She constantly wondered who was he,
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  Speaker 1: where had he come from, why had he left? So?
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  Speaker 1: Pondering these questions on impulse, she reached out to him
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  Speaker 1: telepathically mentally, as she had often done before, but this
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  Speaker 1: time she asked outloud, who are you Birch? Really? The
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  Speaker 1: last thing she expected was what happened next. She heard
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  Speaker 1: a telepathic voice in her mind and it was Birch,
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  Speaker 1: and he said, I am here. She asked, are you
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  Speaker 1: a tree and he said, I was able to share
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  Speaker 1: the energy of the trees to meet you. She asked,
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  Speaker 1: are you an angel or what? He replied, you may
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  Speaker 1: call me a messenger. What's the message? She asked, love?
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  Speaker 1: Birch replied, what about it? Burch said, you can have it,
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  Speaker 1: you can give it. She asked, is it your mission
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  Speaker 1: to tell people this? Birch said yes, and she asked,
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  Speaker 1: like you did with me, and Birch replied always different.
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  Speaker 1: So she asked him how do you decide what to
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  Speaker 1: look like? And Birch replied, like what you already love.
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  Speaker 1: So she asked him why did you come to me?
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  Speaker 1: And he said you were searching for a message, so
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  Speaker 1: I brought it. And then she asked him what is
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  Speaker 1: your message for me now? And he said heal. That's
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  Speaker 1: why my name to you is Birch. And she asked
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  Speaker 1: have you been with me since? And she's thinking since
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  Speaker 1: these dreams stopped, she had not sensed his presence and
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  Speaker 1: he said yes, and she said how He replied music
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  Speaker 1: and poetry. This point, Kelly asked, am I supposed to
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  Speaker 1: heal others? Birch replied yes. How she asked and he
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  Speaker 1: replied by going up. Kelly wasn't quite sure what that
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  Speaker 1: meant and asked him, you mean leaving my body and
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  Speaker 1: he said yes. So she asked how and he said
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  Speaker 1: the answers are there. So she asked him were you
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  Speaker 1: the voice because she once recalled hearing a voice while
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  Speaker 1: she was out of body, and he said yes, without form,
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  Speaker 1: and she asked, did I want here to be born
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  Speaker 1: on earth? He said yes, and she asked did I
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  Speaker 1: have a plan, and he said yes, I am your reminder,
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  Speaker 1: and with that he was gone, never to return again again.
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  Speaker 1: This entire conversation was telepathic and it transpired very quickly,
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  Speaker 1: and immediately afterwards, Kelly did her best to write it
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  Speaker 1: all down as accurately as possible. But this conversation answered
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: many of the questions she had about this strange and
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  Speaker 1: mysterious entity from her childhood, and she became really interested
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  Speaker 1: in the fact that his name was birch because she
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  Speaker 1: learned that the birch tree had numerous medicinal healing properties.
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  Speaker 1: It's a powerful anti inflammatory to treat such conditions as arthritis, rheumatism,
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  Speaker 1: digestive troubles, urinary tract infections, insomnia, detoxifying and more. And
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  Speaker 1: in fact, indigenous cultures have used birch for many purposes
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  Speaker 1: for centuries of very strong mythology in many cultures about
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: the tree, so she realized that that name was very significant.
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  Speaker 1: How amazing is that Kelly looks upon that particular experience
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  Speaker 1: as a highlight in her life because it provided some
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  Speaker 1: answers as to what was going on during her childhood
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  Speaker 1: experiences with this apparent tree spirit so interesting and really unique,
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  Speaker 1: just amazing, And as Kelly's life continued, as was true
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  Speaker 1: with pretty much all contactees, the high strangeness continued through
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  Speaker 1: this day. Kelly continues to have many unexplained and very
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: deeply spiritual experiences and UFO experiences. For example, in two
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: thousand and eight, she invited a friend over to spend
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: the night and in the morning, her friend said, Wow,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: something really weird happened last night, and Kelly said, like what,
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  Speaker 1: And her friend said that she woke up to find
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: the interior of the house and entirely illuminated by an
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: eerie green light. She actually got out of bed and
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: wandered through the house looking for the source, but the
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: light was everywhere. She couldn't pinpoint where it was coming from,
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  Speaker 1: and after about ten minutes she gave up looking for
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  Speaker 1: it and climbed back into bed. Our friend thought it
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: might have been a spiritual experience. Kelly didn't offer any
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  Speaker 1: explanation because she didn't really have one, so they just
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: kind of sat there, stared at each other and finally said, whatever,
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  Speaker 1: So that sounds like another UFO visitation to me. Hard
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  Speaker 1: to say for sure, but certainly looks like it. There's
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: been quite a few of them. I suspect that Kelly
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  Speaker 1: has been onboard craft. It's unfortunately she has no memory
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  Speaker 1: of this, but that is not that unusual. But either way,
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  Speaker 1: what an amazing story of contact. She has so much
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  Speaker 1: to it, so many different types of visitations, so many
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  Speaker 1: different kinds of experiences. And I would say, actually, that's
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: more than rule than the exception said it before. ET
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  Speaker 1: contact is not an isolated event and often comes along
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  Speaker 1: with a wide variety of paranormal events. And as you
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  Speaker 1: can see, that's one hundred percent true with Kelly Anderson.
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  Speaker 1: I really have to thank her for sharing her experiences
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  Speaker 1: with me. I know it's not easy for a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people. She did, again insist upon anonymity, and as
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: you can see, her experiences are strange enough or I
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: totally understand why she didn't want people to know her
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: real name. Again, I did write about her experiences in
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  Speaker 1: much more detail in my book Humanoids and High Strangeness.
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  Speaker 1: It's one of twenty accounts where people have had direct
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: contact with humanoids of one kind or another. But I
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: have to say, Kelly's story is one of my favorite
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  Speaker 1: in the book, just because it's so unusual, so unique,
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  Speaker 1: and so varied. So I really want to thank you
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  Speaker 1: guys for watching. I truly appreciate it. It's because of
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: you I do this research. So thank you, thank you,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: thank you. And until next time, keep searching for the truth,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: keep asking those hard questions, and most important of all,
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  Speaker 1: because I really think that's why we came to Earth.
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  Speaker 1: Keep having fun. I will see you next time. BUYE
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  Speaker 1: for now.