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Are We Headed For a New Red Scare? · Conspiracy! The Show

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  Speaker 2: How's it going, How you guys doing.
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  Speaker 4: Excited to be back.
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  Speaker 3: We are excited to have you. We're talking about the
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  Speaker 3: Red Scare, the first Red Scare. There have been a
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  Speaker 3: few in this country and around the world, but.
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  Speaker 1: We're focusing on the podcast today, right.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, is there a podcast called the Red Scare?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very popular.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'll edit that out. Please don't mention another
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  Speaker 3: podcasts my body.
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  Speaker 1: I forgot I tarned to do, not compete cluse before
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  Speaker 1: I entered this Zoom meeting.
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  Speaker 3: So the Red Scare, if people aren't familiar, the most
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  Speaker 3: basic way to describe it was a movement in this
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  Speaker 3: country that was meant to sniff out communists and radicals.
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  Speaker 3: And what that usually meant was people who wanted to
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  Speaker 3: join labor unions and people who wanted better living and
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  Speaker 3: working conditions and things of the like. It was more
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  Speaker 3: means of crushing descent than anything, as stuff like that
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  Speaker 3: usually is.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, to be fair, those are some pretty anti
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  Speaker 1: government ideas. Livable working conditions, that's not.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this government, for sure. I don't know why I
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  Speaker 2: said that, like most.
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  Speaker 3: Governments, but you get it's uh sometimes cited as happening
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  Speaker 3: from nineteen nineteen to nineteen twenty, but it actually starts
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  Speaker 3: a little early in that.
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  Speaker 2: Nineteen seventeen I would say.
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm into the early stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, when it was more bluesy and raw.
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  Speaker 1: Hell yeah yeah, where that the Red Scare got bluesy,
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  Speaker 1: But it did.
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  Speaker 3: And what I find really interesting about this, I've been
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  Speaker 3: reading a lot about the Office of Naval Intelligence. I've
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  Speaker 3: been doing episodes about the various intelligence agencies of the world,
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  Speaker 3: and started with naval intelligence and in reading about this,
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  Speaker 3: they were hugely involved in the first red scare. What
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  Speaker 3: red scares me is how close we are to something
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  Speaker 3: like this happening again, and like not in that close, like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: we better fix this or it's gonna our grand kid turned.
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  Speaker 3: It feels like a year away, maybe six months something
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  Speaker 3: like that.
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  Speaker 1: And when are they gonna come for the dissenting podcast?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, podcasters have already started choosing side of the selection.
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  Speaker 1: We saw him sink Joe Rogan and his freaking acceptance speech.
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  Speaker 1: But the one is someone going to notice that Adam
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  Speaker 1: Todd Brown has been calling this shit but the John
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  Speaker 1: Madden of the world ending for the last ten years.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've kind of given up on talking about modern politics,
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  Speaker 3: but here we are. I mean, this is still history stuff,
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  Speaker 3: but I feel like it ties into today.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like Trump stated that union was really two
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  Speaker 4: things really struck me. I would see a highlights about
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  Speaker 4: the TikTok Bean. So when the Senate hearings, when the
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  Speaker 4: CEO for TikTok, who Singaporean, was talking about it, I
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  Speaker 4: forget Tim Cotton, Senator from Texas, maybe kept asking the
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  Speaker 4: dude like have you or have you ever been in
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  Speaker 4: member of the Chinese Communist Party And the dude is
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  Speaker 4: just like, no, I'm Singaporean. I'm from Singapore. I was
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  Speaker 4: in the military of Singapore.
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  Speaker 1: So are you Chinese or Japanese?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Essentially, you know, and it just li likens back to like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: the hearings of like have you or have you ever
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  Speaker 4: not been a member of the Communist Party?
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  Speaker 1: When did you stop beating your wife's Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 4: I think about Trump State of the Union speech, and
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  Speaker 4: I think twenty seventeen where he rails against I guess
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  Speaker 4: the last messages of the communist countries Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea,
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  Speaker 4: and it's just very sentiment of like old Red scared
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  Speaker 4: rhetoric of stomping out the communists.
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  Speaker 1: We don't have any good bad guys anymore. Those are
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  Speaker 1: the bad, Like, oh, Venezuela and Cuba scary. You know,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's not selling any John Claude Van Dam movies
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  Speaker 1: Like North Korea is kind of creepy and cool and scared.
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  Speaker 1: I'll give you that one. But Cuba and Venice, we
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  Speaker 1: got to have a better access of evil than that.
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  Speaker 5: I mean.
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  Speaker 3: There was an Amazon original series about war with Venezuela
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  Speaker 3: one with John Krazinski where he plays spy.
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  Speaker 4: Oh the Tom Clancy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Tom Clancy thing.
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  Speaker 4: And Tom Clancy's a fucking military propagandist too.
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  Speaker 1: Who would have thought the only thing Jim from the
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  Speaker 1: Office loved more than Pam was Raytheon.
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  Speaker 3: Let's talk a little more about what things were like
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  Speaker 3: leading up to the Red Scare before we get back
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  Speaker 3: to modern times. Even before the Red Scare started, the
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  Speaker 3: Office of Naval Intelligence, they were our first intelligence agency.
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  Speaker 3: They've been around the longest, and they were kind of
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  Speaker 3: the boots on the ground sniffing out radicals and extremists
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  Speaker 3: and communists during the first Red Scare, and even before
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  Speaker 3: the Red Scare started, they were on the hunt for radicals.
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  Speaker 3: But at that point it mostly just meant people trying
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  Speaker 3: to unionize at the plants where we made ships and
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  Speaker 3: bombs and whatnot. And then the Russian Revolution of nineteen
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  Speaker 3: seventeen happens, Lenin takes power, Communist Party starts to rise
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  Speaker 3: in Russia.
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  Speaker 2: We're like almost.
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  Speaker 3: At the end of World War One by that point,
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  Speaker 3: so nationalism is just off the charts in the United
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  Speaker 3: States at that point, and that Russian Revolution just sets
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  Speaker 3: something off in I feel like it more sets something
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  Speaker 3: off in the mind of the American government where they
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  Speaker 3: were like, oh, we can exploit this to.
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  Speaker 1: Whether it's a new TikTok dance or a new lever
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  Speaker 1: of control for the deep State to exercise upon you.
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  Speaker 1: You kind of have to see someone do it first
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  Speaker 1: and then you go, oh, it's possible, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: poor Rodney Mullen did the first black Ground Allie, was
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  Speaker 1: anyone ever going to jump on a skateboard? It was,
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  Speaker 1: It's impossible, it makes no sense to even try to
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  Speaker 1: do it.
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  Speaker 3: And so at the end of the day, the Red Scare,
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  Speaker 3: it wasn't so much about smoking out communists, it was
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  Speaker 3: again about crushing descent.
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  Speaker 1: I have to be honest, if I'm the US government,
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  Speaker 1: I kind of see the specifically stopping unionization at plants
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  Speaker 1: that make ships and bombs. That's kind of a I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, a full crum point you could bloit to
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  Speaker 1: the fucking strike. There is a pretty impactful like probably
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  Speaker 1: against American national interest to have a union there just
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  Speaker 1: thinking you know, like a me evil.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that was their whole thinking.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think stopping people from unionizing it the
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  Speaker 1: fucking bakeries kind of laying ass. But you know, I
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  Speaker 1: guess there's this whole slippery slope deal. Yeah, that's why
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  Speaker 1: I could never make it for the evil Shadow government, Adam.
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  Speaker 1: I got too big of a heart.
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  Speaker 2: Too big of a heart to let people unionize it
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  Speaker 2: worship back.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, too too much compassion.
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  Speaker 2: That makes sense.
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  Speaker 3: So what really kicks things into gear along the lines
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  Speaker 3: of cracking down on labor unions is a big general
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  Speaker 3: strike that happens in Seattle. Sixty thousand workers across a
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  Speaker 3: bunch of different unions all walk out at the same time.
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  Speaker 1: All fifteen hundred people in Seattle with jobs we walked out.
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  Speaker 1: I media, I see it in my head as just
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of tech douchebags living large after Apple stuck.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't know, are just like lazy hippies. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know where I was going with that choke.
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  Speaker 3: So the press in particular was really quick to label
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  Speaker 3: this strike in Seattle a communist insurrection of sorts brought
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  Speaker 3: on by foreign influences.
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  Speaker 2: There was a.
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  Speaker 3: Group that had been set up like a year prior
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  Speaker 3: called the Overman Committee that was meant to look for
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  Speaker 3: German radicals and troublemakers in this country, and as soon
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  Speaker 3: as that strike happened the next day, their mission shifted
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  Speaker 3: to labor unions.
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  Speaker 2: Basically, that's funny.
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  Speaker 1: That's kind of like when they outlawed the KKK and
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  Speaker 1: then they started the NRA the next day.
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  Speaker 2: Oh did that happen?
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  Speaker 1: I saw him in Michael Moore documentary. Adam must have happened.
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  Speaker 1: At least it happened in two thousand and one. It
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  Speaker 1: might not be true now, but in two thousand and
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  Speaker 1: one it was.
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  Speaker 3: So they issued this report about Bolshevism and all of
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  Speaker 3: the horrors that are coming our way. Because they're associating
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  Speaker 3: labor unions with the Bolshevik revolution. It must be that
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  Speaker 3: these dirty communists are coming into the country and making
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  Speaker 3: our workers unhappy when they were happy before.
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  Speaker 1: Which is kind of unfair because being in a labor
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  Speaker 1: union is cool, but it's not as cool as being
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  Speaker 1: a Bolshevik revolutionaire. I mean, that's cool. You actually drank
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  Speaker 1: the blood of the rich, You did it, man.
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  Speaker 3: They say that the Bolsheviks are going to come to
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  Speaker 3: this country and impose atheism, seize newspapers, shut down banks.
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  Speaker 3: They also referred to Russians as assassins and mad men,
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  Speaker 3: human scum, stuff like that. And again, I feel like
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  Speaker 3: we're back at this point in history, but now we're
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  Speaker 3: just talking immigrants mostly. I mean, there's several groups out
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  Speaker 3: there that are getting demonized in different ways, but it
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  Speaker 3: feels like in terms of the dehumanizing talk and the animals, criminals,
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  Speaker 3: stuff like that, it's definitely immigrants getting it right now.
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  Speaker 1: We sort of had I guess, like with eight years
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  Speaker 1: of Obama, I guess we all thought we were going
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  Speaker 1: to be like polite forever. Do you remember that when
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  Speaker 1: like shit was like a diplomatic and polite and you
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  Speaker 1: was like, oh, that was fairly reasonable what you said
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  Speaker 1: about that? And I don't know, I don't think it's
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  Speaker 1: like I think it's coming back like it Like this
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  Speaker 1: is what I was trying to say, is it's like
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  Speaker 1: we it feels like we were back on to like
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  Speaker 1: full blown scapegoating is now like open. It used to
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  Speaker 1: be you had to kind of like say the quiet
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  Speaker 1: part loud and like kind of allude to it and
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  Speaker 1: sort of be polite about it, be a polite racist, fascist,
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  Speaker 1: whatever the fuck. And now you can just be like,
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  Speaker 1: it's the fucking Mexicans dude, like they just it's open season.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, especially in terms of politics and elected officials,
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  Speaker 3: talking that way seems to have I mean, it's it's
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  Speaker 3: the thing now.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it turns out saying the loud part loud gets
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  Speaker 1: you more votes than saying the quiet. But like you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think, like, are we that surprised.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like communists and leftists organizers have kind of
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  Speaker 4: been I don't want to say central always, but definitely,
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  Speaker 4: like as far as radicals go, definitely pushing labor unions
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  Speaker 4: to a point of confrontation. I feel like that is
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  Speaker 4: a history, not even necessarily like government propaganda, but just
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  Speaker 4: like the way that leftists and communists organized, they are
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  Speaker 4: in the organization is kind of pushing a confrontation with
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  Speaker 4: the government in a way. And as far as the scapegoading, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, it's very Germans nineteen twenties nineteen thirties,
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  Speaker 4: very similar rhetoric across the board in terms of like
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  Speaker 4: the dehumanization like you said, so, yeah, absolutely, especially how
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  Speaker 4: fervent anti communists the Nazis were so along with other
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  Speaker 4: subversives like communists and leftists were also a part of
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  Speaker 4: the Holocaust. Right, people identified as like communists. Leftists were
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  Speaker 4: very much like you know, Hitler's like national socialism, but
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  Speaker 4: also very much anti Bolshevism, anti communism.
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  Speaker 3: One of the things I've legitimately worried about when it
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  Speaker 3: comes to Trump in these mass deportations. We know, when
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  Speaker 3: Hitler like really took power, he had the Night of
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  Speaker 3: the Long Knives where he literally just rounded up all
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  Speaker 3: his opposition and had him killed. What if in the
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  Speaker 3: course of these mass deportations, Trump just rounds up his
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  Speaker 3: enemies too, and it's like, sorry, fucking fight it out
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  Speaker 3: in court. We feel like there's reason to deport you.
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  Speaker 1: Like he's gonna send Ice to Rachel Maddow's house.
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  Speaker 2: Fucking Maybe you think Ice wouldn't go if he asked.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you think Ice wouldn't go. They would go. That's yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they would take the call.
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  Speaker 2: Ice would absolutely deport Rachel Maddow.
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  Speaker 1: They would argue about who got to do it? So fair?
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  Speaker 1: I've got so many guys last month, this is fucked up.
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  Speaker 4: There's a in the Nunberg Child, there's a lot of
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  Speaker 4: discussion about how regular, average everyday Germans could like turn
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  Speaker 4: around and do really really horrible shit. There's a lot
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  Speaker 4: of takeaways from it, but a lot of people talk
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  Speaker 4: about how people seeing it as just kind of doing
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  Speaker 4: their job, Like I may not have ideologically agree with
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  Speaker 4: the Nazis, but like I was just I just had
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  Speaker 4: to do my job. I just had to follow orders.
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  Speaker 4: So really begs the question of you know, a lot,
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  Speaker 4: I mean a lot of people that work for ICE,
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  Speaker 4: A lot of people that work for border patrol are
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  Speaker 4: children of immigrants, our first generation immigrants, Like a lot
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  Speaker 4: of people of color are in the military and all
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  Speaker 4: these other institutions. So it begs the question of, like,
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  Speaker 4: what will force these people to just say, no, I'm
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  Speaker 4: not doing this. You're telling me to deport all these people.
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  Speaker 4: You're telling me to like mass incarcerate these people in camps,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm just no, I refuse to do this. So
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  Speaker 4: I feel like that would be the big question for
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  Speaker 4: the people that actually like have to enforce it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it would make all the ice cratch quit.
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  Speaker 1: I think I think this would actually do it. If
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  Speaker 1: you told them they had to be nice to the immigrants,
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  Speaker 1: I think they would they would all be like, oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, just this job is going to be impossible.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what worries me?
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  Speaker 3: Is I'm assuming when mass deportations happened before, it's probably
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  Speaker 3: a little less diverse of a bunch carrying them out,
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  Speaker 3: But no one's refused it so far. We've done mass
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  Speaker 3: deportations a few times, and I mean there's always opposition,
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  Speaker 3: but not enough, not enough to stop.
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  Speaker 1: We will be rounding up the trans community. I call
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  Speaker 1: it a miss deportation.
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  Speaker 3: I do think it's coming for trans people just as
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  Speaker 3: much as immigrants. I will say one facet of American
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  Speaker 3: history where deportations were frowned upon to the point that
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  Speaker 3: a lot of them were stopped was the Red Scare.
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  Speaker 3: They tried to deport thousands of people over this, and
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  Speaker 3: somehow the I think the Secretary of Labor stepped in
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  Speaker 3: and got a bunch of them thrown out. So in
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  Speaker 3: the end they rounded up and deported I think five
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  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty six people, which is, you know, tens
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  Speaker 3: of thousands in twenty twenty four population numbers.
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  Speaker 1: But still, well damned. There should be like a service
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  Speaker 1: that really, like conveniently does the inflation rate for the
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  Speaker 1: tragedy like this as a percentage of the population. This
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  Speaker 1: was actually like five Hindenburghs.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Hindenburg. This is a weird way to say it.
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  Speaker 3: One of my favorite disasters.
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  Speaker 1: Anna Nicole Smith, the Hindenburg.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the thing about the Hindenburg, if you go back
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  Speaker 3: and watch footage of that, most of the people survived
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  Speaker 3: because it was the balloon on top that was on fire,
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  Speaker 3: not the part that held the passengers. Only like thirty
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  Speaker 3: people died and they were the ones who got out
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  Speaker 3: last as the balloon was collapsing to the ground. But
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  Speaker 3: in fact, anyway back to Red Scare, I think also
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  Speaker 3: Palestine supporters, especially vocal Palestine supporters, could be facing stuff
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  Speaker 3: like this soon. That is a thing. Stephen Miller, who
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  Speaker 3: is kind of the architect of these deportation plans, he
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  Speaker 3: has flat out said that in interviews because he's talked
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  Speaker 3: about the people that are going to get deported criminals first,
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  Speaker 3: blah blah blah, and then eventually he gets to and
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  Speaker 3: you know, maybe some people who are here legally, And
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  Speaker 3: when the interviewer asked him what he meant, he said,
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  Speaker 3: the people in the streets supporting Amas. So if what's
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  Speaker 3: happening in Israel turns into widespread protests, I think we're
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  Speaker 3: going to see people getting fucking rounded up, and I
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  Speaker 3: don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what'll happen after that.
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  Speaker 1: But I guess I'm trying to think, like, so, what's
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  Speaker 1: the criteria, Like you're at this public event and we
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  Speaker 1: come in with a clown car and a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: cops and get you or is it like you made
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  Speaker 1: these Facebook posts? I guess, And it's we're all speculating anyway.
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  Speaker 1: It's impossible to know, but I don't know. With a
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  Speaker 1: lot of this stuff, it's I'm sort of like, where
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  Speaker 1: is the marker for Okay, you're in the group, you're
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  Speaker 1: getting kicked out. Where's the sweet spot with supporting Palestine?
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  Speaker 1: Is where I'm trying, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: Like, Yeah, I think about the super Prisident and I
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  Speaker 4: forget whether it's Honduras or garam Artik is Honduras? Whukele
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  Speaker 4: the president where he just kind of rounded up sixty
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  Speaker 4: seventy thousand people and it's gonna be a thing where
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  Speaker 4: it's like it's not gonna really matter. The criteria is
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  Speaker 4: gonna be so like lax, it's just gonna be just
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  Speaker 4: round people up and put them in camps on mass like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: you're a criminal. It's like it's kind of like the
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  Speaker 4: War on Terror right, where it's like if you're a
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  Speaker 4: fighting age in a particular population, you're considered an enemy combatant.
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: So even if you've had no interaction with any sort
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: of quote unquote terrorist sales or even hamas, right, anybody
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: that's of a certain age, it's considered a part of
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: hamas because like they're in a diseased population because of
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: like resistance. So yeah, there isn't gonna be a particular
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: like level. It's just like, okay, well you're of this
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: age and you're this will just take you in anyway
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: just to say we were rounding folks up. So I
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: feel like a lot of it's gonna be like performative,
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: even though it's gonna ruin people's lives for sure, but
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: it's gonna be for the soul sake of performance to say, oh,
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: look what we're doing. Look what we're doing, Like we're
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: kicking people out, We're kicking people out. Logistically, it's just
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: like not that feasible.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: You think. It's like when when you get a new
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: boss at work and then they starts laying down the
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: lodge just to like prove they can make you do shit.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: I mean, all authority is like pretending. It's like I'm
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: pretending to like hold this authority, but I don't really
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: have it, and I have to rely on other people
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: to carry it out. And it's just like how many
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: people get told something. It's like, Okay, let me find
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: the cheapest, easiest, like most lax way to do this.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: How can I follow orders without really following orders? How
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: can I do this? It's all pretending. Everybody's pretending to
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: do the thing.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: I'm pretending to be on a podcast right now.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: So let's get back to the events of the Red
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: Scare for a minute. In nineteen nineteen, the US is
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: in heavy turmoil domestically. There's mail bombs getting sent to politicians,
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: labor strikes left and right, riots, fucking racial and otherwise
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: happening all the time. May Day nineteen nineteen was a
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: big turning point that year. Labor movement supporters gather on
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: May Day to celebrate the labor movement, and they had
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: been doing that peacefully for years before this, and somehow,
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: if you can believe it, May Day nineteen nineteen ended
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: up getting violent, which I'm sure had nothing to do
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: with the police presence and how they acted at that event,
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: which was very fucking aggressive obviously, and then Red Summer happens.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: It's a series of race riots in the summer and
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: early fall of nineteen nineteen.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: So this is not when Taylor Swift dropped for album
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Red at Timeless.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Okay, very different, very different.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Because that was my red You can this can be
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: your Red Summer. I know when my Red Summer was,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: and that was my Red Summer.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: How much of what happened then, the May Day thing
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: and Red Summer both, what are the chances that the
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: government wanted that to happen and that they might have
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: been the agitators behind it with a lot of the
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: Red Summer stuff, it was white dudes in military uniforms
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: burning down black neighborhoods and killing people.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Is this when they bombed what was that city they bombed?
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: There's a prominent black city with like a lot of
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: black owned businesses, and they like the dropped bombs from
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: a plane.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: I think you think about Tulsa, Yes, nineteen twenty one,
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: I think was Tulsa.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so right around the same time.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just wondering if it was part of it.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: I think about that a lot. But I also hear
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: it from the other side, Like anytime there's a protest,
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: anytime there's anything like, there may be agitators, for sure,
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: there are people who are a part of a protest
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: that may escalate, But it's really hard to say in
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: terms of race riot. It's like, how much agitation do
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: white folks in the nineteen twenties really need?
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: You.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: There's not a lot to push on, right, there's not
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: really that. It doesn't take a lot to kind of
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: push that button. So while I can suspect that, yeah,
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: I can see a government being instigators, it doesn't happen
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: out of nowhere. The anger and the violence and the hatred,
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: the sentiments are already there. The kindling is there, so
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: the government may be oh, I can just like the match,
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: and then from there it's like, now it's a fire.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Two things that I wish more than anything I had filmed.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: But I swear to God, I saw these with my
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: human eyes at two different Black Lives Matter protests in
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: LA when all that was happening. One was a brand
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: new freshly unwrapped with like the plastic wrap undone outlet
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: of bricks, like right in the middle of the protest,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: bat like the most convenient protest. Okay, so that's the
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: pile of bricks, and then right across the street from
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: the growth, there's got to be video fooages this somewhere
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: because there's a zillion fucking people and it was insane.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: There was a cop car flipped upside down and on fire.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Maybe it wasn't flipped upside down. I think it was
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: just on fire, but the cop car looked like the
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: fucking prop PP car from Ghostbusters two or some shit.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: It was like a movie prop car. So I don't know,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: I've seen this shit with my own fucking eyes.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a thing at one of the Santa
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: Monica protests where there was what absolutely looked like a
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: used cop car that had been repainted, just sitting in
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: front of I think Santa Monica College with a sign
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: that said free in the window, and people were like,
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: don't touch that fucking car.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: A car car there.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: My friend's dad used to do the bait car, so like,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: make a car that looks like, you know, really easy
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: to steal a ninety four camera and then people get
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: in it, doors locked from the outside electronically the cops
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: can get you, you know, pretty predatory fucked up thing,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: but funny TV show. There's a funny showta be like,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: I gotta go to work in the morning, and he'd be, look,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna make it.
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the cops they want to be able to point
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: to the regular sensibilities of people to say, oh, look
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: at these violent protesters. I think it just takes people
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: to kind of take a step back and say, oh,
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: they burned that thing down, Like that sucks. But it's like,
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: you know, whatever, stuff sometimes stuff burns, like there's agitation,
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: there's like, yeah, okay, even even with the nineteen twenties
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: protesting before that, we talk about the unrest. That's just
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: kind of a part of it is that the government
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: pushing it, for sure, but like that's also one of
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: the things that comes with unrest, is like property destruction.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: That's kind of part for the course.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that seems to be a big push right now,
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: is criminalizing protest in general. I'm sure everyone else saw
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: it also, but I saw the Reagan movie in theaters
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: because I watch it for a podcast, and that is
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: a running theme throughout that movie, which is protesters, Yeah,
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: they're exercising their constitutional rights or whatever. But we also
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: got to crush them. They are kind of the problem.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: And I just think about how many fucking Trump supporters
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: went to the Reagan movie and just got that.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: They've already had it drilled into their heads already.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're predisposed to like see dissent as like bad,
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: Like you're not supposed to speak out against Daddy.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Then what the fuck was January sixth though? You know,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: like what they what the fuck?
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: What do you call that patriotic protest?
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're protecting They're protecting the sanctity of like America. Like, yeah,
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: when they do it, they're protecting America. When they do it,
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: they're fighting a good fight for them at least, they're
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: like being righteous. But whenever they see other people speaking
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: out or protesting, it's like, oh, I have to protect
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: the status quo because I'm like a fascist little dickhead
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: and I just love sucking off Pallas.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: So there was also a coal strike in nineteen nineteen
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: that might have been the final straw in terms of
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: public opinion when it came to labor unrest, because coal
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: is pretty important at best point in history, especially in December.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: And there was a lot of bad kids around Christmas
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: that year too, so huge demand.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that puts a strain on the supply for sure.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: And this coal strike happens and Americans are like losing
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: access to coal. People are fucking cold, and the media
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: jumps in and starts calling this like a Russian revolution
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: an insurrection. So people are all fucking up in arms
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: and into the fray. I mean by nineteen nineteen, this
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: guy had been into the fray already. But I haven't
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: mentioned him yet.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Attorney General A.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: Mitchell Palmer, who is arguably the key figure in the
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: First Red Scare in terms of being the government face
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: of it when he loses his reputation as when this
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: kind of end. What he did is he responded to
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: this coal strike by invoking something called the Lever Act,
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: which was a law that was meant to prevent people
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: from hoarding and profiteering supplies during wartime. But the way
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: it was worded was just that it was a crime
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: to quote interfere with the production or transportation of necessities.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: You're an essential worker, bitch, Yeah, kind of make that coal.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: That was kind of his argument was, listen, you're violating
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: the Lever Act by being on strike. And they tried
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: to stick it out for a little bit. But that
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: did essentially break that strike. Like the guy who organized
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: it was going to fucking go to prison basically.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, he wouldn't go to prison for the cause.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess that's a decent point.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: Can't they make you like, I don't care how many
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: cops there are if this sixty thousand people are strike,
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: Like what they going to arrest sixty thousand people? Theyre
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: going to bring in new coal miners and like train
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: sixty thousand new coal miners.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: They did threaten to do that.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: I've played a lot of Minecraft, and pretty easy to
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: get coal kind of all over the place. Doesn't take
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: very long to mind the brick. I always have like
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: too much of it. Frankly, I don't really see what
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: the issue is.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: And so a year before that coal strike, the US
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: passed the Immigration Act of nineteen eighteen, which was basically
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: an update to previous immigration laws that made deporting undesirable
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: aliens much easier.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: The next year, to sitcom Olf was tragically canceled before
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: it's really had a chance to come into its own
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: I was show fucking great show.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: It expanded the definition of anarchists to include pretty much
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: anyone who is remotely associated with a group or individual
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: that the government considered communist or otherwise subversive. And this again,
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: this we've kind of talked about this part already, but
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: Trump didn't even pass it. Biden at least under the
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: Biden administration, a bill was just passed that will let
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: the president label nonprofit organizations that are deemed to be
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: terrorist affiliated. He can designate them as terrorist organizations.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Any Palestinian thing at all. You know, it's like trying
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: to fucking get cell phone chargers to kids without faces
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: like terrorists.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be exactly that.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: And we kind of saw that after nine to eleven
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: with the War on Terror, there were groups that if
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: you like donated money to people, bro, you couldn't.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Buy hummus at the grocery store without people looking at
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: you like you were a piece of shit.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah kind of.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: And yeah, like this is a thing, like Connor said,
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: with Palestine, I could absolutely see this coming back to
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: the United States really really soon.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: It seems like people are hungry for this kind of thing.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: So the Georgia thing, like I know, there was like
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: there were big protests in Georgia around the stock cop
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: City movement, and you got the governor coming on TV
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: like local news calling people like anarchists and subversives and
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: like outside agitators. That's always a word they like to use.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: So like we kind of see this rhetoric already been
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: circled in the in the mouths of politicians. So I
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: could definitely see that type of rhetoric going nationwide. Like
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: anybody who says is anything remotely against the government, Oh
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: you're an anarchist, Oh you're a blah blah blah, as
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: a justification for just like a crazy a mouse of
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: force or just like you know, bring returning of death
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: squads to murder political prisoners.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I could see a thing happening like justice reform
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: will happen someday. I mean not like totally, but when
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: I say that, I mean they're gonna come up with
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: other ways to make money off of arresting people and
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: charging people with shit. And I could see justice reform
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: right now in a way where oh, let's let's move
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: to like more home confinement and shit like that and
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: empty out these prisons a little bit, and then it'll
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: be shit like this that refills those fucking prisons. I
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: feel like the United States. People in the United States
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: would love to think this government couldn't possibly, Oh what,
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: You're gonna round up every fucking person who posted free
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: Palestine on the internet.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they might, they fucking might. Do you know how
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: many people we have in prison right now? Millions of
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: fucking people.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: How many people do we have in like shadow prison
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: and like Guantanamo Bay prisons? You know that's probably a
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: few thousand at least, like black sites.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's so much room at Guantanamo. There's only twenty
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: people being held there now. At best. I think it's
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: less than that. So, yeah, Guantanamo's mostly empty. And the
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: I mean argue with the weather. If you get sent there,
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: that's that part's going to at least be nice.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Cool.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: This is Adam is like, you know how in Succession
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Tom is like in the last season kind of like
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: shopping around which prison he wants to go to if
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: you get sent there for his white collar crime. Adam's like,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: when I get deemed a dissident towards the States, I'm
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: hoping I can get a spot in Guantano Well, obviously,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: I mean that's my that's my my reach school.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so a year removed from the Immigration Act of
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: nineteen eighteen. Attorney General Palmer is getting all this heat
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: for not having cracked down on radicals enough, and this
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: led to what became to be known as the Palmer Raids,
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: was a series of police actions November nineteen nineteen in
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: January nineteen twenty where police and federal agents rounded up
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: thousands of suspected leftists radicals, all without the aid of
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: social media, GPS, the Internet any of that, mostly based
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: on their political affiliation as opposed to having committed crimes
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: or acts against the country. I definitely couldn't see any
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: administration that might round people up based on their political
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: affiliation this country.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: No, no way.
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: They use the software where if you've ever made a
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: political donation, So I made a donation to Bernie Sanders
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: in like twenty sixteen, and so like even still I
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: get like emails because of it. So there's absolutely a
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: list of like everybody's political donation. So that's definitely going
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: to be like a tool used for the mass roundups.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: When they come for the Mary and Williamson voter there'll
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: be nobody left to speak out.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: And we've talked about the possibility of there being like
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: a social credit system in this country that replaces the
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: credit scores we have now the way that works in China.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: A big part of it is how mouthy are you
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: about the government.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: If you speak out against the.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Government, a bunch fucking good luck rent in a nice apartment.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: That could absolutely be a thing here in Bryce poverty.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: They have to let us know, and it starts if
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: all the info retroactively counts, we're all fucked. Oh yeah, yeah,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: we got it. We gotta have a chance to set
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: our own algorithm, correct your behavior.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we all we need a chance to have
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: that MSNBC Joe Scarborough interview where you have Trump in
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: and you're like, listen, we're cool, right, I'm not saying
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: anything anymore. MSNBC just flat out said that's why they
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: had that meeting with Trump.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: They're afraid of retribution, and why the fuck wouldn't they be. Yeah, really,
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: a lot of people should.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Be, especially when your face is just begging for revenge,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: like Joe Scarborough just got this awful, fucking douchey face,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: So you know, to see the whoa or tragedy befall him,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: it's just great.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I find it hard to have sympathy for someone
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: who has rumors swirling around that he may be murdered
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: one of his aides and then jokes about it to
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: don Imus.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: At least have better judgment than that.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: I like my political creeps who don't get caught. Thank you.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: The Kennedys covered that shit up. You didn't hear boo
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: about chap equitic for months?
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah you know.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Ted Kennedy had a dog named Splash that rocks.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: He wrote a kid's book about it.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: That was Kennedy's man.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm the number one presidential dog is was and
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: always will be Checkers. I'm sorry, Checkers, I'm.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Not familiar with presidential dog history.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Checkers was Nixon's dog, and you gave a speech called
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: the Checkers Speech where he was talking about all his
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: political like you know, whatever shit that he got from
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: being in office. And he's like, I can live in
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: a shitty house and blah blah blah blah blah, and
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: I got those dog, Checkers, and you won't take that
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: from me.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: I would argue the best presidential dog of all the
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: of all time is the one Biden had that kept
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: biting Secret Service agents.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: I was thinking about Major is a very close second.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like a dog that hates an undercover cop.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: That's great, this dog hates spooks and narcs.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: So after they round up all of these radicals and
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: leftists in nineteen nineteen and nineteen twenty, it culminates in
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: deportations via a ship nicknamed the Soviet Art and the
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: public and media both just enthusiastically support this shit on
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: account of all the strikes and unrest. Once protests start happening,
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: We've seen it with protests that have happened recently.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: They carry on.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: Long enough, and people are just like, can I just
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: fucking drive to work without having to do it through
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: a crowd?
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: Please?
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: And if you're not political, like that shit weighs on
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: you and it's going to be easy to sway those
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: people to the side of how about we put these
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: motherfuckers on a boat and send them to Finland, which
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: is exactly what happened.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: They sent them to Finland's what does Finland have to
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: do with it?
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: Finland, I believe, was the country that would take them.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: They tried to send them a lot via first, But
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: on the bright side, some of the people rounded up
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: refused to be deported and they were sent to a
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: concentration camp in New York called Camp Upton, so that'll
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: never happen again.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: I Camp A radicals is dangerous, man, I don't know.
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: If I was Trump, I would not want to put
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: all the radicals in one place. That seems like maybe
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: not the best idea.
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: I like your approach reverse psychology. I wouldn't want to
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: put all the radicals in one spot. It seems like,
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: I don't know, they might start talking to each other
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: and building networks and like, I don't know, organizing God.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, but if you're exterminating on the that's kind
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: of yeah.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Let people have this kind of God damn it.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: It would be a cool like series of children's books
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: like The Hunger Games, like the fucking dissident camps get
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: together to stick it to the old dean or whatever,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: the dean of the concentration camp.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: Why can't we just be headed for that kind of
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: dystopia where there's like really problematic Olympics every year and
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: otherwise we're just fucking chilling. I don't know, manba we
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: all matic Olympics every few years already, there's not room.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: My theory is that it's God punishing us for how
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: much we all masturbate this.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: Oh this is another thing that I found interesting about
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: the red scare was red flag laws. In nineteen nineteen,
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: Kansas enacted a red flag law, which meant displaying a
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: red flag, which is a common symbol among like leftist groups,
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: was outlawed, and very shortly thereafter, twenty four more states
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: quickly followed suit. I don't know if people have heard
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: the recordings and ramblings of Justice Alito and his wife,
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: but his wife has straight up said like the pride
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: flag should be banned, or there should be like a
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: counter flag that you can hang on your.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Door, anti pride shame.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: I feel like the American flag kind of starts that
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: purpose though.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I have a neighbor who put up two
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: Trump flags in front of his house. I live in
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: a townhouse, and there's like an h way and I
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: feel like the HOA was like, come on, dude, we
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: don't allow flags like that. And because like two days
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: later they were just American flags now, same same shit, Like.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, remember, Yeah, you can tell.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: You can tell when there's a house that's either super
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: patriotic in their way of framing it or just you know,
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: they have guns. I Remember I saw two houses side
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: by side once. One had an American flag and one
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: had an Oakland A's flag. I was like, they both
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: got guns. There's guns in both of those fucking houses.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: That's fine. I saw the Trump flag in my The
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Trump flags in my hometown are in same They're they're
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: all like twenty four the Revenge Tour. Let's but fuck
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: those dema cuns.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this one was pretty normal, but it was gigantic.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: It's huge.
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to do this thing where it's like, I
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: don't hate Trump supporters because they that's what feeds them.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: Like the feeling that they are hated is what like
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: gets them the So I'm like, not not in the
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: sense of like I'm trying to take away their enjoyment
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: by like not like hating them, like and just kind
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: of being sad. I'm like, oh, actually, just an idiot. Damn,
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: I kind of feel bad for you.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: That was kind of my thinking about the Trump flag.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: Like I didn't say shit about it, and I mean,
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: one big reason I wouldn't say anything about it is
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: half the fucking country voted for the guy. You're gonna
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: see Trump flags like that's it's gonna be a thing.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: But I think I think you're right, Like you feel
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: bad for all the people in the in Springfield when
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: the monoail guy comes to town takes all their money
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: and leaves, you know, like like it's I don't you know,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: I'm not just gotta take pity on them. But it's
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: like hate is the wrong choice.
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: I guess it's a it's a grift, like that's that's
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: ultimately what it And it's like that's the thing about
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: Hitler for the question of like whether he himself was incompetent,
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: Like Hitler was probably very incompetent, but there are so
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: many people within the Nazi apparatus who like genuinely believed
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: in it and who were genuinely competent that they were
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: able to execute the Holocaust kind of irrespective of like
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: whatever Hitler has going on. So that's why I think
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: with Trump, it's like Trump is probably just an idiot,
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: like an idiot grifter. He ran again to stay out
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: in prison, like and he's just kind of going up.
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: But there are people who like idealogues, the idealogues in
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: the party that will like carry it out with ruthless efficiency.
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: Is the part where I'm just like Wow, that's the
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: kind of the sad part. But for people that kind
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: of believe in trump Ism as like a thing that's
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: gonna rescue them out of what Bertie what is Bertie
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: Sanders label economic anxiety, it's just like it's just like sad,
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: it's satisfyed, like you're a fucking you're a fucking.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the notion that Trump is just going to show
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: up and start handing out jobs, it's like, well.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: I mean if you believe this and like you just
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: have like a shitload of tech stocks, like yeah, probably, yeah,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: Like yeah, I do think he's got a vision for
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: me a bitcoin holder.
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: A bitcoin I'm invested in the grift like I need,
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: I need the grip to work out, Like I have
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: my life savings in the grift. Like that's and that's
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: what the fucking the that's the whole in cel. Jordan Peterson,
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: what's the other dudes? Andrew Tate, like their whole fucking
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: thing is like, yeah, it's just a grift. I need
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: to sell people an emptiness that I can feel.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: I need to sell people an emptiness.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm selling you an emptiness so I can then
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: like sell you the cure for it.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Like you didn't know that immigrants were attacking your life
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: and ruining your whole fucking like quality of living.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: Gay people are the reason you can't get laid way
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: minute are the reason that you can't.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's just like when the
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: fellas are in charge, they'll have to give us some
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: of that claim. Who's with me? I think I saw that.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: I think I saw that in the JD Van speech once.
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: No Jvan, I literally JD Vance is like the perfect
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: encapsulation of that.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: Like another thing I found interesting reading up on the
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Red Scare was how much not only the media got
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: behind it, but film industry too. And I do wonder
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: if there will be a shift at some point where
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: if mass deportations and things like that start happening, are
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: we just gonna get like enthusiastic op eds from the
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: fucking New York Times in Washington Post about how it's
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: the right thing to do and they support it.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Probably? I mean people will. As a writer, writers will
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: write whatever you fucking pay them to write. It's like
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: that simple. And if they won't, then another guy will
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: who's pretty good. And if he's not available, there's this
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: chick and she can do it too well.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's also I'm sure they've stopped doing it now,
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: but the CIA is has been known to reach out
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: to media outlets and you know, get them on their
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: side and get them to talk about or not talk
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: about the things that they want. There was one actual
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: project called Project Mockingbird got uncovered in like nineteen seventy
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: nine that was exactly that proof of concept.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: And it's also like you think they stopped doing.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: It, Like, yeah, there's no way.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: The artic Mockingbird was very successful.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if anything, another outfit would be doing
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: it aside from the CIA.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: You just send someone else out.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: You think they trade hustles every once in a while
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: just to keep the conspiracy guys guessing, Like, hey, you
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: know what, FBI, you've had sexual blackmail domestically for the
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: last thirty years. Let's do that at the CIA and
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: we'll give you, guys naval smuggling cools could be But
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: I'm serious about that fucking right as the right way
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: you paid The right I was written their award show
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: with the Ukraine war broke out and for some reason
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: they thought we needed to say something about this on
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: this fucking Award Show. So I don't remember what I wrote,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: but I'm just writing whatever they wanted, like and it
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: was just something I totally didn't agree with, Like I
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: don't support this war. I'm gonna support the Ukrainian people.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know what the fuck is happening,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: but I was. I was being paid quite handsomely to
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: say whatever they wanted me to say. So yeah, so
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: I'll do it.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: There's lots of people who will take that rite a
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: pro hummograte, pro deportation, op ed job if it's offered
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: to him.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I probably would. I would hope that I draw
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: the line at that one, but you never know.
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, somebody, you gotta have a line. You gotta have
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: a line, like totally like but as a journalist, like
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: what what what is the money gonna cost you? Personally,
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: you can say you don't give a fuck about it,
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: and I just want the money. But it's like what's
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: on the other side of that New York Times at least,
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: like I don't fucking know, like liberal, like what I
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: expect it from. I don't know who's the right wing paper?
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: The Wall Street Journal absolutely.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the Wall Street Journal.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: If Joe Scarborough is even fucking well, he's a flip flopper.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: He's done this before. But I'm saying there's some of
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: these Democrats are packeted, man. I mean, I don't know,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: I could, I could see the New York Times do it. Like,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: I don't think they're that scrupulous.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, they're not.
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: I mean intellectual. I feel like celebrities may have a
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: different relationship with it, but you would think like a
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: journalist on some level is an intellectual and like with
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: that comes a level of integrity, Like I'm not just
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: gonna completely completely sell out, like I gotta get a
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: job somewhere serious. I don't know. Yeah, maybe maybe I'm
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: being naive.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's probably like anything else in that it's
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: both proba. There's legitimate journalists out there and there are
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: journalists who will write whatever fuck you want them to
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: write or the right amount of money. It's gonna be
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: like anything else. And you know, we just got to
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: get rid of the honest ones. Then this country will
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: be great, and.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: We're gonna do it with a series of camps.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: We are.
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: So the beginning of the end for the Red Scare
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: and Palmer both was this big warning he issued about
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: May Day nineteen twenty. He had the fucking president issue
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: at first, and then he goes in front of the
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: people a couple days later and is like, listen, fucking
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: May Day twenty twenty, baby, buckle up, stay inside. It's
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: gonna be chaos. There's gonna be protests, there's gonna be
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: acts of terror. Just you wait, America, you'll see. And
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: then May Day nineteen twenty came and went without incident,
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: and people were like, all right, God damn it, this
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: guy is talking nonsense. That part I don't think will
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: happen if some shit like this jumps off again in
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: this country. I don't think it will lose favor with
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: the public that quickly.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: I think America will be better at it.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think there was a decent amount of people
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: on both sides of these various protests the last four
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: or five years that kind of just wanted to fight
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: the cops a little bit.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: I think I think people are a lot more fucking
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: down there. Like you know, it's been a whole hundred
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: years since this happened. Then it's like nothing, none of
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: this shit has gotten better at all, Like.
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: Well, what I mean, I think the government now has
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: more means to put down descent than it did in
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: nineteen twenty. For sure, we've got more facilities, we've got
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: more cops, got more weapons. Everything they fucking need to
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: put down mass protests.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: They got it.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: But do you think that's going to discourage.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's not going to discourage people, but as
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: it goes on, how many people are going to be
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: left to fucking descent? Like again, you mentioned Dante, you
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: mentioned the dictator.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: It's El Salvador is where Boukel is and I looked
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: it up. I didn't like pull that up.
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: Thank you. In my head, I could have just looked
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: it up.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, No, it's fine, but yeah, I mean he
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: rounded up seventy thousand people in El Salvador. We got
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: more people to round up here. But we can do
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: it if he can do it. What an inspiration that
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: guy is?
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: No, you're you're joking, but like the era of mass
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: incarceration was eshered in it because they call it super prison. Yeah,
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: Like so he he is ueshered in like a new
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: era of massive incarceration that we're gonna see like across
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: the board, Like just just put them in camps just
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: because the public. What is the public gonna do. It's
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: like they're gonna cry it like it's they kind of
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: in a way. In a way outside there is a
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: different situation because like the public is willing to abide
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: by it because there's been a lot of just like uh, instability,
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: crime or whatever, what have you. Whatever. But I feel
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: like with protests it might be the same situation, Like
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: people are gonna becauseeople are gonna fight, people are gonna
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: be in desperate economic situations. So either people are gonna
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: like protest or people are gonna commit crimes, and it's
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: probably gonna be a bit of both. So people on
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: mass would probably want some relief from it, So they
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: would definitely like, yeah, just throw people in camps. If
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: they break the law, throw them in camps. If you
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: try to steal something, throw them in the camp. If
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: you protest and throw the molotov cocktail, throw them in
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: the camp. Get rid of them. That's the purpose of incarceration,
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: is to remove elements from society as opposed to confronting it.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think when it comes to the government,
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: I think both sides want that they want to be
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: able to crush descent in that way, and Trump is
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: just the perfect face for it, because when it's all over,
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: everyone can just point and go, oh, look what that
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: fucking evil dictator did.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was gonna happen. It's gonna fucking happen.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: And this is this is Fox News. Well this is
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: going on in the future, mass in car survation. What
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: the prisoner is self pleasuring problem means for the municipal
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: facilities said America is humane migration camps.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: So I think that's the end of the episode.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: Do we have any final thoughts on the Red Scare
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: or the state of America.
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: As a government employee, you still have to pre pledge
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: a pledge fealty to the state of Georgia. If you
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: work for the government in Georgia, you can't be a
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: member of the Communist Party, and you have to like
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: pledge loyalty to the US Constitution in the Georgia Constitution.
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: I don't know other papers to have loyalty oath. As
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: a federal employee, you atholl still have this for a
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: loyalty oath. I don't know if LOYTHI old came out
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: of the first one or the second one, but like
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: Lois Elks are still like on the books right now.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: Well, that's a thing.
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: If you read Project twenty twenty five, one of their
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: big initiatives is basically purging civil service jobs of people
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: who aren't loyal to the government, and by that they
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: mean loyal to Trump, and that's like one of their
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: main goals. So that I think it's kind of written
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: in stone that that's coming for I don't.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to be able to do
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff until Trump's like third term actually,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: so I'm I'm not really super worried.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, maybe halfway through the fourth something like that,
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: when he's one hundred and six and living off all
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: the adrina chrome he stole from the cabal that he
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: rounded up and put in Guantanamo.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: And he's like totally senile, but he's still like the
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: Emperor of the Known University. Let me tell you about
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: when I invented McDonald's.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: Ah, good times, good Times. It's gonna be a fucking
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: roller coaster for sure.
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: Long Live Emperor Trump.
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but that is our episode. Connor Dante, thank you
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: both for doing the pod. This upbeat moment feels like
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: the perfect time to plug some shit. I have a
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: solo podcast called in Broad Daylight that you should listen to. Also,
• 50:24
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• 50:27
  Speaker 3: like holiday specials running in terms of subscribing for bonus
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• 50:42
  Speaker 2: But in the meantime, all the bonus episodes through the
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: end of the year are free. Uh, Dante, what do
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: you got to plug?
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: Then you gonna have to plug. I'm an artist. I
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: make music. I also talk shit on Instagram. If you
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: guys want to follow me wimbo xib on everything. I
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: release music. I've released the music pretty consistently on band camp.
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: If you guys want to check me out winbow x
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: I V Yeah, that's all I have to flog.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: Nice Connor, what do you got?
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: My podcast is called Mean Boys. It's very funny. You
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: can watch it on YouTube Mean Boys Podcast, and I
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: have seven comedy albums on Spotify and band camp as well,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: if you want to keep those and follow me on
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: Instagram and stuff everything.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: Connor Rix, all right, and let's get out of here.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: Dante say goodbye, Connor say goodbye
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: Goodbye, goodbye, everybody, we love you.