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- 0:04Hello everybody. Welcome to Targeting Winners.
- 0:06This is Part 2 of our ACC preview for 2026.
- 0:11I am Tim, the FSU Homer, joined as always by Peter.
- 0:16What's going on, bud? I'm here, it's Thursday, it's in
- 0:21the middle of May. We're moving toward the season.
- 0:23I'm getting excited because we're starting to roll toward
- 0:26the season. So I'm starting to smell it,
- 0:28feel it. I'm excited.
- 0:29So yeah, things are going going well.
- 0:32So. Exciting to make sure that smell
- 0:34is the season, not anything else that could be coming out of your
- 0:36kitchen or that could be. So let's keep that going.
- 0:40Aaron, you got a busy weekend. What's going on with you up
- 0:42there? Not much, man.
- 0:46Two children. 1. One graduating college tomorrow,
- 0:501 graduating college on Saturday.
- 0:51I'm flying out there, we could go do like some food on Monday
- 0:54or something. Yeah, that's fine, man.
- 0:56Stop by. I'll, I'll, I'll text you when
- 1:00you get in here and then get all settled and visit the parentals
- 1:03and all that good stuff. But yeah, I've, I've heard I
- 1:05worked remotely. I got nothing going on.
- 1:07Well, you talked about this like bar restaurant thing the other
- 1:10weekend, that's how. Oh yes, couple of them.
- 1:13I'm in. But yeah, you know, typical New
- 1:16York rainy, you know, still still hoodie weather up here.
- 1:21God, I hate this state so much. Just like Pete definitely
- 1:25excited. A lot of the G6 odds have
- 1:29started to drop in the last few days in regards to conferences
- 1:32and win totals. So yeah, it almost feels like,
- 1:36you know, we're like halfway through the pre season and
- 1:38getting ready to go and we've got more bets today, more
- 1:41breakdowns. I'm excited.
- 1:44And you were telling me you came across some news and from the
- 1:46Big 12, America's dumped. The fire.
- 1:48So month or so ago, I bet on Iowa State under 5 1/2 at -115 I
- 1:54was just kind of, you know, cruising through the websites
- 1:57that I usually look at for some college football info.
- 2:00And I was on CBSSports.com earlier in the week.
- 2:05They're actually pretty good for college football.
- 2:06They they put up a handful of articles every week, even during
- 2:09the offseason. So if you don't have that tabbed
- 2:11as or on your favorite, should probably add it.
- 2:14But from this article, I'll just quote it because that's what I
- 2:19got written down here. Projected starter and former
- 2:22Toledo safety Braden Alls suffered a torn ACL during
- 2:26spring practice and expected to miss the entire 2026 season.
- 2:30With 24 career starts and more than 1400 snaps, Alls would have
- 2:35been Iowa State's most experienced defender, leaving a
- 2:37notable void in a secondary already trying to come together
- 2:40quickly. So obviously that moved the
- 2:43lines a little bit. You can still get under 5 1/2 -,
- 2:45130 at FanDuel if you need another nudge to to hop on this
- 2:50bed along with me. And he was kind of productive
- 2:52last year. I looked at, looked at his
- 2:53stats. 4th on the team with 52 tackles, half a sack, forced
- 2:57fumble and five interceptions, which led the team by quite a
- 3:00bit. The second most interception
- 3:02remaining on that team was 2, so a pretty good player.
- 3:05One of the top pickups in the portal for Ohio, Iowa State team
- 3:08that's not really heavy into the portal.
- 3:11So yeah, if anybody wants to suffer a season long future with
- 3:14me in the Big 12, you can still get a good number.
- 3:16I would still play that at -130 if I, if I hadn't already.
- 3:20And if you drank a little extra sassy today, you can get under 4
- 3:231/2 at DraftKings at plus 170. I wouldn't touch that.
- 3:28But that number is, is is a beautiful thing.
- 3:31But yeah, just a little update on that bet if anybody else
- 3:35wants to wants to join in and feel free.
- 3:37Let's suffer together all. Right.
- 3:40Well, we're going to jump in here to Part 2 of our ACC
- 3:44preview. Of course, we have to break all
- 3:46these conferences up pretty soon we'll be doing Big 10 Part 6,
- 3:50but for now we can break them down into two sections.
- 3:54We had some couple little action in the comments section from
- 3:58last week. Darren what what we got it going
- 3:59on over. There Tar Heel Tiger looking
- 4:02forward to to today's show and again Tar Heel, thank you for
- 4:06listening. And if you're new to us, like
- 4:07Tim had mentioned, we did these previews in full and it was just
- 4:11like 2 hours long. And, you know, we appreciate
- 4:14that. Everybody that listens to us or
- 4:16watches us here on YouTube, you know, you have lives.
- 4:20Nobody should sit and listen to us three Babble for two hours.
- 4:23So trying something new. Yeah, exactly.
- 4:27Just breaking up the larger conferences or at least the
- 4:29power fours into into two separate shows just to keep
- 4:32these videos, you know, under an hour.
- 4:35So we don't want to bore you guys for two hours.
- 4:37An hour at a time is much more acceptable.
- 4:39So sorry, heel Tiger. I'm gonna assume you're a North
- 4:42Carolina fan, and I believe that's where Tim is going to
- 4:46start us off. Yeah, well, let's start off with
- 4:49the Tar Heels. We got that plus 10,000 win the
- 4:51conference over under 4 1/2 wins.
- 4:56Peter, let's start with you since Aaron brought us in.
- 4:58Any thoughts on the Tar Heels? Yeah, I got many on this team.
- 5:02I mean, this team was a dumpster fire for the most part last
- 5:04year. I, I do not like the direction
- 5:06of this team. I mean, so the idea with Bill
- 5:10coming in right, was to just to create like an NFL style
- 5:13approach in college, which he's kind of done, I guess from the
- 5:18from the structure, from how they operate from personnel,
- 5:21from the whole thing, which great, right?
- 5:24But it did not translate to wins in the field.
- 5:26It it did not translate to just being effective.
- 5:30I mean, so I mean through the year the defense got better,
- 5:34which is good, but you know, this team just does just it
- 5:40never really looked like it was gelling like a team.
- 5:43So Fast forward right, 2026 you got Bobby Petrino in there.
- 5:49Now that's interesting, right? So you got Bill and Bobby
- 5:52standing next to each other in the sideline, right To me,
- 5:56that's two very different people, very different
- 5:59approaches. I don't know how that works.
- 6:04I don't know what the hell that's going to turn into.
- 6:06You got like an NFL organizational structure, old
- 6:10school aggressive SET style offense.
- 6:13I don't know what the hell that turns into.
- 6:15I mean, it's going to be maybe fascinating.
- 6:16I don't know. I don't know what to do with
- 6:19this. I mean, I would lean so that
- 6:20over under what, 4 1/2? I would, based on the schedule,
- 6:25I would probably lean over, but honestly, I don't know what to
- 6:28expect from this thing. I'm personally expecting a giant
- 6:31dumpster fire 'cause this is just, it just doesn't feel
- 6:34right. Like it's like taking like the
- 6:37best coaches you can find from different genres, different
- 6:40areas and just like pasting them together and seeing they, what
- 6:45they can do I, I just, maybe it'll work.
- 6:47I don't know, but I just don't see it.
- 6:49So I am staying as far away from North Carolina as I can possibly
- 6:53stay. So that's my thought.
- 6:56Darren, over to you. Yeah, I agree with almost all of
- 6:58that. But I really want to watch this
- 7:01TCU game in Ireland because if you all remember, one of the
- 7:06worst bets I made was the first bet I made.
- 7:08I was all in on Bill Belichick taking over this team.
- 7:10My first bet, a little bit of plus money, was over 7 1/2 wins.
- 7:14Completely blanking on the fact that you probably need some
- 7:17roster talent to help you and he didn't have any so so that's on
- 7:21me. So I'm not falling for it again.
- 7:23Pete mentioned the Petrino higher.
- 7:24I actually love that the the reason I'm not on this overtrain
- 7:29yet again, the schedules it I mean there there's there's six
- 7:34wins in this schedule, but I need to see how this offense
- 7:38looks. I can't tell you how many times
- 7:39I turn on a North Carolina game and because I had a futures bet
- 7:42on him last year, I turn on a lot of North Carolina games.
- 7:44I don't remember the first time that came on my screen I ever
- 7:47saw North Carolina on offense. I mean, like 3 and out was part
- 7:52of their game plan. This poor defense, which Pete
- 7:54did say got better and they actually did.
- 7:57But I mean, my God, you can only do so much over 12 games when
- 8:01your offense is not helping you. And they got nothing from this
- 8:03offense. So the two things I want to see,
- 8:06Billy Edwards, he's coming over from Wisconsin to be the QB.
- 8:10Had a good year at Maryland two years ago but was injured,
- 8:13barely played at all for Wisconsin last year.
- 8:15I'd love to see what he can do because when he's healthy, he's
- 8:18productive. But this offensive line is all
- 8:22brand new. I need to see, yeah, can they
- 8:25protect Edwards back there? They do have their running back
- 8:28coming back, Damon June, which is helpful.
- 8:31Their leading wide receiver, Jordan Shipp, is back as well.
- 8:34There are pieces to actually make this a decent offense.
- 8:38The problem is when you have that whole offensive line that
- 8:41needs to gel, run block together, pass block together,
- 8:44you cannot have Edwards get clobbered, you know, the second
- 8:47game, end of the season. So I'm avoiding the over bet for
- 8:51now, but I really do want to see what this offense looks like.
- 8:55So I think Petrino's a massive upgrade from what what kitchens
- 8:58I think they got rid of. Right, Kitchen.
- 9:00There's one last year, yeah. And it's a Belichick coach team.
- 9:04Say what you want, as little talent as he had last year, they
- 9:07still had a decent defense. So I also am cautiously
- 9:11optimistic. I would lean to the over.
- 9:16But yeah, that Week 0 game in Dublin for me, that's going to
- 9:19be must see TV because I would, I would love to see if if this
- 9:22offense is improved at all. I don't know, this feels like a
- 9:24giant ploy for Bill to get his kid this job in the future.
- 9:28I don't know, this just doesn't feel like it's.
- 9:30Going still on that the conspiracy theorist.
- 9:33I am. I was right last year.
- 9:35I was correct last year. I called it a dumpster fire from
- 9:37minute 1 and it was a dumpster fire last year.
- 9:40It's going to be a dumpster fire this year.
- 9:42I don't think Bill's actually his heart is in this.
- 9:44I think he's doing it for his kid and just going through the
- 9:46motions. Call, call me out later if I'm
- 9:49wrong, but I truly believe that. Like this is getting his kid a
- 9:52job for later. I truly believe that.
- 9:56Pete setting us up for hate mail from Tar Heels like.
- 9:59Bring it on and maybe his kid will be a great coach in the
- 10:03we're we're, we're all. About a college football betting
- 10:06community. Everybody is entitled to their
- 10:08opinion. We don't care if you agree with
- 10:10us or not. Share your opinions with us.
- 10:12We want to hear them. And if we're wrong, then by all
- 10:16means tell us we're wrong. We can't break, you know, we
- 10:17can't spend 30 minutes breaking down every position group on
- 10:20every team. So if there's somebody we're
- 10:21missing that you think is key, that the betters need to know
- 10:25about, please drop it in the comments.
- 10:27We will. We'll share it with everybody.
- 10:29Bill is 12 minutes away from sailing away on his boat with
- 10:31his 12 year old girlfriend or. Whatever the hell it is.
- 10:33And that's. Where he is, I mean, come.
- 10:35On she can stay off Petrino's motorcycle.
- 10:38That's right, right there. So interesting, Bobby.
- 10:41Steele's Bill's girlfriend. That'd be the greatest headline.
- 10:44What's the line on? All.
- 10:48Right, we're going to move on the PIT +1750 to win the
- 10:52conference over under 7 1/2 wins.
- 10:54This is a very interesting team. Darren, let's start with you.
- 10:59You would took us with no UNC. Yeah, I I love what this team is
- 11:03bringing back offensively. I think the quarterback Heinchel
- 11:05is legit. I think the running back Turner
- 11:07is also legit. The only questions I have they
- 11:10lose a couple of their top receivers, so I'm curious to see
- 11:13who steps up to replace those guys.
- 11:15Remember, this is a team. They started out smoking hot
- 11:17last year and then completely shit the bed come November.
- 11:21So I'm kind of curious to see Pat Norduzzi, who I cannot
- 11:25stand. It's like, bro, can you please
- 11:27shut up about Notre Dame and focus on your own damn school?
- 11:30Maybe that's why after Notre Dame whooped your ass last year,
- 11:33you continued to suck, but I digress.
- 11:36This schedule is certainly favorable.
- 11:39I do lean the over here defensively, you know, they lost
- 11:44a couple of their top linebackers.
- 11:45So we'll have to see how they respond there.
- 11:47There's really no difficult home games here that I look at.
- 11:51I I could certainly see them sweeping this this home schedule
- 11:55here. Nobody tough there, but there
- 11:57are a couple of interesting Rd. games here.
- 11:59Miami and Louisville be in the top two.
- 12:01Also, Virginia Tech, you don't know what they're going to look
- 12:03like with so many new pieces, but those are the only three
- 12:07games I see that could possibly be an issue.
- 12:10I mean the road road trip to Cali could be iffy.
- 12:14Any time A-Team goes all the way across the country I do worry.
- 12:18But even if that's a fourth loss, you know this is still an
- 12:218 win team. So I do like what they're
- 12:24bringing back offensively and if Narduzzi can get get those key
- 12:27linebackers replaced, this is the minimum.
- 12:29This is an 8 win team. I lean the over here.
- 12:32Peter yeah, I like what you said.
- 12:35I mean, let's forget. Let's not forget like Pat
- 12:37Narduzzi is a former Sparty. They never shut up, right?
- 12:40So that's that's kind of what they do.
- 12:41But I do like what he's building here.
- 12:44I mean, I think he's done a really nice job in a place that
- 12:48like, it's hard to make them. It's hard to make Pitt really
- 12:52good. But you can you can draw talent
- 12:54there and you can make Pitt a pretty good team.
- 12:56And he's done that right. This team can be dangerous.
- 12:59This team can can beat people, you know, like especially
- 13:04unexpectedly at times. But if you look at the schedule
- 13:06like so this 7 1/2 number is really interesting to me.
- 13:11Four and oh, out of the gate. So you have 8 more four and
- 13:14four. I can easily see eight wins
- 13:17here. So to me, I mean, just based on
- 13:19their schedule, which I think is just it fits really nicely with
- 13:23that 7 1/2. And I think for for them and one
- 13:26thing that really works nicely for Pitt is they are a tough
- 13:29home team, right? Going in there and winning.
- 13:32They are they are a tough team to play at home.
- 13:34And I think it will play right in the schedule as we go forward
- 13:36through the season. So I expect that I expect
- 13:39they'll get a four now. I expect to go four and four the
- 13:41rest of the year and that's eight wins.
- 13:43So I am making a bet here. I think I think that over is
- 13:46very, very juicy. So I'm going 2 units and a over
- 13:50because I just I think the schedule just feeds right into
- 13:53it and I'm not a big fan at of, you know, betting on former
- 13:58Sparty's and all this, but I think the schedule feeds in
- 14:01really nicely. So unless they trip and fall in
- 14:03their face, I think the eight wins is very nicely kind of in
- 14:07play for them. So that's my.
- 14:08Thoughts. Yeah, I kind of agree with that.
- 14:11I mean, I was actually leaning, you know, towards the over
- 14:14myself, but once I saw you had it, I was like, well, I'll let
- 14:17Pete grab it. So any final thoughts with that,
- 14:19Darren? No, I agree with everything you
- 14:23said. I mean the -148 is the only
- 14:25thing that scared me away. But yeah, he countered that with
- 14:29the 2 units to kind of bounce out some of that juice.
- 14:32But yeah, I agree with this bet 100%.
- 14:36I was, I was listening to another podcast a couple weeks
- 14:39ago when they were talking about, you know, they always
- 14:41talk about like those Mount Rushmore's of different
- 14:44colleges, like the best, like like Notre Dame would have like
- 14:46this all time. You know, great one.
- 14:49Michigan schools like that. Pitt has a sneaky elite.
- 14:53Mark what I mean, Aaron Donald, Larry Fitzgerald, Tony Dorsett,
- 14:57They've had some really good players from that program.
- 15:00Dan Marino. Dan Marino.
- 15:02Yeah, Jesus. A lot of big history there in
- 15:05Pitt football, so. Yeah, don't snooze on Pitt.
- 15:07Like they get some really good players that go through that
- 15:09that program they have for a long time.
- 15:12So we're going to move on to SMU, +700 to win the ACC and
- 15:18then over under of 8 1/2 wins. Peter, get us going with the
- 15:23Mustangs. Yeah.
- 15:25I mean, I think clearly a threat to to win this conference for
- 15:28sure. I mean, they're basically priced
- 15:31at 2nd tier, but I think they they, they clearly could win
- 15:35this conference schedule I think we have on here is, is to me,
- 15:41that's the biggest challenge for them.
- 15:43I like the team. I I think they are definitely a
- 15:46contender. I think that the issue with them
- 15:50for me. So it's the opposite kind of
- 15:54discussion with Pitt, right? Pitt, I really like their
- 15:56schedule. SMUI don't love their schedule.
- 16:00I think that is a bit of a problem for them.
- 16:02If you look at this thing across the board, especially if you're
- 16:04looking over on the right. So over under is 8 1/2, right?
- 16:08I mean, you're at Louisville, you're at Notre Dame, even at
- 16:12Stanford later than you're not that Stanford's any good, but
- 16:14just going out to the West Coast late in the year, it's not, not
- 16:18hard to stub your toe. I mean, I think there's adverse
- 16:22Virginia. Virginia's a problem maybe.
- 16:24I think there's enough problems on the schedule where I don't
- 16:29like that 8 1/2. I don't like the 8 1/2 number at
- 16:31all. I also don't like them to win
- 16:33this conference, so I didn't want to touch that.
- 16:35So I was kind of playing with the 8 1/2 was like the schedule
- 16:39really doesn't play into that so much.
- 16:41I mean, I could see like 6 clear wins, maybe 7 getting above
- 16:45that. Now you're starting to get a
- 16:46little questionable. So I just, I, I think the
- 16:49schedule is a problem for them, especially later in the
- 16:52schedule. Even Wake Forest at home, not
- 16:54that Wake is fantastic or anything, but still that's going
- 16:58to be a tough game. So there's some tough games
- 17:00later in the schedule that I think will create a problem to
- 17:03get above that 8 1/2. So if anything, I would maybe
- 17:08lean on the under on this thing, but I just I don't know where to
- 17:11go. So I just I kind of stayed off.
- 17:12So the ceiling is real, I think. But the schedule it, it's a
- 17:17prove it kind of thing, right? If they're going to be like
- 17:19really good, they're going to prove it with the schedule and I
- 17:21don't think they're going to do that.
- 17:22So that's my thoughts. I would lean for banging the
- 17:26over on a lot of games with this team.
- 17:33Tim just froze on. Him.
- 17:34Tim froze. Tim froze.
- 17:37He looks like he. He was about ready to talk about
- 17:39how awesome Florida State is and how they're going to upset SMU.
- 17:42And then the Internet gods are like, now stop.
- 17:44Nah, he's like over. What are you talking about?
- 17:46Yeah, he's like, whoa, I started talking about how, you know,
- 17:50basically the opposite of North Carolina.
- 17:51North Carolina has a decent defense.
- 17:52This team does not. I don't think, I think be a lot
- 17:55of 4538 games on his schedule this year.
- 17:59So I'd be looking for betting a lot of overs this year.
- 18:01Darren, any final thoughts with SMU?
- 18:04A little I, I kind of agree with a little of both you guys said,
- 18:07but also not with what what you guys said, like this schedule,
- 18:11like Pete's, right. It could be tricky because
- 18:13there's a lot of teams on here who are expected to kind of take
- 18:16a step forward. If they do that, that in half
- 18:20could be a problem because if you look at SM us roster outside
- 18:23of Kevin Jennings, they're really not bringing a lot back.
- 18:27They didn't get that Cal transfer at the running back
- 18:29position, Raphael, but they're losing their top 2 Rogers from
- 18:33last year. Their top two wide receivers are
- 18:34gone. Nobody on the defensive line
- 18:36returns. There are two leading tacklers
- 18:39who are both safeties. They're also gone.
- 18:41So you know, is Lashley going to have another successful haul in
- 18:46the portal? If he does, yeah, this team will
- 18:49be nine wins and be competing for the ACC title.
- 18:51But that's a lot to replace. And if he if he doesn't hit on
- 18:56one or two position groups, some of these toss UPS, I could go
- 19:00against SMU here. But yeah, yeah, kind of have to
- 19:03trust him. I mean, when they came in couple
- 19:05years ago, I mean he went undefeated in the conference his
- 19:08first year. I mean, when they were moving up
- 19:09from from a group of five, they they prepped for this.
- 19:12So I mean, they're no joke. But if a couple of these other
- 19:15teams improve and have actually not lost as much as what SMU
- 19:19has, yeah. Like Pete said, I didn't know
- 19:22what to do with this team. I mean, I have Louisville.
- 19:24So I'm hoping that Week 3 match up, SMU goes in there and gets
- 19:28the beat down that that they certainly could.
- 19:30And I mean, yeah, Pete and I think we know what Florida
- 19:33State's going to look like. Tim will tell you the opposite.
- 19:36But it's a road game. You never know what's going to
- 19:38happen there. Norvell.
- 19:39Norvell could be coaching for his job.
- 19:41You don't know what these teams are going to look like first
- 19:43game right out of the gate. Yeah, I just, my gut tells me,
- 19:48yeah, this is this is a 9 or 10 win team.
- 19:50But I mean, you're losing your entire defensive line or you're
- 19:53going to be able to stop the run or you're going to be able to
- 19:55get pressure on the other team's quarterback.
- 19:57It's just too many, too many things here.
- 19:59That oh, like all the other Texas teams, though, they can
- 20:01spend money. They can.
- 20:03They can, but it's like 8 knots. They're the original Nil, you
- 20:06know, the Pony Express. So they'll they'll get the
- 20:10talent in there one way or another.
- 20:12So they got plenty of money to throw around.
- 20:13So we'll see what happens there. We're going to go over to
- 20:15Stanford. Big favorite here, plus 25,000
- 20:22over under his 3 1/2 wins. I do believe we have a bet on
- 20:25this one. Peter, let's start with you with
- 20:26Stanford. I mean, the tree, the trees had
- 20:31a rough time here. So hey, listen, come on.
- 20:34As as a Colts guy, as an Andrew Luck guy, I'm very happy that
- 20:39he's there. I think longer term, maybe he
- 20:43can turn this program into something.
- 20:47At the moment, this program is dead in the water.
- 20:50I, I don't know what I mean, come on the over under 3 1/2.
- 20:54I don't even know if I can find four wins on the schedule.
- 20:58I I, I just the only thing that plays in their favor sometimes
- 21:02here is just the travel, right? So, you know, based on their
- 21:06structure, like somebody's traveling back and forth across
- 21:08the country, maybe that'll serve their serve, serve them well
- 21:11where they can get a win when really they're just not the
- 21:14better team. They get a win because of
- 21:15travel, but they're just just not a good team.
- 21:18I, I just, they're in rebuilding mode.
- 21:21Like like true deep rebuilding mode, it's going to take some
- 21:25time. So I generally don't touch any
- 21:28team that's in deep rebuilding mode because you just, you don't
- 21:31know what the hell they're going to do.
- 21:32I mean, they could suddenly be decent, but I don't know what's
- 21:37going to happen, right? I don't see any indicators
- 21:39that's going to happen. So from that perspective, to me,
- 21:42they're still a rebuilding team. So from that perspective, I'm
- 21:45out. Darren, over to you.
- 21:50I don't like this team at all. I thought 2025 when Andrew Luck
- 21:54came in with Frank Wright was supposed to be like, OK, let's
- 21:56reset the program. Let's see what we have and let's
- 21:58build from there. I don't really know if they
- 22:00built anything last year. I just didn't see it.
- 22:04I mean, you're running back returns Ford, which is nice.
- 22:07He was he was pretty good. Four O lineman return also nice.
- 22:11But I mean, what else do you got?
- 22:12Is that Michigan transfer Davis Warren?
- 22:15Is he going to be the QB? Who knows?
- 22:17I mean, Pete, is he even is he even going to add a win to that
- 22:21team if he's if he ends up being the guy?
- 22:23I. Mean on that roster maybe I
- 22:25don't know I mean it's that roster is terrible I.
- 22:28Mean and a lot of the defensive production comes back, but this
- 22:30defense was terrible last year, bottom of the conference in a
- 22:33lot of categories. I mean, and just look at this
- 22:35schedule. We, we, Tim and I always harp
- 22:37about travel from time zone to time zone.
- 22:39I mean for, I mean, let's just start with the home games.
- 22:41You have Miami, SMU and NC State coming.
- 22:44That's probably 3 losses right there.
- 22:46You got a road game in Notre Dame, a road game at Louisville,
- 22:50and then you have three trips out east of Virginia Tech, Duke,
- 22:53probably not very good and Wake Forest.
- 22:55So Duke, Wake, VAH, Tech, Louisville, Notre Dame, Miami,
- 23:00SMU and NC State. That's.
- 23:02Probably 8 losses right there. They always struggle with
- 23:05Hawaii. You know, Pete will tell you how
- 23:06awesome Hawaii is, but I mean, even if Hawaii's on a down here,
- 23:10outside of Hawaii and Elon, where are they getting two more
- 23:14wins off of this? I just just where I, I don't
- 23:18even, I, I don't know, man. They're beating Musk.
- 23:23Outside of that, I don't know. Well, maybe Cal.
- 23:26I mean, it's a rivalry game. No, they're not going to beat
- 23:28Cal. Cal has a quarterback head coach
- 23:31that knows defense. Even.
- 23:33I'm trying to play devil's advocate here.
- 23:35I'm scared. I appreciate that because you
- 23:37know, we do that all the time, play the other side, but I just.
- 23:40But even they do, that's remember 3.
- 23:42That's getting them nowhere. They're still 3.
- 23:43Yeah, so we got to find two more, so.
- 23:46I mean, Hawaii comes to them. That's not that bad of a trip.
- 23:49I mean. Hawaii was a better team by far.
- 23:53I mean, that's not yeah. I just, I just, I mean, I've, I
- 23:57saw maybe three if they're lucky, plus I got a little bit
- 24:01of a A+ number on the under. So yeah, Tim show that bad boy
- 24:05I, I did 1 unit under 3 1/2 + 100 was actually available at
- 24:10MGMI. Just, I just don't see three
- 24:13wins, much less 4, you know, and I hope better for them.
- 24:18I mean, God forbid they hold up their academic standards, you
- 24:22know, I mean, how dare they, But I just.
- 24:27That's part of the problem with them.
- 24:29Start this problem with them, right?
- 24:30They keep holding academic standards up and they're having
- 24:33problems getting people in there and you're going to have this
- 24:35issue which fine, but yeah, I agree.
- 24:39This is great that I mean I would do nothing but this.
- 24:42This is the best bet with them because they're the only.
- 24:43Plausible outcome. We can see this.
- 24:47One and and if Hawaii goes out there and wins week 1, I I'm not
- 24:50even going to worry about this one for the rest of year, to be
- 24:52honest with you, because yeah, that's that could be the swing
- 24:54game if they even if Steven wins that I don't even know if
- 24:59they're still getting to four. I just no, I don't know.
- 25:04A lot had a lot of injuries, suspensions or whatever has to
- 25:07happen. I think for that for that to go
- 25:10down. Let's move on to Syracuse plus
- 25:1315,000 to win the conference over under 4 1/2 wins.
- 25:18How's it up there, Pete? Let's start with you with frigid
- 25:21Syracuse. Our boy Jeff out there.
- 25:22How's he going to like this year?
- 25:24I don't think it's going to like this year at all, to be honest
- 25:26with you. I mean, that 4 1/2 is a pretty
- 25:28good indicator, plus 15,000. It's not a better indicator
- 25:31either. I mean, yeah, I think I don't
- 25:35think this team is very good. I have concerns on both sides of
- 25:39the ball, to be honest with you, with with this team.
- 25:42I mean, they were 3:00 and 9:00 last year after a really good
- 25:45debut season. Now that obviously there were
- 25:48some factors that played into that debut season, including
- 25:51poaching a quarterback that served them well and that
- 25:53debuting season for the for the coach.
- 25:55So after that, it's kind of been a problem.
- 25:58And, you know, I just, I, I think I don't know what the hell
- 26:03has happened to this program honestly, over time, you know,
- 26:06it's one of these programs that seems to have gotten lost like
- 26:09when we were growing up. So we're all kind of older here
- 26:11and we all grew up in New York. Obviously, for those of you that
- 26:14are listening that don't know that we grew up in like kind of
- 26:16the Albany area, right? So like, Syracuse was a kind of
- 26:19a big deal. The Dome was a big deal.
- 26:21Syracuse is a good team. That was a big deal.
- 26:23I mean, they were a significant player in in college football.
- 26:28But I mean, this program has really slid, yeah, slid down.
- 26:33I mean, they just they have a problem drawing talent.
- 26:38They that you know, it's just it's been it's been a consistent
- 26:41issue for them for a while here. Occasionally there's a pop out
- 26:44season where they get a player or something fine.
- 26:49But like continuity here is an issue.
- 26:53And I think we're going to see that this year.
- 26:56You know that 4, you know, 4.5 over under looking at the
- 27:00schedule. I mean, I'm, I mean, for me, I'm
- 27:07leaning under on the schedule when I look at it because I
- 27:09don't see five wins here. I'm not betting it.
- 27:13But if I had, if you put a gun in my head and make me do
- 27:16something, I would bet the under just because I don't think this
- 27:19team is very good. And when I when I look at the
- 27:22schedule, I think that's a problem.
- 27:23So yeah, I am not high at all on this team and yeah, it's just
- 27:29not been good. So yeah, those are my thoughts.
- 27:32Darren. Yeah, again, as much as
- 27:37disagreeing would would bring more fun to the show, I can't
- 27:40disagree with this. I mean, if if Angele is healthy,
- 27:44which some reports are, he is OK.
- 27:48Their offense may do something. But again, he's losing all his
- 27:51running backs and his wide receivers.
- 27:52He's got to learn to to connect with a whole bunch of new skill
- 27:55players here. This defense not any better.
- 27:58And talked about how bad Stanford was.
- 27:59Well, Syracuse was about the only team that was just as bad.
- 28:03The one good thing Fran Brown did, he learned that a lacrosse
- 28:06player as your backup quarterback, not ideal.
- 28:09So he went out and got himself Omari Odom and Malachi Nelson
- 28:13just in case. Angela's not healthy, so good
- 28:15move there. So if anything happens to him,
- 28:18at least they've got people that have played football at the
- 28:21quarterback position before to back him up.
- 28:23So that's good. But this schedule, holy crap.
- 28:27Louisville, SMU, Clemson, Notre Dame, You go to Pitt, Virginia,
- 28:31NC State, Where the hell are they getting five wins out of
- 28:34this? I.
- 28:36No idea. I'm trying to find five.
- 28:38I can find a few. I don't think I.
- 28:40Can can you find 3 bucks in there?
- 28:43Well, New Hampshire, I mean. OK, one California's.
- 28:47Akon in there. Maybe can meet.
- 28:49Is that Yukon in there? You know Yukon.
- 28:51Yukon's in there, maybe 3. OK.
- 28:53I mean, they do have a lot of their tougher games.
- 28:55You know, Clemson, SMU, Notre Dame, they're all coming to the
- 28:57Carrier Dome. So it's like it's not maybe at
- 29:00North Carolina they can get a win.
- 29:03I probably do not. Notre Dame was ahead of them 21
- 29:05to nothing last year without even running an offensive.
- 29:08Play. That is true, I forgot.
- 29:09About that. But that was on the road.
- 29:11That doesn't happen that often, but I mean like.
- 29:15I think I want them. I want them to be good because
- 29:18obviously one of our best friends is a fan.
- 29:20I still. Live.
- 29:21I do too. Right, a few hours from the
- 29:22area, but Ram Brown was supposed to be a badass recruiter.
- 29:27Man, I. Guess we'll.
- 29:29Find out. I guess we're going to find out.
- 29:32But if Angele's healthy. Maybe they can pull off an upset
- 29:35at home. You know, somewhere, one of
- 29:37those, one of those, maybe SMU, they can.
- 29:40Yeah. I mean, didn't they stick it to
- 29:41Miami a couple years ago at the Dome?
- 29:44So, I mean, they're certainly capable, but they had Kyle.
- 29:47No place like Dome. So that's that was two years
- 29:49ago. Yeah, yeah.
- 29:50I mean, I was daring him. Not that impressive a structure
- 29:53anymore. Yeah, if you have the right
- 29:55quarterback maybe, but that's just not, I mean they.
- 29:57Do. But is he healthy?
- 29:59Is. No, they don't have the
- 30:00quarterback that two years ago. It's not the same thing.
- 30:02I mean, come on. Are you dissing a former Notre
- 30:06Dame quarterback? Am I hearing this correctly?
- 30:08I am. That's fair.
- 30:09Notre Dame slander. That's it, I'm doubling up on
- 30:12Stanford. Fuck Davis Warren.
- 30:13Those Michigan XQB suck. Come on, Notre Dame, in the last
- 30:18couple of decades, it's not exactly known for the great
- 30:21quarterbacks. And the day they were, they're
- 30:23not known for their great quarterbacks.
- 30:24No, they're not, but. When they're not getting
- 30:26quarterbacks in the league, there's like none because they
- 30:29don't have any because it's just that's not what they're known
- 30:31for. All they need to do is turn
- 30:32around and hand a ball off. Right, they have good running.
- 30:35Backs here, take the ball, run. There you go.
- 30:37Because they turn the right way, 95% of the time they're going to
- 30:40be OK. So that's not that doesn't help,
- 30:43yeah. All right, we're going to move
- 30:45on to Virginia at plus 1800 for the conference winner and the
- 30:49win total of 7 1/2 wins. The Cavaliers, Darren, what are
- 30:53you thinking about them? You know, credits of Virginia,
- 30:57man, they went all in last year and it actually worked for them.
- 31:01They did make it to the ACC title game, so good on them.
- 31:05I think they've got that mindset now like SMU.
- 31:07They cannot go back. I just I, I, I'm torn here.
- 31:15I mean that 7 1/2 is juice to the over.
- 31:17I can certainly see that that schedule is not terrible.
- 31:20They do get 3 starters on the O line back the defense, ton of
- 31:24depth coming back and that was actually a really good unit last
- 31:27year. Again, you're a quarterback
- 31:29play. You lost Chandler Morris, you
- 31:30got the Missouri kid Tribula coming in, you got the
- 31:32Pittsburgh guy who got replaced by Heinchel there.
- 31:36I have not seen who's winning that quarterback battle.
- 31:39So that'll certainly be interesting to see who comes out
- 31:41as the QB one there. I like this team.
- 31:44I mean, the juice of -142 at FanDuel as of the other day, I
- 31:48don't hate that. I didn't bet this.
- 31:51I would strongly lean that. I do want to watch that, that
- 31:54Week 0 game, that NC State game in Brazil.
- 31:58We talked about NC State last week.
- 32:01You know, outside the great quarterback that they have, they
- 32:03don't really have much else either.
- 32:04So I'm kind of curious. I think that's like a
- 32:05three-point spread. That's like 2 1/2 or 3 point
- 32:09spread. So really don't know which way
- 32:11to go on that game. But that again, that's going to
- 32:13be a fun game to watch. But I think Virginia's all in
- 32:16this year. Again, if I had to fire anything
- 32:18on here, I would, I would play that juice.
- 32:21I would go over 7 1/2. I I don't hate this schedule or
- 32:23this team at all. Peter.
- 32:27Yeah, I agree. I mean, I think this team took
- 32:30it up a notch, right? I think this program has been
- 32:32elevated to an A level up, right?
- 32:36They're they're a good team, right?
- 32:37They're it'd be hard to argue they're not a good team.
- 32:39Now the issue is because this is a betting show, that's what we
- 32:43do, right, is I think the market has caught up.
- 32:46So I think they're being priced like a good team now.
- 32:49And I think for me the issue is being priced as a good team.
- 32:53They're a little bit overpriced at the moment, right?
- 32:55The seven and a half with the schedule.
- 32:58I'm looking through it like, OK, maybe, but like you're, you're
- 33:02like you're you're, you're on either side of this.
- 33:06Like I couldn't discern whether it's eight or the other.
- 33:11Like it's just, it's just too close for me.
- 33:13So the issue with them, I think it's a they are a good team and
- 33:16I think hats off to the coaching staff and what they've done.
- 33:21I really think like they've actually changed to the
- 33:25trajectory of this team going forward.
- 33:27So hats off, right, right. But from the betting perspective
- 33:30right now, I think the market is caught up and I think it's a bit
- 33:32of a challenge betting right now.
- 33:34I think it's got to evolve another year.
- 33:37I mean, maybe in the middle of the season we can see what the
- 33:39over unders look like and all that.
- 33:40Right now from a, you know, from a kind of futures perspective,
- 33:44it's not bettable to me because I think there's the market has
- 33:47caught up with they're leveling up and we have to see what
- 33:50happens. So hats off of Virginia.
- 33:52I think they did a great job. I just can't bet them right now
- 33:55because I just got to see what happens.
- 33:57That's my thoughts. Yeah, I agree with that.
- 34:00I was actually going to know it for myself.
- 34:03It's. Funny that you mention that
- 34:04because the next team I feel the exact same way you.
- 34:08Are right, you are right. Well, Speaking of the next team
- 34:13Virginia Tech plus 2250. The over under win total is 6
- 34:18and a half. Here we go yes, this is one of
- 34:28the pretty cool pre game things they got there.
- 34:31Well, you had the sound effects generally.
- 34:33Let's start with you. I actually got a play on this
- 34:34one, so take us in there. Yeah, I mean, this that sound
- 34:38like a broken record, but everything Pete said about
- 34:40Virginia I think applies here. We talked about coaches back in
- 34:46the offseason with Mark from coacheshotseat.com.
- 34:49I think that unanimously this was like our favorite hire of
- 34:53the offseason. So credit to Virginia Tech for
- 34:54going out and getting James Franklin.
- 34:57Problem is, everybody loves the hire of James Franklin.
- 35:01Everybody loves the guys he brought from Penn State.
- 35:04Everybody loves the fact that they're top five in the country
- 35:07in returning production and there's no value here anymore.
- 35:10So I do like this team, but I, I can't bet him now.
- 35:15I mean, the 6 1/2 is, is heavily juiced.
- 35:17I see -152 here at FanDuel, he brought Drunkmeyer over to be
- 35:22his QB at the coach that got fired is back as the defensive
- 35:27coordinator. He does have some work to do,
- 35:29but I mean, a ton of returning production on both sides of the
- 35:32ball here. Yeah.
- 35:34And even if there there wasn't that, you know, all the all the
- 35:38juice here, this schedule's got a lot of toss up games and I
- 35:42just couldn't figure out which way to go.
- 35:44I mean, you look at the roads. Thank you, Tim.
- 35:46The road schedule again, the trip to Cal, just all the way
- 35:48across the country, Clemson, SMU and Miami are Rd. games.
- 35:52Those are all going to be tough. They host Pitt, they host
- 35:56Virginia. Don't sleep on that Old Dominion
- 35:59game. If you remember last year, Old
- 36:01Dominion put up a 45 burger on Virginia Tech and took them down
- 36:05pretty hardcore, and they actually look kind of good this
- 36:07year. I like what Franklin's done.
- 36:10I mean, he's got no problem whooping everybody's ass that
- 36:13he's supposed to whoop, but there's just no, like if I could
- 36:19get an ultra total of 7 1/2, that would probably be plus
- 36:21money, but there's just a lot of tough games on the schedule for
- 36:24me to even take a stab at that. So love the team, but again,
- 36:29when you're when you're replacing an entire roster, it's
- 36:32like it's tough to, to put your money on which way it's gonna
- 36:35go. So, yeah, I, I, I don't have a,
- 36:39a lean or a bet here, you know, just enjoy the, you know, all
- 36:44the home game music, I guess before they get started.
- 36:49Peter, I mean, a little bit of the same I said earlier, right?
- 36:52This is a massive rebuild, a total change in trajectory for a
- 36:56team. Yeah.
- 36:58I mean, this is a incredible coaching hire for this team.
- 37:02Like we're the this team, this this program from where it was
- 37:07to where it's going is a entire change.
- 37:12Like, I could have not parachuted in a better hire for
- 37:16this program. Fantastic.
- 37:18And I I spent enough time beating up James Franklin at
- 37:21Penn State for, you know, his gaffes and all that.
- 37:24But James Franklin at Virginia Tech, good God, that's an
- 37:28incredible hire for them. This dude can this dude can
- 37:31recruit like top five in the country.
- 37:34I mean, he's incredible. So yeah, the future of this team
- 37:37is is awesome. Just at the moment, right?
- 37:40There's so many unknowns. It's year one.
- 37:43Like there's so many pieces moving around the, the market's
- 37:47already pricing up because it's James Franklin, which I get it.
- 37:50It's just really hard to bet this right now because it's,
- 37:53it's just there's so many moving things going on at the same time
- 37:57that it's just very difficult to to bet this thing right now.
- 38:00So I wouldn't touch it because of that.
- 38:04But I absolutely love where this team is going like a year from
- 38:08now when we're talking about this, it's going to be
- 38:11intriguing because I can't wait to see his draft classes.
- 38:14I can't just see see where this goes because I think it's going
- 38:17to be pretty. We're going to see Virginia Tech
- 38:19rise up the ranks in this conference and be a perennial
- 38:24contender in this conference. And that's going to be pretty
- 38:26exciting. So right now it's just too
- 38:28early, so I'm out. Yeah, next year they're going to
- 38:31be 12:50 to win the conference with a win total of 8.
- 38:34And a half? Absolutely.
- 38:35And they should be and you should.
- 38:36Be exactly. Well, the biggest question for
- 38:40me was the consistency. You know, they did bring a lot
- 38:42of new personnel from, from Penn State.
- 38:46And like I said it, the price is not great, but I did bet on
- 38:50them. I did bet the over.
- 38:52So I just put a little bit more on it.
- 38:54Get get a little bit, a little bit of a profit more.
- 38:57Anyway, with the -155 for them to not hit this, they'd have to
- 39:02lose 5 games. I don't see five top five teams
- 39:06on their schedule. I think only one.
- 39:08So James, Frank and Uzi beats everybody else.
- 39:10So the only top five team would probably be Miami and that's on
- 39:14the road anyway. So we can talk to.
- 39:16I think they're going to be 4, one O right off the gate.
- 39:19Then they got that game against, I believe they're playing pit
- 39:23after that, yeah. And then they got Cal and they
- 39:27got, I think they got Stanford. I think they got Syracuse on the
- 39:29schedule too. So I think it seems to be a
- 39:33layup for me hate, you know, I hate where this team is going
- 39:36because you know, in the ACC as AFSU fan.
- 39:39But yeah, I did 3 units on this one.
- 39:42It seems to be a layup juice a little bit high, but I'll take
- 39:44it and I'm going to roll with the Hokies over and get some ash
- 39:48wins. Be honest.
- 39:49You're you're betting on James Franklin, right?
- 39:51I mean, this is a James Franklin bet right here.
- 39:53Yeah. He's not going to lose games
- 39:55with his team that he shouldn't lose.
- 39:58Period. Yeah, I'm not concerned at all
- 39:59with the Old Dominion game. I know what they.
- 40:02Did that's a fair bet? That's a totally fair bet
- 40:04because he he doesn't lose games he shouldn't lose usually that
- 40:07that's fair. So that's like Kellen, Alabama
- 40:11to watch out for Florida State this year because you know, what
- 40:13happened last year, last year doesn't matter anymore.
- 40:16So we're going to, we're getting him, James.
- 40:19Makes a lot of sense. So I get it.
- 40:20Yeah, I. Mean as much as we love to bash
- 40:23the man. But yeah, right.
- 40:24No, I bash him because he's in the big huge games.
- 40:27He makes a gaffe once, right? One play gaffe.
- 40:31But still, I don't bash the guy for his recruiting.
- 40:34But even then at the end of of two years ago, like that playoff
- 40:38game, I don't think any of that was on him.
- 40:40I mean, I think Drew Aller, Drew Aller just underperformed.
- 40:43I don't think James Franklin had his James Franklin type moment.
- 40:48Like Crystal Ball last year, exactly.
- 40:49One of those guys had a problem. They both took their teams deep
- 40:53into the playoffs and did not have a gaffe, and they were
- 40:57solid, right? So I agree, yeah.
- 40:59Yeah, I totally get where it's coming from.
- 41:01Yeah. All right.
- 41:02So we got Wake Forest Plus 7500 with over under a 5 1/2 Peter.
- 41:08We're winding down. Take us through it.
- 41:10Yeah, they're winding down too. They were a really good team and
- 41:13they are descending. The question is how, how far do
- 41:17they descend, right? That's you're trying to pick
- 41:20the, the, I guess, the magnitude of the trajectory of their
- 41:24descent, right? Which I don't like to do because
- 41:28it's hard to do that. So, yeah, they were, they were
- 41:32what, nine and four? They were really good team.
- 41:34They're not going to do that again this time because they've
- 41:38lost a lot of players. It's going to be a bit of a
- 41:40challenge. The wind totals 5 1/2, I
- 41:43believe, right in the screen in front of me here.
- 41:46It's playable, you know, maybe over.
- 41:51I thought about playing, I thought about playing over here.
- 41:54But I, I'm trying to keep my bats to a minimum with these
- 41:56futures. And so it was between this and
- 41:59Pitt, right? And so I thought Pitt was a far
- 42:01better play than the two. But I consider the over here
- 42:04'cause I do think if you look at the schedule, can I find six
- 42:07wins here? I think I can find six wins
- 42:10here, right? I I think I can do that with
- 42:13this team, 'cause I don't think this team is, is bad.
- 42:15I think they're just kind of coming off a pretty gosh darn
- 42:19Goodyear. They're going to retool.
- 42:22So yeah, I think it's a decent play at the over here.
- 42:25So I would lean over, but I had to make a decision.
- 42:29I went with Pitt, so I didn't go this direction.
- 42:31So, but still, I think it's a pretty plausible play on the
- 42:35over at that 5 1/2. So those are my thoughts.
- 42:39And finally, Darren. Yeah, I mean, I like what this
- 42:42team is bringing back defensively, offensively, I just
- 42:46see potential issues here. I mean, Ashford last year was
- 42:49really good. And Pete, do you know who's
- 42:52quarterback in this team this year?
- 42:54Probably my mom. I don't know.
- 42:56Nope, she might do better. It's Gio freaking Lopez, baby.
- 43:00My God, I knew. That.
- 43:02And you want to, you want to rethink, you want to rethink
- 43:04that over lean because Geo. Loflin is on the schedule.
- 43:08I mean, if I'm looking on the schedule, I mean Merrimack as
- 43:11the schedule is through. I mean, Stanford blows there's
- 43:15three, so I mean I can get 3 and can I get a real?
- 43:19Move ever? Is Gio Lopez leaving South
- 43:21Alabama? Well it's funny you mention that
- 43:24because the reason why Pete's over has some some greens to it
- 43:28is the offensive coordinator at Wake this year was Gio's
- 43:32offensive coordinator 2 years ago at South Alabama.
- 43:34So lock it up. I do not know that lock it up.
- 43:38Hey, that's why you watch this show, baby, because Tim is eye
- 43:42candy and we also bring out things that you may.
- 43:44Not, that's right, this. Would be interesting.
- 43:47I mean, talk about a guy. Talk about a guy who two years
- 43:50ago had a lot of buzz around him who has totally destroyed every
- 43:57aspect of his ability to go forward from here.
- 43:59Like from really good player to like, garbage.
- 44:03So if he can resurrect it, fine. I mean, I don't know but.
- 44:06I mean, we're going to see what is he actually good and.
- 44:09Just going to North. Carolina, with no roster talent
- 44:12maybe hindered his progress. I mean, he's still in the ACC,
- 44:16which is not the toughest conference in the world if
- 44:19you're a. Power.
- 44:19Maybe Bill Belichick was holding him back.
- 44:21I think that's what. Maybe Bobby Petrino was ready to
- 44:23unleash him. You never know.
- 44:25That's true. But again, there's just not a
- 44:27lot coming back on this offense. Claiborne, their running back is
- 44:31gone. They got one of their two
- 44:33starters returning is on the offensive lines.
- 44:35There's going to be some work to do to to score some points here.
- 44:39Yeah, I I was looking at that schedule as Pete was talking.
- 44:43I don't even know if they're going to beat Purdue, man to be.
- 44:46Honest, I got three, maybe 4 I mean.
- 44:49I mean Akron fine. Merrimack fine.
- 44:52Home against. Duke.
- 44:54Stanford fine. Is there two more in there?
- 44:58I don't know, no. I mean all those Rd. games are
- 45:02probably losses except maybe Purdue.
- 45:07Yeah I had a slight lead to the under upon reading the Gio Lopez
- 45:11news and then I went like no lean when I found out his
- 45:13offense coordinator was the same dude who was his offense
- 45:16coordinator 2 years ago. It's out in Alabama that.
- 45:18Could, could that combo, could that combo get him two more
- 45:21games? Could could Gio go off in a
- 45:23game? Could Gio go off in a game?
- 45:24Maybe. I mean, he could, right?
- 45:27Like an equal team. That's just not that good.
- 45:30Could he go off? He could he?
- 45:31He's done that before. So maybe so I don't know.
- 45:34That's someone that makes a tough bet because like, who
- 45:37knows? It's just it's hard to bet this
- 45:39thing. Yeah, and that like he went off
- 45:41at South Alabama, but he didn't face any defenses like Miami or
- 45:46Louisville or Virginia or SMU. Yeah, I I agree.
- 45:50I know. Different animal here that's.
- 45:52Why I didn't touch it, I don't fucking know.
- 45:53Yeah, I didn't either, right. All right, well, let's wrap this
- 45:59up. We do have our bets for this
- 46:01thing. I have Virginia Tech over 6 1/2
- 46:04wins with three units beat. I got pit over 7 1/2 two units.
- 46:10So yeah go for it man. That's a.
- 46:11Great bet, so go for it. Finally, Darren.
- 46:14Fading the tree under 3 1/2 wins plus 100 just.
- 46:19One or a tree or Andrew. We got a bonus pick Preakness
- 46:25this weekend. Any thoughts guys?
- 46:27I got my pick up there. I've got Taj Mahal, ocelli
- 46:32talking and corona de Oro. That's my I'm taking the 12511.
- 46:36I'm going to box that for a super.
- 46:39I like Taj Mahal to win. Don't sleep on Incredible.
- 46:42Don't sleep on Incredible. Yeah, that horse got bump in the
- 46:45stretch. That course got bump in the
- 46:48stretch and he was coming, man. This this could be his place.
- 46:51So I don't know. We'll see.
- 46:53Maybe with the Mahal and talk and we got Jose and Irad Ortiz
- 46:56finishing one too. Again.
- 46:58Yeah. Yeah, that was fun to see.
- 46:59That was cool. Any thoughts?
- 47:02Darren. Yeah, I'm going with Napoleon
- 47:04Solo here. Only four races.
- 47:06First race at Saratoga, won a maiden special weight and went
- 47:10to Belmont. Won a Grade 1, 26 couple of 5th
- 47:13place finishes in some grade twos, but check out those
- 47:16workouts man 3 workouts. I like it at 48 flat and a six
- 47:20furlong work at 1:10. He was my second.
- 47:23I like it, I love it. No, I'm going with Napoleon,
- 47:26Solo all. Right should have called Ray, he
- 47:28would have had like 7 all. All we'd be here another hour if
- 47:31you went with Ray. We don't have another hour.
- 47:34We're. Good.
- 47:35All right, everybody. Thanks for listening.
- 47:38Thanks for watching on YouTube. Hope you enjoyed it.
- 47:40We'll be back. What's our next one, the PAC 12
- 47:42are we finally doing next week? I think we're doing the PAC 12.
- 47:48I think the PAC 12 numbers just came out.
- 47:50So anyway, thanks for watching, thanks for listening, and we
- 47:53will see you again next time.