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Andy Thaxton w/ I Dig History (From 2/8/23) · Tigs Bits Podcast

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Welcome to Tigs Bits. This week we have a first for
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the show. Since we have grown so much in
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the last year and gained so many new followers, I found it
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fitting to replay the show with my good buddy Andy Faxon of I
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Dig History. We had a blast doing it with all
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of the events that are unfolding currently in the world.
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I thought it would be a good time to revisit a fantastic
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episode with Andy talking about his service in the military,
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hunting civil War artifacts using his metal detector and we
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dive deep into that stuff and then just a whole lot more.
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We're going to be having him on the show again soon so we can
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kind of pick up where we left off.
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And I know that Jr. and Blasi, the one man posse, have some
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questions for him. Go check out his pages on
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YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and tick tock.
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It's I under score. Dig, under score history.
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Now that we've gotten all of that stuff out of the way.
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We paid a few bills here. Let's get into it.
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Can't believe it's been that long since we talked.
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Man, I tried to think we've probably, I'm guessing we saw
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each other at one point after like, I don't know, 2003,
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4:00-ish maybe. And then we haven't really
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talked or seen put it for sure since then.
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No, no, just keep up, you know, keep up with each other through
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social media, of course, which, yeah, I'll tell you, man, that's
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it. That is a nice thing that has
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happened. You know, there's a lot of, a
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lot of negatives with social media, as as we all know, but
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one of the one of the positives are things like that.
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I've watched you move and do all of your stuff and and your kids
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grow up and you know and and all of that.
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I don't feel like it's been 15 or 20 years since we've actually
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interacted with each other. I feel the same way.
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I feel like I'm still connected in some way to Brantley Salter
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somehow, you know, just absolutely you are and you
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always will be. So to kind of bring us up to
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speed, number one, let me tell everybody a little bit about
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you. Andy and I did graduate together
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sometime in the mid 90s. We will not get too specific on
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the year, but went to school in little floor in Louisiana for
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many, many years. The Black Cats, baby, you better
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believe it. Whenever we graduated, I went to
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LSU and Andy went to the Marines.
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I've had one question, and we'll just start there before we jump
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into some other things. What made you What made you
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decide to want to go join the Marines and thank you for your
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service? Well, I appreciate that, man.
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You're more than welcome. You know, looking back, I think
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it was just something I knew I always wanted to do.
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I can remember. I went to the recruiter very
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early, like I think when we're in the in the 11th grade and
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kind of signed up for the early program.
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But I don't remember ever thinking about doing anything
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different. I don't know how much I
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expressed that back then. I don't know how much I talked
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about it. I don't remember.
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But of course my dad was a Marine.
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He never really talked about it, but I think that probably played
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a lot into it. I just never thought about doing
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anything else. I think that was your answer
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back then. I mean, I'm pretty sure that I
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did that. We did ask.
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Like, Are you sure you want to go do this?
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Why do you want to? You know, it's what I want to
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do. OK.
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I think I remember just before you left that summer, we hung
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out at my sister's house. It's crazy.
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I hadn't even thought about that until right now.
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Yeah, it's funny how funny how it all comes flooding back.
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You're still serving correct. I'm still active duty.
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So I trend transitioned from the Marine Corps to the Navy.
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The Marine Corps sent me to school and I went to it, went to
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Texas AM, got my degree over there and commissioned into the
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Navy, out of the Marine Corps. So from the enlisted side of the
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Marine Corps to the officer side in the Navy.
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And it's it's been a few years now.
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It's it's all I've ever done wear uniform.
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It's all I know and I think it's probably coming to an end.
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Pretty soon. Maybe later this year, maybe
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next year. But retirements in the cards
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very soon for us, I think. Well, dude, I think you've
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earned it. You deserve it.
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And did I see that Y'all got an RV?
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Am I dreaming this? Yeah, Danny's always wanted a
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camper and we've I finally kind of worked out to work where we
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could get one and we've we've been trucking that thing.
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We're all around we're in Tennessee now.
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So we've been all over the Middle Tennessee, Western
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Tennessee State parks, and it's it's been fun.
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So yeah, we've got one now. Well then of course to really
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get to the meat and potatoes, what he and I are going to talk
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about, he forms, I dig history and has a YouTube channel and I
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don't think it just started overnight.
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Obviously you got into metal detecting.
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What got you started there? How did you get involved in and
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even starting? So my brother, actually, he's
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actually the metal detecting expert.
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So he got me starting. He's been detecting for, I don't
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know, long time, probably 30 years.
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I don't know. He's been doing it a long time.
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But he kept telling me you'll enjoy it.
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You'll enjoy. You'll love the history aspect
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of it and I finally got around to to trying it out a few years
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ago and and he was right and and I've just kind of bought into it
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you know fully much like I think you were with fishing there for
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a while. It's it's it's all I it's all I
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do right now. It's all it's all I think about.
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You know I want to go next. Where am I going to go?
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What am I going to find that kind of thing?
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That's right. It becomes an obsession.
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I I I get it. Totally, totally get it.
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And I still that once it once it's built into you, you don't,
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you don't lose that. I don't fish like I used to, but
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I'm still just as passionate about it.
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You were full sponsored, weren't you?
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I was, yeah. At one point in time.
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I was sponsored with Nitro bass boats and castaway rods and was
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real. I mean, I wasn't at the that
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professional touring level, but I was.
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I was close. I was close.
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And then Haley Haley was born in in 2003, and it's like diapers
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or tournament entries. You know.
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Yeah, priorities change. Yeah, I wouldn't win it a lot.
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So priorities change. Priorities change, but I
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wouldn't change it. You know I would, I really would
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wouldn't, wouldn't change a thing, get back on track here.
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So Darren kind of gets you get you into the metal detecting and
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all of that. Now I've known that you've
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always been a been a history buff.
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You always were and and and could see where where these
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artifacts and things would come along and and pique your
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interest. But where did that kind of get
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started? Like how did we go?
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How did we transition from Darren, you and Darren doing it,
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hobby learning to like where you're at now 24/7.
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It's on your mind, you're creating content, all of that.
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How did we How did we get to this point?
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Yeah, great. Great question, man.
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I think my wife wonders, wonders the same thing.
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I think it probably has to do with the Civil War.
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I've always been, you know, interested in the Civil War and
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to be in this is when I was down in South Louisiana, stationed in
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New Orleans at Belle Chase to be able to put in some research
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about where some of these smaller skirmishes were, not
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just the the big battle sites. You have to stay away from
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those. Those are all protected, but.
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You know troop campsites where where troops had moved through
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To be able to to do that and then go out to a a place that
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has no visible recognizable features that tells you this is
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the location. But to do the research and go
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out there and then actually find a piece of Civil War history, a
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bullet, a button, you know, a piece of a musket, whatever,
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that that sort of just really, really, you know?
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Brought it all together for me, knowing that this is real
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history that I'm looking at. I'm the first person to touch
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this thing in 150 plus years, and probably the last person
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that touched it was a member. Of either the Confederacy or the
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the the Union federal troops and they were the last person to
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touch it. So that's I get a kick out of
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that being down in in New Orleans specifically, you know
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one of one of the oldest cities settlements in in the South
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period, but certainly in Louisiana besides Natchitoches,
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the history around that area, you know the, the antebellum
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colonial history, it's all there the the early 1700s, late 1700
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history there. I mean, I've dug stuff from the
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1700s that's hard to believe, but wow.
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You know, that's just amazing to me.
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Oh, it totally is. It really, really is.
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It just, you know, that people are coming through these places,
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that skirmishes are happening and war and all of that, and
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it's just buried off in the woods somewhere.
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It's just right off the Interstate.
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Or you know, like can you Can you imagine going back and to
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whenever this happened and showing those people a picture
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of modern day today and where their battlefield is?
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Yeah, I mean, yeah, what would they think?
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Just what would they think? So I I've seen you have recently
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on your YouTube channel and please give all of your
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credentials of how to find your YouTube channel, your TikTok
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social medias. But I saw recently you've had
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had a had a couple of videos to explode because of some
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artifacts that you found. So tell us a little bit about.
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Them so pretty much it's the the channel is is consistent across
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the platforms it's just basically I dig history you can
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you can search for what's on YouTube or Instagram or TikTok
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Facebook as well but so the last one that took off was it wasn't
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very old of a relic so this was the old World War One soldiers
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dog tag. That I dug here in the local
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area the the western Tennessee area right.
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So no one was fighting World War One here but this was a soldiers
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dog tag that had come back from the war, had his name on it,
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could could get a little bit information about him and and
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the part I love to do is to is to take the stuff home and start
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getting a line and digging into the the history books and seeing
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if I can put the pieces of of the story together and so I was
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able to track this. This gentleman's family, you
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know, his lineage, who he was, got some, got some of the
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documents that had his name on it, his draft registration card,
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like some old census information found out about him, you know,
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basically his whole life. And he was actually buried here
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in the Memphis National Cemetery.
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And so I kind of put all of it together and then I actually
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went down and visited this guy's grave.
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There's a private in World War One and then so if you watch the
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the The Real or the Tick Tock, I put all that together and at the
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end I show it at the grave there.
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But that's if if I can tell the story of something, I find
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that's the ultimate, right Finding something is cool, but
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if I can tell something about the story, that's what that's
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where I'm at, right? It's it's it's just it's just
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cool to me. Oh yeah, that's the juice.
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Yeah, exactly. I mean it really is just to to
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find something to take the time and that's another thing.
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How do you to preserve some of these things that are encrusted
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and and dirt and things like that they have to.
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I would think that they would have to be pretty brittle and
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could break fairly easily. So that part of the hobby I
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guess is I've learned along the way is some of the the
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preservation aspects of some of these relics, everything from
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doing rust, electrolysis, removing the rust, using
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electricity on iron things specifically.
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So that's I got an electrolysis tank that I drop stuff in, I
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hook up the wires on it, leave it there for two or three days.
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But so that's another aspect of this is how to preserve some of
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these things You. You learn all about the
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chemicals to use and not to use, But you're absolutely right.
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Some of these things are, you know, if you're like you're
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talking 1700s, they're hanging on by a thread, you know, So
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especially like little small buttons or.
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Yeah. So yeah, that's that's another
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piece of it, which I enjoy that aspect as well.
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You know, cleaning up stuff and figuring out what's what Once I
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get home from the hunt kind of thing, you know, you never know.
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You may see something. I would think that would you're
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going to be this is just this is a cool button.
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Yeah. But then as you uncover it
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you're like this isn't just a button.
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Yeah. How deep, how deep are you
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having to dig to find some of these things or to find a lot of
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this stuff, especially like Civil War era things?
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So the the general rule is the older the deeper, right?
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Unless you're in a farm field that's that gets plowed a lot so
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you could find anything at surface level.
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My detector will go down and detect objects about 14 inches,
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1415 inches depending on the size of it.
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But. For instance, when when when my
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brother and I get to detect together a lot of times we'll
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just hunt farm fields, right? For you know, there was a battle
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there. There was a skirmish there and
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you really, you could find bullets.
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You could find buttons just laying almost on the surface
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that you know, your detector picks it up.
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And so you just kind of scratch the surface of it and it's just
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right there because it's been plowed up so many times.
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But one one instance, just talking about the the how it's
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interesting and tying the the history together.
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My brother and I were able to detect at.
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A battle site in sort of, I guess, central eastern
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Louisiana. But we did the the history of it
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and our great great grandfather very likely fought in that
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battle for the Confederacy and we were out.
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We were able to go out and find bullets of that battle.
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So that was a cool thing for both of us.
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We've hunted it several times and come back with some pretty
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cool relics. Wow, man.
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Yeah, that's the ultimate dude. That kind of gives me chills.
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That's Yeah, that is really, really, really cool.
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Where are you finding this stuff?
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So the I do right now I'm doing all of my hunting up here in in
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Tennessee only come down to Louisiana every now and then to
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hunt with Darren but down in in in South Louisiana.
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So mostly Saint Charles Parish, Saint James Parish, Saint John
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Parish, out kind of West of New Orleans, you know out that way.
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But. Along the River Rd. you have
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these old plantation sites and a lot of them are still there.
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You can see some of them, some of them are tourist attractions,
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but the the ones that you don't see are the ones that have have
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been lost to history. The plantation houses are long
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gone. All you see is a a sugar cane
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field and so that doing the research and finding out where
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those old plantation homes were that were there in the late
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1700s in a lot of cases. You just go out and you talk to
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the farmers and you say, hey, this is who I am.
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I'm interested in swinging my detector in your farm field.
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I'm happy to show you what I find.
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It's your stuff. You get first choice of whatever
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you want of it kind of thing. Some are interested, some could
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care less. Some will just say have fun.
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That kind of thing. The way you do the research is
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basically there's some, there's some warehouse sites on the
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Internet kind of old maps and you can get on these websites
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and and they're basically georectified like old
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topographic maps. Basically I can go in and scroll
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in and look at where old home sites back to the 1800s in some
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cases, so on some of these maps. And I can I can put my
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pinpointer right on for the old house used to be or where I
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think the front door in some cases of the old house used to
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be. And it'll give me a lat long of
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exactly where that was that I throw it into my GPS, my phone.
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I walk out in the field and it takes me right to where the
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front door of this plantation home was.
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And guess what that's where they dropped a lot of stuff coming
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out of the front of their house. So it's it's the kind of putting
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all the pieces together and that is incredible.
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Yeah. Holy cow man.
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So that's you're you're finding history, but you are 100% using
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some of the latest technology available to to find it along
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with along with just that old school metal detector that's
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been around for years. Absolutely.
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That's why I find it interesting is I know you're not just going
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somewhere getting lucky. You know, it takes the planning,
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the research, all of that to to go in, to be able to to find
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these things. Then you, you know, at least
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you've kind of shrunk it to where you can find maybe find
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the needle in the haystack. Yeah.
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So you're hunting. I mean, it's a true hunt.
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Oh, absolutely, Yeah. So the the old home sites, you
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know, you can do a lot of that with the old topographic maps.
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Some places you won't have as old of the map as you'd like,
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but for Civil War stuff, it's a little bit different, right.
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So you have to just read. You have to read about, hey,
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this regiment camped overnight near this river crossing or near
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this Creek. And then when you go out and you
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and you see what's there, it looks nothing like what was
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described in the 1860s. And so then you kind of really
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start having to think about where would troops come through
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at, where would they cross that, you know, so the Civil War is
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tricky. You you got to really think
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about where troops would move through.
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A lot of times the roads, the main roads, are the exact same
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place that they were that long ago.
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Some of the smaller roads have been created, but like main
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river roads and stuff like that, those are in the same places
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they were then. People don't change stuff,
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right? They just make it better.
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Totally makes sense as you know, coming back to home, how you can
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find all kinds of things along the Cane River throughout that
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whole area around Nakava, any sabbing parish.
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You're just all throughout there.
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I mean, there's so much stuff where we grew up that it's it's
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crazy that we didn't kind of get into this stuff when we were in
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high school. I know.
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I think about that, yeah. I guess we were just doing too
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many other things. Darren and I got a chance to do
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some detecting up around the Fort Jessup area.
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So obviously Fort Jessup, that was an actual old Fort.
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So there's some, there are some properties you can't obviously
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you can't detect there in the park.
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That's a protected area and that's that's another thing
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about this hobby. Folks think you, you know,
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sometimes you're going into some of these protected areas.
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That's that's a no, no, we we don't go into those places at
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all properties around around the Fort, right.
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People let us hunt their land and some of the coolest things
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that Darren and I have found, I think just because it was so
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close to where we grew up, have been right there in the Fort
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Jessup area and and we're talking the early 1800s, right.
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So, wow, some military stuff, some coins.
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So that's the that's the cool stuff, it's it was close to
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home. We were always in that area and
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just to know it was always in the ground there, that is nuts.
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And you know, you just go along Hwy. 6 and you pass that sign,
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Fort Jessup State Park. You know, another piece there,
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and this is just taking you back to the Sabine Parish, the
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neighborhood there, the Highway 6.
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I don't know if you've seen these signs.
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You probably have, but that's the old El Camino real the Kings
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Highway that traveled basically between the Nakatish St.
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John Baptist. Fort over there the Natchitoches
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area and that went all the way into East Texas and over in
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parts of of Central Texas. So that's El Camino Real that
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just means the Kings Highway and that's where where traffic came
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through there. So if you travel Hwy. 6 you're
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going down where where where some very famous people have
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traveled through that area and and one of the coolest things
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that that we found Darren actually dug it and it's it's
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it's not that of a rare of a fine but the where he found it
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we know it where it came from. It was right in front of mom and
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dad's house, so we know it was right on that trail.
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And this was an 1830s seated Liberty dime, a very worn and it
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had a hole in it. So we know it was worn as a
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necklace. But he found it right is like 12
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inches down, right out there in the corner of our of their yard.
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And we know that that came from the the traffic that was
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traveling this trail back and forth, just sitting out there
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all those years. Wow, that's so amazing.
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And. All the the road constructions,
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the, you know, widening of the lanes and all of that, that that
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it would still be there, that untouched most likely hadn't
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been touched since it dropped on the ground that day, right?
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That's just. I mean it it really it, it
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really is. Just interesting, beyond
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interesting. But how it can tell a story and
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it can just make you think it. You have to link it back to this
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and that and that and it's yeah, I mean it was a wagon trail.
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You know it was nothing more than probably A2 lane to A2
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wheel wagon trail through there. But that was considered a main
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thoroughfare at that point. You know horses and buggies
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could go through there. So that's where they travel
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through, right. I don't know if you can see
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right up above me here this, that's a a grouping of
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plantation tokens right after the Civil War.
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So during basically reconstruction when slaves were
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turned into basically paid employees, right for for the
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most part plantations would turn around instead of paying in an
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actual legal tender. The plantation stores, the
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commissaries that they had on the plantations, they would
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basically make these brass tokens with denominations on
21:46
them. And so it was a closed system, a
21:48
rig system that, you know, it wasn't fair or whatever, but
21:50
this is what they did. So they, they made these tokens
21:52
and they paid these now now paid workers, former slaves, they
21:56
paid them with these plantation tokens to go use back at the own
22:00
plantation store to buy their bread or tobacco or meat or
22:02
whatever. But that that whole case right
22:04
there I found basically someone had either buried them all
22:08
together or someone lost them all together because they were
22:11
all together. And so it's a it's an
22:13
interesting, probably one of the more interesting as far as the
22:17
historical aspect of it, you know to being able kind of put
22:19
the the the South Louisiana story together and you know just
22:24
being able to tell like this was actually used and for this
22:27
purpose. And you know, there's there's
22:29
there's stuff on there. You can turn it in for a loaf of
22:32
bread or a pound of meat, some of the tokens say, But but you
22:37
know, that's just another way of telling the story.
22:39
I didn't realize that they had a currency, even even like that.
22:43
A token, what it whatever. I didn't realize that that even
22:46
existed. That's neat.
22:47
And that happened. That stuff was happening all
22:49
around us, where we grew up. Yes, it was.
22:53
I don't feel like we've learned as much about it as as we should
22:56
have. That's a great point.
22:58
That's the absolutely great I'm. Not knocking anybody or anything
23:01
but. Somebody should have been
23:03
rolling around the parish showing stuff like this to get
23:07
folks interested in, just to know where we're from and what's
23:12
happening and all. We just thought the Free State
23:14
Festival was just for carnivals and fun.
23:17
Raymond Goodman. But it was not.
23:19
It was for oh man. Sack race and all of that stuff.
23:28
You need to go dig around flooring high school.
23:30
There's no telling what you may find.
23:32
Did we actually bury a time capsule in Dr. Decker's class?
23:35
Did I just dreamed that or did we do that?
23:37
It's still got to be there. I've all.
23:39
I've thought about that many times.
23:41
We're getting off the rails here in collectibles, so tell me
23:45
about some some more of these other things that are behind
23:48
you. I see the the coins.
23:49
What's something else? That most of the stuff behind me
23:52
here is Civil War stuff. You see that?
23:55
So that's basically that's pirate treasure that's from the
23:58
early 1700s. That's a hammered silver Spanish
24:02
coin. It's it's got the cross on it.
24:04
I think I forgot which king it was.
24:06
But these were basically little little chips off a piece of
24:10
silver. It would just kind of knock a
24:12
little chip of it off and they would stamp it on and that's
24:15
what their coins were. When people think about pirate
24:17
treasure, they think about these.
24:19
These are called cobs, but that's probably the oldest
24:21
silver coin I have early 1700. I actually have two of them.
24:24
A lot of people ask what's the most expensive thing that I've
24:27
dug? What's the most valuable?
24:29
I dug something that's worth well over worth $10,000, well
24:32
over $10,000. What was that?
24:36
It's it's it's a coin ish type of thing, I'll tell you that.
24:40
What would you do when you found this item?
24:42
What would you do? I'll tell you that it's it's in
24:46
one of my videos. Then you.
24:48
Gotta go watch them all and figure it out.
24:49
I flipped out. I mean, like when I find this
24:51
stuff, I get real excited and you know, couldn't believe what
24:54
I just found. Kind of thing.
24:55
Let me ask you this. Will you ever sell it?
24:58
That's a possibility, yeah. I rarely sell things.
25:00
I've done it a few times. Mostly it's the modern stuff
25:04
that I find like a modern gold ring or a modern silver ring.
25:08
I have no interest in keeping that kind of stuff and it can go
25:11
back into the the hobby of for the next hunt for whatever.
25:14
But so I yes, I've sold some some jewelry type stuff.
25:18
Yeah, I mean, I would, I would think over overtime you would
25:21
collect enough stuff and some of those things like you just
25:24
mentioned, you know, it's like those are a dime a dozen for
25:26
you. Yeah.
25:27
It's not, you know, you found that kind of stuff.
25:30
So make a little money to support the habit.
25:32
There's nothing wrong, nothing wrong with that.
25:34
There you go. Support the habit.
25:36
I like that. What are your plans kind of in
25:38
the future without giving too much away?
25:41
Well, it's you know, it's kind of like your secret fishing
25:43
hole. You just got to kind of be
25:44
careful about what you say you're where you're going.
25:46
Other people will show up if you start talking too much.
25:49
I mean it's just a matter I've proven that's the case.
25:52
But I'm always on the hunt for places to the tig.
25:55
I I actually, I took work off tomorrow.
25:58
So I took a day of leave tomorrow and I'm going down to a
26:00
place on the Arkansas side of the river.
26:03
I've got some some big expectations for an old
26:06
community down there that's no longer there.
26:08
It's gone completely. It's a ghost town.
26:10
You drive by and it's just farm fields, but oh wow, it's an old
26:13
plantation. There used to be a store in two
26:16
churches and a commissary and I'm looking forward to seeing
26:18
what's there. Now, do you go on some of these
26:22
occasionally and not find a single thing?
26:24
Yeah, it happens. I've gotten pretty good though
26:28
as far as knowing kind of what I'll find or what I expect to
26:30
find. The problem, to be honest, is
26:32
it's becoming harder to find places that have not been
26:35
detected before. This hobby is growing like crazy
26:38
and people you know have the same ideas that I have and I try
26:42
to do that that really, really really indepth research.
26:45
But somebody else probably has done it already.
26:48
But I'm pretty good about thinking or, you know, knowing
26:51
what to expect to find. But yes, there are times when
26:54
I'll come home and Daniel asked me if, you know, what did I
26:57
find? And I'll just kind of shake my
26:59
head and walk slowly up to my bedroom and close the door and
27:02
be sad for a while. Right.
27:05
Sure. I understand.
27:06
It's like go like a day on the water and you just didn't catch
27:09
anything. It just wasn't your day.
27:10
You know, those those days, they happen.
27:12
Well, Andy, it's good seeing you and visiting with you again.
27:15
We don't need to be strangers. We need to do this again.
27:21
We're going to keep watching your channel and go go to I Dig
27:24
History, go to his YouTube, his tick tock, everywhere you can.
27:28
You can see them and you are going to see some some
27:30
fascinating things if this is what you're into and if you're
27:33
listening to this at this point, this is what you're into.
27:36
So so go and check it out because Andy's one of the best.
27:40
Well, the best that I've seen, I did do a little research and a
27:43
little due diligence to see some other channels that do similar,
27:47
similar things and I'm like, my boy Andy's killing it.
27:51
That's it. That's why you're getting the
27:53
attention that you're getting on there and getting the likes and
27:56
the shares and all of that stuff, because you do a great
27:59
job. I appreciate that.
28:01
Thanks for having me. I told you about my my caveat
28:04
coming into this was, I don't know what your audience is going
28:06
to think, but I appreciate you having me nonetheless to kind of
28:08
geek out for you for a few minutes on my hobby.
28:10
But you look, Goodman, you sound good.
28:13
I'm proud of what you've done. Just just happy to talk to you
28:16
again, man.