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Ultimate Steelers Draft (1970's-80's) · Pittsburgh Sports Memories

0:00
SPEAKER_06: Hi, everybody.
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SPEAKER_06: Welcome to the Pittsburgh Sports Memories Podcast.
0:03
SPEAKER_06: We're going to do something a little different this time.
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SPEAKER_06: We're joined by a special guest, Stevie Fleife from the Final Score podcast.
0:11
SPEAKER_06: Hi, Stevie.
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SPEAKER_02: What's up, guys?
0:13
SPEAKER_02: How y'all doing?
0:15
SPEAKER_06: Good.
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SPEAKER_06: And we're also, as always, joined by our co-host, uh Steve Wirt.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
0:22
SPEAKER_01: I'm here.
0:23
SPEAKER_06: Steve.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm ready for this.
0:25
SPEAKER_01: I'm ready.
0:27
SPEAKER_01: I'm the worst general manager ever in the history of anything.
0:31
SPEAKER_01: So it should be interesting.
0:48
SPEAKER_06: So, what the three of us are going to do here is we're going to do an ultimate Steelers draft where we are going to draft, each of us are going to draft a full 22-man team of Steelers players from the 70s and 80s.
1:03
SPEAKER_06: And then you'll be able to flip over to the final score podcast for a different episode, in which the three of us are going to do the same thing, but we're going to pick players from the 90s to present.
1:14
SPEAKER_06: So that's how this is going to work.
1:16
SPEAKER_06: And for the 70s and 80s draft, I get the first pick.
1:21
SPEAKER_06: So with the 101, I could go a couple different ways here.
1:25
SPEAKER_06: Joe Green would be a pretty obvious choice.
1:28
SPEAKER_06: But given the field of guys uh available, I really feel like I've got to get my quarterback here.
1:36
SPEAKER_06: What?
1:37
SPEAKER_06: I'm taking Terry Bradshaw as my first pick.
1:40
SPEAKER_01: Sweet.
1:41
SPEAKER_01: From Louisiana Tech, huh?
1:42
SPEAKER_06: From Louisiana Tech.
1:44
SPEAKER_01: You should have taken his uh backup, the Duck Dynasty guy, Phil Robertson.
1:48
SPEAKER_02: Phil Robertson, yeah.
1:50
SPEAKER_02: No, actually, if I heard correct, Phil was uh when they first got out there, actually was the uh the starter, yeah.
2:01
SPEAKER_02: So I think Phil graduated before Bradshaw really hitting big time there.
2:05
SPEAKER_02: But uh geez.
2:08
SPEAKER_02: So uh I get a second pick, right?
2:11
SPEAKER_02: So I and and that's this is gonna be really so we're going 70s and 80s.
2:17
SPEAKER_02: Uh and I want to get nah, I'm gonna I'm gonna get I'll get the run running back off the board.
2:24
SPEAKER_02: Uh I'm gonna go Franco.
2:26
SPEAKER_06: That's a good pick.
2:28
SPEAKER_06: All right, Steve, you get two now.
2:30
SPEAKER_06: We're gonna we're doing this fantasy football style.
2:32
SPEAKER_01: I think with that pick, Stevie, Stevie gets the uh, what's it called, the statue from the airport.
2:38
SPEAKER_04: Heck yeah.
2:38
SPEAKER_04: I'll take it.
2:41
SPEAKER_01: Um since since none of you guys know what you're doing, you know guys know what you're doing.
2:47
SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm taking Joe Green.
2:48
SPEAKER_01: Fine.
2:49
SPEAKER_01: Fine.
2:50
SPEAKER_01: Leave me a Hall of Fame defensive lineman.
2:53
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I can't believe he lasted that long, actually.
2:55
SPEAKER_01: He he's pretty mean.
2:57
SPEAKER_01: I I heard I he's out of the small school in Texas, you know, but I hear good things.
3:01
SPEAKER_01: I hear good things.
3:02
SPEAKER_02: He'd give you the shirt off his back, too.
3:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
3:05
SPEAKER_01: I mean, all you gotta do is give him a cope.
3:07
SPEAKER_01: A cope.
3:10
SPEAKER_01: That's that's my Mel Mel, what's it, Mel Kuiper?
3:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
3:14
SPEAKER_01: He is great, he's out of this world.
3:16
SPEAKER_01: Um, okay, so I'm from uh it's my pick again, huh?
3:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
3:20
SPEAKER_01: All right.
3:21
SPEAKER_01: Uh who do I want to pick?
3:27
SPEAKER_01: I guess I'll go offense as I did a defense.
3:30
SPEAKER_01: Who's the best offensive guy left?
3:33
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna say that's John Stalworth.
3:36
SPEAKER_01: Uh uh, what's it called?
3:39
SPEAKER_01: Wide receiver.
3:41
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
3:41
SPEAKER_06: Okay, interesting.
3:43
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
3:44
SPEAKER_02: So my pick.
3:47
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna go with a linebacker.
3:49
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna my favorite sailor of all time.
3:52
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna go Jack Hamm.
3:53
SPEAKER_06: Oh, that's exactly who I would have picked.
3:56
SPEAKER_06: Good pick.
3:57
SPEAKER_06: Really good pick.
3:58
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
3:59
SPEAKER_06: Um, yeah, I feel like I definitely, if I have Terry as my number one pick, I've really got to go defense here.
4:06
SPEAKER_06: So I'm gonna I'm gonna load up on defense.
4:08
SPEAKER_06: Since since Ham's gone, I'm taking Lambert.
4:12
SPEAKER_06: And then uh I need to be able to defend against your guys' offense.
4:16
SPEAKER_06: So I've got to take Mel Blunt as my cornerback.
4:20
SPEAKER_02: All right.
4:21
SPEAKER_02: Hmm.
4:22
SPEAKER_02: So before Steve robs the big quarterback room in here, I've got I've got it.
4:30
SPEAKER_02: This is bad.
4:30
SPEAKER_02: I've got to either pick.
4:31
SPEAKER_02: I've got to pick between Mark Malone, Cliff Stout, Bubby Brister.
4:37
SPEAKER_02: Uh is there anyone else left in there?
4:41
SPEAKER_02: O'Donnell didn't come till the 90s, so.
4:44
SPEAKER_06: Terry Hanrady.
4:45
SPEAKER_02: Terry Hanrady, yeah.
4:46
SPEAKER_02: I forgot about him.
4:48
SPEAKER_06: Mike Rushek, the guy that replaced Bradshaw that one year for a couple of years.
4:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the rookie.
4:53
SPEAKER_02: Um I'll go ahead and get out of the way.
4:56
SPEAKER_02: I'll go Bubby.
4:57
SPEAKER_02: Bubby Brister.
4:59
SPEAKER_06: Well, the good news for you, Steve, is you can sit on quarterback now until like the end of the draft.
5:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
5:06
SPEAKER_01: Well, the guy I have ranked pretty highly, too.
5:09
SPEAKER_01: He'll be there.
5:10
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
5:10
SPEAKER_01: Well, yeah, we mean he's not going anywhere.
5:14
SPEAKER_06: We can't take another quarterback, so literally you can you can sit on that as long as you want.
5:18
SPEAKER_01: That's your choice of quarterback.
5:19
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
5:20
SPEAKER_01: Um, I'm gonna take uh Rod Woodson.
5:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
5:26
SPEAKER_01: I wanted to do Rod Woodson and Mel Blunt, but Tim beat me to the punch.
5:31
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
5:32
SPEAKER_06: That would have been undefendable.
5:34
SPEAKER_06: Literally.
5:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
5:37
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
5:38
SPEAKER_02: So you got another pick.
5:40
SPEAKER_01: Um let's do Landy.
5:42
SPEAKER_01: I'll I'll do the smart guy in the room, Andy Russell, because I don't have any linebackers.
5:47
SPEAKER_01: He was like super smart, right?
5:49
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
5:50
SPEAKER_01: There you go.
5:51
SPEAKER_01: I got my quarterback on my defense.
5:53
SPEAKER_01: No quarterback on offense, but I guess I got a quarterback on defense.
5:57
SPEAKER_02: Start on the offensive line, and I gotta go with Mike Webster and get him out of there before you guys pick him up.
6:05
SPEAKER_06: Solid pick there.
6:07
SPEAKER_06: Definitely anchoring that offensive line.
6:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
6:10
SPEAKER_02: I mean, when you hear Steele's offensive line, that's gotta be the first guy you think of.
6:15
SPEAKER_06: Yep.
6:16
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
6:17
SPEAKER_06: Alright, I'm going back to offense.
6:19
SPEAKER_06: I mean, Lin Swan's still there, so I feel like that's that's a must, especially if I've got Bradshaw throwing him the ball.
6:26
SPEAKER_06: And then I don't have a running back.
6:30
SPEAKER_06: Oh, do I wait for that and hope you guys go to other positions or do I try to grab that now?
6:37
SPEAKER_01: Tim is on the clock.
6:39
SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna take LC Greenwood because I just I have nothing on the defensive line right now.
6:46
SPEAKER_06: And he's definitely the best guy available now that Joe Joe Green's gone.
6:50
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
6:52
SPEAKER_02: I've got to pick up.
6:55
SPEAKER_02: Alright.
6:56
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna go wide receiver since that's getting kind of thin.
6:59
SPEAKER_02: I'm going Louis Lips.
7:01
SPEAKER_01: That's a good pick, yeah.
7:02
SPEAKER_06: I was hoping to steal him later.
7:05
SPEAKER_06: He's he's one of those guys that we always said if he was in the league ten years earlier or ten years later, he would have been like Hall of Fame caliber.
7:14
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
7:16
SPEAKER_02: Who did he go to after he left Pittsburgh?
7:18
SPEAKER_02: Did he go to Chicago?
7:19
SPEAKER_06: I think it was the Saints.
7:21
SPEAKER_02: The Saints, yes, right.
7:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
7:24
SPEAKER_02: And he just disappeared after that.
7:28
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna uh go with um I'll go with Dwight White.
7:33
SPEAKER_01: Ah fun fact, he scored the first points in Steelers history in the Super Bowl.
7:39
SPEAKER_01: Yep, safety.
7:41
SPEAKER_06: That's a good trivia question.
7:44
SPEAKER_01: No, I told you that.
7:45
SPEAKER_01: I think I I think I said that story there.
7:47
SPEAKER_01: Just Stan Savern was sitting there interviewing him once.
7:51
SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't know, it was an event or something, and he was like, Who scored the first points in Super Bowl history?
7:56
SPEAKER_01: And he's like literally sitting in Dwight White's like Franco, Terry.
7:59
SPEAKER_01: It's like Dwight White didn't even know he did that.
8:03
SPEAKER_01: After he had just got out of the hospital.
8:06
SPEAKER_01: That's right.
8:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
8:08
SPEAKER_01: All right.
8:09
SPEAKER_01: Is it my turn again?
8:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you've got one more.
8:12
SPEAKER_01: All right.
8:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
8:15
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna I haven't picked any offensive linemen, so I'll go with Dermani Dawson.
8:21
SPEAKER_06: That's a good pick.
8:22
SPEAKER_01: It's a real drop-off after those two.
8:27
SPEAKER_02: You got some you got some decent ones there, but it's just I mean, not as well known as as those two.
8:37
SPEAKER_02: All right, so got an option.
8:41
SPEAKER_02: Well, I need to get some.
8:42
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna go Donnie Schill.
8:45
SPEAKER_06: Yep, that's a good one too.
8:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I I had the privilege of of interviewing him uh on the show.
8:52
SPEAKER_02: That was that was kind of surreal when you're sitting at work and you look at your phone and and there's a you you got a voicemail and it said, Hey, Stevie, Donnie Schill here.
9:02
SPEAKER_02: Want to know when you want to schedule this interview.
9:04
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, holy crap.
9:07
SPEAKER_04: That's pretty awesome.
9:09
SPEAKER_02: And it's a shame it took him so long to get in the Hall of Fame, but yeah, very deserving to be in the Hall of Fame.
9:16
SPEAKER_06: Yes, for sure.
9:17
SPEAKER_06: Very cool you got to talk to him.
9:20
SPEAKER_06: All right, so I didn't take running back last time.
9:24
SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna take it now.
9:24
SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna take Rocky Blyer as one of my running backs.
9:30
SPEAKER_06: Tempted to take a second one, but I have enough options.
9:33
SPEAKER_06: I think I can leave that open.
9:35
SPEAKER_06: Um, I don't have any offensive lineman.
9:38
SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna take Tunch.
9:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
9:42
SPEAKER_01: Solid pick.
9:43
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
9:43
SPEAKER_06: Tunch was a good, not only a good player, but a great guy.
9:46
SPEAKER_06: He'll be a great team leader, locker room guy on my squad.
9:51
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
9:52
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna uh I'm gonna go to the offensive line and I'm gonna take uh uh another guy I got I was very fortunate to be able to interview.
10:01
SPEAKER_02: Um just passed away recently.
10:03
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna take I'm gonna take Craig Woofley.
10:06
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
10:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
10:08
SPEAKER_02: Oh gosh, he was so great.
10:10
SPEAKER_02: I mean, he he was gave me one of the best compliments I I ever got as of my podcast because he told me he told me when he when we set it up, he said, I I could do like 20, 25 minutes.
10:23
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, gosh, 25 minutes.
10:25
SPEAKER_02: I that ain't gonna be I said okay, I'll take what I can get, but we ended up going over an hour.
10:30
SPEAKER_02: And I said, Oh, I'm sorry, Mr.
10:31
SPEAKER_02: Wolfley.
10:32
SPEAKER_02: We we really uh we really tore that 20 minutes up, and he was like, Well, he said, I did that in case you know you didn't know what you were talking about.
10:41
SPEAKER_02: And he said, That was my way out.
10:45
SPEAKER_02: He said, but yeah, after about five minutes, he said, I knew you knew what you were talking about, and I was ready to talk then.
10:50
SPEAKER_02: I was like, Thank you, thank you, thank you.
10:53
SPEAKER_02: He was awesome though.
10:55
SPEAKER_02: Very cool.
10:56
SPEAKER_02: All right, so Steve, it's my turn.
10:59
SPEAKER_01: All right, all right.
11:01
SPEAKER_01: Um well, I don't have any running backs, and I don't have any quarterbacks, so that's uh Dermani Dawson is not snapping the ball to anyone right now.
11:12
SPEAKER_02: It's kind of like the Steelers of today.
11:14
SPEAKER_02: You don't have to work back.
11:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
11:20
SPEAKER_01: So uh I'll go with uh Barry Foster.
11:22
SPEAKER_01: There you go.
11:23
SPEAKER_01: Oh wow.
11:25
SPEAKER_06: All right, yeah, he's a he's a late, late, late for this era, but he's in there.
11:30
SPEAKER_01: 89.
11:31
SPEAKER_01: I I won't hold it against him for, like I said, letting that ball bounce over his head.
11:35
SPEAKER_02: These are nice one of the bonehead plays in Staler history right there.
11:43
SPEAKER_01: Uh I got the next pick, too.
11:46
SPEAKER_01: Um should I take here?
11:49
SPEAKER_01: Uh I guess I'll go back to the uh well, why not?
11:56
SPEAKER_01: Why not go get another linebacker out of the way?
11:59
SPEAKER_01: Um I got here.
12:03
SPEAKER_01: Uh how about Hardy Har Har Nickerson?
12:06
SPEAKER_02: Hardy Nickerson.
12:07
SPEAKER_06: That's a good one.
12:07
SPEAKER_06: Uh underrated guy, Hardy Nickerson.
12:09
SPEAKER_02: I hated to see him leave.
12:11
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
12:13
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, he was really good too.
12:15
SPEAKER_06: Um he went to Tampa.
12:17
SPEAKER_06: Tampa.
12:18
SPEAKER_06: Tampa and played.
12:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
12:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
12:21
SPEAKER_01: That was when Tampa still kind of stunk.
12:24
SPEAKER_05: But he was really good.
12:26
SPEAKER_02: They were still wearing the creamsicle stuff in, too.
12:28
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
12:29
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
12:31
SPEAKER_02: Oh gosh.
12:32
SPEAKER_02: Let me see here.
12:34
SPEAKER_02: Star Wars gone, Swan's gone.
12:36
SPEAKER_02: Took Louis Lips, so I think I'm good right now for.
12:41
SPEAKER_02: Um let's go.
12:44
SPEAKER_02: I'll give my linebacker.
12:46
SPEAKER_02: Andy Russell's gone, Nickerson's gone.
12:49
SPEAKER_02: And Lloyd is available, right?
12:52
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
12:53
SPEAKER_06: He started in 87, so we're counting.
12:57
SPEAKER_06: Avoid Lloyd.
12:58
SPEAKER_06: Good pick.
13:00
SPEAKER_06: Alright, well, if we're doing a run on linebackers, I better grab somebody.
13:05
SPEAKER_06: I'm actually gonna take uh Mike Merriweather.
13:09
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
13:09
SPEAKER_06: That's a that's another guy that stunk to see him go.
13:13
SPEAKER_06: And I don't think people remember how really good he was.
13:15
SPEAKER_06: He was so versatile.
13:16
SPEAKER_06: He was like one of those guys that could play the pass, he could stop the run.
13:20
SPEAKER_06: He was just really, really versatile linebacker.
13:24
SPEAKER_02: Definitely, definitely hated to see him go.
13:28
SPEAKER_06: And then I'm gonna take Ernie Holmes on the line, on the defensive line.
13:33
SPEAKER_06: I think he his career with the Stewarters wasn't quite as long.
13:38
SPEAKER_06: Uh kind of like Meriwether, but it was but he was good.
13:43
SPEAKER_06: So that's gonna I'm gonna add him with green one on my defensive line.
13:48
SPEAKER_02: Defensive line is running kind of slack now, too.
13:51
SPEAKER_02: Um I'm gonna take Banazak.
13:54
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna defensive line.
13:56
SPEAKER_06: Good pick.
13:56
SPEAKER_06: That's I I think it was between Holmes and Banazak.
13:59
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, we'll take him.
14:02
SPEAKER_01: Uh sure.
14:05
SPEAKER_01: Uh we'll go um who's left?
14:09
SPEAKER_01: Jeez.
14:09
SPEAKER_01: Uh let's go.
14:10
SPEAKER_01: Hey, diddle diddle, David Little up the middle, I guess.
14:13
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
14:15
SPEAKER_06: Another guy that I I actually thought about him too.
14:17
SPEAKER_06: It's another guy that um if we would have played ten years earlier or ten years later, would have people more people would remember.
14:25
SPEAKER_02: Him and uh I I hate to bring up Elf because it might get you out of pick, but Hinkle, Brian Hinkle.
14:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
14:32
SPEAKER_02: Those, I mean, those guys didn't didn't get a lot of attention, but they were really good linebackers.
14:37
SPEAKER_06: They they were.
14:38
SPEAKER_06: They were really good.
14:39
SPEAKER_01: You really you really can't go wrong with Steeler linebackers.
14:42
SPEAKER_01: Like you're gonna get at least a good one, maybe a Hall of Famer.
14:47
SPEAKER_01: Um I'm gonna I guess I'll just finish up my defensive line since I'm like obviously very lacking on offense.
14:55
SPEAKER_01: Anyway, my offense is gonna stink.
14:58
SPEAKER_01: Uh I'm gonna go with um who do I have rated highest here?
15:02
SPEAKER_01: Uh well, I don't know.
15:04
SPEAKER_01: It's between I'll go with Steve Furness.
15:10
SPEAKER_01: Defensive lineman.
15:11
SPEAKER_06: That's a good one.
15:13
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
15:14
SPEAKER_01: So that's yeah, I don't have to worry about defensive linemen anymore.
15:18
SPEAKER_01: And I I did have Edmund Nelson, the uh state farm agent.
15:22
SPEAKER_01: and
15:29
SPEAKER_02: Um let's see.
15:33
SPEAKER_02: Running back, wide receiver, tight end.
15:36
SPEAKER_02: Let's see.
15:37
SPEAKER_02: I'll tell you what.
15:39
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna go tight end, I'm gonna go Eric Green.
15:43
SPEAKER_02: Oh, there you go.
15:44
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
15:45
SPEAKER_06: All right.
15:45
SPEAKER_06: Um uh I'm gonna go back to the offensive line.
15:48
SPEAKER_06: I need I need somebody to snap the ball.
15:50
SPEAKER_06: Dawson and Webster are gone, so I'm going uh Ray Mansfield.
15:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I is he good.
15:58
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
15:58
SPEAKER_02: I mean well he was there, he was the center right before Webster, right?
16:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and he did they did they win a Super Bowl with him?
16:05
SPEAKER_06: Yes.
16:06
SPEAKER_06: Yeah he was still he was still there when they won they won their first two Super Bowls, I believe.
16:13
SPEAKER_06: He was on both of those teams.
16:15
SPEAKER_01: Because Webster was this part of the 74 draft.
16:19
SPEAKER_06: Correct.
16:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Webster was like doing special teams.
16:23
SPEAKER_02: Um which I mean I think he kept on doing that after he even after he became the starter, but yeah, he was he was doing special teams, those first two Super Bowls.
16:33
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, Mansfield's a two-time all-pro.
16:36
SPEAKER_06: He's in the Stewart's Hall of Honor.
16:37
SPEAKER_06: So I mean that's he's solid, yeah.
16:39
SPEAKER_00: He's a solid player.
16:40
SPEAKER_06: I mean, he he's he's definitely a rung behind your two guys, but I'll I'll take him.
16:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
16:46
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
16:46
SPEAKER_06: I'll take him on my team.
16:48
SPEAKER_06: Okay, so that was one pick.
16:49
SPEAKER_06: I still have another one, right?
16:51
SPEAKER_02: Right.
16:54
SPEAKER_06: Hmm.
16:56
SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna take Merrill Hodge.
16:59
SPEAKER_06: I need I need I need like a clutch playoff performer.
17:03
SPEAKER_06: He I think he would pair nicely.
17:05
SPEAKER_06: I have Rocky Blyer.
17:06
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
17:06
SPEAKER_06: So I kind of feel like those two would pair nicely together.
17:10
SPEAKER_06: So I'm taking Merrill.
17:12
SPEAKER_02: You're not gonna believe that was who I was just getting ready to take, too.
17:14
SPEAKER_05: So nice.
17:16
SPEAKER_02: Nice pick.
17:17
SPEAKER_02: Nice pick.
17:19
SPEAKER_02: Um offensive line.
17:24
SPEAKER_02: I'll tell you what, I'm gonna go John Colb.
17:28
SPEAKER_06: He uh he spoke of my church, my old church, a couple times.
17:31
SPEAKER_06: He was uh he was he had a great story one about um about how he almost got Terry Bradshaw killed riding on a horse and he thought Chuck Noah was gonna cut him.
17:43
SPEAKER_02: I I just remember him and uh him and Webster kind of looked like on the field, they kind of looked like twins because they had the huge arms and everything, and and the they always wore short sleeves.
17:55
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, as a kid, I was like, those guys are crazy.
17:58
SPEAKER_02: And even and now as an adult, I'm thinking, yeah, those guys are crazy because I wouldn't do it anytime.
18:05
unknown: Yep.
18:06
SPEAKER_01: Alright, I got two picks.
18:08
SPEAKER_01: All right, uh, let's see.
18:12
SPEAKER_01: Uh I'm gonna take uh Moon Mullins.
18:16
SPEAKER_06: Oh, that's good.
18:16
SPEAKER_06: I was thinking about him.
18:18
SPEAKER_01: And uh I guess I'll take Walter Abercrombie.
18:23
SPEAKER_01: Oof Walter Ambercrombie.
18:28
SPEAKER_01: From the Abercrombie and Fitch stores.
18:31
SPEAKER_06: Good luck with that.
18:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
18:33
SPEAKER_02: Well, you could have taken uh take another offense.
18:36
SPEAKER_02: I needed a running back.
18:38
SPEAKER_02: You remember what was his name?
18:40
SPEAKER_02: The uh the guy that was running back about the time Abercrombie was there, Earhart.
18:45
SPEAKER_02: There's Pollard, Frank Paul, yeah, or Thornton.
18:50
SPEAKER_02: There's Thornton.
18:51
SPEAKER_02: Sidney Thornton, that's who you're thinking of, yeah.
18:52
SPEAKER_02: Sidney Thornton, that was the guy with uh Witch Doctor.
18:55
SPEAKER_02: Um Rich Ehrenberg, that's one I'm thinking.
18:59
SPEAKER_06: I know Rich Ehrenberg.
19:00
SPEAKER_06: Wasn't he mostly like a kick returner?
19:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but he would come in like uh third down back sometimes.
19:06
SPEAKER_02: Okay, okay.
19:06
SPEAKER_02: I remember he was I forgot who they were playing.
19:08
SPEAKER_02: I don't know why.
19:09
SPEAKER_02: I've got weird recollection of stuff.
19:12
SPEAKER_02: Uh Ehrenberg got his nose broke against somebody one day.
19:15
SPEAKER_02: I remember the next week he'd come out with the tape and everything.
19:17
SPEAKER_02: That was the first time I'd seen somebody get the effects of a broken nose.
19:23
SPEAKER_02: I always remember that for some freaking reason.
19:26
SPEAKER_02: Um all right, so running back, running back.
19:30
SPEAKER_02: I need one more of those.
19:32
SPEAKER_02: Hmm.
19:33
SPEAKER_02: Gosh, and I just have one on my mind too.
19:37
SPEAKER_02: What Narenberg.
19:38
SPEAKER_02: Oh, Frank Pollard.
19:40
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that's that's what I figured you would take.
19:43
SPEAKER_06: Because I mean he he had his mom, he not a lot of moments, but he definitely had his moments, especially that one year they made the championship game.
19:49
SPEAKER_02: He was yeah, the playoff game against Denver.
19:52
SPEAKER_06: Right.
19:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he was a big game against Denver that that year.
19:55
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
19:57
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, the the other guy we all have our running backs now.
20:00
SPEAKER_06: The only other guy that I had on my list was Ernest Jackson, if you guys remember him.
20:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I do.
20:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, 43.
20:06
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, he was there for again another kind of short timer, but they traded for him.
20:11
SPEAKER_06: Buddy Ryan, like, rage traded him uh away from Philadelphia.
20:16
SPEAKER_06: And he was really good when he first came here, and then he kind of tailed off.
20:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
20:21
SPEAKER_02: He had a he had a couple, what I know one really good year.
20:25
SPEAKER_02: Because when you bought I think when you bought Tech Mobile, the first Tech Mobile, you could play as uh uh as him at running back.
20:33
SPEAKER_02: Tim and Hodge, I think.
20:34
SPEAKER_06: That sounds about right.
20:36
SPEAKER_02: Y'all didn't want Tim Worley.
20:38
SPEAKER_02: Uh no.
20:39
SPEAKER_06: I think he was oh no, he was 89.
20:41
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
20:41
SPEAKER_06: I guess we could have drafted him.
20:43
SPEAKER_01: Thanks, but no thanks.
20:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
20:47
SPEAKER_01: I'll take my chances with Abercrombie.
20:50
SPEAKER_01: I have two of the like biggest head cases at running back.
20:53
SPEAKER_01: I really do.
20:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
20:57
SPEAKER_06: So, all right, I get two picks.
20:59
SPEAKER_06: I'm taking I'm taking Larry Brown now.
21:02
SPEAKER_06: I could put Larry Brown at tight end.
21:04
SPEAKER_06: He started his career.
21:05
SPEAKER_06: He did catch touchdown super.
21:07
SPEAKER_01: He's a tackle.
21:09
SPEAKER_01: He played tackle too.
21:10
SPEAKER_06: But yeah, he mostly played tackle, so I'm gonna put him on my offensive line.
21:13
SPEAKER_06: I mean, he's another stalwart, Hall of Honor, all-time team.
21:18
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
21:18
SPEAKER_06: Uh would he play here like 14, 15 years?
21:22
SPEAKER_06: I mean, he's he's one of those guys that's not gonna be mentioned in the same breath as some of the other guys we drafted, but I mean, solid, really good player.
21:31
SPEAKER_06: And then I'm gonna pick another guy that's similar, not not maybe quite like Hall of Honor level level, but a guy that was here for a long time and and was pretty decent on the defensive line.
21:42
SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna take Gary Dunn.
21:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
21:45
SPEAKER_06: So that finished for you out on the line.
21:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
21:48
SPEAKER_06: For defensive line, yep.
21:50
SPEAKER_02: Alright, I need to get a cornerback.
21:52
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna go with uh Dwayne Woodruff.
21:57
SPEAKER_04: That's a good pick.
21:58
SPEAKER_06: The honorable Dwayne Woodruff.
22:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Judge.
22:02
SPEAKER_01: Your Honor.
22:06
SPEAKER_01: Um sticking with uh uh defensive backs, I'll go with uh Mike Wagner.
22:12
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that's who I went in next.
22:14
SPEAKER_06: Good pick.
22:16
SPEAKER_01: And uh what am I I is it I it's my pick again.
22:21
SPEAKER_01: Uh what do we got left?
22:24
SPEAKER_01: Uh I don't know.
22:27
SPEAKER_01: And we said Carnell Lake's available, right?
22:29
SPEAKER_05: It was 1989.
22:32
SPEAKER_01: Oh right, Carnell Lake, man.
22:33
SPEAKER_01: I got Carnell Lake and Mike Wagner as my safeties.
22:36
SPEAKER_01: I think I'm gonna be okay.
22:37
SPEAKER_06: It's pretty good.
22:38
SPEAKER_01: I yeah.
22:40
SPEAKER_01: That sucks.
22:42
SPEAKER_01: Did I take Donny Shell or did somebody else go?
22:45
SPEAKER_01: No, Stevie got him.
22:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
22:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Stevie got him, right?
22:48
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, you could you could maybe engineer a trade after the draft is over.
22:52
SPEAKER_01: I don't know why I I meant to cross him off and I wrote him down.
22:55
SPEAKER_01: Straight up Donishell for Walter Abercrombie.
22:58
SPEAKER_02: That would be the dumbest, that would be the dumbest GM.
23:01
SPEAKER_01: I think I think the the commissioner would have to void that pick.
23:05
SPEAKER_02: I think they would call me the Dallas Mavericks GM of the NFO.
23:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I heard I heard a conspiracy theory that they're they traded that guy because they want to build a new arena or move the team to Vegas.
23:18
SPEAKER_01: So I don't know.
23:19
SPEAKER_02: What is this?
23:21
SPEAKER_02: We're gonna make a movie about him called Major League.
23:23
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I was just gonna say that's the plot of Major League.
23:27
SPEAKER_06: The Rachel Phelps conspiracy theory.
23:31
SPEAKER_01: Oh, well, that was basically what the guy from the Oakland A's was doing.
23:36
SPEAKER_02: Alright, so I need to get some line, defensive line, and gosh knows, with slim pickings.
23:43
SPEAKER_02: Uh I'm gonna just go with Keith Willis.
23:47
SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah, Keith Willis.
23:49
SPEAKER_06: I remember Keith Willis.
23:53
SPEAKER_02: Him and uh Keith Gary.
23:55
SPEAKER_02: Won't Keith Gary the one that almost killed Ken Anderson that night?
23:58
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, he ripped his almost ripped his well, did rip his helmet off.
24:02
SPEAKER_02: Ripped his helmet off, almost broke his neck.
24:04
SPEAKER_02: He did almost.
24:05
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that was a that was a my I think that was a Monday night football game.
24:07
SPEAKER_02: It was a Monday night game.
24:09
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
24:11
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, and then I think he went to the USFL and I want to say like came back to the Steelers or something like that.
24:17
SPEAKER_06: He had a weird career path.
24:19
SPEAKER_06: I remember that.
24:19
unknown: Yeah.
24:21
SPEAKER_06: Uh all right.
24:23
SPEAKER_06: Back to me.
24:24
SPEAKER_06: I don't feel like I have a lot of good options here for wide receiver.
24:29
SPEAKER_06: Um, you guys are making runs on defensive back, so I feel like I gotta take a defensive back.
24:33
SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna take Glenn Edwards.
24:37
SPEAKER_06: So I I'll I'll have him with Mel Blunt.
24:39
SPEAKER_06: I think that's that's gonna help me in the passing game.
24:44
SPEAKER_01: I won a Super Bowl with those guys, I think.
24:46
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
24:47
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
24:48
SPEAKER_06: And then oh boy, here's where things get again a little bit uh challenging.
24:56
SPEAKER_06: Um I'm gonna take I'm gonna stick with defensive back, and I'm gonna take uh Eric Williams, who had that big intercept.
25:05
SPEAKER_06: You talked about that Denver playoff game.
25:07
SPEAKER_06: He he had that interception of Elway in the final minute, so I feel like he's he's he's gonna be our clutch, our clutch defensive back when we need to play late in the game.
25:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
25:20
SPEAKER_02: Gosh.
25:21
SPEAKER_02: Now I'm scrambling for a wide receiver.
25:26
SPEAKER_06: Well, I know I know of one guy that you mentioned before we started recording.
25:30
SPEAKER_06: He's still there.
25:33
SPEAKER_06: Was that a joke?
25:36
SPEAKER_06: He's out there.
25:37
SPEAKER_06: I'm just saying.
25:38
SPEAKER_02: That was a joke.
25:39
SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, I don't think I'll be picking him for wide receiver.
25:43
SPEAKER_06: Um there's a whole lot other.
25:48
SPEAKER_02: I got one.
25:48
SPEAKER_02: He's kind of a kind of an underrated guy, but he was he was okay when he had to step in back then.
25:53
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna go with Jim Smith.
25:55
SPEAKER_06: Oh, okay.
25:56
SPEAKER_06: There you go.
25:57
SPEAKER_06: That's a that's a wow, that's a good one.
25:59
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he he did good when he had to step in.
26:01
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
26:02
SPEAKER_00: Uh my turn?
26:04
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
26:05
SPEAKER_00: Oh man.
26:06
SPEAKER_00: Who's left?
26:07
SPEAKER_00: Oh, jeez.
26:09
SPEAKER_00: Uh who's left?
26:11
SPEAKER_01: Uh I really want to finish out my defensive backfield here.
26:17
SPEAKER_01: Uh JT Thomas.
26:21
SPEAKER_01: I uh I don't know.
26:22
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that's who I almost picked instead of Williams.
26:25
SPEAKER_06: It's a good pick.
26:26
SPEAKER_02: What are y'all doing?
26:27
SPEAKER_02: Every time I'm thinking about my next pick, that's like three times.
26:31
SPEAKER_02: You've done it twice now, Steve.
26:33
SPEAKER_02: Fucking like this guy.
26:35
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna stop thinking.
26:36
SPEAKER_02: I'm not clear my hands.
26:38
SPEAKER_01: You're putting those vibes out there.
26:40
SPEAKER_01: And uh let's see.
26:44
SPEAKER_01: Did anybody pick Brian Engel?
26:48
SPEAKER_06: No, we talked about him, but he's got it.
26:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, why why the heck thought?
26:52
SPEAKER_01: Brian Hingle.
26:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
26:54
SPEAKER_01: Finish out my linebackers.
26:56
SPEAKER_06: Yep.
26:56
SPEAKER_06: Another another 10 years earlier, 10 years later, guy.
26:59
SPEAKER_06: I really I really think there's so many guys that just languished away on some of those like mid-80s teams.
27:07
SPEAKER_02: So let's see.
27:09
SPEAKER_02: Gosh, this is getting tough.
27:12
SPEAKER_02: Um I guess I'll go.
27:18
SPEAKER_02: Robin Cole with linebacker.
27:22
SPEAKER_06: That's a good one.
27:23
SPEAKER_06: That's probably the best uh the best linebacker available.
27:28
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
27:31
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
27:32
SPEAKER_06: Um I I'm also gonna finish out my defensive backs.
27:37
SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna go Tony Dungey.
27:40
SPEAKER_01: It's like having a coach on the field, Tim.
27:42
SPEAKER_01: Right.
27:42
SPEAKER_01: That's that's what I figure.
27:45
SPEAKER_06: That's that's we gotta we gotta have some leadership, you know.
27:49
SPEAKER_01: You know, could we pick him as quarterback?
27:51
SPEAKER_01: Could I pick him as quarterback on my back?
27:53
SPEAKER_01: A lot of people don't realize that.
27:55
SPEAKER_06: You probably could have.
27:56
SPEAKER_06: You probably could have, but not.
27:58
SPEAKER_01: I just need somebody to hand off to my amazing running backs of Boster and have a crop.
28:03
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, Stalworth is gonna want to demand a trade here because no one's gonna be able to throw him the ball.
28:09
SPEAKER_01: We'll run some reverses for him, yeah.
28:13
SPEAKER_06: Um, I'm gonna fin I'm gonna finish off my receivers too.
28:16
SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna take Ronnie Shanklin.
28:20
SPEAKER_01: Oh, come on, Ron Shanklin.
28:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's that good.
28:23
SPEAKER_06: He made the Pro Bowl.
28:25
SPEAKER_06: Oh tell tell me who's on the board who's better than Ron Shanklin.
28:32
SPEAKER_06: You have to pick one.
28:33
SPEAKER_06: Ouija Thompson.
28:34
SPEAKER_06: Yep, Ouija Thompson's still out there.
28:36
SPEAKER_01: I mean I I have a guy I I've been hanging, I I thought I could get late and I I I think he's okay.
28:42
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I didn't really I didn't really see any of these people play, so I'm just kind of going off like instinct or like people I've heard of.
28:48
SPEAKER_01: So Okay.
28:50
SPEAKER_01: And I just have a fun fact about him.
28:51
SPEAKER_01: So Okay.
28:52
SPEAKER_06: Well, yeah, you you we we both have our receivers, Steve.
28:56
SPEAKER_06: So you you can't.
28:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you're you're good on receivers and whatever quarterback you want, too.
29:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
29:01
SPEAKER_06: Yep, Mark Mullen's still still waiting on the bench for your call.
29:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
29:05
SPEAKER_02: He can catch, he can catch too.
29:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, longest, longest reception in Steeler history.
29:12
SPEAKER_02: You can run like the instead of the Philly special, run the Pittsburgh special, didn't you?
29:17
SPEAKER_02: There you go.
29:19
SPEAKER_04: Hmm.
29:21
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
29:22
SPEAKER_02: He started in 89, so I'm gonna uh I'm gonna go John Jackson on the line.
29:29
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
29:32
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that's a good pick.
29:33
SPEAKER_06: I didn't think about him.
29:34
SPEAKER_01: All right.
29:35
SPEAKER_01: Um I'm going to say that we're not going to have drug testing.
29:39
SPEAKER_01: So I'm thinking Steve.
29:41
SPEAKER_01: I'm thinking Steve Corson.
29:42
SPEAKER_01: So the late Steve Corson.
29:48
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
29:48
SPEAKER_01: Which is just the most weirdest way to go cutting down a tree.
29:52
SPEAKER_01: Which is odd.
29:55
SPEAKER_01: Which leads me to another pick.
29:57
SPEAKER_01: Um, sure, who's left?
30:00
SPEAKER_01: I just need offensive linemen, so cool.
30:03
SPEAKER_01: Um I don't know.
30:06
SPEAKER_01: I don't know any of these people.
30:07
SPEAKER_01: Ray Pinckney?
30:09
SPEAKER_01: Pink Penny?
30:10
SPEAKER_01: Ray Penny?
30:10
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
30:11
SPEAKER_02: Penny, Penny.
30:12
SPEAKER_01: Penny, Penny, yeah.
30:13
SPEAKER_01: Sure, we'll take him.
30:17
SPEAKER_02: All these guys can be mad when they don't have a quarterback behind them.
30:21
SPEAKER_01: They got a quarterback.
30:22
SPEAKER_01: There's a quarterback that you guys haven't mentioned that he made the cover of Sports Illustrated.
30:28
SPEAKER_01: So is it Chris?
30:31
SPEAKER_01: Is it oh okay?
30:32
SPEAKER_06: I think we know who it is.
30:33
SPEAKER_06: Yep.
30:34
SPEAKER_06: But we'll see.
30:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
30:36
SPEAKER_02: Let's see.
30:39
SPEAKER_02: I need a defensive back.
30:42
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna go Thomas Everett.
30:45
SPEAKER_06: Oh, yeah.
30:46
SPEAKER_06: That's another guy who was upset that we lost.
30:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, get a Super Bowl in Dallas.
30:51
SPEAKER_06: Yep.
30:53
SPEAKER_06: Although we did replace him with Darren Perry, so it worked out okay.
30:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we worked out.
30:59
SPEAKER_06: Alright, I'm gonna finish off my offensive line.
31:02
SPEAKER_06: Um, Sam Davis.
31:03
SPEAKER_06: I can't believe he's still there.
31:04
SPEAKER_06: He's another guy that's in the Hall of Honor for the Steelers.
31:07
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
31:08
SPEAKER_01: I see, I don't I didn't know I don't know some of these guys.
31:11
SPEAKER_01: Like it's like just the name.
31:12
SPEAKER_06: Definitely taking him.
31:13
SPEAKER_01: Like, what down the guard?
31:15
SPEAKER_01: How do you know a guard's gooder?
31:17
SPEAKER_01: You know?
31:18
SPEAKER_01: You had to watch him play, I guess.
31:20
SPEAKER_06: And then I'm also gonna take, let me see, I want to finish off my offensive line.
31:26
SPEAKER_06: If Steve said there's no drug testing in this fantasy league, I'm gonna take Terry Long.
31:34
SPEAKER_06: The late Terry, the another late.
31:36
SPEAKER_06: I I'm pretty sure all my offensive linemen are passed away.
31:39
SPEAKER_06: Larry Brown, I think, is still alive.
31:41
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, Terry.
31:42
SPEAKER_01: I think Dermani Dawson's the only guy that's alive on my offensive line.
31:47
SPEAKER_02: Terry Long was actually uh the college football team.
31:51
SPEAKER_02: I pulled for ECU.
31:52
SPEAKER_02: They're they're like Greenville is like maybe an hour from here.
31:57
SPEAKER_02: So when he got, that was like the one of the the big, big guys, no pun intended, for uh ECU got all American his senior year, and he was yeah, he was definitely, you know, drug testing wasn't would not be his friend.
32:13
SPEAKER_06: Um he committed suicide is how he died, I remember sadly.
32:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I I do remember because it was a big big news around here uh when it happened.
32:27
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
32:29
SPEAKER_02: What am I really lacking on?
32:31
SPEAKER_02: I need one there, one there.
32:35
SPEAKER_02: Gosh, this is getting tough.
32:37
SPEAKER_02: Uh linebackers are gonna go to Lawrence.
32:42
SPEAKER_02: Or however you say his name.
32:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
32:47
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
32:50
SPEAKER_02: That fills out my linebacker.
32:52
SPEAKER_06: All right, Steve, I think it's back to you, right?
32:56
SPEAKER_01: Yes, it is.
32:58
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
32:59
SPEAKER_02: Uh let us know who that quarterback is.
33:02
SPEAKER_01: Oh, we'll we'll make him last.
33:04
SPEAKER_01: We'll save him last.
33:05
SPEAKER_01: Uh sure, I'll go tight end.
33:07
SPEAKER_01: Um, I'm going with Benny Cunningham.
33:12
SPEAKER_06: Number 89.
33:14
SPEAKER_01: Benny Cunningham.
33:16
SPEAKER_01: And then I get another pick.
33:17
SPEAKER_01: I can finish out.
33:19
SPEAKER_01: Well, should I go wide receiver or well, you guys don't.
33:24
SPEAKER_01: Uh I don't know who any of these people are.
33:26
SPEAKER_01: Bruce Van Dyke?
33:28
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
33:29
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
33:30
SPEAKER_01: I started receiver?
33:32
SPEAKER_01: No, he's uh offensive lineman, I think.
33:34
SPEAKER_01: Oh I don't have no idea.
33:37
SPEAKER_01: Diggs brother?
33:38
SPEAKER_01: I guess.
33:39
SPEAKER_01: I I have no idea who he is.
33:40
SPEAKER_01: He started one year for the Steelers between 72 and 80.
33:44
SPEAKER_01: So I like I said, when it gets down to offensive linemen, who to be there.
33:49
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it's it's yeah, it gets harder and harder.
33:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
33:53
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
33:53
SPEAKER_02: So I got I'm gonna go Jim Clack from an offensive line.
33:59
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, I had him see, I had him written down there too, and I like I don't know.
34:04
SPEAKER_06: So I think we all have our offensive linemen.
34:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, offensive line done.
34:07
SPEAKER_01: I'm done with my tight end, and so you yeah, you got your pick of tight ends there, Tim.
34:13
SPEAKER_01: There's one left that's really good.
34:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
34:15
SPEAKER_06: I'll hold off on tight end.
34:17
SPEAKER_06: I do need two more linebackers.
34:20
SPEAKER_06: Um, I'm gonna take Dirt Winston for one of my linebackers.
34:25
SPEAKER_06: Dennis, Dennis Dirt Winston.
34:29
SPEAKER_06: And then I still need another linebacker.
34:32
SPEAKER_06: I really felt like linebacker I could just sit on because there's just like you guys said, you can't go wrong with steelware linebackers.
34:38
SPEAKER_06: But now I gotta admit I'm struggling a little bit.
34:42
SPEAKER_06: Um I'm I'm regretting it.
34:46
SPEAKER_06: So I think I will, and I think I'll pivot here.
34:50
SPEAKER_06: Um, because I only have two picks left.
34:53
SPEAKER_06: So I'm gonna hold on the linebacker.
34:55
SPEAKER_06: I'm I am gonna take my tight end.
34:57
SPEAKER_06: And for my tight end, I have I have so you guys already took your tight end.
35:03
SPEAKER_06: Um I have I have two options here, and I think I think I'm gonna take Randy Grossman.
35:08
SPEAKER_01: Oh, who's he who's the other guy?
35:10
SPEAKER_01: McMahon McMain?
35:12
SPEAKER_01: I don't even know.
35:12
SPEAKER_01: That was my I had to research him, Tim, to find out because I was like, I better write down four tight ends just because I had Larry Brown as one of the tight ends.
35:21
SPEAKER_01: I was like, well, I better come up with an extra tight end.
35:23
SPEAKER_06: You could have put you could have put Larry Brown in tight end, like we said, but but it makes more sense to put him on the line.
35:28
SPEAKER_06: But McMacon was the tight end who um Phil Villapiano said dove into the back of his legs on the immaculate reception, or else Phil Phil Villa Piano would have caught Frank or McMain not dove into the back of his legs.
35:42
SPEAKER_06: So that's what I always remember McMain for.
35:44
SPEAKER_06: The other the other guy I was thinking of actually was Mike Mullarkey.
35:47
SPEAKER_06: Oh, yeah.
35:48
SPEAKER_06: Who later became the Steelers offensive coordinator.
35:50
SPEAKER_06: He was actually another really underrated tight end on those late 80s teams.
35:55
SPEAKER_06: They didn't throw a ton on those years, and so that's he never had big stats, but he he was just one of those guys that was just kind of like open a lot and and underrated.
36:06
SPEAKER_06: So I almost took him, but I'm gonna go Randy Grossman.
36:09
SPEAKER_02: So my pick, right?
36:13
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I think you you have what you need a defensive lineman and a defensive back, yeah.
36:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
36:20
SPEAKER_02: Alright, so I'm gonna go uh gosh.
36:23
SPEAKER_02: I just talked about him.
36:25
SPEAKER_02: No, I'm gonna I'm gonna go Gerald Williams.
36:29
SPEAKER_06: Gerald with a G.
36:30
SPEAKER_02: Gerald, not Gerald.
36:32
SPEAKER_02: Gerald.
36:33
SPEAKER_02: Gerald with a roll.
36:35
SPEAKER_06: Gerald with a G.
36:36
SPEAKER_06: That's what they I just remember like Jack Fleming, even Bill Hillgrove, like Gerald with the G, Gerald with a J.
36:43
SPEAKER_06: That's what they'd always call him on the radio.
36:45
SPEAKER_06: All right, Steve, I think you're down to your last two picks here.
36:48
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
36:49
SPEAKER_01: So this is it for me.
36:51
SPEAKER_01: All right.
36:52
SPEAKER_01: Well, we'll go out with a bang.
36:53
SPEAKER_01: I'm going to pick Calvin Sweeney.
36:58
SPEAKER_01: And he he's the man that caught uh Terry Bradshaw's last touchdown pass in Chase Stadium.
37:05
SPEAKER_06: So Ouija Thompson goes undrafted.
37:10
SPEAKER_06: Well, I'll be on the phone with him after this to try and sign him as an undrafted free agent.
37:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
37:16
SPEAKER_01: Um and I guess I now it's my pick again.
37:19
SPEAKER_01: I guess we're going three, two, one.
37:21
SPEAKER_06: But your quarterback is the only second left.
37:23
SPEAKER_01: My my quarterback will be without further ado from Memphis, Tennessee, Mr.
37:27
SPEAKER_01: Joe Gillam.
37:28
SPEAKER_01: Delay to Joe Gillum.
37:30
SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
37:30
SPEAKER_06: I didn't even I didn't even have him on my list.
37:33
SPEAKER_06: I forgot about him.
37:36
SPEAKER_01: He was on the color of Scorts Illustrated.
37:39
SPEAKER_01: I got him with the last.
37:41
SPEAKER_01: What a steal! What an absolute I am hiding the drugs and the steroids.
37:46
SPEAKER_01: The steroids are Steam Horses, the drugs are Joe Gillum.
37:50
SPEAKER_01: We're gonna win the Super Bowl.
37:52
SPEAKER_06: Wow, that's a sneaky, sneaky pick.
37:55
SPEAKER_02: That was sneaky.
37:57
SPEAKER_06: I'm impressed.
38:00
SPEAKER_02: Gosh.
38:01
SPEAKER_01: He was on the cover of Sports Illustrated as Pittsburgh's black quarterback.
38:06
SPEAKER_01: That's that was it.
38:07
SPEAKER_01: I I think that was in 75, too.
38:10
SPEAKER_01: He started, I think he started what six games the year 74 they won the year they won the Super Bowl.
38:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he did.
38:18
SPEAKER_02: Started the season, then he was a day starter.
38:21
SPEAKER_01: He got hurt and he threw too many interceptions, is what it had.
38:25
SPEAKER_01: He got a little too careless for Chuck Knowle.
38:27
SPEAKER_01: So not that Terry didn't throw his fair share either.
38:32
SPEAKER_01: Terry didn't Terry didn't get hurt as much as the uh yeah, as Joe Gillam.
38:37
SPEAKER_01: It's the saddest story, probably, in Steeler history, because it's the biggest, like there might be an alternative universe out there where Terry Bradshaw is like a fourth string quarterback and Joe Gillam has four Super Bowl rings.
38:49
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that's true.
38:52
SPEAKER_02: In the multiverse.
38:54
SPEAKER_02: Alright.
38:55
SPEAKER_02: So I've got corner.
38:57
SPEAKER_02: And there's Slim Pickens on that too.
38:59
SPEAKER_02: But uh we'll go Ron Johnson.
39:04
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I had him on my list too.
39:06
SPEAKER_06: Alright.
39:07
SPEAKER_06: So then it's back to me for the final pick of the draft, Mr.
39:12
SPEAKER_06: Irrelevant.
39:15
SPEAKER_06: And I've still got to take a linebacker.
39:17
SPEAKER_06: And like I said, I really I really thought there'd be more linebackers by this point.
39:25
SPEAKER_06: Um but boy, we're really down to the to the dregs here.
39:31
SPEAKER_06: Um I'm going to take.
39:35
SPEAKER_06: I'm trying to think of who you can take.
39:37
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I'm I'm gonna take I'm gonna take Craig Bingham.
39:41
SPEAKER_06: I I I it this is literally like process of elimination because I just can't I don't know who Henry Henry Davis is, but I had him on my list.
39:50
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, there's a couple guys from the early 70s too.
39:53
SPEAKER_06: I mean, Craig Bingham played for them for a couple years in the late 80s or in the mid-80s.
39:57
SPEAKER_06: Um was never really a starter.
40:01
SPEAKER_06: I just I just it's I just don't have anybody.
40:03
SPEAKER_06: The problem with linebacker, as I just figured out now, is that um because like you guys said, there were so many good uh linebackers that like there weren't really anybody like we picked them all.
40:17
SPEAKER_06: There wasn't a lot of turnover at that position.
40:20
SPEAKER_02: They were they were all so good, they stayed around for so long, yeah.
40:23
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I mean I I just was looking through rosters and and literally like all the starters for pretty much every year, we they're all they're all gone.
40:31
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
40:31
SPEAKER_06: So that's the best I can do is Craig Bingham.
40:34
SPEAKER_06: I'm disappointed, but he's Mr.
40:36
SPEAKER_06: Irrelevant, so what can you do?
40:40
SPEAKER_01: I can't believe I got Joe Gillum in the last round.
40:42
SPEAKER_06: I yeah, that was that was sneaky.
40:44
SPEAKER_06: I can't believe I didn't think about him.
40:47
SPEAKER_06: That was pretty sneaky, Steve.
40:48
SPEAKER_06: I'm impressed.
40:50
SPEAKER_01: Pretty sneaky, sis.
40:55
SPEAKER_06: Uh let's go over our roster.
40:57
SPEAKER_06: Steve, tell us who you have.
40:59
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
41:00
SPEAKER_01: Um, all right.
41:01
SPEAKER_01: And starting at quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers in whatever year this is, Joe Gillam.
41:07
SPEAKER_01: He uh starting at running back, he has Barry Foster and Walter Abba Crombie.
41:11
SPEAKER_01: So we're gonna be able to be throwing the ball fair amount.
41:14
SPEAKER_01: Um uh John Stallworth and uh Calvin Sweeney.
41:19
SPEAKER_01: I think Stalworth's gonna open the field up for Calvin Sweeney, so I think I'm okay there.
41:23
SPEAKER_01: And Calvin Sweeney wasn't terrible.
41:25
SPEAKER_01: Um uh Benny Cunningham, we got a solid tight end, man.
41:29
SPEAKER_01: We got it.
41:30
SPEAKER_01: We have for one, I'm surprised out of like the Steelers did not have a lot of tight end options there in the 70s and 80s, but um, we did all right.
41:37
SPEAKER_01: As for offensive line, we got a Hall of Famer, uh, Daronnie Dawson, Moon Mullens got it had a great block in a Super Bowl.
41:45
SPEAKER_01: Steve Horson, of course, and uh whoever Ray Penny and Bruce Van Dyke, I don't know who they are.
41:49
SPEAKER_01: Um I'm sure they're great.
41:51
SPEAKER_01: Um Joe Green, Dwight White, and Steve Furnettes.
41:54
SPEAKER_01: I got a really I really wanted Ernie Holmes to complete the set, but Tim beat me to it.
41:58
SPEAKER_01: And I really that would have been the set there.
42:00
SPEAKER_01: And my linebackers are solid.
42:02
SPEAKER_01: Andy Russell and Hardy Nickerson, David Little, Brian Hinkle, probably a little underrated with Brian Hingle, but I think I got a good, really good linebackers.
42:11
SPEAKER_01: Defensive backs, uh, I'm solid with Rod Woodson on one side, but JT Thomas, I don't know, on the other side.
42:17
SPEAKER_01: But at safety, heck yeah, I'm set.
42:19
SPEAKER_01: I got Mike Wagner and Carnell Lake.
42:22
SPEAKER_01: I'm all right.
42:22
SPEAKER_01: If JT Thomas stinks, I can move Carnell Lake the corner.
42:26
SPEAKER_06: So yeah, that's a that's a that's a solid team.
42:29
SPEAKER_06: Like you said, you're not gonna run the ball a whole lot, but that's a solid team otherwise.
42:34
SPEAKER_06: All right, Stevie, read us your roster.
42:36
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so my team is probably gonna be a running team because we got Bubby Bristol at quarterback.
42:41
SPEAKER_02: You know, he has his moments.
42:43
SPEAKER_02: Then you got, of course, the the legendary late Franco Harris and Frank Pollard at running backs.
42:50
SPEAKER_02: Louis Lips, who Eric Dixon liked to talk about in Diet Co.
42:54
SPEAKER_02: commercials.
42:54
SPEAKER_02: Louis Lips that shakes Eric's hips.
42:56
SPEAKER_02: You know, you remember that?
42:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
43:00
SPEAKER_02: Louis Lips and Jim Smith, who I think was underrated wide receiver there.
43:04
SPEAKER_02: And then you got the big target across the middle with Eric Green.
43:08
SPEAKER_02: Um, of course, the late great Mike Webster at center with Craig Woofley, John Colb, John Jackson, and Jim Clack on the offensive line.
43:18
SPEAKER_01: Good offensive line.
43:20
SPEAKER_01: That's a good offensive line.
43:21
SPEAKER_02: I'll take that offensive line.
43:23
SPEAKER_02: You put Eric Green at tight end, too.
43:25
SPEAKER_02: That's you know, if you want it, you can run the ball.
43:27
SPEAKER_02: Um we're gonna have to.
43:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
43:30
SPEAKER_02: John Banasak at defensive line, Keith Willis and Gerald Williams.
43:35
SPEAKER_02: Um my linebackers, Jack Ham, Greg Lloyd, Robin Cole, and Lauren Toase.
43:40
SPEAKER_02: Toads, Taves, I can never say his name right.
43:44
SPEAKER_02: Uh secondary, my corners are Dwayne Woodruff and Ron Johnson, and then my safeties are Donnie Schill with Thomas Everett.
43:52
SPEAKER_06: That's a pretty good team.
43:53
SPEAKER_02: I th I'll take that.
43:54
SPEAKER_02: I'll take that.
43:55
SPEAKER_06: It's well balanced.
43:57
SPEAKER_02: Just Bubby needs to uh Well well, I was gonna say we could we could draft a coach, but that was the only coach we had.
44:05
SPEAKER_02: And Bubby Bubby uh about drove Chuck Nall crazy, so Yeah, that's that's actually funny.
44:11
SPEAKER_06: We couldn't draft coaches because there's only one to pick from.
44:14
SPEAKER_06: That's a good point.
44:15
SPEAKER_01: I mean, unless you count Tony Dungey.
44:17
SPEAKER_01: Or Mike Mike Mallarkey.
44:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, my yeah.
44:23
SPEAKER_06: All right, so for my roster, I've got Terry Bradshaw.
44:26
SPEAKER_06: I feel like that's where I'm gonna have the advantage at quarterback.
44:29
SPEAKER_06: He's gonna be handing off to Rocky Blyer and Merrill Halloween.
44:32
SPEAKER_01: So you you have Joe Gillam's backup.
44:35
SPEAKER_01: Bill Robertson's backup, too.
44:39
SPEAKER_06: So yeah, Rocky Blair and Merrill Hodge are the running backs.
44:43
SPEAKER_06: Lynn Swan and Ron Shanklin are the receivers.
44:47
SPEAKER_06: Got Randy Grossman as my tight end.
44:50
SPEAKER_06: On the offensive line, I've got Tunch, Ilkin, Sam Davis, Ray Mansfield, Larry Brown, and Terry Long.
44:58
SPEAKER_06: On the defensive line, I've got LC Greenwood, Fats Holmes, and Gary Dunn.
45:03
SPEAKER_06: For the linebackers, I've got Jack Lambert, Mike Merriweather, Dirt Winston, and the Immortal Craig Bingham.
45:09
SPEAKER_06: And then for defensive backs, I've got Mel Blunt and Glenn Edwards, and then I've got Eric Williams and Tony Dungey kind of you know drawing up the plays and being our captain back there.
45:23
SPEAKER_06: But designing that cover too.
45:26
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, there you go.
45:27
SPEAKER_06: As he's you know getting getting the team out of the huddle.
45:31
SPEAKER_06: Alright.
45:32
SPEAKER_06: You know, we didn't draft a kicker.
45:33
SPEAKER_06: Who would you guys have drafted if we had kickers?
45:35
SPEAKER_01: Oh, go through it.
45:36
SPEAKER_01: I I know who I would have picked, but hey.
45:39
SPEAKER_01: Gorilla?
45:40
SPEAKER_01: You're picking Gorilla?
45:42
SPEAKER_01: No.
45:42
SPEAKER_01: I would I would I was gonna pick uh what's his name, Matt Barr.
45:46
SPEAKER_01: That's who I want to take.
45:47
SPEAKER_06: Oh, nobody's taking Gary Anderson.
45:48
SPEAKER_06: I'll take Gary Anderson.
45:49
SPEAKER_01: No, that's I would have taken.
45:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, for exp.
45:51
SPEAKER_01: I'm stuck with Gorilla's gorillas, thanks.
45:56
SPEAKER_02: Fine, I'm taking you Lambert on what you think, so he can't be uh Gorilla's bodyguard.
46:03
SPEAKER_01: That's right.
46:03
SPEAKER_01: That's right.
46:04
SPEAKER_01: I'm picking Craig Newsome or whatever as my punter or whatever.
46:07
SPEAKER_06: Harry Newsom.
46:08
SPEAKER_01: Harry News, yeah.
46:10
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, punter would have been slim pickings as well.
46:13
SPEAKER_02: I'll take Craig Coldwitz.
46:15
SPEAKER_06: All right, everybody.
46:16
SPEAKER_06: Thank you so much for listening, Stevie.
46:17
SPEAKER_06: Thank you so much for joining us.
46:19
SPEAKER_02: Hey guys, anytime I enjoyed it.
46:21
SPEAKER_02: Anytime I can talk stable football, I'm all for it.
46:24
SPEAKER_06: Uh please catch uh Stevie's podcast.
46:27
SPEAKER_06: It's called The Final Score.
46:29
SPEAKER_06: You can find that probably the same place you can find our podcast.
46:32
SPEAKER_06: Uh he's he's done, like he alluded to, a bunch of great interviews with some Pittsburgh legends.
46:38
SPEAKER_06: Good episodes.
46:39
SPEAKER_06: Find that, and also find that because we're going to do a part two of this Steeler draft where instead of 70s and 80s players, we're going to draft 90s through present, and that will air on his podcast.
46:51
SPEAKER_06: So go check that out as well.
46:55
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46:56
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46:59
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