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- 0:00It's still up. Welcome everybody. Welcome to This week's edition is snow Real
- 0:20Go Show episode number six hundred ninety four for June one, twenty twenty three.
- 0:26Welcome to your Tie United Champions, an XT Battle, Brownie a w
- 0:31Double or Nothing recap and review, EDI Show of ass of to you.
- 0:37I am one half the show. I am Jeff Pack joined every single week
- 0:41to my cost one only. Doctor Try Franklin, Doctor try, I see
- 0:44you're wearing. I survived fifteen hours of wrestling programming my friend. Yeah,
- 0:48it's it's a quote aligned from the Hangover, But did you die? Like
- 0:53that's kind of how I felt coming into actually Thursday, because literally wrestling Saturday,
- 1:00wrestling Sunday, wrestling on Monday, wrestling on Tuesday, wrestling on Wednesday,
- 1:04And uh yeah I survived this um and I didn't die. So that's
- 1:10always about his points. I guess that. I mean, it'd be hard
- 1:11to do the pote the podcast with the ghost of Trey Franklin. No,
- 1:15that would be that would be very difficult. I watched Night of Champions,
- 1:19I watched Anexty, Battleground, AW Double or Nothing, Raw, n xt
- 1:23AW, Dynamite, and then just to spice things up here a little bit,
- 1:27Doctor Trey. I watched Most Wanted Treasures, w Most Wanted Treasures on
- 1:33an E, Sonhold Takes on America on A and E, and I watched
- 1:37the season debut of Vice's Dark Side of the Ring with Tammy Sitch and Chris
- 1:45Candido. So I was like fully in through all the Profreshion wrestling programming over
- 1:49the last week. Highly recommend the Dark Side of the Ring stuff for those
- 1:53who have never watched it. But yeah, I guess we won't recap the
- 1:57final three, but we definitely have a lot of stuff to recap in the
- 2:01first three. Doctor Trey. Lots of wrestling this past weekend, and of
- 2:04course it was a Memorial Day. Also, did you watch You didn't watch
- 2:07the show that came on after Dynamite, The Hulk Hogan. I didn't.
- 2:12I did not, So actually it's funny you say that. So I watched
- 2:15Dynamite on DVR a little bit of a delay and it cut into that show
- 2:21and I was like, crap, I did not DVR it. I made
- 2:25it all the way through. Now, mind you, I haven't been sleeping
- 2:29much. Okay, he is pregnant for those one ring oh god, I
- 2:34can only dream. I mean, I'd make a lot of money off that.
- 2:38So I made it. It was almost like do you remember the old
- 2:39VH one behind the Music Store like show? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 2:44I'm old. Remember we just had this discussion off air. We're both old.
- 2:46I do remember those. So it was kind of done like that,
- 2:52like they don't interview Hogan, they're interviewing Flair. They're interviewing like the writer
- 2:55of the unauthorized biography. They're they're interviewing and the Rate characters to Hogan's life.
- 3:00So I made it all the way up through where the sex tape came
- 3:05out, and then I was like, okay, I'm doing I can only
- 3:08take so much Bubba the Love Sponge on my TV at one point and I
- 3:12was like, yeah, I'm done. We're good for now. So would
- 3:15you recommend me watching it if you like the sensationalism because they referenced the sex
- 3:23tape, they referenced the you know in words stuff like they referenced the Rate
- 3:28well, the racist rant however you want to phrase it. They reference all
- 3:30that stuff, and then I don't know how it ended, Like the first
- 3:34half was really good. This shows some old footage of Hogan from the seventies
- 3:38and early eighties, and they chronicle the run of there. But once they
- 3:43got into the sensationalism of the Hogan sex tape and the racist rant, I
- 3:47was like, yeah, it's it's I'm wrestling doubt so I am going too
- 3:52bad and dream about wrestling. So it sounds like, no, I should
- 3:55not watch it. It's not. I mean, if you're comparing it to
- 4:00like, I mean, we love the Vice stuff the Dark Side, it's
- 4:02amazing. I don't think there's been a bad episode of Dark Side of the
- 4:06Ring yet that I've seen. So if you're comparing it, it's like watching
- 4:11if it's watching a documentary that you're really into, versus the v H one
- 4:15behind the music stuff. Okay, all right, good stuff, good stuff,
- 4:18all right, I'll have to see and potentially check that out. Highly
- 4:23recommend The Dark Side of the Ring. By the way, Chris Candino story
- 4:28incredibly sad, and I forgot how incredibly it's sad sad it was until I
- 4:32rewatched it recently and the first episode of this past Tuesday over on a Vice,
- 4:40which I guess could be going bankrupt soon or is bankrupt at this point.
- 4:44Lots to cover here on this week's This Show. Let's start chronologically.
- 4:46We'll go to Saturday, Doctor Trey nine of Champions recab and review this past
- 4:50Saturday from Jetta Superdome in Jetta, Saudi Arabia, and I'll just start it
- 4:55out. Well, maybe I'll save it towards the end. Let's get to
- 4:57the first match. Seth Freaking Roll Defeast aj Styles in the tournament final to
- 5:01win the inaugural w World Await Championship. You and I both had Seth Frank
- 5:04and Rons again the victory. Solid match that felt like this result was a
- 5:08foregone conclusion all along. Seth Rons is a world champion again, and I
- 5:13am here for it. Doctor Trey. Yeah, like SE's one of our
- 5:15favorite characters on TV right now. I don't know if I can say this
- 5:20match delivered just because of the fact that, you know, it's a little
- 5:25bit it wasn't as good like the foregot the conclusion was there, so to
- 5:29speak, Yeah, yeah, it was. It just it just always felt
- 5:31like it was gonna be Cody or Seth Frank and Rons. I guess is
- 5:34where I sit on it? Sorry, they're making me move my vehicle.
- 5:42Oh, no problem, who who is making you move to your vehicle?
- 5:45So apparently, so I stopped at a target to record the podcast on the
- 5:48way home, and I guess they're about to repave the concrete. So the
- 5:56workers are like, hey, weird guy on the phone in an suv,
- 5:59can you please leave your vehicle to the other park a lot? And it
- 6:00was a guy who spoke very very little English, so I had to acquiesce
- 6:05to his request. That's I'm going to leave this in this podcast. So
- 6:10usually we edit stuff like this out, but I think we leave this one
- 6:13in because it was like, I'm like, do we lose them? No,
- 6:15it's not as good. It's not as good as the policeman. But
- 6:18now like it's not as good as say, this might be top four,
- 6:20but this is not good as Sammy assaulting me or the police. But when
- 6:26you have a hispanic what is that noise? I don't know what that always
- 6:30is? What is that? Oh? Apparently got an email? Nothing all
- 6:35day? And then of course I get this guy and then the emails um
- 6:39shows going off the rails here, folks, Oh, I know quickly this
- 6:42is this is like I survived. This podcast should be the T shirt.
- 6:45I'm wearing it all right, let's get to h Let's get to the next
- 6:47match here, Doctor Trey tris Stradis defeats Becky Lynch. You and I bought
- 6:50that tristradis good match. Really like the addition of Zoe Start to this feud
- 6:54and getting involved in the match to help Trish. Did not see that comment.
- 6:57I'm a fan of Zoe Stark, so I liked what I saw.
- 7:00Good match this past Saturday night. Yeah, I really enjoyed the match.
- 7:02I love the Zoe Start pairing because for a lot of the younger fans,
- 7:05they don't are the fans, they don't want to Anstey don't only know her,
- 7:08but not just that, but she looks like a version of Trish.
- 7:11She looks like a little bit younger Jack Verger or Trish where they staying side
- 7:15by side, So I loved it. Plus this also they could also bring
- 7:17Leda back into the picture because we could get Becky and Leda versus Zoe and
- 7:20Trish as well. So that makes my heart happy as well. Next match
- 7:26here is Gunther defeating Mustafa Ali to retain the w Intercontinental Championship. We both
- 7:30had Gunther very entertaining match. Mustafa Ali looked like a star and I don't
- 7:34know when the last time we saw a bad match from Gunther. So great
- 7:38match Gunther mustaf Ali, who later showed up on NXE television this past week.
- 7:44I guess hess I set on the North American Championship in Wesley. Loved
- 7:47this match, Doc Tree, it was a lot of fun. No fantastic
- 7:49match. Doesn't have a bad match. This also to me, this reminded
- 7:54me of Rhan Zalina from you know, the previous pay per viewer, like
- 7:58over with the crowd. They had to make him look good. You still
- 8:01got the heel champion winning, but Mustafa comes out look. The only thing
- 8:05I question is Mustafa comes out looking really strong and then he gets sent to
- 8:07NXT Like that makes kind of question the thought process behind him, so I
- 8:13question that as well. And then he made mention that he's a free agent.
- 8:18I was like, that's interesting, and they did play off of his
- 8:20match with Gunther going for the Intercontinental Championship that he wants more opportunities at gold.
- 8:26He's a free agent. We saw who attacked Carmelo Hayes at the end
- 8:31of NXC television that we'll talk about here. Later on, So I thought
- 8:35from a storyline standpoint and actually made sense. But I could see your understanding,
- 8:39like, Okay, he goes from Icy title to maybe the North American
- 8:41Championship. But I think it does help elevate NXC some when you have the
- 8:46most recent Intercontinental Championship challenger down in NXT going after one of their championships.
- 8:52Yeah. I mean, we saw it with Dolf last year doing that and
- 8:56helping Guy. We see you with Apollo, So it's a formula. It's
- 8:58worked. It was just like you said, like going from the Intercontal title
- 9:01to now I guess the NXT version of the Intercontal title the North American title
- 9:05is kind of to me a step backwards. And at this point, I
- 9:09just I think I think they're trying to figure out what to do with Mustafa
- 9:13because the positive Ali gimmick didn't really work, the retribution gimmick didn't work.
- 9:18The only one that people really got behind was the iron man gimmick that he
- 9:20was kind of doing for a while, you know, during the two oh
- 9:24five Live days, and he's just I think he's a star. I'm a
- 9:28Mustaf Ali fan, and wherever he ends up, if he gets more television
- 9:31time and more match time. I'm here for it, so happy for him.
- 9:35Oscar defeats Bianca Belair to win the w W RAW Woman's Championship. I
- 9:39had Oscar Doctor Trey Bianca Belair. I liked to finish with Oscar sprain that
- 9:43miss on our hands to blind Bianca during the ko D spot. This was
- 9:46the right call, as Bianca's title ran was kind of getting a little bit
- 9:48stale Doctor Trey, what say you? Yeah, You're absolutely right. I
- 9:52had Bianca winning because it was the John Cena factor, like until she loses.
- 9:56I just didn't see her losing. I love the finish I have.
- 10:00I've seen I saw the great kabuky do that in like nineteen eighty three,
- 10:03so I love that. It's just a long throwback to the mist on the
- 10:07hands to help get the win. So made a ton of sense. Oscar
- 10:11is a heel, so she has to cheat to win. And then now
- 10:13you get to see if Bianca can rise back with the rank or if they
- 10:16end up flipping her heel. Perhaps maybe at some point m SO tuned.
- 10:20Next match, here's Riha Ripley defeating Natalia to retain the WI Smack to him
- 10:24it's championship. We both at Ria Ripley disappointing match that reflected the bill for
- 10:28this feud very well. As always with a result like this, it'll be
- 10:31interesting if this leads to anything for Riha and Natty. Did not see anything
- 10:35on RAW. We'll see if anything further happens. Just hate to see Nattie
- 10:37get jobbed out like this unless there's some sort of storyline behind it. Yeah,
- 10:41and I hated it because A it makes Natty look bad because you got
- 10:46distracted by Dom and then b doesn't do anything for Rea, Like Ria had
- 10:50to beat Natty really quickly with the help from Dodd, So it's like it
- 10:54doesn't really benefit either person going forward. So just hated it, really really
- 11:00hated it. Next match here is brock Lesnar feeding Cody Rhodes. We both
- 11:05had brock Lessner entertaining match that told the great story. I like where this
- 11:09is heading for Cody Rhodes, and this feud has really been impressive in helping
- 11:13continue to grow Cody as a character, especially following the night after Russellmany people
- 11:18did not like it. I'm liking this, Doctor Trey. Your thoughts,
- 11:22Yeah, I really enjoyed this match, one of Brock's better matches he's had
- 11:24in a while. I love the cast stuff. I love that in the
- 11:28beginning he was trying to fight alarmed, then he realized he could use the
- 11:31cast like it all made a ton of sense and really worked and so great
- 11:35storytelling. And this is what we talk about. Cody has to have obstacles
- 11:39to overcome, and he's got a big one that he has overcome heading into
- 11:43SummerSlam season. And then finally the main event here, Kevin Owens and Sammy
- 11:46Zane defeat Roman Rains and Solo Sitoa to retain the undisputed WE Tag Team Championship.
- 11:52We both had Ko and Sammy get the victory. The finish of this
- 11:54match was really good. The USO's accidentally super kicking Solo the first thing Roman
- 12:00Rain saw to Roman pushing Jay around to these superkicks from Jimmy. It was
- 12:05all very well done, leading to Sammy and Kevin retaining. I officially think
- 12:11Jay usso Met may be the most compelling wrestling character in the entire industry,
- 12:16as he is once again torn when it comes to his relationship with a bloodline.
- 12:20Like Great Match Love, the Finnish Great clothes, compelling stuff. Can't
- 12:26wait to see where this heads on Friday night SmackDown, Doctor Trey. Your
- 12:30thoughts, my friend, Yeah, loved it, Love the entrances. I
- 12:33love Sammy coming out and speaking Arabic. Love the whole match. Loved the
- 12:39finish, Like, this is just great storytelling. And you're right, like,
- 12:41I love that it's Jimmy that turned on Roman and that Jay is torn
- 12:48again, like and he does. He may be one of the top five
- 12:52wrestlers with facial expressions in the business a day. Just great storytelling, great
- 12:58character work. And then you're right. Now, I have to watch SmackDown
- 13:01to add to my collection of wrestling this week to see what happens with the
- 13:03bloodline because of how that match ended. Yeah, it's it's great stuff.
- 13:09You know, I do question, Doctor Trey, is it somewhat too much?
- 13:13Sometimes? Because it was reminiscent of the Sam Musane stuff from the Royal
- 13:18Rumble. But this time Jimmy was siding with Roman, and it wasn't that
- 13:22long ago where you know, Jimmy was on the side of Roman and making
- 13:24them choose, and you know, Roman basically pushed him and his brother around
- 13:30following WrestleMania, Like I do question, is it, like is it too
- 13:33much throwing shit at the wall, But it's just so damn good. They
- 13:37execute it so darned well and it's enjoyable. But I do question, like,
- 13:43like I said, I do question is if it's too much sometimes?
- 13:46And then they still haven't touched on the solo angle of it, with solo
- 13:50actually being Jimmy and Jay's brother. Yeah, yeah, that's another layer to
- 13:54the story that could still take you. My issue was maybe the turnaround time
- 14:00was too quick. Maybe we should have waited another month for this December before
- 14:03pointing the trick has only it's only been yeah, a couple of months as
- 14:07WrestleMania, that's only a couple of months after you know, Sammy did his
- 14:11turn because elimination Chamber was in February. So is it too soon for all
- 14:15of these people's turning against Roman. But hey, empires have to crumble to
- 14:18then get rebuilt someday, So maybe they're like, hey, if we're going
- 14:22to tear it down, let's just tear it down to you know, just
- 14:24the bricks in the mortar. The beauty of this feud and the beauty of
- 14:28that moment at the close of Night of Champions Is it took me back to
- 14:31Helen a Cell twenty twenty when it was Jus versus Roman Rains and Jimmy,
- 14:37who was hurt at the time, came in the ring and that was like
- 14:41the beginning of Jay and Jimmy siding with Roman, and it was like,
- 14:45this is what you should have done a long time ago. Like the storylines
- 14:48has just made sense. And the callbacks even three years later, whether it
- 14:54was intentional or not by de Wust part just it's it's so well written,
- 15:00and I think it's forgotten because the head of creative at the time from w
- 15:05was a different person than it is now with Triple h at the Helm versus
- 15:09Vincent the Helm, even though Bruce Pritchard was someone and you know, heavily
- 15:11involved as well. I just like the callbacks. I like how they tie
- 15:16things up. I like the full circle stuff. I love the fan theories
- 15:20about it, like those are always the cool things about stories that we all
- 15:24see, whether it's for those that are you know, fans of Ted Lasso
- 15:28and that his season just end recently and people are coming up with theories Mandalorian
- 15:33anything, Star Wars, whatever, like fans always make up their own theories,
- 15:37and that's what w has done with his feud. And I don't ever
- 15:41remember a storyline like this where you have fan theories as to what you're seeing
- 15:46and what people are thinking. Like it's it's heavily enjoyable. Yeah, so
- 15:50in your mind, what what is the big what's the payoff? I mean,
- 15:52there's gotta be a one on one match. There's gotta be a payoff,
- 15:54is it? I do? I think the payoff is Jay Usso And
- 16:00I mean this is this is for a story for another day and maybe we
- 16:03talk about it at greater length on next week sins the show, but the
- 16:07stories are out there right now that the plan still is for Cody versus Roman
- 16:11and Wrestlemanning of forty next year, Like that's still the plan. And in
- 16:15my mind, it's like, all right, well, Cody's not going to
- 16:17lose two in a row to Roman and wrestle Maning, Like that's when they
- 16:19when they pull the trigger and we have a new champion, I would think.
- 16:23But um, it's like, you know, I'm starting to think like
- 16:26this could beat the breakout for Juso. I never saw the usos as the
- 16:33Heart Foundation or the Rockers or the Hardy Boys or Edging Christian where one of
- 16:40the two members of the you know, one of the members of that team,
- 16:44legendary team becomes a world champion or a main event player. And I
- 16:49think Jay Usso has that capability. Like the fans, I don't think there's
- 16:55anybody that's more compelling and captivating right now and relatable to the fans and Jay
- 16:59Uso and in any wrestling organization right now. I think the fans are have
- 17:04more close sincere feelings with Jay Usso than any wrestler in the entire company now
- 17:11into all of wrestling. Yeah, and I think the crazy part of as
- 17:14I don't. I think the fans relate to Jay Usso, but they don't
- 17:18know how to feel about Jayuso. Yeah, yeah, ntil will until we
- 17:22see it, right, I mean, Sammy's done it, Jimmy's done it
- 17:25is solo next? When does Jay? Maybe? The compelling storyline here is
- 17:30we were waiting for Sammy to pull the trigger for all the entire time?
- 17:34Is it now? Jay? Is Jay the one that pulls the trigger?
- 17:37And does Jay side with Roman? Tomorrow night on SmackDown, Friday Night on
- 17:41SmackDown and then feuge with his brother for a little bit, and then he
- 17:45in three four months from now, pulls the trigger like what's it going to
- 17:48take? And I think that's where everybody's kind of watch right now. The
- 17:52feeling is very reminiscent of Sammy that Jay eventually turns on Roman, and that
- 17:56reaction from the fans may be bigger than Sammy and Roman from Royal Rumble.
- 18:00So great show overall. I went seven out Dot Trey went six and one.
- 18:06Coming out of the show, I went forty three and fifteen Doctor Troy
- 18:08thirty nine and nineteen. Match of the Night and event rating. I gave
- 18:15nxc xcuse me w Knight of Champions four point one out of five, and
- 18:19I gave Sammy, Sandy, Kevin Owens taking on Roman, Range and soloticoa
- 18:22my Match of the night, Doctor Trey, what say you? I went
- 18:26a little lower. I was three point nine. I thought it was a
- 18:27really solid show. Obviously the finishingly great. The rest stuff kind of pulled
- 18:32it down a little bit for me. My match, I know I did.
- 18:34I went with Gunther and mustaf Ali. I love the crowd for that
- 18:38match. I mean, I mean obviously the main event match. The crowd
- 18:42was really into it. But mustaf Ali getting a chance to shine and then
- 18:47having a great match with Gunther. He power bombed Gunther for crying out loud.
- 18:51That was incredible. So I gave it to Gunther and mustaf Ali for
- 18:55the for match of the night. And I was going to mention this at
- 18:56the top, but I'll mention it now um off until we recap the show.
- 19:00These Saudi Arabia shows are just like a regular wrestling, you know,
- 19:04premium life event. Now, there was a period of time where it just
- 19:07felt like a throwaway. It's like, up, here's the Monsoor match,
- 19:11here's the legend that the Saudi Arabian officials want to see. It's Goldberg versus
- 19:15Undertaker, It's Bray Wyatt versus Goldberger, gets Dax reuniting, It's the Brothers
- 19:21and Destructions. It's a legit show. Now, dout Trey and Propositivity.
- 19:25We for giving us a legit show and not something that's just a throwaway.
- 19:29Not to mention like a couple of things. I know. It is like,
- 19:30hey, they've changed the seatings. Remember early on they had the big
- 19:33giant like throne looking chair, they had like couches. Yeah, yeah,
- 19:37Now, I mean they look like a wrestling show at a strip club.
- 19:41Basically early on it was weird. It looks more like an actual event.
- 19:45And then also we're at a point now they had three women's matches on that
- 19:48show, like how far has this? How far has w become in Saudi
- 19:52Arabia to have three women's matches when we could barely get one early on,
- 19:57we just had three. It was fantastic, Yeah, it was. It
- 20:00was a rat show overall, really enjoyable, and that takes us to Sunday
- 20:04Night now. NXE Battleground recap review of this past Sunny from the Songa Center
- 20:08in Lowe, Massachusetts. First match was west Lee defeating Tyler Bit and Joe
- 20:12Gayzy and a triple threat match to retain the NXCY North American Championship. We
- 20:17both at Joe Gacy such an enjoyable triple threat match. Westlee continues to prove
- 20:21me wrong during the North American Championship title rain. I don't think I've picked
- 20:25him once, suck to try, and I think I should keep it that
- 20:27way. I think Westlee, it would be happy if you stop, if
- 20:33you just kept not picking him to win. I'm mad because typically I always
- 20:37picked Wesley and I didn't because I thought Joe Gayzy really needed to win.
- 20:41It was a great I really enjoyed the match. I don't I don't know
- 20:45about you. I don't know how I feel about Tyler Bate right now.
- 20:48You think about Tyler Bate from now to four years ago when he won the
- 20:51first UK title to where he's at now. I just I don't feel like
- 20:55he's been elevated like. I don't think he's any better now than he was
- 20:59four years In fact, he's probably a stepped down from where he was,
- 21:02so that's a little discerning. Although he does have like the Chris Hemsworth hair
- 21:06and mustatch thing going on right now, he does, he certainly does.
- 21:10Next match. There's no I'm Dard fitting Dragon Lee in a British Rounds Rules
- 21:12match Retaine the NX Heritage Cup. I had Dragon lead, doubt Trey and
- 21:17No i'm Dar. It looks like No I'm Dar has himself a stable now
- 21:19and I'm not sure if the British Rounds Rules match played well to a live
- 21:23US crowd at Battle Brown. I did enjoy these matches in Axe UK,
- 21:26but it didn't seem like the crowd was enjoying it. Doctor Try. I
- 21:30don't think the crowd really knew the rules. You know, we're not like,
- 21:33we're not accustomed to this stuff. And although they put it on screen
- 21:37for the at home audience, I don't really know if they did that for
- 21:40the in ring crowd. So, and they didn't do it on the actual
- 21:45introductions. So I think this is one of the things that people are going
- 21:48to have, much like the all that the Grand Championship they had an impact
- 21:53years ago. You know, it's like it's gonna take a little while for
- 21:56people to really kind of figure it out, figure out how it works,
- 22:00all those things. Because I was still getting kind of lost because I didn't
- 22:03really follow it in NXT or in NXTUK. So even I was like,
- 22:07wait, so if they get two falls, it's over, like, but
- 22:11if it's tied, they don't go to the route like. It was a
- 22:14little bit kind of confusing at first, and you know, so I'm still
- 22:18like, okay, give me another one, give me another one, and
- 22:19then once I get the hang of it, I'll be fine with it.
- 22:22Yeah, it does take a little bit. I think they should have done
- 22:25more of those matches on NXEC television to get fans ready. To be honest,
- 22:29I think there's only one, so yeah, they should have done more
- 22:33heritage cut matches. Elia dragon offf defeats Daijack in a last man standy match.
- 22:37I had Elia dot Trey a Dijack, really good compelling match. I
- 22:41had a great storytelling him. The only thing is I wish they had a
- 22:42little bit more time to play it out. Eli defeats Daijack Doctor Trey.
- 22:48Yeah, I really enjoyed this match. Elia Dragonof was one of like polarizing
- 22:52figures for me when it comes to wrestling because he's so small, but yet
- 22:56he's so freaking brutal. Sometimes I'm like, is that believable? Like,
- 23:02but he's just so entertaining to watch. Um, I don't know about you.
- 23:06Like, but when Djack came out and like pointed out his wife and
- 23:08his kid and told her to like, hey, he doesn't need they don't
- 23:11even see this, I was kind of hoping for an interaction with dragging off
- 23:15with them. But overall, like the brutality of this match man was just
- 23:19second to none, Like those Kendos stick shots in the corner man, it
- 23:22was killer, so I really enjoyed it. I you know, five more
- 23:26minutes of it maybe would have paid off a little bit more. But overall,
- 23:30man, it was a really really fun match to watch and just super
- 23:33brutal. Next matches Gallasafeed and the Creed Brothers to retain an exec Tag Team
- 23:37championship by the Gallast trade the Creed Brothers solid tag match. I would have
- 23:41preferred a different finish than av attack in Ivy Now Nile to distract the Creed
- 23:45Brothers leading to the loss, but they did follow it up on NXEC television
- 23:51the next two nights, Tuesday Night, Gallasafeeds the Creeds out to try.
- 23:56Yeah, this is this is my Westley thing. I'm not picking the Creeds
- 23:59any more. So ye welcome, welcome to the club. Yeah. Just
- 24:03when I get on board with them, then they let me down. So
- 24:07but I do love Gallas. I mean, Gallas reminds me of some of
- 24:08these indie tag teams I see out there, because they don't look like your
- 24:11prototypical WW wrestlers. They just two big, strong, tough guys that just
- 24:15beat the crap out each other. I mean, watching that match, I
- 24:19mean those belly of bellies that Julius was throwing. I'm like, you were
- 24:23not getting a Suplex City reference here, nothing like that. Like he was
- 24:26just tossing those boys around. And that's why I was kind disappointing to finish,
- 24:30because I was like, man, you made Julius look like a star.
- 24:33But then he's the one who took the pin that took the pinfall loss.
- 24:34So um wasn't It wasn't a great fan of the Fish, but the
- 24:38match itself was fine and really fun to watch. And um Like, I'm
- 24:41a huge fan of the Crane, but I'm just not gonna pick them anytime
- 24:45soon. Welcome MAT's how I feel about Wesley. Um, I just completely
- 24:49whiff on all that. Next matches Triffany Strat Tiffany Stratton defeating and liar Lyler
- 24:55Valka VALKILLERI jeez, I can't even say this one. Tiffany Stratton defeating Lyra
- 25:00Valkyrie in the tournament final to win the Vaca Anexy Women's Championship. We both
- 25:03had Tiffany Stratton. The crowd seemed really into this match and or Tiffany.
- 25:08I thought the match was fine and while the Tiffany Stretton character is definitely there.
- 25:12The in ring work is still a step or two behind. If she
- 25:15could put that all together, she'll be a force in WWE for some time.
- 25:18It kind of reminds me of how Jade Cargill has been in AW where
- 25:22you can see the potential but the in ring work is just not there yet,
- 25:27your thoughts ought to try. Yeah, it's it's one of those things.
- 25:32So I mean, this is the w blueprint. Now, it's the
- 25:36Charlotte Flair, It's the Mandy Roadside blueprint for Tiffany Stretton. They love their
- 25:40beautiful blonde bombshells. Like, I thought the match was okay, but this
- 25:45goes to show that Tiffany needs a good dance partner. Like you go back
- 25:48and watch that match with Rock Samperez and she looks fantastic, and Lyra's maybe
- 25:52a step below where Rock sands at and you can see it in the match.
- 25:56Plus like a couple those spots. I just like, I don't think
- 25:59they're done it before, and it just looked like they've never done it before.
- 26:03But I think the choice of putting the title on Tiffany makes the most
- 26:07sense because she's the most likely person to be booed by the fans at some
- 26:10point. Just you know, they like if if they could start a new
- 26:12BFFs, Like, I'd be on board with it. Yeah. You were
- 26:18a couple of people with who was that summer Ray and Sasha Banks? Right
- 26:22the summer Sasha and then Charlish right yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 26:27that was a great early NXT on Dodoy Network group. Um yeah,
- 26:32they got to do something. And did you did you watch Tuesday's NXC No?
- 26:37I had to work, so yeah that sucks the working thing. You
- 26:41know, you gotta pay the bills. Tiffany Stratton's promo not good. I
- 26:45yeah, and in ring live promos have not been great. Behind the scenes
- 26:52interviews with Mackenzie Mitchell or Vignette very good. The in Rings it's almost like
- 26:57she's lost track of like what she's supposed to say at times, Like it's
- 27:02these weird breaks in between. It's it's the Jade Cargill effect for me.
- 27:07In doctory, It's like, you know, this girl could be a star.
- 27:10It's just she's got to put it all together here soon. I mean
- 27:12she's been she's only been in the business less than what two years? And
- 27:18and I don't know who teaches promo class in WW but we don't have a
- 27:22Dusty Rhodes there anymore, no, you know, like that was I mean.
- 27:25And some people are just naturally gifted and talented and some people they really
- 27:29have to work at it. And I think she I think when and I've
- 27:32knows in her live promos like she tends to focus on one subject line that
- 27:36she knows she has a nail, but she will say it like three or
- 27:37four times and it just like, yeah, we get the point, and
- 27:41Jade does kind of the same thing, you know, and then when once
- 27:44that point gets out there, they go all right, now what you know,
- 27:47it just kind of comes off like they're like deer in headlights. But
- 27:49then again, she's she's a blonde, so maybe she just forgets her lines.
- 27:52I don't know. And finally the main event, Carmel Hayes defeats Broun
- 27:56Breaker just retain the NXC Championship. We both Carmelo Hayes good back and forth
- 28:00physical match. Carmelo need this win. It continues show he is for real
- 28:04as the NXC champion. Be interest to see what's next for braun Breaker Doctor
- 28:08Trey Carmela defeats Braun. M Yeah, I'm trying to figure out who's the
- 28:12free agent that they can bring down. I don't know. I mean Braun
- 28:18and Dragon off. I think that'd be fun, I'd be interesting. I
- 28:21don't know. It is is kind of one of those things where like where
- 28:25do you go with him? Do you decide to move him to the main
- 28:26roster heading in the SummerSlam and they can be kind of an attraction like debuting,
- 28:32or do you keep him an exc longer. I think he's proven that
- 28:33he can be a heel and a baby face. It's just where do they
- 28:37see him as a good fit going forward? Because you land him on on
- 28:41Monday, I mean you land him on SmackDown. You know, now,
- 28:45this is the guy that can physically match up with Roman. If you decide
- 28:48to go that way, you put him on Raw, he can physically match
- 28:51up with Gunther for the Innerconhel title. Like, you can go either way
- 28:55with him, just depends on what's the best fit. Or you can leave
- 28:57him an exte for more seasoning as a heel and then try to, you
- 29:00know, rebuild him back up to be another threat. Because now he's owing
- 29:03two against Carmelo, did we interest in what happens with Braun next because because
- 29:07I don't know, because that's always the weird thing about NXC. These former
- 29:11champions. They reach a point where they have the final match for the title,
- 29:15they lose, and then it's like, well, did they get called
- 29:18up? Does he go raw or SmackDown? They just had the draft?
- 29:22Does he say an NXC? If he does, what do you do with
- 29:23him? So interesting times for Braun. Carmelo has somebody that wants to vie
- 29:30for his NXC championship, Dot Trey. As the close of NXC television.
- 29:33Since you did not watch, I will fill you in, and I think
- 29:37you're sitting down to hear this. But Baron Corban made his NXC to return
- 29:42the free agent and he took out Carmelo Hayes to close out this week's edition
- 29:47of NXC Television. After Carmelo retained against no Am Daring the main event,
- 29:52Baron Corban Carmelo Hayes. I guess I could get down with that. Now
- 29:56you're going to fill me in. Now is this happy urban Baron Corban or
- 30:00a lone wolf Baron Corbin? It it looks like it's just Baron Corbin.
- 30:07I guess, no gimmicks, No gimmicks, Baron Corbin, no gimmicks.
- 30:11Yeah, there's your Chris Candido reference. I make it full. Yeah,
- 30:15you know I I do. I don't mind the Baron Corbin moved down because
- 30:19he kind of needs to get out of the main It's kind of the same
- 30:23thing with the Lias, Like he's been buried and beating so much on the
- 30:27main roster. Like, hey, maybe get him out of sight, out
- 30:30of mind for a while, try something different, whatever it is. Uh,
- 30:36just don't make Baron have a brother that we didn't know about. That's
- 30:38a twin. I'll be fine with that as well. Um, it's it's
- 30:42and we've seen it work a little bit for Apollo. We've seen it work
- 30:45in the past with you know, Cesarro and uh t or Tyson kid Like
- 30:52we've seen these work. You know, we saw with Finn Balor. It
- 30:55worked with Finn. So it's a chance to kind of get out of the
- 30:57eye. Get he said, because in a lossie, Baron Corbyn's one of
- 31:00the best heels in professional wrestling. It's just that right now he's kind of
- 31:06missed where nobody takes him seriously as a credible threat. To win a match,
- 31:08and somehow you have to change that narrative in order for him to be
- 31:12successful again. I went four and two, Doctor went Frame three coming out
- 31:17of a forty seven and seventeen tray forty two and twenty two Match of the
- 31:22Night event rating. I gave NXC Battleground a three point five. My match
- 31:26to night was Wesley Tyler, Bate, Joe Gacy, Doctor Trey, What
- 31:30say you? I was three point six. My match to night was Gallus
- 31:34and the Creed Brothers. Because that Julius Creed, I I'm sold on him
- 31:38like that Dud's gonna be sorry. And I told you man, I know,
- 31:41and I like Bruce. My only issue Bruce is he needs a facial
- 31:45hair because he looks like he's an overgrown thirteen year old bold ring. Sure
- 31:48he does. He does from like Ohio or Iowa or something. Maybe they
- 31:52are from Iowa, I don't know. And then finally, aw dolla or
- 31:56nothing. Recap and review this past sign from the T Mobile Arena and Nevada.
- 32:00I guess before we get into this dive of Trey lots stuff going on
- 32:04social media. We mentioned this a couple of weeks ago when we were talking
- 32:07about all In in the UK. I was perplexed because all in the UK
- 32:13was selling Gangbusters sixty five thousand tickets have been sold at this point, and
- 32:17then Doublore Nothing was having a really tough time with their ticket sales, like
- 32:22it was like six hundred and sixty in a three week span that were like
- 32:27sold by Brandon Thurston of Russell Nomics. And then you saw the pictures online.
- 32:32I don't know if you saw them do Trey, but lots of empty
- 32:35seats just really disappointing to see because you know, we want aw to thrive,
- 32:40but that was not a good look at all, and I do believe
- 32:44it's reflective of what they've been put on their television over the last three months.
- 32:47Well, it's also Vegas. I mean in Vegas one of the hardest
- 32:51cities of drawing because you have so much competition. I mean you got to
- 32:53think about I mean WW backed out of the Allegiant Building Stadium. Yeah with
- 33:00the Raiders play. You know, to me, I think you can put
- 33:05Vegas in Miami in the same category when it comes to professional wrestling, where
- 33:08it's like, yeah, if it's the only thing going on in town that
- 33:12night, it'll do a good crowd, but it's Italy. The crowds just
- 33:14aren't into it. They're not that they're just kind of passive, you know,
- 33:20Los Angeles and we do like the Staples Centers occasionally. He's kind of
- 33:22like that too. Some of these like tourist attraction towns don't really draw well.
- 33:30You need kind of those blue collar kind of cities for the crowds to
- 33:32really get behind him. So I put I put some the blame, as
- 33:36you know once again, and the T Mobile Center they help our mouths.
- 33:39And you're going to tell me the T Mobile Center can only draw six and
- 33:43sixty people, like there's some other things going on there, But I really
- 33:45think it's just Vegas on a Memorial Day weekend more than anything else. Just
- 33:50to be clear, it wasn't six hundred and sixty people in attendance oh sold
- 33:53you know, yeah, over like a three week span. It was very
- 33:55very small numbers. First match, you were somebody buying the hard He's in
- 34:00Hook defeat Ethan Page and the Guns in a six man tag team match.
- 34:02Would the win Matt Hardy owns Ethan Page's contract. We both had the Hardies
- 34:07in Hook solid opener and start the show. They will be forever one of
- 34:09the best, but you can start to see that time is catching him to
- 34:13the hardies. Unfortunately, Doctor try Yeah, so does this mean that Ethan
- 34:16Page is in an indentured servants Like, I don't really know what a good
- 34:22guy owns the bad guy's contract. I don't really know what they're gonna have
- 34:25him do. Is he gonna be like put him in the French made out
- 34:27but the hardy compound? I don't know. They didn't follow up it on
- 34:30Wednesday's Dynamite. I guess maybe Friday's rampage, which was unfortunate. Yeah,
- 34:36shocking. They don't follow up on that, but they'll put Hook in the
- 34:37rain to get beat up by the embassy, to have Jungle Boy make the
- 34:40say, hey, you got to reunite Junkle hook Man. Next match,
- 34:45just Orange Cassidy to retain the aw International Championship and a twenty one man Blackjack
- 34:50Battle Royal. I had Orange Cassidy on last week's show. We went back
- 34:54and forth. I was like, I think Powerhouse Hobbs is in it.
- 34:57He wasn't, so I did give Doctor the field. Nonetheless, Orange Cassidy
- 35:01did retain. Battle Royals can sometimes be very formula lake and unoriginal, but
- 35:07I felt like this Battle Royal was not that, and I really enjoyed the
- 35:09finishing minutes with Sweve Strickling and Orange Cassidy. Orange Cassidy remains one of the
- 35:14best champions in all of russ In Right now, Dot, trade your thoughts
- 35:16on the twenty one man Blackshack Battle Royal. By the way, I love
- 35:21swerves look with kind of the cross of being a rapper and then also being
- 35:25embassy. Look like it's like he's a terrorist hip hop star. I love
- 35:29that look for some reason. Yeah, I mean for a Battle Royal.
- 35:32I enjoyed it. I love the finish. The finish, the little half
- 35:35kick to take Swerve out was great. So it's just to me, I'm
- 35:40looking at going like we you have to build like Swerve. Is Swerve really
- 35:45like the only credible challenger right now for the international title? Like I love
- 35:50Orange Cassidy, I love the run, but you've got to learn to build
- 35:53the next level of challengers. I don't think they really do that very well.
- 35:58For the undercards to speak, I think actually Swerve could be the guy
- 36:01that stops the rain. Dot try they're facing off at Wednesday's Dynamite. I'm
- 36:06a fan of Swerve right now. I've enjoyed his run as of late.
- 36:09Yeah, I agree, Like, if you're going to pull the trigger,
- 36:12now's the time. Um. Plus, apparently we're just gonna start by the
- 36:15way, you go back to a jungle hook. Why we can't do hook
- 36:19boys, hook boys? Hook hooker boys? Maybe hooker boys? Yeah?
- 36:25Tweet Tony con that against the gass Boys the hooker Boys. Adam Cole defeats
- 36:30Chris Jericho in an unsanctioned match with Sabo is the special guest enforcer with both
- 36:35at Adam Cole, I felt like this match was a little bit underwhelming and
- 36:38disappointing at some good moments, but overall felt like it missed the mark since
- 36:42there were high helps for the match and it felt like the crowd lost interest
- 36:45as the match went on. To have no idea why Sabo was even announced
- 36:49for this match, because he was in it for like less than five minutes
- 36:52and then wasn't a special guest enforcer. Very strange, but Adam Cole got
- 36:55the victory Dutch tray, he went through a table, he did, he
- 37:00did, God bless him. So that's all the like Tony Goil everything,
- 37:04Tony con said, Hey, we'll pay you some money to go through a
- 37:06table. I don't know how I feel about this match because I didn't hate
- 37:09it, I didn't love it, and then I don't know. I almost
- 37:14feel bad for Chris Jericho right now because it just seems like he's in I'm
- 37:16gonna help, which is not a bad thing. We've talked about Jericho being
- 37:20in women one of the ultimate soldiers in professional wrestling, Like he's like right
- 37:23now, he's just trying to help get everybody else over. But I feel
- 37:29like he's so far down the food chains, like a credible world title challenger.
- 37:32I still think you need him upper of the card and still stealing wins
- 37:37to help keep that just in case you need to pull that trigger again.
- 37:40So like, I'm happy with the match, and Adam Cole needs it because
- 37:44he's just he's back in dude, I just kind of feel bad for Jericho.
- 37:46Yeah, Well, I don't know. I don't know how you can
- 37:49feel bad for Jericho sometimes, man. I mean he's there to put over
- 37:52guys, right yeah, and that's he's done that for the last you know,
- 37:58five years, six years, not just this AUW time, but even
- 38:01at the end of his WW run, he was guying there just to help
- 38:04put guys over, So that's kind of his job now at this point,
- 38:07though, I know, I think he takes pride in it. I think
- 38:08he takes pride. I do. I agree. I guess you're right.
- 38:12I don't know if I feel sorry for him. I just I love when
- 38:14the Jericho characters at the top of the card. Although this was a great
- 38:17featured match, I like when Jericho's in the title picture just because he's so
- 38:22much fun to watch and so much fun to listen to. FTR defeats Jeff
- 38:27Jarret and Jay Lethal to retain the end of a AW World Tag Team Champion,
- 38:30with Mark Briscoes a specially guest referee. Both at FTR solid match.
- 38:34I enjoyed the dynamical Mark brisco Is the referee, and I enjoyed it.
- 38:37I did enjoy how this feud played out. It was good stuff. FTR
- 38:39retains Yeah, and any Like we said earlier, it's hard to believe that
- 38:45the two guys challenging for this match were the two guys fighting Rick Flair his
- 38:49last match. Yeah, it's just it's like, Wow, that's really kind
- 38:52of how we've come through this so far. But I enjoyed it, and
- 38:55you know, like we talked about last week's show, like Jeff Jarret's damn
- 38:59near national track meleasure to be as old as he is and still perform at
- 39:00that lovely was tastic. You know, like, I really don't think with
- 39:07these four guys and then Adam Mark Bresco, you can really have a bad
- 39:09match because there's ultimate professionals when it comes to they're wrestling. Wardlow defeats Christian
- 39:15Cage in a ladder match retain AWT and T Championship with Christian create Cage g
- 39:19in the victory. Good match, Swanton bomb table spot was insane. Arn
- 39:22Anderson biting Luca's source's thumb was bad. Strange trend at this point with outside
- 39:29interference and influence in several double or nothing matches. We saw interference in Adam
- 39:35Cole and Chris Jericho FTR and Jeff Jarrett, and then they did it again
- 39:39with Wardlow and Christian Cage doctor Trey what aw using outside interference and matches No,
- 39:46Like, look, there are times I feel like I'm watching WCW at
- 39:51the end of their run like there's some stuff going on where my guys,
- 39:53you just did outside interference three matches in a row and we haven't even talked
- 39:58about the main of it yet. So is It's like, can't we just
- 40:01like these the fans always talk about they want clean finishes, they want wrestling,
- 40:06and they want true victors, and yet we have all of these outside
- 40:10interference run in spots to make everybody still look strong and nobody loses cleanly.
- 40:15But it's super indie wrestling at times. Speaking of which, Tony Storm defeats
- 40:20Jamie Hayder to win the AWE Women's World Championship. We both had Tony Storm
- 40:23not a great match, lots of again outside interference and influence. Again,
- 40:29felt like this was booked to right Jamie Hayder off due to her injury.
- 40:31If so, props to Jamie if you're getting it out despite battling her.
- 40:35Tony Storm is the new aw Women's World Champion. Doctor try yeah, and
- 40:39maybe the least known person in the outcasts. It's like, really, okay,
- 40:45I mean, if you ask the casual, if you put I think
- 40:46it would be Ruby soho. I gotta be honest. I think she had
- 40:50more main time on WWE. So and if you ask, just if you
- 40:53put the pictures out of the Stormers age, that's Ruby Riot, that's Tony's
- 41:00fair fair fair yep, I would look h to me this This should have
- 41:05been a Sorea spot, like if you're trying to set things up because you
- 41:09know we'll get into another match later, Like, I like, is she
- 41:13to the challenger? Is because Baker looks like she's tied up with Sorea?
- 41:16Like is she to the next challenger for Tony Storm? Like? Is that
- 41:20where we're going? And if so, haven't we kind of already seen Sheta
- 41:23in this title picture? And is Rio missing? Do we need to put
- 41:27out like a milk carton for her? Like? Where at the hell is
- 41:30Rio? She's been that way since the pandemic. Yeah, it's like she's
- 41:32here for a little bit, She's not. House of Black defeat The Acclaimed
- 41:37and Billy Gunn in a open house rules match or retained the aw Trio's championship.
- 41:40We did not put through this match as it was not announced when we
- 41:44recorded. Match started slow but picked up towards the middle fun match. The
- 41:47open house rules match presentation is really simple but great visually. House of Black
- 41:52retained actor try. Yeah. I was confused at first when they said House
- 41:55of Black ants and open house rules, I was like, are they are
- 41:59they selling? Their house? Is the House of Black up for sale?
- 42:01And if you ever been to an open house, they usually have snacks and
- 42:05there was no snacks but fun match and the entire time all I can think
- 42:09about is Buddy Murphy data Alexa Bliss, and now he's dating Rhea Ripley,
- 42:14Like apparently that man has no type because those are total opposite ends of the
- 42:17spectrum. But kudos to Buddy and Murphy for his love life as well.
- 42:22Jade Cargill defeats Tie of Valka retain the to retain the awtb's Championship. We
- 42:28both had Jade Cargill matches a bit of a cluster. If Jay can put
- 42:30it together, she would be one of the biggest women wrestling stars in the
- 42:35game today. It does feel like she may have plateaued in ring wise though
- 42:38Dutch trade. Jade Cargill retained in mismatch. Yeah, Like, if she
- 42:43can ever put together, she'd be the African American trailer flair, Like she
- 42:45has all the athleticism to look at the charisma everything. If she can ever
- 42:50just put it together, it'd be great. Just once again. This kind
- 42:55of it kind of felt like crappy for Tia because it's the Athena, it's
- 43:00the Ruby, soho. It's like, you get these big stars to come
- 43:04in to help la a j but then what do you do with him after?
- 43:07And I don't know about you. I was totally confused by taias staring
- 43:09at the TV on Dynamite. It was totally confused. She's mad at the
- 43:13person who wins the next match. I want to get right into it.
- 43:16Yeah, go right into it. Chris stat Landard feats Jade Cargill to win
- 43:20the AWTBS Championship. We did not predict that. Obviously, nice surprise to
- 43:24see Chris stat Lander back from injury, but even sweeter to see her defeat
- 43:28Jade Cargill to win the AWTVS Championship in a imprompt to match. Stan leanderd
- 43:32has gone through a lot the last two years with multiple torn ACL injuries,
- 43:37and it's nice to see her get some gold in a return as she deserves
- 43:38that. This also protects Jade Carter Giles, she finally lost in an imprompt
- 43:43two match rather than it was booked in advance, and I thought the streak
- 43:46was a little bit stale because I just felt like fans didn't believe in it.
- 43:50Chris stat Lanard is the new TBS champion Dodger Try. Yeah, totally
- 43:53happy for Chris dat Lander. Like, I thought it was a good move
- 43:59because that helped elevate another young talent that is similar to Jade and Tia and
- 44:06build an athleticism. I do miss the alien gimmick full disclosure. I like
- 44:10the booping, but like you said, it's say it spares Jade, it
- 44:16elevates stat Lander, and then, like I said, like Tie is mad
- 44:21because she lost, but the next person one, Like you're making Tie a
- 44:25heel out of this, Like that part of I think the probably the storyline
- 44:30is that Tie a soft and drop for Christallander. Right, yeah, but
- 44:34then you're automatically turning a brand new person heel because of her losing. Like
- 44:40it's like you haven't the crowd Like if if you turn her, the crowd
- 44:45doesn't care because they haven't had time to invest in her one lay or the
- 44:47other. So that's why I don't like that angle going forward, because you're
- 44:52going to turn her and you're not going to get a reaction out of it.
- 44:54I do you feel like tie is a much better heel than a much
- 44:58better heal in a baby face? Yes? I agree. Next match here
- 45:02is MJF defeating Sama Cavara, Darby Allen, and jungle Boy Jack Perry in
- 45:07a four way match to retain the AW World Championship with both at MJF.
- 45:10Really good fatal four away match. Loved a lot of spots in this match,
- 45:14from all three guys team up early on to take out MJF, to
- 45:16the tribute to the mentors, to Jungle Boy toying with using the AW World
- 45:20Championship as a weapon to the finish that made so much sense with mjf's character
- 45:24with the belt on top of jungle Boy, the when Darby was doing the
- 45:30Cascad drop and then doing the head lock takeover a nice callback to their feud.
- 45:37Fun and entertaining match, Doctor Trey, what say you as MJF retains
- 45:40and best entrance of the weekend. Like out of all the shows, I
- 45:45thought MGF had the best entrance. I love the throne, the mask,
- 45:47the people, I loved all that stuff. Match was really really good,
- 45:52But then you leave the question. Now, MJF just beat the other three
- 45:55pillars? What does that mean for the other three pillars? And we saw
- 45:59a little little bit with you know, Jungle Boy and Hook, we saw
- 46:02a little bit with Derby and Staying and Orne Cassidy. So we just gotta
- 46:08figure out what they're doing. Is Sammy next? It's just once again,
- 46:12have you built anybody up to be the next challenger? Like you have to
- 46:15have a plan of succession in line when it comes to building folks. So
- 46:19maybe it's Sammy, you know, maybe they count they circle back to it.
- 46:22But uh, it's great for MJF. It's great for the MJF character.
- 46:25Storytelling was fantastic, But once again, who's next in line? You
- 46:30have to have that kind of thing in mindset and they didn't pay it off
- 46:34on Dynamite, their biggest show of the week. To answer your next in
- 46:37line question, I think it's Adam Cole. The reports out that there was
- 46:40a segment last week on Dynamite between Britt Breaker and MJF that was pre taped
- 46:47that was going to lead towards the seeds being planted for that and they trashed
- 46:53at that point. Um. I think Adam Cole's next in line, and
- 46:58then I think the enter question of this is or the I guess a statement
- 47:02more more or less here is. I felt like Sammy LaVar came out of
- 47:07a feed as a star doctor Trey, like he became a baby face again,
- 47:09like and he was very hateable. Like the baby announcement kind of wrapped
- 47:14up. I'm like, dude, Sammy, is Sammy with JS anymore?
- 47:16Because fans are down with Sammy var again? Yeah, I think in Sammy's
- 47:22one of and I don't know if you agree to Sammy maybe one of the
- 47:24most polarizing people in professional wrestling. Like you either love Sammy or you hate
- 47:30Sammy. There's no middle ground. But as one who was a reviled heel
- 47:37that proposed to his girlfriend in the ring in front of a live audience and
- 47:42the crowd ate it up and kind of turned me baby face for about two
- 47:46weeks. People love happy endings, people love happy news, and it's kind
- 47:51of hard to boo the guy where they come out announced that they're having a
- 47:53baby together. So just thinking about this, in eighteen years, you could
- 47:58have the Tai Conti child battled, the Alexa Bliss child. Oh, stay
- 48:04tuned, Stay tuned for more next match here. This is the main event
- 48:07in Blackpool. Combat Club defeats the Elite and the Anarchy in the arena match.
- 48:13We both at the Elite and victory. Fun match. Love the music
- 48:16playing throughout. I did like Takeshka turning down the Elite and then how about
- 48:21Wheeler you to getting the pin on Kenny Omega and then he followed it up
- 48:24on Wednesday's Dynamite as well. But big for Wheeler Utah to get the pin
- 48:30on Kenny like that was insane. Doctor trade your thoughts outside interference? Oh
- 48:36of course, uh some shenanigans involved. I love. So this reminds me
- 48:40a little bit of Paul Hayman when they gave him right back and they gave
- 48:45him Curtis Curtis Axel back in the day, Like, Hey, we have
- 48:51these guys that we think we go. We just know they need a mouthpiece,
- 48:53you know. And so the pairing of of Don kalis in Takushida can't
- 49:00pronounce his name, that's my liar to Keshka. I love the pairing because
- 49:05ta Kesha's English isn't fantastic, so having and I mean seriously, Don Callis's
- 49:10heat that he got on Wednesday night. It was the most heat I've seen
- 49:15a manager get since the nineties, Like I have never seen a manager get
- 49:20booed that hard and forever. So I loved it, as you know,
- 49:24a lifelong fan of wrestling managers. So and then you too, getting the
- 49:29winds great for him in his career because he can always hold that up and
- 49:30then they can always circle back to at some point like it's let's say keny
- 49:34Omega at some point against the world title, hey Udo can always bring up
- 49:37the fact he pinned him. He deserves the title shot. So I love
- 49:39that it gives that young man some some ammunition down the road when he needs
- 49:44to use it. And then pay per view prediction records I went seven and
- 49:49two, Dot Tree went six and three, closing out the entire weekend,
- 49:52I went fifty four and nineteen. Doctor Trey went forty eight and twenty five.
- 49:57For the year, Match of the Night and event rating, I gave
- 50:00double or nothing any three point six and I gave MJF Samon Cavar At,
- 50:05Darby Allan and Jungle Boy in my Match of the night doubt to try.
- 50:07I was at a three point seven once again, like one of my things
- 50:12on papers, I need a moment where it is memorable that I'm going to
- 50:15remember for five or ten years. I don't think we got that, really.
- 50:19But I also went with the four Pillar match mainly because I loved and
- 50:23Jf's entrance, and I really thought that, like you said, they paid
- 50:27homage to their mentors. You know, you tease a Jungle Boy heel turn
- 50:30if they go that route. At some point, if Jungle Boy turns on
- 50:34hook, I might pop for that, I will say, I will say
- 50:37that, so that'd be kind of cool. I thought that was coming.
- 50:38I really did. And I also thought the Acclaim was going to turn on
- 50:40Daddy ass on Dynamite this past week. That was the second worst promo behind
- 50:47the Tiffany Strand thing, apparently because that Acclaimed believe it made no sense,
- 50:52Like what was the point of this? Yeah, it was like, what
- 50:55is this leading in? Something? Like? It was bizarre, very bizarre,
- 51:00all right, doctor. The big news outside of everything that took place
- 51:04this past week is America's Professional wrestling in America's Nightmare is over as aw Tony
- 51:12Kahn has announced the return of cmpunk to all Elite wrestling will be taking place
- 51:19on Saturday Night Collision June seventeenth from the United c that are in Chicago,
- 51:22Illinois. The back and forth of Willie Ever Wrestle again, the issues with
- 51:28AW buying the scenes, the Instagram post story, NDA's the brawlout, suspensions,
- 51:37torn triceps, John Moxley being mad. It's over essentially until he gets
- 51:45buying the scenes and maybe another brawl out happens. But we have heard for
- 51:50the first time since September twenty twenty two, Cmpunk's name uttered another. There's
- 51:54been other times, but I guess for actual stakes in the game. See
- 52:00him Punk uttered on AW television and returning to the ring acknowledgement from the announcers,
- 52:08your thoughts see him Punk is back, by the way, So when
- 52:13you saw it when they went to the live announced table after they made the
- 52:15announcement, I think Tony Shivanni hate see him Punk, Like he looked disgusted,
- 52:22almost like he's sold it, like excuse me, Like he sold it
- 52:24like he was like, hey, it's great news. It's the greatest night
- 52:28in the history of our business. But you can just see him almost like
- 52:30rolling his eyes. Well, I was like, it'll be interesting how he
- 52:34comes back as he baby face or heel. I also thought it was very
- 52:37awkward the way that Tony Conn did it. Who is just Lord love him,
- 52:40but he's just very awkward on television. He reminds me of like the
- 52:45kid who has to give a book report and does not like standing in front
- 52:47of the classroom. Oh it's terrible pretapes like where's the guy that was on
- 52:52Impact Wrestling in twenty twenty? Oh yeah, I mean, but then again,
- 52:54like it's easy to be a heel, it's hard to be likable,
- 52:57that's true, But then again, is this not one of the most anti
- 53:01climactic big news type thing Like I don't really like to have the big announcement
- 53:09that we're having collision and then was it a week later, two weeks later,
- 53:15I don't know the exact timeline, but to have a pre taped announcement
- 53:19during the middle of Dynamites that hey, we're just happy to announce that CM
- 53:23punk will be a collisions, Like, man, you could have made that
- 53:27way grander And maybe it's their way of kind of test and still poking CM
- 53:34Punk And I don't know about you. That crowd was split. It was
- 53:37they said it was sixty forty. I read online that a lot of fans
- 53:40and attendance were like sixty forty in favor of Punk, and you gotta figure
- 53:45that's gonna be that way and unless it's Chicago, and then like, what
- 53:50does this do to the Dynamite ratings? I mean, because they still have
- 53:53not announced if it's a brand split or we're going to have people on bullshow,
- 53:57like what we're gonna do? Like if that CM Punk show, are
- 54:01the punk fans gonna not watch Dynamite out of loyalty to punk and vice versa?
- 54:07Like is that actual? Actually don't doubt that. I don't think it's
- 54:09as cultish as it was, like you know, two three years ago when
- 54:13he was coming back, and you know, cultish when he was away from
- 54:17wrestling all this time. I think I think the majority of fans don't side
- 54:23with what he did, right Like you and I are big sampunk stands,
- 54:29and I don't agree with what he did during that press comment. So I
- 54:32think you don't air that dirty laundry out following all out like that. Yeah,
- 54:38no, that I agree with, But then again, I still like
- 54:40I still hold to that my blame for that whole situation is don't be gone
- 54:45agree agree, But Sony just stood there like a goof and just making a
- 54:51happy face and nodding his head in agreement. So yeah, I don't think
- 54:54he what he did was the right thing to do. But like it,
- 54:58you know, like you just said, if the crowd, if the live
- 55:00crowd and a neutral city is split, sixty forty, Now Chicago crowd is
- 55:05gonna be like all about it. But you know if if a live crowd
- 55:08in neutral city sixty forty are like, what are the fans at home?
- 55:13Like are they sixty forty? And some people may not watch it just because
- 55:15they dislike everything that happens. So I don't know they need him back,
- 55:21like it's clear his day they need him. But like I hate to say
- 55:24that, but it's the truth. Like AW television has not been great like
- 55:30double or nothing was. It was a solid show, but it was disappointing
- 55:35on the AW standards. Yeah, you expect a lot more excitement, a
- 55:38lot more buzz, a lot better in ringwork. The multiple like outside interferences
- 55:45was laughable throughout the show. It's just creatively there's been something missing from AW
- 55:52for a long time, and I think having seen him punk back. There
- 55:55is gonna help at least that's my hope. Yeah. I just look at
- 56:00like to have that announcement at that point of the show, and the way
- 56:05it was done, it was weird. It was and it's so like an
- 56:08can't do a Yeah, you can't do a vignette. No. He comes
- 56:13out to the ring for every other big news event he does, but he
- 56:15does a pre tape on this. He's been doing the pre tapes lately though
- 56:19he's a busy man. He's trying to move the job wards. I just
- 56:22think that they know that it's really strange when he gets on the screen,
- 56:24like did you see his announcement about the owen Hart Cup, like and them
- 56:29going to Canada? No, I missed that one, dear God. Like
- 56:32so when he announced the dates and I don't know if it was for Collision
- 56:37or the owen Hart Cup or mixture of both. I don't remember, but
- 56:40he said Regina, which is a city in Canada, and you could hear
- 56:45the crowd laughing, like I don't There was just like emphasis on him saying
- 56:50Regina, Like it was like, dude, Like I like Tony con I
- 56:53appreciate everything he's done. With aw dude talk work like the hugs, his
- 57:00delivery on stuff. I feel like he hit like fifteen and then that was
- 57:06it, Like he stopped at fifteen in his life, like the age of
- 57:08fifteen, like over emphasizing red giants like it's a funny word, you know,
- 57:13and then just that awkward smile like I'll tell you right now if if
- 57:17I opened up my window and that face was smiling at me I when I'm
- 57:21calling the cops, Like it's just kind of a creepy, odd look he
- 57:25presents. And as much as we used to hate on Vince, like when
- 57:30Vince was on TV, it was compelling television, whether it going back to
- 57:36his announcing days or the mister McMahon character or any other iteration of him,
- 57:39Like I don't know if there's anybody else that's been in a leadership role.
- 57:43And this goes back to the beginning. Remember in the beginning, they didn't
- 57:45want Tony on TV at all. Oh rightfully so, and Tony's on TV
- 57:50every week now, so it's kind of like again that delivery, and it's
- 57:53like and at the debut episode, will be see him punk like you almost
- 57:57if you blink you miss it it's like, wait, you say punk and
- 58:00then they cut to the crowd like you can't even have a bill towards that
- 58:05and joining us for his return to the company at AW Collision in his hometown
- 58:10of Chicago, Illinois, is the former two time AW World champion c M
- 58:16Punk. Like, really, you just like and it's gonna be Cempunk.
- 58:22Maybe it's a maybe it's a fake cmpunk. Maybe he's learning from the vince
- 58:25Rest. Yeah, it could be see him Hunk, see him monk dunk.
- 58:31Oh god, if I don't see an indie show guy, do c
- 58:35M Monk and he actually comes out like Friar Tuck with a straight edged with
- 58:39a straight edge of fist, wrist tapes and stuff. Oh my god,
- 58:44that's gonna be. That's if I can get that somebody to do that gimmick.
- 58:47I think I could actually retire happy. I mean I did. I
- 58:50did get a gimmick called the blue Waffle over at his shows. Stay tuned,
- 58:54folks, stay tuned. U. That will do it. For this
- 58:57week's session, the podcast A lots to talking about and Punk on the upcoming
- 59:00editions of the pod. I am sure. Well that said, let's get
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- 59:44kind of figure out where the show's going with all the results in action that
- 59:47happened. By the way, just want to throw out like best wishes to
- 59:52Chase Owens, who is actually injured his knee at Wrestling Con and is going
- 59:55to be out of action for a few weeks. As he recovers from his
- 59:59knee. It's upbreak for one of the nicest guys I've met in pro wrestling.
- 1:00:02So get well soon, Chase, if you're listening, and if you
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