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- 0:01Hello everyone, and welcome to Honey Badger Radio. My name is Brian with
- 0:04Alison and I don't know. There's a weird like delay when Alison's camera pops
- 0:10up. It could be a video ninja problem, but you're there. No,
- 0:13no, it popped up as soon as you started waving. Maybe you
- 0:16did. And this is fed, pilled and moisturized zero one. I don't
- 0:24know if this is gonna be a new series of shows, but we're just
- 0:27a joke, a one off joke. Yeah, guess it depends on I
- 0:31guess it depends on the Department of Homeland Security. I guess we're being There
- 0:36is nothing funny about the Department of Homeland Security. Nothing. They never joke,
- 0:42just the facts. Man, serious people, absolutely, they are the
- 0:48most serious people. Are you kidding me? Yeah? Okay, all right,
- 0:53So I guess I could give you guys a background on this. I
- 0:57got an individual and I won't say his name. Is it one of our
- 1:02one of our members or supporters, because I don't know the story either,
- 1:06So I'll say S. I'll call him S. S sent me an email
- 1:12with this attached, and this is the latest Department of Homeland Security report.
- 1:19It is another one from Diverting Hate. I believe Diverting Hate is the organization
- 1:26that's being funded by the Department of Homeland Security. So this is the Diverting
- 1:30Hate is the authors of this Department of Homeland Security report, and it is
- 1:37misogyny, extremism, the manosphere and mainstream social media, which does have I
- 1:42suppose applicability to us, because we are often considered manosphere adjacent, shall we
- 1:49say, in so far as we talk about men's issues. And this is
- 1:52the bi annual report, so the two of these come out a year apparently
- 1:56from Diverting Hate, and this is the March twenty four report, Volume three,
- 2:01so I'm guessing that each volume has two and we're on the third volume.
- 2:07So this is this is definitely an ongoing issue, an ongoing concern,
- 2:10shall we say? This project is funded by the US Department of Homeland Securities
- 2:15Center for Prevention Programs and Partnerships Opportunity. All, Okay, that's just some
- 2:22bureaucrat ease. After that, we exist to create a world where all people
- 2:25can be safe from misogyny. Thank God. Are tax your tax dollars at
- 2:31work? Guys, taxpayer dollars aporized. Do you feel moisturized. I'm feeling
- 2:37moisturized. I'm very lubricated, lubricated by this. Ready to be diverged.
- 2:45Yeah, ready, ready to be diverged. Okay, so do you have
- 2:50the actual report up? So again, thank you, I'm displaying it right
- 2:53now. Thank you to S for sending this through s as in Satan.
- 3:00Oh, I'm just kiddings. Obviously it's the patriarchy, so it must be
- 3:04safely. Obviously it's some member of the patriarchy that sent us this. And
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- 3:25So feed the Badger dot com slash just the tip. Now that's out of
- 3:30the way. Where should we begin with this? Well, let's look at
- 3:34the table of contents. Shout out to the Rumble Gang. By the way,
- 3:37I gave a link to Becks. She's ban on YouTube, but she
- 3:39said she would be watching on Rumble so if you are there, I'm acknowledging
- 3:45you. All right, So let's look at the table of contents. I
- 3:50learned about this and grammar school. Table of contents is important. It's how
- 3:53you find where to go. Oh, so I think on accidentally on Safari.
- 4:00So if I have any issues, just tell me and I will move
- 4:03over to Are there issues with Safari and Video Ninja? Well maybe it's maybe
- 4:09it's Riverside's not video Ninja kiss? Oh yeah, so far no see.
- 4:14Video Ninja was made by a guy who really wanted to like give people a
- 4:18place where they can talk to each other during COVID, and so he did
- 4:21it for free, so it works. If you had to pay for it,
- 4:27there could be problems. But this was free and it works, so
- 4:30obviously, Like, yeah, it was a guy who just really wanted this
- 4:34to work. It's almost like when a man want sets his mind to doing
- 4:38something excellent, he doesn't mmm anyway, Kate, all right, So table
- 4:43of contents, we've got a we got like a a Schmorgasborg of exciting items.
- 4:48Yeah. Introduction Executive Summary, Section one, Growth Growth of Online male
- 4:55Supremacy, Male Supremacy Scale, a YouTube case study and review of three evolving
- 5:00trends. Stop simping, how misogynistic influencers humiliate women to discourage sympathy, Passport
- 5:08Bros Rise, the disparagement of the modern woman and the rise of tradwives hitting
- 5:14the Wall, and the pervasive sexualization of younger and underage women. More than
- 5:19Seasonal Solitude exploring the impact of the holiday season on in cells iss dehumanizing language
- 5:27on Getter, who the hell's on? Getter? Exploring an overlooked corner of
- 5:30the mano sphere. Okay, did you imagine if they actually turn this lens
- 5:36on that gigantic industry, ideological industry that's currently an entire academic sphere, you
- 5:46know, and influencing government and do do things like ignore the male victims of
- 5:54female rapists like you yeah, Like what have these guys done that in any
- 6:00way compares to marry Costs and her shenanigans. Well, these people are panicking
- 6:10because they're losing. Like I watched today, it was like a two and
- 6:15a half hour, I think discussion on Tenant Media, which I think is
- 6:21owned by Timpole or at least is like partly a founder of it. And
- 6:28they had four women who were all at least claimed to be non feminist women
- 6:33having a discussion about marriage and divorce and so on. It was like Pearl
- 6:39Davis, Lauren Chen, Rachel Wilson, and somebody else. I'm sorry,
- 6:44I don't remember your name. And it was a fascinating to watch because I
- 6:47mean, they had disagreements, Like Pearl was, you know, kind of
- 6:51like sparring with Lauren Chen a lot. But I thought it was good and
- 6:56necessary to see that. And meanwhile on the floor of the floor of the
- 7:02Congress, like it was like AOC and like two other Senate members were just
- 7:08hurling caddy insults at each other and calling each other names. Just look,
- 7:15this is the level of discourse when it comes to women in the political power
- 7:17versus women that are just interested in a particular topic. But I think the
- 7:23panic is is that even women are starting to come around on this and they're
- 7:28starting to talk about and I know people in the comments are gonna throw rage
- 7:31at me because they really want women to be completely irredeemable. But the whole
- 7:35purpose of Honey Badger Radio is to basically invite women to be a part of
- 7:41the solution. So if there are women that are participating in it. It
- 7:45is a win, full stop. Okay, it doesn't mean that it's over,
- 7:48it's I'm saying, yeah exactly, But I think it was because there
- 7:51are people, like I said, in that discussion, at least Pearl and
- 7:58Rachel Wilson were definitely like trying to hold women's feet to the fire. And
- 8:03at the end they were like, you know what, maybe what needs to
- 8:05happen is that women have to hold other women accountable and we have to stop
- 8:09blaming men. That was what they concluded. Now will it mean anything,
- 8:15I don't know, But the point is the discussion is happening. This is
- 8:18all I ever wanted from the moment I got involved, was for people outside
- 8:22of us to start talking about it. And it is starting to happen,
- 8:26and this is good. But it means that we can't stop. And it
- 8:28also means that if I know about it, just because I like, I'm
- 8:33on YouTube sometimes like watching I don't even watch Temple regularly, but I came
- 8:37across it. If I know about it, then the Department of Homeland Security
- 8:41definitely knows about it. So this but what they're doing is is what I
- 8:46think they're doing. So I'm speculating here, what they're doing is they know
- 8:50it's a problem that people are starting to question the cathedral, which is essentially
- 8:54what feminism is a part of. In fact, it's probably the foundation for
- 9:00or everything else that the cathedral symbolizes. And it begins with that questioning,
- 9:07like what is the situation between men and women? Why is it the way
- 9:11it is? Can what should be done about it? And this is what
- 9:15they fear the most. They fear people communicating with each other and sharing information.
- 9:20It would rather we be cheering for AOC or mergery Taylor Green hurling caddy
- 9:26insults at each other on the floor of Congress, rather than looking at what
- 9:30like for regular ask women that just make online content are discussing on like another
- 9:35you know, in another in alternatate media, so and I can see.
- 9:39And what they're doing is they're trying to direct your attention to what the men
- 9:45are doing. Because if we notice that women are having conversations with people like
- 9:48you, people like Karen, people like Hannah, it's too dangerous because it
- 9:52means that women are interested. And what we need to do is we need
- 9:56to focus on what men are doing. And you could tell how how absolutely
- 10:00flaccid their arguments are because when you look at what they're bringing up, the
- 10:03evolving trends, stop simping. So what does that? I mean, how
- 10:09is that bad? Like for you know what I mean, it's nothing wrong
- 10:13with men being able to essentially assert themselves, you know, state their boundaries,
- 10:20give things to women, Yeah, and decide not to just give things
- 10:24to women unilaterally with exactly exactly stop simping. But they're trying to make it
- 10:31into something more sinister when they say how misogynistic influencers humiliate women to discourage sympathy.
- 10:37No, that's not what it is. It's literally stop simping. Like
- 10:41you guys know, simping has to stop. It should be illegal, like
- 10:45there should be penalties, okay, because it is destroying men and women.
- 10:50Like it's like, simping is how we got to where we are now,
- 10:54Like you know what I mean, Passport bros. Rise Literally men decide I
- 11:00think I'm just gonna leave the country. They're trying to make this into something
- 11:03sinister. How the disparagement of the modern woman and the rise of tradwives.
- 11:09What does that even have to do with passport pros? See and again,
- 11:13you know they're trying to find anything that they can grasp onto. But the
- 11:18purpose of this is to terrify women and to inspire essentially white knights, white
- 11:24knight men with the one good man to step up and stop this from happening,
- 11:30because the only way that feminism can get anything done to stop the patriarchy
- 11:37is to appeal to patriarchy. And then there's hitting the wall and present pervasive
- 11:41sexualization of younger and underage women. Again, this is very gross and misleading
- 11:48because hitting the wall does not mean you're a pedophile, but that's what they're
- 11:52suggesting. So you have to look at what they're saying and then what they're
- 11:54suggesting, because what they want to do is correlate two things that are not
- 12:00the same. Passport bros and tradwives are not related. Passport bros are men
- 12:05saying women in the West are you know, their materialistic cunts. I'm gonna
- 12:09go to Thailand or the Philippines or fucking Russia and I'm gonna find myself a
- 12:16woman that is more like, it's gonna be nice to me. It's essentially
- 12:20what it is right. Whether or not that works out for them, that's
- 12:24another question. But the it's their business if they want to go to another
- 12:26country. But they're trying to problematize that. In fact, they're trying to
- 12:31pathologize that. So and the reason is because they are losing I think they're
- 12:37losing their grip on the narrative. I think that our talking points are getting
- 12:39out there. Okay, So the uh more than seasonal solitude during the impact
- 12:46from the holiday season on insuls, do I dehumanizing language? Okay, we
- 12:50already did that, so sectioned, Yeah, I don't who's on getter is?
- 12:54This wasn't the logo for that, like a torch or something. I
- 12:58don't even know what is that. I remember Getter was was a Twitter alternative.
- 13:01Basically all the Twitter alternatives are dead because Elon Musk bought Twitter and that
- 13:07was it Forgetter. I mean gab is probably I don't know, I don't
- 13:09use it, but gab is probably still doing. Okay. True social is
- 13:13basically dead. Yes, I know it's Trump's thing, but the only reason
- 13:16why anyone's on there is because he's on there. So Section two Real impact
- 13:22in the normalization of violent misogyny and harmful masculinity from hate online to violence offline
- 13:28gen z shift, How a younger generation is influenced by the menisphere, an
- 13:31empathy driven lens to online misogyny see again z the gen Z drift, the
- 13:39gen Z shift. They talked about that on the Timpoole thing, and Temple
- 13:43was trying to say, look, men are moving was it Zoomers are moving
- 13:46for the right and zoomer women are moving further left. No, zoomer men
- 13:52are moving slightly right, like they're just kind of coming towards the center more.
- 13:58But women women are going way Yeah, they're going way out there,
- 14:03like basically what they what they One of the things that they talked about was
- 14:07that younger men are more. Younger men are going back to Like what's interesting
- 14:16is that that that younger men are getting involved or getting interested in uh Christianity,
- 14:20Like it's making a comeback for younger men, and that there's like,
- 14:24especially in Catholic and Orthodox and Lutheran denominations, there's a lot of men coming
- 14:28back to the church, but women are going to Wicca and you know,
- 14:33Tarot and and and all this all this like feminists like you know, I
- 14:37am the Servant of Lilith type stuff. So and I'm not saying that's the
- 14:41cause, but it gives you an idea of like the diverging. There is
- 14:46a divergence, but men are basically like around the same level. Women are
- 14:52the ones that have gone like off the rails. So when when they say
- 14:56this, when they what is it the gen Z shift, they are basically
- 15:00problematizing the fact that men are becoming a little bit more reasonable. That's it,
- 15:05That's really it. I wouldn't even say that they're becoming conservative per se.
- 15:09I think that they're just like raining in the crazy from the millennial generation
- 15:15of men. Oh yeah, so Section three key actors and the holistic approached
- 15:20the manisphere. I think they missed. They think they're missing a verb.
- 15:24They're analyzing the complex role of very large online platforms and mitigating misogynist narratives.
- 15:30Our take ways to protecting, ways to protecting the people and the work,
- 15:35Oh the work. That is literally communist language. When you say doing the
- 15:39work is literally kami shit. But go ahead, it's to protecting this ways
- 15:45to protecting. Yeah, this is this is this is this is gobbledygook,
- 15:50this is commy gobbledygook. It's word craft, it's magic. These are serious
- 15:54people. How men's wellness orgs can meet men in the manisphere, Oh my
- 16:00god, interventions right, stop them, they're they're they're thinking about marrying women
- 16:07and having children and buying a house. That can't be allowed. In conversation
- 16:11with Will Adolphi, author of the upcoming book Beyond the Manisphere, Why I
- 16:15Took the Red Pill and How I Broke Free? This should that should be
- 16:19interesting because we could we could we could look at that. Yeah, we
- 16:22could look at that, and that's the end. Right judge whether or not
- 16:26he's being honest about him having taken it. Yeah, I have I have
- 16:30a feeling a fee that's a little bit exaggerated. Shall we say? All
- 16:34right, let's say, okay, do you want to we have some let's
- 16:38let's pick up something. But let's do we got like at least a super
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- 18:03Hey, Brian, glad to hear that you're sounding better. And Alison,
- 18:07how's your book coming along? Well? Thank you? And Alis you should
- 18:11I answer that question? Okay, Yes, I have finally cracked the code
- 18:17of the first chapter because I was struggling. Oh no, yes, I
- 18:21was struggling. It's taken probably a year and a half to actually figure out
- 18:26how to approach starting the book now, that is actually one of the most
- 18:30difficult parts ending and starting actually starting is the most difficult part, followed by
- 18:36ending. So I mean it is actually substantial. Is a big leap forward.
- 18:41However, that's also necessitated some changes in the structure of the book going
- 18:45forward. But I'm getting there. I'm getting there, But it was it
- 18:48was a slog like there is a lot of things. People don't realize this,
- 18:52but writing is difficult, writing, especially writing fiction, which is why
- 18:59we have so many lovely journalists who basically write fiction in their articles because they
- 19:03can't make it as fiction writers. But yeah, so it's actually there's a
- 19:07lot of skills that you have to master and they're quite difficult, and there's
- 19:11it's almost all intuitive, so you just have to bang your head against the
- 19:15wall until you get it. Maybe some people are much better at it than
- 19:18I am right off the bat, But like I did need to get some
- 19:21skill set, so I've got more of them. I won't say I have
- 19:25them all, but I'm getting there. Thank you all again for helping me
- 19:29get the editor that has been a big help in improving my writing. Who
- 19:33knew, you know, like getting an editor helps your writing, somebody who
- 19:37can coach you along and to develop the skills necessary to write. But again,
- 19:42thank you all everybody who supported me in that I am making progress.
- 19:47I know there's not a lot to show now, but you know how it
- 19:49is with a big endeavor, often it's two steps back, three steps forward,
- 19:53and I feel like I've taken those three steps forward. I also,
- 19:56while on the topic of books, I just want to give a shout out
- 20:00to yul Qui who got me two books from my list that I have on
- 20:06Amazon. One is The Collapse of Complex Societies and the other is Questioning Collapse,
- 20:11which is a series of essays. So this is basically a dialogue.
- 20:17This is the original, this is the criticism of the original, and I'm
- 20:21very much looking forward to reading this and bringing you all whatever insights come from
- 20:26those books. So thank you yl Qui. Very much appreciated. And shall
- 20:32we go to the next one. Yeah, the next one is for five
- 20:34dollars excuse me four from small Token for Brian's voice. He says, the
- 20:41best software tools are made by a guy who has a singular vision. Yeah,
- 20:45I think smaller teams are tending to be better, and thank you.
- 20:48And then I got one more. I think that's the last one, super
- 20:52Chow. But this is a big one. This is fifty dollars. Thank
- 20:55you so much. Show from Macho Man Shark, America's handsomest virgin gives us
- 21:03fifty bucks. That says nothing interesting to say, so I'll just leave you
- 21:06with the N word thirty seven times, mostly lowercase, except for every prime
- 21:11numbered one, which is in all caps. Also, last time I sent
- 21:14one of these, you didn't read my subtitle, which is outrage. Please
- 21:18fix this error or I will cry. Well, let me look at your
- 21:21Maybe it didn't show up in my feed. No, I don't see it.
- 21:25Here. Is there a subtitle on the No, okay, well I
- 21:30don't see one I have, Macho man Shark. You are terrified me because
- 21:34I'm almost certain I did not put a subtitle field in the comment in the
- 21:41comment system, so I know that there is a place where you can put
- 21:44your name, which you have obviously used because macho man Shark, it's not
- 21:48exactly the default. And also there is a comment field. But I am
- 21:53almost certain there is absolutely no subtitle field. Okay, well, she says,
- 22:00so, so it must be true. We also too, Oh good,
- 22:03we got one from re r E. I so thank you, thank
- 22:08you. I just showed. I just showed that moved to Lindsay for the
- 22:18first time. Last night, we watched Wayne's World. She never seen it
- 22:22before, and I hadn't seen it in years. You know what, I
- 22:25haven't. She fell asleep right when the credits started, so she kind of
- 22:30missed the credits. It's like a little there's some extra scenes during the credits.
- 22:33I haven't asked her about it. I mean she's in the other room.
- 22:37I'll ask her or later at what she thought, but I mean she
- 22:38got she got some laughs out of it. I also showed her The Blues
- 22:41Brothers like a few days before, and I had seen The Blues Brothers in
- 22:45a long time, and she really liked that movie. She was like,
- 22:48oh, you know what, that's that movie is really cute. So uh
- 22:51yeah, I like I like. I like Wayne's World. You know the
- 22:56Philip No, the Mystery Nazis. No, No, No, Illinois Nazis.
- 23:00That's that's the that's the Illinois Nazis. That's that's from Louis Brothers.
- 23:04Yeah, that's so. It's so silly, but it's great. Lots of
- 23:11good cameos in that one too. All right. Anyway, Uh so you
- 23:14want to go to the up the beyond the Manisphere. Guy, I'm wondering
- 23:18if we should do be responsible and look at the introduction and the executive summary
- 23:23first. Oh fine, okay, yeah, so introduction. Do you want
- 23:30to read it? Because you got I mean, I'm I'm almost it.
- 23:33You make me feel bad, so maybe okay, all right, then you
- 23:37go ahead and read it. Yeah, it's not the best at reading,
- 23:38but I will do my best. In our vision, we seek to advance
- 23:45a world where all people can be safe from misogyny. Oh good grief,
- 23:51but not missing jury. That that's just that's I'm sorry, but that I
- 23:55gotta I gotta say this is an impossible goal. Like they're literally laying out
- 24:02the impossible like they might as well say. Our vision is to advance a
- 24:07world where everyone has access to infinite amounts of ice cream, whatever flavor you
- 24:14want, and you never get fat or get diabetes. And we're going to
- 24:18get there. It's right around the Connects Court and this is going to get
- 24:22funded by the fucking government. On top of that, something this retarded eating
- 24:26misogyny is like, this is whatever women think it is. Well, you
- 24:30know you eventually you will go through menopause and lose your fertility. Well,
- 24:33that will become misogyny. Yes, what men would prefer to have a partner
- 24:37who's younger and physically fit, that will become misogyny. Like literally, any
- 24:44any position of accepting the idea that men have preferences and the right to consent
- 24:52to sexual activity will become misogyny like that. I mean, look at look
- 24:56at look at this side's attitude to words literal rape when when women do it,
- 25:03like and they are part of the ideological side that basically said, well
- 25:08merry cosse, Well when women force men to have success sess I would surprise
- 25:15sex, we can't consider that to be rape. We will call it something
- 25:19else because we can't consider that to be an issue of a lack of consent
- 25:26on the part of the man. He just received pre uh preapproved no sex,
- 25:36he didn't know he wanted when he had it, And yeah, like
- 25:40that, that kind of rhetoric, that kind of logic is on their side.
- 25:44Now when that's on their side. When you're on a side that removes
- 25:48the idea of sexual consent of the other side, what the hell are you
- 25:52talking about when you talk about misogyny. I mean, when you're basically making
- 25:57it illegitimate for men have preferences, sexual preferences and say the word no,
- 26:04and you are talking about that being misogyny, Because this is where we're at,
- 26:08right they basically say, well, the only reason a man would say
- 26:11no to a woman was because he's a fat phobic, lookist, racist,
- 26:17agist, and the rhetic rhetoric is there. So when you're on the side
- 26:22that categorically removes consent from the other side, I don't think you have a
- 26:27you have really a position to talk about hatred, especially when hatred is apparently
- 26:34I don't want to have sex with fat women. You see what I'm getting
- 26:37at, Like, I have a preference, I have a sexual preference.
- 26:41I have the right to say yes or no. That is considered hatred by
- 26:45these people. And uh, I don't know that that's that's that's a fight.
- 26:52I don't know if they really want them to win anyway. Okay,
- 26:56through applied research and applied technolog God, that's just corporate speech. Why we
- 27:02exist. I'm just gonna skip over the corporate's beak. For vulnerable men struggling
- 27:07with loneliness, low self esteem, and a variety of other risk factors,
- 27:11finding an online space where their troubles are validated is a beacon of hope.
- 27:18God, these people are sinister. Often they are welcomed into a community of
- 27:21like minded men uniting under economy common enemy usually women, and giving a prescription
- 27:26for the successful realization for men of manhood. And it's okay to have entire
- 27:33academic sphere devoted to making men out to be the villains. You know,
- 27:41this should be read by someone either doing like a fake German accent like Klaus
- 27:47Schwab or Emperor Palpatine from Star Wars. I could see him giving a speech
- 27:52where he's like, for vulnerable men struggling with loneliness, low self esteem and
- 27:57a variety of other risk factors, is finding on online space where that troubles
- 28:03validated is a beacon of hope. I am God and deformed. I mean,
- 28:15so it's like, you know, like where you're trying to be charismatic,
- 28:18but the evil is just like bleeding through. But like, honestly,
- 28:23okay, so are uniting under a common enemy, usually women. Okay,
- 28:30so what is the whole narrative? Men oppressed women? We live in a
- 28:33patriarchy that privileges men over women. Men are complicit and constructing a rape culture
- 28:40in which they use rape to keep women in a state of fear in order
- 28:44to enact their diabolical ends. What's all that rhetoric? Hey, and how
- 28:49come we pay women to exist in little enclaves spouting these things back and forth
- 28:56like that's acceptable, that's fine, that's perfectly fine. Oh, because for
- 29:02some reason we think that it's true, even though it's never actually been proven.
- 29:07All of this men oppress women never actually been proven, never even been
- 29:12presented in such a way that it could be proven, which means that it
- 29:15was some kind of causal statement that could be proven true or false, never
- 29:19even presented in that we haven't even taken the first baby step towards proving this
- 29:25conjecture, this assumption about how men and women relate, the first baby step,
- 29:29And we have entire swaths of the academic landscape devoted to women and men
- 29:37who agree with them, whispering back and forth about how men are the enemy.
- 29:41But that's okay, that pressure that entire endeavor is being placing on society,
- 29:48like taking away any recognition of the value of masculinity. That that's okay,
- 29:52we don't have to look at that. But if in response some men
- 29:57form enclaves where they're like, hey, it sucks to be subject to this
- 30:03society wide threat narrative against us, then the government's like, Nope, you
- 30:07can't do that. That's evil, that's wrong. Oh good lord, And
- 30:14I was actually when you began here, I was gonna say that you talked
- 30:18about the cathedral and feminism being the basis of the cathedral. I think what's
- 30:22the basis of the cathedral is this idea. It's like a power narrative which
- 30:26grants power over men, over the identities that men have, their expectations for
- 30:33themselves, their willingness to adhere to self sacrifice in order to benefit the greater
- 30:41society. They want power over that, and feminism gives them power over that.
- 30:45It's as simple as that. It doesn't actually empower women. Its greatest
- 30:48effect is to grant control, grant institutional control over men. So yeah,
- 30:56this is why they're focused on this, This is why they're focused on and
- 31:00also why they're most concerned about women getting you know, shucking the oak,
- 31:03because if women stop doing this, the institutions that rely on men being submitting
- 31:11themselves morally to this narrative are screwed. And they know it. That's why
- 31:17they're calling all this terrorism when it's patently not. Like I know, I
- 31:22you know, I know I've been labeled a terrorists in the past, but
- 31:26I'm not a terrorist at least I don't think I am. I don't I
- 31:30actually have I actually have a dread fear of harming people, so you know,
- 31:38it's it. But but but people like me get labeled that because we
- 31:44question the power narrative of the cathedral. Did Do you get what I'm saying,
- 31:49Brian, Yeah, of course. Yeah. Well yeah, because it's
- 31:52useful because they always project, they always accuse you of the thing that they
- 31:56do or they would like to do. So they accuse you because they know
- 32:00that what they want to do is wrong, but they still want to do
- 32:04it. So instead they try to redirect attention by accusing you of being the
- 32:07terrorist or me or or us by association, which is really what they're doing
- 32:13here. That you find, like the worst actors, you exaggerate their crimes
- 32:19and then you paint a whole everyone that you disagree with with the same color
- 32:25of the strong man that you've created. So in this reality, the seemingly
- 32:30promising community known as the Manisphere pray on this demographic for the indoctrination of radical
- 32:37ideas, infusing hate and violence into their daily lives. Oh by the way,
- 32:42guys, yeah, I'm infusing radical. I think that there's like masculine,
- 32:45seemingly promising. We know really what they're doing. We can read their
- 32:50minds, we know exactly what they're doing. I think masculinity has value,
- 32:54and I don't believe that men oppress women. That's radical. Governments and businesses
- 33:00struggle with how to stop online misogyny. The government is hindered by political constraints
- 33:06and inconsistent resourcing, while businesses profit off of these engagement models. Despite their
- 33:12efforts to combat online hate, the opposition remains insufficient, and technology platforms continue
- 33:16to be fertile ground for such ideologies to take root and spread. Instead of
- 33:22merely addressing the symptoms of these issues, we believe it necessitates a text based
- 33:27solution to address this fundamentally technological issue. Our technology and applied research solutions have
- 33:32paved a healthier path for young men before it's too late. So you know
- 33:37why they say this is a take based solution to address a fundamentally technological issue.
- 33:43You know what that means. That means we no longer control information,
- 33:49and now this is a problem for us because we had a specific world that
- 33:53we were painting for you, you know, like the shadows in the cave,
- 33:59you know, like we were the shadows and now you're they're leaving because
- 34:02some people have said, hey, this is not really what's going on,
- 34:07and now we're like, oh, this is a technological problem. It's an
- 34:09obstacle. No, you're lying and we're exposing it. That's all it is.
- 34:15Yeah, like you're lying to us about reality. Your power narrative hasn't
- 34:21even gone through the first baby step of being proven correct. Right, you
- 34:27have applied it everywhere, like it is. Our entire culture, our entire
- 34:31civilization is drenched in the idea that men opress women, and yet again hasn't
- 34:37even done the first baby step of being proven true or false. We haven't
- 34:40even started. We haven't even started to investigate it as a legitimate concept.
- 34:45I mean, that's the thing. It's like a feminists will say, whoa
- 34:47could you prove it false? I'm like, well, I'm not even going
- 34:51to begin until you can tell me how you prove it true or false?
- 34:54How like do the first damn step, which you haven't even done, and
- 34:59I can't. I want to repeat this over and over and over again.
- 35:02This narrative is illegitimate. It is incorrect. Well, okay, actually it's
- 35:09not even incorrect because we haven't even got to the point of determining whether it's
- 35:15a correct or incorrect. Are determining how to do that, and for how
- 35:22many generations we've been laboring under effectively it Well, let me put it this
- 35:27way. When I create a causal statement to prove this conjecture of menipress women,
- 35:34it comes out false false false false false false false. I'm doing the
- 35:39work. I'm doing the work that should have been done before this was ever
- 35:44asserted by the first professor ever asserted ever a glimmer in anyone's mind. They
- 35:50should have done the work to turn this into a causal statement that could be
- 35:52tested. But they didn't. You know why, because they know if they
- 35:57test it false false false false false all the way down, So they just
- 36:04ignore that and they try to chuck and jive around it. And what really
- 36:08pisss me off is the lies. Okay, all right, oh listen,
- 36:15the next sections I think are really dumb. Okay, you want to go
- 36:20back to the table of contents, so executive summary, I'll go ahead.
- 36:24I'm the surfacing positive male influencers, so people know who to avoid, I
- 36:30mean obviously. Oh uh so you take yeah, yeah, yeah, well
- 36:35I mean whatever like that again. The photograph, this is TDS. Okay.
- 36:42The TDS is when someone mentions Trump's name and people's brains turn off and
- 36:46all they can think of is, like nothing matters except stopping the Orange man.
- 36:51Andrew Tait is being used in these exact same way. And this is
- 36:53the thing I'm trying to like get across the people. It's not about him,
- 36:59it's a He is a symbol. He is a symbol of what they
- 37:02hate. It is any man, any man who is comfortable with his masculinity,
- 37:07that does not apologize, that does not simp, that basically puts his
- 37:12needs first, that is okay with being a man. So this image is
- 37:16supposed to trigger you, Like they literally don't even have his name, they
- 37:21just have the picture. You're supposed to be emotionally affected by this. Do
- 37:24not allow yourself to be affected by this. Do not allow it. So
- 37:29just ignore this because this is used as a tool to make you react.
- 37:34Okay, let it go. It doesn't matter who that is, because if
- 37:37it wasn't him, it would be a picture of Ralloh, it'd be a
- 37:40picture of fucking like it could be Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson. It wouldn't
- 37:46matter. It wouldn't matter. So's He's just a symbol. They don't really
- 37:51know the guy, just like they don't know Trump. They're just affected by
- 37:53him emotionally, and they think everyone else should be affected by him in the
- 37:57same way. And he stands for what they think. Like the way that
- 38:01they represent this guy is it image. Look at this image and imagine what
- 38:07he's hiding. So peel him back. I see who they really don't want
- 38:12you to listen to, right who they want you to listen to, which
- 38:16may actually be our voice might be there, Karen's Voice, a Voice for
- 38:21Men, the Center for Men and Families, all of the people who are
- 38:25trying to bring services for men and compassion for men. They really don't want
- 38:29you to see that people are actually trying to develop strategies for men to develop
- 38:35positive relationships in their lives. Warren Ferrell don't want you to see these people,
- 38:38Cassie j the red pill. They don't want you to see that beyond
- 38:43because this is exactly that they put this exactly. It's just TDS your eyes,
- 38:47it's just TDS under another name. It's it's Tate deringement syndrome. And
- 38:52then they have a tweet here. I can't see what it says. I
- 38:57can zoom in a little bit that'll help. No, no, no,
- 39:00no, no, no no no, let's not even mention that. Oh
- 39:02okay, okay, it's it's the unmentionable. But let's look at if you
- 39:07can zoom in on the positive male influencers. Yeah, I'm looking at it.
- 39:12So we actually kind of went over some of these the last time we
- 39:15covered this. Okay, So fishing, yeah, fishing the good fight.
- 39:21That's kind of weird. Should be fishing the good fish. The men's circle.
- 39:25I don't know what this little feather thing is. I can't see.
- 39:28It's small man enough, men living pensive. Maybe that's what this is.
- 39:35Maybe this is one thing mankind project visible man, every man, man alive
- 39:43and Mahogany. I think I think that's what it says. It's all like
- 39:50essentially, why is focus on like having man in the in the title?
- 39:54Yeah, they think, you know, it's funny because they think that men
- 39:57are like women in that way, like they can create. I wonder if
- 40:01these are not sort of like exact copies of similar women's groups and they actually
- 40:08use the same kind of tools and the same approaches that women's groups use,
- 40:15and and I think that they don't realize if this doesn't really attract men generally,
- 40:20I mean some men, but not generally. We should go and look
- 40:24at our competitors, because I believe the men enough people are supposedly the people
- 40:30are supposed to replace us. There are fetivers. Oh really, they're the
- 40:34They're the pultrip parallel universe evil twins. Yes, okay, all right,
- 40:39or we're the evil twin. They're the good twin according to this. You
- 40:44want you want to look them up? Are they on here? Or yeah?
- 40:46Yeah, I sent you a link to the podcast. It's in your
- 40:49DMS. Slid into your damns with did you just did you just send it?
- 40:53No, it's a little bit late. It's probably a few days ago.
- 40:58I could resend it, but I gotta scroll back. Bit scroll the
- 41:00buds, ye, scrolling, scrolling. Oh we are man enough. I
- 41:07see it is that we are man enough. Okay, yes, all right,
- 41:09I got it right here? You all right? And let me share
- 41:13this. Oh it's a YouTube channel too, Yeah, it's a YouTube channel.
- 41:17Look at how clean cut they are. Oh my god, look at
- 41:21how attractive. Oh you know what I think I've looked at I think I've
- 41:24looked at this before. They're straight up like intersectional feminist, uh content,
- 41:31It's like straight up intersectional because I remember like this, you know, the
- 41:37black guy constantly pulling like his race card on this guy because you know that's
- 41:40healthy, that's not defsive. I'm just and the woman pulling her card on
- 41:46both of them. Yeah, really really nice what I want to see,
- 41:50right, Yeah, that's exactly what I want to see playing games essentially a
- 41:54conversation but just playing just playing like identity Blackjack again to each other. That's
- 42:01definitely, I mean, that's what it is though, Like it's just you
- 42:07know, they're they're they're smiling and laughing, but they probably hate each other.
- 42:15Do you want I don't, I don't. We could you know what
- 42:16you want to go through the videos? Don't see what the titles I have.
- 42:20No, No, let's let's just leave that. Let's leave it for
- 42:22another day. We could we could do that another day. We could look
- 42:24at it. Yeah, day. I'm Matthew Hussey on nice Guys finishing last
- 42:30and who should pay on the first date? While really tackling the hard hitting,
- 42:34deep issues that men are really concerned with today, right right on the
- 42:37cutting edge of relationships. Who's paying for the dates? This is okay?
- 42:45I'm just oh my god, how many you have to have a really high
- 42:47IQ to appreciate that we are man enough channel like at least at least one
- 42:52hundred and forty IQ. You gotta pay, you gotta pass the mensis.
- 42:55If you want to get what they're coming from, you got to pick up
- 42:58what they're putting down. You gotta like just really, you know, crush
- 43:01it. I'm sorry, No, It's it's fine, it's it's it's a
- 43:07little aggravating. But I'm dying on the inside outs and I'm dying on the
- 43:10inside. That's why my voice is going her way dead. My soul is
- 43:15like slipping away, slipping right out of my asshole. Okay, or is
- 43:21that just the fart? I don't know, you know what, Let's get
- 43:27I feel like, where should I go. Let's get to the scale of
- 43:30online misogyny. The growth of online male supremacy. This one Section one.
- 43:37All right, here we go. All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna read
- 43:38it, folks, I'm gonna give your voice arrest. Section one, Growth
- 43:43of online male supremacy. This comprehensive analysis delves delves into the concerning influence of
- 43:50the Manisphere across different online platforms, focusing on YouTube in cells, Dot I
- 43:54s and get Her get Her again. No, okay, I need to
- 44:01a swish. It's just it's it's just a Twitter competitor that came out like
- 44:07a long time ago, like twenty seventeen or twenty eighteen. Well, because
- 44:13they don't have enough. No, I think it's because Getter probably has like
- 44:19a different concentration of people that better fits. Like if they knew Minds dot
- 44:23Com existed, they probably have Minds on the list, you know. But
- 44:28Getter was when Getter came into pruition, I think Twitter was still owned by
- 44:31Jack Dorsey, but Twitter was basically paused, like no one with any dissenting
- 44:38views could be on Twitter until Elon Musk bought it, and even then some
- 44:43people can make the argument that they're still not quite you know, enough voices
- 44:46on there. But Getter was competition, and then Gab came and then Trump
- 44:52made truth social. I'm not sure if it was in that order. It
- 44:54was something like that or no, Gab was first, then Getter than Truth.
- 44:59But now that Twitter is sort of like back in swing, all those
- 45:02other sites are losing. I think they're like less popular than they were.
- 45:07Maybe maybe Gav is still thinking. I don't know, I've been on there
- 45:10in a long, long term. All right, well, thank you for
- 45:14the for the history of just saying get Her is just another Twitter, that's
- 45:17all it is. The examination of YouTube reveals a lucrative trend where influencers profit
- 45:22from misogynistic content, flowing a strategic formula that includes I'm going to start a
- 45:29new challenge and it's just called get back in the kitchen. That's gonna be
- 45:31my new channel to disseminate anti feminist ideologies TikTok content. So I'm assuming they're
- 45:37talking about all of the rabbid misentry and TikTok. Oh my god, leveraging
- 45:44TikTok content the meals like one one recent video that I saw TikTok video this
- 45:51is This is one that's been doing the rounds. This woman invited a man
- 45:53over basically told him that he's not getting any sacks. When he didn't pursue
- 45:58her for sex, she got upset and called them gay. Is that is
- 46:01that the misogynist? Like is people responding to that to call her a freaking
- 46:07child? Misogynistic? All right? The Male Supremacy Scale case study on YouTube
- 46:12influencers demonstrates the scale's effectiveness and asserting and assessing and targeting diversion strategies. This
- 46:21exploration extends to off mainstream platforms like INCEL, dot i S and Getter,
- 46:25uncovering heightened lonelinesses during holidays and insell form and forums, and the prevalence of
- 46:30far right ideologies intertwined with menace your concepts on Getter. Overall, the research
- 46:36underscores the urgent need to address the propagation of misogynistic narratives and extremist viewpoints within
- 46:42the manisphere, emphasizing the importance of targeted interventions and understanding the dynamics across various
- 46:47platforms oh, good lord. Ideological problems with this. Yeah, this is
- 46:55a bunch of gobbledegook. M hm, this is the this is the attempt.
- 47:00Well, this is this is this is lazy ideologue speak forgive us money,
- 47:05but we're going to do nothing. I like how they're like talk Okay,
- 47:07they talk about uh insuls Is and Getter uncovering heightened loneliness during holidays and
- 47:15insol forums and the prevalence of far right ideologies intertwined with manisphere concepts on Getter.
- 47:22So is there is there nothing wrong? Is there? Like a problem
- 47:24with heightened loneliness during holidays causes men to be up in pain and then they
- 47:31go and they say, well, why do people not care about my pain?
- 47:37And then people are like, well, because you're a man, and
- 47:38then that now they're going down the rabbit hole of red. Men might have
- 47:45ish. So if people are telling them, well, fuck you, you're
- 47:46a man, isn't that the problem? Like not the Well I guess,
- 47:52I guess I'm gonna go where I'm going to get some understanding or sympathy or
- 47:58compassion, no or just yeah, because like I said at the beginning,
- 48:01before we even see this, when we were just in the back room.
- 48:06These people, these are is an ideologically possessed group that wants men to that
- 48:12wants men to continue to choose the box with nothing in it, no positive
- 48:16identity, nothing but shame and blame for the for the problems of society.
- 48:22The only identity these people have for men is the identity of garbage can.
- 48:28For all of the problems and flaws identified by in society, you can be
- 48:34a garbage can. That's that's what they're offering. And the fact is that
- 48:38they've promoted this so much that women are now turning away from relationships or men
- 48:44because they think that they're a poor choice. And the loneliness is on the
- 48:49increase, and men feel more and more alienated from society, from women,
- 48:52from their own families, and all of that is increasing because of these narratives.
- 48:57These are the people who want to push these narratives, but they don't
- 49:00have to deal with the consequences, and they're doing so in a landscape that
- 49:04they control less and less of. And that's what's it, all right.
- 49:08The Male Supremacy Scale, let me just go up here. The Male Supremacy
- 49:15Scale a YouTube case study together with a polarization and Extremist Extremism Research and Innovation
- 49:21Lab per Peril, peril we need. It sounds like a woman tied to
- 49:28the train tracks, like you know, yeah, do you remember the intro
- 49:31to Uh Dudley do Right the cartoon show where Dudley do Right's writing on the
- 49:37back of he's a mounty on the back of the He's like writing backwards.
- 49:40And the villain. I don't even remember the villain's name. It was just
- 49:44like a guy in a top hat with a flash No, that was from
- 49:46Wacky Races, unless it's the same guy, but he he's like the villain.
- 49:52He ties the girl to the train tracks. That's what I when I
- 49:54see the word peril, that's what I think of. I think of a
- 49:57woman on the train tracks. You guys, progressive guys, Yeah, really
- 50:00really American University, we conducted a case study to investigate the viability of executing
- 50:07effects. It was Dick Dastardly. I think it was Dick Dastardly, that
- 50:09was his name. I aimed at a range of male supremacist YouTube influencers who
- 50:15are prominent within the manisphere, the male supremacy scale. Okay, we're here's
- 50:19the money shot. Let's do it? Developed by Pasha Dashguard, the director
- 50:23of research at Peril. Okay, how do I take this seriously? These
- 50:32are the people with the finger on the nuke by the way, guys,
- 50:35that's that's yeah, seriously, they are clowns dressed in rainbow rigs with wigs
- 50:40with honky noses on the damn nuke button. Uh if naughty. If you're
- 50:46watching this, please make that the thumbnail. I want like a clown like
- 50:52at the behind the the like in some kind of like you know, what
- 50:57do you call it? Panic room with like buttons? Yeah, nuclear button?
- 51:00Yeah, with like a map of the world. Understand, define and
- 51:05quantify the phenomenon of contemporary male supremacy, specifically in the context of online platforms,
- 51:12employing a mixed methods research design Dashguard blah blah blah, who cares.
- 51:15The Male Supremacy Scale is a fifteen item scale to measure male supremacy, broken
- 51:21into three subscales. Anti feminism because feminism is equi of course, dishonesty and
- 51:29relationships and women like alphas. Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait
- 51:32wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait. So anti feminism, which is
- 51:37not unique to men and feminism is essentially an unproven cult, and if you
- 51:45just don't subscribe to it, that's that's not just one of the subscales.
- 51:47That's like the first one. Then female dishonesty in relationships like that doesn't happen,
- 51:53like women never lie, and then women like alphas, like that's not
- 51:59true, like women don't have preferences, Like these are just anti reality categories.
- 52:06It's okay, I'm sorry, go ahead, do the reversal. Let
- 52:07me do the reversal. Okay, let's imagine we had the fetiverse targeting women
- 52:16with this shit. The Female Supremacy Scale is a fifteen item scale to measure
- 52:22female supremacy, broken into three sub scales patriarchy theory, male dishonesty, and
- 52:30relationships, and men like thin women, young women, yeah, young women,
- 52:36young thin women like literally this is oh no, how dare yeah?
- 52:39Yeah, like this is a joke. The idea that people are just pointing
- 52:44out that women have preferences is somehow misogyny. What about all this rhetoric like
- 52:51you could go on TikTok and just you can't swing a cat without finding some
- 52:55woman who's like, uh, I am the table. What do you bring
- 52:59to the yeah, well you got to bring you know, like, what
- 53:01do you think that I choose the bear? Yeah? Exactly, Oh god.
- 53:08Anti feminism explores how the participant feels about feminism and feminists in general,
- 53:15and more specific more specifically, the role feminism has in society. Well,
- 53:21I guess we're we're in the crosshairs here, Yeah, for sure. Honesty
- 53:23in relationships highlights the view that women are not able to be faithful in relationship
- 53:29and are by nature dishonest. No, no, but no, it means
- 53:34sometimes they are. And also it means that our society supports and incentivizes dishonestly.
- 53:40Right yeah, right, Here they're saying that the recognition that women are
- 53:45dishonest is somehow terrorism like that, you know, and that they're that's what
- 53:50they're groping for and that's why they have all this peril and terror and violent
- 53:54extremism. They're basically saying, well, if you think women can cheat,
- 53:59you cheat, lie, eat hot chip you know like that, that then
- 54:05you are a terrorist. So if you have the belief that there's anything negative,
- 54:09like, it's not even just that, okay, it is literally women
- 54:15are capable of doing bad things. Yeah, Paul, Believing that and recognizing
- 54:22that terrorism. That's what this is what's happening in this document. But women
- 54:30like alphas is based on hypergamy and the values that men of the manisphere project
- 54:35onto women and determinants of the participant feels that women are only interested in high
- 54:39status masculine men. I mean, if they're not, then let's wait.
- 54:46Let's see where the women are that are not proving this, Like I don't
- 54:52it's not even like it's hilarious, like none of them itself. It's so
- 54:55stupid. This is so stupid, Like look at none of this is prescript
- 55:00even it's just the manisphere literally men saying this is how it is. That's
- 55:05mostly what it is. Like even when they say here's how you should act,
- 55:08the most men are not going to be able to follow that advice through,
- 55:13right, So like when the I don't know, like say some of
- 55:16these like red Peel guys say you know, you should sleep with as many
- 55:19women as you can. I mean you could say that's bad advice, but
- 55:23most men, even if they were to follow the advice, would likely not
- 55:28be successful because of women, because women ultimately yet to say yes or no.
- 55:34So like when men know this is what women like are and they're telling
- 55:37you like when you when they rate themselves, attend, when they say what
- 55:42they want out of a man like that, they're just you don't even need
- 55:45a Manisphere guy to tell you this. You can just look on the internet
- 55:49at what women are saying. Yeah, you just look at what women are
- 55:52telling you. You know, really astounding is that this is you look at
- 55:57the sea of TikTok saying. Women's saying these things. They want masculine men,
- 56:01they want high status men. They want men they are the table.
- 56:05Therefore men have to bring things to the table, right. They want to
- 56:10be able to cheat, and men should just deal with it. You know,
- 56:14have children that aren't the mans, and the man just needs to deal
- 56:19with it. All of this. You can see TikTok presenting all of this
- 56:22content and they're saying that someone turning around and saying, hey, look at
- 56:28that is terrorism. Look at all the content that women are pretting out saying
- 56:34these things. That's terrorism. Recognizing what women are doing is terrorism. Application
- 56:42of the male supremacy scale. The manifestation of male supremacy online combines principles derived
- 56:47from a broad network of male supremacists. What the manifest what a male supremacists
- 56:54website, websites, blogs, forums, and communities commonly referred to as a
- 56:59manisphere. Are you suggesting that this is like an organized effort. Yeah,
- 57:05we're all working together this okay, So you are blaming the manisphere for being
- 57:10you a government taxpayer funded GROUPNGA NGO are pointing to the Manisphere and saying they're
- 57:21organized, are you? Oh? Currently, online platforms face a binary choice
- 57:28when dealing with content that offers potential pathways to online radicalization. Either shut down
- 57:34the offending account or ignore it. Diverting hate offers a third option to encourage
- 57:38lasting changes through platform infrastructure by instead exposing at risk users to alternative, positive
- 57:45content, positive by their determination. So, in other words, we're not
- 57:51going to focus on the loneliness, we're not going to focus on recognizing what
- 57:53women are. Actually we just we just want to continue to push you know,
- 57:59men, you get the empty box full of blame and shame. Yeah,
- 58:01it's basically we're going to maintain the status quo of who gives a shit
- 58:05about men? They don't have problems, move on, protect women, give
- 58:08money to women, keep women single so that they can do to vote for
- 58:12us that's it, like like like there cannot be a healthy, productive relationship
- 58:21and cooperative relationship between men and women. It just can't happen because then the
- 58:24NGOs they lose their money, Like they're doing this to validate themselves, and
- 58:30they're losing because they wouldn't need to do this otherwise they know this is having
- 58:35effect in order to test this methodology. We worked along blah blah blah.
- 58:38This is they're not testing this methodology. They're just they're creating a scale and
- 58:44then rating people on the It's the most absurd. This is the science.
- 58:50Can I read the next part? I want to look at this. Okay,
- 58:52the scale, I'm just going to jump to this part. Yeah,
- 58:53yeah, that part. The scale has fifteen items across the three sub scales.
- 58:59Anti feminine Number one. Feminism is about hating men, Yes it is.
- 59:02Number two, modern society prioritizes women over men, Yes it does.
- 59:07Feminists are number three. Feminists are unattractive, not always, but I mean
- 59:12sometimes that's yeah, that's not relevant. Is that like, is that like
- 59:15the more extreme? Because are you like scaling this because these are subscales,
- 59:21So if feminists are unattractive, more severe than feminism is about hating men in
- 59:25your mind, because sounds like you're taking that awfully personal. I mean,
- 59:31I mean number four, women use feminism to gain an unfair advantage over men.
- 59:36Yes they do. Actually they don't even really have to. Women can
- 59:39just like appeal to men without feminism to gain unfair advantage. But feminism is
- 59:45helpful to feminism helpful on an institutional level. Yeah, on an institutional level.
- 59:50Of course. What they would say is that it's not unfair advantage because
- 59:52it's correcting the inequalities that we've never really proven exist. Yes, not in
- 59:59uh, without corresponding responsibilities, so of a balance of rights and responsibilities versus
- 1:00:06just disenfranchisement for no reason. And feminists are seeking to control you are seeking
- 1:00:12to control men in this document. Well, I'm not doing this thing that
- 1:00:20I am currently doing. No, you are, indeed, so, yeah,
- 1:00:22feminists, I mean it is it's obvious. Then. The second category,
- 1:00:28the second scale is female dishonesty in relationships. Six. If a man
- 1:00:31commits to a woman in a romantic relationship, she gets the upper hand.
- 1:00:37Uh, that happens. I mean just yeah, just like pointing that out
- 1:00:40is not it's not a dig on women. It's just a fact. Number
- 1:00:45seven in a relation, Well, like people will if if he if he
- 1:00:49engages in domestic violence against her, they will, you know, she'll have
- 1:00:52more social support, more people intervening, more institutional support than the reverse.
- 1:00:58I mean, I want to say that domestic violence is on the upper hand,
- 1:01:01but there is a certain amount of concern the back of the hand.
- 1:01:06Yeah, I'm just kiddous. Concern that's given to women and not to men.
- 1:01:10And for example, just using one example, a man who is battered
- 1:01:15by a woman is more likely to go to jail than the woman who's battering
- 1:01:19him. And we have statistics to prove this. Like, what's really annoying
- 1:01:22is we got statistics to back up all of the assertions in opposition to what
- 1:01:25they're saying, and they just ignore it because it's not convenient to their power
- 1:01:30narrative. All right, let's keep this. Yeah, number seven in a
- 1:01:35relationship, women are less trustworthy than men. You know, these are like
- 1:01:39I mean maybe there women are more empowered to be less trustworthy. Yeah.
- 1:01:45Yeah, we're going to cape for them constantly, right exactly, And I
- 1:01:51mean among them are women, like what is how many videos are there of
- 1:01:54women telling other women how they could manipulate their men in their life and like
- 1:02:00get over on them, and that they had to see the relationship as as
- 1:02:04combative and competitive and about a power struggle. I mean, I've been sex
- 1:02:08to get pregnant men. Yeah, I've been in relationships where the women I
- 1:02:14was dating thought that relationships were a power struggle the whole time, and that
- 1:02:17they always had to feel like they had the upper hand, like that they
- 1:02:22were less emotionally invested than I was. And I didn't get it at the
- 1:02:25time. I thought it was strange, but when I look back, it
- 1:02:29was like, oh, obviously they were. They wanted to make sure that
- 1:02:31they always cared a little bit less than me because they didn't want to be
- 1:02:35heard. So like, what is what is that? It's not a problem
- 1:02:39with trust, you know? And maybe it's because not only are women less
- 1:02:44trustworthy themselves, but they're also less trusting they have less faith in men,
- 1:02:49So it makes them want to be more deceitful because they want to maintain a
- 1:02:53kind of like a degree of control over their own emotions, so they use
- 1:02:59it on men. And that happens because women are taught to see men as
- 1:03:04like something that they want to be close to, but also, yes,
- 1:03:07at any moment, their enemy. So like, why wouldn't it create like
- 1:03:12some serious cognitive dissonance in women and a desire for them to be combative.
- 1:03:16Men in romantic relationships need to be constantly on guard for cheating. Well,
- 1:03:21that's that's just seven reiterated in a different way. Women have a biological drive
- 1:03:25to cheat on their partners. Again, this is this is manipulative. Yeah,
- 1:03:30you're just reiterating it again, But you're also being a bit disingenuous.
- 1:03:34Women are hypergamus is all this really means. And that's generally true, and
- 1:03:40it doesn't have to be, but it is generally true. Number ten,
- 1:03:44you can't trust women to be faithful in relationships. You're just repeating yourself,
- 1:03:47Like that's like seven, eight, nine, and ten are all the same.
- 1:03:52Stupid, You're just creating categories because you got to get that check.
- 1:03:57Yet, are we gonna look at these the anti men narratives? How about
- 1:04:01men are more likely to rape, which is not true as far as I
- 1:04:05can tell. I'm slightly more maybe depending on the instrument you look at,
- 1:04:13But there's no reason to believe that rape is gendered. And yet we gender
- 1:04:16it. Men are more likely to abuse. There's absolutely no reason to believe
- 1:04:20that. Yet we do that too, We gender it. We put that
- 1:04:23on men. Men want to oppress their partners. They want to they want
- 1:04:28to cheat their partners somehow. They want to get more out of the relationship
- 1:04:31than the women give. That's constant, and it's everywhere, this idea that
- 1:04:34the men are constantly getting something from women when they're in romantic relationships with them.
- 1:04:40That's like a mainstream attitude. Is it going to be on this chart?
- 1:04:44No? And here's the other thing, Like, you can make the
- 1:04:46biological argument for women cheating, and you can make the biological argument for men
- 1:04:50cheating. But when it comes down to it, what matters is that people
- 1:04:57respect each other and care about each other in a relationship. Yeah, okay,
- 1:05:02I mean I've argued with guys who are like, oh, what,
- 1:05:05men should be able to cheat? I'm like, well, but well,
- 1:05:09well then you just made a biological argument for why women should be able to
- 1:05:13cheat. Because if you are saying that men should be able to cheat because
- 1:05:16men need variety, well then why shouldn't women be able to cheat because women
- 1:05:20want the best sperm? How about we all treat each other with respect.
- 1:05:26So, but you could have you could have seven, eight, nine,
- 1:05:28and ten and have it all relate to a feminist discourse. In a relationship,
- 1:05:32men are less trustworthy than women. Women in romantic relationships need to be
- 1:05:38constantly on guard for cheating. Men have a biological drive to cheat on their
- 1:05:42partners. You can't trust men to be faithful in relationships. You hear this
- 1:05:46constantly. Yep, if a man, if a woman commits to a man
- 1:05:53in a romantic relationship, he gets the upper hand. There's a huge amount
- 1:05:57of feminist discourse around that that men get. What is it a sex doll,
- 1:06:03a sandwich maker, a washing machine, and somebody who's gonna wait on
- 1:06:09him hand and first and foot? And what does she get? Nothing like?
- 1:06:13That's a constant refrain. Yep. But no, we're not gonna look
- 1:06:16at that. We're not gonna look at that. Why is that just a
- 1:06:21free action? All right? All right? Next one, next second?
- 1:06:26Women like Alpha's eleven women are biologically driven to seek out the highest status man
- 1:06:30possible. Again, this sounds like there is a relationship between that and the
- 1:06:33previous category. But I get it. You gotta like, you gotta come
- 1:06:36up with fifteen things. You know, It's sort of like when you were
- 1:06:40in high school and you got an assignment to do an essay and they were
- 1:06:44like, there has to be six hundred words, and so you just end
- 1:06:45up like putting in a bunch of filler words, so you meet the minimum,
- 1:06:49but you just you don't say a lot. That's what it seems like.
- 1:06:53This is so lame. By the way, guys, if you're watching
- 1:06:56this and you're wondering why it's in a vertical format, there is also a
- 1:07:01normal format. Just go to the channel. They're both going at the same
- 1:07:04time. I saw a couple of people in the comments saying, why does
- 1:07:08it look like that you're probably looking at the vertical format. But the vertical
- 1:07:12format is good for us because we do get people that have never seen our
- 1:07:15channel before that come across it because you know, people are doom scrolling on
- 1:07:19their phone and when you're done scrolling through YouTube videos, it'll just pop up
- 1:07:24and maybe you'll stick around. So yeah, if you're watching on the vertical
- 1:07:28and you're wondering why it's not like horizontal, just click on the channel.
- 1:07:30You'll see the live stream of the horizontal as well. You just go there,
- 1:07:33okay, And I'm actually considering just going directly to the vertical guys,
- 1:07:39just just to push everybody towards one stream. That could probably help with our
- 1:07:44numbers as well, because the more people who are watching one stream, the
- 1:07:46more likely it's to be boosted even more. So, yeah, that's that's
- 1:07:50something to consider, guys. So I know you'll have I all you'll have
- 1:07:55thoughts on that, but you can always do the You can always watch the
- 1:07:59vertical on X so although I guess that is the vertical on X. Oh,
- 1:08:03I don't horizontal on X. Oh. Yeah, you can watch the
- 1:08:06horizontal on X. But the thing is, well, never mine. Okay,
- 1:08:12So women like alphas number twelve. Women cannot help being attracted to rich
- 1:08:15men. Number thirteen. Women cannot help but be attracted to those who are
- 1:08:19higher status than they are. Again, these are stupid. Nobody says cannot
- 1:08:24help. Maybe some men will say that, but I think as a general
- 1:08:28rule, women are always looking for the best bang for their book, no
- 1:08:31pun intended, So that may mean that they will do that. I mean,
- 1:08:34how else could you explain somebody like Harvey Weinstein? Why, like,
- 1:08:40why are we lying to ourselves about this. We shouldn't be lying to ourselves.
- 1:08:43We should be looking at reality. Number fourteen, women are not attracted
- 1:08:46to men who have low social status. Yeah, those are those are the
- 1:08:49not people category. And we've we've also talked about that too. Like literally,
- 1:08:55when women complain about men, they complain, especially when they complain about
- 1:08:59the men that they've done, They complain about men who are equal or higher
- 1:09:01status than themselves, which means that the men that do not meet that centered
- 1:09:06do not exist. Those are not people. That is most men. So
- 1:09:11yes, that is exactly right, that is how it is. Number fifteen,
- 1:09:15women are attracted to high status men. You're just saying it again.
- 1:09:16This is so stupid, This is just redundant. Well, they're just I
- 1:09:21think they're just padding it out. Yeah, it's like I said, they're
- 1:09:25trying to complete the essay. They're just trying to get the assignment done.
- 1:09:29Numbered anti feminism number two though, I mean, statistically, people do prefer
- 1:09:33women, They do prefer to provide and protect for women, and they prefer
- 1:09:38to deliver instrumental harm on men versus women. So this is it. Yeah,
- 1:09:42I mean like we're literally if you believe this is true and you're a
- 1:09:46feminist and you care about women getting their way, we're literally giving you good
- 1:09:50news. It's solved. You know, Like there's a meme of a genie
- 1:09:56and there's a woman and the genie is saying, you know, what,
- 1:10:00what do you wish for? In the woman's like I'm wishing, I wish
- 1:10:01for equal rights, and he's like your wish is granted, and she's like
- 1:10:04nothing's changed, because yeah, yeah. So the summary of accounts in our
- 1:10:13study, we aim to capture a diverse spectrum of accounts within the menisphere,
- 1:10:16including representatives from men going their own way, pick up artists, men's rights
- 1:10:21activists, men's rights movement, red pill, and track con communities. To
- 1:10:25ensure a well rounded representation, we've deliberately and blah blah blah. So the
- 1:10:30thing is that they've chosen these these communities or these YouTube but I don't think
- 1:10:34they have any actual identified men's rights activists or men's rights movement. Well let's
- 1:10:41let's find out, because yeah, let's go to the channels. Go to
- 1:10:44the channels. So first of all, there what is a trad there's no
- 1:10:46trad con community. I don't know what that means. But anyway, Okay,
- 1:10:49so we're gonna jump down here. Oh look at that. A blow
- 1:10:54table shows the increase of subscribers from November twenty twenty third to March twenty twenty
- 1:10:58four. Counts highlighted in red were demonetized by YouTube, which I guess is
- 1:11:02their way of saying they're so evil that YouTube couldn't support them, so they
- 1:11:08were demonetized, all right. Number one Sandman definitely Micktow guy. Uh.
- 1:11:15He basically grew because he said I'm gonna make a pledge to make a video
- 1:11:19once a day, every day, and I think that he's for the most
- 1:11:21part, stayed on that. I haven't watched Sandman in a long time because,
- 1:11:26surprise, surprise. When you make one video every single day and the
- 1:11:29only thing you're talking about is women in Migtow, you start hearing the same
- 1:11:32thing over and over, so you're just like, yeah, I got it,
- 1:11:35I got it. So Sandman male supremacy Scale metric ninety three, so
- 1:11:43he's almost got the Is that the high score? Yeah for male supremacy?
- 1:11:46Okay, Okay. Of the activists though, no, I don't know one.
- 1:11:54Well, I don't know all these channels, the real mtr I don't
- 1:11:57know what that is. Legion of me. Then, I don't know what
- 1:12:00that is. The rational mail, that's Rollo what yeah, Rollo you know
- 1:12:05again, Russian Fit. They're they're just red Field guys. Rich Cooper Channels.
- 1:12:10I don't know who that is. Tutorials and well, I would say
- 1:12:14creator who engages the reaction videos to viral clips. Oh does he have description?
- 1:12:17Oh he has descriptions here? Okay, reaction videos. Yeah, that's
- 1:12:24real mediocre tutorials and reviews. Is a black male contents a men a white
- 1:12:29region of around the agent? Why are you telling us the race? Why
- 1:12:32does that matter? I know it matters to them because they that's all they
- 1:12:36see videos, you know, produced by others. Notably, his discussions revolve
- 1:12:43around the concept of passport bros. Okay, that's not Rollo Tamasi. Nope,
- 1:12:48he's red pill, fresh and fit. Like they just do don't they
- 1:12:53just do reaction Well, No, they podcast. They bring a bunch of
- 1:12:56women on, they dress them down. You know that there's a cars Rich
- 1:13:00Cooper, Oh, I remember entrepreneurs and cars. Okay, A long time.
- 1:13:08I'm gonna drop this here now because I wanted I was thinking about the
- 1:13:11difference between pigmies and simps. Simps, the what they're shaming is this idea
- 1:13:17that you are giving without reciprocation, like giving resources, so things that you
- 1:13:25have produced, like you know, on a monetary level. So men are
- 1:13:30giving things that they have created two women with no reciprocation, whereas a pick
- 1:13:36me apparently is someone who just has any kind of sympathy for men at all.
- 1:13:41Do you see the difference, Like, I mean, I I apparently
- 1:13:44I can be a pick me without ever dropping like a couple of grand on
- 1:13:48men for just random reasons. Well just because I'm like, you know,
- 1:13:54maybe we shouldn't take their kids away. That makes me a pick me.
- 1:13:59Yeah. Order to be a simp, you have to actually either engage in
- 1:14:05justifying women's bad behavior and really egregious ways, like oh yeah, what doesn't
- 1:14:12matter that she raped a toddler, what was done to her? You know,
- 1:14:15what happened to her, or you have to actually be dropping large amounts
- 1:14:18of funds on them, whereas if you're pick me, all you have to
- 1:14:23do is be like, yeah, maybe I would choose the band not the
- 1:14:26bear, because the bear is an apex predator that probably will eat me slowly
- 1:14:30then you're a pick me like you Just the difference is astounding, think about
- 1:14:34it. Yeah, I know pick me girls. Look, the label of
- 1:14:39pick me is only applied to women by other women. Men don't do that
- 1:14:44unless they're male feminists or game. But like, it's only it's something that
- 1:14:47women use on other women who they feel betray the sisterhood. That's all it
- 1:14:54is. It's about shaming women back in line. Men don't do that.
- 1:14:58Actually, pick me girls men men generally are well what women would call pick
- 1:15:02me girls men generally like because these are simply women that don't shit on men,
- 1:15:08Like that's all it is. They don't have to be like I'm gonna
- 1:15:11throw myself uh you know, no, no, they don't have to throw
- 1:15:14themselves in front of a bullet for men, they just have to not attack
- 1:15:16them. And so like it's they're not they're not. Yeah, these things
- 1:15:21are not even close to parallel. It's almost like pick me is the absence
- 1:15:26of an activity, the absence of going out of your way to be shitty
- 1:15:29to men. Yeah, are as simple is the presence of excessive servile behavior.
- 1:15:34Well, it's essentially like it's destructive though, because simps they they're not
- 1:15:41just like destroying themselves when they needlessly give their resources, their time, their
- 1:15:46their you know, their virtue, signaling bullshit, vinglorious attitude towards women.
- 1:15:53But they also destroy those women because they don't have the ability to tell them
- 1:15:58what is true and right for the honest because it would be a criticism and
- 1:16:02instead of like hurting their feelings with mean man words, they'd rather just support
- 1:16:06them unequivocally. So when men say this is why women are choosing the bear,
- 1:16:12men, that's simping. That's what he's doing. He's not like necessarily
- 1:16:15like keeping for women, but he's attacking men, and he's saying, look,
- 1:16:20men, why aren't you more like me? I'm okay with the fact
- 1:16:25that women find me scarier than bears in the woods. But a pickny doesn't
- 1:16:30like a pick me girl is just a girl that doesn't hate men. And
- 1:16:33what and refuse is to not like join in on the fucking, you know,
- 1:16:38dog pile. When women start attacking men, they just won't be a
- 1:16:41part of it. So when you didn't say I choose them, you know,
- 1:16:45I choose the bear, they called you a pick me because you should
- 1:16:47have done what they want you to do. It's a tool used by women
- 1:16:51to control other women. It's not men have nothing to do with it.
- 1:16:55Nothing. It just seems like there's a higher bar for Yeah, It's like
- 1:17:00it's like you don't, yeah, for sure, don't participate in the hate.
- 1:17:03Where is the sympasta. There's more steps to it and more effort put
- 1:17:06in. Yeah, but the there was something I was going to say about
- 1:17:14about this pick me thing, you know, I can't remember, So let's
- 1:17:18well, I'll say I would say that Pearl. I would say that Pearl
- 1:17:24is closer to a men's rights activist because she does talk about the law and
- 1:17:29and and she knows the stats. I wouldn't. She's not on the on
- 1:17:34par with Janis FIMNGO or something. But and I think there's a reason why
- 1:17:40Pearl makes the list and like Karen doesn't, for example, because for us,
- 1:17:45because I know that we're tiny, but they probably know that we exist.
- 1:17:48I'm sure they know about us. But yeah, yeah, So but
- 1:17:53the thing is is that like Pearl's won weakness. And so I watched her
- 1:17:59to discussion with Lauren Chen, Rachel Wilson and that other woman and Tim Poole
- 1:18:04was on there and with the only flaw I would say with Pearl is that
- 1:18:08she's not as good at like articulating, you know, her arguments and being
- 1:18:14like really clear, because she's kind of normy in that regard. I mean,
- 1:18:18I think she gets better at it. But she does understand the problems,
- 1:18:23and she does describe essentially like not prescribe, but she describes, like
- 1:18:30why are men not getting married? Well, this is why men are not
- 1:18:31getting married. Here's the data undivorced. Here's the data on child custody,
- 1:18:34here's the data on false allegations. Here's the data on domestic violence. I
- 1:18:39know about the Duluth model. So she is using the talking points. She
- 1:18:43knows them. She got them from Rachel Wilson, she got them from Karen,
- 1:18:45she got them from Kevin Samuels, et cetera. So she's got a
- 1:18:51bit of a blend of things. But I think generally she's closer to an
- 1:18:56MRA than maybe everyone else on the list, including I don't know, a
- 1:19:01Rocko TV but like or Steph as Cole, but including Essay Aaron Aeron Claary
- 1:19:06knows his stuff too, and twenty one Studios. So I would say that
- 1:19:12if of all of them, she's the closest to it. That's all I'm
- 1:19:15saying. And it's funny too. A lot of this is another thing these
- 1:19:18people ever mentioned. A disproportionate number of manisphered guys are non white guys,
- 1:19:25like probably a and I mean highly disproportionate, But they will not address that
- 1:19:30because they love to play race politics. They love to play race politics when
- 1:19:35it's convenient, but when it isn't. In the fact that the majority of
- 1:19:40in cels are non white, the majority of men in the manisphere are non
- 1:19:43white, and they are dealing with these problems because they want a woman of
- 1:19:46their own race, because they want someone who shares in the culture, and
- 1:19:51they're generally attracted like is attracted to like, and they can't address it.
- 1:19:56So instead they have to like either make them look like outliers like stephis cole
- 1:20:00is a black man in his thirties, Helly from Detroit. They're trying to
- 1:20:03say, look, all black men aren't like this. Most of them just
- 1:20:06do as they're told, and they're just like you know, in gangs or
- 1:20:10whatever wherever we think this should be. And they're not like doing the worst
- 1:20:14thing, which is I guess hating on women online, and I think that
- 1:20:18it's not convenient for them, because that's why I always get really angry when
- 1:20:23people try to play the race card in this, because that is the least
- 1:20:27relevant part of this whole conversation, the least relevant, and yet they continue
- 1:20:31to bring it up because they're trying to paint a specific picture. They're trying
- 1:20:35to frame this a certain way, and it does not work. Because there
- 1:20:40are men latinos Asians, black, white, fucking Mexican, Indian, it
- 1:20:45doesn't matter, Okay, Like the Indian men's movement is really big in South
- 1:20:49Korea, there's a men's movement. This race shit does not work, but
- 1:20:54they can't help it because they have to paint it a certain way, and
- 1:20:57so this cannot stand. I will not accept it. I can't stand it,
- 1:21:02and so I won't even let them use it. I won't even use
- 1:21:05it as a defense, but I will point out that they will do everything
- 1:21:09in their power to avoid confronting the truth about the fact that most of the
- 1:21:14men who are suffering are not white, and so like, they can't do
- 1:21:18it. They can't do it because they have to make a certain frame where
- 1:21:21white men are on top. So if non white men are suffering and they
- 1:21:27can't blame white men for it. Then they just have to not talk about
- 1:21:30it. You mean proportionately, because yeah, proportionately, proportionally probably more white
- 1:21:36people, but there are more white men period for example. These no but
- 1:21:41but like literally in the in cell movement, there is a majority of non
- 1:21:45white men, like the majority of not disproportionate majority of the men in the
- 1:21:51in cell forums, according to people who are spoken to in the Inzell forums,
- 1:21:56are non white. But they cannot address that, so instead they just
- 1:22:00say that they're white. They don't they don't necessarily make the claim, but
- 1:22:03they just pretend like they don't have a race. They just call them in
- 1:22:06cells, and they hope nobody looks too closely because if they find out they're
- 1:22:10non white, it shatters their whole race construction they built, and they can't
- 1:22:15have that. It's it's it's all. It's never about the truth, it's
- 1:22:18always about the framing. Okay, So moving on, I find I'm very
- 1:22:25disappointed with their distinct lack of actual men's rights activists, and of course,
- 1:22:29of course it's probably because they don't know how to actually deal with our content,
- 1:22:32which yeah, I mean the twenty one studios is, like, I
- 1:22:36guess they have like sometimes they have him ras on, like I know,
- 1:22:41I know they had Janis on once and they asked Paul but he kind of
- 1:22:44like he said, fuck you guys, I'm not going in that. Like
- 1:22:48do you remember, I don't I remember, ye, I don't know if
- 1:22:50they had Janis on, but they were on like she was a she was
- 1:22:55a she was a speaker on a show. Oh yeah, yeah, I
- 1:23:00remember that. It was up I think it was. I think it was
- 1:23:02Piers Morgan actually, and and I think it was the Studio twenty one guy.
- 1:23:08Actually, what I what I remember is that he he did his best,
- 1:23:13but Janis was just like, oh, Anthony Johnson is Anthony Johnson's pretty
- 1:23:18mid I'm sorry he is. He's on the on the discussions. Oh Janis
- 1:23:23knows the ship though, Yeah, yes she does. She's like a terminator
- 1:23:27when it comes to the Yeah. Yeah, fully gets fat out of the
- 1:23:30fire. That's right from what I from what I remember, well, yeah,
- 1:23:31because all he has is trolling Like he doesn't I'm saying, he's just
- 1:23:35like, oh, I'm gonna trigger the I'm gonna trigger the libs. Watch
- 1:23:38this and it's like it's so stupid. It's like, bring the fucking facts,
- 1:23:43like Janis has them. Why I feel like, I'm sorry. I'm
- 1:23:45not a fan of Anthony Johnson. I think he's a phony. But I
- 1:23:49want to get back to this because you know, this is fifty freaking pages.
- 1:23:55Yeah, and I don't know, are you doing the whole thing?
- 1:23:58I don't know, Like, let me see there, let me go back
- 1:24:00to the contents and see what they covered. Stop simping passport pros. I'm
- 1:24:06completely disinterested in passport pros. Who cares? Yeah, who cares? The
- 1:24:11disparagement of the modern the rise of men have the right to do whatever the
- 1:24:15fuck they want with their money. So I don't know why you have a
- 1:24:17problem with this hitting the wall in the pervasive sexualization of younger and underage women,
- 1:24:21Well, that's a real that's poisoning the well. Uh, I think
- 1:24:26we can look at the evolving trends and because the rest of this, the
- 1:24:30rest of this is just god damn navel gazing. Yeah, really impacted the
- 1:24:34normalization of very violent misogyny. Well, I actually, honestly, the section
- 1:24:40two, I'm sort of interested in the acrobatics, all right. I know.
- 1:24:45I know it's gonna be bullshit. Do we see any I'm gonna look
- 1:24:48for a graph. Oh look, ven diagram. That's it. Guys,
- 1:24:55we're done. Go home. We've lost. They got data looks like a
- 1:24:59ven diagram. Uh oh, it looks like we're in trouble. Oh no,
- 1:25:03they win. Oh my god. Okay, I got some super childs.
- 1:25:10I got some super childs. I want to read them really quick before
- 1:25:12they disappear. So five dollars from let me see here, Hold on a
- 1:25:17second, I put it on the screen. We put the bass, your
- 1:25:23feet on there. Okay, five dollars from Zapierre. So it's just an
- 1:25:29anonymous says, if the genie granted her equal rights, she would lose genitalia
- 1:25:32tissue. Also, you're welcome for the vertical stream tip. Thank you appreciate
- 1:25:36it. Then we got one from Richard Pierre for five bucks, and he
- 1:25:40says, these women who promote treating men badly repeatedly flick the bean, the
- 1:25:45idea of humiliating men. Possibly, And let me just double check to make
- 1:25:49sure there are any rumble rants. Sometimes those go through and I miss them.
- 1:25:55No they're not. There are lots of emojis. So keep the emojis
- 1:25:59coming, fam and I think that's it. Okay, So let's I'm looking
- 1:26:04at three evolving trends. Let's look at stop simping? Where is that?
- 1:26:13Wait? Wait? Where are we looking? You have to click, just
- 1:26:16have to click the go to the contents and click. An overview of three
- 1:26:20evolving trends will take you right there. Oh, stop simping? Yeah.
- 1:26:25Misogynistic influencers humiliate women to discourage sympathy. Okay, First of all, simping
- 1:26:30isn't humiliating women, right, it's men humiliated women most affected? Okay,
- 1:26:38stop okay. A disconcerting trend has surfaced within the manosphere on YouTube, characterized
- 1:26:43by a series of videos where men proudly proclaimed to stop simping through public humiliation
- 1:26:47of women. Straight How not sympathizing with, showing too much attention for,
- 1:26:54or otherwise being submissive to women can lead to actual harassment and bullying of women
- 1:27:00while providing them a false sense of power. But wouldn't giving women too much
- 1:27:06attention also be actual harassment and bullying? Like I thought they'd like what?
- 1:27:14Men are not supposed to clarify what they're saying in that sentence. I'm not
- 1:27:17even gonna try. Okay. The phenomenon is intricately rinked the link to the
- 1:27:20theory of ginocentrism, and fueled by the belief that men often prioritize women at
- 1:27:25the expense of their own well being. Yes, yes, they do.
- 1:27:30They do it. They do it every fucking day, and they do it
- 1:27:32every fucking day. Yes, batman, batman shooting in the guy. Oh
- 1:27:38yeah, I made a pull. I made a comic book about it,
- 1:27:42where where yeah, men are judged for not prioritizing women. Simp is sometimes
- 1:27:48used as a derogatory term toatrol men who extend any positive like here's the thing,
- 1:27:54right, if you are going to hold men to this standard, then
- 1:27:58acknowledge that you're doing it because we hold men to the standard that they sacrifice
- 1:28:01for women. Hell, this this report is doing that. It's this entire
- 1:28:08report only sees men through the lens of women's benefit. That's it. Simpus
- 1:28:14sometimes uses a derogatory term totrol men who extend any positive expression or behavior towards
- 1:28:18women, particularly kindness, in exchange for some action, usually romantic interest.
- 1:28:26So do feminists when they call out nice guys? Is that also uh?
- 1:28:30Terrorism? Simping can also be loosed used in lieu of standing, which is
- 1:28:34to say someone is an extreme fan of something. Ginocentrism, originally describing a
- 1:28:40dominant force on women in theory focus I'm going to focus on women in theory
- 1:28:45of practice, has been manipulated by some to be that, to be that
- 1:28:48societal chivalry and white night behavior prioritizes women over other groups. Statistically, any
- 1:28:54way, wha wha wha, whoa wha wha whoa whoa whoa. What do
- 1:28:56you mean over other groups like men? What other groups are there? There's
- 1:29:00no other groups. There's just men and women. No, that's that's just
- 1:29:03men. That's men and women. So prior no. So what you're saying
- 1:29:08is is that if we prioritize men over women, that would be preferable to
- 1:29:15acknowledge. But we don't. And it's because of you. You asked us
- 1:29:18to put women first. I mean we were doing it before you ask But
- 1:29:21like allegation that we put put men first, because these the individuals who wrote
- 1:29:27this report would say that society puts men first, full boint, full yes,
- 1:29:31in defiance of all evidence. You remember when I said patriarchy theory,
- 1:29:34if they actually tested, it would be false false false false false. That'd
- 1:29:38be another false society. People in our society and most societies around the world,
- 1:29:44do not put men first. They do not want to see harms befall
- 1:29:48women before those harms befall men. They prefer to see harms befall men.
- 1:29:53They prefer protective protection and provision to go to women. This is a statistical
- 1:29:58reality. It's not one of those false things. And that whole testing the
- 1:30:00patriarchal narrative, right, But they want to say, they want to say
- 1:30:05that we live in a society that benefits men over women. Therefore, overt
- 1:30:11institutionalized and set in stone benefits over women are necessary and deserved, and they
- 1:30:18get to adjudicate over them and get the extra money for doing them. Get
- 1:30:24what I'm saying, like, they basically get to be the ones who administrate
- 1:30:29the correction in inequality that favors women or men. They are the ones who
- 1:30:34get to manage how we correct all of that, which means they get the
- 1:30:39money, and then they get the control, and they get the power,
- 1:30:43and they get to write reports like this, and they get to engage in
- 1:30:45whatever diverting thing that they're doing. But the justification for it is because they're
- 1:30:53correcting an inequality that women face and men don't. And of course it just
- 1:30:57so happens that they're accused seeing people or society or institutions of the thing that
- 1:31:02people hate most. So, in other words, most people do not like
- 1:31:09the idea that men benefit at the expense of women. They are greatly motivated
- 1:31:14because they don't like the idea that men are benefit at the expensive women.
- 1:31:17They prefer that women be benefited. This is a statistical reality about people's attitudes
- 1:31:23about benefit going to men or benefit going to women, harm going to men,
- 1:31:27or harm going to women. So if you are a person who's interested
- 1:31:30in money and control, you might go out and say, hey, I
- 1:31:34see a way that men are benefited and women are harmed that you don't,
- 1:31:40and if you give me money, I can correct it, just like freaking
- 1:31:45thetans and like scientology. Now I see these invisionable forces that are doing bad
- 1:31:49things. If you give me money and control, I can correct it.
- 1:31:54So of course they don't want to recognize. They don't want the growth of
- 1:31:58the recognition that, oh, actually, people do care more about harms to
- 1:32:00women and benefit to men. You know, they do care about preventing benefit
- 1:32:05to men at the expense of women. Therefore, this thing that we're exploiting,
- 1:32:10you know, we might not be able to exploit it as well if
- 1:32:13everybody knew it existed. Do you see what I'm saying? Yep? Or
- 1:32:18just phased out there for a bit, okay? Men going their Own Way,
- 1:32:21for example, identifies itself as a reaction against the perceived mysgery of ginocentrism.
- 1:32:26This concern over ginocentric oh, ginocentrism in society pulls up this conspiratal mindset
- 1:32:32into a valuation of contemporary gender norms. I can patriarchy out, suggesting there
- 1:32:40is a grand conspiracy the center women and feminism Yep, the center women and
- 1:32:46feminism in our culture at the expense of men and the traditional gender binary.
- 1:32:51In a document that has spent how much time talking about the pain that men
- 1:32:58are in due to loneliness. They they can't, they have no there is
- 1:33:04there is no rational like argument against mctwe like, you literally can't. What
- 1:33:11do you want? No? Seriously, it's like passport pros. What do
- 1:33:15you like? What are you saying? I don't want men to not want
- 1:33:18to be around women? Well, but I don't want men to be around
- 1:33:21women. Like I said at the beginning, they do not want they do
- 1:33:26not regard men's preferences to be legitimate, right, They just don't. They
- 1:33:31have no position that they're in, They have no answer. They just don't
- 1:33:34like that men are making choices. They don't like it. They don't they
- 1:33:38don't recognize the rape of men. They don't recognize the coercion of men.
- 1:33:42They don't recognize the exploitation of men. And they do not want anyone else
- 1:33:45to recognize it, because then they would have to answer to what they're doing.
- 1:33:49Right. Yeah, In this very document, this tax funder, tax
- 1:33:58payer funded govern commissioned document, they are saying that society, that the men
- 1:34:08going over their own way are pointing out that society puts women's interests ahead of
- 1:34:16men's. I mean, they've already acknowledged that men are in pain, that
- 1:34:19men are suffering, that's why they're turning to these other groups. But this
- 1:34:23is not what's important. What's important that is that men we still see men
- 1:34:29in terms of how they affect women, the benefit to women. This entire
- 1:34:34document is a demonstration of what men going their own way say about kindocentrism,
- 1:34:43and of course they're not going to recognize that they are the thing. This
- 1:34:46is the thing, this is the thing. They are the thing. They
- 1:34:51are the guidocentrism, and of course they're not going to recognize it because they
- 1:34:57think of it as completely legitimate based on a narrative, a power narrative about
- 1:35:01society that has never been proven. Hasn't He hasn't even gotten to the first
- 1:35:06step of being proven. First baby step. The conspiracy may or may not.
- 1:35:13Oh God, I'm not even gonna go there. I'm want to read
- 1:35:15it. No, No, I'm going to read this. This conspiracy may
- 1:35:17or may not, depending on the influencer, dovetail with broader rhetoric around the
- 1:35:20Great Replacement and the ways in which Jews and other enemies of white people en
- 1:35:25list feminism to undermine the white race and Western culture. Well, this is
- 1:35:30this is the line they're trying to connect. And by the way, the
- 1:35:32Great Replacement. The left has been talking about this for years. You can
- 1:35:36find several clips of MSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, fucking
- 1:35:45what's the public broadcasting Radio station PBS, NPR like ABC in fucking Australia.
- 1:35:54The BBC, the CBC, they have all talked about it. They all
- 1:35:59say it, demographics destiny, great replacement. White people are going to be
- 1:36:01minority. They've been saying it. They're the ones that have been saying it.
- 1:36:05And if we point out that they've been saying it, they call us
- 1:36:09a conspiracy theorist. Now, this has nothing to do with this migtou shit.
- 1:36:12They're just they're just drawing like they're making read it. Yeah, I
- 1:36:15know, but I gotta address it because it's a lie. They're trying to
- 1:36:18connect a lie to another lie and make a super lie. It's still a
- 1:36:23lie. It's still a lie, dude. And also, I think that
- 1:36:31I think that this has gone well beyond white people. I mean pretty much
- 1:36:34nobody is breeding anymore except for you know, the the African baby making slave
- 1:36:40stakes. Yeah, I know, but they don't care about that because they're
- 1:36:45they're trying to change the demographics so they stay in power forever. And at
- 1:36:48the same time, they're attacking the men like as a group to keep them,
- 1:36:54so they're they're just destroying society. Regardless of course they are having families,
- 1:37:00they are doing fine. They're not taking their own advice. But that
- 1:37:03I digress, So okay. The content of the stop Simping trend predominantly comprises
- 1:37:10videos source from various platforms, with the majority from TikTok, depicting instances where
- 1:37:14men humiliate or reject women, often response to perceived entitlement. How about actual
- 1:37:19entitlement? You mean like you mean like the girl who was taken to fucking
- 1:37:23cheesecake factory? You think that was like, well, she set up.
- 1:37:29These videos portray simping and kindes centrism as pervasive social issues and argue for the
- 1:37:33devaluation of women, showing them as inferior to men and advocating for their subservience.
- 1:37:38Wow, that escalated quickly. I mean, it's it's kind of it's
- 1:37:44base, but it's not happening guys. Woman being like I can't believe you
- 1:37:54took me to cheesecake cafe and the guy being like, get out, I'll
- 1:37:58take you there. Yeah, obviously he thinks he's superior and he's making your
- 1:38:01kiss the ring, like if he doesn't get like. The thing is that
- 1:38:04men think of themselves as superior if they just if they don't open their wallets
- 1:38:08for women, if they decide that they have preferences. You know, this
- 1:38:13is insane that this is like abuser talk. If you don't like me punching
- 1:38:17you in the face, that just means you think you're better than me.
- 1:38:20What mh, this is bullshit. You're right, this is a super lie.
- 1:38:26This dynamic is also meant to inverse the perceived power imbalance that women have
- 1:38:30over men in dating romantic contexts, like common agreements among male supremacists. Well,
- 1:38:36okay, so yes, I wonder what they think of the soft guy
- 1:38:41era? Like that that's basically men expecting women to pay for them? Is
- 1:38:47grizzle grizzly? Is that male supremacy? Well, in which case is the
- 1:38:53reverse female supremacy, wherein women are depicted as the sex and power to reject
- 1:38:58men's advances. No, no, like this is this is oh god,
- 1:39:02they're smearing a bunch of crap together to create a narrative. Near narrative.
- 1:39:08It has nothing to do with rejecting men's advances. How does humiliating women on
- 1:39:15TikTok in like a video give men power? Like when you watch one of
- 1:39:18those videos, do you feel yourself getting stronger? Like? What do I
- 1:39:23like to check my bank account? Shit? I got another thousand dollars,
- 1:39:26Like I mean, like this is so stupid, it's so f meryal.
- 1:39:30It's like it's WU. This is WU, ladies, it's actually really destructive.
- 1:39:36WU. Yeah, it's destructive. WU. They're growing towards men saying
- 1:39:41rejecting women's entitlement. So late, ladies, put put down the put down
- 1:39:45the sacrificial bat for a second and come join us. In reality, they're
- 1:39:49they're they're presenting men rejecting women who are expecting them to do things like pay
- 1:39:59for stuff like I don't know, they'll call them up and pay I want
- 1:40:02you to pay for my nail appointment before I go on a date with you,
- 1:40:04and stuff like that, and men saying no, I'm not sure,
- 1:40:09like what do you bring to the table, And they're they're presenting that as
- 1:40:15as them being salty, that women are rejecting men's advances. Mm hm,
- 1:40:20that's like, this is this is incoherent. You're right, it's wo.
- 1:40:24It's just nonsense. This is a nonsense paragraph. Stop simping content. Thus
- 1:40:29reverses the perceived power dynamic, depicting men as the rejectors instead of the rejected,
- 1:40:34playing into the fear and pain of rejection, restoring masculinity by humilitating women
- 1:40:40and giving men power. Yes, but men have every right to reject women.
- 1:40:45Like the premise of this paragraph is that men don't have a right to
- 1:40:49reject women, Like do you see that? And I began all of this,
- 1:40:54and I said, the problem with these people or that the ideological position
- 1:40:58that they take is men don't have the right to their own consent. They
- 1:41:01don't have the right to consent to what happens in a relationship. They don't
- 1:41:05have a right to consent to what happens in dating. They don't have a
- 1:41:09right to consent to what happens in sex. They don't have a right to
- 1:41:12their own preferences in any of those spheres. Right, And here we have
- 1:41:16this paragraph makes no sense unless you do not think men have the right to
- 1:41:21reject women. And because anything else diverting hate is rape, like this is
- 1:41:31this document is advocating rape. It is advocating removing a man's right to consent
- 1:41:42to the use of his money, the use of his time, and the
- 1:41:45use of his penis Like, I can't I want people to see this.
- 1:41:51This document is a rape manual. It's a justification for delegitimating men's right to
- 1:41:59consent. It's justification for saying mendo shouldn't have a right to consent. If
- 1:42:02they don't consent to you sexually, it's because he's a lookist. If he
- 1:42:05doesn't consent to you financially, it's because he feels like he's a supremacist.
- 1:42:11He's a male supremacist. He should be opening his wallet to you, or
- 1:42:14he's immoral if he doesn't consent to whatever you bring to a relationship. Again,
- 1:42:18male supremacist. He thinks that he's better than you. He's somebody.
- 1:42:23He's a man who doesn't want to benefit women. Go get him, kill
- 1:42:27the witch. You know, like this is this is crap. This entire
- 1:42:30document is morally bankrupt on such a fundamental level that I can't fucking believe that
- 1:42:36people aren't in the streets asking the freaking federal the irs, why are my
- 1:42:44tax money going to this shit? Why is my tax money going to justifying
- 1:42:48rape, sexual assault, and reproduct and relationship coercion, Because that's what this
- 1:42:56is. This is the justification of removing men's right to consent. Good lord,
- 1:43:02you know what I'm done? Fuck it, fuck it, I don't
- 1:43:06know this document that escalated quickly. I mean that really got out of hand
- 1:43:13fast. Oh come on, Brian, is it no? No, you're
- 1:43:17right, No, No, I mean I'm literally saying that men don't have
- 1:43:20the right to reject women. Yeah, I know, I don't disagree.
- 1:43:26It's just I mean, course of course, right, I mean, I
- 1:43:30guess we could see if it can No, no, we can. We
- 1:43:33can end it here. I mean it's almost two hours. The metrics reveals
- 1:43:38the truck. Oh look look, look, look, look this is great.
- 1:43:41Okay, I want to look at this. The humanizing language on Getter
- 1:43:45exploring an overlook corner of the manisphere. And they have like a list of
- 1:43:47terms. Okay, okay, look at it. Look at number one.
- 1:43:51Whamon is like violation, it's kind of violation scale and it's the top.
- 1:43:59Wham is number five, it's five points. Understand what times are changing.
- 1:44:06A glimpse of the metrics reveals the troubling growth Channel's promoting this trend in just
- 1:44:15one month. Now, now, I know, we got to use women.
- 1:44:18It's the top, it's the top word. Violet's scale five. Bringing
- 1:44:27you back to the simping thing, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. The growth
- 1:44:30of channels promoting men's right to reject women. Where what let what are we
- 1:44:36going back to? Here? We are? We are at the stage.
- 1:44:41We are at the stage of societal something I don't know what, do you
- 1:44:44want to call it? Collapse, corruption, rot We're at the stage where
- 1:44:48the government is putting out documents that explain how men rejecting women is illegitimate,
- 1:44:59is morally bank is morally wrong. Can you put the I need a scale,
- 1:45:04Brian, I like apply it to this document. I know now,
- 1:45:11I know I'm gonna use women at every opportunity because I didn't know it was.
- 1:45:15It was being flagged by the fucking government. If you say or famoids,
- 1:45:20which I don't. I don't like foids or femoids as much, and
- 1:45:25not not because I'm an insulted. I just don't think it's got the same
- 1:45:28zing to it that women has. Women is like it's it's perfect women because
- 1:45:32there's like a wham, which is like they're crying, and then you still
- 1:45:38get to say men at some point it's perfect women. I like it.
- 1:45:43Femoids and feminazis it's old school, I guess in cell I mean, I'm
- 1:45:48I'm you know, I don't find I don't know why that's offensive to anybody,
- 1:45:54but g N top G. Yeah, but look at the definition for
- 1:45:58women. We are all top g's, Alison, You're a top G.
- 1:46:00As far as i'm con thank you voids. It looks like a look at
- 1:46:11the like misspelling the word woman a derogatory term primarily used by insults that implies
- 1:46:16intelligent and lacking common sense. There's a direct violation of example, Facebook's hate
- 1:46:21speech policy. Oh really, wait, what women is a direct violation of
- 1:46:27the Facebook hate speech Probably it is. No, I used it all the
- 1:46:31time on Facebook. You know what. Maybe that's why I've been getting flat.
- 1:46:36I've gotten some warnings and they're like, you're you're postive. I'm like,
- 1:46:41what, Like, I don't, I don't understand, all right,
- 1:46:45but but this definition and somewhere else they also say that women means coldness.
- 1:46:50Women are cold. This is not correct. It's in the freaking word where
- 1:46:58men, yeah, whine and complain and that's the entirety of their personality.
- 1:47:05Women who play the damsel. Well, if femoid is feminoid, femoid is
- 1:47:11to use emmot emphasize a purportedly cold nature of women, and to humanizes them.
- 1:47:15Well, no women to humanize men, and then the men get mad
- 1:47:19because they've been humanized. Ye, well, I mean the whole narrative to
- 1:47:24humanizes them, the original narrative that's completely untested, like not even gotten to
- 1:47:27the point of being presented in a way that could be tested. Men oppress
- 1:47:31women, dehumanizes men. All right, and now we have all the knock
- 1:47:35on effects of that. Congratulations, And now we have a government document that
- 1:47:42basically justifies are basically explains why men rejecting women is invalid. Well, look,
- 1:47:47look, there's a there's a chart we have. We have charts,
- 1:47:50guys, we have data quantity of pose containing key term you want them knows
- 1:47:59look at and the is this on the in cell forums. Let me see
- 1:48:02getter or something. I think this is getter. So femoids is seventy one,
- 1:48:08feminazis eighty one. In cells to ninety seven, so in cell is
- 1:48:12actually the highest, which is actually a derogatory term for men, and it's
- 1:48:17the highest. Top g is one sixty one and whamen is at two ninety
- 1:48:21five. We gotta pump those numbers up. Those are rookie numbers. We
- 1:48:25gotta pump those numbers up. This is Oh it is shit. This is
- 1:48:32it's really stupid. This is where our money goes, guys, of actually
- 1:48:36solving problems. Somebody sat there and counted how many times Wamen was said they
- 1:48:42got paid for it. You know, like we could be doing We could
- 1:48:45we could be paying for a suicide helpline. We could be paying for legal
- 1:48:48help for men going through custody issues. We could be paying for resources for
- 1:48:54men who've experienced sexual abuse. That doesn't start right off the bat by minimizing
- 1:48:59it, be doing all of these things. Instead, we are constructing a
- 1:49:02document that explains why men can't consent to sex the fat women, or can't
- 1:49:10have to. I'm simplifying it, but this is what this is. Men
- 1:49:14don't have a right to their preferences. Men don't have the right to say
- 1:49:17no. Men don't have the right to reject women. That's what this is.
- 1:49:23And then also for some reason, if men like women who are thin
- 1:49:27and young, that means they're pedophiles. I have a serious suspicion that that
- 1:49:30is bullshit. I mean, we could take a look at that one,
- 1:49:33because I was a little bit which one. It's uh the uh go to
- 1:49:40the go to the cable contents go down a bit empathy driven. No,
- 1:49:47hitting the wall, hitting the wall, hitting the wall, it's overview of
- 1:49:56three. Yet there we go. I'm gonna I'm gonna read is it right
- 1:50:01here? Or is it that's it? That's it? You got it?
- 1:50:05Yeah, hitting the wall. Hitting the wall has persisted for several years and
- 1:50:10is rooted in the harmful notion that a woman's value is solely derived from her
- 1:50:13physical appearance. This troubling narrative centers around women who are judged as too old,
- 1:50:17divorced, or otherwise considered undtable. Yeah, well, but men have
- 1:50:23every right to not want to date them. The end. The entire premise
- 1:50:27of this paragraph is men don't have the right to their preferences. Again,
- 1:50:31like I can't believe at the beginning this, I said this at the very
- 1:50:35beginning, that this is what this document would be, and this is what
- 1:50:38this document would was. It's just men don't have a right to their preferences.
- 1:50:43Now, I want to see where it tries to say that while the
- 1:50:47hitting the wall I just went down to the final paragraph, while the hitting
- 1:50:50the wall trend purely perpetuates harmful stereotypes and actively contributes the egregious objectification to devaluation
- 1:50:59of women. We are seeing it beyond the confines of YouTube. All right,
- 1:51:02Okay, if you consider yourself to be the table as a woman,
- 1:51:10then you are constraining your value to your fertility, your youth, and your
- 1:51:15beauty the end. Like, if you want to talk about the things that
- 1:51:18you bring to the table, then you are not constraining your value to your
- 1:51:24youth, your beauty, and your fertility. You're actually saying I have other
- 1:51:28things to offer. Now, maybe men aren't interested in those other things.
- 1:51:32That's their decision. You know, that's their right, because men have a
- 1:51:36right to their preferences. And in cell communities, the notion of hitting the
- 1:51:41wall is burgeoning as a persistent in menacing ideology within male supremacist spheres, whereby
- 1:51:45they place a higher value on younger women and girls. This petiphiliac type mindset
- 1:51:51can be seen on sites like in cels that I Asked and I'm bashedly refer
- 1:51:56to girls as youngest twelve as objects of desire. They well get rid of
- 1:52:00old, But how how old are the men? How old are the guys
- 1:52:03that are on there? Though? How do we know they're not twelve?
- 1:52:06Or thirteen years old, like how do we? This concept is also used
- 1:52:10to undermine women's perceived power in sexual romantic relationship context is these male supremises ironically
- 1:52:15imdue women with supreme power authority over men by determining which men will be validated
- 1:52:20as masculine and success sexually sexually successful, and which ones will not. Yes,
- 1:52:28men, women also have preferences like yeah, I mean, like how
- 1:52:33how how rampant is like pedophilia in public schools. We're just gonna I'm just
- 1:52:40gonna call it pedophilia because that's what it is. Like, I feel like
- 1:52:43every couple of weeks I cover a story on the news show where a teacher
- 1:52:48was messing around with an underage boy almost like every every at least like every
- 1:52:53other week, so like, but nobody says they and they're still calling it,
- 1:53:00you know, an affair instead of what it is. But okay,
- 1:53:04so I mean like that's that's not news, that's you know, women.
- 1:53:10Women are allowed to have preferences like no matter what they are, no matter
- 1:53:14how you know, Yeah, how bizarre. Yeah, I mean it's women's
- 1:53:20preferences that apparently drive men's participation in society. So you'd understand why the institutions
- 1:53:28are trying to say, well, they'reifye, but men's preferences are bad.
- 1:53:31Okay, from I'm going to from hate online to violence offline. That's the
- 1:53:38one where just go to the the contents section two, hate to violence,
- 1:53:49hate online of volens online. Yes, okay. The Manisphere unbashedly thrives on
- 1:53:56the endorsement and glorification of violence. Really, the propagation of threats permeates online
- 1:54:01forums, comment sections, posts, resulting in a tangible real world concert Oh
- 1:54:05boy, here we go. Particularly alarming is the romanticize Elliott Roger a violence
- 1:54:12against women. Within these online spaces, numerous perpetrators of mass violence events that
- 1:54:17draw direct inspiration from extremist, misogynist ideologies, acquired online a decade ago.
- 1:54:24The most infamous of these events took place in East Islands Isla Vista, where
- 1:54:30Elliott Roger became an inceul deity in these online communities, an insult deity.
- 1:54:40Sure, I mean like you will, I mean you light about everything else,
- 1:54:45but I'm going to believe you now where we're gonna, we're gonna take
- 1:54:46your word for it. In twenty twenty three, the largest mass shooting within
- 1:54:51the US was out was in Allen, Texas. The shooters shared dozens of
- 1:54:56posts on a social media account celebrating radical misogynists, anti Semitic, and racist
- 1:55:00viewpoints. In his personal journal and forum posts, he used language commonly found
- 1:55:05within in cell communities when describing his interactions with women. Well, but that
- 1:55:11just means that he was experiencing the same thing that in cells did. The
- 1:55:16role of online creators and the radical content that the mass shooter consumed cannot be
- 1:55:20understated. His world view and personality had become shaped by the extremist content he
- 1:55:25found online the FBI, and not by the fact that he's dealing with a
- 1:55:30society that sees him solely in terms of women's benefit and just marginalizes his issues.
- 1:55:36That that can't be what's creating the destruction. No, the FBI and
- 1:55:42law enforcements, increased monitoring, you know what, Yeah, but do we
- 1:55:48even need to go through this? No? I think we know this is
- 1:55:54gonna be the same ship. It's always the same shit. Yeah, it's
- 1:55:57always the same ship. Here's here's the vend So you know, that's basically
- 1:56:01it. If you take if you take easy access to guns, misogyny and
- 1:56:08far right extremism, you get gun violence against women. It's that simple,
- 1:56:13guys, Just disarm, brainwash, and I guess, like make everyone into
- 1:56:18communists and it's all good. We'll be fine. That'll eliminate all three of
- 1:56:24those things, and all of a sudden, we'll live in the utopia for
- 1:56:27women. I mean, men will be suicidal and depressed and purposeless and directionless,
- 1:56:30but who gives a shit fuck them, they're not people. But women
- 1:56:33will be safe at last when men have become disarmed, bug eating, pod
- 1:56:42living communists that love women unconditionally but don't talk to them or look them in
- 1:56:49the eye or anything like that. Just like, you know, just keep
- 1:56:51them safe, but don't actually ask for anything or expect anything from them,
- 1:56:56and then we'll be good, because that's literally what this ven diagram asks.
- 1:57:00And they have no right to any of their own preferences at all. Like
- 1:57:03that's all of this is just poisoning the well. First of all, it's
- 1:57:09not a hell of a lot of stuff here. They also talk about a
- 1:57:13former student from the University of Waterloo. The attack took place during Pride Month
- 1:57:16and is believed by investigators we hate motivated incident related to gender expression and gender.
- 1:57:21We don't know that. But the other thing is that isn't that the
- 1:57:25one that was potentially gender fluid? I don't know. I mean there have
- 1:57:30been a number of incidents committed or perpetuated by trends. Act twenty twenty three
- 1:57:39the US. The United States again broke its record for mass shootings in a
- 1:57:43year. That's mass shootings, and there's no indication that twenty twenty four will
- 1:57:46be different. As individuals spend more time online and are continually exposed to increasingly
- 1:57:51radical and violent content, we can expect this trend of online to offline violence
- 1:57:56to continue to proliferate. So the increase in crime the last few years is
- 1:58:00not due to certain immigration policies or defunding the police or single moms. It's
- 1:58:11due to online misogyny. M of course. Yeah, It's the one thing
- 1:58:20that men are most primed to do is hate women. Oh women, women,
- 1:58:26I'm missfolk, hate women, all of that. Like that, That
- 1:58:31couple of paragraphs justifies this entire document about how men don't have a right to
- 1:58:36their sexual preferences. Gen z Shift, how a younger generation is influenced by
- 1:58:42the manisphere. Men and boys from the generation z are more prone to feminism
- 1:58:46at prone to view feminism is harmful compared to their counterparts in the baby room
- 1:58:50or generation. I'm just going to read the first sentence of each paragraph.
- 1:58:55A twenty twenty two report released in the UK highlighted that seventy percent of teachers
- 1:58:59are funding are reported experiencing misogyny from students in that year. Well, of
- 1:59:03course the students who are vulnerable, they're the teachers should be investigated for harming
- 1:59:11their teachers. What's hotly again? What the authority is sort of inversed here,
- 1:59:15Like teachers don't have to take responsibility for their authority over their students.
- 1:59:19Their students have to take responsibility for how they affect their teachers. In twenty
- 1:59:27twenty three, in Australian study found widespread evidence of sexual harassment, sexism and
- 1:59:30misogyny perpetuated Boy Bye Boys towards women teachers, and the ominous presence of Andrew
- 1:59:36Tate in shaping that behavior. Lou he was lumining over the students in spiritual
- 1:59:44form is when they struck when they put him in jail and struck him down,
- 1:59:48he became more powerful than they could possibly imagine. Again, how many
- 1:59:53of these female teachers are actually abusing these boys, loosing them. I know,
- 1:59:59I know. If these women can't handle boys getting lippy with them,
- 2:00:02they shouldn't be teachers. They should get male teachers in there. But you
- 2:00:06know, can't do that. Maybe they're raped boys too, however, Yeah,
- 2:00:12probably the countries like the UK and Australia. The US is far behind
- 2:00:18its contempor counterparts and the research the pervasive and growing effects of misogyny. All
- 2:00:24Right, so we've found things that like they female staff and juvenile detention facilities
- 2:00:32are basically praying it's basically open season on the male, the male, the
- 2:00:36young, the boys in those facilities. Right, we find a high degree
- 2:00:42of sexual abuse by female teachers towards male students in schools, and we're we're
- 2:00:48also like, statistically there's a large amount of boys in high schools and colleges
- 2:00:55who report sexual abuse, often by a women. Okay, that's not important.
- 2:01:03What's important is Andrew Tate, the looming shadow of Andrew Tate. If
- 2:01:10you want to get rid of, you know, men who are more misogynists,
- 2:01:17shall we say, often have been sexually abused by women. If we
- 2:01:25want to get rid of the one perhaps we should address the other instead of
- 2:01:29creating these retarded reports justifying why men shouldn't have the right to their sexual preferences,
- 2:01:36why women should be able to force men to make the decisions that they
- 2:01:41prefer, Like, I don't know, maybe I'm getting into the weeds.
- 2:01:48Well maybe we should if you're going for two hours and it's like nine o'clock.
- 2:01:53Just one last section, an empathy driven lens into online misogyny. Do
- 2:01:58you see that section for vulnerable, confused, and lonely men who we don't
- 2:02:05really care about except how they affect women. It's hard to resist the siren
- 2:02:10song of the manisphere. In the bosom of Silver Toung Manisphere influencers, these
- 2:02:15men find a space where their struggles are validated. Well are they not valid
- 2:02:21Like so basically what they're getting is a validation for their pain from these groups.
- 2:02:28But you can't validate their pain because if you were to validate it,
- 2:02:31if the ideologues who produce this document were to validate the struggles of men and
- 2:02:39the situation they're in, they would have to call into question their ideology.
- 2:02:45So they're not going to do it, So you're never going to have their
- 2:02:47struggles validated by these people, They're always going to consist on giving them the
- 2:02:51box of nothing. They're tormentors, women or themselves are identified in the path
- 2:02:58to the successful realization of manhood is laid plainly before them. So they actually
- 2:03:01have some manhood that they can attain as opposed to what you give them,
- 2:03:06which is a box full of Yeah, masculinity is worthless except for it's responsible
- 2:03:14for all the evil in the world. Few other alcoves of the Internet can
- 2:03:17compete from this narrative. We hold two takeaways that will be explored in this
- 2:03:21section. One, the brand of masculinity that the men Manisphere content creators sell
- 2:03:28is harmful to men and boys. So apparently the brand of masculinity that validates
- 2:03:32men's struggles is harmful to men. Two. To address the danger of his
- 2:03:39manisphere on all of us, we must take men's issues seriously and adopt an
- 2:03:43empathic approach. Empathetic empathetic, empathetic approach to countering online extremism the harm of
- 2:03:53problematic metrics of manhood. The manisphere has tactfully seized tactfully maybe they mean tactically
- 2:04:03like tactically tactfully. Excuse me, excuse me? Excuse me while I see
- 2:04:10sees the sees this identity really quick? Do you mind if I just get
- 2:04:15in there? Just kidding, don't mind my grasp precarious masculinity and offered exactly
- 2:04:28what men want? And why is masculinity precarious? Maybe it's because we all
- 2:04:31live under an ideology that says that there's nothing good about it. Yeah,
- 2:04:35maybe a successful manho While philosophies vary in their teachings, the Manosphere gospel seems
- 2:04:43to be generally propound masculinity archetype that elevates dangerous qualities like unrealistic male aesthetics,
- 2:04:49substance abuse, and unhealthy emotional coping mechanisms. Men and boys who consume this
- 2:04:55message actively or subconsciously are being hurt. Wrong, No, I don't think
- 2:05:02so what And also, like the liver king is not a manisphere guy,
- 2:05:08He's just he's just a guy that does bodybuilding. Like, but of course
- 2:05:13they're going to tell us that that like going to the gym, that's also
- 2:05:16toxically masculine. Right. One such consequence of this messaging, especially that related
- 2:05:26to physical prowess and masculine aesthetics, is a rise of self harm and unhealthy
- 2:05:30fitness habits and men. Okay, what what are the what does the role
- 2:05:34of romance covers novels have in in pushing? Yeah? Where men getting this
- 2:05:42crazy idea that they should be fit to attract women? Where does that crazy
- 2:05:45idea come from? For example? But of course it has to come from
- 2:05:49men. I mean, we can say that the beauty ideal that's inflicted on
- 2:05:53women allegedly comes from men, but we can't say that, actually women do
- 2:05:58want muscular Men can't say that maybe that's inflicted by women. For example.
- 2:06:02Mena sphere of fitness content departs from accepted training and health content because of its
- 2:06:09promotion of Okay, don't care. You mean like, yeah, you're gonna
- 2:06:13blame the men who are like, okay, this is how you get swool
- 2:06:16to attract the ladies. Where do you think the pressure is coming from?
- 2:06:20Do you think that that men just invented this? Well, why don't we
- 2:06:24take steroids for no reason? We just we just decided that muscularity is desirable,
- 2:06:30and we just made women want us to be muscular? Is that what
- 2:06:32happened? Okay? I mean I don't I think that this is another thing
- 2:06:38too, is that when it comes to performance enhancing drugs, like for like
- 2:06:43steroids and stuff. I don't think that it's like a one. I think
- 2:06:45that it's and it's and it's not exclusively to men because women use them too,
- 2:06:49But it's it's not like a one sided conversation. There's guys that are
- 2:06:55for it and there are guys that are against it. Just like everything else,
- 2:06:58there are people who are vegans or people who are carnival. There are
- 2:07:00people who you know, believe in fucking strength training, and there are people
- 2:07:04who believe in cardio. It's whatever, like this is not You're trying to
- 2:07:09make this into a thing, and it's not a thing, right, Okay,
- 2:07:13So all right, so this this document goes on to call out men
- 2:07:18who talk about the grindset, you know, like getting getting rich, getting
- 2:07:23a business. Yeah what And so the conclusion is this, so you go
- 2:07:28to the gym, you get a job, you have a business, you
- 2:07:30get wealth, and you get fit. What is most problematic about Menace of
- 2:07:33Your Content is the impact impact of superficial masculinity on men's mental health. As
- 2:07:40discussed, the frequently unattainable ideals of manhood that these speakers elevate, alienate,
- 2:07:47and marginalize the masculinity of a great deal of men who don't fit these ideals.
- 2:07:53All right, what version of masculinity are you offering men? Because from
- 2:07:58what I see, all you're offering them is a big box of nothing.
- 2:08:03And if they're if the alternatively, what's in that big box of nothing is
- 2:08:07a whole bunch of blame and shame. So masculinity has no worth except it
- 2:08:11is responsible for everything bad in the world, So it sort of has worth
- 2:08:15as escapegoat because what are and what does that have to do? Like they're
- 2:08:20saying telling men, get get fit, get a job, get wealthy.
- 2:08:26These are unobtainable ideas. Their share is hell more obtainable than the absolute nothing
- 2:08:31you want men to be like you get you offer men nothing. Yeah,
- 2:08:37you don't say this is how you become a man, you see, you
- 2:08:39don't even say that's desirable to have a male identity. You'll offer them fucking
- 2:08:46nothing, and you wonder why you know you have you have your booth and
- 2:08:52you're like, hey, dudes, how would you like a bunch of hot
- 2:08:54fried nothing? Give me your money? No thanks, I got called to
- 2:09:00one. And then you're confused why men are walking past your booth of nothing
- 2:09:07or even hey, we'll shame the hell out of you. We'll tell you
- 2:09:09that your gender identity is worthless and that if you take any kind of positive
- 2:09:15identity from it, you are an asshole who hates women and you feel superior
- 2:09:18to them. We'll give you some shame and blame. That's what we offer.
- 2:09:22And you're wondering why men and boys are walking past you, I mean,
- 2:09:28not even all of them, some are still like, yeah, here,
- 2:09:30I deserve that. You know, a lot of them are walking past
- 2:09:33you, or the ones who come to your booth leave your booth and then
- 2:09:37kill themselves, and then you don't have any customers because your customers are killing
- 2:09:43themselves. Well, you wonder why that's happening. Because an unobtainable ideal of
- 2:09:50manhood is better than no absolutely no worth to manhood whatsoever. And these guys
- 2:10:01do not understand that. They refuse to understand that because they don't want anything
- 2:10:05that excludes women. Yep, what's most problem at Okay, they are sent
- 2:10:15on a fool's errand becoming this mythical paragon of masculinity who consort with women like
- 2:10:20currency have tons of car smoke cigars all the time and have a steroid in
- 2:10:22deduced physique. Incidentally, that is the only thing that that stereotype is like
- 2:10:28the only thing feminists left to masculinity after they reduced the masculinity norms index to
- 2:10:33almost nothing. When he used to be being a provider, being a father,
- 2:10:37being a community minded, being responsible, upholding the expectations and all that,
- 2:10:43No, they got rid of all of that because that could also apply
- 2:10:46to women. And then they just left this playboy materialist as the only thing
- 2:10:52that men could be, could could aspire to, to be different, to
- 2:10:56differentiate them from women. And what a surprise, it's a playboy materialist that
- 2:11:01men aspire to. You Now, this was of course of No man will
- 2:11:11realize they're self worth from this path, no, so okay, I will
- 2:11:16stop assuming what they're gonna do. In fact, they will likely worsen their
- 2:11:20self esteem following this toxic dogma off a cliff manisphere. Disciples lack the tools
- 2:11:26to process these negative emotions in cells, encourage effusive, self deprecating whining.
- 2:11:33Jeez, that's not judgmental. Alpha males preaches pseudo stoicism that really involves bottling
- 2:11:39up your emotions and to it all with you have the most noxious content creator
- 2:11:45of all, denouncing therapy and pugning the legitimacy of mental of the mental health
- 2:11:48struggle. Okay, then they go off into the Andrew Tate. Okay,
- 2:11:52I'm gonta even pune it right. The Association say, the American Psychological Association
- 2:12:01is moving towards regarding masculinity as a mental health problem. Like right now,
- 2:12:09they're saying masculinity increases your likelihood of having mental health problems. So they're groping
- 2:12:16towards just calling masculinity a mental health problem. There's a little bit of a
- 2:12:22step. I don't know, there's a little bit of light between the two
- 2:12:24things at the moment, because they're saying masculinity or adherence to traditional masculinity increases
- 2:12:30your likelihood of having mental health issues, right, because men are more likely
- 2:12:35to commit suicide. Therefore, the problem is their gender identity. So people
- 2:12:41who are informed by nonsense like that are not the best people. And they
- 2:12:46also basically say that men adhere to their gender identity because they hate women.
- 2:12:50And what I mean by that is they just don't want to be They're femophobes.
- 2:12:54They think that women are lesser. Therefore, they want to keep that
- 2:12:58unique identity, unique value proposition that they feel like men have, and if
- 2:13:03they didn't just hate women, they would let go of that and avail themselves
- 2:13:09of all of the positive benefit of the feminine mindset when it comes to mental
- 2:13:13health. But because they don't, they kill themselves, and that's their own
- 2:13:16fault. Do you really think that that's a good message for men who are
- 2:13:20struggling with mental health issues? Because I don't. All right, So they
- 2:13:24finally get to their point, what is the point of acknowledging the struggles of
- 2:13:28men? There is a body of feminist scholarship that suggests over emphasis on men's
- 2:13:31mental health and the pity for me, Oh no, playing to the grieved
- 2:13:37entitlement delusion and enabling victimhood mentality. Oh so you recognize that on your side
- 2:13:46there is a whole bunch of contempt that is heaped on men for any kind
- 2:13:52for any kind of perceived vulnerability. Do you see that? They just recognize
- 2:13:56that. Yeah, but you don't go a step further and realize, hey,
- 2:14:01maybe our ideology is causing a lot of resentment because it heaps contempt on
- 2:14:07men for having any vulnerabilities. Maybe it's causing a lot of resentment in men.
- 2:14:11No, you don't take that step, because that resentment has to be
- 2:14:16completely illegitimate. While there's merit to mindfulness about the way we extend empathy to
- 2:14:22perpetrators of harm. Oh good, okay, here we go, here we
- 2:14:26go. Yeah, right off the bat. You're already wrong, Like,
- 2:14:28right off the bat. Men, it's no longer men, it's perpetrators of
- 2:14:33harm. The path forward is not paved with pointed fingers and blanket demonization,
- 2:14:39which you just did. Like, did you notice that men was replaced with
- 2:14:43perpetrators of harm? Yeah, of course. Yeah. They're saying they're saying
- 2:14:48that these men are in fact monsters, but obviously all men, because all
- 2:14:54men be vulnerable to these things. By neglecting campassion for those we do problematic
- 2:15:01and dangerous, we've engaged humanity's greatest folly forgetting to see ourselves and other people.
- 2:15:07God, you're disgusting. Oh my god, this is so gross.
- 2:15:11Man. This the empathetic reproach. And again, most of this stuff is
- 2:15:18calling out men for having preferences sexually, so calling out men for having the
- 2:15:22audacity of believing they have a right to say no. The empathetic approach doesn't
- 2:15:30forgive, enable, justify, or excuse men's right to say no. Like
- 2:15:35most of the again, most of this is just it's just a document about
- 2:15:39Yeah, men, you don't have a right to decide where and when you
- 2:15:41can sent to sex or relationships with. The empathetic approach doesn't forgive, enable,
- 2:15:50justifier, excuse. If you're listening to me and you're a man,
- 2:15:56you have every right to decide when and where you have sex with, whom
- 2:16:00you have sex with, whom you have a relationship with. You have every
- 2:16:03right to your preferences. And don't let this rapey bullshit tell you different,
- 2:16:07because it is rapey bullshit And it's unbelievable that they are framing the idea that
- 2:16:13men have the right to say no as toxic, abusive perpetration of harm.
- 2:16:24The emphatic approach just seeks to paint a complete picture. If the manisphere ran
- 2:16:30on pure malice and evil, it would have died a long time ago.
- 2:16:33The meat of toxic masculinity is lost men finding the wrong answers. Actually sure,
- 2:16:41if the manisphere ran on pure malice and evil, and you believe that
- 2:16:48men have the same thread or the same part of their body that would support
- 2:16:54this idea, because obviously you feel like the manisphere is dangerous enough that you
- 2:16:58have to intervene because men aren't going to step up. If it was true,
- 2:17:03you wouldn't be able to write this piece, like men would just run
- 2:17:05shit. If men wanted to run shit, they would just run shit.
- 2:17:09And six sixteen people that worked on this, and eleven of them were women.
- 2:17:13They would just not have jobs. They would just not have it.
- 2:17:16Like the fact that you can, they they shouldn't. But I'm saying the
- 2:17:20fact that they can write this piece and get money from the government is proof
- 2:17:26against the case they're trying to make, like it it exists that men are
- 2:17:31letting you do this is proof that they are not what you think they are.
- 2:17:37And when you say if the manscapt ran up pure mouse and evil like,
- 2:17:41you wouldn't be able to stop them, is what I'm saying, not
- 2:17:43without appealing to other men, Well, look at what they're choosing to spend
- 2:17:46money on. They're choosing to spend money on a document that essentially problematizes men's
- 2:17:52preferences for sex and relationship. You had of money on sexual service, like
- 2:17:58sexual abuse services for men and boys. They have money on intervening when these
- 2:18:03kind of things happen, money on men's issues, actually on men's issues.
- 2:18:07They're choosing to spend money on how to get men back into benefiting women rather
- 2:18:13than actually choosing to spend money on helping men. That is our society in
- 2:18:22a nutshell. The meat of toxic masculinity is lost men finding the wrong answers.
- 2:18:28What are but what are the answers that these people are offering? We
- 2:18:31won't help them find the right ones unless we see them as the vulnerable and
- 2:18:35flawed human beings that they are. By preserving rapport, trust, and respect
- 2:18:39for the human decency of all manosphere, countermeasures will be far more forthcoming,
- 2:18:45and the community of tolerance and kindness that we use to entice them back will
- 2:18:48be so much more warm and inviting. What was that one podcast? What
- 2:18:52are you calling it? Victimhood blackjack? Yeah, yeah, I forgot,
- 2:18:56I already closed the window. Victimhood research does not demand the vilification of violent
- 2:19:03perpetrators, but we should vilify violent poor portrators and we are men Enough was
- 2:19:09the name of the podcast? Nor just empathetic intersectional blackjack absolve past wrongs or
- 2:19:16diminish their harms. Above everything, we must fight to preserve the humanity and
- 2:19:20everyone, no matter how horrible their actions. Like aside from the terror,
- 2:19:26like the people who engaged in violent action, who presumably now behind bars,
- 2:19:30meaning that the system works. What else do you have a problem with?
- 2:19:33Men having opinions, men having preferences, men saying no to women, men
- 2:19:39rejecting women like these are things that you just have to live with, right,
- 2:19:48Yeah, okay, key actors, holistic approach the manisphere. Are we
- 2:19:52doing this now? Yeah? Two and a half hours? Okay, a
- 2:19:58half hour. It will require a whole of society approach to tackle the intricate
- 2:20:01landscape of countering and preventing violent extremism and the manosphere and misogynist narratives. This
- 2:20:07section underscores the strategic and ethical considerations for practitioners and disseminating research advocates for tailored
- 2:20:15approaches. Blah blah blah. So what's the ethical consideration? I mean,
- 2:20:18you're dealing with a vulnerable group of people. Do you not push things that
- 2:20:22make them feel like they're more likely to be burdens on others? Yeah?
- 2:20:28And complex rule of very large platforms now, but what is it? Okay,
- 2:20:31ultimately, this is a lot of shit. What are they offering men
- 2:20:39like right now, it's a big box of nothing maybe you know plus sham
- 2:20:43well it dude, this is just it's just downstream and TDS like look at
- 2:20:48this right here, Okay, trends very large online platforms so on okay,
- 2:20:54very so they have this stupid pyramid whatever, and it says very online,
- 2:20:58large on line platforms on X there is an increasing normalization around misogynist hate speech
- 2:21:07endorsed by its CEO. So basically Elon Musk again an avatar, a symbol
- 2:21:13that they hate because he's a man that was like, I think I'm going
- 2:21:16to do some free speech on this platform. I'm not even saying that I
- 2:21:20like Elon Musk or whatever. I like what he did with Twitter. Okay,
- 2:21:24but they're saying this is dangerous because again they want to control the framing.
- 2:21:28He disrupts that they hate that, they hate him. They probably own
- 2:21:33his cars because they're fucking rich coastal elites that probably owned Tesla's, but they
- 2:21:39hate him anyway, And again it says here, you know, let's just
- 2:21:45a reinstatement of accounts includes so he reinstated people. Oh, don't do that.
- 2:21:50No one figures such as conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, another avatar and former
- 2:21:56US President Donald Trump. I already mentioned that TDS is real. Seen it.
- 2:22:00It's completely irrational, And the same goes for Elon Musk, Andrew Tate,
- 2:22:05whoever, Alex Shones, Stefan Moulinu. It doesn't matter, fucking like
- 2:22:09all, it's just straight white man or straight man that's white adjacent, has
- 2:22:13opinions. He is the enemy and he reflects everything that we hate. So
- 2:22:18they're just gonna name names. That's all it is. I hate this guy.
- 2:22:20I hate anyone who likes this guy. I'm surprised Tucker Carlos is not
- 2:22:24on here too, because he's basically just as bad Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson.
- 2:22:28It doesn't matter. I don't care what you think about those people.
- 2:22:31That's not the point. They have put him into a box. They're like,
- 2:22:35this is the bad man because he represents what we hate. It doesn't
- 2:22:39matter. It could be anyone, Okay, So this is what all they're
- 2:22:43doing is more of this. This is literally I don't is this like a
- 2:22:46woman thing? Is this a woman thing? Okay? Where is that discourse
- 2:22:50controlling this guy? Yeah, it's tone police in tone police in taking to
- 2:22:56the fucking federal level. All right, let's see improve terms and conditions.
- 2:23:01Okay, I just want to note that, so far as far as I
- 2:23:05can tell, they aren't actually offering anything for men. They aren't offering a
- 2:23:11positive identity, they are offering a route for excellence. They are offering anything
- 2:23:18nothing. They don't think that men have any kind of unique value proposition to
- 2:23:22give to the world. They think that men are avoid They're offering a big
- 2:23:26box of nothing. And alternatively, they offer you a role as a scapegoat
- 2:23:31for society. And when they offer nothing, they are con artists. Like
- 2:23:39they are attempting to con men. They're attempting to train it to to put
- 2:23:46their thumb on the scale so they can successfully con men into adopting their nothing,
- 2:23:52into getting nothing to pepressing nothing. Right, Okay, And this is
- 2:24:00what their plans are. So this is actually where it gets a little sinister.
- 2:24:03Well, it's already sinister. Improve terms and conditions. Large online platforms
- 2:24:11should explicitly include in cell ideology and hate speech or terrorism terms and conditions.
- 2:24:16Any post function should at least do a real increas yeah for problematic content before
- 2:24:22publication. Implement rigorous AI detection for high harmful content, increased censorship. It's
- 2:24:30AI should be used extensively to detect and flag harmful content. This includes the
- 2:24:33identification of in cell content, coupled with swift removal of content promoting Manisphere content
- 2:24:39that violates community guidelines. Again, a lot of their problem with this was
- 2:24:43men simply expressing a preference or rejecting women based on their behavior. So they
- 2:24:50don't want that, like, this is institutional rape. This is the first
- 2:24:56time in my life that I think I'm seeing rape culture. They don't want
- 2:25:01men to be able to publicly talk or validate their decisions about who they want
- 2:25:07in relationships or as sexual partners. Such mitigation measures will not only slowly on
- 2:25:13the growth of mana sphere influencer accounts, but also ensure that fan accounts do
- 2:25:16not have the opportunity to download and read use content more censorship, reduce amplifation.
- 2:25:22Can I make a point about meta. Meta is the Facebook project or
- 2:25:28whatever that Zuckerberg's putting together. It's dead in the water, and the reason
- 2:25:33is because it's anti free speech. Facebook is not a free speech platform at
- 2:25:39all by any stretch. They're in the pocket with the government, and these
- 2:25:41people are angry at Twitter because it's less like that, and so they want
- 2:25:46to bring it in line with meta. That's why they're using meta as a
- 2:25:50kind of what model example, But it's literally like no, it's terrible,
- 2:25:56terrible amplification of harmful narratives. Platforms need to do more to reduce the impact
- 2:26:01the echo chamber effect from algorithmic amplification of problematic narratives, more sensorship that don't
- 2:26:07promote their power narrative, their control, their big box, and nothing that
- 2:26:13they want to give men like you have Like this is what their message is.
- 2:26:16You have nothing of worth to give the world as a man, nothing
- 2:26:22of worth except despite the fact that you have nothing of worth to give it
- 2:26:26as a man, you are to blame for a society because you have patriarchal
- 2:26:31privilege. This is the message that they want to continue to push on men.
- 2:26:35And this is how they're going to do it through censorship, through putting
- 2:26:41their thumb on the scale, and through continuing to push their control. Their
- 2:26:46current control protect harmless content creators with content from non problematic content creators being used
- 2:26:52by Manisphere accounts to make points in support of their ideology. Better protection mechanisms
- 2:26:58need to be in place with the vast majority of content creators not to have
- 2:27:01the creations misused. So all the women saying I am the table are gonna
- 2:27:05have to be protected from men saying Look, women say that they are at
- 2:27:11the table. That means you have to be better than them to bring something
- 2:27:13to the table, whether it's cripple crip clipped from innocent street interviews or videos
- 2:27:20calling out disrespectful behavior at the gym, such as Joey's Swol. Manisphere influencers
- 2:27:24have used these content clips from the other creators to push mislogy in his viewpoints.
- 2:27:28For see for example, the red Pill Hub, Joey Swoll calls out
- 2:27:35women who are using false accusations to harm people, like what the so basically
- 2:27:45no, but what they're what they're saying is Joey Swol is okay because you
- 2:27:50know, no, he's not. They're not saying no, it says.
- 2:27:54Whether it's because or videos calling out disrespect behavior at the gym, usphere influencers,
- 2:28:01have you have used Yeah, so it's it's essentially saying to push oh
- 2:28:05so yeah, so it's using Joey Swoll to push misogynists. So they're trying
- 2:28:11to like side with him because he's not really a Manisphere creator and but but
- 2:28:18like Red Peel guys and Manispect people are like, oh, yeah, he's
- 2:28:20saying something that we agree with, and because we agree, they're saying that
- 2:28:26the people who like you shouldn't take out Joey Swoll. So basically because other
- 2:28:30people are using him, yeah, because Joey Swoll actually calls out the disrespectful
- 2:28:35behavior, and so Manisphere creators can't. Let's say, hey, this is
- 2:28:39the disrespectful behavior he's calling out. Yeah, but Joey Swall doesn't. He
- 2:28:43doesn't target women. He just goes up to toxic behavior at the gym.
- 2:28:46It just so happens that the stuff that goes viral and the stuff that he
- 2:28:50probably yeah, it's women, like, it's the stuff that becomes Here's really
- 2:28:52he's more likely to call out is the women is what women are doing.
- 2:28:56Face recognition and content moderation platforms should leverage further develop AI applications such as face
- 2:29:01recognition and alternative Yeah, of course crucial role in addressing the escalating challenge posed
- 2:29:09by the periferation of manasphre fan accounts, disemmoning content from band influencers. Oh
- 2:29:16so more censorship, more, more censorship, more control, more monitoring.
- 2:29:22This is basically just this is what happens when you This is feminine power like
- 2:29:28expressed like literally, like whenever you give women a little bit of power,
- 2:29:31they want to control men. And that's what's happening. I mean, that's
- 2:29:35all it is. I don't know how else to put it, like,
- 2:29:37I know it sounds I'm sorry to paint with a broad brush, but that's
- 2:29:41like what it looks like. What happens when crazy histrionic women are given a
- 2:29:46little bit of power. They want to monitor men. They want to control
- 2:29:48their preferences. They want to deny them like humanity because they're afraid of them.
- 2:29:56So they just go far but I won't, Yeah, our take protecting
- 2:30:01the people and the work, all right, So essentially they just want to
- 2:30:07use SA say, recognize that men are vulnerable. But instead of allowing men
- 2:30:15to go towards content creators that actually give them a sense of purpose and worthy,
- 2:30:22they they these again, what is what are these people offering men?
- 2:30:28Notice? How that's that is? That detailed? Nothing they want to monitor
- 2:30:31them, they want to control them. That's all. That's it. Yeah,
- 2:30:37our take protecting the people and the work. Of course, they mean
- 2:30:39themselves for Diverting Hate. Recent experiences have been a significant learning opportunity. We
- 2:30:45recognize that the research conducted has been co opted by the manosphere to portray themselves
- 2:30:50as martyrs. As a result, the Diverting Hate team has taken new approaches
- 2:30:56to publishing our research, acknowledging the potential risks associated with public access to the
- 2:31:01research and prioritizing the safety of the team and the integrity of the work.
- 2:31:05This shift and approach aims to mitigate the unintended consequences of the findings being misrepresented
- 2:31:11or weaponized, while still allowing Diverting Hate to continue our efforts in a more
- 2:31:16secure environment. You are a publicly funded NGO, tax money goes to you,
- 2:31:26What you do should be public. How practitioners can do the hard work
- 2:31:33and be safe, and the dynamic landscape of countering preventing violent extremism. The
- 2:31:37responsibility of violent extremism just giving men an idea that they have worth. The
- 2:31:43responsibility of practitioners extends beyond conducting rigorous research and to include the thoughtful and ethical
- 2:31:50dissemination of findings. Think strategically and ethically about what research actually needs to be
- 2:31:56public facing. For many organizations working in the count and preventing violent extremism space,
- 2:32:01bringing general awareness to the public is mission critical. However, serious consideration
- 2:32:05needs to go whether it interferes with other mission critical activities, such as in
- 2:32:11the keys of diverting hate working together with our partner organizations to stop people from
- 2:32:15falling further into the rabbit hole of the manisphere. Not only functional but also
- 2:32:20ethical considerations need to go into the decision of where and what to sell to
- 2:32:24share publicly, so they're basically gating their own content because they're worried about how
- 2:32:30it makes them look. Okay that podcast that they promote man enough. I
- 2:32:39want to know, does it offer anything any kind of unique value that men
- 2:32:45offer to society, unique to them any at all? Does it have any
- 2:32:50kind of recognition of what men are doing currently in society to sustain it?
- 2:32:58Does it do any of that? Does it offer any kind of path forward
- 2:33:03or does it just offer condemnation, victimhood, blackjack and more dehumanizing crap as
- 2:33:11well as being having being uniquely positioned by these powerful institutions to be advanced ahead
- 2:33:22of any other content, like we're not at seventy one thousand freaking subscribers,
- 2:33:28but they are happened. What is happening here is really simple. When you
- 2:33:37strip young men of a positive identity, they become violent, and extremism doesn't
- 2:33:45come necessarily into in celts. There's also extremism when it comes to Islamic extremism,
- 2:33:52ideological extremism of other kinds, and stripes male feminists, male feminist extremism.
- 2:34:00All of this, this extremism comes when you strip young men of an
- 2:34:03identity. That is what's happening. It is as simple as that. But
- 2:34:07you don't want to give them an identity because you find it beneficial to control
- 2:34:11them when they don't have one, because then you can make them work for
- 2:34:18it. Prepare for research to circulate in the community of intervention. There is
- 2:34:22a high likelihood that research will be interpreted as an attack or ideological smear.
- 2:34:28However, as researchers, we must be guided by the same ethical considerations granted
- 2:34:33to other research subjects. Concretely, this means respecting the individuals within the community
- 2:34:39by ensuring their voices are accurately represented and their privacy is protected. Avoiding sensationalism
- 2:34:46and presenting research findings and prioritizing dignity and well being of all. Consider multiple
- 2:34:52interpretations really define every term that's not straightforward standing behind our research and team is
- 2:35:03an organization, proper operational site security support US period, Like, don't question
- 2:35:09it? Yeah? Are you sure we shouldn't just keep going because this sounds
- 2:35:13like it's really critical to get out there. Yeah, but it's two and
- 2:35:18a half hours. It's nine thirty nine over here. I mean we started
- 2:35:22late. Okay, Okay, let's finish it. How men's wellness orgs can
- 2:35:28meet men in the manisphere speaking their language. When engaging individuals and groups within
- 2:35:33the manisphere, it is essential to exercise caution and aligning with the direct,
- 2:35:37distinct preferences of each groups. Utilizing language and themes that resonate with specific groups
- 2:35:43allows for a sense of belonging and interest among the positive male organizations that are
- 2:35:46promoted. However, it is imperative to avoid using language that is derogatory or
- 2:35:50hateful towards women, as this could further reinforce misogynist biases within these groups.
- 2:35:56So you can't actually recognize that men have preferences and women and can be bad
- 2:36:00actors. Likewise, it's essential to avoid using language that perpetrates victimhood or romanticizes
- 2:36:05individual lifestyle choices that acts as acts of martyrdom. Instead, we should strive
- 2:36:11to strike a balance that validates diverse perspectives without endorsing harmful believe you don't believe
- 2:36:16in diverse perspectives, Fuck off, Taylor, you don't. It's all fake
- 2:36:20news. It's phony stuff. It didn't happen. Tailoring messages to cater to
- 2:36:26specific groups of men is essential acknowledging the limitations of one size fits all approach.
- 2:36:33Okay, emphasizing the unique aspects and the male experience becomes crucial, validating
- 2:36:39and highlighting perspectives in a way that fosters connection. I'm curious. I feel
- 2:36:43like, ah, this is bullshit, Like they're they're not gonna do that.
- 2:36:46They're gonna they're gonna direct guys towards a certain kind of of a model
- 2:36:52of manhood that they believe. It's very narrow, it's very safe, none
- 2:36:56of then, I don't think they're being honest about any of this. I
- 2:37:01don't think. Well, yeah, but like that's what I'm saying. What
- 2:37:03they're it says, emphasize the unique aspects of the male experience. It's all
- 2:37:09just bullshit language. Man, it's amazing you said a whole truload of words
- 2:37:13that had no meaning. Okay, and and there. It's ultimately about like
- 2:37:18it's like talking to a child to get them to behave without like using like
- 2:37:22mean language. But you want you want them to behave a certain way,
- 2:37:26so you just say, oh, look, I'm just I'm just emphasizing your
- 2:37:28unique aspects of you. But at the end of the day, you're going
- 2:37:31to act like all the other men, which is essentially you're not allowed to
- 2:37:35have preferences, you're not allowed to have opinions, you're not allowed to be
- 2:37:39angry. All you can do is and you can't like hold it in,
- 2:37:43So all you can do is cry, be depressed and maybe suicidal. But
- 2:37:46that's not my fault, that's yours. That's what it's going to look like.
- 2:37:50Yep, there's no there's no conversation about men's issues. There's no conversation
- 2:37:54about recognizing unique things that men bring to society. Corporates beach developed bying advertisements
- 2:38:01that incorporate themes from different manisphere groups can stimulate interest and engagement. Segmentting themes
- 2:38:07into general manaspher categories and exclusive themes excuse me for specific groups allowed for a
- 2:38:13nuanced approach. Advertising questions related to dating and sex with pickup artist community or
- 2:38:18issues like divorce's fatherhood and suicide rates for MIGTEL and MRA MRM groups can be
- 2:38:22done using their own statistics and concerns without blaming women for systemic issues. Then
- 2:38:28who do we wait? Wha wha wha whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa?
- 2:38:31What workers is about? Blame men? Oh? I see? So we
- 2:38:33can use all the data that we have and then we blame patriarchy for it
- 2:38:37instead. Because they're saying without blaming women, but women can never do any
- 2:38:43wrong. They're angelic, they're perfect. If men suffer, even if a
- 2:38:48woman is like splashing with acid because she thought that like he had another woman
- 2:38:54on his phone, but it turned out it was just for when she was
- 2:38:56younger, that's just patriarchy. It's not women. Women can't do anything bad.
- 2:39:01That's impossible without blaming women for systemic issues. What the hell does that
- 2:39:05even mean? It's it's not only would you blame men for systemic issues like
- 2:39:13that's that's almost the entirety of the ideology. It's divorce from reality, Like
- 2:39:16this is just divorce from reality. They obviously they're criticizing something they don't even
- 2:39:22understand. Well, they're because they're making shit up. Is that there can
- 2:39:26be nothing negative that comes from the feminine. So because women would as a
- 2:39:31group might act in a certain way which might look like it's systemic, So
- 2:39:35you can't actually point that out. Well, there goes all of comedy.
- 2:39:41Well, I mean, what's what is the divorce courts and what are the
- 2:39:46family courts? That if not a system? Like I mean, you can't
- 2:39:50blame men for being simps, So we can't say, well, actually,
- 2:39:52a lot of the family court problem is men who don't recognize the importance of
- 2:39:56fathers in their in their children's lives. We can't do that because that's calling
- 2:40:01out simping. Okay, So we just basically can't blame women or men for
- 2:40:07a society that chooses to ignore men's issues in order to continue to benefit supposedly
- 2:40:13women. In targeting specific audience is associated with particular influencers, using the language
- 2:40:20employed by those influencers is essential. Okay, you know what, Okay,
- 2:40:26I'm going to tell you how to just easily slice through the crap that they're
- 2:40:30the fog that they're creating. Honesty is a fundamental aspect of a successful outreach.
- 2:40:35By appealing to those who can relate to personal experiences and perspectives, and
- 2:40:39an honest and relatable dialogue is established. Ironic promoting an uplifting version of manhood
- 2:40:46is advocating. Framing those efforts is an evolution towards higher ideals rather than deconstruction.
- 2:40:52Deconstructing traditional notions, but deconstructing traditional notions is the ultimate goal. Drawing
- 2:40:58inspiration from content creators who understand what empowers meant give me instrumental in developing effective
- 2:41:05community strategies. Losing terms like brotherhood, community support, and self empowerment conveys
- 2:41:11emotional vulnerability positively. Why so you can draw in the emotionally vulnerable in order
- 2:41:20to redirect them towards seeing how they could be potentially dangerous to women. Menosphere
- 2:41:26guys use those terms already, so they're pretending they're making this shut up,
- 2:41:31but they're just taking it. They just don't like that we actually and I
- 2:41:37say we they don't like that we actually have influence over men and we're not
- 2:41:41demonizing them, and they're walking away from this shit, and they're like,
- 2:41:45well, we can't have that because we want to control men. That's what
- 2:41:48it is. There's two options. Men continue to listen to these people,
- 2:41:54continue to see themselves as burdens and kill themselves or just die inside, or
- 2:42:03they get away from it and go towards people who actually present a positive view
- 2:42:07of manhood. I mean, like, that's it. Those are the two
- 2:42:13options. If you don't want to actually recognize man men as having a unique
- 2:42:18value, then you offer them nothing. Avoiding politically correct or overly academic jargon
- 2:42:24is imperative, as these terms may disengage the audience, regardless of whether they
- 2:42:28agree in principle. Okay, this is all bullshit. Like if you encounter
- 2:42:33these people, if you go down, you can see them. All you
- 2:42:37need to do is just ask yourself what do they offer? What do they
- 2:42:43offer? Do they offer recognition of your issues as a man? Do they
- 2:42:48offer you your ability to actually recognize that women are capable of being evil?
- 2:42:54Right? Do they offer you a recognition of your unique value as a man?
- 2:43:00If the answer is no. Then they offer nothing. Don't bother like
- 2:43:05what you're not getting anything from nothing. They're just they're just nothing. They
- 2:43:09got They give you a big box of nothing except for shame and blame,
- 2:43:16you know, like they're deconstructing the male identity. That's what they're doing.
- 2:43:22Say it. The one passingly positive thing they said was still at its core
- 2:43:26about deconstructing the male identity. And when they mean traditional masculinity, they mean
- 2:43:31anything that men bring to the table that is unique to them. That's what
- 2:43:37they mean, right, That's what they mean. Anything, Okay, and
- 2:43:45they that's it all right, So I think I know you want to get
- 2:43:48going. Well, the next section is a whole other show. I mean
- 2:43:54Will Adelphi interview about his book. Yes, it's like, I mean,
- 2:43:58it could be good, but it's the podcast are feti verse alternates fed versus
- 2:44:05evil clones that have been promoted to AISA. I'm pretty sure we're probably on
- 2:44:13some secret list somewhere. Oh good grief. So we've basically, as a
- 2:44:18society, we've decided to strip away men's identity based on a un proven conjecture,
- 2:44:26a conjecture that hasn't even gotten to the point of the first baby step
- 2:44:31of being proven right, then we've decided to do this, and then we
- 2:44:35have this government organization that's justifying it is trying to silence people because it doesn't
- 2:44:45want to deal with the knockdown, knock on effects of the destruction of the
- 2:44:50male identity, which also includes all this trans ideology. By the way,
- 2:44:54conservatives, we have superchoews. Else one, No, we have two,
- 2:45:03yes, two, so I have two superchows. One from anonymous. They
- 2:45:09say joke jokes enter language through introduction as redacted and reduced. That is a
- 2:45:18very sophisticated joke if that's a joke, because I don't get it. And
- 2:45:22then we got one for five dollars from feminist. Mid Wittery says feminists believe
- 2:45:26that men can both control the patriarchy just stop oppressing us, and cannot control
- 2:45:31the patriarchy. Patriarchy sometimes backfires and hurts men too. This is a contradiction,
- 2:45:37but when midwits encounter contradiction, they just pretend it does not exist and
- 2:45:41double down on the theory. When a scientist encounters a contradiction, such as
- 2:45:46the conflict between quantum mechanics and general relativity, the theories need to be fundamentally
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