Latest / Coaches Corner / WHOC Coach Chris MacKenzie Media Call - March 5
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- 0:04All right, coach heading into semifinal matchup against Boston College Borrow night, seven
- 0:09pm on sen Just I want to get your thoughts heading into into the game.
- 0:15Uh. Just excited to still playing, still be playing right now,
- 0:19You're basically playing for another sixty minutes. And uh, you know, ultimately
- 0:25we've had a lot of playoff games against BC over the years, and this
- 0:29will be another chapter in that story for sure. Awesome, all right,
- 0:34we'll open up for questions, Bridget if you want to start us off,
- 0:37you can go ahead and jump in. Okay, Hi, coach, all
- 0:41right there, congrats on the win. Uh So, from from my point
- 0:47of view obviously calling the game, watching, it seemed like you guys had
- 0:51a close to full sixty minute effort where you say that, yeah, it
- 0:56was. It was a good game. We were forts to get on the
- 1:00board early, you know, and credit to Holy Cross, they really battled
- 1:03back to try to you know, cloud their way back into the game and
- 1:07gave us everything we can handle. And I think that's something that we're going
- 1:11to be have to be ready for with BC. You know, we we
- 1:14haven't actually we haven't defeated them this year, so this is going to be
- 1:17a big test, and we're looking forward to it. I know we talked
- 1:21a little bit about about this before the game, about nerves and pressure,
- 1:26but it didn't seem like you guys came out and played with any of that
- 1:29at all. Like I didn't. From my perspective, I didn't notice any
- 1:32nerves, did you. No? I mean we get we stuck to our
- 1:36game plan and did what we need to do, and then the first period
- 1:38was tight. After that, I felt like we started to control the game
- 1:42a little more and they're goaling made some big saves and you're just, you
- 1:45know, obviously fortunate. We would have liked to get out of the second
- 1:48period three nothing made it three to one, and uh, you know that's
- 1:52part of the reason why, Like I used to have hair and I coach
- 1:55and now I don't. So that's now you know why. And if you
- 1:57want to get into coaching, you're to look like me, and I don't.
- 2:00I don't advise anyone to do that, to be quite honest with you,
- 2:06Well, you said you you used dad jokes to take away the pressure
- 2:08and the nerves. Did you feel like you were doing that a little bit?
- 2:13Yeah? Here and there, Yeah, there's some side jokes we have
- 2:17as a team, and it's, uh, you know, we just have
- 2:21fun with it, try to fun with it. You know. It's it's
- 2:23it should be a great experience, and it's we've been pretty consistent this year
- 2:28and and and uh yeah, there's a great team to be around our group.
- 2:34I'll let Tom go if he wants to go anyone right now, this
- 2:39is all right, Well, Chris, since you brought, since you broached
- 2:45the topic, give me your go to dad jokes. No, I'll just
- 2:50what I'll do is like during the week, I'll come up with a story
- 2:54or a theme and and like I'll just say it on the bench at the
- 2:58most weirdest time and it kind of makes them laugh here and there. It
- 3:01could be anything, you know, like one time, like one time,
- 3:06I'll give an example. One time it's called can opener. And one time
- 3:09we were just kind of fooling around. It was like, so a player
- 3:12was pinning the puck against the boards. I'm like, if they do this,
- 3:14do this and I put their stick between the boards and the player,
- 3:16you just peel them off. It's really easy. And we call it the
- 3:20can opener. And they're like, literally it was happening in the game,
- 3:23like kids on the team are screaming can opener. So it's just like something
- 3:25stupid. It's all inside jokes and weird stuff that no one's gonna get.
- 3:30But I don't know, it's kind of funny. Yeah, bring some levity
- 3:32to an otherwise stressful situation. Well, you know, every sport obviously is
- 3:38different. What what's unique about the process of building a winning program in this
- 3:44sport? Now you don't have a lot of margin for era on eleven teams
- 3:46make the tournament, But what what And obviously they're only so many teams that
- 3:53play it and only so many players. But what what are the you know,
- 3:57what are the unique elements of success in this sport? I think it's
- 4:00just having a fully committed group of players that are cohesive, have a consistent
- 4:06everyday approach. And look, you need talent, that's one thing. But
- 4:15I think the difference is like if you just have a have a group of
- 4:18people that like being around each other every day. I think in any in
- 4:21anything work sports, you're usually going to get positive results, and that's kind
- 4:29of that's kind of the case. It's more or less, you know,
- 4:31people that work hard every day, they're consistent, they care, they take
- 4:34care of the right things, they're not distracted with the wrong things, and
- 4:39they control what they can control. That's a lot of things that as cliche
- 4:42as it sounds, it is what it is like. If you you know,
- 4:46it's like that, and if you mix in some talent with that in
- 4:48a solid approach, usually you know, the results speak themselves. It's more
- 4:54of a culture thing than anything. When you came to Yukon, what was
- 4:58your perception of what was here, of this school of the program and what
- 5:00what was your first thing that you felt like you needed to do it was
- 5:05it was my first got here. You know. The team, the team
- 5:10had struggled the last two years, like four wins, three wins. I
- 5:13think they were they were conditioned that if they got down in a game,
- 5:17it was pretty much over. They were kind of conditioned to think that that
- 5:20took some time to get over. We had some great, great players on
- 5:26those early teams. I just think that it just took a few years to
- 5:29kind of change the mindset and the competitiors and we reprect progressively got better over
- 5:33the years. You can see the record results wise, but I'll tell you,
- 5:39like the culture was always always there. The team got along, they
- 5:42all worked together. It was always kind of there. We just didn't mess
- 5:45it up, to be brutally honest, and our job was to bring in
- 5:49great players, and the current players their job was to make sure that,
- 5:55you know, they were right there with them and guiding them the right way.
- 5:59And I think it took some time, but it wasn't a quick fix
- 6:02by any means. But it was progressively getting better all the time. That's
- 6:06really what it was. What what some of them said was fun coming to
- 6:11the rank. They said it wasn't really fun the last few years, and
- 6:15obviously results has something to do that, but the environment wasn't as much fun
- 6:18coming to the rank. So we really tried to make sure that they were
- 6:20looking forward to it every day and and you know, I think we succeeded
- 6:26with that, and we try to do that every year. So what's the
- 6:30prototype, Chris McKenzie player. I think somebody that off the ice takes care
- 6:35of their business like school, being a good citizen, organize good time management
- 6:43so they can come to the rank it free of any any issues outside of
- 6:46the rink, and they're able to focus on their game. People that put
- 6:49in the extra work. They're prepared, they're willing to prepare for an opponent,
- 6:56hard work and the competitive and every member of your team is three point
- 6:59zero right, Yeah, we like that. Yeah, I don't do very
- 7:02well if I'm worried about crazy stuff on Monday, prepare for the weekend.
- 7:06If we're worried about write ups with social misconduct or academic issues, I'm not
- 7:12going to do. I don't have a lot of patience for that because it's
- 7:15it's it's a great opportunity here, like any school, any place, it's
- 7:18a great opportunity to take care of those things and have the right priorities.
- 7:24So if your priorities are your well being, your family, school in hockey,
- 7:28if you keep those priorities in every decision you make, you're probably going
- 7:31to be in a good place. At least with me coaching, it feels
- 7:35like most of your team probably falls under that category. But who would you
- 7:40say epitomize is that? Yeah, there's a bunch. There's a bunch,
- 7:46you know it. Our captain Einsley s Fedek and Corinth Tormale are both they're
- 7:50overachievers there. They do well with school. They they put a lot of
- 7:55pressure on themselves if anything, because they care so much, but they just
- 7:59they they're not simizing their potential, and that's really all you want out of
- 8:01all your players. Catherine Stockdale another example, somebody that the best defensive ward
- 8:07this year really took it up a notch for senior year and she just,
- 8:11uh yeah, pleasure to be around, you know, Jada Havish, You
- 8:15know you consistent, consistent people to show up, and that's kind of what
- 8:18you need. So no one's perfect. We're all going to make mistakes.
- 8:20We don't want to dwell on them too long. But it uh, it's
- 8:26it's yeah, it's a fun group to be around. I don't know if
- 8:30anyone else has any questions, but I still have quite a few. More
- 8:31so it's okay, I'm gonna ask if you sure. And I want to
- 8:35go back to specifically to the Holy Cross game. You mentioned it would have
- 8:41been nice to have that three nothing lead instead of three to one going going
- 8:45into the next period. But I thought you didn't see a whole lot of
- 8:48shots, But what did you think? Keep the game? No, she's
- 9:01been solid. We have confidence in her, confidence in Meg Warner two.
- 9:05You know it. Uh yeah, we we we Uh, no issues there
- 9:09with t She's doing great. Karen. That the power play goal seemed to
- 9:18give you guys quite a bit of energy. That the powerfully looked like it
- 9:22was clicking pretty well, a lot of good pop movement. But specifically to
- 9:28Karen's game, what did you think of her? Oh, she was great,
- 9:33She was choot. She had a lot of peppen her step. For
- 9:37sure, she was going. So that was great to see. I think
- 9:39the team drived off that. You know, she got cheat on the board.
- 9:43She's she's going to be happy and confident, right, So that that's
- 9:46kind of what I saw too. Yeah, to me, it seemed like
- 9:50she was just brought that same energy throughout the entire game. And another player
- 9:58that I mean you you guys seem to dominate. The Special teams battle had
- 10:03the shorthanded goal too from Havish. Uh what did you think of your special
- 10:09teams and what did you think of Havish's game as well? Yeah, Jada
- 10:13was really going. I was really happy for the short handed goal. And
- 10:18look, she's been going all year. She's been consistent, strong, some
- 10:22ups and downs here and there, but really just giving her best effort and
- 10:26producing, you know, and That's that's what we need. You know,
- 10:31special teams and goaltending is big in the playoffs and you have to be able
- 10:33to do well both and I think we have a chance to do that right
- 10:37now. And then I also thought that Allard came out with this like the
- 10:46this energy and drive and she she got rewarded with a goal. She also
- 10:50just had a strong game overall. How how was it seeing her in her
- 10:56first playoff game give that kind of performance? That was great? Yeah,
- 11:00she was like like their line like grim Ley a large data. They were
- 11:03really going and uh, they always have a lot of speed and they I
- 11:07was just happy for him. They're able to, you know, get a
- 11:11couple of goals and do their things. So they stayed within there are limits
- 11:16in our structure and stayed within our game plan and it worked pretty well.
- 11:20So it was great. And then you're you're playing against another team that has
- 11:24some really talented young players. Sammy Tabor for BC helped them get out of
- 11:31that that round with a win in overtime. So what's it like to to
- 11:37kind of see like the next round of players in Hockey East impact this playoffs
- 11:43and and kind of maybe show you what the landscape might be going forward.
- 11:48Well, I just think the future is right. You know, there's talent
- 11:52in this league and everybody's everybody's competitive. If anything, our league from top
- 11:56to bottom is the most competitive. I think that hopefully. Can you know,
- 12:03anytime you get the playoff game, it's just unpredictable, that's really I
- 12:07think you've seen that already. Even though the top four seeds of advanced,
- 12:09I don't think anyone has taken anything for granted at all. You mentioned this
- 12:16a little bit earlier. The three games. BC took all of them,
- 12:22but they're all really close. However, when we talked to coach Crawley,
- 12:28those first two games were in October, so was a long time ago,
- 12:31and she was telling us like she changed our lineup so much since then.
- 12:35So like, the matchup probably has changed a bit from when you've played them
- 12:39in October, and I know you played them in that shootout game in December
- 12:43to now, So what in your mind has changed in how you were in
- 12:50October to this playoff matchup? Hey, I think, yeah, we're both
- 12:54different teams right now. You know, anything could change, It could be
- 12:58injured, just line up changes, progression of players throughout so Yeah, they've
- 13:03definitely had some changes, so have we. So it'll be lock. It'll
- 13:07be a great game. I think it'll be tight, and uh, you
- 13:11know, we're just hoping to come out on top. Over to you,
- 13:16it's already the playoffs, the semi finals at home. But does this matchup
- 13:20have a little extra juice because you haven't beaten them because they were the ones
- 13:24that ended your season last year, because you've played them so many times in
- 13:26the playoffs, just a lot of there's a lot of history with Yukon and
- 13:31BC, not just in hockey, but you know, maybe in other sports
- 13:33too. I think there's a lot going on there, you know, in
- 13:39general credit to b C. Like you know, when when teams are playing
- 13:43BC, people pay attention, like and it happened you see. You see
- 13:46it in the men's league, you see it in our league, and that's
- 13:48credit to their success. And you know, look we're looking for another it's
- 13:52another playoff. I don't know how much we've played them in the last five
- 13:56six years. It's been quite a bit. So yeah, it's just again
- 14:00it's another chaplain's story here, so you can jump. Okay, so you
- 14:13got nominated, well, you got named a finalist for the Hockey East Coach
- 14:20of the Year this I think it was yesterday. I know you probably don't
- 14:24like to talk about yourself too much, but what does it mean to you
- 14:28specifically with the way that this season played out compared to other seasons, finishing
- 14:31with the first seed overall? Like does what what is this season meant to
- 14:39you in terms of your your you know, your coaching and and you know,
- 14:43being nominated in a finalist for this, but look, if you've been
- 14:50nominated before, you know, and been a finalist before, it's not it's
- 14:54more I think it's more of a reflection of the team and what how they've
- 14:58how they performed action of the staff. It's not one person, you know,
- 15:01the say coach of the year. It's more like staff of the year
- 15:05or a team of the year. When you really think of it, it's
- 15:07and it's more of maybe either meeting or exceeding expectations of what other people had.
- 15:11I mean, your your peers, meaning the other coaches vote on this,
- 15:16so they're acknowledging the body of work I think through the regular season,
- 15:20and the other finalists are definitely worthy. You know this thing, this this
- 15:26award was turning into the Dave Flint Award. He was winning this thing for
- 15:28again every year, so it was awesome for him and he deserved it,
- 15:33you know. So it's but I think when you if you win in a
- 15:37war like this, it's more of just the effort the team gave, how
- 15:41they performed, the results they had. It's more of what your staff's about
- 15:46and what they brought to the table too. I don't think it's just one
- 15:50person, so it it's a group, it's a it's a team award really
- 15:56ultimately when you think of it, So there is another Obviously, you had
- 16:02a few players on your team also named to different All Star teams and different
- 16:07finalists for different awards in their categories as well, and we talked to you
- 16:11a little bit about some of them, but I didn't really get your full
- 16:15opinion on Cam Wong being on that that top All Star team, the recognition
- 16:21that that she got for that, because sometimes I feel like she doesn't get
- 16:25as much recognition as she should around with with all the other good players in
- 16:30the league. But to see her on that first team All Star team,
- 16:33what is that like? Is it nice to see her get that recognition?
- 16:37Yeah? She she has had a great year. I think the other again,
- 16:41the other coaches in the league vote on it, so they clearly acknowledge
- 16:45and respect the performance you put in this year. Camp's been great. She
- 16:49she's done everything for us and just another kind of like Jada you know and
- 16:56Tia Chan acknowledged by the other coaches in the league. I think that's that's
- 17:00a sign of respect that your opponent is acknowledging I've done how well you've done.
- 17:04So Yeah, we're we we love cam We've had her here. It
- 17:08feels like fourteen years but it's only five. But she's grown tremendously and uh,
- 17:15we're happy to We're happy, obviously happy to have the last five years.
- 17:19And she comes from a wonderful family and it's it's great. I think
- 17:23in a previous conversation I had with you, you said, if you could
- 17:26come back in another life, you'd come back long. Oh yeah, no,
- 17:30this this kid. I'll talk to her in the summer, like where
- 17:36are you. She's like, I'm in Finland. I'm visiting a friend like
- 17:38Hokey Doki and the like. It'll be like two weeks later or we all
- 17:42we'll have a team chain email where everyone's updating everyone on what they're doing.
- 17:47They have a specific day in the summer that they update everyone and send pictures
- 17:51in. And the pictures are like it's like a movie, like where is
- 17:55this kid going? And but she, you know, she shows up and
- 17:59she's ready to go, and it's it's fun to follow that. It's interesting.
- 18:04If it is in Hawaii, it's Finland, it's California, it's Vancouver,
- 18:08it's the Midwest, it's Boston. Can't keep track of her all over
- 18:12the place. I think you mentioned the Hawaii part before, and I think
- 18:15he told her. Does she like right around campus on a scooter and stuff
- 18:18too? Oh? Yeah, oh yeah, she sure does. She just
- 18:22loves And the scooter's name is Patricia. We all the whole team knows this
- 18:26somehow. I can't believe we're talking about this right now. But yeah,
- 18:30no, and it's just rips her. She'll park it like right in front
- 18:34of the rink. Why is the name of Patricia? I don't know.
- 18:41I don't know. If I say this on the air, well, she
- 18:42think that's the greatest thing ever. They'll laugh about it. Yes, Okay,
- 18:48the oppressed dom is with this and Dan, they're just like what is
- 18:52happening interviews on rails right now. If you do well, I would I
- 19:03would have been I would have been disappointed if it didn't go off the rails,
- 19:06Chris. I mean obviously the last time I saw you, you were
- 19:07trying to run me over on Calhoun Way. So nice. Yeah, so
- 19:11I would be I'd be disappointed otherwise, Uh, what what got you to
- 19:19gravitate toward women's hockey after coaching men's hockey? What? What? What brought
- 19:25you over to this side of the sport and ultimately what brought you to Yukon.
- 19:30I so I just got married. It was about two thousand and seven.
- 19:36Got married, it was two thousand and nine. We're still at UMass
- 19:40Low. My wife was working actually at You and Age, and I was
- 19:42working at u MESS Hall coaching at UMSS Hall on the men's side. The
- 19:47head coaching position at Niagara University opened up. This was two thousand and nine,
- 19:52so you know, I was I was interested because we were going to
- 19:53start a family and I'm from that area, so my family's in micro Fall's,
- 19:59Ontario University where I played is ten to fifteen minutes away. Seemed like
- 20:03a really good opportunity. The more I looked at it just seemed like the
- 20:07right time to do it. Even Blaze McDonald was a head coach. He
- 20:12was like, I think this is a good thing for you. And again
- 20:15I had been around women's ice hockey because my sister played, She played college
- 20:19hockey, she played professionally. She's still in Europe. She ended up getting
- 20:23married after playing hockey in Denmark, and she like still lives there, so
- 20:29she thought. I talked to her. She thought it was great. My
- 20:30wife was clearly supportive, and we just ended up going to Niagara for two
- 20:33years and then they actually cut the program, and then Ohio State for a
- 20:40year with Casey's brother, my assistant coach, Nate Hanrahan was the head coach
- 20:44there. He was my college roommate Ohio State. And then this Yukon job
- 20:52opens up and there was some interest there. Really, ultimately I was very
- 20:56happy to Ohio State. But ultimately my wife's from Connecticut, so we had
- 21:02done all this moving around for me and my job. At least this was
- 21:07a good opportunity. We had two kids at this point, well, one
- 21:11on the way I took the job at Yukon. We took the job at
- 21:14Yukon and yeah, that was May, May thirteenth of twenty thirteen, and
- 21:19my son was born two weeks later, and it was just like a new
- 21:23baby, new job, a lot of stress, a lot of that.
- 21:26We're just going to Yukon. And I remember just telling her and myself like
- 21:32this is We're not moving anymore, like this is it. We're going to
- 21:33make this work here. This is a great spot. It is you know,
- 21:37fast forward eleven years. She works at Yukon now. So it's a
- 21:42good story. Our kids grew up. We live right beside campus, like
- 21:45there's no reason. People sometimes ask me, there's no reason. What other
- 21:51jobs better? You couldn't. I couldn't find one. You couldn't. You
- 21:56couldn't pull it, pull me out of here, Like it's just a great
- 21:57spot. And all the coaches that have been here forever approve it, right,
- 22:03So it's it's hard to leave here. It's hard to leave Gino.
- 22:07He tells the story. He wasn't planning on being here for a long time.
- 22:11Look what happened, right, So it just it's a good spot.
- 22:15Everyone. You're in athletics and you're at Yukon, you're in a good spot.
- 22:18Did you talk to some of the other coaches on campus. Much do
- 22:22you do you bounce that I did well. I just the first coach I
- 22:25ever met was Ray Reed. The guy had been here for twenty something years.
- 22:29And it didn't scare you off. No, it was awesome. I
- 22:30loved him. And he knew of a couple of coaches that I knew from
- 22:33Lowell and you know, he's I think he called them and Doug Doug.
- 22:38Doug and Ward were the ones who hired me here. I still talk to
- 22:42them today these days, you know. And it just yeah, it was
- 22:45just a good story. It felt right. I wasn't one hundred percent sure
- 22:48when I came with an interview. When I left, I was like,
- 22:49wow, this place is pretty impressive. Like it was, it was,
- 22:53and I was coming from Ohio state, where you know, the way they
- 22:56the way they operate is really something else, and this was right there.
- 23:00And I just, you know, with Connecticut being close to home, the
- 23:03East Coast being close to home for my wife and me, like it was,
- 23:07it was a big deal. Yeah, so I was determined to make
- 23:10it work. Then you can go ahead and jump in, how'd you meet
- 23:17Casey? Was that through Nate? That guy Jesus No, he's uh no,
- 23:21so his Yeah, he's like a little brother to me. So yeah,
- 23:25like his and his brother and I played together in college. We played
- 23:30junior hockey together from the same hometown. So I've known Casey forever. So
- 23:33and he was coaching at Newman d three years a head coach there, and
- 23:37he he was was fortunate he came with me here, and I've always felt
- 23:44like we're like a tag team. It's not just me, so it's it's
- 23:48it's a unique thing. So yeah, we're fortunate to have him. He's
- 23:52a great coach. Awesome. We have about five minutes left, so if
- 24:00anyone has anything else, as he says it, okay, if I get
- 24:04my last two in. So just another thought about that that Holy Cross game
- 24:11and the way that that things panned out with some long reviews, and you
- 24:17guys were in a good flow right at the time where you're having to sit
- 24:19around for a little bit and and and wait for the reviews. But how
- 24:25do you not let some some of those things affect the flow of your team.
- 24:30I think that we've seen enough reviews this year where we know, like,
- 24:33hey, regardless of what happens, take a deep breath and just keep
- 24:37playing. Whether it's positive or negative, you can't really, you can only
- 24:41control how you're going to react to whatever is about to happen. So,
- 24:45yeah, the reviews, the reviews, you know, they if you can't
- 24:49see the pockets, not conclusive. So it you know, there was a
- 24:52goal line review, there was an off side review, and you know,
- 24:56I think the reps based on the video, the refs probably made the right
- 24:59call. Haven't looked at it. It's not it's just it's over now.
- 25:03You've got to move on. But it's Yeah, the reviews haven't gone our
- 25:07way, so we're hoping if we do need them, let's let's try to
- 25:10get it back. Yes, yeah, that that off side one took a
- 25:14long time. Uh. And my last question has to do with the power
- 25:17play as well, and Walker's role on the power play, because she seems
- 25:21to facilitate a lot of that the puck movement, the lower pup movement,
- 25:23and like the low seams and has some really great setup passes on the power
- 25:27play. And though she doesn't it's not the same line that she's on five
- 25:33on five, she seems to have a lot of chemistry with her unit.
- 25:37Yeah, we've tried different players on that goal line, and it seems like
- 25:41Christine is most comfortable and has produced the most there. So she's earned that
- 25:45time and you know she's she's doing a good job of that. So we're
- 25:49happy. And again, like a lot, a lot of our players are
- 25:52just finding ways to contribute and that's a big deal. Has that that seem
- 25:56passed, like right on top of the Chris been an option for you guys
- 26:02a lot on the power play this year a couple of times. Yeah,
- 26:06it's been there on the other side too, can work too, but yeah,
- 26:10it's it's kind of based off what hold Cross is trying to do.
- 26:12We will think, okay, this in this opera, this pluck gets to
- 26:15hear this. These are the potential spots that are open. She saw it
- 26:18and you know when Tormala still had to make a great shot to put it
- 26:22in. So it was good. But no, they did a good job
- 26:25and moving it around really well. All right, that was my last one,
- 26:29coach, So thank you for for helping us fill in some of the
- 26:33thanks for having Chris. I can get one more in. Uh yeah,
- 26:37what yeah, I know you see a lot of the women's basketball players at
- 26:41your at your games, right, I know, I know Asy has a
- 26:44friend on the team and pages from Minnesota. I imagine she comes in you
- 26:48see some of that support. Yeah, I've heard they come to the games,
- 26:53you know, I I I, uh, yeah, I've heard great
- 26:57things about both those those two. I hear they're awesome and yeah, I
- 27:02know they're I know they're friends with a couple of our players. So yeah,
- 27:06they come to the games. It's great. I know when we were
- 27:08in the smaller rank, they were like people were losing their minds about it.
- 27:11I think in the bigger rank they can maybe blend in a little better.
- 27:15But uh no, that's good. It's good. And I think there's
- 27:18a real small community. The athletes are a smaller community on campus, you
- 27:22know, and I think they all stick together and know each other in some
- 27:25way. Yeah, thanks Chris, awesome. Well thanks coach for jumping on
- 27:30with us. Good luck tomorrow, Thanks guys, Thanks, thank