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Patriots Unfiltered 3/16: Reaction to Patriots Free Agency Moves So Far, JuJu Smith-Schuster vs. Jakobi Meyers Debate · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here at Gilett's Stadium,
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  Speaker 1: and we've got a busy show in a full studio.
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  Speaker 1: It's Deuce, It's to Marrow, It's Alex, It's Alex, it's Fred,
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  Speaker 1: It's Matt. No, Paul. Paul was so upset with the
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  Speaker 1: Jujus Miss Schuster signing and the release of Jacobe Myers
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  Speaker 1: he said, I'm not coming in anymore protea. So who's
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  Speaker 1: when we were making fun of him. Is that him?
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, so we've got a lot to talk about, um,
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  Speaker 1: the release of Jacobe Myers, the signing of Juju Smith Schuster, uh,
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  Speaker 1: stuff going around the league with uh, you know, Aaron
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  Speaker 1: Rodgers still not you know, officially signed with the Jets.
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  Speaker 1: Yet all of that, Um, we signed a running back
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  Speaker 1: from Jacksonville, um who um looks to be a pretty
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  Speaker 1: good player. Yeah, bowling ball. Yeah, And a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people are assuming that, you know, means the end of
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  Speaker 1: the Damien Harris era. Uh so we'll talk about all
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  Speaker 1: of it. Um, So anyone want to just kick yea,
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  Speaker 1: let's talk say that Smith schustertime. I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: write JSS. I'm on JSSA. I can't write Smith. Does
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  Speaker 1: he like to be called JSS? Are you making that up?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm assuming he doesn't like to be
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  Speaker 1: called TikTok. Yeah. So so okay, go ahead. I'm just
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  Speaker 1: gonna say I like the signing. I like them. I
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  Speaker 1: mean I'm not. I wasn't world's familiar with Juju Smith
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  Speaker 1: Schuster other than name. Yesterday just jumped in started watching them.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, look, bottom line, he's better than Jacoby Myers.
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  Speaker 1: He's better than him. I mean, he's just he's a
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  Speaker 1: talented receiver. He is a receiver. I love Jacoby and
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  Speaker 1: it's hard for me to, you know, say this's a receiver.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, but he was a quarterback and there's just
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  Speaker 1: something about him that was always there's something about him
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  Speaker 1: that has just never to me looked like a full NFL.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't like him being the most reliable receiver.
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  Speaker 1: He was a reliable absolutely, But I just I look
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  Speaker 1: at you. This is a this is a real deal
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver, who can get catches out, you know, yards
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  Speaker 1: after the catch, who has played in big games, who
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  Speaker 1: has had I mean, you'll line up their production. It's
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  Speaker 1: it's way more. Look, I'm not gonna I have concerns
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  Speaker 1: about him. I'm not gonna say that, oh, this is
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  Speaker 1: a dream signing. They need to do more. But I
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  Speaker 1: think a one for one swap in terms of they're
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  Speaker 1: the same age, it's a good contract. He has a
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  Speaker 1: higher ceiling than Jacoby does. I think you factor all
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  Speaker 1: those things. I think they upgraded their opense with this move.
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  Speaker 1: A lot. Of course, everything you're saying true about the
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  Speaker 1: same age, similar contract, all that stuff. But I think
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  Speaker 1: the zeitgeist out there is that it's a it's a
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  Speaker 1: very lateral move. And if you're gonna do that, why
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  Speaker 1: not keep the guy who knows the system, knows Matt
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  Speaker 1: Jones and you know, and reward your own guy that
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  Speaker 1: you brought up as an undrafted move, what you know,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, reward the guy that you brought in
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  Speaker 1: as araft of free agent. You know, they talk about
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots can't develop wide receivers. They did and then
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  Speaker 1: they get rid of them. Yeah, but I still think
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  Speaker 1: that this is this is a move they had to make.
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  Speaker 1: And and I'm gonna be honest, like that's not like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: this is the perfect guy. Like I've been saying all offseason,
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  Speaker 1: I want somebody who's quick on the inside. I don't
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  Speaker 1: really see Juju Smith Schuster is a quick guy. Um,
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  Speaker 1: but I think he can do what they need. And
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  Speaker 1: you know, you look at his high end production. Now.
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  Speaker 1: I know he hasn't gotten back to there, but he
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  Speaker 1: certainly had a productive year last year with Patrick Mahomes.
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  Speaker 1: And I know we'll talk plenty about like, well, what's
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  Speaker 1: he gonna do with mac if this is what he
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  Speaker 1: did with Patrick Mahomes. But I just look at it
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  Speaker 1: when you've just watched this guy play, he's he's a
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  Speaker 1: better football player than Jacobe was. And and I think
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  Speaker 1: ultimately that's the move they had to make. I think
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  Speaker 1: you saw what you were gonna got kind of kind
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  Speaker 1: of get out of Jacoby so you think it's an upgrade.
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  Speaker 1: I do. I mean, I have Evan, I know you
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  Speaker 1: think it's an upgrade without question. Okay, Tamara, she has
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  Speaker 1: concerns too, Go ahead, go ahead, just say I'm I'm
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  Speaker 1: in between. Like I Well, one, I really liked Juju
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  Speaker 1: because he's a former Steeler, obviously, and so I have
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  Speaker 1: been watching him since he was playing there with Big Ben,
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  Speaker 1: and I really liked how explosive he was and he
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  Speaker 1: was a great addition to their offense obviously. But I'm
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  Speaker 1: still kind of in the notion that, Okay, Jacoby, like
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  Speaker 1: I really liked him. He was reliable, he was consistent,
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  Speaker 1: he was max guy, and I think we could have
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  Speaker 1: kept him and added other things. But I do think
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  Speaker 1: that the explosiveness that Juju brings is going to be
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  Speaker 1: electric for this offense. And I think that hopefully, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Evan said he was pushing for someone who's going to
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  Speaker 1: get a thousand yards you know, a season. I think
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  Speaker 1: that Juju could be that guy. But they still need
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  Speaker 1: to add more. Alex, I feel like I might be
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  Speaker 1: Paul today, like pessimistic Paul. I am on the record
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  Speaker 1: on this show saying I don't really want him to
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  Speaker 1: come here, beyond the optics, beyond the optics of Jude
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  Speaker 1: on last night tweeting at Juju's arch nemesis, beyond the
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  Speaker 1: optics of Jacoby tweeting like one of the classiest players,
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  Speaker 1: Jacoby tweeting he's very clearly salty. Beyond it getting leaked
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  Speaker 1: at Like the money was so weird when it got
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  Speaker 1: leaked because it made it seem like it was the
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  Speaker 1: exact same contract as Jacoby too. That's like just strange.
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  Speaker 1: I think Jacoby got more guaranteed according to but then
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  Speaker 1: now they're saying Jacoby's deal is really kind of a
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  Speaker 1: one out. I don't know. I just feel like I
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  Speaker 1: don't love like I feel like we did the same
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  Speaker 1: thing with Aguil or like give a guy money after
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  Speaker 1: his prove it deal. Yeah, and I don't love bringing
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  Speaker 1: in another player, that was for sure, But it's still
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  Speaker 1: just like we're in the To me, we're in the
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  Speaker 1: same situation we were in. We're bringing now someone in who,
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  Speaker 1: like I don't know Juju. I don't want to, like
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  Speaker 1: on a personal level to say anything about like his
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  Speaker 1: character or him being a distraction. But I've worked with
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  Speaker 1: Kendrick Bourne and if Kendrick was an issue last year. Why,
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  Speaker 1: I just I don't get it. I think it's all reasonable,
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  Speaker 1: and I mean, and another thing just to put before.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure Evan jumps in. I just like the ball
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  Speaker 1: security I think is a little bit of an issue
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  Speaker 1: with him, and you talk about Jacoby's reliability, just you know,
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  Speaker 1: a point maybe in Jacoby's favor as far as the
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  Speaker 1: argument goes, three fumbles you know last year, it's just
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's something that you know, you have to
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  Speaker 1: be aware of. I think, is you're gonna have drops,
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  Speaker 1: is you're gonna have ball security issues, that's a concern.
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  Speaker 1: And we've been around so long jay career. Jacoby's got
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  Speaker 1: great hands, so obviously he's not somebody that drops a
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  Speaker 1: lot of passes. But three drops one hundred targets is
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  Speaker 1: not exactly dropping the ball a lot then. I mean
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  Speaker 1: something we also didn't talk about time last year where
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  Speaker 1: mondre Stevenson lost the ball a lot more than like
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  Speaker 1: we want. I mean, the whole team lost the ball
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  Speaker 1: more than they traditionally do. So I think that as
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  Speaker 1: a whole everybody needs to tighten that up. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think you just try to take it, take it all
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  Speaker 1: in you know, I mean it's not easy. We all
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  Speaker 1: love Jacoby and I mean it hurts when you see
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  Speaker 1: him when he when he tweets cold World. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you know you like the guy. You like the guy personally.
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  Speaker 1: You don't like the fact that that the team is
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  Speaker 1: a cold world. Of course it is, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't make it right. It doesn't make you I
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  Speaker 1: mean you have to enjoy it and you have to
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  Speaker 1: be like, oh whatever, goodbye Jacoby Myers. But well, do
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  Speaker 1: you hear Devin what he said, um when they interviewed
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  Speaker 1: him on I think it was then shocked. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he was shocked. You know he said, as far as
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  Speaker 1: I know, he wanted to be here, he wanted to stay. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, this isn't the boy scouts. I'm just sicking,
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  Speaker 1: Like I hear it all the time about Jacoby. Oh
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  Speaker 1: he's so reliable, he was such a great teammate. Does
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  Speaker 1: that win you football games? Does being a reliable great
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  Speaker 1: teammate win you football games? When? When when was being
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  Speaker 1: reliable and a good teammate not good? It's not that
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  Speaker 1: it's not good, it's just what does he do on
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  Speaker 1: the field? Like what what? Like? What's he put on tape,
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  Speaker 1: Like if you watched you, if you watch Juju and
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  Speaker 1: you watched Jacobe and you think that they're comparable players,
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  Speaker 1: then you're just not watching the same games that I am. No,
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  Speaker 1: But I do think it's not just about what is
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  Speaker 1: on the tape. It's about what kind of fit is
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  Speaker 1: this person in our lock I mean, I do think
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  Speaker 1: that the is our issues when you're trying to build
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  Speaker 1: a team. It's not just hey, this guy fits in
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  Speaker 1: perfectly as far as what our playbook is, you know
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  Speaker 1: it does there has to be a locker room fit.
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  Speaker 1: And think so too. I mean, I'm not going to
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  Speaker 1: say that that is the biggest thing. And certainly, you know,
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  Speaker 1: looking at Juju Smith Schuster's body type and skill set
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  Speaker 1: and all those things that when I look at those
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  Speaker 1: two players, I say, this is more of the direction
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  Speaker 1: they needed to go. I don't think it's a slam dunk.
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  Speaker 1: I still think they need a complimentary, you know, piece
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  Speaker 1: on the outside and another maybe tight end to you know,
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  Speaker 1: work in so that they have other targets. But I
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  Speaker 1: like the move. I don't like a lot of the
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  Speaker 1: moves they've made, but I like this. I'm not you know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, ready to hand in my homwork card yet.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, Like, so I'm fine with Smith Schuster,
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  Speaker 1: you know, but I like Myers and I think I
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  Speaker 1: think he's getting a short you know, he's getting a
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  Speaker 1: little disrespect here, I think from a lot of Patriots
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  Speaker 1: fans for what he You know, again, I said this
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  Speaker 1: on Tuesday, we talk about Matt Jones. Well, yeah, it
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  Speaker 1: was a bad situation with Matt Patricia and all. But
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  Speaker 1: but he's got to be a leader. He's got to
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  Speaker 1: rise above it and he's got to figure out a
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  Speaker 1: way to produce. You know. Yeah, well that's exactly what
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  Speaker 1: Myers did. That's exactly what he did. I will say
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  Speaker 1: for one point that we did talk about on Tuesday
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  Speaker 1: was um myers speed and like his yards after catch.
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  Speaker 1: I do think when you do compare those two, Jujus
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  Speaker 1: does bring you're like the same. You can't be honest
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  Speaker 1: and not agree with that. Yeah, you can't be honest.
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  Speaker 1: Did not agree with if you if you said I
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  Speaker 1: would describe Juju as from a skill set standpoint, he's
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  Speaker 1: Jacobe Myers with the ability to run with the football.
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  Speaker 1: There you go. I don't know why that would like
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  Speaker 1: the same slot receiver but one is like a better
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  Speaker 1: route runner and the other is Juju. I just I
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  Speaker 1: just don't know about that. Like I go watch Juju
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  Speaker 1: run whip routes against guys yesterday when I'm watch in
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  Speaker 1: his film and he's shaking guys out of his shoes
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  Speaker 1: just like Jacoby would, and then he's running with the
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  Speaker 1: football fifteen yards down the sideline after the fact, and
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  Speaker 1: they just don't have that player in Jacoby Myers, and
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  Speaker 1: I just I go back to the same thing. I
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  Speaker 1: just don't know what, Like what what do you guys want?
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  Speaker 1: Like what is what does the fan base want? A plan?
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  Speaker 1: Because honestly, just the plan have we had any sense
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  Speaker 1: Brady has left? I don't know. I'm going to be pessimistic, Alex,
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  Speaker 1: all right, that's I just but like I'm sorry, Like
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  Speaker 1: I agree. I understand where you're coming from totally, I
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  Speaker 1: really do. They're not going to tell you the plan, okay,
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  Speaker 1: so that I don't need to know the plan. I
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  Speaker 1: just need to see that it's happening and in progress
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  Speaker 1: and pay let's patch. Ju is the number two receiver,
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  Speaker 1: and I still think we're in the same place we
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  Speaker 1: were before though everyone that, okay, does everyone agree that, okay,
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  Speaker 1: Shuster is here, but you need more yes, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And do we all agree that the More has to
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  Speaker 1: be a wide receiver or would we be okay with
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  Speaker 1: the More being a really good tight end. I was
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  Speaker 1: interested in the report of they were talking reportedly talking
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  Speaker 1: to Obi j and Juju. I thought that was interesting
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  Speaker 1: and Jerry Judy Yeah, and it's like, yeah, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: what are the thoughts if it was Obj Andrew Juty.
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  Speaker 1: So they want Obj, I'm just gonna put it out there.
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  Speaker 1: They want Odell. They've wanted O'Dell for a couple of
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  Speaker 1: years now. I think the biggest issue that they have
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  Speaker 1: with Odell is that O'Dell wants to play with a
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  Speaker 1: good quarterback. Odell wants to play with somebody that's an
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  Speaker 1: established quarterback that can go out there and they can
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  Speaker 1: say we're super Bowl contenders. You know, Dallas as a
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  Speaker 1: team that's hot on Odell right now as well. I
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  Speaker 1: think he's always had a liking to maybe playing in
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  Speaker 1: Buffalo or Kansas City as well. You know, going to
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  Speaker 1: places where I can say I have an MVP caliber
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  Speaker 1: quarterback is important to him. But the Patriots were in
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  Speaker 1: on him last year at when he got released by Cleveland.
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  Speaker 1: They went to his workout this year. They've been in
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  Speaker 1: on him the entire time this year, so they would
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  Speaker 1: love to have him. I just think that are they
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  Speaker 1: going to overpay to get over the fact that you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna have to come here and prove it with mac
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  Speaker 1: Jones versus going someplace where it's kind of a ready
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  Speaker 1: made situation. I will say, I'm wondering if they'll be
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  Speaker 1: able to get away with not paying him as much
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  Speaker 1: at least this first year, until you make sure that
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  Speaker 1: he's ready to go. Because obviously they did go watch
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  Speaker 1: him work out in Arizona, but like you haven't seen him.
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  Speaker 1: There's so many questions. Yeah, there's so many questions, like sure,
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  Speaker 1: we saw that he could run and you know all
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  Speaker 1: those things, but it's difference between doing that workout and
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  Speaker 1: actually being in football shape and playing in a game.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm wondering if maybe they can, like first year,
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  Speaker 1: give him a certain amount of money and then if
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  Speaker 1: you know, obviously if he produces, then give him more. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, ob j would you talk about complimentary? He
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  Speaker 1: can play any wide receiver position, um, you know, so
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  Speaker 1: he could be that outside guy. He could actually I've
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  Speaker 1: seen him line up in the slot and be successful. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you know he's he can do it all. Um, where
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  Speaker 1: is he in his career? That's a question, it's a question.
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  Speaker 1: I mean he's still what thirty. I mean, he's not.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's not like, hey, we're talking about thirty
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  Speaker 1: six year old O B J and trying to squeeze
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  Speaker 1: it out. I mean, I think you put those two
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  Speaker 1: guys together, you're really talking and I and I don't
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  Speaker 1: think you can rule out you know, it's it's just
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  Speaker 1: it makes DeVante Parker more useful. It maybe opens things
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  Speaker 1: up for Kendrick Bourne to do some up. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you just have more options. I mean, I said to Evan,
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  Speaker 1: and we've had plenty of conversations about Quentin Johnson. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not the biggest fan of him, but I at
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  Speaker 1: least look now and say, if you put him with
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  Speaker 1: Juju in this group, like you kind of got maybe
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  Speaker 1: the makings of something there. Yeah, it's a ways to go.
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  Speaker 1: And I think we're just starting to see them. They're
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  Speaker 1: starting to make some moves. I mean obviously they you know,
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  Speaker 1: a couple other ones, Mac Wilson rolling in, I mean
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  Speaker 1: those you know, resigning taking care of your own guys.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta do that too. You gotta do it. And
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  Speaker 1: I mean to Alex's point of like, you know, what's
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  Speaker 1: the plan? You know, I don't love the fact that
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  Speaker 1: a lot of these guys are one year deals, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, you're just like, all right, we're gonna just
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  Speaker 1: keep kicking the can down the road with guys like
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  Speaker 1: McMillan and Wilson. And you know, of course a segment
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  Speaker 1: of the fan base is gonna get intrigued with all right,
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: are they gonna go more mobile? You know, last year
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: when you had those two guys, everyone thought these grand changes,
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: and now I don't know if anyone's really expecting that there.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: You know. So I think that they're doing a pretty
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: good job so far, but they still need that big piece.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: I'm not as depressed as I was Tuesday when I
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: felt like the world was falling apart. But I gotta
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: say too, I really like that they brought you Brull
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: Peppers back. He's I know, he's a personal favorite of mine,
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: but I just like, how so the running back what's
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: his name for, James, James, James Robinson. They paid him
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: some money two for eight I think, yes, it's not
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: a real Yeah, I'm sure. So his base values two
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: for four, Yeah, okay, I think I think that's incentives.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: I think that's another one kind of like OBJ where
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: you're kind of just hoping he gets back to prime form.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: Like James Robinson when he came into the league, he
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: had over a thousand yards rushing as a rookie. I
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: think the Jackson is so dirty too in a way
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: to be fair, To be fair, I mean, he was
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: there when a certain coach was there so exactly, so
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: it's like, you know, you want to you want to
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: charge on the table. It's like he tore his achilles.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: He had that person as a coach. Then he was
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: dealing with some neat issues again. So I'm hoping that,
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: you know, his potential turns into production. And you know,
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: like Patriots fans get all riled up because every time
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: they make a signing like him, Oh, you know, the
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: expectation is like the Patriots think he's gonna make it
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: be a starter. That's not always the case. We're going
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: to have to have ninety guys camp. Half of them
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: aren't even going to make the team about you know,
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: so this happens every year with every team where you're
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: filling out that camp roster with guys who you take
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: a shot on the guy maybe he is back and
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: can help. Yeah, you know, um, you know, and Ramandra
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: can't like go every single down like you want someone
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: who can compliment him. It's like, we're not asking James
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: Robinson to come out here and be the next you know,
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott and his prime. We're not expecting that. Let
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: him battle it out with Time Montgomery, you know, and
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: strong and Harris are strong and Kevin Harris, what are
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: they going to look like when they come back in
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: year two? I mean either one of them set the
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: world on fire last year, So you need some of
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: that depth. Always say they overstocked the running back position.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna get hurt too, you know what's gonna happen. Yeah,
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: So like every every signing that you see during the
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: offseason doesn't mean the Patriots expect this person to be
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: a starter. A lot of it is let's see what
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: you're doing camp. Yeah, you know, I think that's what's
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: hard to Fred is that, like, and I get everybody's
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: like anxious about wanting to get the star players and
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: when they sign these kind of no name guys. It's
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: frustrating to people, but I mean, I'm gonna, I'm gonna,
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna tee Evan up because I think that it's
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: a good like you hit on gems that way, Like
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: you have to kind of do that, Like nobody care
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: when you brought rob Nikovich in as a long snapper.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: But I'm not saying that you can build an entire
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: team that way, but you have to take those kind
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: of chances on guys like Robinson who's coming off and
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: achilles injury and didn't really have great production last year.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: And you know, Evan, I'll let you go on on
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: the on the tackle that they got from the Bronchos
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: who was originally here, so they liked them, they got
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: rid of them, um, you know, early before training camp.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: But you know this, it's guys like that. I know
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: it's not sexy. I know it makes people mad. You
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: haven't heard of the guy, but you know a guy
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: who has some potential and maybe maybe you find a
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: gem and all of a sudden, you're your left tackle
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: is on a manageable two year deal and now you're set.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: So I just I think you can't over criticize them
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: about some of those moves. I think you have to
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: make those kind of moves absolutely. I always have and
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: they always will. I feel like I'm in such a
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: minority with those two though. With James Robinson and I
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: love Juju. I love that signing. I'll admit on bias.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: I saw him play live at US See a bunch
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: of times when I was out in LA and I
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: really love everything about his game. I thought he was
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: a fit for here back in the twenty seventeen draft,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: and they passed on him, and I was disappointed. I
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: don't really like the James Robinson signing. I'm not gonna
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: lie I. Coming off Achilles injuries running backs, the track
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: record there is very, very poor of guys actually being
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: able to at that position, in particular being able to
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: bounce back from that injury. And I think that all
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: the opportunity in the world at that position behind Remondrate
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: should go to Pierre Strong. Every single snap in camp,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: every single touch that Remondra doesn't get, I want to
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: see Pierre Strong with the football because he's somebody that
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: brings legitimate home run speed, like a guy that can
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: take a run and go forty five fifty yards with
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: it to the house like we saw in Arizona for example,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: when he went down the sideline and nearly housed it.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: That's a guy that has something that they don't have,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: which is real speed. Well, you know, you know OTAs,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: you're going to start shortly and then you're going to
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: get into the you know, the May camps and everything
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: like that, and they'll probably they'll see Robinson, see where
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: he's at, and he may not even make it to Canada.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: He may not, or oh he's back, and then all
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: of a sudden there's legitimate competition, and you have to
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: have competition on you within your team, you know, to
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: push guys. What I worry about is that I agree
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: with you one hundred percent, and it's a it's a
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: good piece to add for that purpose. But I think
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: sometimes they lean on steady reliability, especially at that position
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: where I think that they need to get explosive guys.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: They need to get dynamic players that can make big plays.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: And yeah, maybe Pierre Strong isn't as polished or isn't
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: as experienced that as a guy like James Robinson might
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: make some more mistakes that James Robinson might not make.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: But for every mistake if he breaks one, you know,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: that's something that they need on this office. I think
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: what they really need, whether it's Pierre Strong or Time
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Montgomery or whoever, they need that reliable out of the
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: backfield pass catch. Yeah, that's always been part of the
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Patriots offense. And you know we talk about Bill O'Brien, Um,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: that's always been part of you know what he's done.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: So whoever that becomes, they need that person. I just,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, I agree with everything you said, and I
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: just I still wonder if it if it is a
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: priority for them, like you know, I just I don't know.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: I'm open minded about it because they drafted two guys
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: last year, neither one of them really. I mean, I
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: know Pierre Strong can catch a little bit, but he's
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: not that guy. Um. You know, they've had JJ Taylor
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: kind of kicking around. I don't know what they feel
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: about him. They don't trust him in pass protection yet.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's been practice squad guy for three years.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: I'm just curious, Like because again this Robinson signing, Like, yeah,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: he's got a little bit of versatility to him, but
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: he's not that receiving back either. So I don't know,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: it's just something that's on my radar. Are they gonna
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: are they gonna make an effort again? I mean, we're
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: watching these guys in the draft too, that could potentially
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: be that. Look how many times they threw to Ramondre
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Stevenson last year, So that's and I mean he was
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: the only he was the last guy standing. It's a
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: great point, and that's they did throw to the back,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: and that's and that's what I wonder if this evolution
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: is like they got to a point where they said, look,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: everybody knows, when Leire Blunt's out there, we're gonna run it,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: and when James White's out there, we're gonna pass it.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: And that's what you know, that's kind of what they
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: were in those middle years. Maybe they said, look, we've
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: just got to get a little bit more balanced with
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: some of these guys. And I think that's what you
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: see in Ramandre, who you know, was described to me.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: I think of the comment a couple of years as
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: a third down back and I'm like, really, um, but
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: you know Strong a little bit, this guy Robinson a
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: little bit. They can all catch a little bit. Um.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: So I don't know, we'll see, but I think I
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: also look at the other tight end position with John Hugone.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: You know, that seems like there's a spot there. What's
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: that going to be? Is that going to be one
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: of the rookies that we love or you know, I
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: know they saw GHISICKI was apparently at Toby Keats or
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Southern last night. I don't know if that's true or not. Really.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Somebody said I just I saw him at You know,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: there are a couple of people saying that he started
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: following the Patriots a Logan Airport type situation. That possibly
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: could be. But the other part of it was that
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: he's fall he started following the Patriots and mac and
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: also so so there's a little bit of smoke there.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: So you know, I don't, I don't, I don't hate
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: it as like. But that's another thing I wonder is that,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: you know, Bill O'Brien had Aaron Hernandez and I mean really,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: you know, looked at that f tight end position as
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: a weapon and as a piece that you know, to
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: move around and take advantage of. I'll say weapon. I
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: just sorry, playmaker, playmakers, let's say weapons. Um. So that's
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: another place I wonder is Bill O'Brien, you know, gonna
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: push for let's get one of those kind of move
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: tight ends, somebody that we don't really care if he
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: can block, but can be a mismatch in one way
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: or another. Yeah, I think they're hoping that might be
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: due to Honestly, I guess a guy that's underneath the defense,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I can catch and run, I can move around a
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: little bit. I think that he's sort of that a
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: little bit of a new age in that position where
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: he's more of like a power slot receiver instead of
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: a true tight end. Like you're not gonna put t
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: next to his name, but he can sort of do
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: similar things like Jordan Humphrey. Right, Yeah, he's no good way.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: I was gonna ask Evan I since he didn't really
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: he wasn't really fond of the James Robinson picked because
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: he's not really like bringing. I guess the speed that
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: he's looking for for the offense. Would you brother kept
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Damien or would you have just moved on altogether? No?
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: I mean I think that, Like we talk about lateral moves, like,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I think that's a lateral move, right as a guy,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: one guy that has an injury history versus another guy
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: that gets banged up all the time, and they run
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: a similar style. I think that Robinson has a little
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: bit more upside in the passing game than what Damien
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: brought to the table. But no, I don't mind not
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: keeping Damien and going with James Robinson. And I think
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: that when the contracts come out, Damian eventually signs, he's
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: going to get more money guaranteed to him up front
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: in the open market than somebody like James Robinson. But
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: it's more about I would say that they have this tendency,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: especially at the running back position, to hold back younger
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: players at that spot, and you have to be really special,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: like you know, Ramondre even in his rookie season, he
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: had some opportunity, but they didn't really give it to
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: him until his second year. And we've seen so many
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: guys just get red shirted that rookie year. And then
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: there's other teams. And I'm not saying that it's always
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: the Patriots always do everything wrong, but other teams like
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs, for example, have a rookie running back playing
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl making plays for them, and it's
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: at some point in time. Seventh yeah, out of Rutgers,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: which you know, makes too much sense, right, So all
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: those combinations of things, Eventually you gotta you gotta give
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: some of the younger guys a chance at that position.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: And I feel like sometimes they just they just retread
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: these veteran players that all right, he's not gonna fumble,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: he's not gonna blow and the Simon and Blitz pick up,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: he's gonna know where he's supposed to go when he
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: gets the football, and like all that. It's that's all
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: well and good, But does he make a difference, you know,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: is he a playmaker with the football? And I think
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: there's too maybe that small risk of injury, like for example,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: what happened with Etn in Jacksonville. It's like that rookie that, yeah,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: you are looking forward to him playing like he barely
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: lasted a month. And so it's I think it's a
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: little bit of like you want them to get experienced,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: but then you also are like you don't want them
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: to like get an acl tear the start of their
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: rookie season, and then you're kind of just always handle
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: that position with kid gloves. I don't know what it
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: is that they really feel so strongly that rookies cannot
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: contribute because it's early down backs like Damien and it's
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: pass catching backs like James White, like they do it
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: with all of them. Yeah, And I just don't know
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: why that is. It seems so simple to me, especially
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: if you're gonna make them a runner, not a pass catcher,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: not a guy that's going to have to block and
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: things like that, like just hit the whole. Like, I
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: don't know why that's so complex to learn and to
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: pick up. I just, I mean, I think everything you're
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: saying true. I just I also have always just believed
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: that they overstocked that position with the anticipation that we're
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: going to lose one to two of these guys at
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: any given week, and they do. And let's just get
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: to get into preseason. Let's get a bunch of them
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: and you know, we'll let the competition play out. And yes,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: in a perfect world, Pierre Strong, Kevin Harris, Romander Stevenson,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: that's your rotation. Maybe time Montgomery's your other back. But
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: you know, Romandre gets hurt week two in preseason and
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: you're like, oh god, you know. So I just think
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: that position specifically is one to you can never have
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: too much depth. YEA, this goes back to when quarteraill
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Patters and had to play running, yeah, you know, or
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Stephen Jackson. I mean even this year, you know, even
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: this year with when Damian got hurt and you know
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: in time Montgomery got hurt and you're all of a
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: sudden having to thrust those two guys. You know, it's
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: and even then to your point, like they were forced
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: to do it, and it's you know, it still didn't
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: really pop. So yeah, those guys will be fun to watch.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: It's you need a full stable because you're going to
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: end up using him. It always happens that way. Um,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: other stuff around. I mean, we got to talk about
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers in that whole situation, that whole situations. Yeah,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: I love it. It's so funny. Into the darkness and
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: he came out with the answer I should go And
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: I have a take on that whole situation, the Aaron
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Modder's situation. It's like when you first start like dating
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: someone and you like don't really know what you are,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: but like they're flirting with you. You know they're interested.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: You feel like they're interested. What you're like? What are
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: we like? Are we official? Are we like? In the
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: talking stage that's what this is like, It's like, what
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: are we like? You like me? This is his ex
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: wife holding up the papers and it's just won't she
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: won't settle for the Okay, no, but but but it's
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: it is he just waiting for them to show that
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: they're going to sign all of his requests. The packers
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: are the packers want like, you know, I think they
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: want a first round pack. I think they they made
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: they want more. Yeah, you know so well, according to
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, the packers are holding it up because for
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: the compensation they haven't worked out with the Jets. What
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: the Jets are willing to give them for the rights
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: to Aaron Rodgers. According to Aaron Rodgers, um which what's
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: your darkness? Take? I got? Yeah. So he comes out
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: of the hut and he says, I want to be
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: a Jet? Why? Why? Why the Jets? Because he's such
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: an egomaniac, which like, he couldn't go to a team
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: that is a good team, that was a good team.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: He needs to be the Savings, like like let's just
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: say the Patriots were you know. Bill's love of Aaron
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Rodgers manifested into an offer. He couldn't come here because
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: he'd be forever you know, uh, yes, Tom Brady, and
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: he'd never be as good. But with the Jets, who
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: haven't won a Super Bowl since sixty nine and haven't
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: even been to one since then, for the team, there's
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: only one place to go, you know, and so he's
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: never gonna He's not gonna be compared to Chad Pennington,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. So he'll he'll be the guy, um,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: you know, the best one since Joe Namath. And so
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: that's I'm I'm positive that's part of his thinking. It's like,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: you know, that that safety net of for his ego
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: plus like yeah, but I mean it's a good team too,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: like you know, I mean there's certainly things that are appealing, definitely,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: but but he doesn't care. He cares about him. He
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: cares about him and his own perception. And I'm telling you,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: with the Jets, there was no Tom Brady. There was
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: no you know, good quarterback who I'm succeeding and have
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: to live up to that. You know, it's my own
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: thing here, and you know, yeah, I totally believe it.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Tod to Toad New York Media next year. I can't wait.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: But that part he'll like because Yeah, it's exactly. It
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: plays into exactly your point. He loves screwing with the
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: media and jousting with them and being smug and all that.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna have any problem there. What
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: he cares about is the public perception of himself. Um,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: we've seen that, and you know, the jets of the
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: perfect place, because he'll get the money, he'll get the
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: notoriety if it works out, and he doesn't have to
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: worry about living up to a predecessor a team's success.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Like I said, they haven't been to the Super Bowls
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: in sixty nine. Even if it doesn't work out, I
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: don't think that anybody's gonna hate on Aaron Rodgers for
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: it unless he's playing awful, I guess. But I just
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: find it interesting too that he he gave this list
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: of players he wants to play with and they already
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: have Elijah More, Garrett Wilson, and Garret Wilson is heck
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: of a receiver. And now he's like, oh, let's get
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Alan Lazard, let's get Odell. It's like, I mean, I
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: get that you want more help, but can you get
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: some good? Like, don't make Aaron Rodgers a GM because
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, these guys are running the
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: same route, Like Garrett Wilson's already a big slot receiver,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: and then you signed Alan Lazard, who's also a big
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: slot receiver. It's like yeah, and again, according to Rogers,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: it wasn't demands. It was just simply a wish list,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: that's all. So he said that yesterday again on McAfee
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: show that you know, Diane Rassini cut you know, and
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: she didn't say she didn't say it was a demand either,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: you know, So he made it seem like she was
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: characterizing it a wrong way when she wasn't. So I mean,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: I think he did kind of you know, agree that
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: he did give them some names, lose my number. It
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: doesn't make you look any differently at Brady's departure here,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Like that was what I was just thinking as I'm
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: watching Aaron Rodgers being like, Jesus, thank God Brady wasn't
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: going on some podcasts just like you know, saying all
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: the things he was saying, And you know, I just
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's acrimonious divorces, but I felt like, in hindsight,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: the Patriots one was you know, pretty like at least
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: on the surface. I know everybody wants to dig deep
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: and what did they really feel? But you know, at
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: least on the surface, it was I do wonder how
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: many other teams, you know, were interested in Rogers and
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: expressed that interest to him or his agent. Well, I'm sure, An,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know a ton of teams needed. We haven't heard.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: He was asked. He just gave like a very vanilla
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: answer on Pat McAfee, what did you say? I think
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: he said there were some other teams, but and then
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: he just moved on. I'd have to everybody thought the
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: line would be long for Brady, and honestly, it wasn't
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: that long. Well, and that's why I bring that up,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: you know, And we didn't see anything like this from
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Brady because I don't think he had a lot of suitors.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: I think I think he was so damn grateful for
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Tampa Bay wanting him and giving him. I think it
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: was twenty five million or something like that. I mean,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: that's why he was all in day one when he
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: went to Tampa because he was really grateful that they
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: wanted him. Yeah, I mean I asked, I asked Paul
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: yesterday straight up. I was like, do you think there's
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: a chance of the Patriots are like behind the scenes
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: interested in Aaron Rodgers because I just think with those
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: kind of players, I've always felt Bill has a special
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: respect for those kind of generational players, and you know,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: you can just see it on his face. Bill don't
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: have a lot of time left, you know, Like it's
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: just like there's some logic behind this move of like
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: take just go get Aaron Rodgers, Like I mean, Paul,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Paul didn't really seem to think so Lamar. You know,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: maybe that could be behind the scenes kind of thing,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: but it was just I don't know. I just I
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have been one hundred percent. I would have been
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: very shocked, but not one hundred percent shocked if they're like,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know where the Patriots swooped in. I mean,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: just based on Bill's timeframe, it would make sense. I
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: feel like Lamar makes more sense for that. That's what
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: I was going to ask theory, because at least he's young.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: So even if Bill retires in three years, you still
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: have a quarterback. Yeah, it's not like there's an expiration
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: date on both your head coach and your quarterback. Would
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: but would you pay Lamar? You would you ever see
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: them or would yeah, yes, yeah, I mean I would,
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: But like, would you ever see the Patriots behind closed
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: doors offering that much money to a quarterback? Um? I
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: mean they're gonna have to at some point if they're
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: lucky enough to find that guy to pay, you know.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: And that's the weird like thing about it. It's on
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: one hand, like, oh my gosh, would they Well guess
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: what if they find that guy, They're gonna have to
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: at some point. I think doesn't any smart team want
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: to be in this situation where you have a guy
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: that's that good? I mean clearly not the Ravens because
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: what are they doing right now? Well they did, they
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: have all the left well, but let's put it. You know,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: even Um I think uh Uh lamar Uh revealed that
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: he did turn down a pretty hefty offer from them. Yeah,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: it was like three years, three years, one hundred and
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: thirty three with like ninety million guaranteed or something like Watson's.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: His is more, but only because, um, Watson's is more,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: because you know, overall, because I think it was five
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: or six years. But when you break down the first
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: three years, it's they were about the same. Okay, you know, Um,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: but that's I think that's where Jackson is, you know,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: myth because they don't they don't want to give me
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: three years. You know, I also don't. I'm like intrigued
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: that he doesn't have an agent. That's I thought. I
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: was just going to say, his mom and his agent
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: counter counter. I'm gonna counter this one. I mean, it's
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: it is surprising to me, especially like having worked in
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: a kind of seeing what the what is, what the
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: negotiations are like, what the back and forth is, like,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: what the context is that the agents know. I mean,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: obviously there's a part of it too where the agents
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: have interest in this as well, because they're going to
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: get a commission and then they're going to be able
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: to base other deals off of this. But I just
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It would be really hard to do
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: that as so complicated, and you have to they have
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: to be straight up with you, like this is what
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: we really think about you as a player, and this
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: is why we're offering what it is. And sometimes it's
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: better to have that go through a buffer. Just just
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: because he doesn't have an agent, does it mean that
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: he won't have a lawyer down? Oh, it comes time
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: to sign advising, hopefully advising him, but I mean hopefully
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: he's I mean, it's probably gonna be the thing where
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: they're gonna say, all right, whatever, four years xxx, this
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: much guaranteed yes or no, you know, and then it's
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: the finer points that you got to let the lawyer
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: go to work on and figure out where their outs
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: are and you know, all that kind of stuff that
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: that teams try to put into contracts so they you know,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: they're not on the hook forever. But I think Lamar's
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: situation is intriguing because you don't hear of anything. And
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: I know one of Paul shows, you know, is accusing
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: the League of collusion. You know, I'm not saying that
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: collusion is beyond the owners, but in this particular case,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: I don't see why they would collude, you know, like
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's a hefty child. The argument is that
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson's contract is something that the owners never want
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: to see again, a fully guaranteed quarterback contract for over
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: two hundred million dollars. The precedent, the precedent that it's
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: said is is tough because Lamar is sitting there saying,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: I'm better quarterback than Deshaun Watson. I win more I
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: on an MVP, Like I'm better than him, So why
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: why am I? And off the field, well, you know
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: why am I only getting three for one thirty three
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: but got double that? But that's short of collusion. I
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: mean they can be pissed off at Haslem for doing
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: that deal and saying I wouldn't do that deal, and
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: that could be the consensus among the owners, But I
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: don't think it requires collusion to have that opinion, right,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like everybody said that was
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: a terrible deal. Yeah, you know it was, like, you
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: don't need to collude to come up with that right conclusion.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: I just think if you're Baltimore, you have all the leverage.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: You have the franchise tag. It's a bargain to franchise
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: tag him, which you really have all control in that situation.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: If you do tag him, you can even tag him
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: again next year and it's still a bargain. So it's
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: just like there's really no incentive, especially for the style
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: a quarterback that he is, for the Ravens to give
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: him five years with two hundred million dollars guaranteed, Like
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: they don't have to I'm gonna be so intrigued when
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: it comes time for Joe Burrow get this because it's
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: gonna be wild and that's a historically cheap team. And yeah,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: and he paid Orlando Brown though, so that was, you know,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: an interesting that's true and interesting they made they just
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: made him the highest offensive lineman ever or I don't,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know ever but right now in the league.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Right yeah. But like Joe Burrow, like he's worth he's
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: worth a lot of money. Oh yeah, Like there's no
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: way that you could look at him and be like, oh,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna and and and I mean to re hit
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: a point I keep hitting the last few weeks. It's like,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: you know, at least with him, I feel like he's
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: nine times out of ten gonna be upright for the
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: whole season. And it's gonna be you know, it's gonna
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: have when he had an had we got that out
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: of the way. There's always one. There's always one a
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: cl year with the quarterbacks. He got it done. But
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: he came back from that and proved that he's still
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: a no, he's the real deal. And when you have
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: a guy like Burrow or Lamar Jackson or Tom Brady.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: You don't just factor in the play, you factor in
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: the marketability. How many jerseys is you gonna sells? What
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: you do for our France? Those TikTok numbers of just
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: any video they post Man, they literally could post a
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: picture of him. We're in our content and like marketing me,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: I have to say this, And I'm just watching all
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: these men talk about like, oh, the Bengals do this,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: and the Eagles like look at their numbers on their
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: arrival videos, and all the girls are just sitting in
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: the back like yeah, that's because it's Joe Burrow and
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts like like like they're postings literally, I think.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: I think if if you like analyzed their followers, it's
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: probably like a lot more women than you think. And
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: not because it is because they like football, but also
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: because like looking at half of my algorithm as girls
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: that don't watch football talking about Evan knows. Evan knows
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: that he has to be quiet because he fan boyd
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: over Josh Allen. And that's true compliment one time and
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: worst mistake of my blood. It wasn't the compliment, it
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: was talking about it in the meeting. The next month,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: he was l from Wisconsin says he has made his
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: gripe is the way I talked about the start of
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: free agency at the end of the last show. He says,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: you mentioned that we go through this all the time.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Team doesn't do much France freak out, rents and repeat.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: The difference is that in those days, we had the
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: goat at quarterback and made the AC Championship every year.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: The team didn't really need to get much better. Now
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: the team needs to drastically improve. The Patriots are staring
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: down a potential fourth place to visional ranking and can't
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: fill all the holes in one draft. So yeah, I'm worried,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: and I don't trust Bill to do what's necessary. To me,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: you haven't got any better. Juju from Myers is a wash,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: and signing to mid level right tackles for win is
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: also kind of a wash. What date is it? Is
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: it March sixteenth or September? Yeah? Sixteenth? Yeah, So, like, listen,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: don't forget what I predicted last year's record was going
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: to be eight and nine, Okay, Fred the Homer, Fred
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: the Homer, So like, I read the writing on the wall.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: But right now, let's let's see what they're gonna do.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: We're just pre mad. Right. In fact, that's the part
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: that gets me agitated, is because we're four days into
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: this guy's in four days in also the implications of
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: the what's going on in the division right now. That
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: is like, honestly, if that Aaron Rodgers video doesn't happen yesterday,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: if he's not going to the Jets, like, I'm probably cool, dud,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: You like, content's gonna be fun? Yeah, we can no,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: No that listen. That scares me that the Jets defense
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers with now haul you know, not hopefully,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: I hope he's not healthy, but haul back, you know,
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: after his injury, and you know, they're gonna be good.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: They're gonna be good. They should be good. But they're
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: the Jets. They could screw it up. Would you put them?
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: They should be good? I put them as another two
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: right now on paper? Who the Jets? The Jets? It's
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: those Jets, Miami and US. Now we could be better
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: than Miami. That's a possibility as we sit right here
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: now because we don't know what you know, we don't
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: know what two is. You know, he could be out
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: in week two, you know, Um, so that's that's a
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: you know, a big gift for them, so we could actually,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: you know, as we sit here right now, be better
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: than Miami. Yeah, I mean, and I just I wonder,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: you know, I totally get what he's saying, Like, and
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Evan's so right, we're pre mad. We just assume that
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: they're gonna you know, and I said my piece earlier
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: about you do have to do some of this stuff,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: but like, just what is your view on twenty twenty one?
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Like this, they went out, they went hog wild in
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, and we were all so excited and
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: it was okay, it was okay, you know, so I
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: just I the bottom line for me is that I
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: don't think you were going to surpass the Bills in
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: the first four days of free agency. Like it's just
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: that's not going to happen. So, you know, like you
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: have to be methodical, you have to think about where
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: the Patriots really are. And you know, I just I
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: said it, going into free agency, I'm not overly enamored
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: with oh, we could go get a player X, Y,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: and Z and then we're there. It's you know, it's
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: a lot of these kind of guys, guys like Juju
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Smith Schuster that you're like, okay, But at the end
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: of the day, I think it's all about development of
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: these draft picks and nailing this draft again and you
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: find a couple of guys who can contribute. I think
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: you're seeing the roster kind of come together that you have,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: you know, a manageable starting point where you have every
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: kind of hole generally filled, generally filled, not to the
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: height you want it, but get to the draft, get
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: those guys, add some talent, add two or three guys
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: that can come in immediately and contribute. Then you're starting
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: to talk about a young team on the upswing with
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: a young quarterback. That's where that's where you want to be.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: Not while we went out and overpaid again for all
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: these free agents, and yeah we won ten games again
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three, but it really wasn't that good.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: And now half of them are you know, we're busts,
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: and we're gonna have to get rid of those guys
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: in two years like we did with John u. You know,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: those kind of things. It's just it's about the draft
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: for me. I know that everybody wants to see a
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: more aggressive plan, but to me, looking at what they've
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: done in free agents, so far, the plan is, let's
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: plug all of the depth that we need in all
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: these other places, line running back, bring back all of
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: our defensive players that we liked that fit the system,
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: and therefore when we put the cherry on top, we
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: have all the other foundational elements already in place. Now
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: they're still searching for the cherry. I get that, But
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: if you got to be able to build out the
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: rest of the roster too, and I think in free agency,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: that's where you can really find value in free agency
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: is making sure that you maintain your depth in certain areas,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: maybe make some marginal upgrades like Juju and Jacoby Myers,
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: and you're not going to You're not going to win
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: a Super Bowl by winning free agency. It's never done
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: that way. And they did it a couple of years
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: ago because they had the money to spend and there
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: was a market correction with COVID and it ended up
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: working out for them in the short term. But here
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: we are again two years later, and we're still in
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: the same spot that they were in twenty twenty one.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: So free agency is not the place that you make
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: these big moves to move the needle. Those guys don't
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: make it to free agency, they get traded or they
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: get re upped by their own teams. Who in the
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: market right now has moved at wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: is still a Cardinal, right, Jerry Judy is still a
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Denver Bronco. Like there's been no big trade, liked, Higgins
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: is still in Cincinnati. Actually, I just saw that Braxton
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: the Barrios signed with Miami. Oh that's huge, that's huge.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: But until those things happen, I think that all this
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: this hysteria is premature until they decide to pass on
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: it all, you know, all this receiver movement and the
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: real receiver movement, not the Jacobe Myers and Juju Smith schusters,
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: but the DeAndre Hopkins trades, Like until they pass on those.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: If we get in here the Tuesday after the draft
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: and this is how the team looks, then have at
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: it like then it's open season. But we got a
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: long way to go. I love how BS is rattling
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: around the AC a bill before long I mean talk
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: about I mean, but he played in Miami, right, so
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: it's like Riley, he played on like three three NFC
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: North teams, Like he's just been floating around. Yeah, he's
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, he seems like he fits in the Miami
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: called he's got, you know, good looking dude. He's like
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: he doesn't he date somebody's sister or something's little sister.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: So really so he's like, it's funny. He's like living
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: the B level Daniel Mendola, It's like the B level
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: out there, like but wing man man, all right? Five
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: five passive ticket hot line web radio at Patriots dot
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: com is the email address. Let's get to the phones.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Eldred's in North Carolina? What's up to Aldred? There? It is? Oh, hey,
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: lady ladies, all right, hey Evan, yes, sir, I hate
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: did move because my brother is a diehards Steeler fan.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: And when Brown left, they thought he was gonna take over.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: He didn't take over, Aldred. What happened to Big Laugh?
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: Come on like it is with washed Big Ben. We're
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna judge him on that. The guy couldn't
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: even move. He just wasn't the cap mars like to
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: see everybody because he's a home grown And I know
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: he didn't move the needle like everybody's saying, but least
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: he did move to move the yard marks. Yard markers
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: most of the time he was your most reliable receiver.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: I'm surprised. I'm surprising you. I just like you. I
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: feel like you want real like guys like Jude. And
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that like you said, he wasn't Antonio Brown,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: I'm not. And then I don't think any of us
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: are saying he is. But I'm just surprised because I
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: think you know, he does bring a little bit more
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: juice to the offense, and I know, I mean, I
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: know he's not going to be the guy for us,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: and then that's what you want. But I am a
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: little surprised. Yeah, but see see that anybody if I
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: keeps saying the middle of the field. But don't you
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: think the defenses know that because we still didn't get
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: nobody on the outside yet it's coming to h out
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: of the defense yet, you know, death death, death, Marcus.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: But that's like the rest of like the rest of
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: the league, like rest of the fan. You have to
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: go right something we see yet I know, feel more,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: feel more old. But you got a fifth round, and
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: you went to Dallas and you got a third round
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: for pet for Rams, those two two could be your
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: two starts corner, just like we did with with Reeves
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: and not Revers, but yeah, Reeves another guy, if you know,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: just to start off, instead of doing Bryant and doing
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: Jones with a number one corner, they five short, They
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: can't run with nobody. So that last year, Yeah, that
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: one of the head lakes that we've seen, you know.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: But I think that that's what they're doing with all
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: these depth moves, is that they're setting themselves up for
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: when the draft comes around. Maybe it is Joey Porter Jr.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: In the first round. Maybe it is you know, somebody
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: like Quentin Johnson or another receiver that they really like,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Zay Flowers, whatever, and you know, name the name the guy.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: Because now they're setting themselves up where Okay, we have
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: all these other pieces, don't have to we don't have
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: to chase that. We don't have to overdraft a guard
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: again because we just don't have a guard to play
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: in a game tomorrow. They could play a game tomorrow,
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: ye would they be the best team in the league.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Certainly not, But they don't have any glaring oh they
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: need a body here type of holes. And so that
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: we get to the draft and we can go chase
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: the high end talent I'm with you totally on that.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: One more question, all right, what y'all think about I
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: think Riley Riff, I think any of the left tackle
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: the both defined he's he's probably gonna have to stay
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: on the right side. If he's old, veteran experience. I mean,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: but sounds like he's a leader. I don't know that
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: contracts surprised me a little bit just because he's he's
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: near the end of the line. But I think that
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: they've established I mean, you've got six tackles now when
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: you bring cajuiced back, you got Calvin Anderson, you signed Reef,
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: you brought Connor McDermott back. So I mean they, you know,
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: like Tavan's point, they got some depth there, they got
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: some competition. Do they have a number one left tackle?
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: The future? Guy? Know? But who knows? If one of
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: those guys Paris John Traft sitting there, all right, we
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: don't have to reach for him. But if he's there,
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: you know we can take him. Thanks, Aldred. Let's go
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: to William and Philham. What's up William? Well, yam, William? Yeah,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, okay, there is sorry. I don't want to
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: interrupt you, you know, h what's up? I had I
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: had second. I'm sorry. Okay, I'm here, I'm hearing my
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: work at my job and whatnot. So you know, don't
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: get fined. Um, I'm gonna just get right to it. Uh,
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: I can't have you got TikTok boy key, it's great, Okay,
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to get this out. I'm trying to get
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: this out. Heaven. Is he better than Jacobe Man? Absolutely yes,
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: but you've got to also do no. But it's a
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: football team, it's not the boys. Hold on, I can't hear.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: I can't hear him. What I don't know. I don't
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: know if he if he better than m Jacoby Myers. Yeah,
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: can y'all hear him? Yeah? Yeah, okay, yes he is
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: better than Jacoe Meyers. But um, my concern also with him, though,
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: Evan is you know the man. I hope he don't
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: do no new dances and stuff and the mess the
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: team up basically or jump into somebody's ends, don't do
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: some more nonsense and then the other the other team
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: on other styles. Great, not come on the sideline, you
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about? Why are we afraid of that?
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: Isn't that a like? Why am I afraid go catch
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: a touchdown on Buffalo and go dance on that danglo
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: though and shove it in their faces like have some
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: have some about him after the game and start they
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: don't have anybody that has any type of alpha energy
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: like that? Is that alpha? Social media? Start? Evan, he's
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: in New England. He's nowhere. He's not with the steel
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: of anybody else. He's in New England. You think Bill
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: gonna play a lot that nonsense? I don't. Yes, I
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: think he is. I would, I don't think. I don't
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: think Bill will tolerate disrespecting other teams. I'm not asking
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: the disrespect dance on their logo, like when have you know?
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: It would be good to have somebody around that act
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: teams don't like playing again, So that's different. Yeah, like
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: when Sauce beat the Packers and put the cheese head
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: on top of his head, that's wild. There's no way
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: Bill allow that. Yeah. And my last my last thing
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: is this, and I'll and I'll leave it at this.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: And I just want to dress Evan a little bit
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: with this. And I know Paul ain't there. I know
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: how you got kind of hard on the fans. You're
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: thinking like, well, what do the fans want this that, sir,
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: So let me speak a little bit for the fans.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go all in with it, but you
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: know we're not stupid and dumb. Okay, I didn't say
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: you were stupid and dumb. I know you called it.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it, okay, But you know, I just
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: want you to understand, you know, what do the fans want.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: You have the elders called in for a my receiver,
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: all my stuff, you have clear calling for a tight end.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: You have other call us calling in for so we
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: kind of know what we would like to have for
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: the team. I mean, I'm we're worried because of the
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: fact you gotta deal with Josh, you might have to
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: deal with Aaron Rodgers. You gotta hold that. We ain't
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: got to deal with Lamar going to Miami or Tom
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: Brady coming back. Our our faith this quarterback right and
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: they cheering us something we at the bottom of the list,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I'm gonna be patient,
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: like you were saying, We're gonna see what uh what
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: Bill running do? But right now. But when I'm seeing
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: right now, I ain't like it. When I'm seeing But
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: did ju ju think that's okay? But those right tackles
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: do a little death charge. Y'all got the back then?
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: And okay, all right, I got mac Jones. Okay, you
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: got I hear you, William, But they don't play games
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: on Mark sixteenth. All right, we got, we got some time.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. I'm not trying to be disrespectful
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: to anybody or anything like that. It's just that just
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: shows a little bit of patience. That's all I'm asking for. Uh,
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: let's go to Christian and Boston. What's up, Chris for
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: the t I A n Hey, frady, what's happening on everybody?
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: How you doing? Hey? By the way, if you put
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: your brain power to it, we can figure out how
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: to get rid of the telephone poles. We can figure
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: it out. That's why I mean, that's why I'm called
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: two and a half chosen. There's no update on your proposal. Tom,
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: it's working its way through the legislature. It's working its
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: way through the legislature. That's not a good sign. I
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: know you can't get any the legislure. I know it's
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: a private conversation. What are you guys talk about no
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: I proposed I proposed a thirty year plan on Twitter
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: to remove all telephone poles in the United States. I
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: like it. I don' think they're dangerous. Them in the ground,
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: they're dangerous. The dangerous. The hit one in the east.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: It's easy to hit that. Every time there's a storm
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: there's outages. Let's bury them right near the old uh yeah,
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: drive in theaters. It's difficult, but it can be done.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: Bury him. Yeahs um, we'll save that one for a
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: few weeks. Yeah, definitely, we're gonna need it. Like June Table,
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: I am worried, you know, sort of the this whole
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: dynamic and what and why don't I get you what
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: you guys thought on it about the locker room and
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: you know whether your Kobe was quote there's a theory
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: out there feed room as one of these quote group
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: of five in that group of five that was that
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: was during the season, that was causing an issue, and
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: you know if that was a factor in this, Like, yeah,
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: Judo's a better player, but not by much. I mean,
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: I don't think you're going to get a guy here
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: that's going to help you win games. You're gonna get
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: a guy that's going to help you move the chains.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know. If you've got a guy that's gonna
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: help you win games, I don't. And that's what they need.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: They need a guy that can help them win games.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: And Fred, I'm with you off the top, like they
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: haven't drafted and developed anybody realistically since Dion Branch. I
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: guess you could throw Malcolm mitcham and there if you want.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: But then you have a guy who you knew fit
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: your system, where you knew understood your system, who last year,
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: in the midst of a dumpster fire of an offense,
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: actually produced and what we all agreed was like the
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: worst offense they've had in years, and he just let
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: him walk. Yeah, So that's where I'm coming from. Is frustrated,
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: But I am curious to see what you guys think
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: on the on the whole thing with the law from
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: Dynamic and stuff. Who are you? Who are the other?
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: Thanks Christel four of this fellow. So that's the language. Um,
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, I just I disagree with him. I disagree
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: with the point that he's not going to help him
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: win games. I mean, I think you can see plenty
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: of plays that he's made where he catches the ball,
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: he breaks the tackle, he pulls away, and it's a
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: big play. Um he's got I just think that he's
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: a better player. And I know that it's not exactly
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: what everybody wants, but I do think it's a worthy upgrade.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: And you know, I'm not really trumpeting anything else they've done.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: I think they're solid moves, but this is one that
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: I think they made an upgrade on the team. And
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: it's just hard, like what what do you want? Like
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: what do you what do you need? Like it's just
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: it just feels like everybody just clamoring for stars and
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: that's all. That's the only way to do is to
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: sign star players. That's it. That's the only way we
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: get out of this is if we sign stars in
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: free agency. And I mean, I'm like speaking for myself.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: It's I don't know if people realize like how ridiculous
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: social media is during this period, Like people are relentless
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: about at us like we have anything to do with
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: it actually at about that. But it's just like it
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: is like, oh my gosh, how long have we been
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: doing this? I mean, I mean I have been doing
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: this for what two thousand and six? I mean seventeen
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: years have been following every moment of the Patriots and like,
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: come on, like we know how this goes. I know
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: sometimes they go crazy and free agents sometimes it's more reserved,
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: but based on where they are and where they need
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: to go, I think it's more about the draft and
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: developing guys than it's going to be about these big
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: splashes and free agency. All right, we're gonna we're gonna
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: pay quick question about like the locker room thing and
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: Jacobe being a problem in the locker room. That's the
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: most sad possible. I mean, the only thing I can't
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: say is just like, well, then why is Kendrick Bourne
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: still here? Because Kendrick Bourne was apparently one of those
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: guys who was talking to So if they're on a
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: purge to get rid of anybody who said poor of
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: the mat puts offense, and where else is I'm actually surprised.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: I thought that that I had had no idea about
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: that take that one of Paul Show has had, Uh
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: I do it right? Who else? But I actually kind
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: of feel like it's the opposite exact from where the
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: opinion was of these guys that have been leaders in
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: this locker room. You know, they haven't really won anything.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: They haven't really been, you know, great on that side
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: of the ball, and I think they're trying to get
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: some new energy, some some fresh perspective. And I also
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: think we've talked about it a lot, Mike. Some of
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: these guys like Romandre, like some of these are guys
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: are more quiet, more reserved people, and they don't necessarily
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: have that that big energy to them. I actually think
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: that that's more about that than it is about them
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: being problems. And I don't think they were problems. I
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: just don't think they looked at the last three years
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: and they said, what did we really accomplish in the
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: last three years with this core, with this group of players.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: And also Jacoby wouldn't have won the award. The media
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: awar like if he was really a problem in the
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: locker room like he was all but yea, what I'm saying,
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: he was still like great to talk to, win loss.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: I mean even after through his Raiders game situation. It's
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: not it's I think the I think his teammates loved him,
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: so that wasn't the problems. I think he said things
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: that irked the coaches. The only thing that he said
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: was when Matt got pulled for um literally him his
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: name for Zappi. When he got pulled for Zappy, he
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: said he was shocked, like he was shocked that that happened.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: When it happened, because everyone was blooming and stuff. That's
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: the only thing that I heard him say, and like
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: it's the truth. We were all shocked. I know that
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: you don't say that. You don't say that publicly. You
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: don't say it because it causes problems, you know. Um
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: And he said some other things earlier before the season
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: about the offense a little bit. He says something, listen,
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: I loved It's great to hear guys that speak their mind.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: But that's not the patriot way, not public not publicly.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: I don't think there's any I think Bill wants to
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: hear from people. But inside, keep keep our stuff inside,
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: you know. I'm at one more point. I also just
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: feel like if right now, if me and Evan were
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: on the side of but he knows the system for
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: a guy, that we'd be getting killed. Like that is
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: why I'm so well he knew the system, Like people
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: are saying, well, he knew the system. I'm like, don't
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: we need more than system was talent all the way
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: to eight hundred yards every like, what do we I'm
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: imagining me making that argument to Paul, Papa Paul, he
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: knows this, like he would be right, he would go crazy.
• 59:37
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  Speaker 1: argue that two of those fourteen games he was banged up.
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  Speaker 1: him to a star receiver to a star receiver. Quit
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  Speaker 1: years now is now coming out and saying, Oh, but
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  Speaker 1: this guy was. He was a good he made and
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• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: used to get making fun of for gravitating towards some
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  Speaker 1: of those types of things, and now we're doing that.
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• 1:15:30
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• 1:15:36
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• 1:15:46
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• 1:15:49
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• 1:15:54
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• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say that, I'm gonna I'm in here
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• 1:16:10
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  Speaker 1: He's the same age as Jacobe. I just I think
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• 1:16:38
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• 1:16:45
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  Speaker 1: Kendrick Boorne. How many times have we heard of Kendrick
• 1:16:50
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• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: they need to feature in the offense. This guy has
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: been featured in an offense and has produced at a
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: high level and has made a pro They got a
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: former pro bowler and people are mad about it. I'm
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: just I feel like I'm living in like an alternate
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: universe right now. He doesn't know the offense. Let's get
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: back to the phones. We do have a lot more emails,
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: um and they're not happy, but we'll get to the phones.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: Xaviers in California, What's what's up? Xavier? Xavier x man,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: what's up? Xavier. No, yeah, I'm mute. No, okay, we're
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: gonna move on. We're gonna go to New York where
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: Tyson is on the phone. What's up, Tyson? Yeah, what's up? Guys?
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: This first time call along time listener. Thank you. I
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: just want to say that you're welcome. Um. I just
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: feel like I'm like it's a Patriots fan on. I
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: feel like I've been live too, because Robert Kraft promised
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: us an improved product on the field. Meanwhile, you're paying
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty million dollars for stadium renovation, but
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: you don't have the balls enough to go and at
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: least talk to Lamar Jackson ask them what he wants.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: It's March sixteen. Well do you know that they didn't
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: do that March team? Yeah, on the field. Yeah he's
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: talking specifically. I mean maybe they did talk to Lamar Jackson.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know that. I don't know. Yeah. Like I said,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: my problem is there's no buzz around this team. There's
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: no buzz on social media about this team. We were
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: promised an improve an improved products. At least get in
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: the room, at least like at least gives me something
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: like going for ju Ju a TikTok star. What's the
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: point of having his massive scoreboard when there's not gonna
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: be no point scored? WHOA. It's obvious that Belichick doesn't
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: believe in mac Jones, because if he did, he wouldn't
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: have taken his Binkie and Jakobe Myers away. Like, it
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense to me. The Patriot way is, Okay,
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: we're gonna draft you, we're gonna develop you, and then
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: we're not gonna pay you. As a matter of fact,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: We're gonna go out and get somebody else and pay
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: him the same exact money which we should have paid
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: Jakobe Myers. My problem is with this franchise is that
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: you're you're middling. You're middling. You got Aaron Rodgers in
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: the division, you got dog walk by the Bills the
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: last few years. You can't win it the Vision anymore,
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: and now the Miami Dolphins afister passed you. But you
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: want me to go spend money to go see mass
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: Corkle Jones. You throw to Juju Wow when they're off, Like,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: it doesn't make any sense to me. Why can't Belichick
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: or Robert Kraft just pony up and at least give
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: us a last dance. At least get in the room
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson and ask him what he wants, because
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you can't win with
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: this type of offense anymore. If you gotta go out
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: and get a franchise quarterback. And I don't care what
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: he pays for. Why are fans so upset with? Well,
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: what do we dumpster diet? What do we shop at
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: the thrift store? If you want to get better? If
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: you want and you're gonna get that investment back, by
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: the way, because you're gonna get it through Jersey Seals,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: You're gonna get buzz our social media. You completely change
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: the trajectory off your franchise going forward rather than middling
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: for the next five years something. That's all I'm asking.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: At least get in the room with Lamar Jackson. I okay,
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: love it. I love the passion. Yeah, that was like favorite,
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: that was that's my favorite call. That was really good.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: That was a mic drop, the whole type of phone call.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: Paul would have liked that, and it meant a lot
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: because it came from someone that listens and doesn't always
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: feel the need to weigh in. Today he felt the
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: need to weigh that was that was beautiful. That was
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: an epic call. Now, the chances if they had gotten
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: in the room with Lamar, chances our Lamar would have
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: said something. So they probably haven't. But honestly, we don't know.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: We don't know if they hadn't reached out to Lamar's
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: mom and say, hey, mom, what what does he want?
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: Or you know. I like the point he made about
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: like there's no buzz though, like we'll hear like I
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: don't Patriots are interested in these players social media, but
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: the salary is an issue and it's just yeah, I
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: don't know. I would like to hear more of that stuff.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: I would like to hear that they're getting after it.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: But I think I don't think it's even about social media.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: I think it's about like even what I said on
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: Tuesday in the show of like when you come to
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: play the Patriots, were are you scared of what challenges you? Nothing?
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: Right now? And like what Meanwhile, when we go into
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: the Patriots locker room and they're facing other teams, they're like, yeah,
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: we have to try to stop Lamar Jackson. Yeah, we
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: have to you know, try to stop borrow Chase but
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: when you play the Patriots and you go in their
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: locker room, you're asking them, like, what challenges did you
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: face with this offense? Nothing? Just say that about Tyler Huntley.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: So but but I'm saying, like, there's just nothing that,
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: like you really that scares you. It's just been so predictable,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: so boring, so like it's just not esthetically pleasing. No,
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: and so there is no bus. There is no bus
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: the agency that that would would fit there. I'm with
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: you in the take. But like those players haven't moved yet,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: and we're all just getting all crazy and all riled
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: up about the fact that the Patriots haven't had to
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: sit down with Lamar. Has Lamar Jackson been traded? Has
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: he Where is Lamar Jackson playing for a different team
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: as he signed an extension with Baltimore? Is there any
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: movement whatsoever as an example, Okay, I'm just Hopkins been traded.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: We need to find money for DeAndre Is. Has O'Dell
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: signed with a new team. Has Jerry Judy moved? Yeah? No,
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: It's it's all good points. It's all good points. But
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: I think that if you were targeting a top flight quarterback,
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: you'd be doing it right now you don't wait on that. Yeah, no, no,
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: but but we don't know if they're doing that or yeah,
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: we don't. But to your point, do you think that
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: like we're going to get an update that Odell or
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: Jerry Judy or we're making one of these trades, Like
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: is that feasible? Like because for me, I've ruled it out.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: It's a pipe dream. All I can tell you is this,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: And I try not to say too much because I
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: don't I don't want to get in any hot water.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: Those conversations are going on in the building, That conversation
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: about those level of players is going on a hundred
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: yards from here. That the director of player personnel told
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: me in an interview that those conversations are going on.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: We printed it on Patriots dot com that those conversations
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: are going on about this team that they need to
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: get that dynamic playmaker, that they need to pony up
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: for those dynamic playmakers. Unfortunately, right now, for days into
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: free agency, none of those guys have moved yet. Yeah,
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: and you know, the Patriots don't want to be always,
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: you know, negotiating, negotiating against themselves, so they might have
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: gone to a Jerry Judy or ob j and said, listen,
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: we want you here. You know, here's our ballpark. Go
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: see what you're you know, can get come back to us.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: We're interested in you, you know. So maybe it's just
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: gonna take time if it does happen, which I just
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: think is good business generally, Like I mean, I don't
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: want to I mean I don't want to pour water
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: on it, but like, don't you I always just feel
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: like the Patriots weren't, Just like, it's good business. You
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: should reach out on anybody that could potentially help the team.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: Let's say, what do you think and what's it gonna take. Okay,
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: not for us, but we've you know, and then it's
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: reported as well the Patriots checked in on him. Oh
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: my god, you know. Like so, I mean there's varying
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: degrees of interest, and there's also a baseline of due
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: diligence and needing to know what's available around the league,
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: and I think, you know, they're on top of it.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: So and you never know, like the Bengals just signed
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: Orlando Brown, they just spent a ton of cash. So
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: maybe now it's time where they start picking up the
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: phone about te Higgins, you know, because they're not gonna
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: pay him, you know, so who knows. Evan's right, it's early.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: It's early, so let's see what happens. And they haven't
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: really made you know, Juju was like a solid move,
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: but that's not really a splash, you know, like like
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: it's and I think that they still have the resources
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: to make those splash moves. So I think part of
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: it is you need to let it play out a
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: little bit because everybody gets all hot and bothered this
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: first week with you know, teams reaching out to guys,
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: what are you think? And how about this? How about
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: You're going back and forth in all kinds of different
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: ways trying to find compensation that that will work for everybody.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: So it's ongoing. It's ongoing right now, and like Evan said,
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: we're day four, so who knows. Within the next day
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: and a half it could continue to look different. It
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: certainly looks a lot different to me. Maybe not world's
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: different than it did on Tuesday. You know, I'm interested.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: I don't has anyone heard what Chiefs fans are saying
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: with Myers coming in? You mean raiders? I mean raiders? Yeah, no, no,
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen a wait a wait, he didn't never mind,
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: I'm all confused. Oh my god, Mark that one Tamara
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: was what had up on the screen she had Jacoby
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: looked like he's doing his intro press conference in that
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: uh in that press room that we were that we
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: were in out there in the taj Mahal. So, yeah,
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: it was very sad. And I message my friends there,
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you are getting a gym in Jacoby. You're
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: gonna love him in the locker room. Yeah, I love him.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: They already have Adam, so I mean, there's great. Let's
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: go to Tyree and South Carolina. What's up Tyree? Hey,
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you said China, but I'm in Traston,
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: I said South Carolina. Oh, soccer. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: First of all, I love Evan, Um. I hate that
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: everybody's picking on him today. He's a great guy, you know. Um.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: But I think as far as like the off season
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: acquisitions that we're trying to make, you know, maybe we
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: do end up with Mike Kiseki, or know, we get
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: Jerry Judy with the contract that he has, But overall,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: I don't really know. I think we should really be
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: looking forwards to draft overall for what our future is
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: because we have great pieces on our defense and we
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: have solid resources on our offense right now with the
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: offensive line acquisitions that we've made. So why don't we
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: just look to the draft? Are you guys not hot
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: on this draft? Yes, this is what I've been saying
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: the whole time. It's like, I mean, I you got
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: to do some stuff and free agency to round the
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: roster out and the move like Juju is good. But
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: if this team is going to get back to where
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: they were at the top of the division, it will
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: come through the draft. It will not come through you know,
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: a bunch of splashy free And you got to remember
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: a good draft is you know, if you know in
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: the immediate future is when you get two guys who
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: immediately make an impact. That's a good draft, you know.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: But that's not going to turn around your team unless
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: it's at the quarterback position. Yeah, and it's not going
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: to be at the quarterback position. So yes, totally looking
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: forward to the draft for maybe an impact player or two,
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: but also for building towards the future. Absolutely, it's critical.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: It's critical. You know, how you got into this mess.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: That's that's how they're setting this thing up, is they're
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: setting this thing up so that when they get to
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: the draft, they get on the clock at fourteen in
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: the first round, they are not forced to take a
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: particular position. They can look at it and say, who's
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: our best player on the board, and we're gonna take
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: that guy. Now, do I think position matters yet? Like,
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna take a running back, right,
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: but they're gonna look at it and say, who's you know,
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: we have these four or five positions that we want
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: to hit on in the first three rounds, four rounds,
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: who's the best guy that we have rated here? I
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: think last year they got into the into a position
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: in the off season by trading Shack Mason and not
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: matching the deal for Ted Carriss where they had to
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: take a guard and they were they were back against
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: the wall at that position, and that's how you get
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: the cold, strange pick. Now, the way that they've set
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: it up, they don't run into that situation. So, yeah,
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: the callers said, the draft is gonna be everything, but
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: we have six more weeks to go to the draft,
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: and I don't think the patients meter is right And
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: just highlight highlight the last two draft classes too. Like
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: those guys need to all continue to take steps forward.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: Josh Uch needs to take a little bit of a
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: step forward, maybe round out his game a little bit,
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: you know, Marcus Jones needs to like take that step
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: to be the full time slot corner. You know. They
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: need to figure out a way to replace what Devin
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: mccordy did. You know, in piece meal. It's not going
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: to be one guy. So it's just there's a lot
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: of time left. So I get I get why everybody's anxious.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: I mean the first few days it was, you know,
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: you want some sexy, you want to come out of
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: the gates with a big haymaker. That sets the tone,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: and it wasn't really what they did. I mean, it
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: is true though, you get an email right at the
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: end of the season saying things are going to change,
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: and I think everyone was trying to be patient all
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: last season with you know, an unorthodox way of coaching
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: a team without an offensive coordinator and other things. So
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: I think like the frustration is stemming from all of that,
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: and it's just, yeah, I'm hard, that's not Let's not
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: underestimate or undervalue the move to bring in Bill O'Brien,
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: you know, when's the last time that Bill that Bill
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: basically fired a coordinator? Yeah, I mean, all they all
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: move on to better things or retire or whatever. But
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: when's the last time that Bill just simply relieved somebody
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: of their duties. I don't google that googe is the
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: only means. But he wasn't a coordinate. Yeah, and he also,
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, they had Dante coming out of retirement, so
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: r peas a little bit. Did they feel like they
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: kind of try to get out of peas to that? Yeah,
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: that one fizzled out for sure. Yeah, okay, but I
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: thought that he was kind of temporary when he came.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: But yeah, okay, I don't know. But but it doesn't
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: be surprised. I mean, I gotta be honest, Like, as
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: bad as last year was and as much as all
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: the offensive stuff was confirmed, I'm still surprised that Matt
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: Patricia is just out, like completely. I really didn't see
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: that coming. So I do think it's it's significant. Yeah,
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: let's go to Sean and Vancouver. What's up Sean? Hey? Everyone,
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: I doubt mister Meyers still listening, but we all love
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: Raiders Unfiltered Decided, are you? Yeah? I have to go
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: to that I don't think I will, but you know,
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: he was the best Jacob was the best receiver as
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: the Patriots had the last three seasons. And I think
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: moving to the Raiders is going to be good for
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: him because he has the Vontams there. He's not going
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: to be blanketed on every obvious passing down, so I
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: could see him getting me over a thousand yards. Maybe
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: it's not going to be fourteen hundred and one hundred
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: eleven catches, but I think he's going to have a
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: good year. And but this is this is what brings
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: us back to the Patriots, and we're still waiting Juju.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: I'm still I'm kind of happy. I think he's similar
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: to Myers. Maybe he has a higher ceiling and a
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: better yacht. But if we need we need something else.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: We need that number one and that's that's what I'm
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: waiting for, and we'll hopefully get that. Yeah, yeah, all right,
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: thanks Sean. Um John writes in says I am not
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: mad at Evan. Thank you. I agree that, I agree
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: that Juju is an upgrade, but we still need a
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: wr one. I like the signing, but we still miss Myers. Yeah,
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: so there's just no nobody's disputing that they can't be
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: done with Juju. And I think one thing that I
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: would definitely if we get to the again, if we
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: get to that Tuesday show after the draft and they're
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: just expecting Taekwon Thornton to take a leap and they
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: run it back with everybody else just plus Juju, then
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to be happy, Like I'm not going
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: to be satisfied with that. So that's the one thing
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: that I'm concerned about is that you talk about who
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: would be a nice compliment next to Juju. A speed
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: guy like Taekwon Thornton in theory would be the right player.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: And I am a little bit concerned that they think
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: that Taekwon is just going to be that guy. I
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: just didn't see that enough evidence from his rookie season
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: that he can be that guy. Tim our friend from
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: Duncan writes in I'm hearing all the negative feedback Evan
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: is receiving, and I want to say I am in
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: agreement with him. I like Jacobe, but I believe Juju
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: will be an improvement over him, and maybe he won't
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: throw it to the other team and eliminate the playoffs.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: Pages from the playoffs. That Wow, that was who was
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: giving you hate? I'm very confused. Oh the emails are yeah,
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: I got it. I was like, I don't know where
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: you're talking coming on him hard. I mean, I did
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: give you grief about the Josh Allen thing. But outside
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: of that, I love that you're taking all the arrows
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: because I've been in completely lockstep with you about I
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: think maybe I'm just I just I get annoyed this
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: time of year, as you all can probably tell, I
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: get I get annoyed because people are so impatient. Like
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: this roster building is a long process. Okay, there's checkpoints
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: throughout the season, the off season. You have the start
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: of free agency, Then you have the draft, Then you
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: have training camp, and there's usually moves, you know, roster
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: cutdowns and that type of stuff. Usually there's some more
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: player movement at that point. Then you have the trade
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: deadline during the season. Like you're different, we are at
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: step one of I would say, really three steps of
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: true player movement, which obviously the draft and the end
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: of training camp being the other one. Just give it
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: some time, like, give him some time. If they don't
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: do anything, then we can all be up in arms.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: But right now, everybody, like Mike said earlier in the show,
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: wants to win the Super Bowl in the first four
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: days of free agency. That's not how it works. I think.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: I think everyone has that mentality because of the Rams
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: and how they just stacked like and they won the
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: super Bowl. But I get where they are now, I know,
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: but they did. They did what they whatever they could
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: to get the guys there, and they won the Super Bowl.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: And so I think that when you see they went
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: all in, they literally did again cap space where you're
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: like it doesn't exist. But I think that's why. And
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: I think you see other teams, I guess, well, the
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: Panthers they really needed to get that even steps different
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: with the Rams. Ramsey was a trade deadline acquisition. Odell
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: was released mid season by Cleveland and signed with LA
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: after that, so they still kept adding players that made
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: huge dividends for them in the playoffs. So they weren't done.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: Like they didn't just get Matthew Stafford in February. I
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: think that trade went down early and then they're just like,
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: all right, cool, yeah, see you in the super Bowl.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: Like that. You know, they kept on adding players and
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: that's what good teams do. Yeah, and I think that's
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: what they want. They want the Patriots to keep adding
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: players like the forty nine ers continue to add players.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously they had some serious quarterback issues later
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: on that they weren't planning, Like you can't plan for
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: those things. But I think they want the Patriots to
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: become that team. They will take those risks that they
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: want the Patriots to go and get I get that,
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: but you gotta give it some time to to let
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: it materialize. The market is still you know, they really
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: haven't had a tight end that's even signed anywhere yet.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: Juju and Jacoby Myers are. I think Paris Campbell just
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: signed with the Giants, and I think that him in
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: hardy year in Buffalo. We're starting to see some movement
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: in the wide receiver market, but not not a ton.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: I also think you want to see the page it's
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: get away from the Patriot way, and like I think
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: that you have to be able to adapt and you
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: have to be able to change with the times, Like
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: you can't just do everything the way you've been. I
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: don't think they signed you do five years ago. I
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: just don't think that that's that's a move. I just
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: I just can't get over though, like they did this
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: and two years ago, like it went crazy and free agency,
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: like you know we're talking about they need to change
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: it up, like they change it up two years ago.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: But those exactly like every rebuilding or are we just
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: trying to patch and like win again and be a
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: top tier? So how would you rebuild a team? Do
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: you think the only how do you rebuild a team
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: is by is like burning down start from scratch and
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: but don't you feel like that's what they kind of
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: did in twenty twenty week. I don't think we can
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: do that. I think we have a rabid fan base.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: I don't want to see that happen. I don't want
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: to see us tanking. But it's just that that's why
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: people are so anxious and there's so much angst because
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: it's like what are we what? I but also think
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: all that money that was spent, None of those guys
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: I like would have probably spent that much money for it,
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: Like I feel like they were kind of off brands,
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: like they weren't. They weren't like why johnath Smith, why?
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: Like I think there's just those contract I mean, it
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: wasn't just about like the bad contract it was just like,
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: but it's just like just one but those are the
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: most out at the time, that had they done those
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: on Tuesday this week, that the people would not be
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: have the torches out, you know. And the reality of
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: that situation though, was that, yes, we made some free
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: agency splashes, how much difference is it gonna make a
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: little A little like some of these guys will work out, okay,
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: are not going to work out. So I just I
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: just think it's a little bit of a cautionary tale
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: to be like, all right, maybe I'm not going to
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: lose my mind that we didn't reproduce twenty twenty one
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: because I saw how that worked out. Like again, like
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: who are we? I think we're a team that needs
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: to be build through the draft and needs to do
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: it the right way. The way they got into this
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: was they missed on important draft picks, too many, too
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: many high round draft picks at the end of Tom
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: Brady's career, you know, mid midway twenty ten. They picked
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: up Edmond Edelman, they picked up Gronkowski. They found generational
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: players Dante hide Tower, you know, guys that would come
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: in and be part of the championships. They didn't find
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: those guys in twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: They have to find those guys again. They have to
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: find stars, and they come all in the draft. You
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: mentioned the forty nineteen Fred Warner. What was he a
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: fifth round pick? I mean they exist, like guys like
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: that do exist. I know it's hard, you can't count
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: on it, but you have to draft well, and I
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: just I don't see any other way back to the
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: top than that. Then nailing these drafts, including drafting well,
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: you can't trade back like you need to like stay
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: or trade up. I mean, I think there's an argument
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: you made that you need pure talent that usually just
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: comes at the top. But but you know, depending you
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: get to fourteen and you're like, I don't know, I
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: don't love the like, you know, trade back, but don't
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: pick a guard. But hell, you know, could be instead
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: of fourteen, can we pick somebody at twenty seven and
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: we pick up something in the forty two? You know,
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: I hate to keep apart pining on that Fred, but
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: like that, No, no, no, you're you're pitching in the
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: choir like that. That pick just set this whole thing back.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: It set this whole thing back at least a year.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: I will never forget. Like when we were live in
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: the stadium for that show, when that pick was made,
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: you could hear a pen drop in the room. Yeah,
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: pen drop. Poor guy, he said to you, ruined our team.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: He's awesome, Joe Wrightson, he says, I feel like this
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: is pretty simple. If Juju is the number one receiver,
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: this sucks. No, right, you're right, you're right, but he's not.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, if if if they think that
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: Juju smith User is gonna like swapping Jacoby for him,
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: and then we run it back with the Sandy, you
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: might end up being but he can't be that. That's
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: that's not that's not plan A. Let me put it
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: to that one, right, Eric from Amherst Burg. Can we
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: talk about Juju being Josh Gordon two point zero one
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: great season four years ago, who's been with guys like
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: a B and Kelsey taking the pressure off what he's
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: gonna do with this cast. We know, we know what
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: Jacobe gave us and had the chemistry with Mac and
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: was producing. Juju was gonna put up the same numbers
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: as Myers. Okay, well, this is nothing like Josh Gordon.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: So that was and they're a lot of other issues
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: going on with with Josh Gordon, and I mean he
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: just wasn't even the same player even close. I mean,
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: just go back and watch Juju in the Super Bowl,
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: watch him with Kansas City, like he can still play.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna like rewind to something we talked about
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: speaking of people complimenting each other. Look at this picture.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: I saw this, Yeah, Neil shared Jack Jones and Juju
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: at at USC Trojans wild Don't Don't Don't. Did you
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: go to a lot of games at the Colt? I
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: went to a couple. I had a friend who was
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: a Washington State fan, so he just got dragged to that.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: Actually go Yeah. So the best game that I went
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: to was Penn State USC Rose Bowl. It was dartled
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: against se Quon and it was like one of the
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: best football games I've seen live. They just went toe
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: to toe, four corners, just lighting up the scoreboard back
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: and forth. It was great. USC ended up winning the game.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: But the closest I got to a Rose Bowl was
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: that I had to like take my boss's sons USC
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: Jersey and meet them somewhere so that they could go
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: to the Vince Young Matt Liner epic game of the
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: century that was that That Rose Bowl. Yeah, but that's
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: another great spot too. They're nice too, too nice. I
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: mean they're old, but you can feel kind of the
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: full policum is fun too. But don't don't get lost
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: walking around the area around the policum. That's too Uh.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: Let's see Matt and Manchester UK. I said. I just
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: want to say, let's not confuse Juju's potential bad Juju
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: as a media social media guy with his football skills.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: Juju is a businessman who was into digital content, who's
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: setting up for his career after football. Let's judge him
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: on his football. What I will say is, I'm not
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: sure if Bill will understand Juju's presence in clear love
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: and addiction of social media snap face whatever. I mean,
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: you have to adjust with the times, like I just
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think that that Bill is this.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: You know, no one can be on social media like
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: get delete your ticktok, like you have to evolve in
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: that record ard And you know, as Tamara said, I
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: mean there's you know, bigger points of evolving in terms
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: of football stuff. But with that stuff, everybody's on it, Like,
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: what are you gonna do. You're gonna have employees come
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: in and you can't be on soci just gonna start
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: referring to him as like player, a player because I
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: think his name it really does. It comes with this,
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: this all this extra baggage of JSS and JSM. We'll
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: get to TikTok and like all this like other stuff
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: off the field that everybody keeps harping on, Like this
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: is another pet peeve of mine. As you all know,
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: this is not about football, Like you're not even talking
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: about football. You're talking about how you don't like that
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: the guy makes TikTok is on TikTok, Like what is this?
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: What does he do on TikTok? I gotta I gotta
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: follow him, I gotta check. I think we should sign
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: o b J and then make it our goal to
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: have all our offensive weapons have three names. Oh, I
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: would love it. From a writing standpoint, I'm gonna get
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: behind that a hundred. It's all initial. That was about
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: a two. I was rely about to text you that
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: last night. I'm like, yeah, I'm done with right now.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: Smith Schuster, alrighty, oh yeah. James Pettigrew the most interesting
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: Patriots fan of the world says, um, you know, regarding
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: how the Patriots would do business in the offseason, it
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: says there's a difference between good business and always setting
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: the floor in terms of contract offers. Oh, well, they
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: up been the chiefs for juju, so I'm not sure
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: if they set the floor on that one. There you go.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: Let's get back to the phones. The A sticket outline
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: will go to Aaron in Virginia. What's up, Aaron? Aaron,
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's Teren. What is it, Terence? Terrence? Okay, yeah, Terrence.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: UM for one, thank you for having me. I listened
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: to you guys for the past couple of years now,
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: and it's kind of like my first time. But thank
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: you UM too. I feel like we're in the same
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: position where we were last year, where we have to
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: sit back and watch. UM. I do like the move.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: I consider it like a D plus from UM. Uh.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: Sorry to Kobe Myers, but UM is definitely a sit
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: I can you know, wait type of move. We are
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: in a better position coaches wise, UM, We're just really
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: gonna have to sit back and wait. Uh. I do
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: see a lot more explosiveness when it does come to
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: the offense, but I do also kind of get concerns
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: with the defense as well, because a big president is
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: lost with uh um, I'm sorry, Devin mccordy not there
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: so um and we still have Matthews later as a
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: you know, veteran. But on the defensive side, I do
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: kind of brace some type of concerning That's it, all right,
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: Thanks Aaron's for the call. Let's go to um. I'm
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: not Michael in South Carolina. What's up, Michael, Michael, Michael, Michael, Hello, Michael.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: I think I think a lot of this today. Yeah, Quiet,
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: I think the Juju thing is a good thing to
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: keep in the back pocket of How are they gonna
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: get guys, Mike, nobody wants to play here like Juju.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: Juju picked to play with the Patriots for more money
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: to overplay. We want the locker room guy now, Mike.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: We want the scheme because can the homegrown town. Cody
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: in Indiana says, I'm disgusted that the team hasn't gone
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: and traded for Patrick Mahomes, George Kittle, and t J. Watt.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: What are we doing? Good grief? I finally agree with Paul.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: We are such a winey fan base. I personally like
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: the Juju deal. I think he's an upgrade who provides
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: more playmaking ability than Jacoby. I also would say Juju
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: is not enough and we still need to get a
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: true wide receiver one. But she's callers, calm down, It's
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: March sixteen, shelax. Everyone's on the same page. Some people
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: are just more animated than others. You know what I
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: think about And you know what, it's fine. I'm being
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: a fine like a long time ago. I just accepted that, like,
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: this is sports, and anyone can watch it and do
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: the way they want to do it. And if you
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: want to bitch about what the team is or isn't doing,
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: go for it. And if you want to be overly
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: positive about the go for it. Like it just it
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter. It's sports, Like it's just supposed to be fun.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: Do it your own way. Mike writes in No Paul,
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: thank god, Evan and Juice are spot on, big upgrade
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: with Juju. It's way too early to start whining. Yeah,
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: I mean it's still Thursday. I mean, like you realize
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: by like through like I mean, you know and honestly
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: like not that the weekend is a deadline. But you
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: know Friday, it's news dump time, and all of a sudden,
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: Oh look seven o'clock tomorrow night. Look what they did.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: L from Wisconsin says Mike is one hundred percent correct.
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: Teams need to be built through the draft. Too bad,
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: we have a guy who can't draft. You gotta get
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: over it. That's a cheap shot. Uh. Joey writes in
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: I understand why people are upset about not keeping Myers,
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: but I also think it's delusional to say that it
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: was a bad move. We got Juju for less than
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: the Raiders got Myers. He's way better after the catch.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: I love Myers, and I think it's unfortunate we couldn't
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: retain a guy who truly pulled himself up through the ranks.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: But the everyone, but the everyone loves the forty nine ers,
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: and they put a tremendous amount of value on Yak.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: Let's get the wide receiver one and have a good season. Okay,
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: I mean go ahead. I don't know, no, I just
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: gonna say that. You know, I texted you that clip
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: when we were going back and forth. You texted me
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: the whipper. Yeah this is that that's that's my medical text.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: And then I texted you the clip of him taking
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: that slant like forty five yards against Buffalo where he
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: breaks the tackle. You know, he gets a little bit
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: loose on the line of scrimmage, catches the slant and
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: stride breaks Jordan Poyer's tackle in the middle of the
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: field and then breaks it down for another forty forty
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: five yards and that Jacoby is just not making that play,
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: Like I'm sorry, He's just not making that play. And
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: those are the types of plays that in this offense,
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: especially with this quarterback who you're not going to see
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 1: bombs away with with Mac's success. One of the things though,
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: I saw one of the compilations for Juju yesterday and
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: it was all Patrick Mahomes off platform there is I
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: think it's a good ain't gonna happen? No, I think
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: that's a good point. The one that's something I thought too.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: I thought that too, you know, just totally mean a
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: lot of those ones. And I had the same thing
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: about Agalore with his big season with Derek Carr, where
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: it felt like he's got a lot of plays, but
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: they're always like lating the down. He just fires it
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: and downfield. So I I that's that's a point. Yeah,
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: there's one. One of his longest touchdown of the year
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: against Buffalo last year. He like spins out of a
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: tackle and two guys run into each other. That play
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: is not happening. But he also didn't play with Big
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: Ben when he was coming just not that good anymore.
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: So like I feel like he has that's an excuse
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: to marry, you know what I'm saying, Like he has
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: played with guys who aren't don't have the skills as
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: you can say the same thing for Jacoby, Like he
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: played with a rookie quarterback and a guy and I'm saying,
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: but I'm saying that Juju can play with both. He
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: can play with deal with someone who's like but I'm saying,
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: like Juju has played in two styles of offense, like
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: one with Big Ben where he was like nowhere, yes,
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: and then one with Mahomes who's making ridiculous. But that's
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: the biggest difference is you look at those those seven
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: yard passes where a guy like Jacobe probably gets seven yards, right,
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: he gets it, but he catches it and it maybe
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: it's third and six and that might move the chains
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: in that situation. But Juju has that ability to take
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: that seven yards and turn it into twenty five. And
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: that's something that I think in that specific role in
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: their offense is needed because you're not going to get
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: more explosive and more dynamic if you're going seven yards
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: at a time. Now you have somebody that if he
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: makes a guy miss, all of a sudden, we're in
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: the open field and we're running away with it. They
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: didn't have that in this offense, and they need more
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: of that. I just that's to the bigger point. I
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: just feel like they have no guys that get yack.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's like the whole team. It's like everybody
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: catches the ball and falls down. And that was part
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: of the you know thing I hate about build set.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: But some of the hope with with Thornton is like,
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: you know, can we have an offense and maybe this
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: is you know, goes to the to the offense last year,
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: but you know, can we hit Thornton and stride on
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: a slant just let him go, you know, like let
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: him do what your buffalo guy thing, or just he's
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: just running over. It's like just run over, race the
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: guy to the sideline. We're gonnait. Get the hash and
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: turn it up. Where do the odds And we'll see
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: Marcus spilling offense again. You'll see him, but they should
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: be counting on that's not fair to him. And I
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: don't think that's two or three plays a game. You
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: should have enough offensive weapons that you don't have to
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: go to that. But I think he's too good and
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: why not, Like you know, I just I'm all for
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: developing Marcus Jones until like one of the most unique
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: and interesting players in the NFL. You know, to your point,
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: and you know, what are we excited about? Exciting about him?
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: Like this could be a legitimate three way football player
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: who contributes, you know, going forward on all downs. Before
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: I go to the next person on the ace ticket
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: hut line, is this is this name? Correct? The person
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: from California? Faith twel Winder? It is? Okay, we'll see
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: uh so tal Wonder in California? Is that right? Did
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: I get your first name right? You did? You did? Yes? Okay,
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: that's a that's an unusual first name, but okay, yeah,
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: I've called a few other times, Bred you got my
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: name right every single time, so it's me. We'll remind
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: him next time. So there, Eric, thanks for taking my call. Man.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to call in. I was listening and
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to show some show some love to Evan.
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: You know, he's be't getting beat up, but I think
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: he's right. I think we've been super spoil wes. Need
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: to relax, calm down, and have some patience. You know.
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: I think Jude was definitely an upgrade over Jacoby. Jacoby
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 1: was a great locker room guy. But come on, what
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: are we doing here? We want good locker room guys.
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: You guys talked about how these days, just those diva
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: receivers that they are, they're making this big, big kind place, right,
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: you know, a j Brown or DeAndre Hopkins or Devantae
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: ad him. So I think we need to be a
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: little bit more patient. I'm not sure if we're gonna
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: get one of those guys. Maybe hopefully we can't get
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins or someone else. But I think we've got
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 1: to be patient and and just just relax a little bit.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: I know, to Jets to making him move the Dolphins
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: and making them move. Will you owned the division for
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: two decades and I think it will be back. So
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: just have some patients, relax. It's a it's a long
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: term process. Nice Okay, thank you, thanks to win. Someone
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: even killed. Let's go to Ronan in the UK. What's
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: up Ronan? My name is Bob Hi. How are you
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: guys the first time caller from yank Kingdom? Okay, on
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: the first time or is today? I'd just like to
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: respond to what I believe Xavier said from Carolina earlier
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: in the call talking about Mac Jones, and he said
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: that he doesn't think mac Jones is a franchise quarterback,
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: and I'd like to argue in favor of mac Jones. Okay,
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 1: I watched Mac Jones all season. I thought he has
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 1: way more potential than a lot of people give it
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: give him credit for. And I'd like to go through
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: the last five games of the season with Mac Jones.
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: So against the car play by play, we went down
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: early and Matt Jones came back with twenty unanswered points.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: Against the Raiders, there was the you know, Jacobe Meyers lateral.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: We almost went into overtime, and I feel like we
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 1: had a lot of momentum in that game. Against the Bengals,
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: we were twenty two to zero and then he came
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: back all the way and it ended with a fumble.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: We all know how that went. We beat the Dolphins
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: in what I thought was a really really good game
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: for Mac, and then against the Bills after all what
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: happened with the heart attack and all that, they go
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: on the field and is a kick return for a
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: touchdown and Mac Jones comes on the field with the
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: offense and runs for a touchdown. In that game that
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: Patriots had more offensive points than Josh Allen and the
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: Bills did. So I'm totally on board with Mac Jones.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: I think he's going to be great next year. I
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: disagree with all those people who want to bring in Lamar.
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: I think giving out two first round picks, but that
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: is a bad idea. And I'm on board with Juju
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 1: and I want to receive or that we don't need
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: to give picks away for because I like those bick
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: all right. I love it some positivity, that's all. Where
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: I kind of like to see Paul do his thing.
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: It's kind of fun now, yeah, now you know, And
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: I love the defensive Mac. Yeah. Um. I will say
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: though that nothing on the offense looked right last and
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: including Mac. But was he a victim of that of
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: the whole disarray? Probably, So we'll see. Yeah, you know, um. Now,
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: Paul playing the part of Paul, Paul will point out that.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: And even in that rookie season where you know he
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: was good, he wasn't good down the stretch. You know,
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: something happened down the stretch and you know the team faded.
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: So but we'll see. Let's let's go. We've got a
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: real offensive coordinator in here. This is now his third year.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: I still believe even if Jacobe was still here and
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: Juju wasn't, that this group of offensive players did not
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: live up to their potential last year and they were
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: better than what they showed, and that could have been
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: part of the offense problems too. Let's see what happens
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: this year. I you know, I'm not here saying we
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: got to get rid of Mac. I am not saying
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: that that that you know, to me, we're not worried
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: about the quarterback position right now, right now. Yeah, maybe
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: we will be at by the end of the season,
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: but right now, I'm not worried about that. I'm worried
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 1: about everything else. Yeah, the quarterback position right now to
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: me is settled for this year. This is what it's
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: going to be, and we're gonna see what this kid
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: can do. And let's build the rest of the team. Yeah,
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: I agree. I mean, I don't you know, I don't
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 1: think he's totally you know, without blaming some stuff, there
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: were some stuff I wish that we were a little
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: bit different from Mac. But I agree, and I think
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: that this is the year about let's give him a chance.
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: We're giving him an offensive coordinator that you know, he
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: knows a little bit. I know it was a brief
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: passing a time that they were together, but you're giving
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: him some different pieces to work with. Now, we got
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: to know, we gotta know this year. I but I'm
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: with you. I think we got to know this year.
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: We'll find out this year and then you know, then
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: you're then you're talking about next year. All right, where
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 1: is it? I just hope, you know. To Paul's point
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 1: is that he doesn't think that they're going to do
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: enough to really truly get a sense of Mac or
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: to give him enough, and that we'll still be saying,
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: well he really didn't have that. No. Listen, for some people,
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: he did enough for them to believe he's not the guy.
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: So why can't in a season he do enough to believe?
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: You know, it's unfair, It's unfair. So let's let's just
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: see when it comes to mac um. You know, does
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: he have to work on his you know, his comportment
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: is absolutely absolutely um. But he's a tennis guy. I
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: get I get it. You know, uh, figure it out.
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: Is he a good locker room guy? Though he's got chemistry?
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of I think players were saying
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 1: they liked to but I think, yeah, I think guys,
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: uh oh going to the Steelers. Wow, that's a good place.
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: He's a full buck. That's a good place you can play. Oh,
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: and Steelers are releasing Miles Jack. It's yeah, Um, let's
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: see Calvin and Connecticut love the fire in the Call
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: of Xavier. But I'm not sure if it's all correct.
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 1: There is some truth to trust the process. It's only March.
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 1: But where I do agree. I used to have fun
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: watching the Patriots and go into games, even if they
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: didn't win it all that year they had Brady and
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: Gronk and Edelman stars where you saw the stadium full
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: of jerseys. Who makes you want to buy a jersey? Nowadays?
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: Maybe Jude On. I don't know. It hasn't been fun
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: to watch the last few seasons get stars or draft
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: and develop stars. It hasn't happened in five years. Your
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: team will perform better too, Higgins or Judy or JSN
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: and I will jump for joy. I think, yeah, Jude
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: jerseys for sure. Juju could sell some jerseys. It's as
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: funny as I'm like, I'm all for like Jerry's Judy.
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: That's great, but really, like, is that really the guy?
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 1: They need some speed on the outside now, which is
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 1: why I go back to that. I'm well worried that
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 1: they think it's Taekwon, but yeah, they need some They
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: need some speed on the outside because Juju is going
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: to be the one in the middle of the field.
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: You gotta get those safeties off of them, open up
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: some space. How it says, it's official. The Patriots have
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: the whiniest fan base of all. Good God, it's been
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: like three days. Let's relax and see where it goes.
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 1: My takes love Jacoby and what he brought to the team.
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: Jujiu is a good replacement and a slight upgrade. Robinson
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 1: is an upgrade over Harris assuming he's hell. Reef and
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: Anderson are solid pickups, and Bill depth resigning Pepper Jones,
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: Davis McMillan McDermott, Fern's slater all solid resignings. The division
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: Rogers to Jets is far to Jets two point zero.
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: Ramsey defense great player, nice pickup, still can only cover
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: one receiver at a time. How Tua goes is how
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: the team goes. Not their best defensive not the best
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: defensive back. Bills lost the decordinator and their best tackling linebacker.
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: Let's relax, have some patience and see where this goes.
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 1: I am interested to see how what Buffalo does to
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: whether that storm a little bit because they're a team
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 1: that we always say to kind of tease the Bills
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: fan base. I think a little bit. But at the
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: same time, I think it's valid that sustainability is the
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 1: hardest part. Like you got the quarterback. I think you're
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: gonna be relevant for forever because you have the quarterback.
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 1: But Leslie Fraser's out, Tremade Edmonds is out. I think
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: Jordan Poyer Micah Hyde are getting up there in age,
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: like how do you start to to get that next
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: wave behind Josh Allen in there? It's going to be
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 1: interesting and expectations are raising, and it's like I think
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: the fan base as I was, and we all were
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 1: you're aware, it's it's ticking. You got this quarterback, You've
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 1: got it going right now. But every season is very valuable.
• 1:58:31
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