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Speaker 1: The Large Nerdron Collider Podcast is a production of my
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Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Hey everybody, welcome to the Large nor John
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Speaker 1: Collider Podcast, the podcast that's all about the geeky things
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Speaker 1: happening in the world around us and how very excited
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Speaker 1: we are about them. I'm Ariel casting and with me,
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Speaker 1: as always is the lovable Jonathan Strickland. I want carnage.
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Speaker 1: That's so lovable. Thank you. I'm just living up to
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Speaker 1: the brand. Hey, Ariel, Yes, I've got a question for you. Okay, Ariel,
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Speaker 1: you have been tapped to be part of a heist.
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Speaker 1: What's your role on the team? Oh, godly, Jonathan, give
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Speaker 1: a girl some morning now. Um. I think that I
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Speaker 1: would be the pack mule. So you're just like wearing
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Speaker 1: cargo pants and like a Fannie pack and one of
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Speaker 1: those vests with all the pockets like Yelena was in
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Speaker 1: Black Widow. Yeah, because like I'm like, I want to
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Speaker 1: be super super badass. So like I just started a
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Speaker 1: D and D campaign and I'm playing a rogue and
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Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I don't remember how to be a rogue.
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Speaker 1: And if I can't even remember how to tabletop a rogue,
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Speaker 1: I certainly couldn't be one in real life, so none
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Speaker 1: of the sneaky stuff. Um, I'm not very graceful, so
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Speaker 1: none of like the dextrous stuff. And I get really
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Speaker 1: anxious about being a lookout because I'm like, do I
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Speaker 1: do I leave? Do I tell you? What? Do I
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Speaker 1: tell you? When? Do I tell you? I should stop
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Speaker 1: looking away from my microphone when I'm talking. But so like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: the pack meal seems like the least stressful heist, like
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Speaker 1: carry all the gear I had you Peggs demolitions. I thought, sure,
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Speaker 1: surely you were going to go demo. That is a
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Speaker 1: that is a good option. I would not mind that.
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Speaker 1: I'd probably injure myself. I once almost cut off my
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Speaker 1: thumb trying to open a box with scissors. So yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's probably not the best resume for going into high explosives.
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Speaker 1: Probably not. What about you? I think I'd be a
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Speaker 1: like a social engineer, like the kind of person who
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Speaker 1: greases the wheels and distracts people and talks your way
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Speaker 1: past stuff. So like the yeah kind of the face,
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Speaker 1: but not necessarily the face, like like Matt Damon was
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Speaker 1: kind of that, Like he was also the pickpocket in
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Speaker 1: in Oceans eleven, but he was he was sort of
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Speaker 1: a social engineer type too. Um, but yeah, that that like,
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Speaker 1: it's it's a very big part of hacking. Like a
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Speaker 1: lot of people think of hacking as sitting down the
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Speaker 1: computer and type of type of type and you get in.
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Speaker 1: But a lot about hacking typically is figuring out how
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Speaker 1: to trick people into giving you access to systems, because
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Speaker 1: that's way easier than forcing your way through uh a
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Speaker 1: technical system. So that's kind of what I think my
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Speaker 1: gig would be. I think you'd be exceptional at that.
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Speaker 1: So I get by, I mean I would get by
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Speaker 1: you would Wait. Now let's move on into the news stories,
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Speaker 1: and our first one is one that we thought of
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Speaker 1: because of our dear mutual friend Shay. Hi Sha, I
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Speaker 1: know you listened to the show and this was when
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Speaker 1: that aerial put down and included your name in it
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Speaker 1: because you know your favorite film, Shay, The Exorcist. There's
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Speaker 1: getting a sequel trilogy, trilogy. Shay Jonathan was so excited
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Speaker 1: he could barely make that sentence. Yeah, words, words failed me.
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Speaker 1: I was possessed by an incoherent spirit. So, for those
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Speaker 1: who don't know, our friend Shay has a thing about
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Speaker 1: demonic possession movies and she really did not like the Exorcist.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, we going it is it is, And to
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Speaker 1: be fair, like, have you seen like all three of
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Speaker 1: the original Exorcist movies. I've seen the first one and
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Speaker 1: I probably would have to piece it together because I
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Speaker 1: covered my eyes for a good bit of it. The
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Speaker 1: first one is the masterpiece, the second one is almost unwatchable,
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Speaker 1: and the third one is a very different movie. But
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Speaker 1: I really love it. I love I mean genuinely, not ironically.
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's a so bad it's good movie.
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Speaker 1: I think it's a legit a great movie. It's more
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Speaker 1: like a thriller than a horror movie in some ways.
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Speaker 1: Um phenomenal, phenomenal, like like, there's some truly scary moments
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Speaker 1: in it. But the interesting thing is that leaves that
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Speaker 1: mostly up to your imagination, so it's not like you're
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Speaker 1: seeing gruesome things play out on screen. You're aware of
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Speaker 1: what is happening, and your imagination is spilling in the gaps,
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Speaker 1: and that's what makes it super creepy. Right. Anyway, great movie,
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Speaker 1: and now we're going to get a sequel trilogy. And
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Speaker 1: Ellen Burson, who was in the original Exorcist, she's the
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Speaker 1: mom is coming back to play that same character in
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Speaker 1: at least the first movie of that new trilogy. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Also Leslie Odom Jr. Is going to be in it,
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Speaker 1: which is awesome. He's a great actor, very talented. Uh,
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Speaker 1: it's interesting to me. The article on Variety that will
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Speaker 1: link to on our website www. Dot Large New drunk
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Speaker 1: colletter dot com mentions that Universal is uh spending four
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Speaker 1: hundred million to buy this trilogy. Uh, and bloom House
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Speaker 1: is working on it. But bloom House it start by
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Speaker 1: doing cheap horror, so a low budget horror that paid
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Speaker 1: off big time. Yeah. So I mean, and they've done
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Speaker 1: a lot, and it's progressively grown and they've done from
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Speaker 1: what I understand, you don't watch a lot of horror.
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Speaker 1: They've done a good job with it. So I'm interested
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Speaker 1: to see how this goes. I would say that about
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Speaker 1: half of what Blumhouse does in horror is really interesting,
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Speaker 1: and about half of it is like, sure, we got
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Speaker 1: the opportunity to do this, why not even? But I
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Speaker 1: mean it's also keeping in mind the Blomhouse has done
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Speaker 1: some some projects with I heart like there there are
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Speaker 1: some podcasts in that realm too. But yeah, I'm excited
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Speaker 1: to learn more about this. Uh. From what we understand,
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Speaker 1: Leslie Alum Jr. Is playing a character whose daughter or
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Speaker 1: whose child, I don't know if it's daughter, but his
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Speaker 1: child has been possessed, and so he seeks out Ellen's
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Speaker 1: character to get help because of course, you know Reagan
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Speaker 1: the daughter in the original Exorcist movie was was her
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Speaker 1: daughter in that film. And and I guess what we're
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Speaker 1: going to learn is that Leslie Jr. Was in the
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Speaker 1: room where it happens, when the possession takes place. I
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Speaker 1: mean I had the Troy Hamilton's reference in sure, sure, no,
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Speaker 1: it's it's fine. It's not a day if you don't
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Speaker 1: hear at least one Hamilton's reference. Uh. So I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: harken back to something we talked about a long time
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Speaker 1: ago last week and whether if it does and whether
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Speaker 1: we would get any subsequent June media after the Dune movie.
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Speaker 1: And guess what we are. But it's it's weird because
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Speaker 1: it's not a sequel. It's not like we're getting one
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Speaker 1: of the later Dune books. We're getting a prequel that
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Speaker 1: could be loosely based on a kind of non Cannon
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Speaker 1: Don novel. Yes, it's called Done the sisterhood and it
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Speaker 1: is all about the Benny Jessert. Yeah, that's the order
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Speaker 1: of women who are sort of the matriarchs of the
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Speaker 1: society of the Done universe, and they have sort of
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Speaker 1: mystical powers. They're incredibly powerful women who intimidate the heck
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Speaker 1: out of everybody they encounter for good reason. Mm hmm.
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Speaker 1: And we don't have a whole lot other other about
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Speaker 1: that show. Now I've caught your not being able to
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Speaker 1: make sentences, Jonathan, They don't, it is. We don't have
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Speaker 1: a lot of details on the show other than h
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Speaker 1: They have replaced replaced one of the screenwriters, John's but
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Speaker 1: spots can't his name with in a demo John So yeah.
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Speaker 1: So So a show we didn't know about until recently
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Speaker 1: has replaced a writer we didn't know was writing on
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Speaker 1: it with another writer is kind of the gist of that.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, this will be like I have high hopes
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Speaker 1: for Dune. The trailer looked really interesting to me, especially
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Speaker 1: since it didn't really give the viewer much information about
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Speaker 1: what the story of Done is all about, Like it
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Speaker 1: kind of touches on it, but barely. Um, so you know,
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Speaker 1: if you know, then you'll know. But if you don't
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Speaker 1: know right right, I'm just thinking, like, if I had
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Speaker 1: not read Dune, would I understand anything about what I
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Speaker 1: saw in that trailer? And the answer is probably not.
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Speaker 1: But it looks cool, so yeah, I'm I'm all for it. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Something else that we don't know a lot about that,
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Speaker 1: but we're going to talk about anyhow is that Lord
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Speaker 1: of the Rings television show that we've mentioned a couple
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Speaker 1: of times, be as we finally got a first look
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Speaker 1: and the internet blew up at this first look and
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Speaker 1: it's pretty, but you really don't learn anything from it
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Speaker 1: other than the fact that it's pretty. Yeah, it's by
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Speaker 1: first look we're talking about, and a single still image
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Speaker 1: and it shows a figure with a white cloak standing, uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, with they're back to you, the viewer, and
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Speaker 1: in front of them is a white city and they're
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Speaker 1: gleaming trees way off in the distance. And this is
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Speaker 1: also like Sister who of done this? This is a
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Speaker 1: prequel series for Lord of the Rings. This happens thousands
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Speaker 1: of years before the events of Lord of the Rings,
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Speaker 1: and so this is like Si Marillian Territory pretty much.
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Speaker 1: And uh, we know that the show is going to
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Speaker 1: come out in September of two, and we know that
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Speaker 1: it's going to be ultra expensive. They're going to have
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Speaker 1: a boxing match between them and the Last of Us
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Speaker 1: to figure out who's the most expensive TV show. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: I don't know why you want those bragging rights, but
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Speaker 1: that seems to be a thing. Yeah, you know. I
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Speaker 1: I like the world that The Lord of the Rings
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Speaker 1: and the Hobbit is is set around, but the Simarillion
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Speaker 1: is a dryer read. So I hope this is a
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Speaker 1: better watch than it was a read. That's a kind
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Speaker 1: way place. Well, Summer Relian is really it's a collection
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Speaker 1: of stories and poems that lays out the earliest history
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Speaker 1: of Middle Earth. And honestly, like like, I assume this
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Speaker 1: is taking place in the First Age, but if it's
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Speaker 1: taking place in the Second Age, well then there's that's
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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that just doesn't even get covered
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Speaker 1: in the in the Summer Rellian. But uh, we're gonna
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Speaker 1: now segue over to talk about one last thing before
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Speaker 1: we we in this section, and it's something I'm super
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Speaker 1: excited about. We now know it opens in spring of
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Speaker 1: next year, and that is the Star Wars Wars Galactic
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Speaker 1: Cruiser Hotel at Walt Disney World. Yes, the spend an
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Speaker 1: entire month's worth of your salary to go for their hotel. Yeah. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: they haven't announced, by the way, they haven't actually announced
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Speaker 1: the prices. But that's probably a decent guest because my
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Speaker 1: guess is that it's going to be similar to what
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Speaker 1: you would have to spend for a cruise, because that's
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Speaker 1: kind of how they're laying it out, like it is
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Speaker 1: a cruise and that you are cruising through space. Your
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Speaker 1: meals are all included with the fee, which is just
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Speaker 1: like a cruise or most cruises, and you even have
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Speaker 1: a short excursion because you end up going to Galaxy's
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Speaker 1: Edge over at Hollywood Studios. But they just referred to
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Speaker 1: it as Batu. You're going to Batu, and I guess
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Speaker 1: they're gonna find a way of getting you in there
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Speaker 1: where your exposure to the real world is kept too,
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Speaker 1: you know, kind of as as much of a minimum
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Speaker 1: as they can manage so that they can preserve the
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Speaker 1: storytelling experience. I think they have sneaky, sneaky shuttles, uh
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Speaker 1: that will make it look like you're in a star shuttle,
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Speaker 1: which is Disney. They can do that. Um. I so
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Speaker 1: here's the thing, because I lap and this is basically
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Speaker 1: just a giant corporate lap right in a galaxy that
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Speaker 1: I would like to larpen. I I do want to
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Speaker 1: go there, It's it's very expensive, so I don't know
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Speaker 1: if I'll be able to justify the expense. Last I heard,
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Speaker 1: they were saying it was going to be like a
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Speaker 1: couple thousand for a tonight excursion. Well, and that's and
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Speaker 1: that's what Like, this is set where it's not like
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Speaker 1: you book a week to stay at the hotel. It
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Speaker 1: is a to night to day tonight experience. So it's
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Speaker 1: kind of like again kind of like a cruise and
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Speaker 1: that you have a specific limited amount of time that
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Speaker 1: you're staying there. It's not like, oh, we are going
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Speaker 1: five days at Walt Disney World, so we just went
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Speaker 1: to Tom booked a whom at the Galactic Cruiser. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean you can you can just chill out in
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Speaker 1: your track suit and your if you want, but you
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Speaker 1: can also dress up in costume, which is different from
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Speaker 1: the Disney parks. And Disney parks they don't really let
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Speaker 1: you do that. Um. But the thing is, so I've learned, right,
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Speaker 1: and and they're saying this is a giant hotel, so
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Speaker 1: presumably there's going to be a ton of people staying
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Speaker 1: there at any given two days span. So, like, the
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Speaker 1: things I'm curious about are like, is it could are
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Speaker 1: you going to have overlapping two days spans? What is
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Speaker 1: the limit on people? Do you have like a very
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Speaker 1: specific time you have to check in? Because in LARPing, Uh,
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of crowd control that you have to do.
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Speaker 1: You can't bring fifty people on a secret, covert, little mission,
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Speaker 1: you know, little module that you've set up, because only
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Speaker 1: four people will get interact with it and the rest
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Speaker 1: of the people will just have to stand there and
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Speaker 1: stare and that's not a lot of fun. So I
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Speaker 1: wonder how they're going to allow each and every guest
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Speaker 1: who's in there to have a personal experience with a
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Speaker 1: module that they've set up in any sort of meaningful
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Speaker 1: way and still get the numbers that I expect they're
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Speaker 1: going to be pulling through their doors. Yeah. I don't
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Speaker 1: know that either. I mean, it's hard to say what
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Speaker 1: the capacity is going to be. They haven't really taught
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Speaker 1: about that, but they did mention that there were a
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Speaker 1: lot of challenges. But their job is to make those
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Speaker 1: challenges disappear, so that as a as a guest, you
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Speaker 1: are unaware that those even exist. Right, that you have
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Speaker 1: a seamless experience. And apparently there are multiple different types
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Speaker 1: of experiences you can have. You can kind of be
15:39
Speaker 1: pretend to be a Jedi, you could pretend to be
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Speaker 1: like a smuggler. There's a lot of different opportunities you
15:44
Speaker 1: can apparently, you know, maybe help the First Order, though
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Speaker 1: I would really recommend against doing that. We've got enough
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Speaker 1: First Order stuff in the world already. So but but
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Speaker 1: I think that those are really cool ideas And was
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Speaker 1: really funny to me is that I'm a pretty big
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Speaker 1: Star Wars fan, but it's my wife who really wants
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Speaker 1: to go and do this, which really surprised me. Really,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna can see her wanting to do it. It's
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Speaker 1: a way to get the park experience without having to
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Speaker 1: necessarily wake up early to do it. Well, that's also true,
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Speaker 1: is that part of this does involve going to the
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Speaker 1: Galaxy's Edge park and getting to ride those rides. And
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Speaker 1: presumably if you're staying at the Galactic Cruiser, you probably
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Speaker 1: have your own little entrance to some of these things
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Speaker 1: that will have you bypass waiting three hours in line
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Speaker 1: to do it. Yeah. Also, I will say from the
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Speaker 1: one time I went to Galaxy's Edge, which was lovely,
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Speaker 1: the food was really good, uh, and I expect that
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Speaker 1: in this hotel it will be even better. So I
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Speaker 1: would want to go simply to see how they imagineer
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Speaker 1: the food alone. Yeah, the pictures I've seen are I
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Speaker 1: mean out of this world, but like very showy, right,
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Speaker 1: it's very much on the show. So yeah, we're very
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Speaker 1: eager to learn more about it, especially like how much
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Speaker 1: is this going to set you back? But again, it's
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Speaker 1: not scheduled to open until spring of next year, so
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Speaker 1: I'm guessing that they're going to be working out a
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Speaker 1: lot more of the details and figuring that kind of
17:14
Speaker 1: stuff out, kind of figuring out what the market will bear. Also,
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Speaker 1: the pandemic obviously is going to play a part in that. Like,
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Speaker 1: I don't know that I'll want to go right away
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Speaker 1: until things calmed down, but I'm very eager to see
17:28
Speaker 1: how that shakes out me too. Well. Something else that
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Speaker 1: I was super eager about was he Man, and that's
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Speaker 1: why I watched all the way through it this past weekend.
17:39
Speaker 1: I mean all five episodes it's It was a huge
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Speaker 1: time sinc. But we touched on it a little bit
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Speaker 1: last weekend. We want to dive a little bit more
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Speaker 1: into our thoughts on the show after this quick break, Okay, Ariel,
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Speaker 1: before we discuss the new show. Did you ever watch
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Speaker 1: like Classic hey Man the original cartoon? I did. I
18:12
Speaker 1: watched Classic hey Man. I didn't watch the two thousand
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Speaker 1: and three reboot, but I heard it was two thousand three.
18:18
Speaker 1: I think it's two thousands. There was an early two
18:20
Speaker 1: thousands reboot of he Man that actually has a very
18:23
Speaker 1: similar art style to this new one, so I think
18:25
Speaker 1: it inspired it a lot um But I watched the original.
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Speaker 1: I did not watch, however, He Man in Space. After
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Speaker 1: we finished the series this weekend, my husband showed me
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Speaker 1: the trailer for that and it was upsettingly bad. I
18:40
Speaker 1: didn't even know that was a thing. I did watch
18:42
Speaker 1: the original he Man. I had way too many Heman
18:48
Speaker 1: action figures as a kid, like tons of them, including
18:51
Speaker 1: ones that don't think ever actually made an appearance in
18:54
Speaker 1: the original cartoon, but we're marketed specifically as toys. They
18:59
Speaker 1: just never really showed up as cartoon characters. I do
19:03
Speaker 1: have Castle attorneya staring at me through my closet right now.
19:07
Speaker 1: I had Attorney, and I also had Snake Mountain, and
19:09
Speaker 1: I also had a swamp play set. I don't remember
19:14
Speaker 1: what the deal was with that, but um, yeah, like
19:18
Speaker 1: I was big into it as a kid. So what
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Speaker 1: were your thoughts about the new one? The one that
19:23
Speaker 1: got like severely reviewed bombed by a lot of fanboys
19:27
Speaker 1: out there. So these are my thoughts. I can't guarantee
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Speaker 1: no spoilers, so if you're really worried about spoilers for
19:33
Speaker 1: this show, you might want to skip ahead. Um. So
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Speaker 1: I thought that one. I really enjoyed the story. It
19:44
Speaker 1: kept me on my toes and it kept me surprised
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Speaker 1: at all points. Um, the beginning where it focused on
19:51
Speaker 1: Tila felt a little bit in kongruous for me, just
19:55
Speaker 1: because I hadn't built up to that point. But then again,
19:58
Speaker 1: you know, if you if you since it's a continuation,
20:01
Speaker 1: if you go back to the original story of Tila
20:05
Speaker 1: being kind of a badass in the original Human, then
20:08
Speaker 1: it stands to reason that it starts off where it does. Um. Honestly,
20:12
Speaker 1: the biggest complaint that I had about it was was
20:16
Speaker 1: not that there wasn't a lot of Heman or Skeletor,
20:19
Speaker 1: because there was honestly more he Mean in Skeletor than
20:21
Speaker 1: I anticipated in in the five episodes. It was that
20:26
Speaker 1: sometimes when they really wanted to make a point apparent,
20:29
Speaker 1: they'd keep hitting on it and then like the dialogue
20:31
Speaker 1: was a little bit cheesy around it, and then they'd
20:33
Speaker 1: hit on it again, and you're like, Okay, I get
20:36
Speaker 1: the point. You're special. Yeah, no, I hear you. Yeah,
20:41
Speaker 1: I agree. I think my issues are the same as yours. Um.
20:46
Speaker 1: I mean, my expectations were really low too, because while
20:50
Speaker 1: I did love he Mean as a kid, as an
20:52
Speaker 1: adult I recognize it was a cartoon designed to sell toys.
20:56
Speaker 1: It was a very thinly old commercial. It really wasn't
21:02
Speaker 1: there to tell any decent stories, and that this version
21:06
Speaker 1: is meant to appeal to the adults who watched it
21:10
Speaker 1: as kids. So there's only so much you can do
21:14
Speaker 1: before you change what it even feels like, right Like
21:18
Speaker 1: if you went Quentin Tarantino with he Man, then you're like, well,
21:24
Speaker 1: all these characters look like the characters from he Man,
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Speaker 1: but no one's acting like any of the characters from Heman.
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Speaker 1: And granted they did make some big change, like Orco
21:33
Speaker 1: is a very different character in in this one then
21:36
Speaker 1: he was in the original series. But you know, it's
21:40
Speaker 1: one of those things where you do have these parameters
21:42
Speaker 1: you have to work in and if you step outside
21:44
Speaker 1: of them, suddenly it's no longer the thing you were
21:46
Speaker 1: supposed to be making. Mm hmm uh. But part of
21:51
Speaker 1: it was just a lot of fun to watch from
21:54
Speaker 1: a a casting side standpoint as well, in the different
21:57
Speaker 1: people that they they cast in the roles. Tela is
22:01
Speaker 1: Sarah Michelle Geller, who's Buffy from Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
22:05
Speaker 1: Moss Man was Alan Oppenheimer, who was the original voice
22:09
Speaker 1: of Skeletor and like a bazillion other characters on he Man,
22:12
Speaker 1: So I like that they were able to do that
22:14
Speaker 1: in Orco even though he was different, I still absolutely
22:17
Speaker 1: adored him. Was voiced by the guy who played Arthur
22:20
Speaker 1: in the New Take series, Griffins. Something something interesting well,
22:25
Speaker 1: And And the reason why I wanted to bring this
22:28
Speaker 1: up is that, obviously it plays into that fan response
22:31
Speaker 1: where there were a lot of people who were upset
22:35
Speaker 1: at the direction of the show, and they made that
22:39
Speaker 1: extremely well known by review bombing, Like it was a
22:43
Speaker 1: thing where the review, the scores, the Rotten Tomato scores.
22:47
Speaker 1: When we were reported on this, the critical score was
22:50
Speaker 1: in the nine percentile and the audience score was in
22:53
Speaker 1: the thirty percentile. And it really was just indicative of
22:57
Speaker 1: all these fans and like, if you search on YouTube
23:01
Speaker 1: for reactions to this, you'll see some of the most
23:04
Speaker 1: toxic videos you've ever seen, ripping this show to shreds.
23:09
Speaker 1: And I get the idea of having your expectations subverted,
23:12
Speaker 1: where you thought you're gonna be watching a he Man
23:14
Speaker 1: cartoon and it's not. It's called Masters of the Universe,
23:17
Speaker 1: so that you can argue, well, it's really about this
23:20
Speaker 1: collection of characters, not just one. Um, but you can
23:24
Speaker 1: make that argument. But but even so, the fifth episode
23:27
Speaker 1: kind of makes it clear that there's a lot more
23:30
Speaker 1: story to tell and you just have to be patient
23:34
Speaker 1: to get to it. Yeah, so I will admit that
23:40
Speaker 1: at times, so big big spoiler. Most of the time
23:45
Speaker 1: that you see he Man, he's actually Prince Adam in
23:47
Speaker 1: this show, Um, and Prince Adams a little bit of
23:50
Speaker 1: a doof you know, And I had to remember that that,
23:53
Speaker 1: you know, that's that's how he was in the original cartoon.
23:56
Speaker 1: But like the way that he plays in this story
24:01
Speaker 1: as Prince Adam is very powerful, and I think it's
24:03
Speaker 1: it's it's actually a really great message to like friendship
24:07
Speaker 1: and where you find your worth as a person. So
24:10
Speaker 1: I actually quite liked it. I thought they were a
24:12
Speaker 1: little clunky and uh and voicing, they're a little ham
24:18
Speaker 1: fisted that that's a that's a good one, but I
24:20
Speaker 1: liked the concept behind it quite a bit. Yeah. Well,
24:24
Speaker 1: and and this kind of also leads into a discussion
24:27
Speaker 1: that I wanted to have a little bit of one.
24:29
Speaker 1: And this is a topic that's so big that it
24:31
Speaker 1: could easily take a full hour to really dive into.
24:35
Speaker 1: But it's this odd aspect of fandom that I frequently
24:41
Speaker 1: find off putting. Like I've been around fandom since I
24:45
Speaker 1: was a small child. I'm forty six now. I've been
24:49
Speaker 1: in various fandoms for more than forty years at this point.
24:52
Speaker 1: Because my parents write science fiction and fantasy, I've been
24:55
Speaker 1: going to convention since I was a little kid. I've
24:58
Speaker 1: been around are creators of those genres as well as
25:03
Speaker 1: other fans of those genres. So I've been part of
25:06
Speaker 1: the fandom experience for most of my life. Almost all
25:10
Speaker 1: of my life, and the good parts are great, like
25:13
Speaker 1: getting together with people and celebrating something you love. There
25:16
Speaker 1: is something magical about that. It felt like back in
25:20
Speaker 1: the pre Internet days, things like conventions were that was
25:23
Speaker 1: how you did it right because you might not have
25:25
Speaker 1: anyone else in your area who even watches say like
25:29
Speaker 1: Star Trek or Doctor Who. But you go to a
25:31
Speaker 1: convention and how everybody knows what you're talking about and
25:34
Speaker 1: you get all excited and you have these great conversations,
25:37
Speaker 1: you make friends like it was a really special thing.
25:40
Speaker 1: But on the flip side, fans can get a sense
25:44
Speaker 1: of ownership about things that they love, and then if
25:49
Speaker 1: something doesn't go the way they wanted it to go,
25:53
Speaker 1: they can turn super vicious. And we see this in
25:57
Speaker 1: lots of aspects of fandom, from gate keeping like Cosblay.
26:01
Speaker 1: Gatekeepers are some of the worst, um yeah, where they're like,
26:05
Speaker 1: oh no, you can't be so and so because of
26:07
Speaker 1: such and such reason, and like it's just that's just nasty,
26:12
Speaker 1: as as my can be an alligator lokey if you want, Yeah, totally,
26:18
Speaker 1: did you see like so. LaVar Burton's daughter Mika Burton,
26:20
Speaker 1: who is a phenomenal cause player, went Disney bounding, and
26:24
Speaker 1: her Disney bounding was a black dress and a low
26:27
Speaker 1: key head dress, and she said that it was the
26:29
Speaker 1: best experience because now that there are low key variants
26:32
Speaker 1: like now, they're essentially variants of every Marvel thing that
26:36
Speaker 1: is open license for anyone to cause play as anybody,
26:40
Speaker 1: which I think is fantastic. But um, but yeah, this
26:45
Speaker 1: is one of those things about fandom that I find.
26:49
Speaker 1: It doesn't sit well with me, and it makes me
26:51
Speaker 1: less less willing to engage in fandom because I recognize
26:57
Speaker 1: these sorts of behaviors as being at best unwelcoming and
27:02
Speaker 1: at worst like outright toxic. I agree. It's part of
27:06
Speaker 1: the reason why I think we get so much media
27:08
Speaker 1: that repeats itself instead of news stories or or things
27:14
Speaker 1: like that, or continuations like a continuation of hey Man,
27:16
Speaker 1: you just get a bunch of reboots instead that don't
27:20
Speaker 1: actually reimagine much because creators are afraid of getting panned.
27:24
Speaker 1: They'd rather have the surefire win. And I wish people
27:27
Speaker 1: would have a bit more of an open mind. That's
27:29
Speaker 1: an excellent point, aial, because that's one of the other
27:32
Speaker 1: things we observe, right, is that pleasing the fan base
27:36
Speaker 1: becomes incredibly difficult because the fans want more of whatever
27:41
Speaker 1: it was they loved. If you make it too much
27:45
Speaker 1: like the thing they loved, then they'll just say, well,
27:47
Speaker 1: this is just the same thing, and they get upset
27:50
Speaker 1: at you. If you change too many things, they say,
27:53
Speaker 1: this isn't what I loved anymore, and they get upset
27:55
Speaker 1: at you. So it's really hard to walk that line.
27:59
Speaker 1: It's one of the reasons why when I hear about
28:01
Speaker 1: like a sequel to something, even if it's something that's
28:05
Speaker 1: been you know, over for for decades, like The Exorcist
28:10
Speaker 1: or like Ghostbusters, because two thousand and sixteen never happened.
28:14
Speaker 1: Then I didn't hate it. It was just scripted comedy
28:19
Speaker 1: as opposed to improvised, and therefore it didn't feel as
28:21
Speaker 1: genuine or as funny. But I didn't hate it. I
28:27
Speaker 1: just felt like it was just not the It just
28:29
Speaker 1: didn't wasn't the right humor for me. Not saying it
28:32
Speaker 1: was bad, It was not the right humor for me.
28:34
Speaker 1: That's more on me, not on the movie anyway. Yeah, like, um,
28:39
Speaker 1: it just it means that you're painted into a corner, right,
28:42
Speaker 1: Like It's why I would tend to prefer something new,
28:46
Speaker 1: which obviously is a risk because you don't know if
28:49
Speaker 1: it's ever going to perform. Well, Rather than see someone
28:52
Speaker 1: try and reinvent the same thing for the forty time
28:55
Speaker 1: and potentially alienate the fan base that made that thing
29:00
Speaker 1: ppular in the first place, I am so glad I
29:03
Speaker 1: don't have to make those decisions that I'm not the
29:05
Speaker 1: one making these kinds of films or series. But um yeah,
29:10
Speaker 1: it's tough. Like again, it's the That's one of the
29:14
Speaker 1: negatives about the fandom base. It's that they are incredibly
29:18
Speaker 1: fickle and if you displease them, they are not shy
29:23
Speaker 1: at all about voicing their displeasure, not at all. Where
29:26
Speaker 1: do you follow on things like, uh, I get a
29:29
Speaker 1: Christie or Poiro or Knives out where it's not the
29:33
Speaker 1: same story but it's the same universe. Well, I mean see,
29:38
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily object to it, like I actually really
29:41
Speaker 1: like reimaginings when I think there also is an element
29:45
Speaker 1: of time at play where if it's long enough, then
29:50
Speaker 1: you might have a cultural awareness of the property, but
29:53
Speaker 1: you might not be as familiar with the original material
29:57
Speaker 1: because while you know of it because their references all
30:01
Speaker 1: around you, you may not have actually seen it. So
30:03
Speaker 1: as an example, like there's some classic films I haven't seen.
30:07
Speaker 1: I still to this day have never seen Casablanca, but
30:10
Speaker 1: I recognized Casablanca references because those quotes are everywhere. They're inescapable. Um.
30:16
Speaker 1: But in those cases, I think there's enough distance for
30:19
Speaker 1: most people that it's kind of a non factor. Uh.
30:22
Speaker 1: And for things that kind of play in and you
30:24
Speaker 1: might think of them as almost like a pastiche or
30:27
Speaker 1: like copying the style of something that came before. If
30:30
Speaker 1: it's done well, I find it, I can find it
30:33
Speaker 1: really entertaining, like Knives Out. Like I still think Knives
30:36
Speaker 1: Out was just a really fun time at the movies.
30:40
Speaker 1: Not that not that I was really surprised, Like I
30:44
Speaker 1: pegged who it was at the very beginning of the
30:46
Speaker 1: movie and I was like, oh, so the person I
30:49
Speaker 1: thought did it did it? Um. But otherwise it was
30:53
Speaker 1: really fun. But you know, I don't know how I
30:54
Speaker 1: feel about the sequel, because is it going to be
30:59
Speaker 1: are they going to lean heavily on the things that
31:00
Speaker 1: the people like in the first one, or is it
31:02
Speaker 1: going to be a completely new mystery? Well, I mean
31:06
Speaker 1: Columbo was around forever, and the thing about Columbo was
31:11
Speaker 1: that like that performance, Peter Fowkes performance really made that
31:15
Speaker 1: show special. So I'm gonna I'm gonna hope that they'd
31:19
Speaker 1: pull a Colombo and we get something similar out of that. Well,
31:23
Speaker 1: when we come back, like obviously, we can talk about
31:26
Speaker 1: this forever. I mean, there are so many different things
31:28
Speaker 1: this touches upon in the world of fandom. And I
31:30
Speaker 1: don't mean to say that all fandom is bad, but
31:32
Speaker 1: rather fandom frequently comes with it some baggage that that
31:39
Speaker 1: I find unsettling. But when we come back, we're gonna
31:43
Speaker 1: we're gonna really unsettle things by mashing up two things
31:46
Speaker 1: that never ever should come in contact with one another.
32:05
Speaker 1: All right, Ariel, let's talk about the little news stories
32:09
Speaker 1: and grief that inspired the mashup we're gonna do today.
32:13
Speaker 1: One is that over this past week, we got a
32:16
Speaker 1: new trailer for the new Venom movie, the Venom Carnage Film. Uh,
32:23
Speaker 1: why do you think of the trailer? I liked the
32:25
Speaker 1: first Carnage trailer. I like the second one too. It
32:28
Speaker 1: makes me excited to watch it, which is saying something
32:31
Speaker 1: because I only very recently watched the first Venom. I
32:35
Speaker 1: thought I was gonna hate it. I thought it was
32:36
Speaker 1: not gonna be a good movie, and I absolutely loved it.
32:39
Speaker 1: Um the second one looks really good. It looks darker
32:41
Speaker 1: than the first. Um, well, maybe a little bit more
32:45
Speaker 1: gory than the first. But um man, what Haroldson makes
32:50
Speaker 1: a really good serial killer. He's had some practice, he's
32:54
Speaker 1: played it before. Yeah, yeah, that's true. That's true. I
32:57
Speaker 1: was just like getting natural born killer vibes as I
32:59
Speaker 1: was watching it. But that's a reference to throwback I
33:05
Speaker 1: don't care about. But I'm like, I wish I could.
33:07
Speaker 1: I wish I could match your enthusiasm, but I could
33:10
Speaker 1: take it or leave it. I watched and I was like,
33:12
Speaker 1: I feel nothing. Uh so, maybe I'm the next sociopathic
33:16
Speaker 1: killer in the Venom universe. Maybe you've just got a
33:18
Speaker 1: symbiote in you. Could be, could be. And the other
33:21
Speaker 1: element that we are going to use in our mash
33:23
Speaker 1: up is Buffy the Vampire Slayer because we recently learned
33:27
Speaker 1: there's going to be a young adult series, a trilogy
33:30
Speaker 1: of novels that take place many years after the events
33:36
Speaker 1: of the TV series Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Yes, it's
33:40
Speaker 1: going to be a Willow who's Buffy's good friend, and
33:43
Speaker 1: which Willow's daughter who becomes a slayer Frankie. Yeah, she's
33:49
Speaker 1: she's a witch and a slayer at the same time,
33:51
Speaker 1: so watch out. Yeah. Disney is excited to dive into
33:56
Speaker 1: their giant catalog of other properties they have acquired, and
34:00
Speaker 1: they're doing this one via book form, so we'll see
34:04
Speaker 1: how right, So we're going to do a mash up
34:07
Speaker 1: of Buffy the vampires Layer and Venom. And in case
34:10
Speaker 1: you're not familiar with either of these things, here's a
34:13
Speaker 1: quick summary. Venom is an alien symbiote, an alien life
34:19
Speaker 1: form that needs to have a host, thus the symbiotic relationship. Uh.
34:26
Speaker 1: And in the Marvel comics he's related to or he's
34:30
Speaker 1: associated with, Spider Man, but in the movie they remove
34:33
Speaker 1: that association and he uh inhabits the body of a
34:38
Speaker 1: guy named Eddie Brock who's a journalist, and the Eddie
34:42
Speaker 1: Brock is a is just a normal guy, but he
34:44
Speaker 1: gets essentially superpowers with the symbiote. That also is uh
34:49
Speaker 1: kind of a raging psycho. And then Buffy the vampires
34:53
Speaker 1: Layer is a series about a young woman named Buffy
34:57
Speaker 1: who inherits the power hours of vampire slayers, which are uh,
35:03
Speaker 1: kind of this magical power that passes through women throughout history.
35:08
Speaker 1: And it's her job to kill bad demons and vampires
35:12
Speaker 1: and stuff. And she's got friends like Xander and Willow,
35:15
Speaker 1: and she's got a watcher named Giles, and they try
35:19
Speaker 1: to fight evil and that's kind of love with a
35:22
Speaker 1: lot of vampires. She does. She has a thing for vampires,
35:26
Speaker 1: you know, the things that she's supposed to be slaying,
35:28
Speaker 1: she does. She does have a little little thing for them,
35:32
Speaker 1: all right. So with that in mind, we now have
35:35
Speaker 1: it's set up. Would you like to go first? Or
35:37
Speaker 1: shall I? Um, do you have a preference? I'll go first.
35:42
Speaker 1: Mine's not Mine's not funny, funny, Mine is Mine feels
35:48
Speaker 1: like a Buffy the Vampire Slayer episode. Well, I'm excited
35:51
Speaker 1: about it. So this is called you Got Venom on
35:55
Speaker 1: My Buffy. Xander Harris has a problem. His job as
35:59
Speaker 1: a construct worker and carpenter has hit a bit of
36:02
Speaker 1: a slow streak, with seemingly fewer folks eager to build
36:05
Speaker 1: upon a hell mouth, and so in order to make
36:08
Speaker 1: ends meet, he answers an ad from a company called
36:11
Speaker 1: the Life Corporation. He agrees to take part in some
36:14
Speaker 1: secretive clinical trials in return for some cash boom opening credits.
36:20
Speaker 1: What Xander doesn't know is that the Life Corporation has
36:23
Speaker 1: a few samples of a symbiotic life form found after
36:26
Speaker 1: a Life Corporation space probe passed through a comet. These
36:30
Speaker 1: symbiotes need a host, and Xander unknowingly becomes one of them. Meanwhile,
36:35
Speaker 1: back at the Scooby Gang Clubhouse a k a. Rupert
36:38
Speaker 1: Giles's apartment, Buffy, Willow, and Giles are hanging out and
36:43
Speaker 1: Buffy is enjoying some downtime because it's actually been pretty
36:46
Speaker 1: quiet in Sunnydale, California lately. Giles, of course, is nervous
36:51
Speaker 1: assuming that the next catastrophe is right around the corner,
36:53
Speaker 1: and Willow is adorably awkward and dorky. The scene is
36:57
Speaker 1: cute and all, but it doesn't, you know, really moves
37:00
Speaker 1: along very much. Then we cut to that night when
37:03
Speaker 1: Xander is back home. He's trying to get some sleep,
37:05
Speaker 1: but he feels restless, and he's tossing and he's turning
37:08
Speaker 1: a bit, and then he yelps in pain. He sits
37:10
Speaker 1: up quickly, turns on a light and he sees that
37:12
Speaker 1: for a moment he has this weird black substance all
37:16
Speaker 1: over his leg that does them disappears. We cut outside
37:20
Speaker 1: of Xander's house to an unmarked van where a pair
37:22
Speaker 1: of somewhat sinister men wearing Life Corporation jackets keeps Xander's
37:28
Speaker 1: house under observation. Then we go to commercial. When we're back,
37:32
Speaker 1: it's daytime and Xander is heading to meet up with
37:34
Speaker 1: Buffy and Willow to go see a movie. Let's say
37:37
Speaker 1: it's American Psycho because that film's release lines up with
37:40
Speaker 1: the season in which Xander is a construction worker, so
37:42
Speaker 1: why not. But on his way, he has to slam
37:45
Speaker 1: on the brakes in his car because this guy just
37:47
Speaker 1: runs right out in front of him. And then the
37:49
Speaker 1: guy then fumbles with a handgun and points it at
37:52
Speaker 1: Xander through the windshield and demands that Xander get out
37:55
Speaker 1: of the car. So Xander, flipping out, says all right,
37:57
Speaker 1: all right, don't shoot, don't shoot, and he does his
37:59
Speaker 1: best to get all the car. He's obviously panicking. The
38:01
Speaker 1: would be carjacker runs around to the car door and
38:05
Speaker 1: Xander does a bunch of dumb things, like forgetting to
38:07
Speaker 1: unbuckle a seatbelt before trying to get out, and he's
38:09
Speaker 1: actually removing his keys from the car as if you
38:12
Speaker 1: were parking it, and the guy, frustrated, clicks back the
38:15
Speaker 1: hammer of the gun and then it happens. Xander transforms
38:18
Speaker 1: in the blink of an eye into an eight foot tall,
38:20
Speaker 1: hulking dark form, and the guy, freaking out fires his gun,
38:24
Speaker 1: but the bullets seemed to have no effect on this monster,
38:27
Speaker 1: and next thing, you know, the Xander symbiote, whom we'll
38:30
Speaker 1: just go ahead and say it's venom, chomps down on
38:33
Speaker 1: the guy that we don't actually see that happen because
38:35
Speaker 1: this is a TV show in their various restrictions and stuff.
38:38
Speaker 1: The symbiote retreats into Xander, who has left incoherently babbling
38:42
Speaker 1: at what has just happened as he hears police signs,
38:46
Speaker 1: thinking quickly gets back in his car and he waits.
38:49
Speaker 1: The cops show up, clearly in pursuit of the would
38:51
Speaker 1: be carjacker, and they are astounded at what they find,
38:55
Speaker 1: but Xander doesn't have a drop of blood on him,
38:57
Speaker 1: and he does his best to explain he was just
38:59
Speaker 1: driving when this guy I ran in front of his car,
39:01
Speaker 1: and he has no idea what happened next, and hey,
39:04
Speaker 1: this is sunny Dale. People get decapitated alarmingly frequently. There
39:09
Speaker 1: commercial break, We come back and we see Xander meeting
39:12
Speaker 1: up with Willow and Buffy, who are irritated because he
39:14
Speaker 1: didn't make it to the movie in time, and also
39:16
Speaker 1: they say they didn't like the movie very much. But
39:19
Speaker 1: Xander is totally out of it. When he speaks, it's
39:21
Speaker 1: as if he's talking to someone else that only he
39:24
Speaker 1: can hear, and Buffy and Willow find that strange, but
39:27
Speaker 1: not strange enough to actually pursue this further because it's
39:30
Speaker 1: a TV show and we still have some commercials to
39:31
Speaker 1: get through. What follows is Xander learning about the Symbiote,
39:35
Speaker 1: which does call itself Venom, and the fact that the
39:37
Speaker 1: Symbiote is really powerful, but the Symbiote also really wants
39:40
Speaker 1: to bring the rest of its own kind down to
39:42
Speaker 1: Earth to you know, wreak havoc and affect everyone and
39:45
Speaker 1: make it their new home. So Xander feels a little conflicted.
39:48
Speaker 1: On the one hand, superpowers are kind of awesome and
39:51
Speaker 1: now he knows how Buffy feels, but on the other
39:53
Speaker 1: the Symbiot feels at best, really a moral and at
39:57
Speaker 1: worst downright evil, so of course he decides to keep
40:00
Speaker 1: bit a little secret. Xander then starts going on patrols
40:03
Speaker 1: hoped by himself not telling the others, and doing so,
40:06
Speaker 1: he manages to take out some of sunny Dale's minor nasties,
40:09
Speaker 1: like relatively young vampires and such, which both makes him
40:12
Speaker 1: feel more valuable and it satisfies the huge hungry symbiote
40:16
Speaker 1: until one night he doesn't realize he's being watched by
40:20
Speaker 1: a watcher that's Giles. The next day, Giles calls a
40:24
Speaker 1: meeting with the scoops and explains what he saw. Xander,
40:27
Speaker 1: recognizing exactly what Giles is talking about, does his best
40:30
Speaker 1: to derail the conversation or suggests that the monster maybe
40:34
Speaker 1: he's a good guy, but Giles's description pretty much convinces
40:37
Speaker 1: Willow and Buffy that this monster is not good news.
40:41
Speaker 1: Xander decides he needs to lie low, but Venom has
40:44
Speaker 1: other ideas, and then we go to a commercial break.
40:47
Speaker 1: But when we're back, we see Xander walking alone, arguing
40:50
Speaker 1: with himself. Really he's arguing with Venom, but to anyone
40:52
Speaker 1: else it looks like he's just yelling at himself. And
40:54
Speaker 1: then Venom just takes over and starts going on a rampage.
40:59
Speaker 1: It's carnage, not literally, but you know what I mean.
41:03
Speaker 1: We obviously ramp up to a confrontation between Venom and Buffy,
41:07
Speaker 1: who puts up an incredible fight, but it looks like
41:09
Speaker 1: Venom might actually get the best of her. Xander manages
41:12
Speaker 1: to rest control from Venom, though, and prevents the Symbiote
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Speaker 1: from delivering a killing blow. Then he looks at Buffy
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Speaker 1: and says help Buffy. Giles and Willow managed to restrain Xander,
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Speaker 1: and then through a crazy ritual led by Willow, they
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Speaker 1: managed to exorcize the Symbiote and capture it in a
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Speaker 1: glass jar, which Giles stores away for safekeeping. Except we
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Speaker 1: see that a pair of looky lose those two mysterious
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Speaker 1: men from the Life Corporation are observing from Afar, and
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Speaker 1: sitting in a van behind them is Spike with an
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Speaker 1: evil grin on his face. Cut to credits. I love it.
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Speaker 1: That really does feel like a Buffy episode, like shot
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Speaker 1: for shot. Yeah, well, now I've watched a lot of Buffy,
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Speaker 1: every single episode, in fact, probably a few times. Uh
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Speaker 1: So in my Virgin One thing we didn't mention is
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Speaker 1: sometimes Venom is a bad guy, and then sometimes he's
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Speaker 1: an antihero, and so this is this This is a
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Speaker 1: little bit more after when he's become an antihero, kind
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Speaker 1: of similar to the movie, but not in line with
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Speaker 1: their history. Okay, so this is called Vemmy the Vampire Slayer. Uh.
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Speaker 1: It was one of those classic roommates situations. Venom and
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Speaker 1: Eddie Brock had lived together so long every little thing
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Speaker 1: they did got on each other's nerves. Venom would leave
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Speaker 1: chicken bones around for Eddie to step on. Eddie wouldn't
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Speaker 1: let Venom eat people. Venom would leave bits of symbiote
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Speaker 1: all over the toilet seat, and he wouldn't let Venom
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Speaker 1: eat people. Venom would eat people, and Eddie would pout
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Speaker 1: about it, and the list goes on and on. Well,
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Speaker 1: one day Venom and had enough. He decided this situation
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Speaker 1: had to change. So while Eddie was asleep, Venom left
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Speaker 1: to find a new host. He was lurking in some
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Speaker 1: shadows when he came across a brooding dark figure. I
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Speaker 1: guess Venom has a type. Well, he decided to jump
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Speaker 1: into that brooding dark figure, and when he did, he
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Speaker 1: found himself in an internal fight between good and evil. Thankfully,
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Speaker 1: that internal fight was an eternal and soon he had
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Speaker 1: control of a one. Angel Angelo's Liam's something something I
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Speaker 1: don't know. His sister is really confusing and Venom didn't
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Speaker 1: have enough time to sort it out, and Venom felt powerful.
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Speaker 1: He was about to go off and explore this newfound
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Speaker 1: union when a small blonde figure threw her arms around
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Speaker 1: Angel's body and kissed him. I guess Venom's types have types. Well,
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Speaker 1: Venom was intrigued, and so we let Angel take the wheel. No, Buffy,
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Speaker 1: you don't understand. Angel screamed, there's something dark inside of me.
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Speaker 1: You have to go, and Puffy said, yeah, yeah, I've
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Speaker 1: heard that before. If you don't like me, just say so,
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Speaker 1: and she kicked Angel across the room. Well, Venom wouldn't
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Speaker 1: have that. He took over and cartoon him punched Buffy
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Speaker 1: through a wall, then then thought, yea snack time. But
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Speaker 1: the little blond one Buffy got up out of the wall,
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Speaker 1: barely phazed, and began to kick Venom's butt. How could
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Speaker 1: this be? Venom thought she must have a symbiote herself,
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Speaker 1: and he stuck a Venom tendril in her ear Nope,
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Speaker 1: no symbiote, but wow, we could how we if Venom
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Speaker 1: thought he had power in this Angel, Dude, it was
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Speaker 1: double that with this Buffy girl, like a battery of
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Speaker 1: kick buttitude. He jumped shipped to this new host and
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Speaker 1: promptly slayed Angel and then ate him and he was tasty.
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Speaker 1: Then Venom went on a rampage through California looking for
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Speaker 1: more bumpy headed idiots to slay and eat. Buffy wasn't
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Speaker 1: sure what was going on, but this wasn't the normal
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Speaker 1: evil she always encountered, so she let it ride to
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Speaker 1: see its game. And it turns out Venom was really helpful.
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Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't like steaking vampires because he didn't
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Speaker 1: like his steak well done, but he was really effective
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Speaker 1: at keeping her from getting her normal bumped and bruised up.
44:56
Speaker 1: So they slayed a while together, usually killing monsters ocasionally
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Speaker 1: symbiotes in monsters because we're got around about what a
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Speaker 1: fun ride that was. Until one day Buffy looked in
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Speaker 1: the mirror and said, we have to have a talk.
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Speaker 1: Then him popped his head out and said, what's up, buttercup,
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Speaker 1: But he knew Buffy was about to say she loved him.
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Speaker 1: He said, this is a working relationship, touts and popped
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Speaker 1: back inside, and then Buffy pouded. She pouted like Venom
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Speaker 1: had never experienced pouding before. It was unbearable and it
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Speaker 1: made Venom miss home well Eddie and all of his
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Speaker 1: annoying little habits. So while Buffy slept, then him jumped
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Speaker 1: ship once more and went back to Eddie, and before
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Speaker 1: sneaking back into his cozy little corner of Eddie's consciousness,
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Speaker 1: he picked up a couple of chicken bones off the
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Speaker 1: floor and they all lived happily ever after. I love it,
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Speaker 1: Thank you. There was so much, so much Buffy is
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Speaker 1: ms in there, with the kick buttitude and such. YEA.
45:55
Speaker 1: Also just quick shout out to the original Buffy the
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Speaker 1: vampires Layer Phil, just because Paul Rubens in that movie,
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Speaker 1: Like that movie is not necessarily good, but in that
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Speaker 1: movie is My favorite line is from him, whereas you
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Speaker 1: rip my jacket kill him a lot, which I think
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Speaker 1: is just great. It's a great line. Well it is.
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Speaker 1: Buffy had a way of taking like language and and
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Speaker 1: just turning it slightly on its ear in a in
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Speaker 1: a valley sort of a way. Yeah. Well, and the
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Speaker 1: response I often heard about Buffy the Vampire Slayer is
46:32
Speaker 1: it's a show in which teenagers speak in a way
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Speaker 1: that real teenagers never do, but you always kind of
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Speaker 1: wish that they that's how they talked, like they had
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Speaker 1: like these very clever ways, not necessarily like deep references
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Speaker 1: all the time, but they have very clever responses to
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Speaker 1: one another, which is one of the things that made
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Speaker 1: the show really enjoyable. So yeah, I don't know what's
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Speaker 1: up with the Buffy reboot that's supposed to come out.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's still a thing or not.
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Speaker 1: Obviously the pandemic, I'm sure, but like major wrenches in
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Speaker 1: that works. But it's something I wouldn't mind seeing a
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Speaker 1: new take on. Uh. And of course, with the the
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Speaker 1: stuff we've learned about Josh Weeden in the years since,
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Speaker 1: seeing a take on it that is kind of divorced
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Speaker 1: from him would probably be for the best. To um. Yeah,
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