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The Late Debate | 7 October · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Late Welcome to the Late Debase, good Edning, Welcome to
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  Speaker 1: the program. I'm Calebond with Frey Leitch and Joe Hildebrand.
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  Speaker 1: Here's what's coming up tonight. I don't think anyone would
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  Speaker 1: say that being a teacher is an easy job, but
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  Speaker 1: a new study has found that Australian teachers are amongst
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  Speaker 1: the most stressed in the world.
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  Speaker 2: So what's going on.
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  Speaker 1: We'll discuss that soon in the papers. Free public transport
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  Speaker 1: is coming to an Australian city. It's amazing what you
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  Speaker 1: can do when there's a state election coming up. We'll
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  Speaker 1: tell you where and when later in the show. And
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  Speaker 1: can parody go too far? Well, the producers of Paddington
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  Speaker 1: Bear seem to think. So they're suing the over the
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  Speaker 1: depiction of the famous character Paddington that is, as a
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  Speaker 1: coked up podcaster called Pablo esca Bear.
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  Speaker 2: That is later.
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  Speaker 1: But first look, if council bashing was an Olympic sport,
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  Speaker 1: I'd probably be a gold medal winner many times over.
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  Speaker 1: You know that if you are a viewer of the debate.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm here to make a confession tonight exclusive on
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  Speaker 1: the Late Debate. I've had a change of heart.
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  Speaker 3: They're coming to take me away. Haha.
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  Speaker 2: They're coming to take me away ho ye haha to.
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  Speaker 4: The funny farm where late it's.
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  Speaker 2: Beautiful all the time. I know, I know, I know,
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 1: Before you take me away to the funny farm, just
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  Speaker 1: believe me for a minute.
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  Speaker 2: I have found a good council story. I mean it.
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  Speaker 1: I actually love this one because in Cronulla in Sydney,
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  Speaker 1: the local council has responded to the poisoning of trees
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  Speaker 1: by deciding we're going to plant more of them.
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  Speaker 2: Take a look at this.
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  Speaker 5: If someone cut down this tree, probably someone that lives
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  Speaker 5: in these houses because it blocks their view to the ocean.
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  Speaker 5: And look what they've done. They've planted five trees in
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  Speaker 5: retaliation that are going to block their view even more.
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  Speaker 5: That big silently says that for every tree damage they're going.
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  Speaker 2: To plant five. I just love how petty this is.
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  Speaker 1: If going to you're going to poison our trees and
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  Speaker 1: our public parks are going to put up five more
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  Speaker 1: of them, so you have to deal with it. They
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  Speaker 1: put a sign there on this poison tree. It says
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  Speaker 1: trees in this area have been deliberately damaged. Trees are
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  Speaker 1: important community assets. The Council will plant five replacement trees
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  Speaker 1: for every tree damaged finds it up to one point
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  Speaker 1: one million.
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  Speaker 2: Dollars may apply.
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  Speaker 1: And I think this is fantastic because yes, you know
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  Speaker 1: we're we're all from time to time moan about a
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  Speaker 1: tree in the way of my view. If you can
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  Speaker 1: have trees trimmed right, if the tree is getting in
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  Speaker 1: the way, if you go and talk to the council
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  Speaker 1: and see if there's something they can do about it,
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  Speaker 1: don't go and poison it. Because they are lovely, majestic things.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they take in the carbon dioxide we breathe
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  Speaker 1: out and give us oxygen back. Trees are magnificent and
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  Speaker 1: I love that the Council has turned around and said,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, if you're going to try and destroy
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  Speaker 1: the natural beauty of the world, we're just going to bring.
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  Speaker 2: It back fivefold. I want more of this.
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  Speaker 6: Well, this is just the fair income, straightforward attitude we
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  Speaker 6: have down in Cronulla.
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  Speaker 7: As a Crinala.
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  Speaker 6: Local myself, I take this as a big win. I
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  Speaker 6: previously lived in the Inner West and actually describe myself
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  Speaker 6: sometimes as a political refugee moving out to the southerland
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  Speaker 6: Shire because it is perhaps the last place in Sydney
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  Speaker 6: where you do have sensible local councils, good liberal voting locals.
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  Speaker 6: It truly is God's country. I never thought I would
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  Speaker 6: say that as a non Shire person, but having lived
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  Speaker 6: there now for almost a year, I am fully on board.
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  Speaker 6: I love the Shire up up Crenulla. This is just
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  Speaker 6: another example of our supremacy in Sydney.
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  Speaker 3: I believe James Morrow, our beloved friend and colleague, also
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  Speaker 3: lived in the Inner West, so I can tell you
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  Speaker 3: that the conservative population of the Inner West has now harved.
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  Speaker 2: Coming on me, he's me as well.
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  Speaker 3: Ok, okay, stopped by third. But this is fantastic. But
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  Speaker 3: you know what I've always found difficult, Like, surely it's
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  Speaker 3: not hard to find out who spiked the tree. Like
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  Speaker 3: you've just got to go and stand where the tree
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  Speaker 3: used to be, and you look at the ocean one way,
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  Speaker 3: and then you look at whoever's looking at the ocean
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  Speaker 3: from the opposite direction, and it's like, I think it
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  Speaker 3: might be you know, that guy holding a p on
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  Speaker 3: his balcony.
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  Speaker 1: You'd think, But if there's an apartment building, it may
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  Speaker 1: be difficult to locate the person. But I want to
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  Speaker 1: see more of this, and I hope it catches on
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  Speaker 1: elsewhere because it is. When I was a local government reporter,
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  Speaker 1: so often you'd come across the people poisoning trees and
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  Speaker 1: hacking away at trees and doing all very and it
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  Speaker 1: really censors because because they see natural beauty being destroyed,
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  Speaker 1: and I reckon, like, of all the things that all
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  Speaker 1: the crimes you could commit at a local government level,
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  Speaker 1: it is probably the worst.
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  Speaker 3: It's disgusting. I really as someone who's obsessed by history,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, this is you know, once you do that,
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  Speaker 3: you can't take it away. And good on them for
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  Speaker 3: like planning five saplings, but it's going to be decades
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  Speaker 3: before those saplings return to the former glory of what
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  Speaker 3: they've chopped down. But also like imagine thinking, like imagine
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  Speaker 3: being so ridiculously rich and over privilege that you've got
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  Speaker 3: a house or an apartment. But I think with people
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  Speaker 3: in mansions with you know, an ocean view or a
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  Speaker 3: harbor view, and you still think, nah, I should have
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  Speaker 3: more than that. I should have more of a harbor view,
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  Speaker 3: more of an ocean view. And so to get that,
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to you know, kill a hundred year old
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  Speaker 3: tree that the community has been enjoying, you know, for generations,
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  Speaker 3: because I just want to see more of the blue
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  Speaker 3: bits when I'm at home doing like exactly doing what
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  Speaker 3: like plotting World War three? Like how sociopathic, How absolutely
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  Speaker 3: psychopathic would you have to be? I mean they go
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  Speaker 3: around stealing low he pops off babies.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, well that's the thing.
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  Speaker 6: Anyone who's going to the lengths of poisoning or cutting
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  Speaker 6: down trees in public parks because they are obscuring their
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  Speaker 6: harbor views, of their ocean views. They're not battlers, they
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  Speaker 6: are not They are just winges and they should be punished.
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  Speaker 6: So good on the Southern Shire Council. But you know
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  Speaker 6: where the battlers are truly suffering lift in Melbourne. They
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  Speaker 6: are incensed the locals there because apparently the train services
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  Speaker 6: have installed a new automatic bell on the train level
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  Speaker 6: crossing in their suburb that now rings every couple of
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  Speaker 6: minutes at a higher pitch and it's super loud.
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  Speaker 7: Check it out.
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  Speaker 6: Metro says it's already turned the volume down because of
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  Speaker 6: complaints and this.
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  Speaker 7: Is as low as they'll go. Metro has even deactivated
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  Speaker 7: one set of bewls, but still.
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  Speaker 3: Shut the door and hope for the best.
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  Speaker 6: The bells taking their top and then I can hear
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  Speaker 6: it in my ears and I'm like, oh no, I
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  Speaker 6: have a PTSD and I hate it. Now these bells
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  Speaker 6: are running every couple of minutes. They only pause for
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  Speaker 6: a couple of hours from twelve thirty in the morning
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  Speaker 6: till four forty five am, and then the rest of
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  Speaker 6: the day you can be hearing these bells.
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  Speaker 7: Now. The best part of this story.
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  Speaker 6: Is how the locals have described the utter nightmare that
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  Speaker 6: they're having to live through. One person said, in thirty
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  Speaker 6: five years, I've never had issues with living by the
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  Speaker 6: rail line. I love living here, but now this is
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  Speaker 6: killing me.
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  Speaker 7: Metro trains are gas lighting us. Really, it's just pierces.
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  Speaker 6: The house my son's trying to study and work has
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  Speaker 6: moved out. And then this was perhaps my favorite one.
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  Speaker 6: If I was a prisoner being treated this way, I'm
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  Speaker 6: pretty sure this would be infringing on my civil rights.
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  Speaker 3: Guide Criston Hill start, who.
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  Speaker 1: Needs water boarding when you've got level crossings?
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  Speaker 3: This is fantastic. Like the last one was the most
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  Speaker 3: Sydney story ever, this is the most Melbourne story ever.
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  Speaker 3: Clifton Hill is North adjacent. I think we can say
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  Speaker 3: so it's like the heartland of the inner west of Melbourne.
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  Speaker 3: They're equivalent to the in western city in Melbourne, and
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  Speaker 3: it is just it is just amazing that you could
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  Speaker 3: actually find people complaining about having too much public transport.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: There was a derailment at Clifton Nills, so they've gone
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  Speaker 1: and put these new bills in and apparently they're much
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  Speaker 1: louder than the ones that were there before. It all
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  Speaker 1: seems rather strange, but ofcause Daniel Andrews was obsessed with
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  Speaker 1: getting rid of level crossings and it was a magnificent
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  Speaker 1: bit of politics, I have to say, because it did
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  Speaker 1: win in votes.
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  Speaker 2: It was a thoroughly.
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  Speaker 1: Successful policy to get rid of level crossings because it
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  Speaker 1: gave people back significant amounts of time on their commutes
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  Speaker 1: to work in the morning. Of course that's all gone
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  Speaker 1: out the window because everyone works from home in Melbourne now,
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  Speaker 1: so you could never repeat that again. But this is
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  Speaker 1: what the people of Clifton Hill get for living in
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  Speaker 1: a safe labor area because they're not going to have
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  Speaker 1: their level crossings taken away. They weren't going to have
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  Speaker 1: them taken away by Daniel Andrews because he didn't have
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  Speaker 1: to shore up their votes, and now they're paying the
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  Speaker 1: price for it.
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  Speaker 6: But I also think, I mean, come on, you moved
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  Speaker 6: into this area.
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  Speaker 7: You knew there was a train line there.
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  Speaker 6: The train line existed long before you moved into the suburb.
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  Speaker 6: You have to be aware of what you're getting when
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  Speaker 6: you move in.
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  Speaker 7: Now.
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  Speaker 6: I do understand it would be annoying having that going
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  Speaker 6: off every couple of minutes all day and all night.
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  Speaker 6: But at the same time, like there was already a
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  Speaker 6: train line there and you chose to move there, How
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  Speaker 6: are the bells louder than the trains that are going
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  Speaker 6: past when the bells are ringing?
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  Speaker 1: But if they put but if they put new bells
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  Speaker 1: on and new bells are louder, I think they've actually
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  Speaker 1: got a case to make.
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  Speaker 2: If they didn't have a problem. This woman's living thirty five.
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  Speaker 1: Years and has not had a problem, and then all
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  Speaker 1: of sudden they put the new bells on and their
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  Speaker 1: bloody loud.
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  Speaker 2: I think she might have a point.
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  Speaker 6: But how can the bells be louder than the huge
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  Speaker 6: trains that go through there?
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  Speaker 1: Because you probably get used to the sound of the trains.
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  Speaker 1: It's sort of a you know, melodical sort of thing
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  Speaker 1: is a rhythm.
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  Speaker 3: That's right, it's not you put babies to sleep. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they're seen in Tom Cruises first film with him. I
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  Speaker 3: won't I won't say no rhythmic with me.
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  Speaker 1: And then you're adding the bell. I think they've actually
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  Speaker 1: got a case.
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  Speaker 3: To normal like you've looked in Melbourne as well. I
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  Speaker 3: grew up in Melbourne. That sounded like normal bells to me.
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  Speaker 3: The bells you hear it.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like we need someone when one of us
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  Speaker 1: needs to go to Melbourne and go and stand next.
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  Speaker 3: To the bell. I used to spend a lot of
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  Speaker 3: time at Clifton Hill Station because it's their branch where
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  Speaker 3: two train lines goes off and one of them goes
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  Speaker 3: to went to my ex girlfriend's house and the other
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  Speaker 3: one went to somewhere else. Anyway, I chose the wrong train.
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  Speaker 3: Another thing that is that is keeping people stressed out
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  Speaker 3: is teachers, and teachers are among Apparently, according to a
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  Speaker 3: study from the OCD, teachers in Australia are the most
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  Speaker 3: stressed out in the world, or sorry, second most stressed
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  Speaker 3: out teachers in the world, even though they only spend
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  Speaker 3: a less than half their time in the classroom. And
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  Speaker 3: this to me is staggering but not surprising if that
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  Speaker 3: makes any sense. They only spend twenty out of their
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  Speaker 3: forty six point five hour working week in front of
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  Speaker 3: the class, spending eight point four hours planning lessons, five
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  Speaker 3: point seven hours marking, and four point seven hours on
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  Speaker 3: the phone to angry parents. No four point seven hours
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  Speaker 3: on addmin among other tasks, which probably is on the
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  Speaker 3: phone angry prayers. According to the OECD STAB shot, the
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  Speaker 3: Teacher and Learning International Survey of Teachers and Principles from
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  Speaker 3: fifty five nations shows Australia's teachers stress levels second only two.
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  Speaker 3: What would you think Sudan?
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  Speaker 2: I know the answers you can't guide it on me, Joe, But.
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  Speaker 3: No Canada, I know it's only place even more boring
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  Speaker 3: and stable than Australia.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, it's specifically Alberta.
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  Speaker 1: Canada, for some reason, is the place that is the
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  Speaker 1: most stressed in the word. The top five is Alberta, Australia,
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  Speaker 1: New Zealand, Malta and the United States. And the last
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  Speaker 1: time they did this survey was twenty eighteen. It was
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  Speaker 1: twenty five percent of Australian teachers said they were stressed
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  Speaker 1: most of the time and now it's thirty four percent,
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  Speaker 1: so it's quite a significant increase we've had in the
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  Speaker 1: last six or seven years.
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  Speaker 2: And I think this is why.
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  Speaker 1: And part of the reason is they say, you know
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  Speaker 1: that they've it's not necessarily because of the amount of
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  Speaker 1: time they're spending in the class, but to all this
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  Speaker 1: other stuff they have to deal with, and teachers are
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  Speaker 1: expected to keep up with all this sort of business.
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  Speaker 1: They're going to have, all these professional development days and
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  Speaker 1: all this garbage that get sent down that they've got
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  Speaker 1: to keep on top of. They want to teach, right,
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  Speaker 1: Most people I believe who want to go into teaching
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  Speaker 1: want to go into teaching to teach. Many of them
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  Speaker 1: then get the job, They become a teacher and realize
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  Speaker 1: that it's very hard to actually just go about the
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  Speaker 1: business of being a teacher, and all those people leave.
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  Speaker 1: They crack it after a few years and they walk away,
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  Speaker 1: and that's how you end up with a broken education
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  Speaker 1: system that's full of teachers who are only there because
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  Speaker 1: they want to indoctrinate children. I think it's a large
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  Speaker 1: part of the problem. These people who want to do
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  Speaker 1: good work just cannot cope with the other garbage that
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  Speaker 1: comes along with the job and they walk away and
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  Speaker 1: go somewhere else and find someone who'll pay them more
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  Speaker 1: money to do less work exactly.
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  Speaker 6: And sixty nine percent of them say the reason they're
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  Speaker 6: so stressed is because they're doing too much admin. Fifty
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  Speaker 6: percent say it's too much marking, and forty six percent
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  Speaker 6: say it's trying to keep up with the change in
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  Speaker 6: careca and school requirements. And those really are the top
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  Speaker 6: three things. None of them really impact. Can these children
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  Speaker 6: read and write? Can they do basic arithmetic? It's all
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  Speaker 6: this extra stuff around the edges, and you have to ask,
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  Speaker 6: what is all the administrative work that they're being tasked with?
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  Speaker 6: And this is part of the problem. We have a
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  Speaker 6: bloated education bureaucracy. We have duplication between the states and
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  Speaker 6: the federal government and then the schools themselves. We have
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  Speaker 6: an ever changing and expanding curriculum. But really we just
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  Speaker 6: need to get back to basics, because despite the extra
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  Speaker 6: billions and billions of dollars we're spending, despite all the
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  Speaker 6: new curriculum updates and the cross curriculum priorities and this
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  Speaker 6: and the diversity and whatever, education standards are still going backwards,
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  Speaker 6: and our teachers are still getting stressed. And the other
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  Speaker 6: factor we have to talk about is classroom discipline. I
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  Speaker 6: mean that is also one of the reasons that they're stressed.
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  Speaker 6: And we have some of the worse behaved classrooms in
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  Speaker 6: the world. And I can't help but notice the jump
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  Speaker 6: that's happened since COVID and I reckon. You know, you
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  Speaker 6: take kids out of the classroom for two years, lots
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  Speaker 6: of kids probably forgotten how to behave They haven't had
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  Speaker 6: to comply with discipline for years and gotten ADHD and
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  Speaker 6: all this stuff from being on screens for too long,
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  Speaker 6: and now it's a nightmare. So these problems are just compounding.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the COVID stuff was definitely, like the COVID stuff
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  Speaker 3: was the last thing that should ever have happened to
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  Speaker 3: these kids. And closing schools was an absolute disgrace. It
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  Speaker 3: was never evidence based, It was based on a moral panic,
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  Speaker 3: and every premier and politician that signed up for that,
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  Speaker 3: honestly should be deeply, deeply ashamed. It was a disgraceful
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  Speaker 3: thing to have happened, and it was just a sort
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  Speaker 3: of a snowballing effect and avalanche effect. Once one state
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  Speaker 3: did the private schools did it, then one state did it,
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  Speaker 3: and then everyone then if we don't do it, we're
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  Speaker 3: the ones that are killing children. But parking that to
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  Speaker 3: one side, this is something I've done, you hate to
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  Speaker 3: work on. So and the good news is to preface
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  Speaker 3: all of it, is that it's turning around, so that
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  Speaker 3: actually changing it, and they're changing the curriculum to go
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  Speaker 3: back to basics, so it is direct instruction, evidence based learning, reading, writing, arithmetic, phonics,
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  Speaker 3: the whole bit. And both the state that were New
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  Speaker 3: South Wales government anyway and the federal government are doing that.
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  Speaker 3: And the federal government obviously has oversights over the education
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  Speaker 3: of teachers, so getting people teaching degrees, and part of
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  Speaker 3: the problem has been that the threshold for getting into
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  Speaker 3: a teaching degree is so low that people were doing
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  Speaker 3: it sometimes because they just couldn't get into their first choice.
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  Speaker 3: And so it had people who have a huge amount
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  Speaker 3: of people who obviously the best teachers in the world
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  Speaker 3: and the most dedicated people in the world, but you
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  Speaker 3: also had people who were going in there because they
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  Speaker 3: couldn't get into any other degrees or because it was
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  Speaker 3: what they could get, and then when they got to
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  Speaker 3: the other end of that degree, they weren't actually prepared
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  Speaker 3: to do the hard work that teaching requires. It is
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  Speaker 3: an incredibly hard job. And they weren't getting enough classroom
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  Speaker 3: time as well, So people weren't getting teacher graduates, weren't
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  Speaker 3: coming out with the training they needed to be able
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  Speaker 3: to control the classroom and to control and impose discipline,
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  Speaker 3: and so they were burning out like no tomorrow. So
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  Speaker 3: there was a figure something like I think after five years,
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  Speaker 3: something like fifty percent of teachers had left the profession
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  Speaker 3: and we've now got a crippling teacher shortage because of that.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: And there's been other research that shows that teachers feel
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: really undervalued. So a majority of teachers in another survey
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: that Monash Unity did said that teachers felt that most
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: people didn't in the community, not just kids, but parents
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: in the general community didn't respect them. And there's no
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: way you are going to go into a job where
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: you don't think people respect you. And course, what does
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: that mean. That means is even more of a shortage.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: The ones who were left or even more overworked classes
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: are even bigger disciplines and then bigger problem they get
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: more and more stressed out they leave the profession. You
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: have a death spiral and On that happy note, let's
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: get onto the next topic.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Well, if you think we're being down on the education system,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: we may have found the answer to all the woes,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: and that is to get a faction designer to come
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: in and create your school uniform. And I wish I
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: was joking to This story popped up in the Herald
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Sun today that Celesian College Chadstone in Melbourne. Again in Melbourne,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: where else, has called in a famous fashion designer, Peter Morrissey.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: And you know he's done work for Kylie Minogan, El
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: McPherson and all these other people. They've called him in
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: to design the school uniforms because that is what you
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: were paying your private school.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Fees for, of course, to.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Get a well known fashion designer to make sure your
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: kid looks good when he trots off to school in
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: the morning. The principal, Mark Ashmore said, we're proud to
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: be the first school in the country to unveil a
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: uniform collection curated by Peter Morrissey, as one of Australia's
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: most respected designers. It's lessen we prepare our young people
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: to step into the world with pride, presence and purpose
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: and what they wear plays a role in that. The
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: second part of that quote I don't necessarily have a
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: problem with, and I do think we talked about this
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: the other night, Joe. I do think that school uniform
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: is important and it ought to be enforced. And there's
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: a reason you have it because it levels all children,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: because they're all dressed the same in the same stuff
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: as representatives of the school, and it teaches them that
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: you are part of something bigger. But for heaven said,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: do we really need to get to the point of
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: having fashion designers to the stars coming in to do
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: the school uniforms for the kids.
• 19:29
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: I think this story is a bit of a beat up,
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: to be honest. Peter Marissi has actually done collections for
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: Big W as well, so he's not exclusively a celebrity stylist.
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: He's done a lot of retail, mainstream stuff as well.
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: I think this is more just a lucrative business opportunity
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: for him, rather than this school somehow launching their own
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: fashion week of uniforms.
• 19:55
  Speaker 7: And if you look at the uniform that's actually.
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: Been designed, it looks like every other schools.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: One for THEE, one for dead.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: College jeds just don't try to video even he's in
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: the airport.
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: But I will say this does seem to be part
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: of a new trend of private schools constantly wanting to
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: outdo each other and take things to the next level.
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: Because Furbank Grammar School and another private school in Melbourne
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: has also employed a fashion designer to redesign their school uniforms.
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: So this might be the new frontier of private school elitism.
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: Who is the highest or best named designer you can
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: get to design your school uniform?
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Is that not just the ultimate wank that we'll be
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: having a private school. Pretty much all private schools get
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: subsidized by the taxpayer, and this is what they're pissing
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: their money away on. I mean, this is just outrageous.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: This has nothing to do with the point of school uniforms.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: For the pointiforms, the kids aren't, you know, aren't left
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: out because they look different or because they can't afford
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: designer claves, not because the whole school can afford designer class.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: And if I were paying, you know, substantial fees to
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: send a kid to a private school, and then little
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Johnny came home and said, oh, look at this letter
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: where our school uniform is going to be designed by
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: a famous fashion design I mean, what are you doing
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: with my school fees? Spend the money on getting little
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Johnny's brain to work better, not on paying some bloke
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: to design his uniform.
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting your students.
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: To look good like.
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: I don't think you've anything wrong with a nice school uniform.
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: Honestly, I'm not.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Saying there anything wrong with a nice school uniform, but
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: surely you can just go and buy one off the
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: rack somewhere and say yes, I'll have that version of
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: that please, without getting some bloke to come at.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: All I'm doing is you've.
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: Seen most school uniforms, Caleb. Yeah, it's hard to find
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: nice ones, so good on them.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: I love that. I love that.
• 21:54
  Speaker 7: Sorry, Caleb, it had to be said.
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: But on a more serious note, it is today the
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: anniversary of October seven, and as we know, the Palestine
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: Action Group is planning.
• 22:07
  Speaker 7: A protest for the Opera House this weekend.
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: Now they are calling for it to be moved quickly
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: into the Court of Appeals because they think it will
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: deal with a lot of constitutional matters. The police also
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: agree with that, but it does raise this question should
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: they actually be allowed to protest on the Opera House.
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: The police are saying no, citing public safety concerns, and
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: Chris Mins, the sensible premier he is, has backed them in.
• 22:35
  Speaker 8: Look IM back the police here. They've made a decision
• 22:38
  Speaker 8: based on community safety. It's an incredibly narrow peninsula, as
• 22:42
  Speaker 8: everybody knows, that fore court of the Opera House, and
• 22:44
  Speaker 8: they've got a responsibility to keep the public safe. And
• 22:47
  Speaker 8: when things go bad, when these big public protests go bad,
• 22:51
  Speaker 8: either there's community safety issues or there's naked hate speech,
• 22:55
  Speaker 8: the police get the blame.
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: Now, I understand the public safety concerns raising here, but
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: I think that is actually a secondary point. The primary
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: point is should they even be allowed to protest there
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: in the first place? Is this what we want done
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: with our national icons? Remember October nine, twenty twenty three,
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: less than twenty four hours after Hermas invaded Israel. Israel
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: had not even gone into Gaza. The ground invasion didn't
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: start for another twenty days, Yet there were thousands of
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: people on the streets of Sydney chanting horrific chance. Just
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: to jog your memory, here was the exclusive footage that
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: was released tonight on Shari's program, Right and now today
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: in Bankstown, this evening at seven pm, on the anniversary
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: of October seven, there were more protests.
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: These ones were titled Glory to our Martyrs.
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: They have well and truly shown their face to protest.
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: I fully respect the right of people to protest, but
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: to hijack national icons and to do it on this
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: day of all days, I think just shows the true
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: colors and the true motives behind this so called peace movement.
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: It's not about that at all.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think anyone who demonstrates today is
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: essentially signaling to the world that there are hamas sympathizer.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: It's not about innocent people in Gaza, it's not about
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: civilian death. It's that you feel sympathy for what Hamasa
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: did on October the seven. Ie you're saying you support
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: the action, which was the largest laughter of Jews since
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: the Holocaust. You know, I think they've just made that
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: pretty damn clear. But I actually think that the comments
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: that Mins has made in respect to the Opera House
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: are measured and sensible. He went on to say in
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: that interview, Joe and I think he raised a good
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: point in saying it that he doesn't want to turn
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: this into a are you allowed to protest or not
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: allowed to protest because he doesn't want to become a
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: free speech argument, which they then turn around and say, well,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: you won't let us protest because you don't like what
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: we're going to say exactly, And he's quite conscious of
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: that and saying, look, I'm not telling you you can't protest.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying it is in the wrong spot. And
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: I think he's right, insane, He's absolutely right.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: That's why it has to be a public safety and
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: order issue, because the minute it becomes an ideological issue,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: then suddenly you're in a position where the government of
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: the day is deciding which causes, which side of politics,
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: which ideologies are or are not allowed to use national landmarks.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: And of course, while we might agree with that decision
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: on the causes where he sympathize with, obviously that has
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: some really really chilling implications. It's the exact same argument
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: they made with the Harbor Bridge and the Supreme Court
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: very very foolishly overruled that or ruled against the police
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: in that case. But the really interesting thing, and I'm
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: talking about people picking ideological sides or not, clearly, I
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: think the Supreme Court actually did take a political decision
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: because it just accepted the word of the protest organizers
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: that everything would be fine because they can organize protests
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: because they're such good activists. And then of course it
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: wasn't fine. Police had to turn that protest around. So
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: just on the facts of it, the court appears to
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: have got it wrong. But the protesters now are in
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: the court. They've gone up to the Court of the Appeal.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: It's been bounced from the Supreme Court to the Court
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: of Appeal. They are asking the court to make a
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: ruling over whether or not Israel commits genocide. So they
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: are actually they are saying, as part of their case
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: as to why we need to be able to protest
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: at the Opera House, it's because Israel is committing genocide
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: and that therefore makes it an issue of national importance,
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: and that therefore means that we have to be able
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: to protest at this iconic national location. Now, just try
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: to wrap your head around just the tiny little pea
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: brain thinking behind that, like the idea, not even an
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: Australian federal or national court, but a state court in
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: Australia has to make a decision that will presumably become
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: what common law precedent that every future decision made in
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: New South Wales jurisprudence has to hark back to when
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: dealing with this issue at State Court in Australia has
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: to make a decision on whether or not Israel's committing genocide?
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: Like how absolutely cooked do you have to be for
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: that thought to even enter your head, let alone those
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: words to lead your band. You've got to wonder what
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: their lawyer must be thinking.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: You can you imagine like a Supreme Court judge, you know,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: on the day that he took to the bar thinking,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: you know, at some point in my career I'm going
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: to progress to the point where I'm asked to make
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: an adjudication on whether a foreign nation is committing a
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: genocide in a supreme court in you South Wales. But
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: it is just insane, and you know, I think it's
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Joe quite rightly says, it gives you a bit of
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: a window into where these people's.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Minds are going.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: And of course do not miss Tomorrow night seven thirty
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: pm Australian Eastern daylight time, so that'll be six point
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: thirty in Queensland, seven o'clock in South Australia and three
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: hours behind that in Western Australia as well. October eighth
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: documentary of course, that we are screening tomorrow night, looking
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: into the rise of anti Semitism in the aftermath of
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: October seven. Again, that is tomorrow, seven thirty pm Australian
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Eastern daylight time. While we're talking about things happening overseas.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Rosio o'donald, who you might know, comedian who's been having
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: beef with Donald tru the president, for quite some time now,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: all the way back to when he was first running
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: for presidents.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: So this is more than a decade.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: This has been going on for and she took it
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: really seriously when he got elected the second time. She's
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: moved over to Ireland because she's exiled herself from the
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: United States because she can't bear to live under the
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: rule of Donald Trump, you know, great fascist that he is. Anyway,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: she's an alleged comedian and she's come over to Australia
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: for a tour. She's performing at the Sydney Opera House.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: The Daily Telegraph called up with her.
• 29:33
  Speaker 9: Take a look, I love the United States of America.
• 29:37
  Speaker 9: I don't agree with everything that we've done ever politically
• 29:40
  Speaker 9: or you know, imperialistically. We're supposed to be the biggest
• 29:45
  Speaker 9: speakon of democrat see in the world, and we're failing.
• 29:49
  Speaker 9: Till my last breath, I'll be speaking up for democracy
• 29:52
  Speaker 9: and for the founding fathers.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Believe imagine, wouldn't it be terrible or just you know,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: imagine be the personal next when she's flying out to
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Australia or any other place for that matter. I especially
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: love the way she says democracy, democray democracy. You know,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: you're just going to put the little emphasis in there.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: But she went on to stay, what's coming is fascism
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: in the United States, pure and simple Christian white nationalism.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: And that's not democracy, and that's not a democratic republican.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: You know, that's not who we are. I feel that
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: if we let them continue on, we are doomed as
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: a democracy. So of course she did what any sensible
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: person would do if they thought that their country was
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: going backwards and ought to be defended.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: She went and moved.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Somewhere else so she could hand it over to these
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: fascists to it.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Don't doing away with them? I mean good.
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: So I mean, firstly, the idea of voluntary political exile.
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: I mean, I think that kind of defeats the point
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: of exile, and that shows you're actually not an exile.
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: You actually sive freedoms which you don't have in a nationalist,
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: fascist state that you think the United States is.
• 31:02
  Speaker 7: You freely chose to leave, so.
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: You do still have rights and the idea that we
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: would then were doomed if we let them continue on.
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: So you want to overthrow the democratically elected government because
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: you don't agree with them, isn't that what is anti democratic?
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: It might be a nationalist government, it might even be
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: a Christian nationalist government, but it's what the people overwhelmingly
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: elected as a majority.
• 31:32
  Speaker 7: In the United States.
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: And so if you have an issue with the government,
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: well you have an issue with the majority of Americans.
• 31:39
  Speaker 7: And that doesn't sound very democratic to me.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: She says, Christian white nationalism. And I thought Donald Trump's
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: vote with black men in particular went through the roof.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: He's vote with Latino min went.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Through the roof.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's got much to do being white,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: to be perfectly honest.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, look, don't be deceived. Rosie o'donald's show at the
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: House is really funny. If that little sample of her
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: comedic stylings wasn't enough to whet your appetite. She's got
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: some real bangers in the can that she's just saving
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: for Opening Night. I don't understand how when she ever
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: said anything funny, I don't. I just remember her just always.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: She's just like that. That just she's like a teal.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: She's like somebody's constantly sitting around, Like if she was here,
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: she'd be winging about Scott Morrison and the bushfires and
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: climate change.
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: Well she doesn't have to tell jokes because she is
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: the joke.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: But like her entire routine is just like criticizing Donald
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: Trump in ever more hysterical term and then you know,
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: then he fights bad and he's really fair. But but look,
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: it can't be a Christian government because there is an
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: enforced separation of church and state in the US, to
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: the point where I think someone actually tried to get
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: across the image of a cross removed from a federal
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: government site because they said it violated the Constitution. So
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: it's not that, sorry, Rosie. And yes, Latino men, I
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: think Donald Trump cracked fifty percent of Latino men last election.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: And black men it was a minority, but it was
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: a rising minority. I think it was about thirty percent
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: or something like that. So maybe Rosio o'donald just doesn't
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: like Americans, because when she says that, you know, I
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: love America and the you know I speak for, it
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: seems like the majority of Americans kind of disagreed with
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: you at the last election. So maybe instead of like
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: just cracking the sads and having a sook and picking
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: up your bat and ball and leaving the country, why
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: don't you go and try to engage with them, find
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: out why they're voting for Donald Trump, and maybe even
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: tell them a joke.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Good luck, good luck, And I tell you this really
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: sad story. And in aged care, we know there have
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: been issues in age care for quite some time. We
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: had a royal commission into it, for Heaven's sake, but
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: how often do we have royal commissions into things and
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: they don't really change.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: A great report in the news.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Core Papers from Jullie Cross looking into just how bad
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: some of this has become, and I mean it is
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: at the point now where you have people, elderly people
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: who cannot get a place in an aged care home
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: because they're so overrun that the aged care homes is
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: just refusing to take what they term to be difficult patients.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: And these are the people who probably need the care
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: the most, people who've got dementia or other conditions like that.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Even people who are overweight or who smoke. They're saying, no,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: no room at the inn for you, because we've got someone.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Else who is easier to deal with.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: They don't have a room for them, so they're ending
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: up in hospitals when they're being treated, and then once
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: they've spent their time in hospital, they don't have any
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: where to send them after that, so people are just
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: being kept in hospital indefinitely because we don't have anywhere
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: to look after older people in this country. It is
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: just I mean, it is a national shame. It really
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: is a national shame, and it would seem as though
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: nothing has.
• 34:58
  Speaker 7: Changed totally and it is tragic.
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: And what's happening is the hospitals are now being clogged
• 35:03
  Speaker 6: up full of people, so they're even putting elderly people
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: up in hotels and paying private hospitals to take them
• 35:10
  Speaker 6: because the public system simply can't accommodate them. And then
• 35:14
  Speaker 6: when people with high needs move into these homes, often
• 35:18
  Speaker 6: many of their needs are completely disregarded or ignored. For example,
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: the report gave this example of a vegetarian. A vegetarian
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: age care resident was given vegetable soup, which was often
• 35:31
  Speaker 6: meat based, and the only other vegetarian option most evenings
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: was Coleslaw. When they offered the meal of mushrooms from
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: the menu, they received a single mushroom for dinner. And
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: what's so sad about this is a lot of times
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: some people they don't have the family that can come
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: in and check on them, they don't have anyone advocating
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: for their rights or their dignity, and they're left to
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: languish in these facilities that are impersonal, that don't really
• 35:58
  Speaker 6: care about them, and it's just a tragedy. Meanwhile, there
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: are one hundred and twenty thousand elderly Australians waiting.
• 36:06
  Speaker 7: To be assessed for at home care packages.
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: So you've got literally hundreds of thousands of people caught
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: up in this system and the system is not working.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I reckon, we've got to get that at
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: home care. Honestly, my worst nightmare is ending up in
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: a situation like that where I can't choose the food
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: I eat, or you're in someone else's place where you
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: can't you've got no freedom of movement. And so I
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: think getting that in home care is the absolute and
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: really good initiative from the fallen Morrison.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Government indeed, and I think it's where most people would
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: like to be. I mean, how many people do you
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: hear say? You know, my final wish is that I'd
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: like to go at home. I don't want it to
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: happen in a sterile hospital environment or an age care home.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: And you can totally understand there. After the break we'll
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: get into tomorrow's papers. We'll tell you the city where
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: free public transport is on the way and when it
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: will arrive.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Radio let's get.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Into all of tomorrow's news. Will start with the Daily Telegraph.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: Joe, I'm glad you asked, and yes this is an
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: absolute cracker of a splash. Aussie taxpayers fund Beijing climate
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: bid Chinese checks get up. Yeah, that's the sort of
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: quality backbenching you don't.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: The Broadsheet mass Heads Charles Chadwick has written Australian taxpayers
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: are bank rolling a Chinese Communist Party run climate change
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: initiative to drive renewable energy uptake and improve air quality
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: in China. That sounds nice. The whole Communist Party the reasonable.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: The Daily Telegraph can reveal taxpayers are helping to fund
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: a multi year project to slash carbon emissions and accelerate
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: air pollution abatement in Shandong Province via a US four
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: hundred million that's Australian six hundred million dollar alone from
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: the Asian Development Bank, and the project has been over
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: seen by the CCP controlled Shandong Provincial government and the
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: Guangdong Finance Trust Company, a financial services firm headquartered in Guangxu.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: So there you go. I mean, this is the problem,
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: isn't it. Basically everything in China is either run by
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: the government, which is of course the Chinese Communist Party,
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: or it has to hand over whatever secrets or information
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: or intel or data it has to the government if
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: the government asks for it. So but the Communists run
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: us all.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: You'd think, given all the money that we're already spending
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: buying all of our renewable infrastructure from China, all the
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: solar panels, all this gear, that they'd be able to
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: go and use some of that money to go and
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: bang up whatever stuff they wanted. And there was a
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: story a couple of weeks ago about again from the
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Telly about the Asia Development Bank, where you know this
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: money is also being spent in Tajikistan to put in
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: ev charging places right to Jikistan has its GDP is
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: like one hundred and sixtieth in the world or something,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: so all the things they could.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Be doing with this it's as bad as victorious. I
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: know that's a good point.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: But we give this money to the Asia Development Banking,
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: good fight to invest in these nations, and this is
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: where it's ending up.
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: Well yeah, and also how much coal do we export
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: to China that they then burn and then create emission.
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: So we're going to export coal to them, so that's
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: called we can't use her in Australia. And then we're
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: going to pay to clean up their emissions.
• 39:29
  Speaker 7: This is just a ponzi scheme.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: No, but then we're funding their emissions reduction scheme to
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: make up for all the coal that we sell them for.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: You see, it's all fine out of the circle of life.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: Another great story on the front page of the Daily
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: Telegraph tomorrow Burke's plead to stop this quote unquote awful rally.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke a true hero and patriot,
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: and I'm sure a friend of the show, as you'll
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: all agree, has warned protesters against repeating the awful scenes
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: at the Sydney Opera House two years ago, as pro
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: Palestinian activists seek to have this state It's highest court
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: green light a plan rally the National Icon on Sunday.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: As we talked about in a rare castigation of Palestinian activism,
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: I think he's been pretty good on it, I think.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: But mister Burke joined other politicians to strongly urge protesters
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: not to march on the Opera House for fear of
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: a repeat of the ugly scenes on October nine, twenty
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: twenty three when Israeli flags were burned mid chance off
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: the Jews and of course where's the Jews? As we
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: saw very sinister the chance at the Opera House last
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: time was so awful. I can't understand why anyone would
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: want to revisit that.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Mister Burke said, here here, even a broken clock is
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: right twice a day. Let's go to the Herald Sun
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: tomorrow where new mcg stands out. That's render image there,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: what the mcg will look like. They've got more images
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: in the paper tomorrow, but the Herald Sun is revealing
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: the bold vision for a two billion dollar revamp of
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: the MCG with a new Shane worn stand set to
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: feature sprawling skyline, bars, sports pubs and restaurants. Bring it on,
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: but the story below it free ride Exclusive Victorians will
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: travel free on public transport every weekend from early December
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: until February one as part of the launch of the
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: fifteen and a half billion dollar Metro Tunnel. The cash splash,
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: which we'll see barriers left open from early Saturday mornings
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: until the last Sunday services over a two month period,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: is described by PREMIERG cinter Allen as a thank you
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: to passengers who endured years of travel disruptions. It would
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: mean cricket fanatics traveling to and from the second and
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: third day of the Boxing Day Test match get.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: A free ride.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Yes, okay, that may be true, but how much of
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: it may also have something to do with the looming
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: state election next year in November.
• 41:43
  Speaker 6: Yep, I think that's the trend. We saw that in
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: Queensland as well. That's exactly what Stephen Miles did in
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: the dying days of the Queensland Labor Government and justinterer
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: Allen might be saying thank you to Victoria, but Victoria
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: should be saying no, thank you to labor.
• 42:00
  Speaker 7: But it doesn't seem to get through their heads. No
• 42:02
  Speaker 7: matter how bad the government down there gets.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: Well, the opposition is always worse. That's the thing like,
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: no matter how low the government goes, the Victoria liberals
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: always managed to just dig that little bit lower. But
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: I look forward to the state government's follow up plan
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: to nationalized service stations Victoria because I think that was
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: Stephen Miles's other Vrange job.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Well, and you know they've rebooted the state Energy Authority
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: down there in Victoria too, so you know a thing
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: is possible.
• 42:31
  Speaker 7: It is so bad.
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: Well, Tomorrow on the Townsville Bulletin, the headline is glen
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: Core given a lifeline. Swiss mining giant glen Core has
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: struck a deal with the federal and state governments to
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: keep the Mount Isa copper svelter and Townsville refinery open,
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: saving seventeen thousand jobs. Industry Minister tim As and Queensland
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: Resources and Mines Minister Dale Last will be in Mount
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: Isa today to reveal the details of the support package
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: designed to future proof the state's position as a copper powerhouse,
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: bringing an end to months of negotiations.
• 43:05
  Speaker 7: That's pretty great news.
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: Seventeen thousand jobs for the Mount Isaac community.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Massive, Yeah, you know it had to happen, right, what
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: cheer everything?
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: Huge for Australia, huge amount. Have you been to Mount
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: Either it's the most amazing to No.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: I haven't made it there.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: It's just it is just it's like a whole new world.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: It's just fantastic and the mind and stuff like, it's
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: weird because you think of a mine being something that's
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: out there, so you know, out of sight, out of mind.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: In mounta Issa it's just like right there on the mainstream.
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: It's just fantastic.
• 43:38
  Speaker 7: I love it so good.
• 43:39
  Speaker 6: Also in the Townsville Bulletin tomorrow, Driver's flood failure, a
• 43:43
  Speaker 6: Townsville bus driver who lost his license after leaving school
• 43:46
  Speaker 6: kids on the side of the road to avoid floodwaters
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: has applied for it to be reinstated. Earlier this year,
• 43:53
  Speaker 6: concerned parents express outrage over former Kinetic driver Stephen Jeffrey Reid,
• 43:57
  Speaker 6: who dumped children to make their own way home. His
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: license was suspended on the basis that he failed to
• 44:04
  Speaker 6: sufficiently prioritize the safety of the students and did not
• 44:07
  Speaker 6: align with the objectives.
• 44:08
  Speaker 7: Of driver authorization. You can say that again.
• 44:13
  Speaker 6: He dumped the kids off his school bus and made
• 44:16
  Speaker 6: them walk so he didn't have to go through floodwaters.
• 44:20
  Speaker 7: What about the children.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: Look, I've heard of people going from walk to school day,
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: but that seems to be taking it a bit in
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: the school.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Even if he got his license back, who's going to
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: employ the guard? Oh yeah, I want the fellow who
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: dropped the kids off in the flood. I mean, thank goodness, No,
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: I never know.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: Maybe he's just misunderstood. But we cannot go without touching
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: on the obligatory Croc story. That's right, they've got to
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: buy a case for the newsroom for getting this one
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: on the front. Snappy sail Ireland comes with Kroc buyer
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: must promise to care for three point four million dollars. Yes,
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: this is what a real estate's doing.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Three and a half liters three what I.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: Say, three five million dollars. So that's that's Sydney real
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: estate meeting anti real estate. So Kyle Hansen, the territori
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: and who went viral for smacking a three point five
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: meters salty on the nose with a frying pan, because
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: sometimes you've got to do that just to keep him
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: in line. What you has put his beloved goat Island
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: on the market. I'd hope it's still had a few
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: goats left. Otherwise they buy it could be in trouble,
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: complete with the resident croc and for safety reasons. The
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: frying pan isn't that amazing?
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: What not?
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: Love that place more than?
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Like? What more good you asked for? And Joe mentioned
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Sydney real estate. If you're trying to buy a real
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: estate in Sydney, go and take a look at that thing,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: because you may well get more bang for your back.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: After the break, our dope of the day will he
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: didn't just go on one police chase, he just go
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: on two police chases. He's gone three police chases, he
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: went on four. I how did he think it was
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: going to end? I'll tell you after this radio let's
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: get into our favorite segment, don't the day And today's
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: fella is Nibosa Boubalo, who thought he wouldn't stop at
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: one police chase or two or three, he'd actually lead
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: them on four separate police chases. And whoe betide what
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: happens after that, you get arrested and they send you
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: off to jail.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: Isn't it amazing?
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: Because he got caught on the first occasion and drove
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: off and then so of course the next time the
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: police saw him, they're like, well, yeah, we're going to
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: pull you over, and he just.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: Kept doing it.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: He just kept doing it over and over again, and
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: they had to call off these police chases because he's
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: doing like one hundred and forty kilometers an hour in
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: sixty zones. Ice addict as well, by the way, so
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: desperate to get away.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: From the police.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: In one case, it was at an RBT that he did it.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: Like when do you think, oh, yeah, if I just
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: drive away from the RBT is going to be no problem.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: Those booze busses don't go very far.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: But in the end, the way they got him is
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: that an unmarked police car literally had to like park
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: in front of him to stop him from getting away anyway.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: And I don't know whether he's learned his lessons, but
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: I suspect next time he'll have a different plan of
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: I like.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: His get up and go attitude. If at first you
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: don't succeed, try try.
• 47:25
  Speaker 6: He didn't even try to knock a call. This is
• 47:28
  Speaker 6: just brazen. What an idiot. Well over in the UK
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: Paddington Bear, the adorable character or the makers of Paddington
• 47:36
  Speaker 6: Bear are suing a podcast over this parody.
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: You most likely remember me from the films Padding, Don't Badding,
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: Don't Do and Paddington in Peru. I also had a
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: starring role in the Netflix series Nakos as Pablo Escobert.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: It is a jog laugh we chatos.
• 47:58
  Speaker 10: Oh but you cragged me up and not that sort
• 48:01
  Speaker 10: of craig obviously. I mean, not that I would have
• 48:04
  Speaker 10: or not that I wouldn't, but I just went like
• 48:05
  Speaker 10: you made me laugh Paddington Escobert.
• 48:09
  Speaker 6: I mean that is just quality.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: What seriously like Spitting Image is a long running program
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: in the UK that takes the piece out of everything,
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: all the way back to the caricatures of Margaret Thatcher
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: for goodness sake, Like, if you're taking issue with the
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: fact that you've been made fun of on Spitting Image,
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: like really get over it.
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: Well, look, I actually thought it was good for his reputation.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: Exact Luddington in Peru, and that was a much better
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: that was actually very very good anyway, just a final
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: little shout out for our final segment to my former
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: Channel ten colleague, the honey Badger Nick Cummons football superstar
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: looks great in a pair of undies, as do I.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: People couldn't tell us apart where we're both at the network.
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: Save a young girl's life he was at. He was
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: at a picnic in Melbourne and a girl choked on
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: a lolly and when he realized what had happened, this
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: was at another table. He ran over to her and
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: he said the time old medical technique of turning her
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: upside down and shaking her to the lolly came out.
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: True story. What a hero.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: Good on ing, Good on him for doing it.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what though, the poor kid probably would
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: have turned around and said put the lolly back in
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: if it was you and your undies and not the
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: honey maker. Thanks for watching tonight that needs to read
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: a panic.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: You showed good enough